How do you go from this...

I think America is still pretty hot.
Her fashion gets me hard in fact
Too bad she's gay.

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To THIS???

>>93405147
Fuck yu Gillen.

>>93405147
>>93405174

well you see, these are by two different writers and two different artists, and also different editors (not that that really matters at current Marvel), so theres very little to connect the two other than the character having the same name/basic appearance

>>93405147
>>93405174
One shitty writer is all you need.

>>93405174
Quinones gives her thunder thighs so his is a win in my book

>>93405174
>>93405147
They both look like trash to me.

>>93405147
y'know her thighs aren't actually that thick in OP's pic

>>93405174
>Becky with the goodhair
This is "Hulk hate Freddie Prince Jr" all over again.

>>93405174
>When Gillen looks like a sane writer in comparison

Both are garbage.

>>93405174
>"Need a little vivaporú for that burn?"
>Hand gesturing like a nigger

Good fucking lord, i hate chicanos

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>>93405147
>character has always had a trait, in this case bitchiness
>subsequent appearances under different writers have taken that trait and amplified it as their defining characteristic in lieu of actually bothering to characterize them
Nothing new here.

>>93405184
If it wasn't for him and shitty Wiccan shit, this >>93405174 wouldn't have happened.

>>93405290
The main difference here being that Booster is still a great character.

>>93405244
It's worse since it takes place in a WWII context in which Beyonce doesn't fit at all.

>>93405340
It was just a reaction image dumbfuck.

>>93405284
She's wtitten by a Nuyorican and behaves like one, not that Chicanos don't deserve your hate but expand your mind to hate more.

>>93405174
I still can't get over the fact that a huge comics publishing company allowed for such a fuckup in word balloon order.

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>>93405147
>Angry latina bitch that come from gay utopia created by the gay son of Scarlet Witch
For what fucking purpose?

>>93405424
Still kind of applicable for Booster though. Just replace bitchiness with oafishness.

>>93405174
WHo is this writer?Holy shit he didn't even tried to keep her in character

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>>93405174

>>93405174
wow that sure made me wince

>>93405163
female homosexuality is a social construct

You've still got a chance buddy. You and your absolute shit tier waifus.

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>>93405218
>One

This is how you make one bad writer look like a good one. Hire one even worse.

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>>93405174
Peggy compromising national security just so she can mouth off to the girl that kissed Steve before her. That's some basic bitch tier shit, Peggy. Get'cha game straight.

>>93405174
Just imagine, in 20 years shit writers will become the norm and this will eventually stop being considered complete shit to just be considered mediocre.

Just imagine...

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She was always an obnoxious bitch.

>>93410990
>calling someone else puta
>while dressed like that

Holy shit, this girl *has* to be a chicana.

>>93405163
Keep it a fantasy man. South Texas has put me in contact with a lot of girls like her. Only people worse than then can handle them. Real bad dudes with bad connections.

>>93410990
putx*

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>>93411249
I keep everything in a fantasy. It makes things less fantastic.
Also is there a particular name for that type of style? Or am just seeing style were it's a bunch of different ones?
Something about midriffs and flannel.

>>93405174
Every time I wonder if my writing is good enough to get published, I see shit like this and realize my writing is godlike in comparison.

Ms. America should have been limited to her appearance in Vengeance and that's it.

>>93411387
I thought you were talking about her personality. Flannel is literally the unintentional lesbian uniform. Midriff is a ghetto/slutty/sports thing that other groups appropriated. Flannel plus midriff is a single mom by her thirties.

>>93405147
This is good
>>93405174
>>93410990
wtf is dis shit

If there are any marvel writers/editors reading this, please hear me out

chavez, kamala, riri, lunella team up when?

>>93405174
women ruin everything, film at 11

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>>93411578
So what you're saying is fuck them in their 20s

>>93405174
Let's hope somewhere in the future there's going to be some kind of parody that either makes fun her specifically or of these wannabe progressive comics in general
Just imagine the salt

>>93410990
boy this guy really doesn't want to draw hands.

>>93411363
underrated

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>>93405174

Can someone who actually reads this shit explain why America has patterned all of her mannerisms off of a (what seems to be largely inaccurate) perception of latino culture and acts like she's got such a huge chip on her shoulder regarding men when she herself is, IIRC, from an alternate reality feminist utopia where men and Latin America don't even exist?

>>93413481
Because that's the writers agenda.

>>93413481

Because the writer is a nuyorican

Correct me if I'm wrong, but America Chavez seems like she's always on the verge of a temper tantrum that would level a city block.

Everything I've read of this character makes me wonder why the hell she's a hero. In any other book she'd be a villain, since it seems like her only heroic motivation is to have a socially acceptable reason to beat people up.

>>93413481
her writer is a fat racist, sexist Latino lesbian who wrote one book that sold well so that makes her good enough to shit on comics, just remember MARVEL

>>93405379
It's a dramatic irony joke.

>>93413829
you can say the same thing about most of the nuheros from marvel
iron heart, who threw a sad when her teacher told her should could be anything
moon girl, who stated she wanted to destroy society

>>93405147
>America
>not Americx
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>93413829
>>93413942
To be fair, you can say the same thing about Elsa Bloodstone.

>>93414672
i dont see how Elsa bloodstone was a monster hunter not a bullshit gender swap

>>93415190
She has always been a bitch anon.

>>93405163
Female homosexuality is a meme. It developed in nomadic tribes where there would be 1 male to many women. Women would delegate tasks while to men were hunting or foraging, teach kids sex (fucking Hawaiians and Islanders were weird with a lot of stuff and I mean Millerite weird), assert dominance, and basically aim to be Alpha female in the eyes of their fellow sister wives.

Today the abuse and teaching sex survive and make dykes the horrible beings they are.

>>93414672
nobody on Nextwave is ever presented as being a serious hero who we should look to for inspiration.

>>93415229
yer with good cause her father was a asshole,
but iron heart and moon girl have no reason to be bitches other than my gender or my sexuality that no one cares about.
to compare a well rounded fun character with depth with fuck me iron heart, a annoying brat with a "im a black girl" chip on her shoulder isn't really far

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>>93407546
Gabby Rivera.

In all fairness, America didn't have much of a character at all other than "America-themed sassy brown lesbian Latina". Gillen took a relatively blank slate and turned her into a complete shitshow, thanks to the power of some of the worst Wiccan wank imaginable.

Rivera just took Gillen's bad ideas and made them even dumber, which is a genuine accomplishment considering how bad Gillen's YA was.

>>93415426
I am amazed by how good Ewing managed to do something interesting with YA and America in Ultimates. I just hope Ultimate Cap tell that bitch to fuck off.

>>93415426
so is America he Mary Sue than?

>>93410990
I think a key difference here is that Ribera tries to morph her bitchiness to a likeable trait rather than a flaw.

>>93417324
No, her self-insert who is like 10 shades darker than she is in person. It's not even subtle that X'andria is supposed to be Gabby but better in every way and liked by the bitchy hero who is a bitch to basically everyone BUT her.

>>93417324
No, but Wiccan certainly was.

>>93415327
I don't even know what isn't a meme anymore at this point.

>>93415190
>not a bullshit gender swap
That's exactly what she is though. She's a gender swap of Ulysses Bloodstone.

>>93417837
This entire plane of existence is a meme perpetuated by God.

>>93413481
Because Marvel hired an author who's never had an interest on comic books in his own life write for them.

>>93405500
How do trans people work in her lesbian utopia?
Like does no one there identify as male?
If they do are they kicked out?

>>93405147
This is Gillens Young Avengers. She was sit there as well. Much like everyone in that book.

>>93405174
Is this an edit? What's going on with the lesbimorph's pelvis in that last panel? Also, Peggy obviously couldn't give birth without a cesarean section.

>>93405174
>becky
I now see why black people fight on sight when they get called nigger.
I get assblasted whenever I hear some black woman calling a white woman that so it must be like infinitely more infuriating

>>93405174
Look I hate the "raycisss" faggots but can we really act like if a white character said "What the fuck is Laqueesha doing here?" it wouldn't be a big fucking deal.

Calling a white woman Becky is about the same. "Hey interchangeable white chick."

>>93422168
my thoughts exactly.>>93422285

>>93412164
Fuck hands.. I hate hands.

>>93411626
go back to BC, joella.

>>93419224
>daughter
>gender swap

>>93413829
In other circumstance, it would be considered a flaw. In the current ongoing, this very much appears to not be the case.

>>93420589
>trans
>people
pick one