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America #4

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Welp Rivera wrote xer/ximself into a corner, guess how she gets out?
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>>93360864

Deus Ex Machina?
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>>93360864
Brown Fist?
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Place your bets.
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Those who guessed time travel, winrar. But you still read this comic so you don't really win, we all just lose.
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>>93360864
Finally the only comic that matters
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>>93360917
>para siempre
did you mean "por siempre"(for ever) it sounds way better like that
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>>93361160
This, all comics pale in comparison.
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>>93361244
>am spanishfag
you can use both on the context of the conversation. Also don't make me defend Rivera
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I unironically like the stoytiming of America Chavez. It is by far the worst shit ive ever read, but I like to read it with the best of /co/´s reactions.
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>>93361366
that's why i do it.
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>>93361197
>>93361268
>"I knew your moms!"
>"Fuck you, bitch! No one can talk about my moms except me!"
What the fuck is America's problem? She suddenly became a triggered Tumblrina.
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>>93361368
Fucking really?
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>>93361408
>She suddenly became a triggered Tumblrina.
You know why.
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Where is everybody? These America storytimes are normally packed full of people talking about this shit?
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All these marvel comics that have this type of flat looking art they all lack tension or impact or anything that makes you care for something. Both Squirel Girl and this and other stuff they all show you stuff without selling it to the reader, its 'things are this way because they just are', they just lack so much oomph and Im just amazed something like this actually exists and it blows my mind that its being published.
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>>93361368
>the mysterious Madrimar's been pulling the strings all along!
What strings? Did I miss something? Someone should storytelling the last few issues because I can't remember any strings being pulled
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>>93361368
>Americartas
>we want YOU! Send your emails to [email protected] and please mark them "OKAY TO PRINT,"

Well /co/ is there something you want to say to them?
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>>93361567
Pretty early in the weekday for Americalanders

Not everyone is a NEET
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>>93361296
yeah i know, wasn't trying to fix it just pointing out
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>>93361567
I knew #3 wasn't storytimed enough!
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>>93361606
if the thread 404 i will re-do it.
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i'm so confused
she goes to the past & helps herself
but when older america does it she's all fuck off you don't know me?
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>>93360967
>amigx
How do you pronounce this?
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>>93361368
if i send them a fully spanish wrote email will they print it and show how little they know spanish?
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>>93361456
>>93361368
HAHAHAHAHA.
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>>93360864
>Google translate pa'lante
>No results
>P'alante means forward
Apparently pa'lante means forward also but is spelt wrong or something and is the title of a Ricky Martin song???
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>>93360917
>You could have prevented this, anon
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>>93361681
Yes.
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>>93361699
Puerto Rican slang that's slung around for no reason in this comic.
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>>93360864
The dialogue always either revolves around punching, lesbian moms, inner strength trough hollow phraseology, and female/brown superiority, peppered with random palabras Españoles.
Can someone create a bot that can make scripts according to these specifications so that we may predict the coming issues?
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>>93360917
Wasn't it just last issue that said America only learned Spanish or whatever this thing passes for Spanish after coming to Earth? If so, why are they speaking Spanish? Rivera can't even maintain consistency in her story after one issue?
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>>93360917
wait a minute. . . . I thought America only got Spanish when she came to our dimension?
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>>93361755
You might need a separate Spanish slang bingo card per issue, because the writer forgets where each nationality those may come from.
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>>93361751
Ah so this is what early 00s chatroom text must have felt like to people who don't speak English. Not to the same extreme but there.
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>>93361797
>implying author isn't clueless
>implying this book has another role than pander to latinxs as much as possible

I thought you know better.
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>>93361824
To be fair Spanish slang tends to have some regional similarities, caribbean spanish has some common slangs and the nations on the southern cone also have common slang. So its not that wrong.
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>>93361022
>19+ years of existing and no one told her simply ideas like "plan things out" or "stay calm"
What?
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>>93360991
at this point aye guess she goes back in time meets a marketable marvel character who tells her how perfect she is, and the world gets saved

>i would bet my own handmade excellent quality #America comic panel.
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>>93361944
Regional slang, yeah. But here, not so much of that is true.
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>>93361976
she's retarded for maximum diversity
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>>93361996
>at this point aye guess she goes back in time meets a marketable marvel character who tells her how perfect she is, and the world gets saved

kek "marketable"
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>>93361664
you can't
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>>93361170
>They didn't kidnap you, did they?
>No, I just put on the kid leash to make you think so.
Okay.
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>>93360931
>leelumultipass phi theta betas
Just call them the leelus or something. At 10 syllables every time they're mentioned, it's a burden just to read it.
Also, only one of the leelu's is a character and NONE of them are interesting or cool. Just get rid of them
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>>93361147
Wait ... Didn't she capture it in the past?
Therefore NONE of what happened this whole comic (including this damaged up place) should still be here.
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>>93361976
She did, but for whatever reason, the words got twisted. Like a true American would.
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>>93361314
Yeh I called this 2 issues ago. Why is she so obvious.
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How many anti conservative strawmans has this comic done so far?
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>>93361170
"Me ignoring your messages is proof that we don't belong together"
What? Also didn't Zu die?
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She's get really ugly as an adult, fucking turkey neck.
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>>93361314
>>93361339
Those extra-heavy Latinx genes always catch up to you late in life.
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>>93361170
Is Zu the name of a character or is it another proper gender pronoun?

>LLMPPTB

I don't know what that is and don't really want to and why do I do this to myself
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>>93361681
Make it subtlety critical of them, I bet they wouldn't even bother to google translate it
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>>93362143
>LLMPPTB
LeeLoo MultiPass Phi Theta Beta
Because Gabby le gusta them pelicula references, amigx.
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>>93362152
i say make it sarcastic. sarcasm is hard to detect written.
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>>93361147?
IMANI LIVES GUYS, IMANI LIVES

also i am not great at time traveling rules, but if the villain, (let's name her Pinky, since i didn't catch her name) was gone why is leelumultipass, prodidge there
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>>93361339
I question the design of this half hover bigwheel.
Wouldn't it make more sense for the back wheels to stay down like training wheels and front to be hover?
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>>93362143
she is named Zumani, Zu is just the short version,
god i hate normies who come here asking stupid questions without knowing the lore
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>>93362188

Also >>93362143 get used to hearing that because they say the full name EVERY issue.
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>>93362235
easily the saddest reply today
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>>93361642
>doubting the creative genius of YA authxr Gabby
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>>93361368
>Dear Gabby and makers of this crap
>I heard about this book online and wanted to blindly support it
>I'm so glad we finally have Latino heroes in comics thanks to you. And no, I didn't attempt to see if there were any previous Latino characters
I'm mad
This is why Pantha was killed off.
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>>93361924
Why would you think that? i read this book......
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>>93361170
This is still one of the most forced breakups I've ever seen.
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>>93361103
Why can they just capture her? Was that established before hand? How is she able to bring her into a future to be captured if her presence in the past causes the conditions necessary for her capture? Why did this dumb bitch get time powers in her first issue?
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>>93362235
easily the greatest reply today
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i really hate marvel
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It's the only published book that legit rivals Sonichu.
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>>93361314
>>93361339
I dislike America now, but I would totally do this version.
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>>93360864
Every time I see this, the worst part is the hypocrisy.

On one hand, the character and author hate the culture and history of the U.S.A. They view the country as cis privileged scum. They want desperately to show how Latin they are.

On the other, they cravenly co-opt the emptiest symbols of the United States. Its the kindof cynical pseudo patriotism that comics during the Bush era mocked mercilessly.
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>>93362473
This is bad, but not sonichu bad. That's a new level of bad.
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>>93360888
Deus Latinx Machina.
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>>93361054
>>93361079
she talks way too much about her moms
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>>93361296
You didn't trust her fucking 5 pages ago.
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I love how random and disconnected all of this feels like. You need talent to write like this.
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>>93361170
this page is beyond stupid
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>And then they all scissored.

Don't queers only make up like two percent of the population. And I mean queers only. Not bi or trannies or furries or who the fuck else they've put in. So that would mean women who are actually dykes are like one percent of the population.

Wouldn't it rejection be more in line with what this piece of shit would experience?
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>>93361268
>and this day has been hella long
seems like someone played life is strange
who am I kidding? Rivera probably watched a playthrough on youtube with some obnoxious commentary, that's the kind of person zim is
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>>93361339
Man this is so heavy handed even America herself should pick up on it.
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>>93361399
"I didn't realize I was a gay until everyone else started doing it" sure makes it sound like it's not a fad or anything. MI gente.
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crossover when.
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So this comic is virtue signaling? There is nothing interesting about her.
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>>93360967
Impossible! that punch was concetrated brown! No one could have survived that!
>>93361170
What a disgusting abusive realationship
>>93361924
Yeah, speacialy because that whole backstory is bulshit. If She learned and respect spanish culture so much she adopts her language, then why her hero persona is full of United States Iconography?! "Just as american as you, shitlord!" doesn't work here when:
1-She isn't from US
2-He only speaks about latin americans
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>>93362688
>So this comic is virtue signaling?
No
Just stupid
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>>93360864
how do i become cool anon that storytime comics?
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>>93362633
The worst memes of modern society have come from hip hop and r&b. I'm talking things like hella, "on fleek", YAAAAS, and so forth. They get perpetuated by social media and it just makes day to day life miserable. I have a love and hate hate relationship with hip hop/r&b
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>>93362703
>If She learned and respect spanish culture so much she adopts her language, then why her hero persona is full of United States Iconography?! "Just as american as you, shitlord!" doesn't work here
You got a very important point here.
The point of America having that name and iconography while being a latina was to represent american-born latinos. But the problem with missing the point wasn't just Rivera, it was Gillen's transdimensional bullshit. It destroys the POTTERY of America's name, race and dresscode.
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>>93362798
>he worst memes of modern society have come from hip hop and r&b.
the best memes do too, tho'
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>>93360952
>Papo
What am I reading, Ortega y Pacheco?
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I wanna actually send a letter and hope it makes it in.
I know I won't cause I will be honest. I will praise it for what it is, the comic equivalent of The Room.
I'll tell about how I plan to recommend the trade for my comic book bookclub and hope this gets a cult following at this which is what it deserves.

I mean they had her punch out Hitler in the middle of a battlefield and acted like it was a bad thing.
They had her girlfriend lying on a bed with a child's leash acting like we were supposed to take it serious. We have the most idiotic sorority run by her self insert.
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>>93362524
did you say HITLER?
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>>93362798
As they say in the hip-hop world, why don't ya take a chill pill.
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>>93362829
Yeah that's why I also love those genres. It's a conflicting feel.
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>>93360991

Is the scan quality shitty or does the book's inking look this jagged?
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>>93360952
>Papo
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>>93362487
And on the other hand it showcases and glorifies a caricature of latin america because thats what they think it is.

Thats the problem with these people, they hate where they're from and want to be from somewhere else but have no idea what that other place is like so they end up sounding and looking like the ignorant americans they despise
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>>93361244
You seriously expect someone this lazy to give a fuck about how "for" has different contexts that don't translate into a singular conjugation in Spanish?
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>>93360864
Stop supporting this garbage. You are killing the industry
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>>93362917
it's not incorrect grammar tho'
"for ever and ever" is usually translated as "por siempre y para siempre", as an example
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>>93362930
I'm sure they're having a party with all those pirate bucks
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where was rivera born?
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I can't understand what's going on in this comic.
am I stupid?
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>>93362972
Alt Universe called Lesbian Land.
Then multiverse shenanigans happened and now she's on 616 since she was a kid.
She grew fond of Latino people cause they were brown skinned like her, and grew up to become a superhero.

That's what I've gathered from this horrible horrible comic.
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>>93363056
he asked for rivera
not america
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>>93363056
I hate how the Spanish have been dirtied. We are white.

We conquered Mexico, and pay the price for it now.
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>>93362979
It's not your fault we just don't have the context of numbers 1 - 3 is all
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>>93362979
Nothing happens in this comic, thats the problem. Nothing has value because things just happen, they have no consequence and add nothing, its a series of meaningless events.
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>>93363087
>We are white.
Argentina is whiter than you. You have more Allah in your blood than current pakis.
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>>93360967
>REEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEE
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>>93362495
I imagine this is more or less how Chris's writing would be like if xir somehow ended up working for some company with actual intellectual properties and editors.
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>>93363131
I just have a great natural tan, lad.
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>>93363131
I literally have blonde hair and blue eyes.
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I love these threads. Its just like dropping a huge rotten tomato and watching everybody react.
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>>93361664
You don't, you can't, you shouldn't! For that way lies madness summoned forth from the depths of the sea of the human soul!
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>>93362979

What is going is:
>America Chavez is part of the Ultimates but the Ultimates have to be broken up for some reason outside of this comic
>She has to go to an inter dimensional university for superheroes that has (as far as I know) never been mentioned before for some reason and because of that she has to break up with her GF because she is moving away (not like she has transportation powers)
>During a fight her powers start acting weird and she is transported to other dimensions/places
>there she meets stronk marvel woman that admire her despite not knowing her and teach her how to use her powers because this woman >>93361339 told them how and why but we don't know why
>Her ex GF was kidnaped by a group of America Chavez admires so that's why she was teleportation around
>She is still sad because her moms (She is from a lesbian Utopia dimension created by Wiccan, Scarlet Witch's son if you don't know) died sacrificing themselves for something I guess to save their planet?
>Apparently after that, she used her powers to come to the 616 universe and because she is brown she hanged out with latinos and learnt spanish, though this is contradicted by the flashbacks that show her and her mothers also speaking spanish
>back to the present, the fangirls kidnapped her ex because they wanted Chavez to save them from the monster from the very first issue.
>As far as I gather, punching the monster only makes it stronger, so she goes back to the past, stops herself from punching the creature and takes her to a container made by a friend in the university
>the mysterious woman is clearly a future her but Chavez is a massive bitch and can't even bother to listen to her for one minute

I think that's all. Did I miss/confuse something?
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>>93360864
Man the art for this sucks. It's all flat colours and the shading is inconsistent. Sometimes there is some and sometimes there isn't. And that girl with the Cap's shield hair is just obnoxious.
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>>93363181
and this guy is a mexican
what's your point?
your country is still filled with moro blood
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>>93361123
>>93361147

Fuck. I know she can teleport and shit, but there is no flow between this two pages. Like even showing the star portal behind her would have made it better.
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>>93362903

I honestly think of Cartman back before South Park went to shit. He goes to places like the rain forest, Mexico and calls it like he sees it.

>This place is poor, it smells, and everything wants to kill me!

Yes. Eleven million people aren't wrong. Latin America sucks. Stop glorifying shit.
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>>93363087
>spain
>white
memes aside, at least argentineans are actually white for the most part
spain is just european mexico
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>>93360931
So are we going to talk about the fact that the blue-haired girl with the visor changed races between issues? She used to be white.
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>>93363273

>Argentinians
>actually white

How are spaniards not white but Italian descendants are?
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>>93363262
sounds like someone's a sheltered baby
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>>93363296
nazis moved there after WWII
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>>93363298
Learn to pick your fights better.
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>>93363262

>Cartman said it so it's right
I see you are not very bright.
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>>93363317

More nazis moved to Brazil than Argentina. Doesn't make Brazil white.
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>>93362892
the later
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>>93363354
>More nazis moved to Brazil than Argentina.
can't blame them
look at dem asses
still, doesn't make spain white
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>>93362930
You think i buy this shit? try reading them online and buy the shit you like instead. This doesnt sell at all anyway.
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>>93361853
>early 00's chatroom text

j00 |</\/0\/\/ /\/07|-|1/\/9
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>>93363381

You can't pick and choose what is white because of your feels. Either you go the American way of lazy paperbag tests or go full /pol/ and divide all races. Italians belong to the same same race as most of Spain, so white Argies are as '''white'' as they are.
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>>93362972
Puerto Rico, xhe shames us all.
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>>93361664
Amig-ex
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>>93363217
The only confusing part is how this didn't got cancelled over the rest that did.
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>>93363217
Where again did the evil robots made to look like annoying white teen highschool come from?
Who made them? They're the closest to a villain we've had besides the pink/white entity.
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>>93362798
I thought YAAAS QUEEEEN was a gay thing?
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>>93363561
Gays like to take a lot from other cultures.
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>>93363298
Sounds like someone's a faggot from a big city whose never been to latin America.
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>>93363469
>Italians belong to the same same race as most of Spain,
no one said italians were white you moro~n
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>>93363584
yeah, exactly
you sound like that
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>>93363354
Don Francisco, the nickname of a celebrity in Latin America, is of German blood and his parents are refugees from the war. He was raised in Chile first, though.
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Guys, GUYS! You are forgetting that our shared hatred for this comic unites us. Now what do you say we write some emails for>>93361592
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>>93363589

>Italians are not white
>But argies are

Do you think 8 million Nazis moved to Argentina after the war ended or what?
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>>93363715
no clue, but still, they're whiter than spain
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>>93361368
>This comic has real intelligence. It puts me in mind of Neil Gaiman in his SANDMAN heyday
my god I think im having a stroke someone send an ambulance
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>>93361247
>all comics pale in comparison.
quite literally
because everyone's ambiguous brown geddit?
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>>93363638
Brazilian here, sent them an e-mail questioning why the fuck our flag was used on issue 3.

Also, I called America a "bizarre Mexican-American caricature". Let's see if they have the balls to publish it.
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>>93362837
Don't you DARE drag based Pedro Vera to this level
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>>93361022
>>93361054
>>93361079
>>93361103
>>93361123
Again I'm left asking why the fuck she doesn't do this in Secret Empire...
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Rivera is a fucking disgrace. If Pietri were alive today, he'd be smacking the shit out of her.
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>>93362235
i love you anon
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>>93363790
>Brazilian here, sent them an e-mail questioning why the fuck our flag was used on issue 3.
Because she putzed around ALL of South America, apparently.
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Are Quinones and Doyle usually thus terrible with their art? This book is so ugly to look at.
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>Nova died for this
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Does anyone care about this comic? Does the writer care about this comic? I feel like I'm reading the comic book version of a freshman paper. That special paper where you bullshit everything to get an easy grade.
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>>93362894
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_%26_Papo ??
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>>93363995
This is probably the best art the book's gotten so far.

>>93364123
It has an audience on /co/. Granted, it's because we hate it. But we're the closest thing this book has to fans.
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>>93361699
It's an abbreviation
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>>93360895
I hate Gillian so much
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>>93361788
Because she's a sassy Latina
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>>93363474
Nope. Xe's not from Puerto Rico. She's more of an alien invader than most others usually are.
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>>93364405
Rivera - Author of this piece of art?
>>93362972
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>>93363131
Nah homes, they got the Allah out during the Reconquista of Spain. Kept the tan, though.
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>>93364437
You thought I didn't read the post you replied to?
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>>93360931
I just have to picture the mental image of America sitting there, struggling to properly say "Leelumultipass Phi Theta Betas" in an urgent voice, while everyone is getting slaughtered by the enemies

Could she really not have said "LPTB?" Or can they just get a simpler fucking name? And how are normal humans a match for these aliens?
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>>93360991
Didn't she die? Or at least heavily injured? Am I missing something here?
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I'm wondering who's gonna be the poor soul that will have to deal with this mess of a "plot", when we get AMERICA Vol.2?
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>>93360952
>Papo
Denunciado, despídete de tu cuenta.
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>>93360967
This is starting to read like a Ewing pastiche. Like xhe's trying to imitate Al Ewing Ultimates and not understanding all the big words or any idea of the comics and characters' history.
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>>93363056
And it was created by Wiccan.

God I hate Wiccan.
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>>93361976
Don't be silly, you cisgendered shitlord! Planning? Patience? All you need to do is feel your way through things, esp. when you have no idea or understanding of what's going on around you!! Feelings > all else.
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>>93364738
Wanda can't even breed without ruining everything.
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>>93361339
Oh crap, Majin Buu absorbed Wonder Woman (and Celia Cruz)!

>>93361592
I have one:
>"Dear Team America. Chupa la callampa. Con cariño, anon. PS: Agarrenme la que cuelga"
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How does each issue manage to be worse than the last?
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>>93365173
Honest (lack of) effort.
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>>93365173
The longer it goes on the more I appreciate this comic. I hate the character and her retarded backstory, the worse their straight outta tumblr writer crashes her brand with no survivors the better.
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>>93361268
>Chavez Guerillas
>Warriors

Huh
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>>93362444
It's a huge fucking paradox, and also a stable one as nothing changed in the furture/present and the writer will never bring it up again.
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>>93361339
MADRIMAR

AUUU!!
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>>93360952
>papo
Que excelente memo, que picardía. Igual, despedite de tu cuenta, rufián.
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>>93360868
>But I met mohawk Storm
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Ok serious question thats been bugging me for years

Que mierda significa papo? Que es un papo?
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>>93365466
it's a term of endearment, it's almost like saying daddy but to your friends
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>>93362979
Nah, I have no idea what's going on either. Granted, I didn't try very hard in the first place.
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>>93362487
>>93362903
I think it's time for the United States to once and for all, abandon the "Hispanic/Latino is totally a different thing guys" shit. Gabby Riveria looks like a fat white woman with a tan.
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>>93363056
Why didn't she "click" with Southeast Asians? Or us black people? Aren't we brown?

Actually, on second thought, never mind. We don't want her.
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>>93363825
How could I?
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>>93364405
Not for long, you islanders are about to become a state
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>>93366360
This is 100000 times better than America
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>>93365466
Cunt.
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>>93361368
How dare they mention Sandman here ?
This is a disgrace.
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>>93363253

There is no flow between pages, and very little between panels. If you took out the dialogue of this comic and asked someone to put the pages in the correct order, it would be impossible to tell the right answer 3 times out of five.
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>>93362602
>Using that page
this triggers me
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>>93361366
This. It's garbage, but it's the kind of garbage that brings people together
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>>93360864

Guys.
Guys.
This was 4 issues of 20 pages only so Chavez could learn to 'think before punching'. This shit used to take 1 issue back in the silverage.
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>>93364701
Kek, I was expecting for someone to post this.
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What is the actual plot of this comic?

That girl goes "That's the end of the Chavez Guerillas" or whatever and it's like ok, why do we care?
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>>93360888
More like Deus Ex Latina amirite
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>>93361681
If you do send it, sign it as Aquiles Brinco or Rosa Meltrozo.
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>>93366922
And as a bonus, the book wasn't decompressed. ALL SORTS OF SHIT happened. It's just that none of it made any sense or had anything to do with any other part of it.
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>>93362605
>Don't queers only make up like two percent of the population. And I mean queers only. Not bi or trannies or furries or who the fuck else they've put in. So that would mean women who are actually dykes are like one percent of the population.
The whole LGBTPBBQ+¿ is about 8% of the population conservatively and the 'gender fluid' are about 2% so 1/4 of the community. Hard gay women would be between 1.5%-2% but remember there's now a whole lot of money tied up in this shit so numbers from polls and surveys vary. Still millions of women but yeah, the representation in the media is blown way out of proportion.
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Who are the retards that support this? Let it die as soon as it can.
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>>93367336
I fixed it.
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>>93363781

Make that two of us.
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I just came back from the hospital, apparently i had a stroke while reading this page >>93361368
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>>93366981
It's like Bo-bobo but gayer and boring
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>>93367740
this
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>>93361399
>Everything about the america comics is just maravillosos!

You stupid bitch, It's maravilloso. The noun "todo" is singular.
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>>93362670
Even if she actually is gay, what to point out the problem of attention whoring fags actually pretending to be LGBQ so they can feel oh so special.
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>>93361170
>Actually breaking up Lisa and America
Ewing didn't die for this.
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>>93367051
Burger here, is this suppose to be some kind of joke?
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>>93361022
>It's ME!
>Shoot it!
Who the fuck LIKES this character?
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>>93369410
Yes, they're joke names, like Bart's prank calls to Moe.
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Why does America speak Spanish?
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>>93364346
Who now? Sorry if its revealed on the page, I can't bear myself to read it properly.
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>>93360917
What was the purpose of this page
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>>93370426
>Abuela Santana
That's not even a generic Hispanic name. It's about as true to the language as "Abdul alHazred" is to Arabic.
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>>93364346
>>93364738
I agree with both of these statements. One of the few good things about this shitshow is how every new issue reminds us of how fucking awful Wiccan is as a character and how Gillian managed to take that and actually make it even worse.

>>93370041
He's the writer for YA v2, and was responsible for America's retarded as fuck backstory and for making a shitty self insert character even more obnoxious and wanky.
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Is the writer an actual spic or just chicano scum?
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>>93370579
She's a dumb Nuyorican that can't even speak Spanish.
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>>93370426
Teaching us that colombians live in trees.

>>93370579
Worse, nuyorican and whiter than milk.
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>>93370579
She's an American pretending to care about something.
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>>93370426
To try and desperately handwave away the literal cultural appropriation.
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>>93369852
can I get the translations?
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>>93360895
>>93360917
Fucking Gillen, he couldn't just have made young avengers about Kid Loki, no he had stroke his boner for gay people.
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Was the only reason America and Lisa break up was because Lisa's white?
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>>93370426
To tell us she is latin american because she spent time there.

This could be an interesting character if they ever explore the hypocrisy of her existence but they wont and chicanos will eat this shit up because they are so proud of la raza or whatever the fuck.
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>>93370605
>>93370644
>>93370671
>nuyorican roleplaying as a real spic
This is fucking pathetic.
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>>93370747
First one is "Here I jump" and the second means "Rub my chunk*"

*Translator note: chunk means penis
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>>93370747
Aquiles Brinco is like "I'm gonna hump you" and Rosa Meltrozo is "touch my dick"
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>>93370766
Not just white, but blonde. I'm going to go with a strong possibly.

Wouldn't be surprised if Rivera was just freeing America up to start dating one of her self inserts.
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>>93370426
> being latino means to be brown
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>>93363217
Wait, where does the Young Avengers run she was is tie into this?

...why was she even in YA, anyway?
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>>93361924

>mfw called Hispanic gf "Latinx" as a joke once
>mfw she told me to stfu cuz that's not how Spanish works and people who use that are retarded

I don't think Hispanics want SJW's help butchering their language, tbqh
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>>93370426
Triggering south Americans by associating them with the blackest members of their countries
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>>93371711
I don't think anyone want's SJW help.
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>>93370426

This is trying way too hard...

Don't different Hispanic ethnicities all hate each other, btw?
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>>93365466
lo que sos vos
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>>93370879
>>93370942
Thanks for the translations anon, that is hilarious.
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>>93371177
>why was she even in YA, anyway?
Because Gillen wasn't allowed to use Patriot and he wanted an American-themed hero. He decided to use MAC since she was both America-themed and so ill-defined that he was able to basically write her as an OC to make her work however he wanted for the story he was writing.
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>>93370426
To show the hipocrisy of an author. America is guilty of cultural appropriation according to the rules SJWs try to force on everyone they can.
Meanwhile in a place free of cognitive dissonance: https://twitter.com/QuirkyRican/status/619223504488108032
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>>93367051
This please
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>>93367336
>Issue 3
>Almost 15K

Wow thank goodness it's a 'stealth mini' am I rite?
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>>93372870
It's two stealth minis, their not going to give up on the book and get bad press from cancelling it until it's passed at least 10 issues. That way they can say 'at least we tried'.
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Zu is the only good thing to come out of this thing.
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>>93373745
Nothing good has come out of this, nothing.
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>>93373866
Oh, I was hoping the porn would be.

Otherwise, I'm in clarity enough again to concede readily and say you're absolutely right.
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>>93370501
>That's not even a generic Hispanic name
Santana is an actual surname
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>>93375027
Yeah, but you're supposed to call your Abuela by her first name (eg. Abuela Marta), that's how it works. If you're her grandson, calling her by her family name makes you look like a pedantic prick.
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>>93360917
Why the fuck didn't they tell their daughter goodbye? This blackhole doesn't seem to be a last minute sort of thing.
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>>93361339
>Just came back from convincing her past self to listen to her
>refuses to listen to her future self
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>>93362354

No love for Jaime Reyes
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>>93362354
>there aren't any Latino heroes to love
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>>93360967
Her old look was so much better than this new garbage 2bh
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>>93361147
What the fuck is this art
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>>93362354
>This is why Pantha was killed off.

That was mid 00s, before SJW outrage became common.
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>>93366360
I would say "What is this, 1997?", but EoPE would be more 1992-1993 when America had no clue who that group was.
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>>93376355
Also White Tiger
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>>93376355
>you'll never see Robbie tear America to fucking pieces and then following her across the world, her in her star portals him in hell portals
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>>93361339
>Old America is a better design than present America
>Talks like an elite level autist
And i mean like an actual autist, not the meme definition.

God damn it i was actually looking forward to wrestling grandma being in the story but they had to go ahead and find a way to ruin the one good thing they had by turning her into another "You are the chosen one" talking head.
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>>93371903
Pretty much, especially in South America.
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>>93376355
>kid from the streets cliche
Boring.
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>>93361147
>>93361123
This must be the worst and most nonsensical use of time travel in all of fiction.
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>>93361924
>latinxs
this idiots and their donut steal words will never not make me angry, just say latins for fuck sake
pander to who? everyone I know hates this kind of shit
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>>93366360
anon no, I came here to feel angry, not sad and old
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>>93360917
what child talks like that? she's just rambling on in this faux run-on sentence style
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>>93364123
Sadly, one of my friends unironically likes it.
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>>93375586
This
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>>93360895
>>93360917
It's like Superman. But shit.
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>>93360917
>>93367740
Maybe if I squint my eyes and shot myself in the head...
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>>93365466
In Spain it's a very vulgar and uneducated way to say "vagina", so I assumed she called her a cunt.
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So does this comic have any white people.
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>>93379337
Well there's her girlfriend, who was personality-morphed into a dumb bitch
And there's some terrible douchebag college boys, who turned out to be robots
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>>93361368
>SANDMAN
Just stop making comics, marvel. There is no need for this
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>>93361244
Para siempre may not translate as well but it fits better in spanish
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>>93379356
>the only white people are the bad guys
I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>93365466
Pussy, but in Spain I think you need to be inbred to use it unironically
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>>93363781
>>93366619
>>93379393
Can someone screen the sandman part? My brain is fried from reading this and RiriIronman,Iceman and Royals. and I don't want to skim through "YOUR BOOK IS EMPOWERING TO ME A GAY LATINX XD"
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>>93379613
Leftmost letter of the page I linked. Particularly the second paragraph
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>>93374569
No one is going to draw any porn or fanart of this fiasco of a comic.
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>>93361368
>>93361399
these letters can't be from real people. they have to be marvel interns
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>>93362139
America turns into Jeb Bush's wife when she gets old
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>>93379969
Nah, there needs to be a shitton of porn for this comic just so it could grind on Marvel and Rivera. I'm talking "porn results on the first page of a google search" level of porn.
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>>93361197
>hey! don't call out my name if you don't know me.

this sums up perfectly why I hate this "character"
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>>93381203
Every time a character says something stupid like that i think of an old /v i used to play.

>hey! don't call out my name if you don't know me.
>But .......... thats your name, fine fuck it your new name is Dumbass.
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>>93381542
>tfw you rename your father Mid-Boss and proceed to beat his ass
Laharl worst son
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Is there seriously a worst new character in all of comics than the Leelumultipass girls?

They have to be the worst.
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>>93379672
Thanks Anon. So this is fake fan mail right? This can't be real, r-right guys?
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>>93382499
Well like the lead one is basically a self-insert for the writer, but more brown. Given she also made Sotomayor more brown, I'm guessing she's afraid people would recognise they're hispanic she doesn't do that.

>>93382514
I assume they're sent in by real people, but I think they also ham it up a lot to increase their chances of getting in there. Like, obviously they're not gonna put negative letters in there and they're aiming for a very strong LGBT/diversity narrative.
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>Marvel promoting a healthy lesbian relationship
That's very creative, Marvel!
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>>93382538
>is basically a self-insert for the write
How many self inserts has he had so far in this series so far? 2,3? It's ridiculous and it already sours an already spoiled book, they made the sorority house basically a house full of Mary Sues (and of course they're all lesbians) that can help America take on cosmic foes and really the whole "kidnap" was a fake kidnap, is the author really afraid to have a "POC" to be the bad guy.

How much hate mail do you think they have to filter to see some good fan mail eh?
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>>93382499
The Chavez Guerrillas are worst than the Leelumultipass sorority. The sorority is at least batshit insane in a way that another writer could make entertaining, the guerrillas are just a boring fan club.
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>>93379408
>Anon assumes all the college kids were white males

Nice.
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>>93382600
>How many self inserts has he had so far in this series so far? 2,3?
She has two obvious ones - one at the very beginning (pic related, bottom left), who is a little more accurate. Then the head of the multipass group.

>really the whole "kidnap" was a fake kidnap
Don't forget it put the blame solely on Lisa, which made it easier to break them up more permanently.

>>93382649
They were all white that I saw, but yeah there were women in there too
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I would unironically pay 25000$, to make Marvel kill America Sanchez by DC´s Lobo.
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>>93373745
Is Zu the asian (?) girl with the cat head phones? She's vaguely cute I guess which would mean nice art but it's not like she's a good character or anything.
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>>93382649
>>Anon assumes all the college kids were white males
Give me a page with a non white college prep kid, all I can remember are them being White.
>>93382702
These self inserts are just disgusting man, I mean okay page 1 of #1 alright I can be okay with it since its just an irrelevant panel but to make her into the sorority leader of the best sorority that can fight cosmic beings, is a tad bit too much.
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>>93364586
>>93362062
but then there would be no radical movie reference
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>>93367740

Nigga don't insult Bo-Bobo.
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>>93361123
>maltixans
>malixans
>mexians
>mexicans
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>>93362235
best reply
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>>93382747
She's got the best design out of the bunch, looking the most like a classic superhero.
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>>93370426

>Lifting culture and language...

APPROPRIATION

WEEOOWEEOO
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>>93382702
Gabby
>mannish
>fridge-like body
>shaved/no hair
>skin so light she looks Anglo
>hides body beneath baggy clothes
>Hispanic by blood who knows nothing about culture

America
>ultra-feminine
>voluptuous body
>long, thicc hair
>skin so brown she could be mistaken for a Black
>shows off body with tight shirts and shorts
>Hispanic by cultural appropriation who knows nothing about family

What did Marvel mean by this?
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>>93382702

Everything about this is hideous
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>>93383887
Well America predates Rivera, so I don't consider her a self-insert.

America is the power fantasy
Multipass Leader is the self-insert
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>>93361170

> the state of lesbian relationships
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>>93361054
It feels sacrilege for a comic this shitty to make a homage
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>>93364639
If it were me, I'd open it with America sealed in some villain's Evil Laboratory (tm) where everything here from this arc was just a hallucination intended to break her mental defences by driving her mad. Like in Farscape, when a Scarren operative captured Crichton and created a world that was just a little bit off and only got more bizarre and irrational as a deliberate attempt to destroy Crichton's mind.
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>>93384168
Whats baffling about it is that America is still in the wrong for this whole thing because SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM EASILY, AND CHOOSES TO BE A BITCH ABOUT IT.
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>>93383963
there is really nothing wrong with self-inserting (ellis - pete wisdon, etc), but when you dont know the continuity and are in addition, a shit writer, there is most likely a problem
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>>93362062
I'm never not angry when I see this shit. It's a stupid reference to begin with, but using it over and over is what will cause me to go Sandy Hook on her ass.
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>>93384621
There is nothing wrong with self-inserting if the self-inserts are actual characters with logical reasons to share your opinions and beliefs.
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>>93364639
You have no idea how much I want to be the next writer of this. I want to double down on everything.
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Okay, I will be the first to admit I don't read this shit. But I read this and I have to ask, "what the fuck?" But that's not the only question brought to mind by this issue.

Did a Pride parade vomit everyone in this comic forth? Why is this atrocious level of art tolerated in a for profit comic? Who the hell says leelumultipass phi theta bullshit during a battle? Why do homosexuals tolerate this level of blatant pandering cash grab? For that matter why do homosexuals tolerate being portrayed only as the most extreme possible examples? And perhaps most important, what the fuck did I just read?
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>>93383963
>America is the Sonichu
>Multipass Leader is the Chris-Chan
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What are this comic's sales by the way
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>>93385483
1 - 43,592 March
2 - 23,987 April
3 - 16,262 May
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>>93385590
I should try and look around the archives some time to see if I can find my predictions for sales when America #1's sales came out. I think I've been more or less spot on with the trajectory/range per issue.
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>>93385590
So it bombed spectacularly, right?
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>>93385798
Jeez, bombing doesn't even cover it.

43k is mediocre at best for a #1
24k is around the time you need to be worried about cancellation.
16k is "if I am alive it is solely because someone wants me alive, not sales"

Not to mention the attrition

43k -> 24k isn't TOO bad. #1 to #2 is always a big drop off. But to continue with nearly a third drop off? Hell, we're not even getting into the issue of overshipping to fudge the numbers.

This comic has done worse than Nova and Nova's sales were abysmal beyond comprehension
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>>93385951
I'd say 43k isn't a bad debut for a c-list character whose only exposure has been through secondary titles. But you're right a 45% drop between #1 and #2 is pretty normal, but adding a 33% drop between #2 and #3 is only sustainable when you debut at twice the numbers this pulled. Being a second-tier title with some push behind it might keep it off the chopping block until #6, but at that point we're probably looking at sub-10k. Hell, I'd wager this issue is looking at 11-12k.
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>>93377738
The LoSH once used time travel to go to a party at Superman's house and it was still less nonsensical than this.
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>>93360915
Just another reason to kick these people out.
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>>93386437
no real mexican acknowledges that "la raza" shit
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>>93361339
>"unless you're old lady future me"
>that is old lady future her
what the actual fuck is this writing
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>>93386636
Subpar dramatic irony.
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>>93384469
She chooses to be a bitch in almost every situation besides the ones that involve the LLMPPTB.
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>>93382406
>and proceed to beat his ass
He let Laharl win.
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>>93361268
>>93361296
>>93361314
>>93361339
Why the fuck is she such a stupid cunt? Like if I was a super hero who LITERALLY JUST USED MY POWERS TO GO BACK IN TIME TO TALK TO MY PAST SELF I would get that an other person who also just happens to have my very same powers is most likely a future me, but she just has to act like such a fucking STUPID CUNT all the time that she refuses to even consider that not only is this person perhaps actually trustworthy and not trying to trick you but also that this person is LITERALLY YOU.
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>>93371029
From the look of the cover preview it's gonna be Kate so look out Katefags.
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>>93387323
Kate made sense to me when i realized the whole superheroing thing of her just her subconscious trying to get her into situations where she could get raped again
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i didn't think this was that bad?
why does /co/ hate it so?
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>>93387597
Gabby please.
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>>93387211
If you were such an incredibly stupid cunt, would you trust another version of yourself? That person is a fucking idiot.
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>>93361022

literally whitewashing the latinos eyes. how caucasian-normative.
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>>93376127
Stupid phone poster
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>>93364449
And the good beards.
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>>93387597
Here are all my problems with it

The character is not from Earth yet seems to represent both America and Latin America while not being from either and butchering the Spanish language as its basically a caricature of what Americans think Latin americans are. Sassy, spanglish speaking dumb bitch, its a shallow character that pretends to be more than it is.

The art is bland and, again, shallow. There's no impact to it and the coloring only accentuates its lack of motion and it seems like the panelling is trying to make up for it but it fails spectacularly as it only creates more confusion instead of being interesting or visually clear.

The writing is all over the place, the problems that the character seems to suffer are not real problems within the narrative and the battles are not really an obstacle and more of a showcase of how awesome the character is, which is another problem in the comic as the whole script seems to forget that you have to show rather than tell how good or bad something is as the main character has yet to convince me of any of its qualities that it seems to have.

In short, its a shallow piece of shit.
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>>93387797
Good thing I'm not a stupid cunt then.
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>>93372691
If there was any other reason to not listen to the msm.
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>>93387965
Just to build on what this anon said, look at the battle from the 2nd issue, where America is fighting the Privileged Cyborgs. She thumps a couple, calls out 'Selena, help me!' and just like that, her prayer to a singer is answered and all the Privileged Cyborgs fall over. No further explanation is offered, like Prodigy saying 'Oh, I managed to transmit a shutdown code and the timing was just a coincidence.' Just bam, fight over. Or the battle with the Ambiguously Evil White Light Monster That Is Actually Red. There's no sense of urgency. None of the Leelus are getting beaten or killed. The Chavez Guerillas aren't twitching on the ground from being seared by Deadly LA-ZORS. America herself isn't a hair's breadth from being extinguished by this monstrosity. Everyone's just kind of doing stuff (and being totally awesome u guyz) while the villains mill around ineffectually. As a result, the battles have no sense of gravity.

And there are just massive, stupid decisions here. America, who can teleport, breaks up with her girlfriend because she doesn't want to move to University Town. Because she refuses to actually talk to her now-ex, said ex has to resort to an asinine 'I'm totally in danger' plan just to say, this space colony is facing extermination. Or even America smashing her way out of the classroom instead of running out of the door or y'know, teleporting.

Or saying 'hi past self, it's me future self, you should trust me' then immediately going 'fuck you future self, I don't trust you'. Or America making everything about her, her, her. I screwed up an Allied plan to capture Hitler? How dare you suggest I'm not awesome, Becky! I'm supposed to work with someone who challenges me? Better grab the partner that's kissing my ass! I can't be arsed to listen to people desperate for my help because I don't like them! And so forth. She's not only self-centered, she's stupid and arrogant and the entire universe bends over to have almost everyone worship her.
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>>93387597
terrible writing in both the story telling and just a lot of the dialog, it's insulting to me as someone whos latin (also my other latin female friend hates it), and the crappy art didn't help
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>>93388629
It's weird since Quinones is a pretty good artist, I can't decide if it's the colorist making it look like shit or if Quinones is just phoning it in because he really doesn't want to be on this book.
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>>93363262
>the rain forest sucks
city baby fuck off, if you can't appreciate the beauty of one of the rarest ecosystems in the world you're a fucking faggot
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>>93369404
Yeah, but on the other hand, America is currently a character who couldn't be in anything but a toxic relationship.

She's kind of a dick to everyone.
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>>93388976
Every single scene with her girlfriend points to America being the toxic one.

>>93388815
The coloring and inking are pretty lazy. The fact that there are five different people doing inks and colors can't help either.

>>93388878
It's still hot, humid, and full of biting insects.
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>>93387968
Right, you could trust Future You. Chavez is actually being smart by realizing what a stupid bitch she is and not trusting herself.
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>>93385675
Not that anyone cares but samefagging anyway. I'm going to be generous and say that #4 drops to around 13k-14k. Will probably level out anywhere from 11k-14k. I don't think it drops below 10k but who knows!
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How the fuck is this shit not cancelled yet?
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>>93392517
Marvel is doing so badly across the board I'm pretty sure their cancellation threshold itself has dropped.
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>>93374569
>>93379969
>>93380632

I thought about it a lot. Its been a long time since I gave in the siren calls of such a dare, I had not felt the urge of drawing this character being dicked because its so dull. They are so far up in their own ass they had very small footprint in any of the comic circle I run in, so it can be easily ignored.

I think there is also about a page worth in paheal though, so there is that.
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>>93392517
Give her six issue to fill a TPB then drop her on a second-string team book, relaunch in a year or two.
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>>93392863
C'mon man, not even a little temped to draw her getting the brown fist from the sorority girls?
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>>93384273
I don't think it's an homage, I think it's "copying poses"
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>>93361170
Reminder they broke up because Lisa didn't want to move out of her apartment to follow America on her college trip. The woman who can travel through time and space broke up with her girlfriend because they can't handle a long distance relationship. That's the level this comic is at.
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>>93393231
I'd bet good money the only reason Rivera forced that is so America can dick around with whichever ethnic lesbian she can get away with. Leelola Leader is probably first up.
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>>93362524
>That fucking art
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>>93393231
Jesus christ the colorist is fucking terrible. Her nose basically disappeared.
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>>93360895
>Is a still a child
What did they mean by this?
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>>93376052
Even when he spouts that annoying Spanglish, he's still and infinitely better character.
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>>93393231
Real question, has America ever been a good person?

No, really, everything I've ever seen with her is her just lashing out at people and talking about how she's always right. Sure she saves the world and all, but she is arrogant about it. Even Doom would show some people respect.
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>>93362524
funny fan drawing you found of devart, but it's not nice to tease the 12 year olds there. They're just starting out. They'll get better with practice some day.
Now post something from the actual comic.
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>>93371711
Every time I see latinx I keep thinking of this.
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>>93392937
I'm tempted to have her being dicked by superior white cock.
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>>93393784
America is such an awful unlikable cunt that the story has to tell you to like her and show you people praising her because the author doesn't understand how to be a decent person.
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>>93361642
America is being a fucking idiot and it should be pretty obvious who that nigga is but Mardigras could have helped matters by not speaking like a cryptic dumbass.
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>>93394008
Make it the cyborg prep students.
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>>93394059
>because the author doesn't understand how to be a decent person
But it feels like this is how EVERY writer uses her. I haven't read too much with her, but not once has she ever been in the wrong as far as the story goes.
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>>93393231
>Puro crapola

Khé verga
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>>93394059
>>93394847


There's a guy saying the reason why women don't suffer in slapstick is because we are hardwired into being protective of women no matter what. That might be related as to why America can never be written well.

Then again, women are more vocal about hating fictional women who are obnoxious than men are. Anecdotal yes, but I know my older sister openly said she wanted to strangle Princess Merida from BRAVE.
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>>93370426
Because brown people are allowed to be proud of their heritage
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>>93382702
>better than The Cure and MCR
Still shit then
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>>93382538
They also made america more brown
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>>93395656
But it isn't her heritage. She was a tourist looking for a hug.
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Where's that faggot who storytimes the rest of the issues?
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>>93396467
Faggot here, watsup?
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>>93393319
Nah, she'll probably try and make America/Hawkcunt official.
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>>93392937
I had half a notion of her forced to salute Steve's flagpole, while Falcon shows her his brown fist, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
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>>93393784
I think she is awful as some sort of meta attempt people talk shit about america
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>>93366360
>ramiro el gay
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>>93387965
>>93388575
America Chavez is a giant fucking Mary Sue.
I want a comic in which she is a villain - one in which she tries to force people to like her and if they dont she beats them up all the while her sycophants applaud her and kiss her ass.

Then I want an actual super hero to kick her ass or have it be revealed that she was being puppeted by a super villian.
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>>93360864
Is anyone actually buying this shit? Or is it surviving entirely off of Soros bux?
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>>93371903

Yep, they do. I remember one mexican dude was pissed that people confused a Guatemalan for a Mexican. They legit hate each other.
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>>93382733

>Kill

No. We need to make sure that America is NEVER gonna come back. I'll pay 30000$ for Marvel to get America Chavez erased from existence(hakai'd) by Beerus from DBZ.
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>>93360868
>hella
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>>93361699
Idk i can't really explain but its basically para adelante, it's just slang
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>>93377458
>>93398792

Yeah, as I gather, the more realistic outcome of showing and growing up in one of the Hispanic countries would be:

>Fuck all the other Hispanics
>Niggers too
>Especially Muslims
>And Asians
>And fags
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