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When was the exact moment in which Marvel turned to shit? Pic

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When was the exact moment in which Marvel turned to shit?

Pic related, it pisse me off that Marvel would rather publish bland mediocre unfunny book just because a couple of cosplays of her got a lot of likes while the Fantastic Four are nowhere to be seen, the X-men are on the shiter ON PURPOSE
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>>93435329
>>Fantastic Four are nowhere to be seen, the X-men are on the shiter ON PURPOSE
Honestly the MCU is the only good thing about Marvel right now so if FF and Xmen are casualties of corporate synergy I say it's a fair price to pay.
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>>93435329
It's all petty business. And pandering. Why do you think the only Marvel stuff that is doing well is MCU?
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>>93435329
Neck yourself
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>>93435373
>Honestly the MCU is the only good thing about Marvel right now

I don't know, I see al that cancer spreading to other Marvel media like the cartoons, video games, toys, etc.

Fucking ironic that the best part of Marvel is the source of everything wrong with Marvel
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>>93435329
they will keep doing this since weeaboos are getting bigger and they love cute girls doing thing so probably they will make a new "gwensomething" for keep pandering to them
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>>93435486
>they will make a new "gwensomething" for keep pandering to them

I think that the cute generic tumblr approved characters like ''the Gwens'' will be over soon but they will be replaced by some other cute generic tumblr approved book
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>>93435401
I wish the MCU was different, too many flavors to choose from and all they go for is: safe and bland.
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>>93435329
If you don't know, Gwenpool it's (sadly) the best comic marvel has released lately, all other comics, specially America, are fucking SJWs pandering.
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>>93435329
Diversity&Comics says Gwen Pool is a buried gem in the Marvel sjw shit
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>>93435329
>pic related
>shit

kys op. gwenpool is the last hope for female heroes
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>>93435572
>will be over soon
this guy is sadly right >>93436092
besides as you see a day with no thread about it
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>>93435329
While I do agree that Marvel has mostly turned to shit (and DC, too, for that matter), I have to address this:
>Pic related
Go fuck yourself.
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>>93436397
>besides as you see a day with no thread about it
My Little Pony has its own board, doesn't mean is good.
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>>93436223
>kys op. gwenpool is the last hope for female heroes

So female heroes are doomed? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiet.

I rather read the new Jean Grey book, at least she has a decent costume, artstyle and the book has clear goals since issue one, not this generic ass ''quirky'' book that is one of those '' is a comedic book but you don't see actual jokes being made at all'' garbage
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>>93436625
Nah, those bloated fandoms are history now. Stop living in the past.
It's not even popular enough.
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>>93436822
>Nah, those bloated fandoms are history now.

And that's related, how? My point is that something being liked in 4chan is not a proof for quality or popularity.
And those daily threads clearly are made by one waifufag with the same stupid annoying posts ''Cute!! Gwenpool its just so cute!!!'' that don't even invite to conversation about the stupid book
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>>93435329
>the Fantastic Four are nowhere to be seen, the X-men are on the shiter ON PURPOSE

You probably missed the 2015 event where half the Fantastic Four were killed off. It's okay, I know nobody here actually reads comics, especially the ones who come here to cry

And the latest line of X-Men comics is a massive improvement over what we had before

And complaining about Gwenpool?

Yeah, you obviously don't read comic books. Maybe refrain from visiting this board in the future
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normally I hate when superheroes get female counterparts but I think it works for deadpool because of the satirical and parody-like nature of his comics. she almost feels like a jab at other female alternate version of dc super heroes.
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>>93436948
This thing is not getting promoted at all, which means lots of people will never know about, unless someone popular start talking about it. If people talking about, that means shit is interesting. If it was a shit, people would drop it really fast, because there is nothing to talk about it anymore.
Also, no one is trying to impress you and dance around. You are here because of your own will. Is it somehow preventing you from discussing things that you like? I doubt. If there weren't Gwenpool, no one would talk about your shit anyway, it's just not interesting. There is no pattern, things just happening. "Next MLP" and "waifufags" is just shitty insult. You just want to talk shit because you can or angry, whatever, but afraid to look like a complete retard. This is why it's couple sentences longer.
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>>93437706
>If people talking about, that means shit is interesting

no is not, people over her make daily Star vs threads that only talk about shipping.

Again, 4chan posting will never be a measure of quality

> "Next MLP"
never said that

>Also, no one is trying to impress you and dance around.
What?

>You just want to talk shit because you can or angry
can you stop with the brolen english?
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>>93437211
>she almost feels like a jab at other female alternate version of dc super heroes.

Wew, just how? Even that annoying Batgirl run actually got a lot of fans and the writting wasn't as lazy and decompressed
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F4 bores the shit out of me, though.
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>>93436993
>You probably missed the 2015 event where half the Fantastic Four were killed off.

That's a bad thing anon.

>And the latest line of X-Men comics is a massive improvement over what we had before

Fuck NO, the new X books are mediocre at best with characters that no one wants
>Old man logan
>Gay Iceman
>teenage time traveler x-men
>Rightclops being killed
>>93436993
>And complaining about Gwenpool?
>Yeah, you obviously don't read comic books
there it is, I [spoityre, all you waifu tards always use the ''you are just a troll'' bogeyman.
I have read 10 issues and is crap and no, that generic ass word balloons is not clever enough to pic the book again.
If the book is not funny, creative or action packed then it has no business being published by Marvel
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>>93438067
you probably have never read any of the Fantastic Four books, let alone the good ones
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>>93437915
Series is still running, if you didn't know. People discussing it. Seems like you love to talk shit about things you have no clue.
You did.
>My Little Pony has its own board, doesn't mean is good.
Was trying to manipulate people by making them begging for your appreciation.
>that don't even invite to conversation about the stupid book
I will, if you keep getting angry.
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>>93438274
>People discussing it.
Gwenpool threads are not a daily thing since the comic started, maybe the last couple of days threads were made but beyond that the conversation for the book is usually dead.
>>93438274
>Was trying to manipulate people by making them begging for your appreciation.
For real, can you even english? You just love saying shit that doesn't make any sense or doesn't seem to be about things that anyone said in the thread
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>>93435329
Op is baiting or really hasn't read Gweenpool yet so...

Gweenpool #1 Storytime
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>>93438829
>is one anon spends his night posting a ton of images for hours out of spite episode in a cantonese traditional basket making image board.
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>>93439045
So, you want me to stop then?
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>>93435329

>HURR MARVEL HAS GONE TO SHIT
>wants more X-men and F4
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>>93439097
yes, please, specially don't post EVERY Gwenpool related comic out there, that would annoy me so please stop, don't be a mean one
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>>93439097
go on
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>>93439097
don't stop anon, post the whole thing!
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>>93439097
are you a man or a Gwenpool reader??? Post the whole thing? Sleeping? HA, only faggots sleep!
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>>93439097
if you arent posting, i am posting
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>>93439195
And I wish for you to continue, Storytime anon. Ignore the one mean dude.
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>>93439386
it's about to get CUTE
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>>93439386
yeah man, post tons and tons of pics to spite that anon guy! That will keep the thread al- I mean that would show him!! for sure!
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>>93439465
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>>93439494
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>>93439532
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>>93439468
I pity you.
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>>93439532
''they use the same attack pattern as the old X-men arcade game!''

How does that even begin to make sense?? This is a comic book, not the arcade game, why would they move like that if this is not based on a fucking game?

>4.99 for a Marvel comic

Now I'm mad.
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>>93439297
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>>93439563
Im back, i was taking a dump
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>>93439585
there is an idiot posting the entire comic just to spite a random person on the internet during a saturday night.

Pity him.
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>>93439674
I aint getting laid tonight anyway.
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>>93439724
or in the past, right?
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>>93439792
Oh my God!!! How did you know? Are you a Wizard?
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>>93439792
Not unless he get a time machine.
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>>93439674
God, it's so easy to poke right back at you, but it feels so dull. Too obvious.
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>>93439857
Maybe he is future me, warning me about my future.
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>>93440151
wrong page
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>>93440202
i doubt that any of the faggots above stayed for the comic
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>>93439674
>being that guy
Whatever the reason, somebody's sharing a comic right now. What are you doing? Kill yourself.
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>>93440307
>Whatever the reason, somebody's sharing a comic right now

out of spite for a random person in the internet? Kill that guy first, he is dead but he doesn't know it
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>>93440202
that's ok, she forgets that comic book lives matter in like 3 issues
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well, where is the rest? Hurry up or are you giving up that quick?
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>>93440390
I think you're missing the point. That faggot you're looking down on right now was at least contributing. You're just being a faggot. Get over yourself.
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>>93440019

>Murders for money with a smile on her face
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>>93440292
i read it
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>>93440429
imagine your first companion in an rpg game got killed all of sudden. you would still be sad even if it was a game character.
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>>93440180
Oh shit nigga!
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>>93440614
>Video Games Aren't My Thing: The Panel
What an interesting camera angle.
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>>93440490
ok, then.
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>>93440505
>That faggot you're looking down

that faggot that you respect so much by calling faggot, man that was actually funny!

>>93440614
the point is that drama is being made out of a character dying and ''oh no, if somebody dies it actually matters! Actions can have negative consequences!''

And issues later she is like ''let me kill this bad guy! It doesn't matter because this is a comic book!''
Going backwards in her character development.

Just like how she kills like 2 groups of bank robbers or something with her guns and swords like no problem, not getting a single hair harmed and issues later she has her training arc because she sucks at everything involving fighting...nevermind the fact that she killed some guys while dancing and laughing.

This is why Ms. Marvel is a superior book, they actually knew how to make the ''superhero in the making'' thing. She actually sucked when she started and got fucked up by ONE rober with a gun.
Not this bullshit of ''I killed a ton of guys by myself while laughing! Of course I suck at figjhting!!''
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>>93440930
All that just screams: STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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it's not murder if it's a no name generic costumed henchman
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>>93441325
More? It's actually very enjoyable.
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>>93435329
the x-men have like 7 goddamn books right now
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>>93435329

>while the Fantastic Four are nowhere to be seen

if you didnt buy their comics, you only have yourself to blame. honestly everytime someone brings up the 4, it makes me chuckle a bit because it seemed people only gave a damn after they were gone
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>>93441530
because of the Inhuman failure, not because they felt like they wanted to respect their properties
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>>93441530
10 actually:

X-men Blue
X-men Gold
Weapon X
Iceman
Jean Gray
Cable
Astonishing X-men
Generation X
Old Man Logan
All-new Wolverine
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>>93441244
>thor
>being affected even remotely by a non-superhuman kick

really?
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>>93441678
>bad
>writting

I know. Just look at that sentinel scene, she was losing but then for some reason the comic sentinels movie like a video game from like 30 years ago and that's logical beause... reasons
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>>93435329
ITT: OP doesn't read a comic and gets ridiculed
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>>93442148
>poster counter stays the same
oh look, is the angry guy that got cucked from making his spiteful storytime HAHAHAHA
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>>93441798
Maybe it will be explained that she has reality warping narrative powers or some excuse like that
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>>93442216
>poster counter increases just because of a random ass reply from a person that was already in the thread

my phone poster sense is tingling
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>>93442197
Uh, what?

That was my first post in this thread.
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>>93442287
Dude, that count increase was from ME

>>93442148
>>93442416
>ME
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>>93440930
>that faggot that you respect so much by calling faggot, man that was actually funny!

Newfag fucking detected
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>>93442500
>>93442479
>>93442416
all this effort to proove that you are not a samefagg, not suspicious at all.
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>>93442500
you fucking edge lord. can't handle yotsuba
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at the end what really trully matters is cucking that anon out of storytiming that turd.
New skill adquired, can't wait to use it again!
good night!
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>>93440930
>Just like how she kills like 2 groups of bank robbers or something with her guns and swords like no problem, not getting a single hair harmed and issues later she has her training arc because she sucks at everything involving fighting...nevermind the fact that she killed some guys while dancing and laughing.

they didnt expect her to attack. also this is supposed to be a spoof on comic cliches
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>>93442770
You are truly the most pathetic person I've ever seen on the internet. I mean that. You stuck around for this long in a thread you didn't care about just to bitch out some guy you'll never meet for no impressive reason. I hope for your sake that you're 13 or 14.
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You're just making a whole lot of noise about being wrong because you chose the wrong book as the target of your frustrations with current Marvel.

At the end of the Day, Gwenpool is one of the two or three current Marvel books that aren't shit and nothing you can really say will ever change that.

I just wanted to post here once, but you HAD to be an ass.

I'm out.
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>>93442860
i'm pretty sure it's the same autismo who does this in every gwenpool thread (and will start gwenpool threads if one isn't up just to bitch about it)
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all this butthurt from gwenpool betas
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After secret wars
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>>93441578
There were many before too

But even ignoring that, sorry to break ut to you, but 90% of the ongoings you see exist because the companies think there's a market for it, i wish this industry was based on "respect"
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>>93435486
iron gwen
gweneye
captain margwen
gwenthor

what other current female MC that aren't getting loved will be replaced by gwen?
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>>93442770
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
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>>93435329
I will never understand the handful of people with a hateboner for this series.

It's an above average book that mocks its very inception.
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>X-men are on the shiter ON PURPOSE

How so? I'm not caught up on any comics. What's happening?
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>>93445062
Just because fox owns the film rights, marvel is attempting to basically make inhumans the new x-men like making quicksilver and scarlet witch inhumans and cyclops a cunt
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Disassembled.

If you wanna be very orthodox, the Onslaught arc which ended with a segregated FF, Thor, Cap and others sent to a pocket universe.
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>>93445203
I thought they just retconned them as Magneto's kids, which technically was the old canon, but still
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>>93436092
>not Moon Knight
>not Vision
PLEBEIAN SWERVE
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>>93435329
>Thinly veiled thread for autistic screeching about Gwenpool written in broken third world English

Gee, I wonder who you are.
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>>93445401
Vision's over, dude
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>gwepool is getting it's own Barneyfag
See this is how you know you've made the big time
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First Civil War.
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>>93439724
this page was okay


the rest ranged from barely tolerable to obnoxious as fuck
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>>93435329
Gwenpool has a lot of potential as a sort of middle-of-the-road, relatable series for teens/20-somethings about feels and escapism and shit like that if the final issue was anything to go by. Honestly, you have so many series where Marvel are making good characters terrible and straight up dogshit series like America Chavez and you're going to complain about Gwenpool... a series that hardly anyone even buys about a character that hardly anyone cares about and is hardly tied to the wider Marvel universe or any important events?
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>>93445991

read more of it

the ratio of okay pages to not okay pages it at like 3/160 or so


the ratio of pages that make me feel like I might get an aneurysm to ones that don't is much higher

yeah this comic is pretty chocolate wasted

forkinthebrainforkinthebrainforkinthebrain
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>>93443272
fucking kek!!!
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>>93446137
>Gwenpool has a lot of potential as a sort of middle-of-the-road, relatable series for teens/20-somethings about feels and escapism and shit like that if the final issue was anything to go by.

This is a terrible excuse for liking that series ''see??? She likes video games and comics and can't find a job, great writting that anyone can relate!''
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>>93445203

Cyclops has ALWAYS been a cunt though.
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>>93446137
>final issue
Gwen isnt over yet!
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>>93447683
confirmed for only knowing X-men from the cartoons and movies
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>>93435373
>preferring movies over books of any kind
Shit taste buddy. I'd rather good comics over moderately good movies. I think it's been a decade since I really loved anything either of the big two has put out.
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>>93435329
>When was the exact moment in which Marvel turned to shit?
When they hired women, numales, and Muslims as writers.
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>>93446137
>a series that hardly anyone even buys about a character that hardly anyone cares about and is hardly tied to the wider Marvel universe or any important events?

America Chavez was NEVER a good character and this book only exist because ''muh diversity quota!'' so who gives a shit?

While Gwenpool is part of what started the Marvel tumblr cancer of selling shit comics with terrible premises but who cares because facebook likes and number 1 issues sales numbers.

Basically without Gwenpool, America would not be a thing
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>>93447719
When they hired shitty webcomic artists and writters
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>>93435373
The MCU has ruined:
-Movies by influencing a surge of wannabe connected film universes.
-Marvel comics with movie synergy.
-Marvel cartoons with movie synergy.
-Marvel video games with movie synergy (with the exception of the next Spider-Man game).

MCU is the cancer that people welcome with open arms. The modern Star Wars franchise is just as bad.
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>>93447772
Same thing.
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>>93447699
funny that this and her few ''actually breaking the fourth wall'' get re-posted as some proof as to how the book is really creative about breaking the fourth wall.

While Deadpool and She-Hulk have made hundreds of jokes like those and better ones too
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>>93447801
The difference is that Gwen is "cute! CUTE!!!" So everything she does is elevated tenfold because of how lonely /co/ is.
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>>93447703

Confirmed for only reading like 10 years worth of X-men

Go read uncanny
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>>93447884
>Go read uncanny
those outdated walls of text by Claremont? No thanks, Morrison's run is where is at
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>>93447801
Fourth wall breaking in Gwenpool is a major plot device, while she-hulk and deadpool just use it as jokes.
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>>93447777
this
also nice digits
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>>93447801

Except it's a super power for gwenpool, she's not cracking jokes to the audience like DP or Shulk, her 4th wall awareness is handled in a completely different way and comes from a different place. She doesn't talk with her author like Shulk or anything.

I dunno that it's a 100% original idea but it's being executed very well in 16 and 17. Have other books taken this approach? Becaus I'd like to read them if they're done this well.
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>>93447903
>Fourth wall breaking in Gwenpool is a major plot device

So? Am I meant to be impressed by that? That doesn't make it GOOD or interesting, it reads like any other story about that in which the real world is boring and when they jump into the comic book world is only tropes and tropes.

And with this book not even that! They didn't gave a fuck about the breaking the fourth wall during the first like 14 issues beyond making generic ''this is how things work in these kind of stories, tee h
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>>93447899

Point is, Cyclops has been a cunt for a long time

REEEEE NOT MUH X-MEN WHY WON'T ANYONE BLINDLY LISTEN TO ME YOU'RE ALL SHIT
-t. Cyke in Uncanny
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>>93447940
>Except it's a super power for gwenpool, she's not cracking jokes to the audience like DP or Shulk, her 4th wall awareness is handled in a completely different way and comes from a different place. She doesn't talk with her author like Shulk or anything.

Is the same generic shit with jokes about comic book panels and word balloons
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>>93447982
Almost as if Uncanny was shit or something
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>>93447959
>So?

So then it's not like DP or Shulk

You can still say it's shit, and boy, I'm sure you will, constantly and at every opportunity, but your previous complaint doesn't apply.
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>>93448014

Maybe, but that's not really relevant to the conversation
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>>93447993

Nope.
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>>93448018
>So then it's not like DP or Shulk
yes it is and making it a plot device is just lazy writting that doesn't make sense.
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>>93448278

It's different though? And how is that lazy? And you mean "sense".
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In Comics:
https://youtu.be/bZxqtqzznOo
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>>93438858
If two people is 200% more, than that guy saw 2/3 of a person fly, which seems much more traumatizing
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>>93435329
>When was the exact moment in which Marvel turned to shit?
The very exact moment when DC turned into shit, when crossovers and multiverses became an actual thing.

Each comic hero should have stayed in their damn fucking universes, they should never have met each other.
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>>93439613
Gwen comes from a comic book world indistinguishable from ours except in her world there is consistency in the Marvel Universe
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>>93440614
Islam.jpg
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>>93447758
>Basically without Gwenpool, America would not be a thing

What the fuck are you even talking about? Of course America would've been published. Gwenpool wasn't introduced via variant until after Spider-Gwen, Squirrel Girl and Ms Marvel's comics were already hits. Hellcat was already an ongoing by the time Gwenpool got to appear in Howard the Duck. Did your hatred of Gwenpool blind you to objective facts?
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