This movie was underrated as fuck.

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>>93434967
I guess. It was a really good movie, but Zootopia had it beat in everything but soundtrack. It was over shadowed by a movie released earlier the same year.
There's also the fact that Disney has this expectation of quality that makes a good movie seem somewhat underwhelming. There's no surprises, it's just what you'd expect.

At least it was better than Kubo.

>>93435109
>Zootopia had it beat in everything but soundtrack.

This might be the worst opinion in the history of /co/

>>93434967
>I AM MOANAAAAAA
I don't remember rooting for a character so fucking hard.

>>93435177
Laika fag detected.

>>93434967
needed more tamatoa

Just saw it today on Netflix, honestly it wasnt very good at all. IT wasn't bad just....there.

The best thing about the movie was the songs.

It was pretty forgetful imo. The only thing that stuck with me were the visuals during the crab monster's song.

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>>93435351

Too bad Laika is the only truly competent animation studio in this day and age that actually put effort into their animation and storytelling instead of just pressing a bunch of buttons for several days and hoping to appeal to the lowest common denominator with a "lol, they made an obligatory adult joke" shit.

>>93434967
It was predictable and underwhelming. I'll never understand why /co/ has such a hard on for this movie.

>>93435109
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhhhhhhhhhhh
furfags

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>>93436231
>I'll never understand why /co/ has such a hard on for this movie.
>Dem titties

>>93436175
Shame that all their movies fall flat near the end.
The intros are always 10 outa 10 but the just don't know how to end it.

>>93436231
/co/ doesn't have a hard on for it. if anything they hate on it more than they should. /tv/ actually likes it more than I thought they would, considering they're basically /pol/. I've only seen threads calling it kino and wanting to fuck Moana over there

>>93436175
>Laika
>Competent in anything other than visuals

Kek

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>>93436331
>titties
We all know why everyone watched that for Maui.

>>93436395

Kubo made me feel more emotional and impressed than the entirety of Moana.

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>>93434967
No, it's seriously nothing special. There is some creativity, but overall it's just another princess-wants-more movie, with the same formulaic, predictable plot Modern Disney keeps giving us.

>>93435290
That song was annoying.

Everything out of Maui's mouth was golden though

>>93436642
No it wasn't

>>93436361
>/tv/
>anything other than a bunch of pseudo-normies autistically spamming any post they see more than once as if it were a meme

>>93436690
no what wasn't?

>>93436642
>Song was annoying
How?

It wasn't good. But it completely threw me off because I was sure that pig was going to be the 'every animal is a dog sidekick character' and they threw that in my face.

>>93436895
How what? Its a song, and it was annoying. The way it sounded as a song was obnoxious. It wasn't catchy, it was just a shit song.

>>93436958
Fuck off with your shit taste

>>93436005
In a recent "Pizza-Party Podcast" (I swear I'm going somewhere with this, not just giving Pan free publicity) they had Mike Mozart on there, and he made the comparison between Moana and The Little Mermaid that in the latter, people were quoting the movie left and right whereas in Moana, people just consumed it and wasn't really conducive to being engrained in people's minds.

>>93436231
It definitely felt like a "ticking boxes" type of disney movie, but it was still leagues better than Frozen

>>93436958
Plebeian.

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>>93434967

This movie was garbage

1. Boring characters. Both of them look disgusting. Moana looks generic at best.

2. Entire boring plotline on a fucking boat

3. Rehashed backstories. Moana is an Ariel rip off

4. Jokes are flat or they trying to be meta

5. Songs were horrible, so forgetable and not catchy at all. They were mostly spewing exposition in most cases.

6. The forced chicken and little tatoo guy tried too hard as typical Disney mascots

7. The cute lovable pig was false advertising, and didn't actually go on the quest as the trailers implied he would

8. That fucking ending, good to know the main hero is responsible for the death of everyone who ever dies, and not only goes scott free, but also gets rewarded

Seriously fuck this movie. A typical production made by black suits and created out of every Disney archetype. Seriously making a main character a woman or black will automatically have critics rate this as 95% on rotten tomatoes. Fucking brainless SJW's.

>>93436331
>Moana
>endowed
>liking a movie because the characters are attractive
we've reached peak hedonism

>>93437940
>This pasta again

>>93437018
>>93437809
It was a lesser version of the Frozen song with a lesser singer. Fuck off with your brown waifu white knighting.

>>93436175
Zootopia was pretty good though. Probably would've been better if they had stuck with their original story.

>>93438190
Plebeian with no musical analysis skills to boot. Completely hopeless

>>93437940
>Moana is an Ariel rip off
I know this whole thing is bait, but Moana literally fixes Ariel.

>>93438116

>This "Moana is the most underrated movie ever" thread again >>93434967

>>93438357
No one can come up with a nonshit reason to dislike it.

>>93438190
>The absolute state of frozenfags

>>93437940
>anything based on a non white culture is sjw

Getting tired of this meme

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>>93438341
>Moana literally fixes Ariel.
YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY FILTHY WHORE MOUTH RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU CUNT!
Sorry I got triggered, but Ariel is the best Disney princess of all time! OF ALL TIME!

The little mermaid is perfect in every possible way!

It's perfect in every way, shap and form.
All of Disneys best animators of the time worked on it so the animation and characters are amazing
You have a Divin Sea Witch.
Some of the best music to ever come out of Disney.
A classic non douchebag prince unlike the modern day Tangled / Frozen ones of today.
No forced black characters (no Sabastion doesn't count because hes a mother fuckin Awesome crab.)
A beautiful half naked Disney princess thats willing to shut up forever and sells her voice just so she can get legs which she can spreed for her Prince. Now thats a mother fucking good girl right there.
Some say ...
> b-but Ariel has such a weak motivation

I ask those anons to not be so harsh. She was 16 and it was true love. How do you know it was true love ? Because "at 16 it's always true love." ~ Zelda Spellman
Besides I like that her character was slightly dopy. It made her wide eyed / childlike which made her more loveable. You feel the need to put your arm around a person like that and protect / love her forever.

>>93438480
Ariel is a stupid immature brat and most of your post had nothing to do with her herself. Ariel was shit.

>>93434967
it was shit. I saw it for free and stopped watching literally 10 minutes in

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>>93438190
YOUR ICY TEARS FUEL ME

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>>93438530
>Butthurt fat Ursula the sea witch landwhale detected.

Ariel was an explorer who dreamed of of life up above. A princess whos fiery red hair reflected her personality. She gave, and did everything she possible could to make her dreams come true even though everyone was trying to keep her down. Shes the best thing to ever happen to Disney, and YOU KNOW IT!

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>>93436331
>Dem titties

Goddamn right, Maui had the best jiggle.

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>>93438468
>meme

I wish this was true, anon, but try saying that to a black lives matters protester type. Even when Disney created a 2D fully animated princess movie for them they still found something to bitch about.

Disney was forced to change The Frog princesses name from Maddy to Tiana or Laquisha because ...
> some say Maddy sounds a lot like Mammy.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the long list of things they bitched about with that film.

>>93438430
>>93438673
Jesus you guys think I'm some kind of die hard Frozen fan? I've seen it all the way through one time and Let It go makes me want to die because I've heard it so much.
Moana, as a movie, was more fun to watch but her little signature song was shit. the fact that no kid is walking around singing it shows just how hard it didn't grab anybody.

>>93439024
Some random blogger is a pretty piss-poor source.

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>>93438817
Say what you want, but there's just no excuse for them making him look that ugly. Not that Moana was anything beautiful to look at.

I hate how grotesque Disney made them look.

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>>93434967
Meh.. it needed a little boost.

>>93439153
Google it yourself, anon. Her name was supposed to be Matty which would have been hella cute.

>>93439288
Maui looks exactly like a Samoan man. Hell, most Samoan women look like that too.
Your examples are mixed blood models, not actual representatives of just how stocky and, frankly, brutish actual Polynesian look.

>>93439288
>This tumblr tier shit

You need to go back

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What was the purpose of the pig...? Seemed like a redundant character.

>>93439551
>Bottom
It seems like they realized too well into production and just wrote him out of it completely once she left the Bionicle island

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>>93439466
>But, anon they are supposed to look fat,and ugly.

My good Sir, there is ugly, and than there is Kill IT With Fire ugly.

>>93439604
If you say so. I think you might have a problem.

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>>93439672
>Thinking this looks attractive if you look at it from just the right angle

What yet to be discovered angle would that be, anon?
If you think that this is attractive than I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you might be going blind.

>>93439837
What the fuck is wrong with you? You're responding to something no one even said. Oh wait, this is the same copy paste garbage that's in every one of these threads in an attempt to hate on the movie. Bravo

>>93439551
The pig was heavy marketing bait. Many viewers must feel betrayed by its hardly being in the movie.

>>93439984
Who would feel betrayed that a fucking pig wasn't in the whole movie

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>This was originally intended to be the artstyle for the entire movie
>They went with 3D piggu style instead because kids like it

One princess and the frog wasn't enough

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>>93440075
Of course no one went to see the movie solely for the pig. But since it was featured heavily in advertisements and merchandise, the expectation is that it would have importance in the movie. Can't you see, then, how a viewer might feel lied to?

>>93440245
The marketing department is always at war with the people making movies. They probably saw that chicken and were like "ew, no" and picked the only cute thing they could find.

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>>93439962
>Implying this whole Mona thread isn't pasta in one way or another.
Sorry to break it to you, but while there might be some pasta in this thread not everything you don't like is pasta. These posts are not pasta
>>93439837
>>93439604
>>93439288
And even if they were why should anyone have to be forced to think of new, and creative ways to say the exact same thing in each thread if their opinions of the film are still the same.

Your Welcome was the only song in this whole thing that didn't come across as a character just reading out their own bio, even though that's sort of what he was doing.
The village song about using coconut fibers was trite, Moana's theme was so ham-fisted she even shouts her own name, the fucking title of the movie by the way, at the end. Even "shiny" only sort of gets a pass because Jemaine Clement sounds like David Bowie a little bit but it was almost a Big Lipped Aligator of a scene. He even fucking asks "did you at least like the song?" as Maui and Moana escape.


Visually it had a lot going for it and its neat to see other mythologies get used but I think there's a good reason it didn't catch on with audiences. An ultimately boring story with forgettable songs. and a Disney movie needs to hit at least one of those marks correctly.

>>93440459
Why repeat yourself in each thread at all? Why feel compelled to state the same nonsense grievance "in each thread"?

>>93436175
>Laika
>Storytelling
What the hell have you been smoking anon?

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>>93440075
I still feel cheated though. I wanted to see more of that little pig. I was going to drop $50 on a bigplush of the pig , but when I found out that his character is basically non-existent in the film I didn't . He could have been the next Flounder or Olaf. He could have been one of the greats. This Princess movie is already lacking a prince. It really could have used a cute side kick character. Would it have killed Disney to just throw old school Disney fans a bone.


>>93440245
Even during tv ads the pig is shown interacting with Maui, and the ocean, yet in the film the pig never even meets those characters.

It's false advertising at its lowest. They are trying to sucker people into the theaters with the promise of Disney's next cute , adorable princess sidekick, but the pig is nothing more than a false flag.

It's like going to see Frozen after viewing all the tv ads, and seeing all the artwork of the talking snow man Olaf only to find out after you've paid for your ticket that the Snow man doesn't go on the adventure with Anna, and is only in the film for 29 seconds.

Here's just another of many examples of this false advertising.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8YF5Nk3hI

>>93440541
>Why feel compelled start the same nonsense grievance Moana thread "each flipping day"?
>Why does /co/ repeat itself every day ?
These are the questions that really make you think.

>>93440736
>this post
Anon - a man deprived of his bacon.

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>>93440736
cheer up anon.

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>>93440904
>Go to store
>See Moana box set
>Printed text on the box says "Moana of Oceania's friends join her on an action-packed voyage."

No THEY DON'T. Only the retarded chicken goes on the voyage.

The pig was supposed to go on the adventure, and the rooster was going to be a grumpy, uptight, douchebag. They would be contrasts. The helpful, sweet, silly pig, and grumpy uptight rooster that would try to stop Ariel....I mean "Moana" and get her back home aka grumpy uptight Sebastian the Crab, and cute lovable Flounder.

That is why a good portion of the toys, and other merchandise for the film heavily feature the pig, and even feature the rooster looking like an angry uptight jerk. Disney started to fear that Moana was starting to appear way to similar to The Little Mermaid formula, and people would notice so they ended up redesigning the Rooster as an idiot that worked for comic relief, and they decided to leave the pig off the adventure all together to avoid the Flounder/ Sebastian comparisons.

Because Disney is greedy they still decide to use the pig heavily in promo materials because pigs are cute, and people like cute things so they say "let's pretend the pig is still a sidekick, (even though hes not) and sucker more money out of fans who enjoy classic Disney cute sidekick characters."


>>93441762

So cute! I want one.

>>93442198
>grumpy uptight rooster
So you just developed a head canon for what was going to happen and are mad that reality didn't match it?
That's not marketing's fault, that;s you going off on a mental tangent that you had no reason to go on.
From day one the rooster was shown as a retard comic relief.

>>93442198
A lot of times the promo materials are made before the final touches are made on the movie. This is nothing new or exclusive to Disney.

>>93442198
>M-muh pig!

What the hell man

I loved it. I thought it was kinda generally agreed upon that it was really good, but that it just didn't stick like Frozen did.

>>93435109
Zootopia was good but its central message kinda falls apart when you think about it for more than five minutes.

>>93438480
>>93438712
Why do you post like a fucking Facebook commenter?

Please go back there.

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>>93435109

Zootopia could be great! Bur it had to be neutered for kids. Lame.

>>93438341
I somewhat disagree.

Moana had a drive to explore and sail, and her idea to sail and fish beyond the reef was ultimately the better idea. Her small acts of caring for animals altruistically are all it took for the ocean to side with her, and she's the one necessary to help Maoi, and is generally just kinda always right. Her struggle at the end didn't feel earned and she doesn't learn anything. In a sense, I suppose it could've worked better if there was more buildup of the volcano spirit as a threat and how Moana was fulfilling her grandmother's role of recognizing the purpose and value in people, but if that was the intention it didn't get across very well. Moana didn't learn anything.

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>>93442303
>So you just developed a head canon for what was going to happen
>That's not marketing's fault, that;s you going off on a mental tangent that you had no reason to go on.


Umm.... no, The mental gymnastics you are going though to implying that I'm making things up is amazing. Do you just not know anything about the making of Moana or do you just enjoy pulling flawed information out of your ass ?

Disney stated that the rooster was going to be the grumpy jerk aka Sebastian type character who would try to convince Moana to go back home where she belonged, and that the pig was going to be the lovable supportive sidekick aka Flounder.

They even released artwork of the grumpy uptight rooster, and lovable pig duo
>image very related

>>93442345
I understand this, anon, however the decision to kill the pig as a lovable sidekick character happened very early on in the films development process. They had time (over a year) to not feature the pig while creating the final promo materials for the film, but still did so "for reasons" aka Disney decided the cute pig would help get more butts into theater seats so they still sold the idea to the public that the pig would be going on the voyage even though they knew fully well he had already been axed from the film over a year ago.

>>93439604

Nigga.. he was cast out by humans for a reason. the gods took pity on him, remember?

>>93434967
Yes. Yes it was.
It was like Frozen if Frozen was a good movie, and was easily better than Zootopia.

I'm still salty that Moana didn't win best picture, but then again, considering the themes of Zootopia and how Liberal Hollywood is, it's no wonder they picked it.

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>>93442540

Zoot's overall message is "don't be racist!", it's less funny, CGI version of Cats Dont Dance.

>>93438226
>Probably would've been better if they had stuck with their original story
What was the original story supposed to be?

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>>93442835

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpLX_gMwKms

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I don't know which came first. Shitty LAIKA movies or the drugs.

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CHOO CHOO MAKE WAY FOR THE BEST MOVIE ABOUT POLYNESIAN CULTURE AND ALIENS OF ALL TIME CHOO CHOO

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>>93443268

Disney dont roll like that since like 2010, it's "setting first,story and issue later" an dit's gonna be like that for a looong time.

Trollz > moana

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>>93443342

in terms of visuals or songs?
what the fuck is wrong with these capchas!?

>>93439604
wasn't he like demigod and shit

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Anyone got a plausible explanation as to why it's called Vaiana in some parts of the world?

>>93443542

something about Moana being a name of a famous italian porn star.

i dont get the "Ocean's treasure" subtitle.

>>93437121
>(I swear I'm going somewhere with this, not just giving Pan free publicity
Who the fuck cares? No, really, who gives a shit?

I kinda consider the Moana as told by Emoji-short summaries to be quite well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8lkmmsb93U

Especially the Pokémon Go-part.

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>>93443550
wot

As an anon, I have consumed more than my fair share of porn over the decades but the only italian pornstars I have ever heard about is Rocco (because who hasn't) and Cicciolina (ran for mayor of Rome, iirc).

I live about 2000 KM north of spaghetti land, but it's called Vaiana here as well.

>>93436264
>Look at me ,i use memes from 10 years ago aren't i so original and cool?

>>93442835

city was a dystopian hellhole were predators were treated worse than jews and blacks during WW2,they had to wear collars that electrocuted them whenever they felt stronger emotions (like anger,sadness or happiness), Nick was the protagonist who's only "crime" was making a ghetto for his fellow predator friends,and Hopps was a racist bunny that chased him.

They developed this story for two years, but couldn't figure out the ending.WDAS asked for advice and Pixar facepalmed after seeing the whole thing.

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>>93434967
No, this movie was underrated as fuck

And Disney is now doing their own version which will get twice as much attention even if it's objectively worse

>>93443892

horrible writing though

>>93443892
Book of Life was totally forgettable. It just looked pretty.

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>>93443922
it had a good idea here and there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-fkmRaX0Wk

Coco will have a better story, but worse designs.

>>93434967
That's probably because it was just standard 'okay'. Not bad, not great, just okay. I liked the characters and the settings and the music but the idea somehow feels like it isn't fully realized.

>>93439604
The backstory for the character is literally that he got thrown out by his mom for being Kill It With Fire ugly. Now granted it wasn't accurate to the mythology in question (his mother threw him away because he was a premature birth and that scared her, not because he was ugly) but as far as the movie is concerned there is an actual reason for the ugly design.

>>93434967
It was alright, the reliance on supernatural powers kind of undercut potential character development and introduced weird plotholes, why did the sea help and try to drown Moana and shit. Could she have managed to get anything done without the help of a literal demigod. Why didn't the sea just shoot a water spout at the lava monster to hold it in place.

>>93444072
The sea really was a huge fucking asshole in Moana.

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If Pua was actually included, I would of liked it more.
Seriously, the teaser trailer shows him, he's in the beginning of the move a lot, he goes with Moana when she tries to leave the island the first time and then he just gets dropped from the movie and replaced with a retarded chicken. What a load.

>>93444143

cast was crowded already: moana, maui, minimaui and ocean.

animals mascotts were completely unnecessary, however you cant make much merchandise out of literal water and body paintings.

Sounds like people arent SHINNNYYYYY

theyll never be enough!

>>93444186
MMMMM, FISH DINNERS

>>93438468
Its true though. White culture is the ONLY culture worth talking about. Cry harder, mudblood.

Tamatoa's beat down of Maui was quite brutal. Ramming a dude against a wall and then pushing him along side does hurt.
Looks cool as fuck, though, just like when Ridley from the Metroid series does the same against Samus.

>>93444143
Agreed. It would have made the movie more enjoyable

>>93444165
>cast was crowded already
So tell the retarded Rooster to fuck off, not the cute pig character everyone wanted to see in the movie.

Underwhelming end to the revival era.

>>93444511
how do we know it's the end?

>>93442198
They were worried about Sebastian/Flounder comparisons?

Wow. That would have been the one derivative thing in this entire movie. I'm glad they left it out.

>>93444539

Two upcoming sequels, in a row, and that zoot documentary gave it away.

>>93438712
>Ariel was an explorer who dreamed of of life up above

She was a garbage-hunting hoarder board of being royalty.

>A princess whos fiery red hair reflected her personality

She literally gave up her voice because of a superficial teenage crush.

>She gave, and did everything she possible could to make her dreams come true even though everyone was trying to keep her down

Her dad was mean to her, so she made a deal with a witch so she could chase after a cute boy she saw once.

>and YOU KNOW IT!

>>93435109
>At least it was better than Kubo.
Kek, no.

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>>93444743
>She was a garbage-hunting hoarder board of being royalty.
Those were her treasures you autist, and they were wonderful.

>She literally gave up her voice because of a superficial teenage crush.
Correction she gave it up for true love, and to make her man candy bf happy. More girls should take some pointers from Ariel.

>Her dad was mean to her, so she made a deal with a witch so she could chase after a cute boy she saw once.

Her father destroyed every possession she held close to her heart. Even he knew he went to fare as he left her crying on the floor.

Unlike you she was willing to shut up forever, and sells her voice just so she can get legs which she can spreed for her Prince. That makes her the best gf/wife/Disney princess of all time. Ariel was, and is perfection, and YOU KNOW IT!

Even that Shit pro-feminist Wonder Woman "film" tried copying VISUAL moment from her film.

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I liked it okay, but it was still pretty generic. I'm getting really tired of Disney's current love of self referential humor. "LOL LOOK MOANA YOU'RE A PRINCESS GET IT THIS IS A DISNEY MOVIE!" This got really fucking tired after the last few movies. Songs were top notch tho, I really liked Where You Are. Okay but really everyone knows Shiny and everything Tamatoa is the actual best.

>>93444894
>Those were her treasures you autist, and they were wonderful.

But who cares? No big deal, she wanted more.

>Correction she gave it up for true love, and to make her man candy bf happy.

Except the thing he liked most about her in the first place was her voice, so she fucked up hard on that one.

>Even that Shit pro-feminist Wonder Woman "film" tried copying VISUAL moment from her film.

Huh.

>>93442540
The message is fine. I see it as "racism is complicated and prejudice is bad, generally". Judy's speech in the end brings it together nicely.

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>>93443306
That dog's going to die.

>>93444913
Shiny was an awful song.

>>93443876
Ending?
The entire ghetto is destroyed. Nich is taken away to be lobotomized.
Before he's put on the police car, Hops tells him: Forget it Nick. You can't change anything. This is Zootopia.

>>93442571
Sauce of the gif

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>>93445246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27IbgnYwiII
>>93445193

would teach us alot bout racism, wouldn't it?

>>93436231
the story was shit but the characters were good

>>93436506
I'm not even into buff dudes or any face that looks remotely like his but I still somehow fell for him:/

>>93446291

sad backstory really helps

>>93437940
>7. The cute lovable pig was false advertising, and didn't actually go on the quest as the trailers implied he would
I have to agree with this one, even if the other points are subjective and nit picking. The pig was prominent in advertising and everyone expected it to be the animal sidekick. Pretty Bait & Switchy

Have you considered the coconut, /co/?

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>>93435109
>the movie they put their money behind didn't live up to their expectations while the one they completely ignored smashed them completely

Never doubt your cartoon animal roots, disney.

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>>93446407
are coconuts th new watermelons?

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>>93440736
Who wants to buy merch of the dumb as rocks chicken?

>>93446574
Worst Disney comic relief character in several years

>>93446407
THE WHAT

>>93446613
He was pretty lame
But at least he wasn't very intrusive

>>93446574
those dead soulless eyes are creeping me out.

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>>93446471

unfortunately, the title of the most influential movie of the decade goes to Frozen, a Musical with TWO princesses!

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>>93446613
>mfw they hired Alan Tudyk again just to play a retarded chicken
Fucking kek. I wonder who he's gonna play in the next Disney movie

>>93446613
All he does is
1. Fall down
2. Bang head on ground
3. Eat rocks
4. Save the heart so the executives feel justified in having this character.

>>93446658
Finally saw this last year...I don't get the hype animations and effects aside. It was alright overall.

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>>93446678

another King Candy?

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>>93446658
It made a new generation of furries. That counts for something.

>>93446658
Technical foul, one of them is only a princess for the prologue and part of the first act.

>>93436175

Coraline and Paranormal were the only decent stories. Kubo is narrative train wreck and huge missed opportunity. Why are standard so slow when it comes to writing?

Zootopia is thematic storytelling by the numbers, yes, but it works.

>>93446722

it only made furries draw shitload of porn of the characters of the movie, movie is nonexistent in public.

>>93446775
These things take time. Just look at robin hood.

>>93446809
robin who?

>>93443342
No

>>93436231
10/10 soundtrack, forgettable mediocrity everything else

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>>93439024
>her prince is a white male
Naveen is Mediterranean at most. Not exactly as 100% white as his butler

>>93439288
Maui isn't described as attractive in Polynesian myths

>>93447110
Why would you want to blackmail her?

>>93439288
Moana is completely cute, I don't see the issue. I do think it's odd that they made Polynesian Hercules look like a hideous motherfucker.

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>>93437940
I kinda agreed with Max's assessment. It was fun and everythin sounded nice, but even for a disney movie EVERYTHING WAS TOOOOO FUCKING VISUALLY PERFECT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK5nv7TYC8w

>>93434967
>underrated
it did nothing new
it was every story you've seen already but with brown people
the music was enjoyable but thats all it really had
underrated? no
would we be any different if it didn't exist
probably not

>>93447110
why is she wearing a golden dress?

It was boring

>>93447646
>Too visually perfect

Is this an actual criticism?

>>93447646

Even as a grown ass man, I personally related to Moana's love of the ocean. I've loved fishing and boating since I was a kid and I've been kayak fishing in the ocean for years, and just being out there on the water on a clear blue day is... you feel like it's too good to be true some times. Moana captures that feeling fairly well.

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>>93446722
yeah, well with non breasted females I find it difficult, the bun had nice asso but that's all, all the females have flat chest... it's like in nowadays animation you cant have sexy well defined female bodies...

>>93435109
Zootopia really wasn't /that/ good.

>>93447739
Animation flaws are what make something endearing.
Being perfectly on-model all the time makes you look like a stale machine.

>>93448983
>nice ass
>flat chest
But that's perfection.

>>93449024

only furfags "love" that movie.
I used to love it too

>>93446698

It had one catchy song, butched morals, and these snowstorms at the time turned Elsa into a meme.

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>>93449066

NO, pedofag

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>>93436589
I'm not gonna disagree with that, but amongst those kinds of movies, I would agree that it's underrated.
>>93439288
I can cherry pick too.

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Can you smell

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>>93449229
What Maui's cooking?

>>93435109
>this is what Disniggers actually believe

>>93441762
Is that a bidet?

>>93434967
How so? It was a decently successful movie, not a massive moneymaker but enough to make some serious dosh. If you mean people have all but forgotten it by now, I have to disagree. What is there really to endear people about this story?

>Moana at the start
"I'm right, and everyone is wrong!"
>Instantly becomes untouchable by the very ocean itself protecting her
>Is so weirdly capable she can sail no problem, outsmart everything, and has to teach a demigod how to use his own weapon that he used for centuries.
>End of the movie
"I'm right and everyone is wrong."
>The end.

She had no arc, she had no peril, and she was really boring.

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>>93449313
yes, I heard woman used it to wash feet and pussy, useless junk when you already can do a shower but you know how female brain love useless fancy things...

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>>93434967
I didn't know pioneers still exist.

>>93449386
Isn't the bidet rather a butt-splashing thingy to clean your butt after you took a shit?

>>93449410
maybe the ass too, but for what I heard it was for feet and pussy, just imagine how weird is ask your husband you want one of those things because you want to sit in front of it and masturbate your pussy with the wather...

Maybe this can explain the woman's tradition to go to toilet in pairs...

>>93449152
>implying children could have nice asses
No, the pedofag is you.

>>93443306
Can't believe this is a Pixar movie. It looks so generic.

>>93449694
Pixar's visuals don't hold up to modern Disney to be honest

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>>93449481

>>93449717
That's not true. Pixar normally applies a certain style to their design of characters. This is like Inside Out where the humans look generic and normal. Looks at The Incredibles, Ratatouille and Up for example. People have more geometric shapes applied to them.

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>>93449784

nuPixar face.

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>>93448983
That would imply flat is bad though.

>>93449024
What movie was better last year?

>>93436175
>Too bad Laika is the only truly competent animation studio in this day and age that actually put effort into their animation and storytelling instead of just pressing a bunch of buttons for several days
Is that why all their films cost several times less then any modern CGI film? Before marketing I mean, just talking production budgets.

No love interests.
No success.

Even frozen had its ships.


If the shiny crab went from villain to wild teen boy and fell in love with moana it wouldve been fun if she kept rejecting him or something idk

>>93434967

if Moana made 1 billion dollars you would be whining about SJWs

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Reminder that this was the best part of Moanna.

>>93451689

thank you for reminding me where these shorts are from. "So we finished the movie, how about we make little cartoon during the remaining time?"

>>93450222
>No success

It was a success though?

>>93442303
Actually no you can see it if you look up the promotional poster that was in theaters before the movie came out the pig was on the boat with them and Heihei is standing there with an angry determined look on his face

>>93436589
Yeah, this was some generic ass shit.

>>93434967
Nah, it wasn't very good. The songs were... kinda meh, but I suppose not bad? The conflict was far away and amorphous, not felt by the audience. This refers both to the world dying and Moana's "I just don't FEEL right about my own role as a Polynesian princess!"

The movie also lacked momentum and meandered a bit along the way.

>>93435109
>At least it was better than Kubo.

Get out, you shit tasting pleb.

I mean Kubo wasn't the greatest movie ever but it hit harder on every single story element with better delivery and characters than Moana. I mean, Maui is good but he's not able to save the entire movie by himself.

>>93452942
>Kubo
>Good story

Kek

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..that damn crab.. i'm glad his segment in the movie looked and felt rushed.

>>93445109
Pretty hot opinion you got there, champ.

>>93449366
>Is so weirdly capable she can sail no problem
Like her father, she fucking sucked at sailing because she had no prior teaching. Maui was teaching her during the montage and she later taught her people.
>outsmart everything
Only Tamatoa, and is it really outsmarting if she takes advantage of the fact that EVERY monster is after the Heart?
>and has to teach a demigod how to use his own weapon that he used for centuries.
Maui literally hasn't used it in 1000 years. She was cheering and motivating him as he became proficient with it again?

>>93442198
>The pig was supposed to go on the adventure
I'm glad it didn't. I don't like when they try to cram in too many animal friends. One mascot character is more than enough.

>>93454179
I really, really hope their seafood can't talk.

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>>93454684

http://www.slashfilm.com/moana-heihei/
http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1590280/the-hilarious-character-moana-almost-cut-and-why

They had the rooster acting grumpy and it just wasn't working with the story, They almost cut him out completely before they went back and made him retarded and were able to add more gags to the movie because of it. The promo posters were made before the movie was even done being animated and some of them still depicted Hei Hei looking stern.

In regards to Pua the pig, HE was originally the one to go with Moana and they meet Maui in a different situation as seen with the initial teaser trailers (the "Because I'M Maui.." one).
Ron Clements decided that Pua represented home and comfort to Moana and thus should be left behind when she leaves.

>>93452942
Kubo was good, but Moana was just better, I thought. They are both the hero's journey, but Kubo is more unoriginal in that regard and actually waved around the type of story it was.

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>>93435109
>Better than Kubo

>>93446574
Nobody.

>>93454722
DELETE THIS

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>>93449229
I lost my sense of smell in the war.

>>93440736
>Olaf
>one of the greats
Olaf was one of the most annoying characters in a long, long time. Hated that snowman.

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>>93447110
Who wouldn't.

The movie got ignored and destroyed in japan when it premiered, whereas Shin godzilla won 7 japanese academy awards.

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>>93443903
>>93443992
>I liked the story of Book of Life
>I also liked the story of Kubo and the Two Strings
I must be the plebiest of plebs.

>plucky female protagonist who goes against her society's norms and expectations
>cocky, suave, and jerkish male deuteragonist who actually has a tragic backstory
>one-scene-wonder characters galore who don't contribute anything to the main plot
>surprise, contrived villain at the end

No, it's not underrated. It's literally Zootopia with polynesians instead of furries. Stop shilling.

>>93457013
Want to squeeze dem coconuts

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>>93449201
>I can cherry pick
Even your fat, frumpy pick is better looking. Not sure what your point is.
Also it's a Disney fantasy. They are supposed to make characters look cute, and good looking. Even the characters who aren't supposed to be good looking are expected to look some what appealing like the Beast from Beauty & the Beast. It's their job.

>>93447256
>Maui isn't described as attractive in Polynesian myths


The hideous Beast from Beauty & the Beast was described as a literal monster/beast, and yet The Beast's merch still sells like hot cakes to this day.
Why? Because Disney was able to find the perfect middle ground between appealing character design and "HOLY FUCKING KILL IT WITH FIRE" ugly.

Don't take my word for it though. The proof is in the unsold Maui merch. His $59.99 talking doll has been marked down to $19.95 for months at my local Walmart stores, and they still can't sell this ugly thing. Same dolls have been sitting on the shelves since the movie was released to theaters.

>>93434967
Moana is a legit 10/10 movie, it just couldn't catch a break.
Disney fucked up the release date.
It should have been postponed to a year later, to avoid being overshadowed by Zootopia.

>>93435109
This.
Laika shills aside, nobody even watched Kubo the meme stinks.
Moana ended up as a zero-crowned king, but the movie will be greatly beloved by the world's fans.

>>93457133
WRONG.
Moana, Zootopia, Sing all succeeded enough in Japan, 50M, 90M, 50M, respectively.
Disney wins every fucking year, anyway.

>>93440295
you're correct horse.

>>93434967
>People don't know what underrated means. Color me surprised.

I

>>93435177
>>93435290
>>93435351
discord PzGepJm

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>>93446773
I liked Kubo, but the pacing did feel off.

I think Laika's at its best when its focusing more on quiet exploration and less on comic relief banter. The intro with Kubo taking care of his mother was easily my favorite bit of the movie.

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>>93459752
>Moana is a legit 10/10 movie

A tripfag with a cancerous opinion. Typical.

>It should have been postponed to a year later, to avoid being overshadowed by Zootopia.

When your pick for a 10/10 movie is such generic drivel that you actually suggest that Disney should have postponed Moanas release date by two full years in order to make sure that the movie going audience has fully forgotten what a good, and original film should look like. Making your generic flick look not as crappy in comparison to a better film.

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>>93434967
This whole movie in one image.

>>93447110
Do it soon, because by this time next year she will be forgotten.

>>93435109
Zootopia was a fucking hypocritical moral soapbox piece of shit movie.

>>93461903
kek

>>93462120
Thank goodness that your opinion means about as much to me as the crusty pieces of shit dried up on the hairs around my asshole.

Who else felt the second half of the movie was rushed?

>>93462168

Zootopia is literally indefensible

>>93434967
This is the only Disney movie I've ever liked every single song in

>>93444254
>mudblood
>POTTER HEADS GRAB UR WANDS XXDDD

I hope you die of aids.

>>93435109

>people prefer talking animals over sea niggers, what a surprise!

Zootopia could have been great, if it was released at Moana's time slot.(Holliday season). But nope, let's rush it and be done. Then save entire 2017 to praise mexicans with Cars 3 and Coco.

>>93443461
In terms of entertainment. It isn't fair to put the songs up side by side because Trollz had used established hits. Moana has pacing issues and the music is more of a crutch than a device. It felt more broadway than Disney.

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>Defiant female lead goes against her overbearing father to pursue something that lies beyond her boundaries because she's such a free spirit

I know there was a time when this concept was novel for Disney movies because their earliest female characters were bland as bread, but it's fucking stale as shit now.

>>93434967
Good but would've been great if Maui was the protagonist
He's much more interesting, plus he has best song

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Moana is okay.

>>93442872
they're right. Having the collars makes the message less poignant people would have gone "oh the prey are oppressing the predators".Then it becomes a movie of waiting for Judy to figure it out too. revealing it out like they did hits harder. It's also works because it's realisticwis they kept that thought with the ending.

>>93464150
It also leads to the inevitable question of "Why would the predators even agree to the shock collars?"

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Zootopia is better than the dullest movie of 2016? Seriously each act following the boy samurai and anthro pals as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gorgeous imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of storytelling, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Knight vetoed the idea of himself directing the series; he made sure the movie would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody? Just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion by a shoe company. The Kubo movie series might be weeb (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Zootopia movie in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the animation was good though

"No!" The animation is okay; but the pacing is off. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a banter, the author concentrated on it more than on action.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that banter was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Knight's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Kubo and the Two Strings by the same The guardian. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are watching Kubo and the Two Strings at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to watch Zootopia." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch "Kubo and the Two Strings" you are, in fact, trained to watch Disney.

>>93443268
Gotta agree. Rewatched it and I gotta say, the characters are better, the story is better, the setting is better, the jokes are better, the monsters were better in Moana though. I do love the kakamora. Psycho gremlins in coconut armor is pretty damn good.

>>93464185

They were outnumbered and indoctrinated, if they caused any trouble prey had a boar commando armed with swords and miniguns who "took care" of them, the villain's plan was to mark all predators as savage beasts, and, in best case, kick them out of city.
it's pretty obvious who prey represented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqlaPttudUc

I liked Moana but I feel they should have shown more sea monsters trying to attack them because it made it seem like there journey was very safe.

>>93465053
this

the whole plot was just lackluster. moana's main conflict was her learning how to sail properly.

it could have been an epic quest through the underworld with her and maui using their wits and working together to travel and escape unharmed, but the underworld ended up having very little to do with their journey at all. the biggest villain had his song and was done in less than ten minutes, and the "real" villain wasn't really a villain at all. there was a lot of potential with moana and it felt like they set up something really great, but it ended up falling flat.

it's like if you spent a lot of time talking about how the characters had to climb a huge, perilous mountain, spent time describing all of the things that could go wrong, what rewards lay at the peak, and then the characters walked around it.

>>93434967
I had a great look, good character design, fantastic songs, and much more. But the story fell flat. It was there but just didn't really work well.

It could have been a lot better than it was.

It wasn't bad though.