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Would she have been better?

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If Ewing was writting Iron Man, and had Tony take Toni as his protege, would it have been better than Riri?

Cute Asian Waifu with purple hair, daughter of the man who saved Stark's life. In her 20s.

vs

Random girl who "happens" to look exactly like Bendis' daughter. 14 and already better than everybody.

The answer is yes. Toni would've been much better.
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>>93363728
>wasting Ewing on Iron Man
N-no thanks. We got that one mini out of him and that was enough.
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I don't like Riri, but I hate the fetishization of female asians in comic books, so no.
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>>93363778
Can you fucking kill yourself please?
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>>93363728
>asian girl with dyed hair

when will this meme end?
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>>93363756
>Implying he's not being wasted writting POD & Squirel Girl
Boi...
>>93363778
Wha- She's literal cute. She has purple hair and a jumpy personality. Whereas ReeRee is an annoying twat, Toni is actually a swell person. Stop seeing threats where there are none.
>>93363820
Or that. Just kys>>93363778faggot.
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>>93363841
She looks good with it! Shut up!
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>>93363820
>>93363848

No, it's not my fault asian girls are super fucking ugly.
Even uglier then black people.

Comics have been doing this forever because beta white guys need passive girls, even if they are as ugly as sin.
Especially when they have dumb as fuck hair.
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>>93363881
You do know this is a comic book character? Who gives a fuck about the real world? Jesus fuck, you faggots derail threads for the pettiest of reasons.
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Doom, Rhodes, and Potts should be the only ones allowed to be Ironman, other than Tony Stark.
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>>93363841

Probably never. Asians are really homogenous as a race and teenage "I want to be unique" is not getting bred out our species anytime soon.
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>>93363728

Dude. she is better RIGHT NOW.
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>>93363881
>Comics have been doing this forever because beta white guys need passive girls, even if they are as ugly as sin.

Fucking kek this is so true. The only non-Asian guys I see with Asian chicks are always numale white dudes who dont have the spine to deal with a regular woman.

Even then Asian women are notorious gold diggers so the dudes get their financials fucked.
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>>93363980
Yeah, but we're stuck with Ree "15 and already better than Stark" Ree. I really hope Bendis just keeps writting hisshitty OC and Ewing takes over as the Iron Man writer.

Imagine if he brings Toni with him and she proves more popular to the point where ReeRee is written out. Top KEK.
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>>93364024
>stuck with
Just don't read her book? Spectacular Spider-man and Secret Empire are the only books I've read where she's appeared and so far that's amounted to a one page cameo and a small handful of panels.
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>>93364057
Eh, that's not the point. Bendis is doing the protege story with his shitty OC whereas a Tony/Toni tutorship with an actually alive Tony would've been better. And now they can't even try it cause of ReeRee.
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MIND IF I HIJACK THIS THREAD

INVINCIBLE IRONMAN STORYTIME #008
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>>93364602
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>>93364627
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>>93364651
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>>93364666
>when people actually support your dreams but that's not enough so you have to force opposition out of people to validate the oppression from white people
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>>93364684
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>>93364699
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>>93363848
>>Implying he's not being wasted writting POD & Squirel Girl
So much truth.
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>>93363881
12 year old edgy beta faggot playing tough guy detected.
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>>93364712
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>>93364742
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
I have no words.
How do people approve this?
What the fuck?
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>>93364767
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>>93364712
Why does Fury look like a baby?
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>>93364797

>>93364791
it's bendis.
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>>93364602
Wait, is that the Armored Adventures suit?
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>>93364823
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>>93364844
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>>93364742
Why the fuck is she asking what the armor she made can do? Did she make this armor? Did VR Tony just give or upgrade her shit suit?

I want Lila so bad, just replace her with Lila. I don't even need an explanation. Just switch them out next issue.
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>>93364844
>>Lady Doc Ock

Oh...I guess here's the jobber for this issue.
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>>93364868
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>>93364887
This is LITERALLY just mile's spider zap power. Jesus Mary and Joseph Bendis are you really this creatively bankrupt
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>>93364904
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>>93363728
How about Tony Stark?
I mean right now he's an suit wearing AI he's piloting while in a coma.
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>>93364922
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>>93364904
UGH
UGH
UGGGGGGGH
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So what's the main reason this Mary Sue-but-she's-black is the replacement for my main nigga Tony?
I know it's that cuck Bendis but why?
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>>93364942
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>>93364966
and that's pretty much it. don't you guys LOVE riri yet?
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>>93364966
if this Mary Sue somehow beats Doom I will fly to Marvel HQ and beat the ever loving shit out of Bendis
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>>93364985
It's funny, I actually hate her a little bit more than I did before.
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>>93364797
>literally just said "you're one of the good ones"
>to a black character
is she supposed to sound like a stupid horrible cunt? because bravo
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>>93364791
This lower an already really low bar.
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>>93364948
Bendis has a black step-daughter so he wrote her into the comic. Also, Miles 2.0: Girl Ed
>>93364998
I'll pay your ticket anon.
>>93365026
Same.
>>93364985
YAAAASSS QUEEEEEN SLAAAAY
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>>93364966
that jab about mainstream media being "fake news" is kind of ironic coming from bendis. Because the MSM IS fake news but he probably thinks only "le evil bad guys" would think that.
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>>93364873
She was given the armor.
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>>93364828
the symbol in the middle is the kinda same but besides that they aren't much alike besides both being iron armors
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>>93365332
I guess it was the symbol combined with slim & trim form that must've caught my attention.
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
Holy shit, this is bad
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>>93363728

No, your mission the point entirely you stupid faggot.

>iron """"MAN""""

you stupid motherfucker
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
So instead of facing real adversity she must manufacture her own. Is Bendis giving us a subtle incite to her real personality? Does she crave adversity? Was she the one who arranged the shootout that killed her stepfather and best friend all so she could feel any emotion at all?
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>>93365520

missing* the point entirely
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>>93363778
You misunderstand. Asian women aren't fetishised, they're objectively more attractive than other women.
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>>93365705
You should post this in the Invincible thread.
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684

Bendis you fucking hack, that's not how you write a compelling black female who wants to make something of her self.

Cannot believe I've tried defending this shit.
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>>93366019
It's funny because this is suppose to be a big inspiration for black young women everywhere but riri was only successful because she's literally a genius, not because she worked hard.
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>>93366019
I've already preestablished that Marvel, with Power Man as the SOLE EXCEPTION to this rule, can't make a black character that isn't just forced diversity.
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>>93365520
>>93365612
Jesus fuck anon, are you genuinely retarded? f course I only want to read about Tony. I'm just saying that if they wanted him to have a protege, Toni would've been better than Ree-Ree AKA Bendis' Wife's Child.
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>>93365705
asians are generally fuck ugly
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>>93363728
Well Ewing would have been writing it so yes.
And even if Ewing still decided to write about Riri instead of Toni it still would have been better.
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>>93364651
lol why are you not oppressing me? can't you see I am a girl AND black? what is this confidence you are trying to give me?
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>>93363728
To answer your question though, it'd probably be a different series. Right now, Ewing is writing Toni as someone who DOESN'T want to be like Tony Stark.

Which is the whole point Marvel wants of this new volume of Invincible Iron Man, as >>93364684 makes it clear.
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>>93363728
>Cute Asian Waifu
There's your problem. You only care about waifus and not actual, genuine good characters. Not trying to say that Riri is a better character than Toni (I've not read enough with either character to have an opinion), but if all you care about is this waifu bullshit then you've already failed.
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
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>>93365705
>Asian Men are the only one with actual taste
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>>93364942
Good to see she is working on her Warhammer 40k Tau Battlesuit jetpack.
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
Not even 5 pages in and I already want to kill myself, congratulations bendis.
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>>93366973
They grew up with Asian women around.
I'm sure they have their reasons why they chose different.
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>>93363728
maybe
/co/ would still bitch about it since shes a lesbian
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>>93363728
>Cute Asian Waifu with purple hair
>Random girl who "happens" to look exactly like Bendis' daughter
Well that's not a bias description at all
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>>93365929
They're really having a field day with the Anissa and Kregg things.
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>>93369160
Nigga, it's Miles "Venom Blast" Morales all over again. Can't wait for Bendis to get a dog so he could replace Lockjaw with another of his shitty OC.
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Ewing isn't anywhere near as good a writer as /co/ seems to think.
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>>93363841
When asians in real life stop doing it.
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>>93363728
I think any pre-established character would've been better than Bendis shoving another OC who happens to resemble his adopted kids in our faces.
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>the book is still called Iron Man
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>>93370229
>no one even calls her Ironheart, nor does she introduce herself as Ironheart to people
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>>93364807
They killed off the real Nick Fury and now this is Nick Fury jr. here for the sake of movie synergy.
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>>93367134
Jesus christ what's with Marvel stealing Tau shit all the time? First it was Venom: Space Knight and now this.
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>>93366441
As with all races, there's a huge variety. I think asians might be cheating a tad because the koreans seem to be really into plastic surgery.
I'd guess if you found one ugly mother fucker of one race someone could find you someone roughly equivalent of another.
But back to the topic at hand, you'd think there would be asian equivalents of iron man with the crazy robotics Japan tends to get into. Korea has their own craziness with companies like Samsung I suppose. China at the moment I think is mostly just playing catchup but some suspect they're close to bridging the gap, admittedly mostly through stealing ideas.
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>>93363728
yes, it would have been WAY better.
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>>93363728
>I don't like blacks and want my "pure" asian waifu instead.

Just say it you fucking faggot.
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>>93371355
Not everyone is as racist as you, anon.
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>>93364602
looks like Wendy in the background
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>>93371426
>because that is totally not the real reason why this thread exist.
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>>93364922
A 616 is what Bendis used in the Ultimate Universe, c'mon man. Do something new
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
The fucking shit? She's actually MAD that the teacher is relatively supportive of her ambitions? And the reason she took Iron Man/Tony Stark as inspiration was because said teacher randomly gave her a goal to shoot for? I know her name is Riri, but that's fucking retarded.
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>>93364602
where are her boobs?
I'm pretty sure most pubescent girls have those
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>>93364868
>>93364887
>>93364904

Wait, Doc Oco is a woman now too?
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
She really lives up to her name.
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>>93363728
People that should have replaced Iron Man that would have been better than Riri fucking Williams.

> Lila Rhodes
Lila is beat for beat almost Riri. Prodigy inventor etc. she would've been at least acquainted with the Iron family

> James Rhodes
There's precedent for him already being Iron Man. He already had a well established fan base. Killing him in Civil War was pointless and stupid. "Muh MCU synergy!"

> Toni Ho
Toni is my personal pick for who Iron Man should've been. She is way better written than Riri and has more convincing fleshed out arcs.

> Pepper Pots
Name one woman who has a longer and more established relationship with Tony. I'll wait. She's worn armor before and still does.

> Tony Stark A.I.
Would've probably been the worst pick but it could work in a solo. It would have potential for some good stories.

> Zeke Stane, Simon Steele, Joey Cosmatos
This would have fit with the whole Iron Man is a reformed villain we've seen in Infamous Iron-Man and would work better than using Doom imho. It would also be an opportunity for someone to revamp the suit in a bulky more interesting way.

> Arno Stark
We haven't heard anything about Arno since the start of ANAD. It would've been a good time to reintroduce a character that's been in the making for fucking years.

With all these choices we got fucking Riri. You know why? Because Bendis wanted a self insert and a creator owned charecter he'd make that IP money off of. At first I thought he just wanted to catch lightening in bottle twice after Miles took off, but no this guy is a fucking loser. This Bendis run of Iron-Man is so infuriating.
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>>93374204
Boobs are against the law
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>>93370541
Fury Sr. is still alive. He's just stuck on the moon.
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>>93372840
Yeah, if he was going to re-use that then he should have called it a 1610.
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Eh, after reading this I don't hate it. It's not great but it's not terrible. And I always like Sharon.

Toni is 100x better, for sure.
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>>93363778
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>>93366283
>who is black panther
>who is storm
>who is monica rambeau
>who is misty knight
>who is falcon
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>>93374691
I'm hoping that Marvel is saving Arno for 2020
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>>93377741
>girl fetishist

Don't know what to say.
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>>93377979
Storm was on the New X-men who were basically Marvel's first All-New All-Different reboot where they threw out the old team for a bunch of ethnically diverse foreigners, Monica was current Carol decades before current Carol, and Falcon was once literally the token black guy on the Avengers (he quit when he realized that's why Gyrich let him be on the team)
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>>93374332
Second Doc Ock, from the 90's.
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>>93374691
Pepper should become Rescue again, go to California to round up her e order teammates and start up a new west coast avengers.
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>>93363728
I like Riri because she upsets more faggets
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>>93378158
Then you must love America Chavez also.
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>>93378167
I love Captain Marvel even more
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>>93365705
>Cursory glance of chart
>Black Women prefer Black Men
Yeah I can see that.
>Most Other Women prefer White Men
Not what I would have guessed but not illogical considering how many hunky white guys (Most of them named Chris) appear in modern pop culture.
>Most Men prefer Asian Women
Yeah I can see that.
>Except for Asian Men who prefer Latino Women
Huh. Now that one just one came out of left field for me.
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>>93363778
Could we just have Ewing write about Riri instead of Bendis? That way everybody wins. Even Bendis, who gets the prestige of creating a progressive black female Iron Man while everybody else gets to a enjoy a well written comic book compliments of Al "God's Gift to Marvel" Ewing.
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>>93378841
Therein lies the problem, Anon. What chance is Bendis letting go of his young legacy character to another writer for a solo.

It's possible, but it's the least likely.
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>>93378841
As long as Riri is still getting published by ANY author, we all lose.
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>>93378865
Nah, wouldn't go that far. We've yet to reach the point where the character isn't salvagable.

Yes, not even that trainwreck above.
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>>93374332
It literally said the SECOND Doc Ock. So no, idiot.
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>>93363848
He's also writing Sunspot and Cannonball. A well-written Team Supreme is never a waste.
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>>93363728
Probably, but I'm mostly sure that a vast part of it comes from Ewing more than her. If they just traded characters but still had Bendis doing IM and Ewing on USA, we'd probably have exact opposite threads about wanting Riri over Toni.
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>>93366973
That's a cute snek, anon.
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>>93363881
Yeah man, Jubilee is so fucking passive.
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>>93374450
>>93374332
>>93373426
Wait? Why is this origins bad? I mean she is kid and she wanted to be like her heroes.
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>>93379946
She's demanding to be looked down on. When this does not occur, instead of thinking deeply about this or changing or having it effect her in any meaningful way, she pouts until she's given an excuse to invent fake persecution in her mind and use that as motivation.

It's moronic and fails to actually give the character conflict or establish her young self as childish OR intelligent. It just makes her look kinda stupid in an alien way for that age.
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why the fuck isn't pepper potts the female iron man i don't geet it
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>>93363728
None of them are good candidates for Tony's protégé
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>>93379990
>It just makes her look kinda stupid in an alien way for that age.

It is that the point? But HEY! I join in the /co/ hate and shut up.
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>>93363728
>asian character
>her superpower is building a knockoff version of something famous
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>>93378026
I have a human fetish.
I want to fuck other humans real bad.
I can't get off to anything but other humans.
Please help me.
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>>93377741

>girl fetishist

...what the fuck does that even mean?
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>>93374691
> Pepper Pots
>Name one woman who has a longer and more established relationship with Tony. I'll wait. She's worn armor before and still does.
Bethan Cabe is his true waifu and has alredy uses the armor. I wouldnt want her replacing tony but neither pepper should.

> Zeke Stane, Simon Steele, Joey Cosmatos
These are good

> Arno Stark
He should be back i agree, but not as iron man.
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>>93378803
Why wouldn't you have guessed that White men are most popular? What's the alternative?
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>>93364887
yeah, fuck iron man. Qualifying himself with "man".
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>>93364651
>>93364666
>>93364684
>re-used panels
>artificial difficulty
>bendispeak
>shit character motivation
>genius =/= hard work

is beding playing a 4d chess and making we hate black women?
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So you're telling me that they had the perfect replacement for Iron Man that would fill the female quota and then they went ahead and made a new character anyway?
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>>93382021
Bendis doesn't get that creator money for his OC if they use Lila. The only reason Riri exists is because Bendis is a lazy fuck.
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>>93380050
How is looking like a fucking moron in a way that doesn't make sense for a child, a genius, or even a child-genius "the point?" Where do you get off acting like the disdain for the writing is irrational when you can't even form a sentence using proper grammar?
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