Post good animation from currently running shows

>>93374398
>American animation
>Good

OO IM LAFFIN

>>93374398
>The only good animation in SU was by a guest animator

It hurts

>>93374398

>dodges and spins out of the way, opening it's self to being knocked over and piked
>doesn't parry with the shield and slash

Lame.

>>93374398
So, pic not related?

>>93374398
Why do SU fegs always feel the need to shake their tiny dicks around /co

Keep your crap-show in tumblr where it belongs

>Post good animation from currently running shows
>404

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>>93374571
suMales think Steven Universe is the best show on tv right now unironically

>>93374398
The only good thing about this is that it's technically proficient. Good shape consistency, good motion, decent timing, good overlapping and follow through.

Otherwise, it's a boring static shock for an action, that composition is a fucking mess, Stevonnie is making a horrible :T face that is completely ill fitting for the situation, the palette is all over the place and doesn't tell you anything about the mood of the scene, and any cool training is immediately ruined when she does a goofy Yoshi run in midair.

So yes, this is technically "good animation", but that's strictly it.

come on stop bein salty i wanna see some nice gifs

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>Good animation
>Currently airing shows
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>>93374627
See>>93374578

>>93374483
You've been playing too much dark souls anon

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>>93374398
My favorite moment of the show

i think op means slightly above average than shit animation in currently running shows

>>93374627
What shows would you like us to post from? What cartoons currently airing do you think has stunning moments of animation?

Clarence, Uncle Grandpa, We Bare Bears, Star Vs., Penn Zero, Loud House, Spongebob, Fairly Oddparents, Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Two More Eggs, The Croods, Puss in Boots, Pickle and Peanut, Billy Dilley, Home, F is for Family?

Seriously, what are you expecting? All those shows might have serviceable animation and at least get the job done, but that's it. We don't practice any sakuga techniques here. The closest you'll get are guest animators once in a blue moon.

Animated shows were founded on the nature of a cheap, limited production with shit animation, and the skill level of artists who work in the TV industry has degraded every ten years since then.

You want consistent good animation from the States, you're gonna have to look towards movies, not TV.

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>>93374608
A decent chunk of it seems like it's false-flagging, because it's some of the lowest effort bait currently available. You don't have to put even a tiny bit of effort in and you'll reap some salt.

>>93375118
Fucking this, you can post a completely benign topic like "Hey guys what's a good cartoon to watch" and if your OP has an SU image in it the thread gets fucking flooded with people shitting the floor about SU. It practically seems like there's a dedicated group of shitposters that wait for anything remotely-SU related to get posted so they can call it shit. Inb4 SU fan, I'm not defending it for a second but holy shit it's surreal how much fucking assmad this show seems to cause.

>>93374659
What really makes Gumball's animation spectacular is that it manages to look good while being a complete clusterfuck of different elements and art styles. The staff of that show is talented as fuck.

>>93375206
i know! for people that hate su so much, they fucking love to talk about it. i just want to talk about cartoons without it devolving into this shit

>>93374659
Wait that was the first episode? They made a great impression then.

>>93374794
The problem with movies nowadays is that they are all 3D cg stuff. I would love to see another 2D animated movie made in America again.

>>93375247
3D has surpassed 2D, 2D is just a novelty now.

>>93375245
Sadly, it got worse after that. Literally one of the most visually impressive moment of the show.

>>93375118
>>93375206
>>93375231
Steven Universe is the only American cartoon right now with good animation

>inb4 muh heights

>>93375368
>Steven Universe is the only American cartoon right now with good animation
>>93374659
Proves you wrong

>>93375291
3D looks shit compared to 2D

>>93375411
That was like 5 or 6 years ago

>>93375445
And the only time SU got good animation was when a Japanese studio animated a couple of scenes so i dont see your point

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>>93375416
CG can look pretty fantastic when you put the money in. At least when it comes to monster and animal characters. You can also get a lot more acting done in less time than 2D, which is a bonus when working with tight deadlines.

>>93375411
>that
>good

>>93375465
>i dont see your point
There aren't cartoons with good animation right now

>>93375552
It's better than SU.

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Holy shit
i don't even like SU but this shit is hilarious, this place is full of over sensitive manchildrens

>>93374398
You just posted 4 best of the 15 whole seconds of good animation this show has.
And it was made by someone who doesn't even work in the show

>>93375502
Nick is a good fox.

>>93375502
Holy shit, you can see him breathing.

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>>93374414
Technically that's South Korean animation. We here in burgerland don't animate our own cartoons anymore.

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>>93375502
CGI takes a lot longer to make than 2D drawings.

>>93375652
Just noticed that too. Have to complement their attention to detail for even the minor things.

>>93374398
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>>93374608
>>93375118
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>>93375231
Oh boy! An anon who hates SU posts yet another annoying obvious bait thread intended to start more edgy SU hate/drama to get any mention of SU banned for good!

>>93375700
No it doesn't.

https://vimeo.com/43769992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTii0uCrKqI
Both of these took one month of work to do, but the top is definitely more elaborate.

>>93374398
While I can sorta appreciate SU's story line, the animation is a fucking joke 99% of the time,

>>93375700
CGI is generally more expensive, but that's because all of the technology and specialized technical experts you need. No art takes more man-hours to make than traditional animation.

>>93375747
>intended to start more edgy SU hate/drama to get any mention of SU banned for good!
so this is a good thing?

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>>93375838
>No art takes more man-hours to make than traditional animation.

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>>93375652
That's a normal thing in competent CG. CG looks like complete shit if it ever stands completely still, so the models need to constantly be moving slightly. Breathing is the easiest way to do it.

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>tfw too lazy and incompetent to learn traditional animation

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>>93376034

>No one pays for traditional animation anymore.

FTFY

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>>93376152
They still pay for it, but only if it's made in some third world shithole for pennies on the dollar.

>>93376339
It's obvious.
Unionise the animators in those third world shit holes.
Make the networks move their animators team until they run out of countries to exploit.

>>93375838
>what is stop motion

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>>93376369

>until they run out of countries to exploit.

You're funny anon.

>>93374398
>So weeb they went to studio trigger for a 3 minute fight scene

>>93376424
Try 3 seconds. And not even a full studio, just one guy.

He did more guest animation for a character crying than he did fighting.

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What do I win?

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>>93376471
Nothing because it got better

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>>93375368
Sorry that Clarence's guest animator episode was better than SU's.

>>93376494
Dragon Ball Super is vastly inferior to Tiger Mask W

>>93374483
Have sex

>>93375220
It's basically just because they know how to light and color-match

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>>93376471
>>93376494

Guest animator: ONE

>>93376594
>they used to know how to light and color-match
Fixed. They fucked up the colors and the shading after the second season. It looks like shit now.

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>>93376494
Yeah it went from shit to passable.

>wow a series of static shots with barely any animation, very impressive

>>93376606
lol

>>93374398
Most of what I've seen of SU is shit but that, while short, was pretty okay.

>>93374398
>Post good animation from currently running shows
>Picks Steven Universe

Funny and guaranteed bait.

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>>93374398
Remember that one well animated fight scene from that one amazing SU episode where Jasper and Pearl sparred against each other and then fucked afterwards and nobody cried or wandered off to do nothing with townies the entire time? I wish I did.

>>93376786
She phases through a fucking tree in the beginning

>>93375671
>>93374414
plus a Japanese Animator did some of the keyframes for that specific episode

>>93374398
Wasn't it found out that nearly every cinematic SU fight scene was just traced over from various anime scenes?

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>>93374398
>currently running shows

>>93376989
nope: you're thinking of one specific early "fight" (pearl sparring with a holo-pearl) was a blatant homage to a fight from Utena
everything else has been unique for the most part

>>93374571
I'll agree to stay in the containment threads as long as everyone else does

>>93377093
Damn it! You'll never leave now.

>>93375861
After you build the rig, moving it around is quicker than redrawing it.

But yeah, building 100 mouth shapes takes longer than drawing 100 mouth shapes.

>>93376786
Are all holographic trees or something?

>>93374794
Not to mention shows like Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad, Bunicula, Be Cool Scooby Doo (even if both are barely airing as it is), TTG, 90% of all anime... I could go on myself.

Face it, it's rare enough to get any form of good animation from any TV production. What you're asking for OP is something that can really only be found in commercials or in the occasional show like Samurai Jack. And even that's stretching it.

>>93374398
I despise this show a lot, but that was actually pretty good.

>>93377783
it was 3 seconds of good animation in an otherwise bland and boring pile of gender fluid shit

>>93377058
Pearl v Peridot robofight had an Inazuma kick, I don't know about tracing but there's a crap ton of strong anime references.

More Gumball examples

https://youtu.be/MmeAPpEoGAI
https://youtu.be/BjhuFNK3rJk
https://youtu.be/o5qeEA742Z4

>>93377954
None of these has good 2d animation

>>93376786
is that the tree from shawshank redemption at the end?

>>93378019
OP didn't specify 2D.

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>>93378102
Crap that was the wrong one.

>>93378021
Oh shit now that you mention it, it does look like that scene, little block wall and everything

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>>93378112
Are you kidding me? What is this shit

>>93374398
Why does Sugar keep pushing this Stevonnie bullshit? It's always looked hideous.

>>93376577
With that low frame rate, no thank you.

>>93378112
Dude this is just reshaping and moving.
A good 2d animation would have its every frame well crafted.

>>93378195
because she wants to.

>>93375907
Does that also explain slight tit jiggle or are they just pervs?

>>93377854
>there's a crap ton of strong anime references.

It's almost like the show is staffed by a bunch of inveterate weebs.

>>93378112
Are you joking?

>>93378218
which SU doesn't have
REKT

>>93378223
garbage

>>93378019
OP never asked for specific type of animation.

>>93375411
That's not even American dumb shit

>>93375747
>Reddit: The Post

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>>93375700
If you cound Render time, but in terms of Man Hours, nah.

>>93376768
>There's a timeline where SU looks like this

>>93375416
Nostalgiafag

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Guest animators really are the only way anything gets done.

>>93376786
Environmental issues aside, this moves very nicely

>>93379485
What episode

>>93379873
Beyond the Grotto

>>93375671
Pretty sure 'Muricans still storyboard them.

>>93376494
But the scene you posted was just a static background frame with a shaky camera and some moving water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f5JI1LFvN8

I would, but I would get banned ^:)

>>93374398
>just because it has some more moviments the animation is automatically good
Kys.

>>93374794
All of those shows have had excellent animation moments though. Especially Uncle Grandpa, Billy Dilley, Spongebob, Clarence, and Steven Universe. There are legit great examples but I don't have them saved.

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>Post good animation from currently running shows
>115 posts, 28 files

>>93375502
God-tier. You can see his entire body working. He's breathing, ears wiggling, nose is moving, etc. This is how a good CGI character make. It proves CGI can be just as great as 2-D.

>>93380337
>Clarence
>good animation

>>93376768
Jesus thats pretty good fanimation

>>93380362
CGI is better than 2D

>>93380331
That's what good animation is mate.

>>93380363
You'd be surprised. There was few times I thought things looked really cool. Like the Stormy special or Chad and the Marathon.

>>93376577
I'm pretty sure that was a description of sex.

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>>93380426
Those moments looked "good" for you because the regular animation is trash. It was not good.

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>>93374398
>That's why /co/ considers good animation
>meanwhile in Japan

>>93374398
hahahahahaha
hhahahahahahahaha!

>>93380482
>It's trash

No, it's not. It's just as decent as any other show on CN sans Gumball and Uncle Grandpa. It's perfectly serviceable but not shit in any way.

>>93380492
Japan's is just flashing and fighting. There's no class to half of Japan's stuff. I always felt there were more interesting stories produced here.

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>>93380565
Not the media's fault you're ignorant.
Anime is far more experimental and diverse than cartoons

Is Justice League action any good? It's only available in potato quality around here.

>>93380583
The west didn't get it's evangelion yet.

>>93380492
That is trash too

>>93380583
>using a movie as a example
Really?

>>93380583
Yeah but where's the pizzazz? There's no fun or nuance here. It's something that could be done better in live action. I like my cartoons to stand out, do something that only the medium could do. Anime never had that for me. It needs variety, because anime are either all stupid pocket monster randumb humor or super edgy and bloody experimental films and shit. Boring.

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>>93380683
>using a movie
fine here's tv

>>93380703
Ok, this is good

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>>93380693
Anon, while I disagree with your stance whether it should be live action or not, I'd suggest you try Tatami Galaxy or any of Yuasa Masaaki's works.

His stuff oozes style and personality. It's some of my favorite animation.

>>93380866
That's a little more interesting. I feel soul here. It's got an atmosphere different than the rest.

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>>93380896
I'm just gonna post some more of his stuff. This is Ping Pong the Animation. I can't post the webm because co is being shit.

And Tatami Galaxy is probably my favorite anime. Tl;dr it's about an under achieving college student who reflects on how he fucked up his first few years of school. Each episode is an alternate reality where he fucked up differently.

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>>93380982
This is from Kemonozume. It's like Romeo and Juliet with exorcists.

If /co/ just accepted anime was better and focused on pushing for higher standards here that'd be swell.
Enjoy Summercamp Island faggots.

>>93381037
>If /co/ just accepted anime was better and focused on pushing for higher standards here that'd be swell.

Even if the entirety of /co/ pushed for higher standards /co/ isn't the fucking target/money audience for the shit they watch! Just like /a/ isn't the target for anime (most Japanese creators don't give a shit about western audiences as a whole.)

Neither board is ultimately relevant on a feedback level to their industry, /a/ being slightly less so than /co/ because at least /co/ can brag that some of their creators have poked their heads in. However, even this is irreverent because western cartoons are made for children, and will continue to be made for children until the whole fucking industry collapses, there will be no evangellion effect, fuck we've even watched Evangellion, and western audiences don't give a shit. Disney rules the market and Disney knows they can just target children and the adults WILL follow, even the pathetic childless otaku will follow and waifu their shit and pay up their cash. No point in trying to target fucking otaku and losing the much vaster child/parent market.

>>93379448
i think that over sensitive adult child expects too much from SU writing

>>93380565
>I always felt there were more interesting stories produced here.

Like?

>>93380639
Iron Giant?

Or do you mean purely animation, like Thief and the Cobbler?

>>93380639
Steven Universe will be the west's Eva

>>93381347
Both of those are cult movies that got followings well after they came out

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Good episode!

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>>93374483
>parrying a spear charge

>>93380362
2D animation has been surpassed by 3D now.

>>93374653
Not him but In real life you would fuck use your goddamn shield. You're opening yourself with that retarded little hollywood spin.

Of course this ain't real life though so who cares

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>>93380492
pfffff
you call that good
pic related is from the early 90's and it's miles better

>>93374398
There was no weight in that final strike. Looked floaty and strange. Like she gently tapped the pearlbot than deliver a mighty swing

>>93374398
Why is it so slow and floaty

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>>93381734
the gif is slowed down for no reason, I think op might be a fucking faggot

>>93381748
Can someone at least post the original then?

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>>93381442
>pearlbot gently floating back after bouncing off the shield
wtf

>>93380703
Is that Soul Eater? I never got that far. Didn't know Tsubaki could fight (why is she using a kodachi? iirc she was one of those ninja sickle-chains).

>>93381734
She can float. It's a power of Stevens

>>93381772
How else will Stevonie have the chance to do that BADASS autistic spin? >:3

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>>93380595
It's great. Have a mega link.
www.mega.nz/#F!hkFSATiI!aQpgkb54tEcaiznh_0bUDw

>>93375220
>Gumball's animation spectacular is that it manages to look good while being a complete clusterfuck of different elements and art styles
Yeah no. Just look at these >>93377954
>the first one has no animation
>the second one has good CGI but the 2D looks bad
>last one has good CGI and pretty much no 2D animation
Gumball is nothing but CGI. The staff sucks at 2D animation

>>93381422
The episode was bad

>>93380343
That's what you get on a shitposting community

>>93375652
I just came.

>>93375502
Jesus Christ, when Disney Animation is on-point, they're untouchable.

Younger me used to think that action scenes = good animation. Thank god I can actually appreciate stuff like this now.

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>>93378244
It's good animation practice and sexy at the same time.

I mean, one of the biggest issues with Western animation is that the really talented people pretty much never work together. You have companies whose only purpose is CGI, and they do god-tier CGI work, but unless you're working on a movie or similar big-budget project, you'll never see any collaboration.

>US animation is cheap outsourced stuff
>Japan animation is good but not allowed on this site
When can another fucking continent get into animation? I want an alternative to western toons and anime, but nobody is putting the effort in

>>93384554
France man

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>>93384554
The french have done well and seem to be gaining momentum.

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One thing that disney/pixar does or wants is that they emphasize characters and character motivation

I"m just gonna repeat what my teacher said.
Look at the diference between how these characters move, act and are design

Ratatouille
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQHK_G3hH8

So in this scene. Everything is completely design. Pay attention to the negative and positive shapes and how it guides the eye.

Throughout the whole scene, the animation is reserved. They're all going for the golden poses to sell the story. When Linguini holds remy out above the river, you're only feeling tension because of the context of the scene and accompanied music. The actual scene itself isnt animation intensive. More simple but clear poses. Linguini may some to move a lot but his key pose is generaly the same. Throughout his rant, he goes from pose a-b-c and then stays in A. He may move a lot but he the animatator is very reserved to both stay in those story telling poses and let the audience see the eyes. Even when linguini is shock by his revlation about Remy, the extreme poses are still very clear.

A Clever trick. You dont have to animate everything. when Linguini knocks the jar over. you don't see him actually go into the river. saving time, money and effort. Just a simple splash and the Story moves on, making sure the scene is going at a steady pace.

1 out of whatever. gonna keep going until i type out his lecture

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>>93384734

In this scene here and next, you can see how beautifully these shot is design. How Linguini is hunched over and looking at Remy and how the nose of Remy points back. Not only is it the pose but also the layout and color, guiding you're eyes on where to look.

Overall is a very simple but very clear in its excution

Next up. how to train your dragons.

>>93385014
>Next up. how to train your dragons.
Pretty radical shift in topic to be honest.

>>93380693
mate that's major bullshit. animation isn't just cartoony movement and imposible angles.

Jin Roh had GOAT athmosphere you couldn't get in live actio n

>>93384644
what show is this?

>>93385212
>you couldn't get in live action
Ok, weeb

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>>93385014
Had to record footage because i didnt have a copy of dragons on hand
https://files.catbox.moe/kd79jt.mp4

So similar scene.
So when hiccup is on his desk we see how messy and cluttered his room is to emphasize the point that he is a busy kid, between Toothless and dragon school.

However the clutter makes is hard to read the characters and the dark lighting makes it hard to see the characters. Along with the fact that there is quite a bit of extra moment. It helps sell the character but makes it hard to focus on where our attention should be. ANd if wee cant see the characters face and eyes, we lose attachment to the character..

So alot of times we're sacrifacing visual clarity for motion.
Its a design choice of the movie though, they wanted a very tactile feeling, hiccup feels alot of his surronding. A big contrast to the previous pixar scene. While these characters are more realistic because all those movements help sell the character is becomes a question of how much is too much movement before it becomes visually distracting.

Next up is Tangled

>>93385251
Dofus

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>>93385251
Dofus, a kind of prequel to Wakfu.

That was from the show, here's a bit from the movie.

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>>93374398

>Not even looking at Pearlbot as she slashes her

>>93380737
this looks nice, sauce?

>>93384734
>>93385014
>>93385349
I understand the concepts you are talking about but I don't really see them present in the example you gave. 3D animation didn't really get a hand of athmosphere and set design until very recently. Ratatouille and HTTYD don't really shine for it.

question: do you only analize disney or you observe other pieces of animation?

>>93374414
didn't some anime director do some of the animation for this episode?

>>93385308
>calling someone a weeb while discussing one of the least weeb japanese animations out there
>because it's not muh cartoon style like some sort of western weeb

fucking hypocrite

>>93385349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sst1GK_wDCo

So if you compare this to ratatioule and dragons. you can see a huge style difference. in Tangled everything is push to the extremes. Very simple poses, shillouttes, clear lighting. characters are in light, everything not import is in the dark. The eyes are centered on the chracters and dont move around lot. everything is very clear and simple to read. Alot of A to B poses. they dont move around alot compared to Dragons.

WHen eugene freaks out. even that is reserved. Eyes are clear to read. there is no B pose, so eugene stays in A through the whole scene and the animation very simple. When Rapunzel tells him to don freak out. She goes into the next pose and stays. Back to eugene. He stills stays on the pose and then finally breaks out into other pose, A to B.

The choices made is on how much and how limited they move. While it is animated is all very design. It all about clarity. whlie not as realistic in movement like Dragons. it still doesnt take away form the emotional appeal. Throughout the whole clip. you never lose sight of the eyes. So the pose and the lighting ensures the audience you never break contact with the face and eyes comapred to Dragons.

>>93382247
I bet Diana's happy she can murder something in a pg cartoon.

I've always found myself more attracted to the idea of animating action scenes, but do you think it'd be better to work on more subtle subdued animation.

>>93385649
Ah no. im just a student taking an online course. I thought the lecture on animation and movement might have been relative here. so i decide to write down what my teacher said..

I'm still learning how to implement all these things and i'm re watching movies to my animation. But all these notes were from lectures that i recorded.

I went to Ianimate and my teacher was Tal Sharzman . He recently finsihed up cars 3 and is working on Incredibles 2

he also did Piper
https://vimeo.com/192224626

>>93375411
Gumball isn't American

>>93379485
Even with some decent animation AT rarely looks good, the style just doesn't work well enough
The guest eps are usually cool though, aside from that shit one with the cardboard cutouts

>>93385781

What is this?

>>93380583
Am I a pleb if I didn't understand this movie?

>>93379996
storyboard =/= animation

>>93385966
It's about the corrosive effects of authoritarianism on the soul.

>>93378112
>tweening
next

>>93385963
OK KO

>>93385387
that scene where she walk forward in worms eye view gives me an animation boner.

>>93385670
I was defending live action, idiot

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>>93376768
>fan made animation is better then animation from show it's based on

>>93387307
>anime kino every week
CalArts on suicide watch!

>>93385781
OK KO takes the trigger approach to animation. Where the quality of animation is inconsistent so they can focus on really focusing on animating the action well and the weaker animation is used for comedic purposes. What the people making OK KO haven't got down is smoothly transitioning between the two. I like that they're trying something fresh though.

>>93376768
>In another world, America has animation production similar to Japan and SU has scenes like this during finale fights
Feels bad.

>>93376401
>thinking African countries would draw passable animations
After they run out of Asian studios they're FUCKED

>>93381688
https://sakugabooru.com/post?tags=flip_flappers

Educate yourself my man

>>93387951
>OK KO takes the trigger approach to animation
>trigger approach
There isn't a "trigger approach" you newfag. It's the Japanese approach.

>>93389178
>that
>good

>>93389282
Not to the extreme Trigger takes it. Plus you can see the Trigger influence in the first episode with how they introduce the characters.

>>93389342
You may be too ignorant to understand, but yes it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICsTArm_qk

It died too soon

So whats the deal with american animation? Why is it so bad? I mean even Japan that pays literal peanuts and has clearly low budget anime has better animation than most American shows.

>>93389859
Because America simply doesn't take cartoons as seriously as Japan.
Japanese recognize animation is a medium, not a genre, and can be enjoyed by anyone of any age.
America still sees cartoons as for kids outside of exceptions like South Park/Family guy

>>93374398
now compare it to the tmnt 87 intro

>>93389629

Is that mother fucking Dee Snider? That's amazing.

>>93390015
Motorcity was a gem

>>93389629
More Duke. Best character in the show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIPCPAdr72c
>Eat stretch limo baby!

>>93389859
Cal Arts, unions, and big studios taking good animators.

>>93389859
Because American animators get paid for doing the bare minimum while nips get paid for their output.

>>93389859
Well for starters, they mostly rely on cheap flash outsourced to either Canada or Malaysia. And if not that, then they're stiffing their Korean/Japanese contractors.

>>93390779
Shit

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>>93374414

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>>93374659

>>93380737
Ugh, the timing is all sorts of fucked up here.

>>93380866
Tatami galaxy was so fucking good.

Easily the best anime Ive ever seen.

>>93389178
I don't understand
What exactly do you want to prove ?
I can show you the storyboard about the anime I posted and it wouldn't prove anything.

>>93393291
Nice

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>>93380565
>Japan's is just flashing and fighting. There's no class to half of Japan's stuff. I always felt there were more interesting stories produced here.

Except Japan understands that animation doesn't just have to be kids shows or dick jokes. Seriously, adult animation is one of the most childish fucking things ever, and I can only think of Venture Bros as an animated show for adults that actually tells a story, rather than using the show as nothing more than a glorified clown car releasing half a dozen sex jokes in the span of three minutes. It's also why it's one of the best adult cartoons ever made. I'm not snobby, Superjail is one of my favourite cartoons. I just know there's nothing classy about the show.

>>93381688
source?

>>93380693
>It's something that could be done better in live action.

For fifty times the cost.

>>93380130

Hey this guy just blew you the fuck out.

>>93393582
What about Bojack Horseman

>>93393689
Haven't watched it yet, been meaning to because it looks like one man's existential trainwreck in slightly abnormal world. I love that shit.

https://youtu.be/ocfkyQEqpYs

>>93380693
Stop watching Shounen

There is good anime out there. You just have to wade through a lot of meh and garbage to find it

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/co/ needs more shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSuAhbtIFg&t=128s

>>93381004
This reminds me of some of the Animatrix.

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>>93393819
>king Gainer
My /m/an

>>93385574
I wouldn't call OPM's animation particularly innovative or noteworthy, but it definitely does a competent job of conveying the character of the series, which are what really set it apart.

>>93393689
Bojack is pretty much just another adult comedy with formulaic feels moments

>>93394204
I was gonna say "/co/ needs more /m/ shows" but yeah, I'm glad there's people here with taste.

>>93393640
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory

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>>93381688
anon, they wanted good animation, not good NTR

>>93393819
to bad the current state of american television doesn't allow for it. Soccer moms killed saturday morning cartoons, and the toyetic formula shows had long since died. So there not a lot of options for cartoons to make a return on their "investment"

And given the west mindset for animation being either kiddie shit or immature, low-brow "adult" sitcoms. There is an extreme lack of diversity of cartoons.

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>>93394290
Gato did nothing wrong.
Also Cima best girl

>>93394290
>that gif
just beautiful

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>>93394330
If she's best girl, how come she has only (literally) shitty scat doujins then?
her gelgoog is severely underrated though

>>93393133
it's a shame that this movie turned out a mess

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>>93394330
good taste

>>93394363
I love her Gelgoog, but I prefer the Gerbera Tetra.I mean look at those shoulders.

>>93394290
'So? I guess he trips out? or so-
LIBERTY STANDS FOR FREEDOM

>>93378195
Kids need to be mentally ill for the sake of MUH PROGRESS!

>>93393362
There are multiple pages, dip

>>93393582
It is kind of a shame that the few good animated shows have to emulate anime in order to be taken seriously. Teen Titans, Boondocks, Avatar, new Castlevania coming out.

I do wish we got more B:TAS or Venture Bros type shows. I'd like to see an actual western take on stuff rather than, "W-we look like anime! That means we're serious, right?!". Something that does have a story to tell without falling back on basic geometric shapes for designs. Like, I think the worst aspects of stuff like Over The Garden Wall, Infinity Train, and Gravity Falls are the character designs.

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>>93374398

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>>93374571
Because it makes you angry

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>>93395220
People just don't like toon-like styles. Just look at how people prefer the original anime-like Ben 10 over the toon-like Ben 10 omniverse. Omniverse is the best Ben 10 series yet a lot of people hate it just because the art. Same with Transformers Animated. The best TF show out there and people don't taken it seriously for its art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCS5MeBMX78

>>93378679
But they both suck

>>93381730

>Being a weeb waifufags calls shit "floaty"

You have no excuse Anime fights are the epitome of floaty is just that characters are so attractive and girls so hot you don't really care about it.

There is a big reason for it though since Japanese cannot generate such impact irl. Direction is all that matters Those DC movies have much more "punch" and there is probably lots of gooks involved in their creations.

>>93381422

She is so cute I want to rape her?

WTF I hate rapists now?

>>93397765
What

>>93393582
>Except Japan understands that animation doesn't just have to be kids shows or dick jokes.
Yeah it can also be moeblob or edgy gorefests for depressed 14yos

Do me a favor

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>>93374398
>The blank stare into empty space

>>93398719
>I don't actually watch anime but I'll give my opinion

>>93398925
Kek

>>93384554
>Not allowed on this site
You meant "on this board", right?

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>>93385670
What does "weeb" mean anymore?

>>93375502
Good, but still feels like a puppet.

CGI still has this certain weightlessness that hasn't been overcome yet.
But then it's still only a couple of decades old.

>>93381458
hahahaha

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>>93400358
*CLANG!*

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>>93400358
>>93400370
Stay mad, 2Dfags https://youtu.be/BCr7y4SLhck

>>93376528
MAAAGIIC MAAAAN!

>>93400370
>Dragon Ball Super looking like shit means all 2D animation looks like shit

>>93400409
Why would that make anyone mad?

>>93394301
>Soccer moms killed saturday morning cartoons
The jews don't stop doing things just because some goyim are crying

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>>93400370
>the band of the hawk died for this

>>93381442
What am I looking at, a VHS filter?

>>93394145
Well if I recall correctly, Masaaki worked a lot with Studio 4C who did do like 5 of the shorts from the Animatrix.

>>93374398

What anime is this lifted frame-for-frame from?

>>93400717
Yeah. A blog on tumblr takes scenes from the show and puts a VHS filter on it

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>post good animation from current cartoons
>only like 2-3 "decent" examples
Western animation is dead

>>93374414
"Why are you so hard to talk to? I'm polite. Each time I approach you, I say konichiwa. I always ask you about your favorite anime before talking about my waifu. Youre usually really shy (which is cute imo) but I hate that I have to be the one to constantly engage in conversations with you, and how you usually act disinterested because I'm a Christian. Yes, I get that it's awkward because of things like the Crusades but I don't hold it against them. Why can't the himes just realize that I respect Japanese culture and that I really want to be part of it. I'm willing to marry a Japanese woman, adopt Japanese children and live in Japan for the rest of my life. Hell, I'm even learning the language by watching undubbed anime. Plus, I cook a mean bowl of rice (for those who don't know, Japanese eat a lot of rice, I do too my Mom says that I act like a Japanese person because of all the rice I eat and the shit I watch"

>>93401798
I eat rice with my beef.

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the way the hammer moves just gives it a nice weight.

>>93401835
the only thing in the show that has weight.

>>93401848
i dunno man, amethyst seems pretty heavy.

>>93401880
She's fat, but her fat is made of light.
so she's not heavy she's light

>>93401835
This looks awful

>>93401835

God that looks like shit.

>>93374398
look its 90% of the budget in the entire show in one single gif

>>93395704
I think they don't take it serious due to Mr.Big Chin over there.

>>93374414
both american and japanese animation are made in korea now
funny enough american animation died because animators wanted too much money and benefits while japanese animators got tired of living at the train station and eating dogfood

>>93374675
2/10 tipical weeaboo crap

>>93375502
im completely sure zootopia animators watched 90s comedians for inspirtion for nick

>>93376339
hey
hey jasper
this is worse than when family guys animators worked on steven universe

>>93387264
>fan show made by fan hires fans to work on it
>it gets progressively worse
>fan animator fan quits because she couldnt make their fan ship canon fan ship
>there are fans that can animate like this out there
>nope, gotta look for fan talent at the bottom of the barrel

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>>93400273
>doesn't know the whole point of weeaboo is that it has no meaning.

>>93384149
The movies are popular and sorta shitty but the work is always top notch

Also have old 2D Disney

https://vimeo.com/22856764

>>93378112
is that star trying to kill rick sanches?

>>93401835
You're joking right? If you wanted to show the hammer head's weight when it bends the shaft you'd have the bend linger for a bit. Not immediately spring back to straight.

>>93380492
>good animation
>character doesnt fucking move
>anime

>>93380583
no way in hell thats not rotoscoped

>>93402502
Anime is a cancer, goddamn

>>93402424
we asked the animator of that fight scene on /sug/ once and she said that she doesn´t work in the US, and CN only lets people living there to work in official stuff.
However, she was hired by rebeccas boyfriend, Ian JQ to do a short for OK KO. But those shorts are promotion material, so thats the best shes gonna get.

>>93401835
god sugars designs are hideous

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>come into this thread to see gifs of cool animation in modern cartoons
>turns into a SU hate thread,fights about how anime is better than cartoons and how modern animation is shit

>>93402606
There isn't cool animation in modern cartoons

>>93402573
find out where she lives and outsource all animation there
we dont go looking for some filipino girlboys at some college campus, why are we searching for animators there when there is a country full of boipussi and another full of people who can animate like that?

>>93381344
The Cleveland Show. Mr. Pickles, G.I. Joe, you know, the classics

>>93402616
then why are you in /co/

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>>93402606
Post some then

>>93402695
Because I love cartoons. The lack of good animation in modern cartoons isn't my fault.

>>93380693
Check out Ghibli movies, Evangelion, FLCL, Redline
I don't really get into American v Japanese animation debates but it's actually pretty obvious to me that Japan has a much greater variety of styles and genres that are tackled in the medium

>>93394330
None of the main characters of Stardust Memory did anything wrong

Well maybe Nina

>>93401835
This is actually a lot worse than I remember it being, Jesus fuck

>>93393324
Are you literally me? It's my favorite series period. I also watched it when I was the same age as Watashi going through similar problems. Shit was real.

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>>93401835
>Basic A-to-B poses with even timing and inbetweens
>Flat acting
>No weight to throwing the spear, spinning the hammer for the first time, or catching the hammer outside of it having some rubber-y staff

Nah.

>>93395704
TF Animated is the only Transformers work that I cared about even remotely, and it always shock me that it's regarded as one of the least popular Transformers show ever. How is this even possible?

>>93385387
how the fuck are you going to masturbate if even doors have eyes

>>93403179
Here's another good fight scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nQLiq3PkG8

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>>93403282
Because it looks "ugly" and "childish". If a cartoon has a cartoonish style people don't take it seriously. That is why people prefer TF Prime. Prime is a "dark" and "serious" show for mature "people" and Animated is for dumb little kids

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQXpd1GIV1Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDiN9w_Min4

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>>93401848
Half the characters have weight

>>93402695
This is the gayest response I've seen here in a while

>Why are you on /co/ if you don't eat shit!!

>>93402231
>funny enough american animation died because animators wanted too much money

We need to bring back the invisible hand for animation

>>93403654
>>93403654
Which is weird, because the animation style lends extremely well to fast paced action scenes and interesting character designs. The story deviated a lot from previous entries, which mean that the characters were all original fresh takes on their original part counterparts. Transformers always had the problem of throwing the audience into a team that already work extremely well together, that had been fighting the same war they've fought since forever ago. How could you tell any interesting stories with this kind of a premise? People always complain about the human characters, but that's the only element in the typical Transformers show that could introduce new elements that are developed through the show. Not to mention, the animation style also forced the toys design to be much more creative and varied, which was also a plus. TF Animated was different in this regard, and it worked, but people hated it anyway. So strange.

>>93403869
Manchildren like to pretend that their kids show isn't for kids and it's actually some super hidden gem TV show that should be respected by the average populace. That's how bronys and SUfags came to rise because their shows are "secretly very adult"

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The Venture Bros is pretty well animated, but it takes 3 years to produce a season
https://youtu.be/ctlC0x2eeww

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>>93402254
Don't you like WRESLTING???

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>>93403869
Ben 10 Omniverse has the same problem. Derrick style works great in motion but people hate it because it looks "ugly". A lot of Ben 10 fans prefer the piece of shit that was Alien Force just because it was a "dark and mature" show. Look at this. It looks fucking great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1XuuzPCBdA

>>93400826
Why...?

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>>93385574
I don't remember him spinning around Saitama by his cape.

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>>93404128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1zHalthf30

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>>93404128
>>93404377
Yeah Omniverse is severely underrated. At least it's generally well regarded on /co/