Batman #25 Storytime

Bump. Thanks for the story time Norrin.

Link? Not in win-o

>>93355730
THREADLY REMINDER THAT TOM KING THINKS RIDDLER WOULD COMMIT SUDOKU IF HE SOLVED THE ULTIMATE RIDDLE.
https://youtu.be/L_rxFstIRGk?t=9m55s

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>>93355772
Hm.

>>93355781
why is that a big deal? If there were literally no more riddles, it makes sense

>>93355810

Not him but fuck off to /pol/ or /b/ if you want to act like a faggot and let us enjoy some damn comics.

>>93355746
>Dr Seuss Rebirth

>>93355789
Should have known the namefag would be an attention whore put off by people reading comics in ways not centered around him.

>>93355793
>>93355799
That's so fucking retarded

>>93355824
>>93355832
that's beautiful

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There's actually a full preview of the new Aquaman book in the back of here. Will save it for the actual storytime.

>>93355870
Everyone Janin draws is so sexy.

>>93355861
>posershit
>beautiful
Get your eyes checked

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>>93355770
Oh fuck you King. What is the point of having riddler if he is just going to be a knife-wielding psycho?

I like the way this joker is being drawn, which of the three is he?

I kinda enjoy this, but Riddler sounds and is drawn like the edgy self-insert of some douchy teen who watched a Clockwork Orange too many times.

He looks like fucking Jerome from Gotham.

>>93355858
Insultingly so.

>>93355925
that's pretty standard riddler though, he is a poser acting tough when he's a beta nerd

>>93355925
well this is the riddler from zero year, who was pretty edgy

>>93355898
probably Moore's
Snyder's was locked up in the batcave and the original doesn't care that much about batman

>>93355957
You can be tough without being edgy.

>>93355971
when did the locked in the batcave happen?

>>93355870
This is perfect bedside talk

Wait so this entire story is just a big flashback?

>>93355974
and the riddler isn't one of those

>>93355793
>>93355789

I find it hard to believe those cops didn't just blow him to bits there and then

Stop turning Joker and Riddler into just "killers who joke or riddle or whatever". I know they are crazy but Riddler slicing up necks and Joker just shooting people randomly is lazy as fuck

>>93355730
This wasn't really extra sized aside from having a preview.

>>93355991
I think Joker's just killing people is supposed to be lazy, since he's unable to laugh at the moment, lost his funk

>>93355961
How was he edgy?

>>93355982
And 'standard Riddler' isn't edgy.

>>93355870

>King shows he is incompetent and has Batman tell Selina that she's the only one who gets him
>everyone points out that Alfred and batfamily prolly get him better
>BACKPEDALING TIME
>emo Bruce says that NOBODY gets him and starts to tell a flashback story that will have no consequence whatsoever

Fuck this run

>>93356011
so this isn't your Riddler. Save time by saying "not muh Riddler" next time

>>93355991
it would help if the joks/riddles they have put in their mouths weren't some basic worn-out not remotely clever/funny stuff

also it would help if I could see amy schumer lookalike among the pile of comedians' corpses

>>93355763
nice, detective riddler is back

>>93355893
he is already more than just a knife wielding psycho, and riddler has murdered people before dude.

>>93355979

It's better than telling her how your shit day went at the office I suppose

>>93355991
>>93355837
I think this supposed to be the last story of one of the three. He's just going on a killing spree because he can't find anything funny. Last page of the event will probs be the introduction of the Metal/Snyder joker

>>93356024
It's a hamfisted and shitty Riddler fit for a shitty run.

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>>93356085

>>93355856
wait howd he survive?

>>93356083
except this is a flashback arc to years ago and all of them are alive in the present

>>93355799
I'm 90% sure that guards at high security facilities are told to not reveal personal stuff to the inmates...

>>93356187
WOW, so you are saying that guard did something ILLEGAL in exchange for a huge amount of money??? I'm 90% sure that would never happen in real life!

>>93355858
This could have work... for someone like Wilson Fisk

>>93356216
I could see it working for penguin

>>93356216
Fisk would just buy the guards themselves.
Also what were these guards even afraid off?
>oh noes, that crazy man with no money or power knows the names of our daughters! better let him walk freely
This has to be the worst "breakout" in comic history

>>93356010
He kept the fucking city on lockdown and killed anyone that couldn't answer his riddles

>>93356250
He does have power though, you really can say "I know for a fact that this guy who has broken out of here and has run many gangs with other members that aren't currently in jail has no way of getting to my family?"

>>93356312
Who let the commisioner in?

>>93355845
In all honesty, I'm surprised he didn't see this coming.

>>93355870
So she said yes. I doubt they would go have sex after turning down his marriage.

>>93355870

"Bruce, I just asked if you wanted a blow job, for fuck's sake."

>>93355870
So this is his bed talk, he always tells stories of his many adventures after the sex???

>>93356262
So his usual mo?

>>93356347
yes

>>93356271
So? DId they really think he had all of their families hostage at this exact moment?
Just knock him out and call the poilice/fbi or whoever is capable of sending men to your home and check pn your family

>>93355870
What the fuck is he even talking about here? I really wish King would stop writing Batman cause he has no idea what he is doing. Batman sounds like a fucking sociopath here especially given the circumstance.

>>93356373
he's sounded like a sociopath the whole run

I like the idea of Joker desperate to get out of a downturn in his "comedy" and trying to find just the right joke to get him inspired again.

Can we all agree now that King is a hack that shouldn't have been put in charge of the main Bat book? The guy wrote one decent book and suddenly he's the next big thing? Nah. He's proving he isn't that good.

Flashback arc? yeah...the stakes must be high if everything is back to normal in the end!

>>93355842
Gay vibes are strong here

Christ Riddler, button up.

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>>93356347
...is that not what you do after sex?

>>93356401
but muh books about terrorists with shitty art

>>93356404
he's gayer than gotham riddler

>>93356372
you clearly don't have a family. You don't treat supervillians like common thugs

>>93356401

/co/ hasn't liked a Batman book since Morrison stopped writing him. Stop sucking his cock just because he was the first Batman writer you ever read, Snyder and King are both good.

>>93356401
>one decent book
Which one is that?

>>93356425
/co/ wasn't even that big a Morrison fan at the time.

>>93356425
I haven't liked batman since before morrison. he went to shit with batgod

>>93356426
grayson

>>93355850
/k/ tism triggered

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>>93356443
>grayson
Of you wanted to go full fedora, you should've said the vertigo short he did in science anthology.

>>93356425
Snyder was good, King isn't. He has good ideas but he needs an editor. He writes Batman with Vision's voice, his shipping/feminist crap is out of hand with Catwoman being the most competent character in the run so far. His repetition is just obnoxious here and the art for the most part has been shit.

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>>93356448
Oh Jesus Tom King have me laughing at the state of my favorite character.

I hate this art, remember when Janin using models wasn't THAT obvious?

God what a fucking shit story. Wasting that level of Art. What a fucking stupid descion.

Those guards should have just riddled riddler with fucking bullets. Joker should have been fucking shot by those cops.

God I fucking don't give a shit about Batman anymore. His bad guys are just so fucking edgy, anybody that isn't Batman or his rogue gallery is a mouth breathing retard and just so much wankery.

>>93355755
>>93355760
You'd think that this guy here would act a little more scared or nervous. Or better yet, try and make a run for it, because if I just saw a dozen people get killed by the Joker for not being funny enough, I'd know I wouldn't stand a chance either so I might as well try and get away.

>>93356471
How is Grayson the "fedora" answer?

>>93356120
either luck, or he figured the Joker might say no and cap him so he had some fake-out death planned. He doesn't seem to have an exit wound which is impossible given the revolver and the distance. So I'm saying fakeout.

>>93355782
Are those cops blind and deaf?

>>93356344
Kek

>>93356515
I think they're focused on the explosion and dead cops that were sent into the building

>>93355808
Seriously, why would ANYONE ever work for the Joker?

>>93355819
this is some premium /a/ behaviour desu

>>93355815
>>93355820
oh ffs that one was bad

>>93355815
>>93355820
How did Riddler know the Joker would be here?

>>93355870
Selina said yes appereantly, good. Lets have a truly happy family Batman and Catwoman for a change.

I liked King's run except I am Bane, but for my knowledge this was the story he wanted to tell from the beginning so i high hopes for this one.

>>93355850
>>93355856
>Joker is mortally wounded
>Batman goes out of his way to save him several times, he even once let a serial killer get away in order to save him

>Riddler gets mortally wounded
>Batman leaves him to die in order to chase after the Joker

Really makes you think

>>93356596
well the Riddler did lie about there being a bomb in the building

>>93356596
Riddler riddles Bats with bomb lie.

>>93356491
What are you even talking about art looks like tracing shit and I absolutely hate it

>>93356120
there was no bomb, Eddie was betting on Batman relying on his instinct and fucking off before noticing something was off, hence the "his own nose" (you don't see it unless you want to because your brain cuts it from your visuals)

also preptime, do you thing the fucking Riddler was stupid enough to not have a backup plan in case Joker did what Joker does? it's mot likely fake ("as if he were an old sponge", I'd bet most of the blood was prepared in advance)

>>93355837
Why do they keep acting like Joker's been on the job for a long time if this is supposed to only be a year after year zero?

>>93356704
multiple jokers remember

Just a quick epiphany but don't Joker and Riddler get along relatively okay. DotF, Joker pretty much sucked Eddie' dick on him not being a shitty Batman villain and wanted him to be apart of his showcase.

Did the two just have the massive fucking war and then just decided to shoot the shit and became frenemies?

>>93356476
>snyder was good
Top kek, fuck off Scott

>>93356476
>Snyder was good,
>Court/Night of Owls was alright
>Death of the Family was alright
>Zero Year dragged on way to fucking long
>Endgame was shit
>Robobatcop was wasted

King's on par with Snyder

>>93355862
Oh, gee! Was Prime Earth's Gotham destroyed, like, EVERY single month?

>>93356748
Uh ... no???
Every arc was better than the last, hell, even his whole run is better than Morrison.
He at least gave us Duke and not another literally mini white straight cis bruce clone

>>93355870
Dayum, dat Selina.

>Bruce is back to "CAT".
Come on, King. That ruins the proposal scene's gravity.

>>93356782
do you lie because underneath all the layers of irony you lack anything resembling humanity

>>93356491
Calm the fuck down

This feels like something that would be so much better to read all at once instead of as it's released. Unfortunately I'm unable to resist bitching about it on /co/ every two weeks.

So far it's shit with a bad Riddler and bad plot devices.

>>93356448
Bruce is so goth he shits bats.

>King is capable of writing a smart plot
>still tries to go summer blockbuster with every arc
Same applies for Snyder Tbh.

>>93356782
>He at least gave us Duke
You see I almost believed you until I read that sentence. Duke is just a black Tim Drake. The only thing that I enjoy about him is that he had a cool fucking Robin jacket

>>93355813
So Joker is suicidal enough to attempt to die in an accident but not enough to let Riddler just have Batman (because Riddler has to outsmart both even if they become dumber as a consequence) even though how and if Batman dies doesn't really affect how Joker profits from the supposed mayhem of Gotham that Riddler described to justify his motive
He also isn't suicidal enough to just blow his head off with his gun?
>But anon, that wouldn't be funny
Well neither was any of this but he gave it a go, besides if he wanted funny he could have just
>Find circus
>Practice a slapstick routine with another clown that ends in a trapeze act
>Come the big night, jump and Joy Buzzer the clown as he catches Joker.

>>93355870
>What are we? Some kinda War of Jokes and Riddles?

>>93356725
I guess so. Maybe in the end they both realize that they don't want to kill the Batman after all, because that would be boring.

>>93356884
Because Batman is DC's most popular franchise.

Do we know how many issues this is going to be? and didn't King say something about we'll know Catwoman's answer before the end?

>>93355857

Idiot.

>>93357189
6 or 8 I believe

>>93355870
I can't believe that was it, two weeks for the next part.

Okay, place your bets, which of the three jokers is it?

And is it the metal one or not?
Honestly, if it's the KJ one I'll be pissed. That one can always laugh, that's the point.

>>93355870
>Just had sex
>Still covers her chest

Goddammit King

no wonder the number of copies sold are dropping so fast

>>93357215
8 parts https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/876984214708793344

but the solicitations are weird, #26 is supposed to be part 2, #27 part 3, #28 part 4, #29 part 5 then #30 Ballad of Kite-Man part 2 and #31 part 5 again
so Ballad of Kite-Man part 1 will have to fit somewhere in the meantime, maybe it's treated as part of the arc? so 6 core issues

btw https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/875376776729513985 is kind of an answer to >>93356120

>>93355857
>stop mid story time and upload this comic for me
cunt

>>93355799
I'm sorry, what the fuck?

>>93357268
They are?

>>93357454
Have your nurse explain it to you

>>93355793
All the names/surnames come in 3 words total? Seriously?

>>93357268
Source I'll wait

>>93356476
>Snyder was good

Back to your Joker shrine Scott.

>>93355730
Anyone else love the fuck out of this cowl?

Why do the whiney little faggots bother reading still if they have the same predictable reaction to Kings work? Fuck off.

>>93355824
Why does his face look like a chimp here?

>>93356554
didnt he solve some riddle to do with the jokers locations on a map at the start

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>>93357230

Yeah I seriously think that this is old school Joker.

It just makes sense to me. This one is too frowny and angry to be the Killing Joke!Joker and Snyder!Joker. Both of them are outrageously happy all the time and nothing really gets them down.

The way that this Joker is so seriously brutal and gun-happy(notice that the other versions are usually knife-happy) just tells me that he's probably old school gangster Joker. Not only that, but he seems to have a more mobster style of clothing here. He also has distinct scars on his face (Maybe a nod to scarface?) and has an old school mobster type of hairstyle with a greasy slickback.

Remember as well that so far we've had stories already of the Killing Joke!Joker(Death of the family) and Snyder!Joker(Endgame), so it makes sense that we've finally got a story about old school Joker.

>>93356772
Haven't you heard, that's the only kind of Batman story we're allowed to tell anymore.

This run is everything you should have expected from a Dickfag writing the main bat book

>>93355870
>Cat

Stop

>>93356323
he probably is faking lol

>>93356024
>This isn't your grandpa's riddler, now he's edgy!

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>>93355770
>not stabwounds in the stomach or chest

I mean, you don't have to get all gory, but splash some blood on it at least!!

>>93356425
So if you don't like two runs, then you must never be satisfied? There are plenty of Batman runs I love, but these aren't among them. Hell, King co-wrote Grayson and I loved that; it's part of the reason I was excited for this book.

>>93356748
>alright
Which is more than I can say about King's run
>I Am Gotham was alright
>I Am Suicide was shit
>Rooftops was shit
>I am Bane was diarrhea
>Brave and The Mold was good
>#24 was shit
>The Button was garbage
>Monster Men was shit

>>93357677
>I missed the last 20 years of comics.

It shows.

>>93355808
Killing someone over a dad joke. My kind of Joker.

>>93356508
He doesn't have an actual argument, I'm just surprised he didn't say it's reddit. That being said, Vision might have been better than Grayson.

>>93357677
>NOT MUHH!!!
Pathetic.

>>93357264
That's the law here in America. All women are required to cover their tits at all times in case someone might be watching

>>93357733
The last time Riddler was written well was in Dini's comics; 8 years ago.

>>93357737
Vision actually is the "fedora" answer.

>>93356476
>snyder
>was
>good
lol

>>93355870
So what did he do that's so horrible?

>>93357610
but Snyder!Joker is the same in DotF and Endgame iirc
he fell into Dionesium, acted as Eric Border preparing for Endgame, then got cured along with Bruce during Superheavy

also, apparently Metal won't touch on it:
>Geoff was great about walking us through what the plan is for upcoming “Three Jokers” storyline and giving us the breathing room for what we wanted to do. Just to be clear to readers, this is not going to answer the “Three Jokers” question. That’s really for Geoff — he has a big story planned for that — but what it will do is show us the way that The Joker, like he did during my entire time on Batman, is always there as the Greek chorus of the book, saying to Batman, in one way or another, “You’re doing it wrong” or, “You’re doing it right.” “This is what needs to happen. This is who you are.”

>>93357778
It's true though

>>93357789
I love Geoff Johns. he sets up a million different things, holds them off for himself and then never delivers on any of them. He is a master storyteller.

>>93357789
Shouldn't Joker have been cured the first time he fell into the dionesium?

>>93355793
>>93355799
So not a single one of them felt so threatened that their finger just twitched?

I guess retarded shit like this is par for the course when it comes to a batman story

This is going to affect nothing, isn't it?

>>93357795
>everyone does page long monologues
>good

>completely wasted a great artist
>good

>appalling fanboyism and memes
>good

>>93357753
and yet it was always a valid argument when Snyder was writing

>>93357838
>meme reply
>good
Try again and articulate your points better. He writes monologues, yes but so does 90% of current writers at the big 2. Difference is, Snyder has a background in prose and can actually write them well.

So what terrible thing has Batman done that is so wrong? Considering this is King it will probably be something that goes against Batman usual characterization.

>>93355986
>the smartest psycho in Gotham knows all our family member names
>killing him won't stop whatever plan he has in store

>>93357880
youre a top pleb if you think snyder's prose is anything but terrible

>dude cities, gotham, im batman in gotham, gothams a place, people live here, some do crimes, i stop the crimes, because i am batman I AM in gotham

>>93355991
>Stop turning Joker and Riddler into just "killers who joke or riddle or whatever".
That's exactly who they are tho.

>>93357902
He learnt them in prison. He has nobody on the outside. Who would listen to such a retard

Also what is
>Childless Cops
>Cops who don't want to be fired and Blackballed
>Cops already hurt by these wackjobs and want to kill them
>witness protection

>>93357838
also le gay joker was possibly the worst thing i have ever read

>>93356347
I would.

>>93355888
>gang war
>villains takes sides
Didnt this already happen on that one time Batman forgot who he was?

>>93356401
>Can we all agree now that King is a hack
No, if you want to call him a hack fine but don't say we.

King won't stop until every member of the Rogue's Gallery and Bat-Family is a suicidal edge-lord. One more time for the cheap seats: King is a complete hack and was never even close to the hype surrounding him let alone a good writer.

>>93357795
He IS good now, All Star is a fantastic leap in the right direction for Snyder.

His old stuff wasn't bad, just really fucking mediocre.

>>93355862
>Mr. Freeze vs Poison Ivy
Freeze should win due to elemental advantage and the fact that his suit protects him from poison.

>Mad Hatter vs Scarecrow
Could go either way, maybe the Hatter put a chip in Scarecrow's hat and that's why the Scarecrow doesn't wear a hat anymore?

>Two-Face vs Ventriloquist
Two-Face should win, he's a much better fighter

>Deadshot vs Deathstroke
Deathstroke should win, no contest

>Penguin vs Firefly
I'd say that Firefly should win, but Penguin has popularity power on his side

>Solomon Grundy vs Killer Croc
Normally I'd say Grundy would win, but it's clear that Rebirth Grundy isn't as strong as pre-New 52 Grundy, could go either way.

>Clayface vs Man-Bat
Clayface is stronger and I don't know how Man-Bat can hurt him, but Man-Bat has mobility and flight on his side, so Clayface would have a hard time hurting him too.

>>93357677
Thebriddler was always edgy, that Neil Gaiman got the character wrong and incidentally set the idea that the riddler is somehow a more lighter and softer villain.

>>93357953
>He has nobody on the outside.
You can't say that for certain, he learned the family member names somehow right?

>>93357812
the first one was a Lazarus Pit iirc, the only pure one was in his spine
then again Endgame was fucking weird so I don't think even Snyder knows

>>93358050
Because one of the other guards talked to get betting odds. At least pretend to read the issue man.

Even so it doesn't negate the rest. Just because a terrorist says shit, it doesn't mean he actually can.

>>93355770

REMEMBER THAT TIME RIDDLER WAS HORRIFIED WHEN JOKER WAS KILLING PEOPLE

>>93358075
>Because one of the other guards talked to get betting odds
They don't know that

>>93357995
>>Deadshot vs Deathstroke
King is going to ruing Slade and regress him back to the shitty no personality muhh money crap that he was, isn't he?

>>93356347
Bruce being a self absorbed ass hat who's too busy being wrapped up in his own problems to act normally? Wow that's never happened before.

>>93357995
It seems a bit more like a free for all between Grundy, ManBat, Croc and Clayface

>>93358133
did he write Slade before? I think as an ex-CIA he might have something neat to write with him
that or he'll just be a cameo

>>93358133
To be fair, this is a flashback

>>93358186
The fact that he's having him joining this retarded War is bad enough. And airing him off with Deadshot in a fight is also stupid
>HURR THEY BOTH USE GUNZ

>>93358212
And?

>>93358014
everybody has written Riddler softer after Gaiman

>>93358215
>a solider of fortune
>not being used in gang warfare

>>93357880
he threw Joker into that vat of chemicals probably.

>>93358233
No, not necessarily. You still had edgy riddler popping up in stories all over the place. The only thing different here is that now people think the Riddler doesn't kill.

>>93357883
he threw Joker into that vat of chemicals probably

>>93358251
>>a solider of fortune
Thanks for confirming that he's gonna get him wrong.

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>Riddler and Joker are super autistic and only speak in riddles and jokes
>Batman is still calling selina, Cat
Why is King so shit and why is the dialog so fucking silly?

>>93358319
That's literally what a mercenary is.

>>93358273
Riddler was never really a "killer" though. Certainly never like this. He never murdered people violently with a shiv for no real reason.

>>93358273
examples? edgy riddler could be interesting

>>93358332
>Joker and riddler telling jokes and riddles
>KIG CONFIRMED FOR HACK

>>93358340
It wasn't for no reason, he did it to escape.

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>>93357783
Unless Batman murdered someone I don't see what he could have done that is any worse than all the awful shit he has done in the past.

Why a minute. Murder is not the only known awful crime that makes people look at you differently. Did he finally do it? Will we see it? Will King make Batman do what he should have done years ago to the Joker?

>>93358338
It' not who Slade is.

>>93358357
Doing it all the time is stupid.

>>93358357
>Riddler brutally stabbing a man 26 times
>Joker murdering police officers in broad daylight with zero consequences
>KING CONFIRMED FOR BEST AUTHOR OF ALL TIME

Boilerplate riddles terrible jokes and letter counting don't make bad writing suddenly good

>>93358444
It's literally what he does.

>>93358378
No he didn't. He was in a interrogation room. There would have been people watching him. The escape was later.

>>93357783
>>93358433
Trap joker in his batcave, like a battered housewife

>>93358471
Nope.

>>93358433
I love Bullock's expression whenever this image is posted. I don't even know what the original context is, it just works perfectly with this meme.

>>93358482

Looks like 2 different Jokers, no? I'll have to go back to Forge.

>>93355730
This is a cool concept but it would work better in a Silver Age story.

>>93355755
>>93355760
>>93355770
Yep. Just as expected. Why are writers so lazy nowadays?

>>93357495
Like, how it usually works? First name, middle name, last name?

>>93358474
>he didn't
He did, follow the chain of events.
>>93355770 walks out of the interrogation room >>93355789 and into the guards.

>>93358474
Yes he did, you're being willfully ignorant here.
>he killed the detective cause he knew the joker's plan and needed to escape.
That's literally the only way you could read that.

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>>93358465
That's how most Batman villains are written these days. Have them slaughter countless people for the lolz with gimmicky tricks with no motivation or explanation why they do so.

>>93358564
>That's how most Batman villains are written
Ftfy

>>93358578
bait, Zszass was the only one with a big killer count and that was set him apart from the others
now everyone is just like him but worse

>>93355793
>>93355799
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?

>>93358564
>no motivation or explanation why they do so.
They straight out explain the motives here.>>93355837

>>93355781
>>93355800
If a riddle is unsolvable can it really be considered a riddle? There is no "ultimate riddle." Once you solve the one you think is best, your job is to make more.

>depressed joker
Who thought this was a good idea

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>batman is a riddle I can't solve
>literally tricks him the next few pages

>>93358564
That's how they were created. Just because for several years some memey tv show had them all as harmless clowns doesn't mean that's the standard.

>>93355824
IT'S JOHN CENA!
DUN DUN DUN DUN

>>93355842
Poor Joker..

>>93358482
Didn't Batman do that in one story? I remember him building like a brick cage or something

>>93358945
Yeah the standard is stabbing people 26 times.

>>93358737
He's the Riddler not the Trickster.

>>93355793
Not a single one of them has a son, eh? Must be something in the water

>>93359456
All the boys were stolen by Batman in his quest to find his Robin

Anyone not enjoying Kings run is a pissant who should stick to reading squirrel girl.

>>93358945
Might as well let Batman pick up the guns again. The villains feel the same, you can't distinguish between them. One tells a shitty riddle, the other an unfunny joke and they both commit the same kind of atrocities again and again.

>>93355824
3D poser art is a cancer.

>>93355991
yeah. how are these assholes still alive? ffs.

>>93355770
Wait... what? I find this confusing.

>>93356083
Snyder said in an interview that the 3 Jokers garbage is gong to be Written by Geoff Johns next year.

>>93355870
Meanwhile what Selina is thinking
>Bruce for fuck's sake stop talking about Joker in bed

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>>93357864

>>93359761
kek

>>93355870

>Actually calls it the war of jokes and riddles

They need to stop doing this, it's fucking awful.

>>93359667
Which part?
Where he got the shiv? Who knows.
Why he's attacking the guy? He says later he had to urgently speak with Joker to stop him from killing Batman even though when Batman arrives Joker just leaves. Though I'm sure we can bluff that Riddler knew Joker wouldn't kill Batman and doesn't want to kill Batman either and actually just wanted to start a conflict between the three to give himself something to do.
Why he played whac-a-mole with the guy's body? Because King says Bruce says Riddler said he had something to say, something to spell out. Through stabbing, not like carving letters into the desk or something more rational than a number of stabbings, so that's what we're getting. 26 stab wounds.

Is there anything else you need help with before I go out to buy cyanide pills to switch for King's meds?

Hot take here, I liked it. Riddler cutting the guy 26 was unnecessarily edgy, but apart from that I didn't mind his characterization. He doesn't murder anyone else, his riddles actually fit the situation (sorta reminds me of Fargo the tv show, where the characters often offer parables that seem a little bit stilted but thematically fitting) and the scene with the guards is totally understandable to me (the only bit that stretches my imagination is that they all had daughters, but I guess it could also be wives or mothers).

>>93359858
>even though when Batman arrives Joker just leaves
Joker says that the plan might not work now, because Riddler's there. That's why he leaves.

>>93359503

Yeah, I don't really get what's up with making all of Batman's villains into genocidal maniacs. It's actually really weird because Superman's own rogue gallery has progressed into each of their own unique being, while a lot of Batman's rogue galley has regressed into typical Zsasz-like serial killers.

I mean, I get that they're supposed to be insane, but I wish they were more insane rather than just callous murderers with a weird quirk.

>>93359920
you can blame Morrison
Snyder tried to fix it but people here hated him for that

>>93359920
The problem is that the only alternative seems to be making them sympathetic and redeeming them, which is also lame.

>>93355799
This is stupid. There has to be at least one single guard.

>>93355824
>>93355832
Not going to lie, I hated the comic but loved this part.
>>93355837
This was a little iffy but I could believe it. Problem is the setup, but I know how hard it is to get to the cool moment. In fact, I'd say most stories are written with the cool moment in mind and working backwards from that.

>>93360024
Sad thing is King could have done something to show Riddler isn't entirely all knowing and powerful but still effective by having the other guards turn on the one or two out of fear who could jeopardize harm to their family.
Sort of like in TDK with the cop. This also reminds me of an issue of Detective Comics where Joker starts detailing the history of some guy's relative or something and he goes nuts trying to find out how he knows and makes contact with him and that spreads some kind of Joker virus and bla bla bla you know the deal.

It's all just as hammy, but at the very least with the rigid dice approach it wouldn't look like the situation is completely contrived to Riddler's convenience. Other guards he knew nothing about and had no control of showed up but he had enough leverage so it would sort itself out in his favor.

Also that Black Cat remark wasn't a riddle, it's bad luck to see any color of cat when you're a mouse. There's no trick answer there. Shit, if you saw a feral black cat with diseases it's bad luck if it might lunge at you. In fact the mouse answer if anything is a joke.

WHERE'S THE RIDDLE, NIGMA?

>>93355770
>the detective was riddled with knife wounds
brilliant

>>93355799
I mean, fuck, I'm not letting this one go.
He could have at least said
>When is it bad luck to cross a Black Cat at night?
>When you're a nearsighted mouse

>>93359995
Morrison had edgy joker, but he wrote him in such a way that makes it clear that it was a special case and only temporary. It's not his fault DC decided to turn up the edge to 11 by literally cutting off his face and run with it.

>>93360023
I'm amazed so many people have a problem with villains being villains.

>>93360314
The problem seems to be villains having no variety in villainy.

>>93360329
I for one am excited for Batman's new rogue's gallery of Zsasz, clown Zsasz, riddle Zsasz, tuxedo Zsasz, and Deadpool with boobs.

>>93355799
Dropped

>>93355808
I like this Joker.

>>93360243
> that makes it clear that it was a special case and only temporary

That is completely wrong. Morrison made it impossible to reconcile the Joker in his series with the one in Dini's Detective that was running concurrently due to the largely bullet wound in the first issue he got from one of Hurt's Batman.

>>93355730
Why does everyone in this comic talk like they suffer from a mental illness? Oh, wait.

>>93356596
Batman loves Joker

>>93360570
That's kind of just a lack of synergy between series, not sure how it contradicts the fact that it wasn't meant to be permanent

>>93355789
>>93355793
>>93355799


Jesus christ this is so fucking stupid.

What the fuck is King doing? I am reading this book because after Vision, Omega Men and Sheriff I thought that King was the ANTIDOTE to this kind of kind of garbage.

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>>93360835
>I am reading this book because...I thought that King was the ANTIDOTE to this kind of kind of garbage.

Riddler is literally me. Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.

>>93360243
Morrison turned everyone into a killer while introducing even more fucked criminals like Pyg.
He is the one that came up with the idea of the Joker virus infecting Gotham, satanism etc.

>>93355746
People that hate Sale's art and covers are the problem with big 2 comics. I bet they LOVED Janin's soulless garbage this issue.

>>93356348
>Snyder was my first Batman
>the post

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>>93360966

You're 100% right although Sale needs to go back to inking his own stuff and flat coloring.

>>93360897
And he also gave us Oberon Sexton, Dick and Damian, Batman of all eras, and Batman Incorporated. He understood that while raising the stakes with violence and darkness is effective storytelling, that's not all there is to comics.

>>93358578
>snyder was my first batman
>the sequel post

>>93357904
Alright, try that again, but this time, without memes.

>>93361032
I do agree with that. I think the big problem is he's great, especially on Bats, with dark tones. Bright colors and pastels worked for his Superman.

A lot of these Bats covers have been pastel and bright which I don't think compliments his style as well for batman.

Just sucks knowing it's coming to an end (we got like, what, 26 by the end of his run?) and it's been bi-weekly Snyder-fags complaining about his covers.

>>93361036
>he also gave use those negative things!
Yeah I know, truly a terrible time for Batman fans

>>93355885
Explain how it isnt? It looks fucking great

THIS JUST IN, /co/ HAS BECOME TOO AUTISTIC FOR COMIC BOOKS

>>93356083
Snyder said the one in the batcave is another Joker.

Geoff also said the Joker in metal Joker was raped so hard by Batman he had no option but to rehabilitate himself. He now works for Batman inside the Batcave.

With that Joker not smiling or laughing while killing people, and this Riddler killing people with subtle jokes, it's almost is if they are about to trade places. Riddler is doing more smiling in the panels, and Joker is trying to solve the reason he can't laugh.

They just need to trade places for a bit.

>>93355837
I like this Riddler design. It looks like if Gorshin started doing weights.

Im not sure if I like the serious All Star Joker

>>93355862
>Burton's Penguin
Nice

>>93361099
I know thank God we have a suicidal Batman around now.

>>93355870
Is this Bruce's idea of foreplay?

>>93355842
It's simple. We kill the Batman.

>>93357610
Yeah it's probably Golden Age Joker. Wants Batman dead instead of being gay for him. He seems more like a brooder and killer too.

>>93355870

>What I had to do...during the War of Jokes and Riddles™

>>93355862
Isn't Clayface a batfag now?

>>93361753
Why do people get so triggered by this? It's a name for the event, like "Zero Year", or for a real life example "The War to End All Wars" or "the Great War".
>>93361769
Yes. This takes place in the past.

>>93355870
>after all that time, Cat, I finally fought in DC Comics Presents: DC Rebirth: Batman - The War of Jokes and Riddles by Tom King
BRAVO

>>93358102
Shut up Neil GAYman

>>93355856
>I won't kill you but I won't save you

>>93360835
>kind of kind of
Virginia, get off the Internet

>>93356401
Ah yes, another case of the Batman curse.
God forbid anyone to write Batman
He's average. His run so far is somewhat of a disappointment, but I am hopeful for this arc

>>93361659
I'd rather have that than Dicbats meme or having the comic being bloated with 50 bat-family characters

>>93360792
Not him but cause Detective comics and Morrison's batman had so different Jokers the continuity sank, in the beginning Dini tried changing his joker looks when it was obvious Morrison and him where working in different dimensions so Dini did references to things where happening in batman but then DC said Batman was in a different time, future what was impossible because of the references

>>93362259
Batman and Robin is the best Bat-related title of the past decade and it's not even close

>>93355820
I don't understand this riddle. Can some to intelligent people explain it to me please?

>>93355770
>people think King is a good writer

>>93362443
t. Dickfag who doesn't know shit about Batman comics

>>93356083
>>93361354

But there's the normal Joker talking to Bruce during the Bloom arc. Did he turn into the Joker again? Did Bruce kidnap him and mindraped him in the Batcave?

>>93362450
You being serious?
The visitor thinks the "solution" is to divide the number said by two, but it's really the number of letters in the word said.
Twelve is six letters, six is three letters, ten is three not five.

>>93362485
t. Started reading comics with the New 52

Tell us more about the bloated Bat-family, with special emphasis on Duke Thomas, Harper Row, and Gotham Girl.

>>93357783
BAT OF MURDER
MARTHAAAAAAAAAAA

>>93356120
survival was probably from a bullet proof vest and a blood pack. Riddler was looking rather chunky throughout the entire issue. it wouldn't really be all that difficult to hide such a vest.

and yes, a vest will stop .45 (even long colt) at that range. its actually further away than the inventor shot himself at to prove it works.

>>93359667
Don't worry, Tom King's cluttered shit writing is really deep. You will totes understand it. It has nothing to do with him being unnecessarily cluttered.

>>93355730
40 pages deluxe edition = Aquaman preview. Bullshit.

>>93360128

It's a lateral riddle.

With that being said yeah, this shit was convoluted.

>>93362515
>Duke Thomas, Harper Row, and Gotham Girl.
you mean characters we don't even see?

>>93363047
Except for every other issue?

>>93359920
>zsasz
Zsasz hasn't even been written like actual Zsasz since the end of the 90's

>>93357810
I fucking hate that about him. We'll also never get a follow up on Diana having a twin brother I'm sure.

>>93356401
He's been getting better and better with each Volume. The only issue he has is just like Snyder he has a hard time closing a story so it either feels rushed or cheap.

>>93362511
Thanks anon. I can't help but be stupid.

I am really confused about why people are going "Ridder is a brutal serial killer on par with Zsasz" when the fucker took 26 stabs to kill someone.

>>93357953
>implying eddy didn't know exactly which guards were on duty when he stabbed the first guy

Do you even riddler?

>>93363368
yeah, that's the thing whose were 26 stabs.

Bat: The best part about King writing Batman?

Cat: The best?

Bat: Yes Cat, the very best.

Cat: Okay..I mean sure.

Bat: The best part is people are seeing what an overrated pile of shit he is.

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Riddler assaulted a guard with his bed pan once. He'll do anything to escape when he wants to.

>>93363544
Yeah, but it's explained that he deliberately stabbed him 26 times because there're 26 letters in the alphabet. It's some kind of obtuse clue left by the Riddler for later, not just a bit of the old ultra-violence.

>>93355977
Nightwing iirc, some sorta conspiracy shit

>>93355977
Metalpreview, Dark Forge

>>93363633
I just want to point out that's a really fucking stupid "riddle"

>>93363158
What do you mean?

Tanks Norrin

>>93355870
Is no one gonna mention how fuck weird Bruce/Batman's jaw looks on this page? It's absurdly massive, this art better improve

>>93355799
They would have just killed him. No jury would convict under these circumstances.

>>93355808
So apparently were getting a well written Joker and a shitty Riddler.

>>93365013
Batman wouldn't like it if someone hurt one of his boytoys though.

>>93365036
This is well written? So far he's just been killing people and mumbling to himself.

>>93365125
I was referring specifically to the shooting the driver over a joke.

>>93355730

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>>93355832
Neat.

>>93356505
if he runs, he definitely dies

if he stays, there's a chance he lives, however small

rather simple choice

>>93355755
>>93355760
I like this scene, but not in the context. When I first started reading it I thought they were auditioning to be henchmen.

>>93355824
>>93355832
Great pages, although I would have liked it more if they lined up for a four page spread.

>>93366814
Yeah, bad context, joker trying to laught again has been a childish plot many times before, it's like they want to turn an old joke into a serious plot

>>93356505
I think this is also supposed to be a statement about stand-up comics still getting up on stage even if they know the crowd is rough or that they don't have the "stuff".

King irks me sometimes but I actually appreciated the idea there. Intentional or not. And I tend to think it is considering Joker's current dilemma and also possibly as a nod/playing with the idea that he himself getting on stage every night in his TKJ backstory and getting "killed" by the crowd for his shitty performances.

Has a "Joker has writer's block" story ever been done before?

>>93355782
Is he referring to the capullo shot of bat basking in the dawn??

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>>93355857
>Hating on Norrin
I'm legitimately triggered.

>>93363215
>We'll also never get a follow up on Diana having a twin brother I'm sure.

It will be part of the next arcs after Rucka leaves. Grail will also return.