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What is the best and worse case scenario for Zootopia 2?
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A new threat that requires the police force to step back and find a new way to solve a crime that they're unfamiliar with and do not know how to handle.
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>>93377700

>best case scenario
made by Walt Disney Animation studios with same directors
BTFO's Donald Trump, causing massive butthurt on 4chan
>worst case scenario
made as a direct-to-DVD by DisneyToon
is centered around the romance between Judy and Nick
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>best
Disney creates yet another movie about urban Americans that resonates with the entire world
>worst
A movie about how oppressed preds are and how it's entirely the prey's fault
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>>93377700
>Best Case
It doesn't happen

>Worst Case
It happens

Sequels to animated films are cancer.
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Best: Rich Moore runs the sequel
Worst: Byron Howard runs the sequel
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>>93377700
Plants gain the ability to speak and reveal that they've been sentient for centuries. They claim they've been trying to communicate with the animals via pheromones and then movement but each time herbivore farmers noticed they either ignored it or took measures to stop it.

So the movie revolves around plants screaming for their rights, for all herbivores to eat only suppliments from rocks or bugs to survive, and for the extremely rich farmers who had been profiting off of them to be brought to justice.

The twist ends up being that this came about due to a carnivore super scientist. When this is revealed the tenuous society between animals crumbles, the third party of plantlife only making things worse. There is only one good Part to the ending: The rabbt and fox move to the wilderness, them and a select few surviving alongside friendly plants in true Disney friendship and magic fashion.
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>>93377816

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that way.I don't like indoctrinated people.

As a fan of talking animal media I loved the movie, but seeing how it made was quite unpleasant, like seeing bizarro versions of favorite characters.
btw. Is the documentary still online?

At this point I don't know if sequel is even a good idea, comfy is gone, and there will be always people asking "what could have been?"
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I'm not sure about best and worst case but I have an idea.
The movie would revolve around Judy and Nicks relationship, with Judy falling pregnant with Nicks kid. Inter-species kids would be considered taboo and they would have to escape the wrath of the city to a hidden society full of mixed animals. While they initially think of the idea as paradise, they find the conditions there are worse due to the mixed breeds losing all the greater qualities they once had. This means the society can hardly gather food or support infrastructure, resulting in rampant crime. The duo eventually find out the entire society is being manipulated and used by a breed of rats who wish to spread species mixing across the world so that all animals become weak and lose their best traits. This would result with the rats becoming the chosen animals to rule over the world. It's up to the duo to stop the dirty rats before they get their hands on Zootopia.
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>>93377700
Slightly off-topic: is there a reason Let It Go plays on the radio to this day, but radio stations never aired Try Everything? What happened there?
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>>93378807

Good question but answer is simple: money. Frozen merchandise is selling in billions, it's a terrible feelgood earworm that helps boost sales, meanwhile Try Everything is an okay, in-universe song sang by washed out pop star.
Have you noticed that radio still occasionally plays that Elton John's song about two lions fuck? Meanwhile last time I heard Try Everything was right before Oscars.
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>>93377700
>What is the best and worse case scenario for Zootopia 2?

Best Case, it ends up like Godfather 2 and you explore the past histories of Zootopia itself and it's characters, while also looking into the present.

Worst case, it ends up becoming Mulan 2 and the characters are turned into shitty versions of themselves, just for the sake of romance.
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>>93377700
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>Judy, now a detective, has to go deep cover in prison to get information that can save the city. Little does she know that Bellweather has b\recently been transferred to the same lock-up.

>Cue shower scene where Judy drops the soap.

I only want to know if I should watch it with my pants on or off...
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>>93379161
>Cue shower scene where Judy drops the soap
YER DEAD!
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Animated series about Nick and Judy's lives as police officers
>bunch of wacky side characters who're all well meaning but incompetent prey and small preds who're following in their footsteps and becoming zootopia police
>basically a furfag version of police academy
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>>93377763
>BTFO's Donald Trump, causing massive butthurt on 4chan
You've meant /pol/
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>>93379120

Best case, new creative team with fresh minds and respect for the old story and characters

Worst case; old creative team with who wants to retread old story ideas like that themepark for predators that nulify the message of the first movie.
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>>93379153
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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Best case: New characters, same setting. References to the first movie can be made, but yo don't need to see the first. For a sequel to be as good as the first, it'd have to be a morality play that takes chances, it's awkward for that to revolve around the same leads.

Worst case: Disney rom-com about race mixing.
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>>93379640
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2380049/

Leo the Lion. I think it's on Netflix right now.
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>>93377774
The Lion King 2 wasn't bad.
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>>93380691

Zootopia is modern Emperors New Groove, not Lion King.
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>>93379255
yes, 4chan.
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>>93377700
Best case: Something as good as the first one.
Worst case: Not as good as the first one and full of shipping bullshit
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>>93377816
>>93378393
I don't understand the distinction. Whats the difference between the two?
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>>93380837
The fact that it's Disney's B movie that beat it's A movie makes it Disney's new Lion King. The added irony of it beating their brown princess movie makes it even more so.
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javascript:quote('93380933');

Well, one is a furfag who's pinnancle of humour is beating the shit out of protagonist, and other is one of best Simpsons/Futurama creators who likes to troll fans.
(Byron directed Bolt and Tangled before, Moore directed Wreck it Ralph)
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>>93377763
>BTFO's Donald Trump
Man I don't even like Trump and I think that's just low hanging fruit. Disney's better than that.
that said, what would Drumpf's fursona be?
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>>93381025
Box Office wise Frozen is current Lion King.Shit id everywhere.

>>93381078
>>93380933
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>>93381136
But the movie sorta vindicated him. Trump was the lion mayor who was unfairly deposed for doing something harsh but necessary. Replaced by a scheming corrupt totalitarian.
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>>93381151
The movie came out in 2015 lad I really don't think they'd have lampooned him before he was elected. Plus Lionhearts mammal inclusion initiative doesn't align with what Trumps usually about. I really don't see any parallels between them or a reason to think there would be.
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>>93377763
>political bullshit is best case
>Romantic comedy is worst case
Never have I seen a taste so shit.
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>>93377700
Zootopia was made in such a way that any sequel after the first movie would feel like a forced cash crab that didn't need to exist. There were no loose ends to tie up or conflict to conclude at the end of the movie. Bellwhether was in jail, Nick and Judy became actual cops, everyone in zootopia is fine about the whole "preds" turning savage thing because turns out it was a plot by the (((ewes))).

>Best case scenario
They reuse the world of zootopia and have a totally new cast of characters telling a different and interesting story without reusing the same themes of corruption and racism that were part of the first movie

>Worst case scenario
Its a buddy cop movie, with the same themes as the last involving romance just because the fans overly shipped nick and judy

>Godly case scenario
Its a Sly Cooper/Zootopia cross over where nick and judy must try to catch the worlds greatest racoon thief
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>>93381306
>totally new cast of characters
Can you think of any sequel thats done this?
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>>93381136

Back in march 2016 we came up with Donald J. Trunk. An elephant.
Hillary Clinton has a canon fursona, it's a pig
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>>93381333
Movie wise, no.
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>>93377700
Most likely they'll have it so the babies are born either a bunny or a fox, but not a hybrid
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How would a fox-hybrid creature look like?
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>>93381554
Pretty cute
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>>93381333

Star Wars?

>>93381306

WiR and Frozen are getting sequels despite having closed stories. Id be fine with new protags and occasional cameos/running jokes where audience can't figure out if Nick and Judy are on undercover mission or really dating.

>Sly Cooper crossover
naw, the designs don't fit to each other, but Sly is getting a show, mite be cool.
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>>93381640
I disagree
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>>93377700
>best case scenario
They get together, no kids ()not biologically possible)
>worst case
OP's pic
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>>93377700
>Best
New story without racism parallels
Romance is kept to a minimum

>Worst
Retread of same story and themes
Romance is a major portion of the movie
Shakira/other celeb becomes major character

>Worse then worst
It becomes a musical
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>>93379661
>Disney rom-com about race mixing.
I'd loathe it if the movie was entirely about the romance, but I wouldn't mind seeing some progression with Nick and Judy's relationship.

Realistically they'll probably do something where Nick and Judy are brought in by the ZIA to help take down some international terrorist or something, and they'll reintroduce Jack Savage as their ZIA contact, and it'll play out like a standard "James Bond for kids" movie.
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>>93381333
Jurassic World?
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>>93381868
Oh god that would feel like the transitions from Cars to Cars 2. The first movie was nice and had some good morals in it then the second movie went into some weird international terrorist, super spy bs for seemingly no reasons.
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>>93377700
>Best case scenario
A prequel with dark themes like the first draft of Zootopia. We all know a mixed species society can't work without oppression.

>Worst case scenario
Redoing the same shit with even more furry fanservice.
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>>93381136
What else better than an orange orangutan.
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>>93381151
You know the end credits show him locked up in jail, right?
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>>93377700
Best: Interesting caper plot with the requisite twist villain being revealed halfway through so they have time to be fun. Nick and Judy's interest in each other comes to a fore but they're not sure how to deal with it. Things develop organically toward the finale, and then aftermath involves a bit of playful banter which establishes that while things have changed between them, then important fun stuff has mostly stayed the same. It leaves the audience wanting another movie.

Worst: Vapid romantic comedy with lots of awkwardness for laughs, stupid misunderstandings for drama, and a police plot that takes a back seat but is boring anyway. Has a really sappy wedding ending. Barring that, halfway through the movie and after a lot of audience-teasing, Nick or Judy reveals they are gay. The other ends up accepting this and at the end of the movie watches their partner walk out of the station with their new boy/girlfriend who was shoehorned into the plot earlier for no reason. Critics praise the film for being brave and progressive.
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>>93381999
Wait he went to Jail? (didnt stick after the credits)Well he can't be sentenced for anywhere near as long as bellwhether
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>>93379255
What's the difference?
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Here's how I envision it
> zootopia
> inner city
> Try Anything plays on a tv screen
> children on the street watch it through shop window
> breaking news: antagonist intro
> kids disperse
> follow one home, it's poor
> live thru its daily life
> no school, its summer or whatever
> deuturantagonist provocation
> risky behavior leads to discovery
> run away
> more poverty
> kid's ambition revealed
> we're sad, night-night
> news broadcast, plot development
> more poverty
> deuturantagonist being mean
> someone gets hurt due to previous discovery
> go to police
> introduce nick and Judy as second act begins
> cue typical song and dance for rest of movie
> end the movie with that wonderful sloth guy
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I just realized I want a Zootopia version of The Dark Knight
>The Jackel won, everything we worked for dies with Nick's reputation.
>They can not know what he did. Zootopia needs their Smug Knight. Sheriff, I killed those animals.
>Judy, you can't, you're not!
>I'm what ever Zootopia needs me to be. Call it in.
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>>93381840
>They get together, no kids (not biologically possible)
The next movie will have little to no action and is all about adoption. They fight over adopting a rabbit or a fox. Eventually they decide to adopt from an entirely different species and the movie ends with their happy multi-racial family taking a family photo.
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>>93382056
Yeah I just caught it last viewing. He's sitting on a cot, behind bars in a grey outfit. It's when you see whovoiced what animal. The ending interview with the lion throws you off, thinking he's been exonerated. But naw, they ousted him
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>>93377748
A rapist Hamster who targets extremely large females who don't realize someone hitched a ride on their pant legs UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE
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>>93381554
this, with with longer ears, different coloured fur and more powerful hindlegs
http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wiki/Predator_Rats
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>>93381980
byron, pls
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>>93378506
Let me guess what type of rat you are trying to picture here.
who is supposed to be the Aryan in the relationship? Nick or Judy
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Best: continues on what the first film was good at and focuses on character interaction and subtle details in body language, facial expression etc.

Worst: Seeing what a hit they have on their hands, Disney suits hijack the sequel to boast how "woke" they are and to lecture the world on morality.
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>>93382773
Byron has some good ideas, it just wouldn't make a good Disney movie. Or a movie about racism. It's just be a good movie that really highlights how weird it is when prey and predator live together like us.
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>>93384337
we already got psycho pass, making characters animals only made the whole thing more awkward.
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>>93384165
>that best case list
What, are they making LA Noire? None of it is bad, it's just odd that you would specifically call out those elements
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>>93384458
I think the plotting is a little wonky and the plotting a bit stock at times so for me it's the detailing that set this movie apart.
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>>93384615

good thing we dont have to worry about it, Zootopia is done, there are no signs of it returning in any form, we're back to Frozen wankery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tHWpKmQcnk
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Zootopia doesn't have a romance angle OR an annoying mascot character for very small kids.

How did they get away with it?
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>>93384752
all the characters are cute animals, and the movie was good
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>>93384752

it's not a princess movie (shippers gonna ship, though , it's fine)

they are ALL mascotts
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>>93384816
Moana retroactively made it a princess movie
>If you wear a dress, and you have an animal sidekick, your a princess
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>>93384862

>look, we're self aware!

yeah, thanks disney.. you are grasping at straws here.
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Anyone have that greentext of feral Nick raping Judy and force feeding her rabbit meat?
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>>93384944
wrong board, fella.
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>>93384944
I'd also like to see this. I want to masturbate to it.
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>>93384959
No it was definitely /co/, buddy.
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Imagine fucking up a movie SO hard that you completely rewrite the somewhat original story into a buddy-cop movie yet it still makes a billion dollars because it has cute animals in it.
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>>93385105

i dont have to imagine that. It happened. Usually previous versions are swept under the rug, in this case they spoiled it entirely.It sucks.
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>>93385105
I wouldn't say he fucked it up in the slightest.
The original setting was way more unique and interesting than the shining-diverse-city-on-the-hill that we got. It wasn't perfect, but that's what the creative process is about. It just wouldn't have made a good movie. Maybe as a comic like Blacksad or something, but as a film I don't think they could have done the idea justice.
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>>93385105
Original was heavy-handed "muh oppression" bullshit. fite mi
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>>93381333
Fox and The Hound
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>>93384816
That gazelle is uncomfortably sexy. I'm scared to watch this movie.
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>>93377763
i think you got bad and good mixed up
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>>93385318

everybody knows that, just one big accusation that whites are evil und racist (represented by prey, duh), no one is going to fite you.
The problem is it was made right under Disney's nose, a DYSTOPIA, made by DISNEY, how COOL is that?

Our only hope to erase this crap would be giant magnetic storm taking over the entire Earth.
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>>93385393
Don't worry, she's by far the biggest low point in the movie and looks sexy because the celebrity voicing it literally demanded that it look sexy.
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>>93385403
Things can have applicability without being an allegory, you know this, right?
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>>93385403
Zootopia is still a Dystopia though. It's just that it sucks for everyone and not just predators.
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>>93385393
>>93385434
She also isn't actually a character in the movie. She interacts with no one and speaks with no one. She has a single, badly-written monologue and affects nothing.
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>>93385393
eh, go for it.
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>>93385489
The animators should have honestly tried to sneak in some claw marks on those horns, if you know what I'm saying
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>>93385465
Honestly, this as well as the abysmal soundtrack keeps the movie from going over an 8. Not even the background music is passable. I can just see the team behind the movie finally hearing Shakira's song and just going "oooh no, oh no what is this? she fucked us!"
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>>93385434
>>93385465
The worst tragedy in the movie is when she assaults the city with her political opinions
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>>93381554
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>>93385448

when there's a scene with a boy receiving Yellow Star on his Bar Mitzva it stops being applicable.
It IS an Allegory.
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>>93377700
Idea: introduce birds, fish, amphibians, & reptiles to Zootopia. But because their culture is so vastly different from mammals (cold-blooded creatures don't parent), Zootopia struggles to hold up its mission of unity.

The argument is at what point do you tell people of a certain culture no, that's not right?
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>>93385647
What does being a different species have to do with culture?

The new Zelda has all the species living separately because, you know, everyone but the Gorons would catch fire if they lived in death mountain.
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>>93385647
Reptiles of Peace!
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>>93385713
I hate the I laughed
Reptiles are chill man
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How something this beautiful could come out of Disney is what amazes me the most.
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>>93385704
Fish don't think, Reptiles don't love, & Amphibians aren't very good listeners.
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>>93385826
in 10 years she'll look outdated, like chicken little.
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>>93385775
Of course they're chill.
They're cold-blooded.
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>>93385960
That's racist
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>>93385856
that looked dated at the time it was released
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>>93385647
crocodiles parent
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>>93385960
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>>93386077
They do? Color me impressed. And source please.
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>>93386201
it's cute in a strange way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvjDcbLtU5I
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>>93385647
>birds don't parent
I fucking hate you for being this stupid.
A goose in times of famine will fucking rip her breast open and have her goslings sustain themselves on her blood.
Read a fucking book.
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>>93386201
https://www.dkfindout.com/us/animals-and-nature/reptiles/crocodile-parents/

The easiest way to piss off a crocodile is to fuck with their babies. You hurt one of their young, one of the crocodile parents will tend to the young one while the other parent chases you the fuck down (you would be surprised how fast an enraged crocodile can move on land).
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>>93385647
>birds
Ever here of the Cuckoo? the one that the infamous word "cuck" comes from?
That is just *1* example of many type of parenting in birds
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>>93377763
It's Trump your new Hitler?
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>>93378807
cancer spreads fast and it's difficult to kill
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>>93379161
I want to see that sheep tanking a predator's gang knots
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>>93379230
that sounds nice for a tv show episodes
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>>93381306

Zootopia is the prequel for the future Nick and Judy adventures
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>>93377700

>best: more females, more fun in /trash
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>>93381025
Zootopia beated the Moana thing?
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>>93387001

at box office. yes.
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>>93386431
Birds aren't cold-blooded, ding dong.
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>>93386231
Damn, I knew crocodiles were my favorite reptile, but I never knew why!
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>>93377774
Underated.
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>>93387414
i dont mind sequels, i just lost faith it's going to be good.

just dont run them to the ground, 3 is an okay number, Pixar!
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>>93384382
Never made that connection.
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>>93377700
>best case scenario
pic related
>worse case scenario
pic related
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>>93377700
It gets added to Kingdom Hearts 3.

I'll let you be the judge on whether or not it's good.
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>>93381151
that was supposed to be x president during the whole cocaine thing going on with the movie
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>>93384752
>Zootopia doesn't have a romance angle
Oh boy...
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>>93385363
But that movie stop has the old cast, it just adds more characters.
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>>93377700
>Best
Lethal Weapon 2, complete with diplomatic immunity line.

>Worst
RACISM DEFEATED 4EVER. VOTE LIBERAL PARTY
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>>93377700
ITo be brutally honest, if it weren't for /co/ or other people saying the movie's plot out loud all the time, I wouldn't even remember it. Like something about racism the shakira sings or whatever, too busy thinking of ways to sexualize extras with fanart, this shit is like furry touhou.
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>>93377700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZy49dANBNc
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>>93390883
Oh right, Clawhauser and Bogo.
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>>93391214

THIS
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>>93382346
But is it rape if his dick isn't even big enough to get past the lips?
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>>93377700
Best case: A movie where Clawhauser copes with depression after his back injury lands him a desk job and he puts on weight.

Worst case: Gideon's journey of self discovery through therapy sessions and his passion for baking in a world that might reject him for being a sissy pie baking fox.
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>>93391843
It would probably be considered an attempted rape that due to inadequate penis.
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>>93379070
When Elton sings anything I know it's about 2 dudes. The movie version with a female vocalist, though, yes: 2 lions 'bout to make cubs.
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>>93381753
I hope they address all the townspeople Elsa's little snit killed.
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>>93377763
>>93379255
>>93381136
Back to el reddito >>>
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>>93381874

Dr. Henry Wu, one of the scientists in the first movie, was in Jurassic World.
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I want a sequel where 99% of the population goes Savage
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>>93393262
>goes Savage

BOI, /trash will love it!
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>>93393447
whut?
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>>93377700
You have to actively try to fuck up a cop movie. Just take any 80's Lethal Weapon plot and adapt that shit to a Fox and a Bunny with sexual tension.

The way they can really fuck it up is by adding some ham-fisted social message. Even though everyone like to say the first one about racism, it wasn't. It was mostly about general prejudice and self-realization and even those weren't used to club the audience.
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>>93381640
>fast
>clever
>omnivore
>good hearing
>speedy breeder
>good sense of smell
It's the perfect animal.
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>>93382164
>*Modern Family theme intensifies*
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>>93382645
>stick a rat head and tail on a wolf
>stick a rabbit head on a deer
>these people needed a PhD to do that
Well this is just depressing.
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>>93385523
>implying she doesn't dom those perverted fuckers
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>>93385856
Technically outdated maybe, but ugly CGI was ugly the day it was released. People only ever gave it a pass because it was "cool and new". What looks good now, will look good forever. Just look at the old Pixar movies.
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>>93385535
Is that not what all entertainers do these days?
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>>93393796
>Zootopia isn't about racism
This meme needs to end.
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>>93377774
This
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>>93393447
What does Binding of Isaac have to do with it?
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>>93377700
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>>93394660
sauce of that image?
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>>93377700
>What is the best
Judy and Nick are just friends.

>worse case scenario
Judy and Nick get together.
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>>93391464

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!
I cant wait for Zootopia to be popular!
Just imagine: shorts, comics, books, toys, plushies, merchandise!
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>>93394983

http://mr-dna.deviantart.com/art/Overlord-Bob-Usa-s-Encore-196071263
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>>93395033
I don't know how you did it, but it looks like you accidentally wrote your post backwards, friend.
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>>93395354
thanks
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