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What the actual FUCK is going on here?
Are you really allowed to fuck around with a continuity this much just for a one-time crossover?
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>>93508792
Bla Bla Alternate Universes Bla Bla
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>>93508792
Besides Arrow I don't recognize any of those
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>>93508792
>telling snyder what he is allowed to do
LMAO
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Storytime ?
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>>93508792
to be fair, the Shadow's power of hypnosis would allow him to train people then have them forget him or replace him with someone else in their memory
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>>93508792
did the new one come out today? is there a storytime?
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>>93509169
do it in a separate thread
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>Miss Fury and Woman in Red in DC continuity
Sweet!
>Offed off-screen
Shit!
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>still no storytime
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>>93509279
>>93509169
We are 3 for 3 with someone posting a page from the issue and complaining about it, but not actually storytiming it.
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>>93508792
>monthly shill thread which doesn't include a story time.

Who would have thought?
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Give me a few minutes and I'll storytime it
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Should I do it in this thread or another one ?
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>>93510435
this thread. just to piss the shill off.
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Okay everyone, it's time to find out what evil lurks in the hearts of bats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBnO9dw3n6A
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>>93510579
The Shadow, Lamont Cranston, a man of wealth, a student of science, and a master of other people's minds, devotes his life to righting wrongs, protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty...
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>>93510651
Cranston is known to the underworld as The Shadow - never seen, only heard... The Shadow's true identity is known only to his constant friend and aide, Miss Not-Appearing-In-This-Issue Margo Lane.
These dramatizations are designed to demonstrate to the young and old alike that crime does not pay.
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>>93510579
tranny joker?

Sale cover has to shit on this.
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>>93510684>>93510689


And, oh, does it.
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>>93510684
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>>93510718
why does Snyder always make joker so gay? Is it his way of saying gay people are degenerate?
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>>93510718
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>>93510744
Snyder has a hard-on for Joker as a faggy edgelord
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>>93510793
I really don't like seeing The Shadow unmasked completely.
But I'm glad I got to see him at least interact with Alfred a bit
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>>93510854
There was an episode from the radio show called "The Immortal Murderer" where The Shadow fought Cain, or at least someone claiming to be him.
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be the same guy since that Cain died at the end of the episode.
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>>93510907
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>>93510948
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>>93510991
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>>93511025
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>>93511079
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>>93511114
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DId Snyder make Shadow's ultimate villain be that puppet dude from Naruto?
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>>93511146
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>>93510684
>The Shadow - never seen, only heard
That's the exact fucking opposite of a shadow.
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>>93511151
I'm curious as to why he couldn't use Shiwan Khan instead of making up a new enemy entirely.
I guess Khan always gets the spotlight when there is a Shadow adaptation but he's kind of retconning The Shadow's history by shoving the Stag in there as if he was always a part of it.
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>>93511243
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>>93511296
The weed of crime...bears bitter fruit. Crime does not pay.
The Shadow knows...mmmha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah

And that's it everyone.
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>>93511220
Yeah I don't understand that either. Or Nazis. Besides, he's also retconning how they've worked together over the years but with The Shadow/Lamont being pretty old then. Though Batman was pretty ignorant as to why an old rich white dude happened to appear in the same, middle-of-nowhere town as a drug smuggling ring. In a desert.
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>>93511296
>Batman becomes the next Shadow

...ergo...Ben Affleck is Alec Baldwin?
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>>93510744
Joker has always been gay you raging homofaggot
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>>93511025
He wants the dick
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>>93511362
It's been a while I read it but if I recall The Shadow was not supposed to be old in that issue, just the same age he's always been.
There are plenty of interpretations of The Shadow that speculate he is immortal to some extent, this one just seems to be running with it as a plot point to explain why a vigilante from the 30s can interact with a (supposedly modern time) Batman.

>>93511386
Well, Alec Baldwin was one of the original casting choices for Batman 89.
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>>93509299
Welcome to me reading All-Star Batman.
>Snyder brought back Tigershark and the Golden Age Blackbeard, sweet!
>offed off-panel by a generic Sixth Gen video game design tacticool ninja spymaster
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Why do we always have this fucking thread
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Is Snyder just being Snyder or is he a really big Shadow fan, because it seems to me that three issues in Batman has done nothing but act like a complete ninny.
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>>93511586
That's actually kinda stupid
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>>93511296
>Batman will become the next Shadow

Suddenly it all makes sense
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>>93511624
Probably Snyder just being Snyder
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>>93510907
Isn't Cain actually Vandal Savage in DC history, with Sandman Cain existing as the physical embodiment of the first murderer, the concept of murder itself?
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>>93511266
Oh look magpies in the back, I thought she was dead
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>>93511927
It seems there are multiple characters supposed to be Cain across DC history.
It says in the wiki that Vandal Savage was the inspiration for Cain, but this conflicts with the existence of Cain, Sire of All Vampires and Sandman Cain, not to mention this new character (although I'm not sure if this crossover is supposed to take place in the main universe)
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>>93510991
Can anyone name all of those? Is that Batwoman up top?
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>>93510907
Is this Loss
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>>93510991
The Reaper!
He was basically The Shadow-as-foe to Batman like Bane - Doc Savage and Ra's Al Ghul - Fu Manchu
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>>93512181
No, that's Miss Fury.
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>>93511266
>Zebra Man
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>>93510991
I heard this crossover was somehow canon, but it can't be with Ollie dead, right?
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>>93512181
The ones I regonize from top to bottom, left to right:
>Miss Fury
>Woman in Red
Don't know
>Green Arrow
Don't know
Don't know
Don't know :^)
>Crimson Fox
>The Reaper
Don't know
>Acro-Bat
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>>93512364
>He was basically The Shadow-as-foe to Batman
I thought that was supposed to be Hush, with the Darkman references and all
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>>93510750
I'm sorry but at what point did Batman get a giant undersea lair complete with giant fucking Adam West bat logo plastered clearly on the front? Also shouldn't he do something about those dead bodies floating in the harbor?
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>>93511403
>always
No, he hasn't, my underage friend.
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>>93512938
The one left of Green Arrow is the original Whip.
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>>93508792
This is not even in continuity, dude
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>>93511266
Does anyone recognize the big green guy next to Zebra-Man, the girl next to Magpie, the guy with the dogs, or the guy next to Wrath?
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>>93509299
>>Miss Fury and Woman in Red in DC continuity

Might be more like Batman/Shadow continuity; I don't think it's continuity with New 52/Rebirth Batman.
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>>93511151
I think Orlando is the one who decided to use The Stag. I'm pretty sure it was him who created The Stag in the Annual.
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>>93509085
Top looks like Miss Fury. Probably since this is also a crossover with Dynamite they decided to throw in a few nods to the public domain characters that Dynamite's been using.
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>>93512181
>>93512938
>>93513869
Okay so:

>Miss Fury
>Woman in Red
>Golden Age Whip
>Green Arrow
>???
>???
>Batman
>Crimson Fox
>The Reaper
>Flying Fox?
>Acro-Bat
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>>93514285
Also come to think of it, I'm surprised they didn't use Arrow instead of Green Arrow:

http://pdsh.wikia.com/wiki/Arrow
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>>93514307
Maybe that's who it was meant to be and the artist got them mixed up. It does seem odd to have Ollie there before Batman and with The Shadow saying that he's dead. Maybe someone should ask Snyder or Orlando.
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>>93514521
Well the Reaper and Flying Fox predate Batman in DC continuity; on that page they're placed after Batman's panel.
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All things considered and with all the baggage that comes with Snyder... well being Snyder I think this is by far the best version of The Shadow in comics in basically decades. Dynamite by and large hasn't done him justice at all but here he's really portrayed as weird, frightening, actually mysterious and otherworldly and not simply a stock noir-era guy with guns. I really wonder what this series means for him in the public eye?
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>>93514953
I'd reserve judgement for when the run is over. I'm still expecting Snyder to fuck it up somehow in the finale. And I'd argue that Matt Wagner's comics are much superior to this one.

But yeah, I have to agree. If there's one positive thing I can say about this comic is that it's doing justice to The Shadow's characterization. I'm so glad this isn't another team-up but instead an exploration of where Batman and The Shadow differ. Out of all versions of the character in recent years this one comes close to depicting his character as he was in the Walter Gibson pulps, a standard which no one has been able to live up to.

>I really wonder what this series means for him in the public eye?
I don't think it's going to change much. The Shadow has been out of public eye for a long time now and I don't think this is going to change this status.
There's a new ongoing coming up by Si Spurrier though.
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>>93514285
>>93508792
Also is the character next to Miss Fury actually The Shadow or another character?
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bumping to read
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>>93510579
Decent cover.
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>>93510651
Best cover.
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>>93510833
what in the fuck?
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>>93510684
OK cover.
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>>93510907
does snyder write the worst joker ever?
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>>93511266
well shit
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Thanks, OP.
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>>93515303
I don't think the Shadow is a character that can be successfully adapted to a modern audience, it's just too classic and out of touch. It doesn't work well out of the 1930s urban setting.
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>>93517536
The Shadow has never been strictly confined to a 1930s urban setting. He's a globethrotter super spy, a lot of his adventures take place in other settings. And there's plenty of great Shadow stories that take place beyond the 30s, like Hitler's Astrologist.

I agree that removing him from the 30s/40s is dangerous, mostly because of how iconic the aesthetic is to the character and because of how you would miss the central noir appeal and cultural context, but it doesn't mean he can't be adapted to a modern audience. The pulps still hold up, the character still has distinct qualities even amidst the sea of copycats, and you can still tell great stories with the elements given. Tim Burton's Batman and Batman TAS preserved Batman's noir aesthetic and the 40s elements without specifically forcing Batman in those time periods. Something like this could be done for The Shadow.
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Joker is such a forced asspull in this story when Ras would fit 100 times better. Does Snyder just have a compulsion or what?
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>>93518670
>does Snyder have a compulsion or what ?
Is this the first time you've heard of Scott Snyder ?

>I think no matter what, he'd come back. It's impossible to think of Batman without the Joker. He's sort of his dark twin.
>Believe me, I really feel Joker is the greatest villain of all time.

He just can't help himself.
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bump for reading
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bumping for others
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>>93510948
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sometimes art arts too much
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>>93523760
wat.
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>>93520190
bumping for this guy
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>>93511266
I want to see Rossmo on the eventual Tom King Scarecrow arc.
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>>93510718
>licking the knife
God I fucking hate edgy Joker.
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>>93527056
this
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>>93513978
Green guy is Floro, with dogs Hellhound
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>>93514953
>I think this is by far the best version of The Shadow in comics in basically decades.
You read Year One? Or Ennis' Shadow? I feel both are better. Check them out if you haven't already.
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>>93516806
...how?
It's an exaggerated face in 3/4 profile. The background would have made a better cover on its own desu.
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>>93511586
Tigershark is fine though
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>>93528671

Year one is good. Ennis's run sucks imo, it's like he wanted to tell a story that has nothing to actually do with the shadow but got put in the book so he shoved him into a WWII script.

Year One is better than this book, but I agree with that anon that this is probably the best characterization of the Shadow in a long time. The art helps, giving him wild piercing eyes, and always having the scarf flowing somewhere off screen which i think gives him an ethereal quality.

This issue was weaker than the last two though.
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>>93514285
Miss fury? is not catwoman..
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>>93511025
and the fans miss you... even if now you are more strange than another times..
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>>93511266
CLAYFACE?? Impossible, he is with the bat now..
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>>93529379
You have shit taste if you think the regular is better than Sale's variant.

Am I going to change your mind by describing why I like Tim's better? No. But I will say I don't appreciate the regular cover making joker look like a faggot or a tranny.
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>>93511586
Tigersharks fine though dude, he's one of snyder's faves and is even in nightwing right now.

And if you're thinking of who i think you are, then the guy that just got killed isnt the same person
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>>93511266
>classic magpie
Ohhh fuck yes i'm a happy boy

Any clues on the red head to the left of Deathound and the hulking green fella near Zebra-Man?
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