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Why is FOX sticking with her as Jean? She was so fucking bad

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Why is FOX sticking with her as Jean? She was so fucking bad in AoA and now the next movie revolves around her?
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Wolverine is not an option
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Hot redheads. Duh.
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X-Men First Class is better than every DCEU and Marvel film with the exception of maybe The Winter Soldier and Iron Man
You CANNOT refute this
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>>93427963
Are they still going to shove Jennifer Lawrence in everything?
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>>93427963
what are you stupid, she's the next Jennifer Lawrence.
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It's kek worthy how bad she is. Birch LITERALLY only made two faces the ENTIRE fucking movie(the second face is pic related while OP is everything else). I was already sour walking out of Apocalypse and I remember saying to myself "I'm not paying for the next X-Men if she's the lead".

And look at where we are now.
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>>93427977
>>93427990
They could have selected a better actor, I have no problem with Jean but this actress is fucking THE WORST. Her accent went in and out every other scene.
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>>93427963
>Famke looked too old but was hot
>this girl looks too ayy lmao
Just fuck my franchise up.

>>93427995
X1 > First Class
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She's got that potato face that British redheads sometimes have. Ginny Weasley's actress had the same problem, which is a shame because in the books Ginny is supposed to be really pretty.
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>>93428055

Apparently she was on Game of Thrones which is apparently a huge hit with the normies

This is the same reason Bolivar Trask was the midget guy

Their mentality about casting is bad
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I mean, aside from Legion, Fox has been pretty consistently terrible with X-Men stuff. I don't get why you'd be surprised.
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>>93427990
But she's not even hot, bitch looks like a balding man now.
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>>93428039
Sounds like accurate casting.
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>>93428264
Bonnie is way prettier than Sansa. Sansa's skull seems to be outgrowing her face, Bonnie actually has an ordinary jawline
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>>93428312

But original trilogy casting was perfect.
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>>93428103
First Class is comfykino, X1 is nostalgia garbage.
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>>93428384
>original trilogy casting was perfect
>implying Paquin Rogue wasn't the blunder of the century
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>>93428379
She's still pretty far from the Ginny I've always had in my head. Maybe I had the wrong idea, but I always pictured Ginny as the epitome of a smoking hot teenage girl. She seems to get lots of boys at Hogwarts, and she couldn't do that if she were plain.
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>>93428379
This chick is the epitome of plain and unremarkable.
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>>93428384
>Anna Paquin as Rogue
>Halle Berry speaking in a crap accent then dropping it altogether
>Big headed annoying fucker Ellen Page as
Kitty Pryde

>perfect casting
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Is there any reason to watch Dark Phoenix other than for this semen demon?
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>>93427963
>She was so fucking bad
Just like the character
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>>93428589
There really is no reason to watch any X-men movies whitout best boy

Only reason Days of future past was great was because best boy red daddy was in it
Only reason Apocalypse was good was because best boy was in it

You can NOT deny this
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>>93428452
>>93428522
>ignoring Stewart, McKellen, Romijn-Stamos, and Jackman
Don't tell me you kids actually like McAvoy, Fassbender, and JLaw
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>>93428379
she'd definitely have been better than fuckin sansa
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>>93428634
>Only reason Days of future past was great was because best boy red daddy was in it
You mean First Class, red dad was confirmed dead in Days
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>>93428647
>Don't tell me you kids actually like McAvoy, Fassbender

Those two are good though.

Also, Rogue is my favorite, so her being so disgustingly miscast ruined the whole original trilogy for me.
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>>93428647

Fassbender is great though.
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>>93428647
Fassbender is generally pretty good, most of the time. But yeah, everyone else is awful. Especially fucking JLaw. It's incredible that a literal runway model whose biggest career highlight was marrying John Stamos managed to be a more interesting, compelling Mystique than an Academy Award-winning actress, but you know what? Here we fucking are.
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>>93428716
The Mystique role was mostly physical. How she walked, and fought and strutted around. I mean that's all models do so it was easy for her to capitalize. Plus really good makeup.
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>>93427990
>hot
>implying

casting disaster of the century
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>>93428716
Same thing more or less happened with BvS and Wonder Woman, too, where a model who can barely speak English was more interesting than Cavill, a legitimate actor, ever was. Maybe acting isn't actually that difficult.
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>>93428647
You're so desperate for a text fight it's embarrassing.

I for one liked them all, everybody has brought something nice to the table.
Jeez kid, like what you like, let others do the same.
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>>93428880
BvS suffered from having Superman go through the same shit we already saw in MoS except worse. Cavill was great in Man From UNCLE
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>>93428634
They should just drop Dark Phoenix and make the next X-Men movie about cute Kurt doing cute things.
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>>93428384
Nostalgia is a powerful drug.
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>>93428055
Wait, so this was true?

https://brappp.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/blind-item-04062015/
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>>93428959
>I for one liked them all

Even JLaw? Even back in First Class before she got super famous, I thought she was terrible.
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>>93428979
>Cavill was great in Man From UNCLE

True. He's originally British, right? Wonder why he's never in the conversation for "next Bond".
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>>93427963
Yeah Apocalypse made me realize how bad of an actor she is. I thought she's passable in GoT but that's just because Queen of Burgers is such a ridiculously terrible actor even a cardboard cut out looks like Laurence Oliver comparatively.
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>>93429172
He is British
I don't know. Maybe he doesn't wanna do it because he's Superman. Maybe people don't like how he's fucking a teenager.
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>>93429082

Next you'll tell me their new makeup studio doesn't suck.
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>>93428647
Fassbender and McAvoy act circles around the rest of the cast you dense cunt.
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>>93429172
>Wonder why he's never in the conversation for "next Bond"

Too bald.
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>>93429197

>Maybe people don't like how he's fucking a teenager.

Do elaborate
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>>93428780
Meh. I'd still hit it. Though I would have preferred Molly Quinn. Now she is a hot redhead!
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>>93429053
After Dark Phoenix bombs and all the critics hate it because Fox can't make a good X-Men movie without pushing Jlaw, all the X-Men will be dead.

Cyclops will be dead. Jean will be dead. Night crawler will be dead. Storm will be dead. Jubilee will be dead. Literally everyone will be dead.

And retarded Fox will blame the characters for the bombing and not their shitty incompetence.

Then they will remake the X-Men with new members (probably some from the New Mutants movie even). Maybe even have Deadpool lead the X-Men.

Cyclops, Jean, Nightcrawler, Storm, Jubilee, Beast, and the rest will never be seen and allowed in a film for decades.

Because Fox raped them and then blamed the victim.
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>>93429235
That didn't fucking stop Sean Connery!
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>>93427963
I wish Fox would just give the rights back to Marvel already.
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>>93429053
I would LOVE if they made him a swashbuckler again. Even just a throwaway scene with him watching Errol Flynn movies in the beginning and a contrived excuse to give him a couple of swords for the final battle would do.
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Since when does Hollywood care about superhero movie casting?
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>>93428452
>>93428522
>>93428680
There was nothing wrong with Paquin Rogue for the character they wrote, which wasn't comics or 90s cartoon Rogue. This looks like Not Muh to me.
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>>93429239
He was dating some 19 year old bitch for a little while.
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>>93429415
You jelly anon Of the girl
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>>93429107

No, Bryan Singer is gay as they come. He wouldn't have cast her based on looks, and the idea that people get cast based on sex is a myth - outside of small indies that struggle to attract talent, there's absolutely no reason to offer someone who can't act a job just because they fucked you.

Because you're married to them - that's actually fairly rare but a lot more common than the casting couch myth coming true.

It's not that people don't fuck the pretty young things, you understand, it's that there's no jobs handed out on the basis of it.

>>93428103
>too ayy lmao

Because she's got the redhead gene; she's not a natural ginger, but she's got the gene.

Makes them all bug eyed.

>>93428307
>their mentality

People are cast based on how well-known they are (as determined by Q scores taken from public canvassing, and by viewership/box office receipts of things they've been in).

Game of Thrones is huge; I think it was the most-pirated show worldwide at one point, it sells a lot of merch, has prop tours that are well attended. It's basically soft porn but who cares? It sells.

And because it sells, the people in it are in demand. All of them. She just happened to get the Jean role (probably because they didn't realize she's not really a redhead, which means she can at least look the part).

>>93427963

Because they've probably signed her for, based on what we know of the First Class cast, three pictures. If they re-cast, they have to pay her off and she gets residuals from the movie anyway, just like if she'd been in it in the same role; if they don't use her character, she's getting paid anyway (but no residuals). It's the Billy Dee Williams/Harvey Dent thing all over again. He still gets checks for the Schumacher movie Tommy Lee Jones was in.

The choice is; reboot everything (and re-cast everyone, not just her), dump her but pay her anyway, or put her in and hope her speech coach can get her accent to improve. Of the choices, the last is preferable.
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>>93428035
No, at her age Jennifer Lawrence was already A-list.
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>>93427963
GoT fans and comic book fans have a lot of overlap
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>>93429288
>Cyclops, Jean, Nightcrawler, Storm, Jubilee, Beast, and the rest will never be seen and allowed in a film for decades.

pls no
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>>93429386
>for the character they wrote

It was a shitty character that had very little in common with the Rogue we know and love. That's a valid criticism.
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>>93429574
One can argue, including Grant Morrison who did in his initial X-Men pitch, that the movie Rogue or the goth Rogue from Evolution is more like how a character with that powerset would act. You're lucky Grant didn't get his way and get the greenlight to retcon comic Rogue to be more like movie/Evolution Rogue.
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>>93427963
Same reason that other guy was suddenly a huge part of Resident Evil: Game of Thrones is/was big and they are trying to capitalize on her draw. Fucking disgusting the way Hollywood operates: they don't hire the best people for the roles, or make the best movie but the people and movie that will put the most asses in seats. Another example of capitalism utterly failing to create the best product instead creating the most profitable one.
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>>93428312
What's with this whole "Fox X-men is shit" is shit meme. X-men 1 wasn't great but it was certainly good for its time. X2 holds up as one of the best cape movies yet. X3 is okay, not great at all but an entertaining enough action flick that people only hate on because "muh Scott!" X-men Origins Wolverine is the only one that's truly terrible.

With 9 total films they have a pretty good track record overall. Especially considering X2 and Logan are some of the best capeshit put to screen.
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>>93429859
All the X-Men films have been a solid "okay". None are particularly amazing like Logan, Deadpool, Winter Soldier, or GoTG, they're just serviceable popcorn fluff.
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>>93430056
DofP is way better than Logan.
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>>93429859

X1 and X2 don't hold up and besides First Class and Logan the others are garbage.
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>>93430078
>X1 and X2 don't hold up
Source?
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>>93430066
Not even close.
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>>93427995
The only good parts are the Magneto and Charles stuff. I think people that suck First Class's dick forget how much Havok, Banshee, Twink Beast, and Younger Amy Schumer are in the movie.
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>>93430184
>I think people that suck First Class's dick forget how much Havok, Banshee, Twink Beast, and Younger Amy Schumer are in the movie

I liked them as well though. I think the only part of First Class that was pure shit was January Jones.
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>>93430220
>non-characters without arcs
What was good about any of them?
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>>93430255
>characters need arcs to be enjoyable or entertaining
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>>93430255
Cute twinks are nice to look at, turbo faggot.
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>>93430344
Also, this criticism can apply to literally every X-Men movie. No one outside of Wolvie, Jean, Xavier, Magneto, or Mystique get any real focus or character arcs.
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>>93430171
You're right. DofP is so much better that it isn't even close.
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>>93427995
I refute that.

And she wasn't in FC.

>>93428039
the face sansa made on wedding night
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>>93430415
>DofP is so much better

Are there actually people out there who think this? Or is Singer posting on /co/ again?
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I liked her as Jean but they didn't give her much to do. I'm sure she'll get more focus in a movie all about the Phoenix.
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>>93428312
X2, FC, DOFP, Logan, and Deadpool are all great. That's not just my opinion. That's a consensus of critical acclaim, whether you like it or not.
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>>93430344
Main characters that take up a lot of screen time should, yes. If they were background I'd agree with you, but they aren't.

>>93430403
Not every character in the movies is supposed to be a main character and hold my interest in the same way as the "first class" was supposed to. The movie does a shit job making me feel anything about them.
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>>93430991
Plenty of people with pleb taste who prefer standard cape stories over neo-westerns.
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>>93430184
>I think people that suck First Class's dick forget how much Havok, Banshee, Twink Beast, and Younger Amy Schumer are in the movie.
This is why most people like it. It was the movie that came closest to being an X-Men movie.
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>>93431059
>If they were background I'd agree with you, but they aren't

But they clearly are. Imagine bitching about an ensemble in an X-Men film, of all things.
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My god, I wish /tv/ would collectively up and fucking off itself. Every single user who visits that board feels the need to spread their cancer for some reason.
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>>93431512
I think you're confusing "not the main character" with "background character." Moira is a background character. Azazel is a background character. The titular characters are not background characters.
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>>93430083
>Source?
Marvelfags


Anyway, nice thread.
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>>93431579
>Moira is a background character

Seems more like a main character desu. The X-Men themselves are all BG characters.
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>>93427995
Logan>Winter Soldier and Iron Man>First Class>Every other MCU and DCU film
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>>93428495
thats what makes her a perfect tumblr casting: plain, unremarkable, always the center of attention, and the power to destroy worlds.
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>>93431566
Are you implying it's only /tv/ that doesn't like Sansa as Jean?
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Reminder that X films are made to spotlight twink boys. Having them cast women is like having a normal guy pick out a Hallmark card, they just don't give a fuck and want to be done with it.
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>>93431059
A story can only sustain so many dynamic characters before it turns into a confusing mess.
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>>93427963
>She was so fucking bad in AoA
All of AoA was fucking bad.
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>>93431981
What's AoA?
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>>93427963
Should've hired Katherine McNamera.
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>>93432088
Age of Altron.
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>>93431783
>Reminder that X films are made to spotlight twink boys

I wish more films did this.
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>>93431981
Quicksilver and Nightcrawler were good in Apocalypse
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>>93432088
>>93432186
must be the Mandela effect at work, same with TASM2's shitty subtitle ("The Rise of Electro") that it never actually had, yet movie sites and forums kept mentioning it for some reason
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>>93427990
>hot
She has aged so bad.
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>>93432247
So wait, was it called Age of Apocalypse at some point?
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>>93432289
Men age like wine, women age like milk
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>>93427963
Every time /co/(/tv/) complains about a redhead being replaced by a hot black chick I flash back to this and wonder if this actress is really what they want more of.
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>>93432364
no.

one of the funnybook storylines the movie's based on was tho
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>>93427963
Because she is so fucking beautiful.
Also to support the JonSa
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>>93432462
She has cellulite and a slight double chin, but my GOD does she look fuckable in a choker.
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>>93432423
only because you're new as fuck and weren't here to witness the shitstorm when this uggo was cast as MJ for Amazing 2
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>>93432462
She has a huge manly neck
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>>93432555
I remember that too. It just wasn't at the height of bitching about Iris West.
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>>93432462
Her skin looks horrible.
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>>93428716
Why did she not come back again?

Are they just trying to get their money's worth out of Jennifer Lawrence?
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>>93427963
Game of Thrones audience
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>>93428880
>Maybe acting isn't actually that difficult.

I'm pretty convinced that if a movie has generally good or bad acting that's all on the director. Actors should get little if any blame or credit.
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>>93432862
They didn't want her. Too old.
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>>93428647
McAvoy and Fassbender are the only good actors in the new franchise.
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Why not just use a cute nobody to play Jean Grey? It worked for Star Wars with Rey.
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>>93429197
>>93429415
Is 19 below the age of consent in Britain? Do they look at him the way we would look at somebody who went to Germany to bang a 14 year old?
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>>93432992
>the only good actors in the new franchise.

No.
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>>93432189
You sound like a degenerate.
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>>93427963
I still don't understand why they picked her in the first place.
Jean is all about passion and shit, and all she does in GoT is cry every few moons and poker face her way out.

I wouldn't give a fuck if she played some secondary role or so, but fucking JEAN.
Whoever made the casting should be burnt alive.
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>>93433456
>he doesn't like cute twinks

Gay af.
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>>93432462
looks like a man.

Hell, she looks manlier than the guys in Apocalypse.
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>>93428379
She's in her early twenties at least and already looks like she's in her late 30's
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>>93433528
Because GoT is popular and it appeals to the same audience
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>>93427963
Not as bad as Jennifer "Only im an ordinary person but also a massive attention whore" Lawerence.
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>>93433154
She is the worst part of that awful movie, I hated the black guy but she is just so bad as main character and actress.
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>>93432484
>she look fuckable in a choker.
Totally agree.
>>93432776
>>93432816
>>93434369
WTF is wrong with you??? She is objectively good looking, average at worst.
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>>93435958
She looks like a man, anon. Are you sure you're not just gay?
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>>93427963
>AoA
The movie is called Apocalypse and had nothing to do with AoA. Why /co/ casuals think Apocalypse only ever had one story and assume every time he is used in anything it needs to have something to do with AoA?
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>>93437377
>co/ casuals
You answered your own question
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>>93429859
>What's with this whole "Fox X-men is shit" meme

Mostly the extreme "not muh" of x-fags. No one gives a shit that the MCU turned Thor into a surfer chad, but god forbid that Jackman DOESN'T WEAR THE SUIT!!1
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>>93437098
She is one of the most feminine and beautiful looking women.
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>>93438464
>using an old image as justification

She is balding and has the shoulders/neck of a football player.
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>>93438543
>>/got/
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>>93438464
She looked so good back then.

The Stark girls have aged poorly.
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>>93438720
At least Arya's actress is so overwhelmingly weird she's just going to wind up as "distinctive." Sansa's actress is just ugly.
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Jen Lawerence and this Sansa are fucking ugly. Even shemales look more feminine than these two talentless cunts
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>>93438974
I keep thinking Arya is ugly and then she comes out with a new photoshoot that makes her look hot. It's some kind of bizarre cycle.
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>>93438464
>Turnerfags will defend this
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>>93438974
You're delusional if you think Arya looks better than Sansa
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>>93439121
That's why she is wearing a wig in season seven of GoT
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>>93438643
Her shoulders are as broad as her boyfriend's. And he's wearing a jacket that tries to make his look bigger.

Honestly Scott hooking up with Kurt rather than Jean would be the less gay option.
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>>93429367
Absolutely disgusting. Why fuck up your established characters?
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>>93439281
she could be a hermaphrodite for all we know
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>>93439281
>Her shoulders are as broad as her boyfriend's
He doesn't know what '80s shoulder pads fashion for women was...
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>>93429281
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>>93439123
Oh, I said nothing of the sort. Or at least I didn't mean to. What I said is that Arya is SO ugly that it actually becomes kind of striking and memorable. She's basically a female Steve Buscemi. She's ugly, but it's an ugly that kind of draws you into her as an actress. It's a USEFUL ugly, let's put it that way. It's an actorly ugly.

Meanwhile Sansa is just a potato-faced English slag. She'll be out of acting once GOT ends. Just plain old ugly, and she looks like she has a tendency to fatten up, too, which won't help her.
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>>93429346
He had a scene in the recent Spider-Man/Deadpool series where he was dueling them with swords to give them some practice and also talk them through some difficult times.
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>>93430078
You don't like Days of Future Past at all?
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>>93429107
>brappp
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>>93428379

That's a piece of trash compared to Sophie Turner.
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>>93427963
May I ask you something? Why do you post live action capeshit movies when this is not the right board? THIS IS /CO/ - COMICS & CARTOONS, NOT /TV/!
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>>93442348
It's still /co/ material, faggot.
That's like saying puppets aren't /co/.
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>>93442348
Because the lowest common denominator won't go to the appropriate boards for some convoluted reason
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>>93442682
>live action capeshit is /co/ too, just because it's capeshit
You capefags disgust me.
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>>93442813
No, it's /co/ because it has content that came from /co/ material.
Capeshit isn't a necessity.
For example, the film of Sin City is fine to discuss here and that's not capeshit.
Go fuck yourself, faggot.
Your whining isn't going to change the rules.
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>>93442837
Yes it came from /co/ material, but live action and video games are still not /co/ shit. Get over it nigger.
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>>93442881
Well, the mods say otherwise.
I think you're the one who needs to get over it because they are /co/.
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>>93442892
http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/93442857/
Mods are butthurt Live Action capefags.
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>>93442907
No, they just deleted your stupid thread because it was just shitposting.
There was no quality discussion to be had.
Feel free to ignore what I'm saying and cry more, though.
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>>93442892
>/tv/ capeshit shit is /co/, just because it's capeshit
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>>93427963

Probably because they signed a contract with her for x amount of films and have already payed her a fair amount of that money.
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>>93442930
See the difference.
>live action capeshit is capeshit, capeshit is /co/, so live action capeshit is /co/
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This all started with stupid fuckers thinking Miley Cyrus was hot and a sex symbol. Holly wood realized that the new trend among the newer generation was dull facial features and a body like a 10 year old boy and they didn't have to have talent. You fuckers created this world, deal with it.
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>>93442937
Quite literally not what I said if you check my post before that.
Since you're too stupid, I'll link you to it so there's no misunderstanding >>93442837

>>93443067
That's completely wrong, which is why the mods don't delete the threads.
Not only is this like thinking puppets aren't /co/, but now you're getting into "claymation isn't /co/ because it's made of real life stuff" territory.
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>>93443255
Puppets and claymotion are /co/. Live action people aren't.
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>>93443277
Then tell me, why don't the mods delete the threads and ban those who make them?
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>>93443295
Because they're deluded /tv/fags.
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>>93443298
If that's how you want to interpret it, then we'll go with that.
Now, seeing as how they're /tv/fags and they're in power here, as the enforcers of the rules of /co/, then wouldn't it stand to reason that capeshit /tv/ material is /co/ material because those in power say that it's fine?

The correct answer is yes.
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>>93429281
NICE
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>>93441557
They're both trash senpai
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>>93427963
Same reason they pushed JLaw so hard.
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>>93445104
Because people have shit taste?
They both look like gremlins.
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>>93428647
lets not forget how they fucked over Beast so back in the new universe. Fraiser Beast was perfect
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>>93428780
She had a really sexy voice too. And I thought that soft voice worked really well for Jean
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>>93433187
16 is the age of consent in Britain, but people here still think it's creepy if you fuck someone way younger than you
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She would be much better!
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>>93445269
At least she's pretty cute, rather than whatever the fuck Turner is.
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>>93435958
>pierced nips


The absolute S L U T
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Because she's ugly
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>>93435958
just looks incredibly boring to me. my eyes just pass right over her like she is not there
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>>93428716
>in an interview Romijn stated she enjoyed walking around basically buttnaked on set all day
God damn Mystique made my dick so fucking hard in the original trilogy
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>>93445269
good look, can she act?
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You know, I really don't care about this movie at all. The cast is crap except for X and Magneto.

What I do care about is New Mutants cause it's fresh characters and some really amazing characters. I know they can't do anything with the main cast except suck off X, Magneto and Logan. But maybe with them out of the picture we can get some focus on other X-men.

plus Demon Bear Saga >>>>>>> Dark Pheonix Saga
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>>93429476
>Game of Thrones is huge; I think it was the most-pirated show worldwide at one point, it sells a lot of merch, has prop tours that are well attended. It's basically soft porn but who cares? It sells.

Shame most of the actors fucking suck and getting them doesn't actually make your product sell.

Terminator with the dragon chick bombed

Call of Duty Infinite Warfare with John Snow bombed.
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>>93429281
>Molly Quinn
MAH NIGGA
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So is it gonna be a new timeline?
Logan pretty much implies that everything just ends badly for all mutants
Unless they got Deadpool to travel back in time with Cable to fix the past (again) in the next sequel
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>>93430184
>everyone's starting to notice how much Magneto, Wolverine and Xavier carried the X movies
>every time new/different mutants who aren't them get featured too heavily in a movie people either hate it or Fox casts the most charisma-less, talentless awful twinks/ugly girls on the earth to play them

How do we fix this? People liked Quicksilver and Laura.
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>>93445504
Those episodes of Doctor Who with the fridge gremlin didn't necessarily bomb, but they were shit nonetheless.
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>>93427963
>>93432462

>beautiful

She's beyond average and she has a fivehead.
She looks like any bland, annoying, not-even-that-hot-with-makeup girl you'd see 4 duplicates of every day in your high school or college. I don't want to see that in a movie. Plus she can't fucking act which makes her even more irritating to look at and is playing an already awful character.
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>>93445504
>>93445953
Nevertheless, the method underpins all casting decisions. That it's proving not to work because these people only looked like good actors with literal pornstars on the screen with them doesn't really change that.

>>93445524

Believe it or not, it's all still the same timeline. None of the movies ever paid much attention to continuity, even before First Class.

>>93429281
Are there images of her where she has adult sinuses or does she always look like a preteen
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>>93429574
Yeah but that's on the writers, not the actress.
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>>93427963
You may like it or not but that's how most natural redheads look like. They are different from the standard jewish beauty so valued in Hollywood. It's not just the color of the hair, it's skin shade and face features.
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>>93446357
The thing is:
She is natural blond
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>>93445470
Pleb reporting in, what the fuck is the Demon Bear Saga?
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>>93427995
At first I thought, no, it's good, but it's not that good. Top 10, but not top 3. Then I realized you said FC and not DoFP. No, absolutely not.
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>>93446413
Rather mead colored. But red heads a born among the blond people in general, indeed. None of them looks like henna dyed brunettes.
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>>93446413
>>93446357
she's on the ginger spectrum, blonde or not

no mistaking those genes

>>93446434
there's this bear that's also a demon

and there's this probably borderline racist story about it killing the original Warpath and his brother taking over

it's exciting, and it's tied to the early New Mutants stories heavily, but it's not very good

>>93446435
>Top 10

i see what you did there
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>>93446545
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>>93446587
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>>93446587
>>93446606
It's artificial, my cousin lights up her reddish hair the same way.
Were she pure blond her brows would be much lighter.
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>>93446434
The New Mutants major storyline and the story that brought the idea (at least to the big two) that fine arts has a place in comics. He was the guy who opened the door for people like Dave McKean and David Mack.

go read it
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>>93446587
She actually looks good here, unlike in the movie
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>>93446625
My cousin has eyebrows like that and she has the same haircolour like Sophie has in these two pictures
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>>93446625
eyebrows aren't a reliable indicator of "true" hair color; for one thing, they can be dyed, for another, they're composed of shorter, usually thicker hairs than those found on the head

while hair color itself is determined by the mixture of two pigments produced in the follicle (blondes having less of the dark pigment; redheads having more of it, but in combination with a lot of the lighter pigment), each follicle does not produce an identical mixture to its neighbor (which is why grey hairs come through individually at first, why you have darker/lighter hairs than the average visible on the back of your arms, and so on)

in addition, the cross-section of each hair contributes to the way it falls; very round hairs are straight, flatter hairs are curled, and this also affects refraction, so that lighter hair which is curled can appear darker, but by the same process, straighter, rounder hairs (such as eyelashes/eyebrows) can appear darker because the hairs are physically thicker than their head equivalent, despite being pigmented (on average) the same way

over time, especially toward the beginning/end of puberty, hair color tends to change (and at other points, in relation to hormone levels in the body generally); it's more common for blonde children to darken, and in general a lightening of hair is a prelude to greying

>>93447138
your cousin's a mousy blonde who dyes her hair lighter
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>>93428055

Star power

Same reason Mystique suddenly became the Chosen One Paragon in Apocalypse

God that movie was 9/11
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>>93427995

First Class was a bore

Jesus, it's so easy to fall asleep in that one.
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>>93428522

It's funny you say that cuz Ellen Page wasn't in X1
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>>93429288

>Maybe even have Deadpool lead the X-Men.

No

Laura
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>>93429181

She's okay in Game of Thrones because the character herself can be defined as "boring, unlikeable, shallow, etc."

Which her acting brings across perfectly.
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>>93445504
The thing is that most of the current characters used to be pretty young and their roles almost drastically different

Both Sansa and Daenerys had to be just relatively cute girls made for suffering and crying.
Jon just had to be the awkward bastard.
Arya was a literal kid, and so on.

But now that their characters are evolving we start noticing they never really had much range as actors. Jon and Dany can't pull off the confident leader role, Sophie is just weird, Maisie i think pulled it off better than the others but it's been a while. But they are the faces of the show so it's not like they can suddenly be replaced, and GoT is extremely successful so producers and normies think they should get all the roles ever. It's about to end anyway
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>>93447574

>Maisie i think pulled it off better than the others

And even in her case she grew from a relatively cute kid to Quasimodo
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>>93427963
I'd rather her than Jennifer Lawrence desu
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>have access to cute claw girl
>using any other characters
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>>93447607
Yeah, i guess, although i still found her attractive enough 1-2 years ago, in her weird way. But i was talking about the role, Arya is a weirdo so ironically enough she never needed much range in the first place
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>>93447649

She probably needs a couple years on her
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>>93447424
>>93447677

You know Fox sucks at casting when I genuinely don't have faith that they could effectively cast someone to fill the boots of a literal child. It's a shame Daphne Keen won't be old enough to play Laura by the time they start making New Mutants and instead we'll probably get another Sophie Turner-tier literally who actress shitting up the New Mutants movie/s.
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Maybe if we're lucky she'll have a topless scene.
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>>93447574
>It's about to end anyway
Next year. Well, unless we got those spin-off series....

It can last forever, or at least as long as it basically prints money.
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>>93427963

She is jaw-droppingly ugly.

Like, look, I'm not the kind of person to shame people based on their appearance. But Jean Grey is supposed to be smoking hot. That's her defining characteristic, DESU. But that woman looks like the 'after' in one of those botched surgery comparison images.

Only a gay dude like Bryan Singer would look at this drag queen looking bitch and think, "Yeah, that's what men find attractive. Right?"
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>>93433154

you must be baiting, she's the worst parts of her movies.
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>>93448799
Yeah, but new series would imply new stories and most likely characters/actors, so the producers can keep things cheap
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Adapting the 'Dark Phoenix' arc when you don't even know or care about the Jean Grey character is about as stupid as doing the 'Death of Superman' arc before you get to know or care about Superman.
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>>93449017

the problem is they know new actors are weakest link which is why they rehired assbender and macavoy, which also brought jlaw back because she conned those two idiots into negotiating with her.

so you get last trinity of last series of movies back and basically use them to prop up young actors you don't believe in and even bring in some other comic characters like dazzler and maybe showcase some other characters down the road.
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>>93427963
Can THIS be the movie that forces Fox to give the X-Men back to Marvel?
Or are that really THAT oblivious?
I know they are but it appears that that level is something we've never seen before
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>>93431670
It's only /tv/ who insist on bitching about live action movies on the Comics and Cartoon board
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>>93427963
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>>93449207
This is a valid non-/tv/ complaint
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>>93449162

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=deadpool2016.htm


>fox ever giving up this accidental embarrassment of riches
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>>93449282
That movie was too successful for its own good
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>>93449332

It showed them that their non-main bran shit can be super successfull which is the worst part because Fox has a deep bench that they've never touched because they're hacks disconnected from the world they're trying to sell.

RR gets tossed a comic by a random behind scenes asshole because he saw a joke about RR and a dog's ass resembling deadpool and then he goes on an obessive tear to get it made, basically out of sodder and sticky tape and it's best profit gross fox has ever seen when in same year they're dropping this

and hilarious part is only thing it didn't do is make back it's marketing budget and this was an unmitigated disaster that hasn't been seen since new han solo origin film that got directors fired with 3 weeks of shooting left.
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>>93449426

brand* - successful*
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>>93449332

Not its own good. But I can see a future filled with R-rated comic book movies that completely miss the point.
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>>93445269

We won't be getting a new Jean until they re-cast everyone again, but she could be a great Rachel Grey.
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>>93428325
Yeah she's ugly and stumpy, Jean should be a thinner lithe face. Phoenix is always depicted with prominent cheekbones.
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>>93443277
>>93443255
How exactly are puppets /co/ material? Puppets aren't a form of animation, so shouldn't they default to /tv/?
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>>93451547
You'd think so, but mods have told it's cool.
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>>93445269
I have been defending Sophie but I have to concede here, Jane is really hot.
Why the red heads are usually so beautiful???
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>>93451547
Animation is the creation of the illusion of movement in drawings or puppets. This might be actual movement rather than illusion, but it's still very borderline.
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>>93447574
Alfie Allen is basically the only decent actor out of all the younger ones.
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Why do people hate this actress? She's really good in GoT.
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>>93453339
No, she's not.
She can't act and looks like a foot.
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>>93453339
>She's really good in GoT.

No.
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>>93453339

Agreed.
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>>93453339

she has bong chav-itis
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>>93432447
The Apocalypse movie had nothing to do with Age of Apocalypse besides having Apocalypse be present in both.
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>>93454037
Kill yourself
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>>93445269
>>93445432
jane levy is good actress, easily better than sophie turner. levy conveyed great horror in evil dead and did her best to give dont breathe a likeable lead, even if her character was a degenerate bitch. the fact she is most well known for a abc sitcom might be damaging to the range she can convey, since the 2 i mentioned are DRASTICALLY different than a family friendly show. she is short, like 5'2 or something, but im not sure that would matter given how fantastic her as jean grey would be in every other regard.
her most recent movie is monster trucks. it was a flop to the point there arent even youtubes making 20 minute long hate reviews of it. i think shes allowed that one mistake
i might still watch it just to see how bad it is
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>>93455786
Levy's problem is that she keeps choosing to star in flops.
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>>93446224
First Class was supposed to be a reboot right?
Then Bryan Singer was on board and they made it canon again?
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>>93457049
Matthew Vaughn needs to come back and fix the series.
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Who cares about Jean, they need to recast Cyclops
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>>93458512
What was wrong with Apocalypse Scott?
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>>93458896
His face
Also he is too short
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Sorry, the only reason she was cast was because of Game of Thrones. There are much better choice for Jean, such as:

Emma Stone
Karen Gillan
Molly Quinn
Jane Levy

Hell, even Bella Thorne
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Boy, this irrational hatred is almost as bad as Gal Gadot
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>>93459088
Gal Gadot's hatred was completely rational.
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>>93459114
It started as such and then quickly spiraled
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>>93459029
He looks fine in the movie. And lay off on Jean , man. I didn't notice these flaws you paint her with before when I watched the movie. I'm calling bullshit on this whole thread
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>>93456663

I don't think anyone chooses to star in flops, knowing they're going to flop, unless the money is too good to turn down.
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>>93459221
I'm not even the same anon criticizing Jean kek
Apocalypse Cyke is just ugly
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>>93427963
It doesn't matter who is cast, X-men movies have never been good
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>>93459384
It's like he got his upper lip stung
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>>93459384
God, they wasted Marsden. I'm not even a Cykefag, but I'll always be pissed at his portrayal in the original films.
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>>93459400
Sophie is hot and I have a good feeling about this movie in general.

I think some lessons were learned from the results of Apocalypse.
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>>93459489
>get Marsden as Cyke
>underuse and then kill him because Wolverine is more popular
Fucking FOX, man
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>>93459535
>Sophie is hot
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>>93459221
>the whole thread is one guy

Are you serious?

Also Cyke is supposed to be pretty alpha/Chad-ish and they just keep casting the blandest twinks imaginable, plus AoA Scott is only 5'7 or so from memory and is ugly. You can argue that that's a stupid reason but if I'm staring at someone for 2 or more fucking hours I want them to have a face I can tolerate. At least James Marsden, while underutilised and somewhat forgettable, didn't have that problem.

also don't forget this >>93439281
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>>93459384
god he's fucking hideous
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>>93459536
They killed him because he had a bigger role on Superman Returns and couldn't spend much time at all on X-Men 3. Though he likely went with Singer/Superman in the first place on account of feeling slighted.
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>>93459536
Cyclops was used enough.

You don't make spend millions making a movie and then spend a huge focus on a character most people don't care about.

Of course, they DID do this with Mystique, but that was just because the actress was an "it girl" when they were making the past couple movies.
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>>93459824
Cyclops exists in every adaptation of X-Men because he's the iconic field leader though.
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>>93460154
He exists in the movies too. What's your point?
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>>93459428
>>93459617
Stop being gay. Stop it.
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>>93460241
different anon but you said people don't care about Cyke and comic fans do. Plus those movies had the chance to make the generation whose first introduction to the X Men was those movies care about him and they decided not to.

t. I'm 18 and grew up with those movies and didn't see the animated series until last year
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>>93460300
>wanting to look at ugly dudes instead of 10/10 beefcake

sounds like you're scared of something, anon
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>>93460320
kek. He is a teenager, let him grow in the role
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>>93427963
Game of thrones that's why
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>>93460305
Why would it be the movie people's job to make people like Cyclops? They had a history that says "people like Wolverine".

Part of the problem with Marvel Comics (if you read comics) today is that they are constantly trying to force characters into popularity by demanding that people like the characters that corporate wants to be the most popular.
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>>93427963
>why did they cast ______ for this role?
do any of you guys know what a casting couch is? Google it, will answer every single question you ever had as to why a certain girl got a certain role.
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>>93460412
The problem with Cyclops is the reverse though.

>Cyclops is already popular
>treat Cyclops like shit in the movie and kill him off so nobody likes him
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>>93460368
That's no excuse. There are plenty of non-ugly 20+ actors who look young enough to play teens. They just fucked up.
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>>93460412
Dumb idiot.
Marvel and X-Men related media is always trying to put Cyclops down but he has always had a huge fanbase, even when Marvel actively tries to get people to dislike Cyclops.

So what you're describing most definitely doesn't apply to Cyclops, it's pretty much the reverse.
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>>93460426
That's just not true.

Nobody in their right mind is banking on people outside of internet chat rooms caring about Cyclops.
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>>93439121
>>93438464
It must suck to know that every day you're growing less attractive, less valuable, and that your time in the sun is ending.
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>>93439303
For the great god of Diversity!
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>>93460420
>implying a female would ever go through the casting couch to be in a Bryan Singer movie

He and his cohorts only indulge in barely legal little boys, you fool. There's been a lot of blind items about that.
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>>93459536
Best choice
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>>93459384
Origional Cyke was pretty good. They just wasted him in the script
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>>93461606
>Origional Cyke was pretty good

I don't think anyone has a problem with original Cyke casting, the real issue is that he was given nothing to work with and was shoved aside for muh sniktbub.
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>>93460520
Prior to the films, Cyclops was the 2nd most popular X-men character and the perennial boy scout character for Marvel. But I don't expect you to know that, you probably weren't born then.
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>>93460426
>>93460499
Not the same anon but, really?
Right now Cyclops seems just like a disposable character, I mean in comics they killed him in the most stupid and humiliating way possible and nobody did anything.
I've seen a lot more of fan outrage with the way in which DC treated Wally West for many years but with Scott not so much, at least FOX tried to make him into some kind of young protagonist of the last movie, even killed Havok to give Cyclops more relevance.
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>>93463275
There's not as much outrage because the pain has been so constant that it almost feels numb now.
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>>93427963
Her face is too small for her head.
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>>93428055

People prefer a face they recognize over quality. See the US 2016 presidential primaries.
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Because she's a recognizable brand-name actress you fucking dingus.

They want everyone to be going "lmao it's Sansa Snuuuuuh!"
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>>93463275
Where were you during Avengers vs X-men? Cyclops literally became a meme by just how horribly Marvel tried to vilify him. And there's so much more wrong going at Marvel, that its not even a matter of just Cyclops getting shat on, but a bigger problem in general.
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As soon as game of thrones finishes she'll vanish from hollywood.
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>>93432555
Shaliene looks good again though
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>>93463275
>and nobody did anything.
There's a good reason CYCLOPS DID NOTHING WRONG is a meme.

Because they did everything they can to make Cyclops out to be Ultimate Jackass Douchebag Hitler 2.0 to make him look bad but all it did was show how much everybody else was a jackass and that Cyclops ended being the guy who's doing the right thing even if it makes him out to be a villian. And there was a very, very vocal complaint about it from everyone. "Nothing did anything" my ass.
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>>93460320
Gay guy insulting someone for being gay, stay tuned, more at 11
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>>93463624
Again, really??? Outside of some niche sites and /co/ it seems like nobody cares, again with Wally even some nor miss were aware but with Scott at most is only "when the rights are going back?"
Most of the people does not even knows that he is dead (and even less how he died).
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>>93429281
I'd be alright with this.
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>>93463846
>Again, really???
Yes.

>Outside of [all the sites of people who still read / spend money on comics] and /co/ it seems like nobody cares
Yeah because Marvel chased them away.

You are confusing causation. It's
>Marvel does dumb shit to make people stop reading.
>Normies stop caring.
not
>Normies stop caring.
>Marvel does some shit and nobody notices.
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>>93429281
>In a better timeline, Jean Grey could have been Molly Quinn's star-making role
>But because we live in the worst timeline, FoX-Men is doomed to be propped up on the shoulders of stuck-up actresses who are only famous for being in other popular shit
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>>93432555
>>93463536
She isn't hideous but she looks more like girl next door like Dunst instead of supermodel material which is how MJ should be.
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>>93433528
Reminder that the casting for Sansa came down to Izzy Meikle-Small and Sophie Turner, and for some inconceivable reason the part went to Sophie.
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>>93447574
>But now that their characters are evolving we start noticing they never really had much range as actors
I actually think that's fairly realistic, fundamental personality changes rarely happen overnight. Though I wouldn't mind if the changes actually happened in these last two seasons.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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