Marvel vs Capcom Infinite

>>93508390
>Still caring about MvCI
Dragonball FighterZ is the new Marvel, for all I'm concerned.

I just don't understand what went so wrong? I know its really easy to put the blame on Disney, but people forget to realize that Disney owned Marvel for two years before MvC3 even came out, and that it was Disney to convince Marvel to stop inhousing their IPs for video games.

>>93508390
Just won't be the same without that one guy

At least we've got star lord even if he does have that weird yellow helmet

Article made me smirk, not gonna lie.

>>93508464

Between MCU synergy and Capcom's inability to release a fully functioning fighting game, this never had a chance. Not to mention it has to go up against Injustice 2 and Tekken 7.

>>93508464
>What went wrong
Having producers that tried to force Mahvel to:
1 - change fundamentally from what people expect (see: assists)
2 - exist as an advertisement for the movie franchises

And this guy who thinks people don't remember the fucking X-men

It's real fucking sad when a DBZ fighting game looks way better than the fourth installment of the MVC franchise.

I really hope that Capcom ends the Vs. series after this piece of shit. Also that Marvel never makes another fighting game ever again.

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guys, guys, nobody fucking remembers Wolverine.

Everyone remembers this guy.

You guys care way to much about this game.

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>>93508390
I'm not even one of those curious sort who'll try to nitpick at Marvel for excluding FF and X-Men shit like their inclusion would magically make anything better, but I have to say that excuse is fucking weak.
Who hires these people? Or at least if they're good at their job elsewhere who chooses not to speak with them briefly before interviews like this to think up better excuses?

A modern Marvel fan isn't really relevant to anything since MvC is largely a fighting game which most people, Marvel fans or no, aren't going to invest much into anyway unless they're fans of the genre. And fans of fighting games sure as fuck are going to remember the X-Men properties because anyone who has played the MvC series knows Magneto, Storm, Sentinel and Cable.

Again I don't think the FF would matter, Super Skrull was a far more versatile approach than one of each, and I don't think all of the X-Men need to be present but claiming those playing the fucking series won't remember them over characters who have never even been in it? Are you joking? Come the fuck on son.

Admittedly this is a harmless remark since anyone like myself annoyed by it either is going to play the game anyway or never was, and it doesn't make so much as a splash in the sea of media Marvel can push to make dosh anyway. But really. Really, sort your material out. It'd take all of two minutes.

Like
>We feel the X-Men have had plenty of representation over the years and would like to allow others the same chance
His shit is up there with
>You think you do, but you don't.

>>93508495
>it has to go up against injustice 2
Gonna be looooooong dead by the time this releases, don't kid yourself
>and tekken 7
not even remotely the same crowd

It's gonna get eaten alive by Dragonball if anything.

>>93508390
"Nobody remembers who the X-Men are anymore, but you know who the people know? Carol Danvers, that's right, one of the lowest selling comics, people love and recognize her".

>>93508514

I do expect Chris Redfield/Jill Valentine and someone from Monster Hunter in Smash 5 though. However that would mean the third-party limit is bumped to 3 per company meaning Agumon and either Lloyd Irving or Heihachi joining Pac-Man with Bamco (Hopefully if Konami stops being shits long enough, that means we get Snake back along with Bomberman and Simon Belmont.).

>>93508390
this is fucking stupid if they just come out and said no xmen it would be shit but atleast honest
what really burns my buns is if they want to push the mcu in this game they could use the wealth of characters they arent
no vulture
no loki
only two Guardians and no ronan and star lord
no winter solider (i think they are putting him in it tho)
no whiplash
no yellow jacket

>>93508558
she like wonder woman but light bulb

>>93508537
Dlc includes
God Vegito
Beerus
Merged Zamasu

Reminder that X-Fags have no right to complain, they dominated comics and media for three decades up to and including when their movies were fresh and popular. No other Marvel IP has such a strong presence in MvC or other video games, let alone their own numerous dedicated fighting games. Go play one of those and stop whining.

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>>93508390
Oh Evans

What dirt did Marvel dig up on you?

>>93508616
>No other Marvel IP has such a strong presence in MvC or other video games,

That's because it started as an X-Men videogame.
Go back to fap to ponies you virgin tubroautist.

>>93508616
t. Peter Rosas

>>93508642
what does that even mean

>>93508558
i amazed marvel didn't push ms marvel or mocking bird into this shitstorm

How did Marvel get THIS bad?!

>>93508390
So is Capcom just dicing head first into bankruptcy?

>>93508642
>says the bitter nerd who can't get over that people just aren't as interested in his favorite toys after 30 years of heavy exposure

Perlmutter needs to let this shit go and at least put in a few X-Men in.

>>93508390
I know they can't say "it's because of rights" and shit but is this really really the best excuse they could come up with?

>>93508390
>Sign in through Steam
Can I order groceries to my house using Steam yet?

>>93508662
It means that before there was Marvel vs Capcom there was X-men vs Street Fighter

>>93508705
The way Valve is taking over distribution, you just might soon enough.

>>93508390
wow
i never seen marvel go down to shit so fast in every media

>>93508684
Well they clearly outsourced their model work for MvCI, so it seems they can't find a decent budget even with Disney pitching in

This wouldn't be as funny if Deadpool and Logan weren't smash hits.

If it was about popularity, Peter, Logan and Wade would be front and center, not Carol, Steve and Tony. You'd also have Venom-Bison, not Sigma-Ultron.

>>93508390
>I know you liked the X-Men for years but you really don't remember them that well, so here's GAMORA

>>93508717
before that there was xmen children of the atom

>>93508684
You know, it's funny how they've fucked all of their remaining decent IPs in a span of less than 5 years.

>>93508527
>others the same chance
Speaking of which, where's my Black Knight? Where's Cap Britain? Where's Mad Jim Jaspers?
Right. They don't care about giving other characters a chance. They care about MCU pandering.

>>93508843
like square enix and kanomi and Nintendo, Sega
im starting to see a pattern here

>>93508693

>thinking a man who backed the Trump Administration will ever make a smart decision that would even tangentially benefit people other than himself

Keep on dreamin'.

>tfw the story demo uses Sigma the same way the Mega Man comics did.
>It looks just as bad here as it did there.

Stop making stories where Sigma bodies everyone, it's boring and nobody likes it.

>>93508537
>Gonna be looooooong dead by the time this releases
Will still be rolling out DLC by then. Stop thinking you FGC clubhouse represents general audiences.

>>93508864
>Sega
>Nintendo
You got the other two right at least.

>>93508520
I remember when he had the most 80s look in the world as opposed to the most 90s look in the world

>>93508793

Eh, crossover games have always been cheap cash grabbers. What I find weird is why they're even using new models for some characters then the old one for others. MvC2 was a hodgepodge of ripped sprites same with CvS2.

Why bother making horrible ones for Dante and Chun when the old ones from MvC3 just need a slight touch up?

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>>93508891
>Will still be rolling out DLC by then. Stop thinking you FGC clubhouse represents general audiences.
I'm sorry, I assumed you weren't an idiot and were talking about whether people who actually play fighting games would stick with Injustice because that's what it means for a fighting game to remain alive (and a necessity for challenging another fighting game).

People playing fucking multiverse doesn't threaten Marvel vs sales or turnout you mong.

>>93508904
It's also very strange that they made new shittier models and then threw in the exact same rigging and animations as the previous game for many characters

I'm struggling to even see the point in this release

>>93508899
Lightning Returns came out in the past 5 years, and Konami cancelled PT within the same time frame

>>93508935
What keeps fighting games alive are people buying fighting games, you brainwashed dipshit.

>>93508985
I hope you aren't trying to say that those are good things.

>>93508684
It's obvious at this point the problem is the team behind the game, not exactly Capcom or Marvel's fault.

Then again
>Letting FCG idiots make a game without someone who could actually tell them what NOT to do.

>>93509058
I was linking square enix and konami to >>93508843

Pointing out those examples of them fucking their remaining IPs

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>>93508994
>What keeps fighting games alive are people buying fighting games
There is a difference between "fighting games" the genre and "a fighting game" an individual game.

Get some reading comprehension

>>93508464
Capcom is literal shit,they basically killed all their franchises

Worst management ever

>>93508390
Fuck Marvel.

>>93509256
>SF - Dead
>MvC - Dead
>Resi - Dead
>Monhun - Dying
>DMC - Dead
What's left, Ace Attorney?

>>93509517
SF isn't dead, just dying. They could save it if they pushed back to SF4 style

Resident Evil 7 is great and that franchise is probably their strongest at the moment.

Monhun is dying, yeah

DMC is in a coma

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That whole interview was shit.

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>>93508903

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>>93509638
>oh man I love this character, can you put him in?
>lol no that character sucks, get fucked nerd.

Yes, that's exactly how you give an interview to fans of your games.

Remember when Marvel fans were crowing about how MvC meant Marvel would #btfo DC game?

I remember.

>>93508537
>Gonna be looooooong dead by the time this releases, don't kid yourself
KEK watching you guys go through the 7 st ges of grief since Injustice 2 was announced is just amazing

>>93508514
>I really hope that Capcom ends the Vs. series
If SF x Tekken couldn't kill it, nothing will.

>>93509752
Even a shit game would still beat anything NRS ever made, so that's not much of a boast.

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>>93509680
Why the fuck didn't just mention, or at least imply, Fighting Layer EX! This interview was not only shit, but unprofessional as fuck.

>>93508843
Phoenix Wright is still good, so not all of them

>>93508705
>Can I order groceries to my house using Steam yet?
Only if Gaben takes 3/4 of your order for himself

>>93509752
How could we not, they were raiding all Injustice threads for a year. I hope they learn something from this disaster

>>93509816
Injustice sucks ass.

>>93509762
>implying Injustice 2 isn't already dying
They didn't fix any of the problems from Injustice 1, by the time DLC is out in force the game in tournaments will be dead.

>>93509752
>Marvel vs DC
This is a vidya thread, keep your childish capeshit wars out of it

>>93509816
I mean don't get me wrong NRS are the worst fighting game devs in history and Injustice is complete shit but MvC had Marvel and Capcom's upper management.

Anybody who didn't see this game being unrepentant garbage was being willfully retarded.

>>93508514
>I really hope that Capcom ends the Vs. series
Fuck you. The series is fucking great, & I want it to continue. Just not be the peace of shit nu-Marvel, Crapcom, & Combofiend are selling, at least graphical wise. The gameplay is fine, but each half of the roster looks like garbage, or bland in Hawkeye's case, & the Story demo don't tell me shit other than it being 'ROLL CALL' the demo. I hope this fails purely because of that interview.

>>93508671
This game is basically MCU vs. Capcom. There are only two or three characters that aren't part of the MCU.

>>93508527
It always baffles me how PR people seem to be extremely adept at digging themselves INTO holes instead of out of them

Its kinda amazing honestly that they can be so incompetent at their job. Fucking nobody is going to accept that "nobody remembers the xmen"

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>forced to sacrifice Viewtiful Joe, Ammy & Phoenix Wright for Mega Man to be correctly represented.

>>93508514
>I really hope that Capcom ends the Vs. series after this piece of shit.

The series died after UMvC3.

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>>93510057
>Viewtiful Joe
>VJ3 never

>>93509517
They are trying to kill AA by not localizing literally all the best games.

>>93509616
>monhun is dying
Nigga, how are you not hype for World?

Also Im still expecting a dmc announcement any time now. The director said hes working on a project and there was that image last year of dante and nero's VAs in mocap suits

>>93510100
Why even live?

>>93508390
I like how that writer is masking his pain through humour.
Those names got slight chuckles out of me.

>>93510134
>>Nigga, how are you not hype for World?
Literally looks like some western game they slapped the Monster Hunter name onto.
>Trying to "appeal to a wider audience"
Doomed to fail.

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>>93508390

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>>93510134
>Nigga, how are you not hype for the worst aspects of Monhun's MMO design to be wedded to slow "cinematic" garbage

Monhun needed more of a focus on online and to be a little more arcadey, they went in the wrong direction on two different fronts

>>93509768
Sf x Tekken is no MvC. It's one thing to fuck up the former, but fuck up the latter is another.

>>93508390
>no one remembers the X-men
Except the people who have 'KINETIC CARD', 'BERSERKER BARRAGE' and OPTIC BLAST' engraved on their mind

>>93510134
>how are you not hype for World?
Maybe the whole part about capcom not listening to what their nip and western fans actually want and forming a game around an audience that doesn't really like or know what Monster Hunter is.

Then there's the fact that it takes the worst part of Gens and makes them standard movesets for weapons.
Natural traps are going to get annoying too seeing as monsters can fall into them on their own.

>>93510182
We saw basically no footage. The only "casualization" i saw was the wisps that help you find the monster and thats fine with me since previously it was just memorize where the monster spawns and run straight there

>>93510218
>>We saw basically no footage.
Except, you know, the 20 minute gameplay demo they showed off.
It just comes off as desperate.

>>93510218
>20 minutes of gameplay is no footage

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>>93508390
>and lesser known-Captain Marvel

>>93508390
Implying magneto and sentinel wasn't the most used characters b

>>93508464
>Dragonball FighterZ is the new Marvel, for all I'm concerned.
It's looking like a great game and all, but it does nothing for me, as a Marvel fan. And when I say Marvel fan, I specifically mean a fan of Marvel comics. I really wanted this game to be good, but the current MCU shilling is getting out of control, and Marvel's pettiness toward Fox is just having them shoot themselves in the foot constantly.

>>93509517
AA is dead on the West

Bad localization,skipping games,download only releases.

>>93510182
>>93510191
Uh oh nintendrones found the thread abandon ship

>Read picture
>Oh it's a joke
>Google it
>It's real
I mean in all fairness I actually don't like the majority of Xmen anyway but this is pretty retarded.

>>93508520
I hate that they keep using his reboot look. The reboot fucking sucked. As someone that actually owned the NES game and really loved it and actually did always want the character in this series, using this version is like a kick in the dick.

>>93508464
It's Ike for sure.

Getting ousted from the MCU table and losing his Inhumans movie has made him buckle down on this shit as a desperate power move.

Won't be surprised at all when Marvel Studios continues to be a smashing success while Ike runs Marvel Entertainment into the ground.

>>93508495
Those games really aren't competition for MvC, like the other anon said if anything DBZ will kill this

>>93510542
>Too dumb to think of a retort
>I'll just resort to namecalling!
kys

>>93510545
You should see what Combofiend said in that interview, too. About how characters are "just functions", so it doesn't matter if a character like Magneto isn't in the game, because Ultron stole some of his moves. Most retarded ass shit ever.

>>93510620
but he's right, it's the reason you'll never get punisher or star-lord when chris redfield is in the game

>>93509752
This game is a horrendous disappointment but that doesn't mean it's going to be worse than Injustice. Everything else might be shit but based on the demo the gameplay is already better.

>>93510578
>nintenfags say MHW is going to be cinematic since its not tied to Nintendo's horrible hardware anymore
>when all the footage we've seen so far indicates it's going to be more MH than the trainwrecks that were Generations and the X games
Enjoy your ports

>>93510620
I mean if you aren't a fan of anything ever I could see why you'd think that. If you've never thought "I wanna play as X" and only think "I want my character to do X".
Maybe he has nothing in life he enjoys.

>>93510650
>MHW has literal cinematic zoom-ins
>B-But it's not cinematic, I swear!
I didn't know Poland-kun came to /co/ too.

>>93510578
Don't bother replying to him.
He's just always going to deflect to Nintendo even if you're a fan of Monhun over Nintendo themselves.

pretty much guaranteed no buy now

>>93510675
>I can't do anime moves on monsters and have actually hunt monsters now MH IS RUINED!
:3

>>93508390
>Michael Evans
Western developers continuing to destroy Capcom's brand

>>93510677
Oh I know. He comes to /v/ and /mhg/ all the time to act like a humongous faggot, when in reality he's just some cuck from /pol/.

>>93510649
The gameplay of a Capcom game was always going to be better than an NRS game. The problem is that NRS sells to mouthbreathing retards and black teenagers while Capcom has chased off everybody who isn't a tourneyfag.

So by making a niche game like MvC a disastrous shitheap they've gutted their already small audience, while the people buying Injustice are buying it like they'd buy Call of Duty.

Give the DC rights to Arc System Works and let Marvel and Capcom die.

>>93510665
Nobody does that unless they aren't human. Even if you don't like a franchise you'll see characters that catch your fancy through designs alone.

>>93510711
>I can't do anime moves on monsters
But anon, not only does Worlds have anime moves but they're part of the regular moveset rather than being optional like they are in Gens.

>and have actually hunt monsters now
They practically hunt themselves in Worlds now and the ghillie suit reduces monsters to sitting ducks.

>>93510740
>n-no it's just one guy who likes MHW everyone else hates it right /v/ros?
Sad!

Does anyone even care about MCU Gamora?
All she ever does is jobbing and trying to look badass which falls flat because of the aforementioned jobbing.

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@93510837
You're just proving how stupid you are.

>>93510858
No Puyo at all?

>>93510858
Not them, but
>A picture of video games means only one person defends MHW
?

I think it might be good.

>>93510733
It's their own damned fault for just farming out all their fucking properties anymore

Street Fighter's been made by a third party for years and it fucking shows

>>93510853
>Does anyone even care about MCU Gamora?

more than care about comics gamora for sure

>>93510876
Haven't been able to buy vidya lately

>>93510892
>>A picture of video games means only one person defends MHW
More so the point of the argument being that only Nintendo fans don't like the look of World.

>>93510926
>Haven't been able to buy vidya lately
Fair enough.

>>93510926

Personally, I believe that my current status would be best described as "cautiously optimistic". Big scenarios, drop-in online multiplayer, and natural traps seem like cool additions to the game, but boy oh boy are there a million ways they can fuck them up.

(Well, that and annoyed because I have zero faith that Capcom will actually deliver that supposed PC port before the sun goes supernova, which means I'm probably not going to get to play this one).

>>93510760
Warner Bros really has no reason to give the IP to ArcSys
WB has spent a lot of money becoming a publisher (mostly just taking after Midway) and NRS is their baby
and Injustice 2 is widely successful anyways
So they don't have much reason to have another fighting game

>>93511004
I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic too, don't get me wrong, but Capcom's not really proven that they can be trusted all too often lately.

>>93508390
who is the white pajama boxing gloves guy and the buff version of freddie mercury?

>>93508678
Perlmutter's embargo

>>93511004
>drop-in online multiplayer
Personally that's a huge red flag for me.
I mean, we're already getting a fuck ton of carried shitters with the regular system.

If I wanted to play superhero fanfic in a fighting game, Id play Injustice. Capcom fags have beaten wives syndrome, and this game looks like complete shit no matter how you spin it. Also its saying something when your DLC tactics is worse than WB's.

>>93511207
Pot meet kettle.

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we still having best girl

That's what happens when you let players believe they are developers.

Capcom needs another Yoshiki Okamoto like Marvel needs another Jim Shooter.

>>93511750
>Capcom needs another Yoshiki Okamoto like Marvel needs another Jim Shooter.

This.

>>93508464
Dont kid yourself. Dragonball will be hot garbage.

>none of the characters feeling unique cuz muh saiyan and generic energy blasts
>very limited source material
>bad generic systems like pursuit and no grabs.

>>93508390
>No Doom
This is what makes me the maddest.

>>93511898
>Dragonball will be hot garbage.
Except from the footage and people's hand-on experience its pretty good, also its being developed by ArcSys so they know how to make fighting gamessorry if the truth hurts Capcom shill

>>93512287
Oh come on! It's not like you even REMEMBER who Doom is!
Here, play as your new favorite, Carol Danvers! The one and only Captain Marvel!

>>93509776
Because why would they mention a game from a competing company?

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>>93508464
facts

Why don't they just make a new Darkstalkers or Rival Schools or something instead? No rights bullshit to fight with there.

>>93509752
As someone who defended the fuck out of Infinite initially, I am so incredibly disappointed. MvC2 and 3 were two of the greatest fighting games of all time, but Capcom is developing Infinite like they just couldn't give a shit.

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I honestly believe with the growing success of vidya and anti-consumer tactics like DLC, Microtransactions, Pay to Win and so on being legitimate ways to get suckers in the industry basically motivated the industry to just have zero fucks to give and feel like they can just shit on their audience because they know that people are gonna eat it up either way.

Just look what happened a couple weeks back when the head of the PS4 literally said that old Playstation games were shit and backwards compatibility is stupid, yet conveniently many games are being resold for the console with the recent one being the Crash Bandicoot re-release they marketing a lot. The truth is they didn't add X-Men is because they either want to save it as DLC or maybe they simply didn't want to put as much money as they did in the previous game to make a quick buck. No other industry has a lack of respect for it's own audience then vidya, not even comics.

>>93512601
And you know the worst part about it?
People are still buying into these anti-consumer practices while ignoring developers who either give the player the DLC for free or just have a full and working game from the start.

Hell if I remember right even the Crash remake is giving the cut stages from the original as fucking paid DLC.

>sleazy video game director who doesn't read comic books telling comic book fans they don't remember comic book characters.

>>93512521
>Why don't they just make a new Darkstalkers or Rival Schools
Because we can't have nice things. No new Final Fight either.

>>93512521
Capcom thinks that Darkstalkers wouldn't sell, based on the lackluster sales of a port of a twenty year old game. Capcom is retarded. If they actually released a new Darkstalkers game and put some real effort into it, it'd probably sell pretty damn well.

>>93510858
I forgot to put your hand in the picture. How embarrassing.

>>93513027
How dare you forget, anon

>>93510620
The whole point of a licences crossover is to see beloved or cult characters interact with each other. If characters are just functions, then the MvC series has no reason to exist as they could do the exact same thing with "Original the Characters"

I don't even care about the Marvel part and I'm not butthurt like you.

When you're a Megaman fan you can hate Capcom all you want with a good reason; however, I as a Megaman fan I'm going to play the game because muh nigga X is finally here. In short fuck off

>>93508390
this is last week news. Why is it just now getting attention?

>>93509997
Carol and Rich are the only ones who don't have movies, and Marvel can't shut up about the fact that Carol is getting a movie

>>93512338
oh lord, shut the fuck up, if ArcSys knew what they do Guilty Gear would have been a smash hit but as it stands it's just a shitty fighting game with a small cult community, shut the fuck up ArcShill

>>93508390
Can someone explain to me marvel's relationship with the x-men? Do they not like them or something? Or do they not really bother with hem due to some licensing thing?

>>93512751
Darkstalkersfags are deluded - the game wouldn't sell AT ALL. Skullgirls was a smash hit developed by a small time company. Darkstalkers cashing in the same would mean total failure for Capcom. It doesn't simply have the draw.

>>93512751
If their biggest figthing game franchise can't even sell well, what makes you think their more niche ones will?

>>93513308
The fact that their niche ones, with the original mechanics and inputs along with meaningful improvements to them, are what people want. Not casualised fighters that they've put all their focus on for the past, what 10 years?.

>>93513275
It's all licensing issues
They want to destroy the brand until Fox gives X-Men back
They already did it with Fantastic Four

Fox should just make more movies and TV shows to stick it to them

>>93510919
So, the answer is no one cares about that shitty character.
Glad we cleared it out.

>>93513386
whatever you need to tell yourself bub

>>93513369
>are what people want
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok, let me tell you one thing - the normie living downstreet likes MvC2.

The normie living downstreet DOES IN NO WAY fucking know Darkstalkers other than knowing Morrigan. They don't give a fuck about Darkstalkers.

Holy fucking shit, the funniest part about you salty fucks is how you claim to know what will give Capcom money and what will "salvage" the fighting game community but in reality you don't know shit.

>>93513376
yeah those ten concurrent X-books sure are destroying the brand

>>93513420
>normies are the only audience
If you hadn't noticed not even the normies want Capcom's trash now, hell they barely wanted them to begin with because of the dedication required in a fighter. Just look at SFV's abysmal sales. It's sold 1.6m in just over a year

Banking on the fanbase that actually wants these games on the other hand could net them an easy 2 to 4M in sales world wide from those that dropped capcom when they abandoned them if they can at least make a competent game.

Do you really not keep up with what the fans actually want?

>>93513545
>if you hadn't noticed not even the normies want Capcom's trash now
That's because they catered to your kind, the hardcore fighting game community that all the time barks about "muh casuals" "muh 2d graphics" "muh frames". And yet your "solution" is to ALIENATE the fuck of the casual playerbase because you think that a gaming company as big as Capcom can survive right now with the income of a small niche community.

Also holy shit, how fucking deluded you must be to think that something as fucking niche as Darkstalkers would be able to reach 4 million copies sales while something as big as Street Fighter reaches only 1.5 million.

I won't even "discuss" with you anymore, it's obvious you're fucking delusional, like all Darkstalkerfags on this site

>>93513627
>That's because they catered to your kind
>SFV
>The most casual street fighter yet
>MvC
>The game that removed z-motions for double downs
>catering to hardcore fighting communities

Are you being fucking serious. They're pandering to the lowest of the low with these games in a desperate attempt to increase their playerbase and it's blowing up in their face because they're abandoning their dedicated fanbase and the casuals aren't picking it up.

Do you even know what you're talking about?

>as big as Capcom can survive right now with the income of a small niche community.
You mean like the Monster Hunter community?
The one of about 4 million dedicated players?
The community that they're again going to abandon?
Like that?
And you do know that Capcom is a company that cuts a fuck ton of corners right? Even a dumbass like you should know that. They put in far less effort than companies like Arcsys do with the Guilty Gear series.

Oh yeah and if you hadn't noticed you can count all of the series that have sold more than 5m on your hand

>>93508520
It's amazing and embarrassing how even this piece of crap from a fucking 2009 game manages to look way better than MvCI.

Then again, even PS2 and Wii models of Dante and Chun-Li look better so who knows what the fuck is going on.

>>93508390
They're pulling the Fantastic Four and Silver Surfer from Marvel Heroes today too, made a whole post about their forums how their new license simply doesn't allow them being in the game anymore aside from players that already owned them.

https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/324773/important-notice-regarding-the-fantastic-four-and-silver-surfer

>>93508464
>what went so wrong?
Capcom.

>>93508390
capcom can't do anything without a pr shtistorm anymore, jesus christ

>>93514190
It would help if they didn't do retarded interviews like this on top of the game they've ruined.

>>93508832
Tony would he's the face of the MCU, all normies know who he is. Captain America is his sideshow so he would also be.

Carol? keke I wish they would just let her rest until the movie comes out.

>>93514190
Capcom is pathetic. Someone should put it out of its misery.

>>93508843
Resident Evil managaed to pick itself back up.

>>93514302
>Resident Evil managaed to pick itself back up.
Like hell it did.
7 doesn't even feel like a Resi game.

>>93508616
I won't mind missing the mutants if MvC I rooster were good without them, the only new character is fucking carol and gamora, those fuckers couldn't even add meme-lord

>>93513301
Sarcasm?

>>93513308
But SFV actually sold more than most other fighting games released within the past year or so. It's still the one that has the most players and viewers as well.

>>93509837
your mom swallows.

>>93514900
>But SFV actually sold more than most other fighting games released within the past year or so
How much do you think it sold anon?

>>93510911
What capcom make in-house now anyway? i don't mind western developers since i'm not a weeboo but capcom seems to choice the worst companies i swear, DR4 was a fucking disaster

>>93514900
>But SFV actually sold more than most other fighting games released within the past year or so.
Fucking Pokken sold more than SFV

>firebrand
>monster hunter
>megaman X
>sigma
>suddenly, i became that weird guy that had a wishlist of impossible characters in the game but it actually came true.
Pre ordered that shit. I'm gonna enjoy it for 2 weeks and drop it because capcom fucked up the story, online and my favorite characters won't be top tier.

>>93508520
>>93510546
i love how they had his classic version as an alt costume

i literally never play him without it

>>93510056
In this case it's due to everyone knowing the truth about Marvel limiting character choices. Since there is clearly a limitation that they can't say the truth, all it leaves is the option of digging a hole.

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>>93509098
>Letting FCG idiots make a game without someone who could actually tell them what NOT to do.
Read the interview. Peter clearly states that there is back and forth between the developers of the original Marvel Super Heroes game and himself/modern fgc. The gameplay is not the problem with MvCI. Learn to shitpost accurately.

>>93515180
>changed fighter staples
>gameplay isn't the problem
Pick one

>>93515205
I don't know what you're trying to imply. Like, those two things aren't even tied together. Game engines and characters can change between installments. Did you get upset that SFIII had a parry sytem and whole new cast even though playstyles were still there?
Everyone's main concerns with this game are the graphics and roster. The new system allows for massive freedom and creativity.

>>93513266
You can actually pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks

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>>93508390
I love how they try to force us into caring for these defeated villains like the Ultron that has been shown in the movies as pathetic. How are we supposed to take this guy and a lot of the cast seriously?

>>93514331
Just like 4 before it! You know, one of the most beloved games of all time.

>>93515634
It is a small community here. But he forgets that GG is huge in Japan. That's there big number 2 fighter next to SF (ok, there are some other titles you could argue) instead of MK haha jk I mean Mahvel

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>>93508390
No Xmen is a big issue, but the CGI looking terrible is probably going to be a bigger one. Look how shitty Chun looks and how disproportionate Cap looks.

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>>93515805
Hmmm

>>93508527
there are loads of marvel players who don't know who cable is. 2001 was 16 years ago, and there are even mvc2 players who don't know that cable leads x-force and is the son of cyclops and madeline pryor.

i agree, generally, though, that capcom should probably take a different approach to answering for decisions that they likely didn't get to make. if Marvel doesn't want them in, just say as much.

the game's going to be good and i'm going to play it regardless, so whatever

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>Ultron Sigma
It's just Ultron with Sigma's eyes as Nipples.

>>93512338
name one (1) arc system works game that was good in its first iteration.

Guilty Gear: The Missing link was a fucking disaster.
Hokuto no Ken was a fucking disaster.
Blazblue: Calamity Trigger was a fucking disaster.
Persona 4 Arena was a fucking disaster.

>>93508832
>You'd also have Venom-Bison
God this sounds so much cooler then what we got

>>93511898
>Hot garbage
>made by Arcsys

Pick one

>>93515392
>Game engines and characters can change between installments.
What are you talking about?
What does removing Z inputs have to do with the engine and characters?

Ryu is in the game and the shoryuken input is down down punch now.

>>93516093
You didn't say 623 inputs. You stuck with vague generalities so you could greentext. I had to take what little context there was. Also, the rumor is that Ryu alone gets to keep traditional input for his shoryuken. So bad example, but I get the point. How is it being changed to 2,2 a bad thing? Is it just because it's different?

>>93515951
>name one (1) arc system works game that was good in its first iteration.

Name one Capcom game that was good in its first iteration.

Can't wait for all these websites accepting the "you think you want X-Men but you don't" spin to turn around and fake their surprise when Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom Infinite brings back Magneto and Super Skrull as DLC.

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>Preordering Functions vs Functions at all.

>>93516343
>Name one Capcom game that was good in its first iteration.
Viewtiful Joe

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>>93508527
capcom have been hiring competitive players to manage game development and PR of their fighter because the old stuff is spread on other companies like 8ing, dimps, snk, arcsys, arika e others.
but they go full retarded on their picks. They got a Guilty Gear player to be the battle planner of street fighter v.
combofiend is a MVC2 and CVS player but since everyone on the competitive scene plays the same characters and teams and do the same stuff on those games. you can see that in SFV and MVCI since both add mechanics that makes everyone play the same. The moment I saw Nova fly like magneto I knew the same shit would happen. and it got confirmed that everyone with a fly comand will have the 8-way fly of Magneto.
Xmen vs SF, Marvel super heroes vs SF and MCV were 2v2 but it had originality on the characters and even with 6 buttons (3kicks 3 punches) system the games let you go nuts.
It was in MVC2 that things started wenting down hill since it got turned into automatic combo fest that limited what you could with the characters

>>93516752
You know, I always forget that MvC Spiderman ends up dying.

Fuck Spiderverse.

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I played Injustice 1 MK10 and MK9 and was never a fan of the stiff movement. After playing the story demo of Infinite I'm convinced that the gameplay is solid and fluid like UMvC3. Anyone who says otherwise probably doesn't know how to wavedash.

Probably gonna preorder the game before it comes out. I'll also get DBZF when that comes out.

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>>93508464

>implying Fighters won't have the smallest and most uninspired cast since Burst Limit

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>>93508390
Everything about this post makes me mad.

>>93514162
Not only F4+SS, but also any costumes referencing them like Spiderman's Future Foundation costume and Ghost Rider's What if Costume.

>>93508935
Injustice seems to be more played in other countries than in the US in the competitive scene. US dislikes any fighters that doesn't have capcom on the boot screen. you can see the same thing with tekken, soul calibur, guilty gear, KOF and other fighters.
Koreans have a fucking evo rules style tournament for tekken. there is a bunch of good players on it. but you will only see the sponsored players show up to evo because of the cost of the travel.
there's an arcade on japan where the SFIV level is fucking high that you see people fighting toe to toe with tokido and daigo. and it was from where AiAI came out of nowhere with his Juri and wrecked people on Evo.
Europeans are stupidly strong on Soul calibur.
Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans, Brazilians and Chinese are insanely strong on KOF. but each country have their on gameplay style. Japan have sick vanessas, mexico have sick angels. brazilians turned maylee on 2k2/2k2UM on a monster.
but in north america you only see people sucking capcom's dick

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>>93516888
they made that because capcom lost the contract to every marvel related gane they had made and both company didn't wanted to do shit about. even the digital versions of the fames got deleted from the psn/xboxlive.
what i find funny is that morlun didn't waste his time on that universe. he killed spidey quickly and got the fuck out even with so many tokens lying around.

Literally fucking fuck off, there's been a new X-Men movie more than once every two years on average for the last decade you massive retard.

>B-But they're not MCU!

>>93515876
That's bullshit and you fucking know it, if you like MvC you know who Cable is, period.

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>>93517205
>Injustice seems to be more played in other countries than in the US in the competitive scene.
>Anyone but American DCkeks playing or giving a shit about Injustice

Almost as likely as a Jap playing MKX

>>93517335
>this autism

They made that beacuse Slott is an idiot, it's why he killed Spindey in the Amazing Friends universe as well.

>>93510634
why is Redfield still being pushed anyway? correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't Leon Kennedy the star of the Resident Evil game everyone loves?

>>93519376
cheaper since he was in the last game.

>>93519237
it is not autism. the contracted between mrvel and capcom expired nad the HD collection and mvc3/umvc3 were removed from the stores. the only physical version that was avaible was the vita one and the price of it sky rocket. Injustice popularity and Disney talking with Devs to make a Marvel Video Game Universe is what made MVCI possible again even then it was only last year that they come into terms with capcom because of the revenue generated by showing SFV on ESPN.
>>93519179
>Warner is promoting the game's competitive scenes in other countries because it drags at lot of new people
>only americans play it
>>93519376
reused assets from previous game. Chris is hated even among the Capcom fanbase. they wanted Leon or Barry

>>93508390

Maybe to a casual, and that's fucked up.

>>93516752
You're an idiot. Everyone having an air dash closer to Mags is a good thing. The Magneto style air dash is the best in the game. So when you go for it with someone else and it's noticeably worse, you get frustrated. Not to mention that Dr. Doom, Trish, Storm, Phoenix, even MODOK already had comparable ones. The ones that were different were for flavor and situational. Also, Firebrand is in the game, so expect him to have a unique air dash. You want characters to feel unique, but not in bad ways, otherwise why even play them?
If you want to talk about going nuts, then look at being able to tag _any_ time. It doesn't matter if it's during a super, hit confirming into a combo, or while getting combo'd. This game looks to have loads more freedom than any of the older ones.

>>93508521

One, it's a staple series. Two, it's the principle.

Fans don't like being told what they do and don't like no matter what marketing says.

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>>93519602
>Warner is paying off investors to showcase their game because nobody gives a shit
FTFY. Let me guess? You thought Injustice 2 got into EVO this year do to high demand right? Remember the huge showing Injustice 1 had at EVO and then never returned?

>>93519602
Injustice had nothing to do with that shit. They were planning a Marvel Video Game Universe since UMvCs release

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>>93510056
They must have been drinking the Marvel Kool-Aid about how angry fans are better for sales.

>>93519845
Isn't that picture from a whole decade ago

>>93519875
It is a little over five I think.

>>93519640
Yeah right. look at SFV Capcuck. everyone is binded by the same gameplay style. what changes are the forced rotational balance patches that just changes the priority on the specials. there's no place for originality.
How does infinite have more freedom than UMVC3/MVC/MHvsSF or even Tatsunoko vs Capcom and its barroque tech? The fact that they will make every character have the abilities of the characters because they were good and forcing a combo limit on marvel already tells the shit show that the game will be. what made other character have good flying was because the game let player discover new options of movement with them.
>>93519719
EVO is capcom (and now smash) tournament. it was never a big tournament for other fighting games outside street fighter and marvel. Mr.Wizard himself is known to fuck other communities to favor capcom games.
Injustice is a new installment and its scene is growing. meanwhile, capcom dickriders are trying their best to defend SFV and marvel because people are dropping them to play something else. just like how marvelfags love to on non-marvel threads on this board

>>93520010
Again, you can tag at any time. That alone is less restrictions than any of the other vs. games. Plink dashing is still in the game too, so movement is still equal to the previous entries.
Also, what? Making characters better will make the game worse? lol, okay
>balance patches that just changes the priority on the specials
Oh, so you are just blatantly shitposting. We're done ;)

>>93516888
>>93519237
you do know that he's coming back in MVCI?

>>93520183
the only one shitposting is you. it the exact thing capcom is doing with SFV. they change the priority and hitboxes of the characters they want to be competitive and fuck the rest. you pretty much a contrarian faggot

>>93516093
No it isn't. The shoryuken is specifically mentioned and shown as keeping the classic input. You can test this in the demo right now.

>>93508390
TFW X-Men Children of the Atom is what started all this.

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>>93520010
>Injustice is a new installment and its scene is growing.
>growing

>>93520672
I don't like NRS games either, but the scene is growing with each release. They garner a decent following with casuals, so it's only natural that a few will start taking more seriously. I don't follow it closely, but a relatively new kid beat King Furry at CEO recently.

>>93519719
>>93520672
Why are people still so salty Injustice 2 has been so well-liked and successful? Like you come here to bitch about Capcom but can't accept the idea that anything that isn't a 2d anime fighter might be a good and well-liked game.

>>93515871
No joke liefeld was brought on to help with design work

>>93520761
It's just the current internet. People would rather hate on something than support and enjoy their own thing.

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>>93520738
>They garner a decent following with casuals
Which if the first Injustice taught us anything means absolutely nothing because casuals do as they always do and drop it once the next hot thing comes around and since the FGC hates NRS shit it'll get ignored
>>93520761
Because most of the people who like Injustice are casuals who don't know shit about anything and just like it because that clown lady from the movie they saw is in it. And no I don't consider Warner buying out reviews and investors to shill for it because nobody would take it seriously as means for nothing. Also Injustice 2 isn't good to begin with. Capcom are cheap bastards who botch presentation but MvC:I plays well enough to ignore its imperfection while Injustice hides its imperfections with makeup to disguise the fact that it still plays like shit.
>>93520857
You're saying that in a thread shitting on Capcom for not giving a shit about X-Men like everyone else has within the last 10 years.

>>93520010
>EVO is capcom (and now smash) tournament. it was never a big tournament for other fighting games outside street fighter and marvel.
Its still the biggest fighting game tournament though if it wasn't Warner wouldn't be trying to shill Injustice there when its been apparent that the crowd doesn't care for it.

>>93520890
>You're saying that in a thread shitting on Capcom for not giving a shit about X-Men like everyone else has within the last 10 years.
I wasn't specifying this to NRS. This is how the internet basically operates for everything these days. People are mad negative on anything and everything. I blame it mostly on there being too many stupid people, children and stupid children on the internet.

>>93520975
What's wrong with shitting on a developer for making shit games casuals like? People have been doing that for Call of Duty for years

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>>93521004
The problem is that most all any one wants to do. They don't want to talk about things they enjoy. Make a thread and see how long it takes someone to post how shit it is or derail it with bullshit.
Plus just dumping on something does nothing. Offering constructive criticism is much better and helps create a quality product. Be a cool guy, not a shit.

>>93508390

Every time I see this again, the rage comes bubbling back to the surface.

>>93520890
>>93520672
every single competitive player started as casual that spammed moves on his friends until he decided to learn how the game worked.
you will not have a huge competitive scene with a a game that isnt even a decade old.
We go back in time where people believed that cars would never be a thing and horses were better. or how many historical figures that were right got butt fucked across the world because people didn't wanted to give their line of thought a chance.
stop being a butt hurted retarded because almost everything related to marvel and capcom suck right now and people are calling them all out on their bullshit and going to their competitors' store

>>93513420
Do you think the normie living downstreet knew anything about Street Fighter in 2008 other than it being something his dad played?

>>93522704
Street Fighter was already a stablished franchise with how many sequels? It even had a movie with Jean Claude Van Damme and a saturday morning cartoon, so whether you like it or not, normies knew about it, it was well stablished in their memories.

Meanwhile fucking Darkstalkers? Don't make me laugh. That's the reason everyone laughs at you on this site, Darkstalkerfags, you keep bringing up your dead game and being delusional about what it could achieve.

>>93522950
You're talking like Darkstalkers wasn't consistently a top 5 earner in arcades in its day. Was it as big as Street Fighter? No. But it was a successful series by any reasonable definition.

>>93508390
blame capcom for the shitty graphics

blame marvel for the shitty roster

>>93522950
>and a saturday morning cartoon
You know Darkstalkers had a Saturday morning cartoon too, right?

>>93511898
Are you fucking damaged in the head? They made Goku and Vegeta play completely different even though they are basically the same fucking character. It's a fact. Its in the demo. You just don't want to accept that your precious MvCI is garbage of the hottest, most disappointing kind and DBFZ will steamroll it both in sales and competitively.

>>93523438
nigga, if I don't know about the Darkstalkers cartoon do you really think it was on the same level as the street fighter one

>>93509517
Mega Man is so dead you didn't even bother listing it :(

>>93516752

And that's where they fucked up at. MvC2 was a game of reused sprites and unbalanced insanity. It was fun as hell but it was a mess. Now MvC3 tried to recapture the hype/memes and, IMHO, pretty ok. The roster could have been better but hey, nothing is perfect.

Now this shitshow. They are trying to pander to 4 crowds: 1)The FGC/Tourney players, 2]The hardcore fans, 3)Casual Players, 4)The MCU fans. The active tag looks fun but everything feels soulless. This roster is crummy, rife with internal politics. You got some of the old Capcom staff working on this but have FGC guys adding their shitty input. Now everyone is in defensive mode going "This will be awesome, you'll see!!" and looking like assholes.


What the fuck happened?

>>93523528
Your brain dead ass isn't representative.

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>>93508520
Honestly I was like wtf when I saw him in the mvci. It's not like capcom is going to make another bionic commander any time soon.

>>93525102
Eh, to be fair, nobody wants to remember the US Darkstalkers cartoon.

At least the Street Fighter cartoon attempted to piggyback off the Movie and got two seasons out of it. The memes help too.

>>93523386
Capcom's side is even worse than Marvel.

>>93525457
If anything the Darkstalkers cartoon is even memier than the Street Fighter one. It's where the "curiously attractive fishman" line comes from, after all.

>>93508464
Disney was oversight on this one. Capcom was oversight on mvc3. Disney pushed an agenda. Capcom pushed curahzy

I wish Capcom picked Donte.
Don't get me wrong, DmC sucked but this game is shaping up to be such a trainwreck, presence of Donte would've made it an amusing kind.

>>93520738
>King Furry
>Lost
You're pulling my leg anon.

>>93508390
holy shit that'd just dumb.
I'm no Xmen fan but it's just stupid to think that there aren't xmen fans.

>>93508464
the only thing fighters has is new graphics, the play style is no different than any other games.

>>93508390
>So no X-men in MvCI because "no one remembers them" anyway.

Well haven't you heard, characters are JUST functions

>>93517205
>US dislikes any fighters that doesn't have capcom on the boot screen
But what about Melee?

>>93508390
Do you regret this woolie? Do you? Monkey's paw mahrvel

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I Don't think i want another vs Capcom Game is Modern Capcom is involved.

>>93508616

The X-Men dominated because they were, and still are, popular. These games are supposed to be fanservice, and Infinite is leaving out characters whom fans want the most.

Get Disney's cock out of your mouth, shill.

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>Marvel doesn't want to do anything with the X-men because Fox still has the movie rights and they see it as free advertising to the competition
>Even though X-men are hugely known and a big facet of the company's public image
>Modern Capcom is hogshit and the game will likely be terrible in any case
Sucks really, MvC was my jam growing up.

>>93508390

A couple of uggo characters aside, it still looks like it will play like an MvC game. All of the guys I main are there anyways, so I'm good.

>>93508616
>go play one of those
legitimately a good idea, any of those'll be better than this garbage, thank you

>>93527898
the re is so many problems with the with the smash comunity. but that is because they have idiots from all around the world. literal smelly nerds, pool poopers, last mounth a pro player was throwing a tantrum because his controller who had a error that made easy to make a movement stopped working and he wanted the tournament cancelled and many other problems
>>93522950
darkstalkers were one of the most popular franchises in the arcades. what killed the franchise was capcom mismanagment of fighters in the 6th generation and lazyness. every company was stepping up their game on fighters but capcom.
>>93525073
>What the fuck happened?
capcom reputation went down the toilet and they started losing money. SFV was only made early because sony funded it. we would still be playing SFIV as of now because they don't have the money for things outside MH and esident evil. what is keeping the SF alive is the Esports scene in the US. It failed to achieve its sales goal.
When SF and Resident Evil don't generate enough revenue you know they fucked up

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>>93528539
>The X-Men dominated because they were, and still are, popular.
>still are

>>93529689
He isn't 100% wrong. The thing is that people only care about 1) the movie version of these characters or 2) the 90s version of these characters. No one cares about modern comic iteration. And if they do, then they don't care about quality.

>>93513308
It could have done well if they didn't mess it up, like at least including an equivalent of the PS1's tower mode and variant modes.

Now, if it were a big mess and featureless at launch like SFV was, yeah, it'd tank very badly.

>>93510057
Mega babies was a mistake

>>93530126
>1) the movie version of these characters
Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart yes not so much everything post X-3 timeline
>2) the 90s version of these characters.
This is so true.

If it weren't for that baseball stirke 23 years ago....

>>93517205
>US dislikes any fighters that doesn't have capcom on the boot screen.

i never got why though?

most other fighting games are much more fun to play (and to watch) than most capcom fighters.

>>93527898
>smash bros.
>fighting game

turning off items doesn't make your party game a fighting game

>>93510057
nothing should be sacrificed, there is literally zero reason they couldn't put them in too.

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would Wolverine be considered at least the #4 guy in terms of global saturation cultural knowledge after Superman, Batman and Spiderman?

>>93529689
>>93530126
>>93530211
X-Men Gold and Cable currently sell the best of non-event Marvel.

>>93508390
Good. X-Men are the worst.

>>93532536
My understanding of X-men Gold (and Blue) was marketing based on nostalgia. So doesn't that help prove that people still just want the 90s X-men back?

>>93530126
are you plating schematics?

>>93531880
#4 is Spider-Man, Robin is #3.

but by now I have to assume Iron Man and Captain America both have claim to the #5 spot with Logan, Thor, Flash and Deadpool being just behind

>>93531144
>zero reason
They wanted the game out in September and made for as little money as possible.

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>>93532564
Hi Combofriend

>>93534737
Combofiend doesn't even know who the X-men are. He can't hate a vacuum.

>>93511108
>Perlmutter's embargo
ftfy

>If you really think about it the characters are just functions.
This is actually true.
But if you really think about it the function of a video game is to have fun, so why do I need this title to for that when other can fulfill that function?