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How does a show with such middling-to-subpar writing, cliche plots, abundance of shit jokes, unremarkable animation, and flat characters manage to be the highest rated show on Nick and even nab a theatrical movie release in 2020?

Simple. It had zero competition. Modern Spongebob is fuckin bullshit, but it still gets insane ratings and is viewed as "the standard" for Nick. All Loud House had to do was beat that dead show in the ratings just ONCE and it found itself on the fast track to longevity and network favoritism. It's like pitting a kid against a paraplegic old man in a race.

Chris Savino merely had to make a show with JUST enough visual difference from the myriad of noodle-armed bullshit modern toons, have a super-relatable family-oriented premise, and the novelty of a show with 11 main characters.

Harvey Beaks, Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners, Even Fairly Odd Parents - all dead shows.

A fuckin B- show got the ratings and network treatment of an A+ smash hit.

GG, Chris Savino
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Actually, it hit because it's the first family friendly cartoon after a major clusterfuck of autistic ones.
Also shows that people don't want complicated shit, even simple is fun.
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People want to fuck the characters
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>>93360999
Plus there's a shitload of pandering to race, LGBT, & now literal retards.
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>>93361063
Well that goes into what i'm sayin'. It doesn't have any of these inflammatory elements that toons like Adventure Time have. It's not some CalArts circle-jerk.

It doesn't really do anything new and the writing is so play-it-safe, but in 2017 with all these hippie-dippie toons, it was better by default
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>>93361155
Yeah, I'm startin' to see it falling on that slippery slope.

They were walkin' on egg shells by showing Clyde's dads and trying to portray homosexuals in as casual a manner as possible.

But then they go and make one of the main character bi out of nowhere it and almost comes off as disingenuous, especially since the character in question has had the least screen time and development of the bunch - almost felt like a last saving grace for her character, or lack thereof.

"Fuck it, just make her bi, I guess"
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For the record, I don't hate Loud House, its a decent show with nice music and a cool comic strip aesthetic, but damn does it have some 2008-level writing. The voice acting is less-than-remarkable, too. It's serviceable, but I ain't gettin' no chuckles from these deliveries.
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>>93360999
>How does a show with such middling-to-subpar writing, cliche plots, abundance of shit jokes, unremarkable animation, and flat characters manage to be the highest rated show on Nick and even nab a theatrical movie release in 2020?
simple!
it's the appeal of such a show. It's a down to earth show in a time where everything hast to be magical or weird and crazy.
It's just a boy with sisters in a city. The same reason people liked Hey Arnold. It's normal relatable. it gives you the feeling of being young again. Only Lisa sucks in this equation - get it?.
Simply this>>93361063
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>>93361258
>tfw your waifu would pick a girl over you
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Harvey Beaks didn't even get a chance.
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>>93361258
fuck off this was a great ending. And it just gives the possibilities for the writing team to make new stories
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>>93361702
"It's so fucking basic, its genius!"
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>>93361830
They can make approximately one new story about Luna pursuing her lady friend, then they'll kick in to play-it-safe mode and treat the relationship as lukewarm as possible. And if they do anymore stories with this token lesbian, it'll be about how she moves away to live with her Mexican family, effectively writing her off the show.
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>>93360999
maybe its because its a show with kid protagonists about family that is 100% comedy, so kids can relate and enjoy it at the same time.
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>>93361828
I mean, it was trash anyway
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>>93362008
hmm, maybe 50% comedy, 50% insipid shit
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>>93362034
its a kid's show at the end of the day, anon. kids don't share your same adult taste in humor. you need to step back from your monitor and realize that every now and then that's what cartoons are.
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>>93361258
>>93362738
Here we go again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dURKi492QE
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Pedophiles.
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>>93360999
It's got memetic incest on it so the jews make it look popular.
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>>93360999
Mainly because the kids who watch this show likely live in a house with a ton of siblings. Boy identify with Lincoln while girls do with the sisters.
This show's premise is very relatable for some people.
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The show is successful because you grow attached to the characters. Their limited exposure and basic archetypes are enough to grab your attention so that when they do get an episode centered around them that you feel satisfied as your lesser character finally is getting their time in the spotlight. Simplicity is often the best way to establish the relationships between characters
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>>93361258
Two points on Bi Luna.

First, the episode isn't ultimately about her being Bi. It's about her being too nervous and lacking self-confidence to even put herself out there that she was going down a "What If?" path. The fact she's Bi is just a casual extra that again isn't focussed on as such because it's apparent that her family knows who Sam is so this isn't a dramatic In-Universe reveal. Especially as they didn't try to hype it up beforehand or even after like some other more desperate for brownie points shows, comics, and games are.

Secondly, from her design, background, to even a couple of passing casual lines, most just accepted that she was most likely to be Bi anyway. It would have felt far more out of nowhere if it was Lori, Leni, or Lincoln's younger sisters.
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>>93360999
Loud House has plenty of competition, but just look at them. They're all obsessed with being quirky and weird visually. Even when it comes to shows I adore, such as Clarence, it's plain to see how much more immediately appealing the visual aesthetics are in Loud House.

CN in particular needs to stop with the weightless line art BS and make cartoons that pop again.
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>>93361155
>>93361258
This. I don't see how people can be so blinded to see the obvious that's in front of their faces.

Nick and Chris Savino stamps characters no matter how empty or unimportant they are homo/les/bi/etc just to gain ratings and receive praiseworthiness for being "diverse" or having "depth", "personality", and "character".

Luna's lack of focused episodes and little screen time will forever hurt her because of the episode, L is for Love. She'll be first remembered as the bisexual of the 11 Loud children, not for her individual characteristics.
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TLH is like a majestic wolf, while its competition is like those deformed little yapping dogs that mankind has bred into evolutionary dead ends and that remind you that there is no loving God.
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>>93360999
>Modern Spongebob is fuckin bullshit
Seasons 9 and 10 were pretty fuckin' great dude.

This isn't like seasons 5-8 where a good chunk of the season was shit or mediocre.
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>>93366036
But that said majestic wolf has some of its flaws.
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Kids want cliche plots, abundance of shit jokes, and flat characters
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It's a sensible chuckle cartoon.

Although I enjoy shitposting about it more than watching.
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>>93362738
>complains about reddit spacing
>In a post with reddit.
I think the reddit meme is the stupidest, most unfunny, most not-insulting thing I've seen lately. But if you're going to complain about it don't fucking do it your post.
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>Flat characters
They are one-dimensional characters, they are simple but not flat. Waifufags like to shit on other sisters.
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>>93366093

Yes, like much of the canine family it occassionaly mounts an illegitimate hole, but overall it is still vastly superior to the shit networks throw at us today. Sans this and Star Vs there really is nothing to watch.
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>>93360999
>he doesn't enjoy out of left field absurd'y shitty jokes mixed in with good ones and predictable regular kids show jokes
seriously though, the loud house has mastered the art of the anti-joke
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>>93366240
This is true. Jesus how did the standards dropped so hard?!
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>>93366475
same reason people that have watched more than 10 anime series start to think anime sucks now
the large majority of it has always been forgettable trash with a few highlights coming out of it and for some reason they assume every show was cowboy bebop or votoms
the last AT season might be good I guess, the writers all seem to have realized their shipping war was retarded and the show improved a lot after that finally ended
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>/co/ forgets that kids exist

it's simple and relatable enough for kids with just enough fart jokes to keep them happy. it's not popular on the internet, but it's popular with children, which is what matters the most to networks.
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>>93366522

Daily reminder that TLH is the most progressive cartoon currently airing.
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>>93361828
it still hurts... at least we're getting a finale
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>>93360999

Harvey Beaks should have been the new hotness. Why didn't kids like it? It was funny and good looking for a tv cartoon, and character design that were easy to remember. What else do kids now a days want?
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>>93366574

I don't think anything comes close to SU in that regard.

But in the end we're just wallowing in shit either way. The whole industry needs to be put to the torch and reinvented.
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>>93366677

SU has the "but they're aliens with no gender" excuse. TLH has an interracial gay couple and an episode about a bi character having a crush on a girl she liked. The most any other cartoon on tv has done is a background character being gay.
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>>93366731
the episode was gags about the kids finding a love letter without knowing the source or who it was addressed to
there was about 30s at the end about being gay...
also gay parents is really the only explanation for clyde
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>>93363866
I think it's the opposite and it's mostly desperately lonely people that project onto the characters. They see the dumb shit they do on the show and think "If my siblings didn't totally ignore me I'd do that stuff with them..."
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>>93366574
>>93366731
""""""Progressive""""""
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>>93360999
I like it because it's one of the few ,if only, sitcom type families that actually all seem to genuinely care about each other.
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>>93366868

This is the core of the show's value. It feels genuine on an emotional level.
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>>93360999
Maybe because it's a good SOL show? We don't get shows like loud House every often, but lore cartoons overshadows everything, so it's nice that shows like Loud House get the recognition it deserve.
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>>93360999
Because it pandered to /co/'s two biggest fetishes, pedphillia and incest. Next thread.
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LUAN THREAD
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>>93366841

Gay couples need to be flawless and straight couples are allowed to be trailor trash
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>>93367167

Mai comedy/guerilla warfare waifu.
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>>93364369
Great point man
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>>93367020
>We don't get shows like loud House every often, but lore cartoons overshadows everything

Pic related is a lore-driven cartoon everybody
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>>93367260
TTG overshadows stuff?
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>>93367260
The only thing TTG overshadows is CN's ratings.
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>>93367292
Not in terms of quality, but CN spams it as often as it does for a reason, anon
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>>93367329
That's the point, you can't say shows with worldbuilding and "muh feels" overshadow everything when the ones getting the most airtime are dumb, slappy comedies like SB, TTG and LH
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>>93367260
That guys statement should have been "On /co/, Lore is the thing that overshadows everything".

Except waifus. Waifus trump lore here. The main reason Gumball and Loud House even survived at all on /co/ can be put somewhat to Waifu's. The only reason most of /co/ started watching Wander over Yonder (too late) was because they saw a clip of Dominator swinging her hips during a musical number.

But I agree with the other guy ultimately. Shows like Avatar spoilt some people here and now they just can't appreciate a simple episodic comedy show now. There are folks here who will latch on to anything that even hints at an overarching murder mystery but call a comedy boring after a single episode.
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>>93367361
Clyde's dads were already in the show, Cletus. Stop huffing paint.
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>>93366841

>the gay couples have mental issues

doesn't sound so progressive to me :^)
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>>93367623

> it is the only time I see it not being absolutely atrocious in a cartoon

What you really mean is "i like this cartoon so it's okay but i dont like the other cartoon so its not okay there".
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>this thread
And people think /co/mblr actually exists
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>>93367663
Hell no dude, it is always awakward when their go out of their way with episodes like
>seeeee?! this character is gaaaaay his life is haaaaaard, seeeeeee?

the gay dads are just gay dads, there was never an episode about like, Loud sr saying
>no Linlcoln you can't play with clyde because of their kind!!!!!!

They're just gay
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>>93367623
Yes, Adam Sandler, fart jokes are always bad. There's nothing inherently funny about any body function except maybe sneezing, and that's mainly because it's an easy way to show a character isn't stealthy.
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>>93367716

>seeeee?! this character is gaaaaay his life is haaaaaard, seeeeeee?

that never really happens anymore. would you like to name a show?
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>>93367744
>Yes, Adam Sandler, fart jokes are always bad.
but that's just false equivalency
Adam Sandler jokes are too close to reality to be funny
Fart jokes in cartoon are often more exaggerated, like someone throwing a diaper and it exploding likea nuke of green clouds and making the rooftop fly away
I'm just happy to see a cartoon with fart jokes again, last one that aired was panty stocking
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>>93367663
On the scale of "how much of a blatant and embarrassing publicity stunt for brownie points it is to shove a gay character into the story for progressive points", with Richie in Static Shock being a 0 and "Bobby, you're gay" being a 10, Loud House ranks in around the 2 area.
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>>93367763
Not a cartoon
But the last time I see this happening was in that black mirror episode San Junipero, that shit scuked dick
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>>93367831

okay, so how do you tell the difference then? protip: i already told you the answer
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>>93367831
Eh. I'd say TLH is a 4-6.
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>>93367812
Fart jokes are immature as fuck and the show abuses them. Ok, we get it, Liliy shits herself and it smells bad, do something else now
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>>93368761
>are immature
it is a cartoon
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>>93368779
That doesn't exempt them and regardless, they still overuse them and it's gotten old. Bodily function jokes are amateur and just shitty shock humor, it gets old quickly
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>>93368788
>ad hom

And thanks for telling me you're retarded and have no argument.

Not even white by the way
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>>93368454
Haven't seen the Luna episode yet, but as far as the dads go I agree that it's about a 2 or 3. The dads are goofy and cartoonish like everyone else, and the episodes don't rely on them being gay. One of them could have easily been a woman as long as they kept the same personalities.

>>93368882
>That doesn't exempt them
It does though. It's a cartoon for children, and children are, by definition, immature.
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>>93362738
Loudfags are no better. First you were pedos, now you're Tumblr mixed with pedos, so the worst kind of shit that can be called "a fanbase". Both shows should die.
>>93367531
And this is the answer to OP's question. Not only on 4chan, the rest of the internet goes crazy drawing porn of the sisters plus a bunch of irrelevant background characters. That is the only appeal of that shit show.
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>>93368945
No child is exactly alike and now you're projecting. There are some children whom are very mature for their age and there are some children who aren't. You even have adults whom are immature, the majority of this site for example. But that still doesn't justify the overuse of shitty and bland shock humor
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>>93367812
>the fart jokes are bigger so they're funnier

This is why Family Guy has a fanbase, there are people who honestly think if you overblow a bad joke or drag it out then it's even better
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>>93369092
Faggots are over half of all new HIV infections, not junkies. And you have no real argument beyond "REEEE THE FAGGOTS SHOULD BE IN THE SHOW" You're the one pissed off that someone isn't accepting that a faggot is trying to push his sexuality into a show so he can influence children. Fuck off
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>>93367988
I would say it depends on how much you market it or if someone says a sentence that can be translated as "DID YOU KNOW I'M GAY?" in an unrelated conversation.

Despite the gay parents of the best friend and the Bi sister and that one kid with downs they had, they haven't gone swinging from the rafters saying you have to watch the show because they're in it ticking a box for you and that's all this character is. They aren't even acknowledged by any characters in the show, everyone just goes about their lives as normal.

Compare this to JK Rowling buckling down on retcons to her books at key publicity moments, or Bioware's mess in the latest Mass Effect where a character introduces themselves as Trans out of nowhere, or just like half of what Marvel have done with new takes on Legacy characters. There's a reason why people like Kamala compared to say Lady Thor or Iron Girl. She feels like a sincere attempt at a new character. The others exist only because they're "progressive".


There are obvious bits of pandering out there. But when you cry wolf at EVERYTHING that isn't a white straight male character, you are just as bad as the morons who cry foul at every white straight male character.
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>>93360999
>a theatrical movie release in 2020?
Need a cite on this OP
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>>93369332
Honestly, why would this bother you unless you actually wanted to have Male to Male sexual contact though? Or share a needle with your gay friends who you are unlikely to have based on you having a problem with them maybe having HIV in the first place?
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>>93368967
> the rest of the internet

Well you're at least the first "they only like it for the waifus" complainer who has admitted that people like the show outside of 4chan.
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>>93367639
No, Clyde has mental issues. Well, he goes to therapy, so interpret that as liberally as you want.
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>>93368945
>One of them could have easily been a woman as long as they kept the same personalities.

In certain countries, they actually do dub the thin white one as a woman. Apparently Saudia Arabia and Russia hates the gays but are all aboard the BLACKED train.
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>>93369707
http://deadline.com/2017/03/spongebob-loud-house-sherlock-gnomes-1202054433
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>>93367020
It's not good though.

I mean, I took a look to see what all the fuss was about, and it's terrible. It's not funny. Maybe it would have been if I were still nine years old, but I'm not.

I mean, it clearly gets good ratings with kids, and that's cool. I find it fucking weird when people call it a good show, though, because it's just low tier as hell in terms of writing. Stuff can be popular with kids and still great, like Dexter's Lab or the old PPG or TT. Or Gravity Falls, which, no matter how meh the ending was and how /co/ntrarian nu/co/ is willing to get about it, was great.
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>>93369707
>>93369893
In summary, they've waited years for a cartoon to get Spongebob's viewing numbers and now that they finally have one they will milk it for all it's worth.

I expect a spin-off with Ronnie-Anne within two years, and the Funko Pop tier merch within one. Series will become Zombie Loud House after the movie like all other big shows they've had.
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>>93369999
Your quads don't lie about that spinoff; that special was a backdoor pilot through and through. Most obvious merch will be kids' meal toys to promote the movie. As for how the show will be after the movie, I'd rather not think about it.
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>All this mental gymnastics over the appeal of a fucking kids show

Guys...kids one record has always loved stupid shit and it rarey has shit to do with quality. Fucking Teen Titans Go is popular but you don't see threads asking what's its appeal. TLH doesn't do anything unique nor is it executed particularly well its just shit you turn on to keep kids quiet hence why the show had no traction online and the only adults who gush about it are pedophiles drawing porn and fanfiction.
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>>93361828
Don't remind me
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>>93361828
Harvey Beaks had two seasons to become something. It was the leader in the Halloween specials last year and it still failed. Harvey Beaks had its chance, failed, and now it's leaving the network.
Get over it.
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>>93360999
Because you're still in 2000.
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>>93370091
This should have been the first post and closed the thread.
It is literally the TTG of Nick, except that Loud House is not as randumb or color-saturated as the former, but it is a kids show, without anything special. Average, at best. Media praises it because of the brownie points earned with the retard, the bi sister and the faggot dads.
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>>93370091
> porn and fanfiction

Can we please stop using this as a reason to explain why people like this show as if it doesn't apply to literally every other mass discussed cartoon on /co/ in the last 10 years?
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>>93361063
No it hit on a dying Network because everything they threw out the all was a fucking failure so its a relief that they finally found something to compete with the other networks despite the fact that its 7 years behind. Also the Loud House being popular on Nick does not mean its popular everyone else and is on everyone's mind. Why does the Loud House get higher ratings than every CN show? Because Nick has a higher audience share and this has been the case for years they only beat Nick ONCE back in 2012 and 2013 because the network had nothing to compete with since the Spongebob well had finally dried so you can't even say that TLH beating Spongebob is an accomplishment because TTG beat it three years ago already.
>>93370709
But the first is all those cartoons get massive amounts of discussion and fanfare everywhere else while the most active Loud House community is on /trash/. Not even tumblr is making a big splash about Luna being Bi
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>>93369759
>deflection

The point is that faggots spread cancer, literally
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Lincoln is a weak ass shota and nabbed GF's audience once that finale aired.
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>>93370947
>Not even tumblr is making a big splash about Luna being Bi

But they were. It was trending there for a while. People were hopping bandwagons making art of Luna and Sam and they don't even watch the show.
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>>93371424
>AIDS
>Cancer
>The same thing

Pick one nigger. And before you start saying that being a fag causes ass cancer: no. Anal sex causes ass cancer, and straights literally have more of that than fags just by sheer weight of numbers.
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>>93362009
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>>93370947
>Not even tumblr is making a big splash about Luna being Bi
But that's fucking wrong you retard
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>arguably most undeveloped of the loud siblings
>made bi/gay for no reason other than to push their agenda
I was actually starting to enjoy the show too. Not like there's much else to watch anymore.
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>>93370947
I would argue the biggest Loud House fan base is on Instagram as that's where they seem to put all the new episode previews and junk.
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>>93372218
People have been calling Luna being Bi since the Study Muffin episode.
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>>93360999
>Spongebob
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>>93360999
> They started out writing stories that only focused on Lincoln (of course)
> With season 2 they decided that they wanted to expand on the sisters a lot more, this came gradually
> The archetypes in the beginning were mostly because it would be easier to get to know the characters, since there are 11 main characters
> The episodes “Patching Things Up” and “Sleuth or Consequences” were based off of the writers’ (Mainly Sammie’s) real life childhood experiences
> “Family” is the one word that they can use to describe “The Loud House”
> They focused on writing stories focusing on the sisters so much, that Chris told them that they didn’t have enough Lincoln stories
> After writing “One Flu Over the Loud House”, they discovered that Leni is the nicest one
> Lisa loves hip hop and rap music
> Season 3 is going to focus on more serious and emotional topics
> There’s going to be an episode that focuses on Lisa and it expands on her character, and Lincoln will only have 2 lines
> There’s a possibility that there will be episodes without Lincoln
> And finally my favorite quote from the whole thing: “We turned a show about a boy with 10 sisters into a show about a big family”

I must be worried for upcoming s3...?
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>>93372784
>no mention of clyde
goooooooooooooood.
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>>93372941
fuck Clyde's faggot ass parents.
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>>93360999
its always easier to pander to the lowest common denominator than to make something actually good

Why do you think Family Guy is still a popular and successful show? Why do you think terrible films make tons at the box office?

Popularity =/= Quality

Nick doesn't care about making a good show, they only care about making a popular show, since TLH proved popular they will milk it for probably 10 more years at least, its basically the only thing they know how to do
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>>93372380
No, he's just a really good at communicating by subliminal means, thus making him based as fuck.
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>>93373026
don't give a shit about his parents
fuck him for stealing so many episodes when the sisters should've gotten it
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>>93372784
>Season 3 is going to focus on more serious and emotional topics
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>>93360999
Not gonna deny that The Loud House is cliche, but something about it somehow feels fresh, unlike Legendary Defender which is competently made but completely generic.
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What do you guys think of this?
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>>93360999
>>93361828
>>93362009
>>93366625
>>93366626
>>93370170
>>93370242
HARVEY BEAKS IS FUCKING CANCELLED?? WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>93373026
They're in some deep shit right now
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>>93373292
>missing the drama

nickelodeon absolutely shart on blat's head and made him lick it clean
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>>93373327
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
FUCK NICKELODEON MAN FUCK
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>>93373339
>On November 6, 2016, C. H. Greenblatt announced that the series had been cancelled. Additionally, Greenblatt confirmed that the remaining episodes will air on Nicktoons, which he had not been made aware of until seeing a Twitter post from Nickelodeon.[25][26][27] Harvey Beaks was originally set to premiere new episodes on Nicktoons on November 20. Following a series of angry rants by Greenblatt (which were later deleted), the episodes were delayed indefinitely. Greenblatt later stated in a Tumblr post the following February, "I literally have no idea when or where or if [the episodes]'ll air."[28] The new episodes eventually started airing on Nicktoons on March 1.
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>>93373380
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>>93372608
>referencing CN means you are a CNfag

The absolute STATE of pathetic Loudfags trying to justify their obsession with their Deviantart-tier rubbish
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I like loud house but goddam seeing it air on nick is like seeing a person you like sloooooooooowly walking in front of a train
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so how many of these girls are going to show nips? we're at 3 so far.
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>>93372380
Savino is a weirdo. He's definently got a incest fetish that's makes it's way into the show itself time and again (hence why Lynncoln is a thing). We know he browses the booru, and... Well, just look at him. He looks like someone you'd see in a mugshot.
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>>93373897
The baby, Lynn in that bath photo, who else?
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>>93373132
I like to think of LH as Hey Arnold's tumblrized noodle person clone. Arnold managed to bring in topics like poverty and 'nam effortlessly, whereas LH, lacking Arnold's maturity and coherence, just spazzes all over cringe worthy Calarts topics in a attempt to get publicity while lacking the sublety of its predecessor. It'll be amusing to see LH evolve a meme show in a few years like Jimmy Neutron which is now a decrepit vehicle for Holocaust denial.

Sorry Loudfags. Your toon is shittier than SU. Just being honest.
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>>93361063
>4 people confirmed for gay
>family friendly
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>>93374138
Lisa in Potty Mouth, and Lily
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>>93361258
The problem was her VA.
Futterman is a notorious bi-slut.
As you can notice a lot of Luna's design originated from her.
Take the fact that unlike the other sisters (who were actually named after Savino's rl sisters or daughters) Luna's name came from his dog. His fucking dog.
So since there is no way Savino can offend his actual family with this move, Futterman can do whatever she pleases with Luna
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>>93374286
Faggotass nigga!
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Someone post the pasta.
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>>93368737
How can lesbians get aids?
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>>93365881
>people won't remember her as an attempted baby murderer
thanks Obama
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>>93361258
This. The issue is they could easily have made Sam the guy and there would have been literally no differece.
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>>93360999
Basically this.
Loud House would've been a mere footnote 15 years ago because of how strong competition was.
Savino really hasn't changed all that much.
His PPG and Dexter's Lab seasons would be a major hit nowadays. Very dreadful to think about, but it's sadly the truth.

But I also can't deny that he was smart here. It is clear, that while not the main target, having an adult audience, no matter how creepy they may be, is not a bad thing at all.
How did he do it? Well he didn't reinvent the wheel. Cartoonists, noticed that adult males like to watch Japanese cartoons about cute and retarded girls doing cute and retarded things. They also noticed that cartoons lacked distinctive female characters to fetishise, I am looking at you, Ventrue Brothers, Metalocalypse and so on so what they did was copying the moe tech from the anime and create My Little Pony.
Savino thought, that if this shit works on girls, it can definitely work on rabbits as well (which he later wisely changed into humans).
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>>93373327
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>>93364369
>Secondly, from her design, background, to even a couple of passing casual lines, most just accepted that she was most likely to be Bi anyway.
Post them.
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>>93374635
You know, he likely watches anime and MLP himself, hence why he chose to target the... Lonely twenty something neckbeard crowd. He knew it'd sell from experience.
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>>93374696
The problem is, that all major networks, sans Adult Swim, treat their target audiences with contempt and disdain, not worth catered towards to.
This actually clouds their judgement on things that would actually net them cash inflow, but remember, they still hate us, for not buying their live action meme shows.

A look at their "Hello, fellow kids" PR approach tells you everything you need to know.
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>>93374341
>Blaming the VA and not the writer
http://www.animationinsider.com/2013/05/kevin-sullivan/
>I’m gay, and when I was growing up this was not something that was as accepted as it is now. It was a struggle to accept myself and to come out to those people close to me. My family and friends have been awesome, but in the beginning I did lose a couple people who wanted nothing to do with me when I came out. I hope someday to be able to get a gay character onto a Nickelodeon show – be it animation or live action – so that kids growing up in some small town somewhere can recognize themselves on TV early on and never feel alone.
Sullivan would have written in a gay main character regardless on how the VA's look.
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>>93366626
it wasnt that kids didn't like it, nick just didn't let it flourish. They wouldn't advertise the new episodes well, rarely showed re runs in favorable time slots, but they expected it to get the same ratings as spongebob gets currently. It didn't of course so Nick saw it as a failure and let it die on their nicktoons network that isn't on basic cable packages
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>>93367167
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>>93374943
RIP
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>>93374857
>tfw Kevin Sullivan is going to die of AIDS

"Savino, why are you animating all of my episodes first?"
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>>93371931
>deflecting
His point was that faggots spread disease and need death.
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>>93372218
This. Shame that I'll be watching it all online now.
>>93372333
People say this about every character.
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>>93372608
Got any more ___fag pictures?
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>>93360999
Also fetishes.
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>>93374461
Considering what an acrobatic act that is, where you have to be /fit/ as fuck, I'd say, it's not even worth the effort.
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>>93374206
LH is nothing like HA. It's more like a tame Captain Planet.
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>>93374635
>Loud House would've been a mere footnote 15 years ago because of how strong competition was.
Eh, not really. It only had to compete with FOP and Spongebob even back then so its not much different from now. Despite the memes and revisionism, Jimmy Neutron and Invader Zim were trash that nobody watched, Rugrats and Hey Arnold were on their death beds, and CN was airing a bunch of boring cartoons like EEnE while everyone was really waiting for Toonami and Dragonball Z to come on.
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>>93372218
Exactly.

Here's some replies for you to read.
>>93361155
>>93361258
>>93365881
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>>93374943
>tfw she would have been the perfect of Leni>>93375081
Feels good that fags will die out with such suffering.
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>>93375319
>boring cartoons like EEnE
Good job ruining your post.
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>>93374206
>comparing LH to HA
Dude, they are a huge genre shift apart from each other.
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>>93375355
That show was a concentrated cure for insomnia. Formulaic to the max, full of obnoxious and unlikeable characters, putrid artstyle, and a theme song that whistled to you "change the channel to Nick, NOW".
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>>93361192
Elements like what?
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>>93375429
>your opinion
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>>93375469
Avatarfagging with Spongebob images doesn't hide your CN fanboyism one bit.
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>>93375319
Even on their death beds, these shows were way superior in quality than the Loud House is at it's pique.
Assuming they ever had a pique.
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>>93375494
>fanboiysm
Good try. I watched all of the Nick shows when I was younger, but EEnE was based.
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>>93375542
Alright as much as I dislike LH, Lisa's crooked smile and devious eyes always make me chuckle.
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>>93374206
I don't know the reason for this, but hipster really really like insufferable, unsympathetic assholes as characters.
And almost everybody on the Loud House are to a degree this. Ironically the nicer ones are only this, because they are out of focus and didn't had the opportunity to show the world what fucking twats they can be.
This is one of the reason why I fucking dropped the show. Can someone who likes this show, tell me what the appeal is towards these characters?
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>>93375614
It's going down is some aspects because of faggy Luna, but going up because of hard rapper Lisa. Have more Lisa as a peace offering.
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>>93372784
>Lisa loves hip hop and rap music
>not dubstep, electro
Why didn't they include a computer/gamer chick, again?
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>>93361828
NIGG DOES IT AGAIN
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>>93375648
They're like normal females, but some like Lenin Luna and even Lucy are for the most part sweet. Lana is nice too and Lisa is pretty kind too.
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>>93375541
Post-Dil Rugrats? Umm... no sweetie.

Hey Arnold wasn't thematically nearly the same cartoon as TLH is, and by 2002-4 it had overstayed its welcome. The movie was a flop.

Spongebob was a cartoon with a "wide" appeal, that is, to minorities, to preschoolers as well as elementary school kids. That being said it wasn't some unbeatable powerhouse, it actually lost the ratings war to FOP several seasons in a row in early 2000s.
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>>93373292
Nothing of value was lost in that cancellation, pleb.
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>>93375720
>Umm... no sweetie.
Not him, but yes. Even Kimi Rugrats is good, redditfag. Also, the movie was a flop because of shit advertisement and it originally being a simple few episodes.
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>>93375720
>Umm... no sweetie
Oh, you are "those" people.
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>cartoon for kids has hot teenage lesbians (bisexuals)

What a time to be alive.
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>>93375812
Yeah. Glad to know that we're in the last generations. All those fuckers making the ultimate sacrifice probably feel like shit now.
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>>93360999
Underage autist, manchilds, pedos, waifufags, and SJW's
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>93375892
Beyonder's /co/ down again?
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>>93367020
LOL Clarence was better, Loud House isnt even SOL its full of cliche shit and moral lessons.
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>>93367250
D E N T A L P L A N
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Meh, I don't like The Loud House at all, but I don't care if it's popular right now. It won't last as long as SpongeBob and Fairly OddParents.
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>>93375943
Like anyone even watched that shit. Might be the only CN cartoon with uglier characters than Steven Universe.

Not to mention, its creator going on a groping spree. And you people call Savino "sick".
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>>93375069
>"spongenigger"

The mind of a Loudfag, ladies and gentlemen. So puny that they can't even insult a nearly fucking 20 year old show properly. On that note...

>says this
>posts a character from a show that was literally never funny

What did you mean by this?
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>>93376001
People watch it, they just dont spend their time posting in image boards you autistic waifufag
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>>93376044
>Spongefag still salty FOP beat him in the ratings years ago, and TLH is beating him now
Sad!
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>>93376047
Excuse me JEB, but its latest batch of episodes didn't even break 900,000 viewers.
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>>93375812
underage tho
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>>93376044
>posts a character from a show that was literally never funny
FOP was funny during S0-2 or 3.
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>>93376138
Season 4 too.
Channel Chasers was far better than anything Spongbob ever dared to try.
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>>93375812
B-b-but muh gay hate boner reeeeeeee!!
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>>93376117
Viewers dont mean shit tbqh. Its like saying Transformers was a great movie because it was successful in box office.
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>>93365025

What is Gumball
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>>93375812
No.
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>>93376187
Video game references and Screaming: The Cartoon
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>>93376203
Loud House is Cliche shit and pandering the cartoon
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>>93376182
Returning viewers do mean shit though. Not him.
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>>93376224
It doesnt
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>>93376238
>bait
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>>93376097
>this is what loudfags actually believe
>mfw their taste in programming makes so much sense now

Meanwhile, in reality, SpongeBob consistently beats that poorly-drawn tripe in the ratings to this very day.
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>>93376241
>No argument so its bait
wew
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>>93376254
Avatarfagging is against the rules. So is the low quality posting and attempt to force a cartoon war. It's probably time to turn your phone on and off again.
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>>93376281
>no argument, so it's not bait
kek.
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>>93376215
Cliche how?
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>>93376296
Its a reaction image are you being retarded?
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>This entire thread

/pol/ go home
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>>93376296
(you)
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>>93376306
It was an argument though. Everything is bait to you pedos if you cant argue it
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>>93376203

Oh so you don't watch the show then.
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>>93376342
>phone filename reaction image every post
>PANCAKEFAG DEFENSE FORCE tier arguments
>likely a fair bit of samefagging going on
It's more like 8cuck in this thread.
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>>93376358
>It doesnt
This isn't an argument, cocklord.
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>>93375812
She is still pure.
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>>93376457
It is you're just too autistic to comprehend simple words
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>>93376497
>Back to square one
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>93376475
Anything outside of heterosexuality does not equate purity
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>>93360999

It's not especially well drawn orr writtwn, but it's good enough to be comfy and entertaining.

Plus its happy healthy nuclear reactor white family, with enough progressive ticks to prevent people from calling it a conservative or white supremacist fundie show or whatever proggos spout out these days.

In fact I think this is the most normal slice of life family toon in a long time. I can't remember anything recent that focuses on a large farm sized white family this much with this much success.
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>>93376607
>Hating bisexual girls
You have a worse case of autism.
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>>93376614
>Plus its happy healthy nuclear reactor white family
kek. Luna breaks that.
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Wasn't expecting luna to be bi. If any i'd have thought lenn.

..So is alternate luna bi too?
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>>93376698
Yeah I dislike bisexual girls, but jumping on a meme bandwagon doesn't help or prove your case.
>A-Autism
Anyone who cries out autism like a joke has no understanding of the word let alone the disorder or are probably autistic themselves.
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> this butthurt
hply shiet
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>>93377042
>that Luan and Lori
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>>93361192
I'm guessing you've missed the stuff about the interracial gay dads, and Luna being bisexual. The political extremes of society have swung from one pole to the other, making it a lot easier to get away with that stuff without a meltdown from angry parents, but it's still not exactly playing it safe.
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>>93377042
>>93377087
That Lori is canon
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>Bragging that your sub-par show is just barley above the rest of the shit Nick shits out

Didn't you guys get trashed or something?
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>>93377364
We got >>>10041738 sadly.
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>>93361828
It was boring.
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>>93366868
>>93366923
>Family takes literal shits on Lincoln's face for 9 minutes
>last minute of the episode:"Jk bro we love you!"
>Genuine
Why are loudfags so delusional?
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>>93377278
>this thing gets to date a young fabio with short hair
what the fuck is this garbage wish fulfillment fujobait anime?
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>>93378133
I see you never had brothers or sisters.
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>>93373222
Legendary Defender is pretty generic, but it's also in the same boat of having very little competition in its niche
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>>93378494
I was the eldest of four siblings. This show is a meme for lonely single children.
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