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Seriously though, if Marten was the transgender and Claire was a man, Tumblr would want to burn this comic down right now.
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>>93353235
>If [...] Claire was a man
>if
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>>93353235

I love how "tech bro" is just a casual thing to Jeph. Like he's so removed from reality and everything is so problematic to him that even people who work with computers all day are just rando dudebros compared to his virtuous numale self.

You can work with machines and be well adjusted, but to imply that the stereotype is somehow just a budwieser chugging brochacho is ridiculous.
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septum piercings for everyone
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>>93353235

>Marten should feel bad about a consensual relationship he engaged in that ended because the girl was a whore who wanted a fling before she moved
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>>93353235
who's fucking bar is this?
why dont they go to the bar where lord british works at? i like that guy
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SILENCE! The cunt concerto is about to begin!
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>>93353448
>Like he's so removed from reality and everything is so problematic to him that even people who work with computers all day are just rando dudebros
Him and his ilk think computer programmers are raging sexists and toxic masculinity infused rich jocks for some reason. All programmers I know are married with kids who make decent money, but are far from rich. They're just nerds, but for some reason SJWs are insanely triggered by nerds.
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>>93353585

...I like that guy too. Unfortunately, depicting a male acting with any self awareness or masculinity is...disgusting. Elliot's supposed to be a big guy, but he rounds him as much as possible so he at best looks kinda fat and at worse looks like a HAES guy.
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>>93353235
Who's padma again?
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>>93353620
black dora
i dont remember anything else about her
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>>93353633
Probably because there really wasn't anything else to her.
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>>93353593

They work with computers, and you make video games with computers, so obviously every single one of them is a gamergater
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>>93353235
Who the fuck was Padma again? Was that black Faye?
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Wait a minute, how the fuck long was she gone before she got engaged?

I mean, shit, aren't you supposed to date for like a year or five before you marry?
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>>93353660
black faye is standing right there
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>>93353235

God dammit why can't Marten show even the tiniest bit of spine ever. I know I shouldn't care about this but it makes me mad. There was a point in my life as a dumbass teen where I genuinely liked these characters and seeing what they've become is painful.

If I went somewhere with my SO and some moron started blabbing about my past relationships I would tell them to shut the fuck up. Seriously how is this considered socially acceptable? This septum pierced butch cunt is making every effort to embarrass him to his face about a really shitty thing that her friend did to him and the best he can manage is to stammer out an attempt to run away from the situation? How was Marten an idiot for getting rejected? Why does Claire even give a shit? How is it anybody's business? It's not even like she's interested for amusement, her facial expression indicates that she is genuinely mad at him for something that happened in a past relationship, which is fucking absurd and would be unacceptable in real life.

It's 2017 and Marten's septum-pierced trans gf, whose appearance he is not allowed to comment on or have any opinion about, is mad at him for getting rejected by a real woman before their relationship even began. And his response to this is to shrink down like a whipped bitch and not stand up for himself in any way, shape or form. This is true faggotry. I can't fucking stand this. What the fuck happened to you, Marten? I used to want to be like you.
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>>93353681
>I mean, shit, aren't you supposed to date for like a year or five before you marry?
There was a time-skip implied when Faye first started working on robots.
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>>93353725

More importantly, if my girlfriend assumed 'he was a real idiot about it' means 'I was 100% at fault', I'd be like 'whoa, lady, can we play by play every mistake you made'?
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>>93353235
how long has it even been since we last saw black faye? I forgot she was even in the comic
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>>93353448
That's quite a few conclusions you jumped to there.
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>>93353235
I still don't understand why it is a "thing" for transgender people to get nose rings.
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>>93353235
what?His previous relationships are not her business,also why this comic make it sounds like he did something wrong?
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>>93353776
Have you SEEN Jeph? He's one of those people who thinks the more they disfigure themselves, the cooler they look.
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>>93353776
draw the eye away from their adam's apple
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>>93353235
>Some good Marten faces in this one
Did he put this in himself? How big does your ego have to be to praise your own art?
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>>93353725
It feels like its turning into Sinfest-lite.
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>>93353725
5/5
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>>93353235
Is it some sort of law that at least one annoying twat with that stupid ass faux-hawk haircut has to show up in every strip?
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>>93353972

That it be.
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>>93353725
Yeah, this situation is very unfair. I kind of wouldn't be surprised if the tranny dumps Marten over this, since the characters in this comic tend to be petty about silly shit.
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>>93353776
transgender people are more likely to feel alienated from their body and thus more okay with going overboard with body modification

granted usually its a thing you do BEFORE you start presenting as your identified gender, like a mini-rebellion against your body, but sometimes I guess that alienation is just so deeply ingrained it persists afterwards
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>>93354212
Marten gets dumped, he's still got a backup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bU8z49X6I
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>>93353235
has anyone predicted that the autistic chick the buff dude and the cyborg are gonna be the comic's first poly relationship (maybe throw in black faye too)

even though realistically those three characters (two of whom we know are romantically inexperienced, one of whom has an actual social disorder) would be the worst candidates for that type of relationship, jacques will end of trapping himself like he did with claire because if the relationship ever falters or god forbid fails it'll look like a condemnation of that type of relationship in general
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>>93354334

You are probably fucking right and I hate it.
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>>93354285
That sounds suspiciously similar to transhumanism.

Listen, if I can augment my body to fire a missile out of my arm, you can bet I'll do it.
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>>93354334
Oh jesus fuck, please no

The only reason I even read this piece of shit anymore is for the sexual tension between Faye and Bubbles and whatever that skeevy robot chick is up to
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>>93353235

So, is Jeph finally gonna send this hugbox relationship to the shitter, or is this gonna be "resolved" by Thursday cause the cuntboy doesn't know how to stick to a script?
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>>93354440
I only read it for the brief glimpses we get of best girl, Hannelore.
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>>93354459

He has to get rid of the last vestige of the old QC where everyone wasn't a SJW fantasy sue, right?
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>>93353235

This is seriously some top tier bullshit.
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>>93353235
>IMO
do people really say this out loud?
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>>93354515
>spoiler
You are my nigga
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>>93353235
Give it 2 days.
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>>93354595
I use desu but I've never heard anyone say imo
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>>93353684
There can be more than one. Jeph's only got like four basic character types.
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>>93354459
If they don't break up, then there will be more unnecessary drama.

That's what I'm assuming. I'm getting bad vibes from today's strip.
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>>93353235
>oh, you weren't always a tranny fetishist?
Feel lucky to have him, you freak.
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>>93353681
Isn't she Indian? They can get engaged before they even meet the person.
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>>93354515
I only read it for the inevitable R34
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>>93354595
in which one of those awful comics Jeph shows up?
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>>93354628
Maybe there's a black Claire elsewhere in the bar to hook up with one or the other after a dumping occurs.
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>>93354285
>>93353799
Isn't one of the reasons people like body modifications like tattoos and piercings because they like the endorphin rush? I'm not gonna go find it, but I seem to recall a series of strips where Claire was terrified to get her ears pierced for the first time, then right after she did it she described a pleasant tingly sensation, and instantly acted addicted and insisted she wanted more holes poked in her. Then some strips later she got the septum ring.
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>>93354334
I-I'm sorry guys. That sounds hot and I'd like to see it. OT3s are my favorite kind of ships.
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>>93354744
I can't think of many ships that are "OT3s" as you call them.
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>>93354718

That's why I like to modify my body in the way that is probably the smartest: by working out at the gym.

Hell of a rush.
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>>93354665
The Eva vibrator review. But only for that one little aside while Erica is figuring out the difference between labia and labium and a scientist conveniently shows up to help talk about female genitalia.
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>>93354750
Me neither. Which is why I'd like to see more.
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>>93354809
thank you
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>>93353580
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>>93354533

Or he snapped and just wants to get rid of Claire by washing his hands of it since Canuckle Science won't turn him into a girl.....
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>>93354750
Well its rare that a dynamic lends itself to that. The best I would say is like Tim/ Steff/ Cass where all three care for the other two in a deep way. Enough that them coming to some compromise is believable.
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>>93353235
Way to go, Jeph
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>>93354621
>I use desu
Weeb detected.
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>>93354212
honestly, we can only hope.

Honestly, Martin may not be the perfect person, but he sure as hell doesn't deserve the amount of fucking over he has constantly been getting.

I hope the tranny dumps him, and then maybe he can actually find a decent girl or something and won't have to keep putting up with all the shit (and dick).
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>>93354964
I think he meant t-b-h and it 4chan just switched it to desu
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>>93354983
I know, but I can't resist an opportunity to make fun of someone.
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>>93354968
>I hope the tranny dumps him, and then maybe he can actually find a decent girl or something and won't have to keep putting up with all the shit (and dick).

Him dumping Dora was probably the last bit of happiness OR testosterone he had left. Shit, even Martin from those few years ago looks like a goddamn superman compared to now.
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>>93355215
Anon...Dora dumped him.
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>>93353725
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>>93354951
>panels 3 and 4
Hey non-3/4s perspective, and it's somewhat interesting. Did someone put him up to that? He doesn't usually have non-sitcom framing.
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>>93355476
And then started dating his lesbian boss. I'm surprised Jacques didn't do another therapy arc after that.
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>>93353235
What a cunt
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>>93353660
No, Indian Dora.
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>>>93353271
>>If [...] Claire was a man
>>if
>if Marten was the transgender
>if
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>>93356599
>tfw Claire will never fuck Marten's mangina
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>>93353554
Fucking hell it was so long ago in real time and the comic is so uncataloged it's hard to remember...
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>>93353554
>>93356801
So wait, does the author of this comic not even remember his own plot? What's wrong with him?
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When will Hacucks kill himself?
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>>93357294
He probably remembers, he's just using a weird value system that somehow puts Marten in the wrong. Like how Sven was a horrible person for confessing at a bad time.
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>>93357567
Ugh, fuck people who make mistakes. They are the worst.
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>>93357567
Exactly, this is just very clumsy conflict, he pulls this shit all the time. Someone says something that could be interpreted incorrectly, someone else blows it the fuck out of proportion, then depending on how Tumblr reacts he either rolls with it or both parties apologize before the end of the week.
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>>93357567
I mean at the time he had Faye recriminate Marten for being an asshole when literally all he was doing was asserting himself after being treated like shit. Like if you reversed the genders Marten would totally be in the right in the comic but Jacques's version of feminism is just meekly acquiescing to whatever the women in his life want.

Marten's is the ultimate "good guy" and it's just gotten worse and worse as the comic goes on. Like when it started with Faye rejecting him because she couldn't be in a relationship only for her to immediately get in a relationship with another guy, yeah, that's a complicated situation and if you're Marten in that situation not being resentful about it is actually a sign of strong character, but then his girlfriend broke up with him because she was jealous and paranoid in a situation that would've totally warranted HIM breaking up with HER, and then he gives permission to his fucking BOSS to immediately hook up with his ex. And that's like, no Marten, just say "nah that would be pretty fucking awkward for me" that would be a totally reasonable response. And then the shit with the girl who left town where he somehow came out the bad guy.

And now hes in a relationship with an emotionally immature child who is painfully smug in her deep understanding of relationships and for meta reasons he can never move on to a mature adult who would actually be a good match for him because that would look bad.
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>>93357794
Where does she get off on being smug when she's transgender?
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>>93353767
There is literally nothing else you can infer from such a painful attempt at a neologism as "tech bro", especially given Jeph's virtue signalling over the years. He could've said "tech nerd" or "tech geek" or even "tech freak", but he chose "tech bro". The connotations are clear.
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>>93354334
That sounds like a hell of a prediction.

I believe it.
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>>93353901
Sinfest is a goddamn train wreck. I held on for a long time in hopes of more Criminy and Fuschia strips, but clearly that dream is dead.
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>>93357844
Like the previous poster said, for meta reasons Claire can never be demonstrated as being in the wrong about something because tumblr adopted her as a pet. The absolute worst he has shown Claire to be was being pushy and gossipy and it resulted in Claire having a full blown crying meltdown when she realized she'd been naughty.
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>>93353401
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>>93358093
Tumblr isn't a monolith. Surely there must be some people criticizing her actions. What are they saying about this comic?
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>>93355215
I don't know. Marten being used as a fucktoy by am ugly, smelly hippie/stoner chick and basically getting called a faggot by her for asking about a relationship afterwards is probably a lower point. Maybe.
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>>93358717
>two wieners
>two
>two scoops
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>>93353448
I .... Think I'm witnessing #triggering happening Aca's Demon style. Don't forget to have a massive tumblr rally with your assertation and Ddos attack the website
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>>93359034

Jeph is known to block out any "criticism" of his work, even for minor stuff or legitimate gripes. I wouldn't be surprised if he has 4chan blocked on some filter.
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>>93354951
>that visible belly when she jumps
>those crazy eyes
Best girl right there. What she's up to in the story now?
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>>93361457

Absolutely nothing. Give her 7 years and she'll be a ftm transsexual robotkin in a poly relationship with every other character in the comic..
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>>93361517

She's already demiromantic; she's flirted with no one but never displayed a sexual interest.
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This is a fucking dumb comic. It was dumb, is dumb, and will continue to be dumb. Every thread about this comic is the same. The reason is because this comic is not remarkable in any way except for how dumb it is. Even if Jeph were to stop getting bukkake'd by the LGBT community for attention, this would still be a fucking dumb comic. It does not get worse. This comic was never good to begin with.

Why the fuck do I keep looking at these threads?
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>>93359891
I'M SUPPOSED TO USE TWO SCOOPS BUT I PUT IN FIVE GOTTA CONFUSE YOUR BODY RIGHT BABE?
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>>93362262

SPOILER: Many trans folks hate Claire.
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>>93363923

Explain.
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>>93365159
Not him, and I don't happen to know any trans people that have weighed in with opinions on Claire, but I'd imagine that they'd take offense to Jeph doing what amounts to pic related as being a representation of them.
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>>93355215
he didn't even have the balls to do that, she did it for him
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>>93365606

The risk I've always seen with a trans is that it's risky no matter what you do.

Is she suffering too much?
You hate trans, obviously!

Is she having too easy a time?
Either YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE!!!!11
or
You're writing a weak trans character, honey.
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>>93356599
>>93356740
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Their relationship has huge issues if Claire's immediate instinct is to trust and want to hear more from this girl she barely knows rather than hear Marten's side. Granted Marten is pussying out and trying to leave because...why? The girl left town, how is that his fault? This is stupid.
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>>93366387

It's stupid even for this comic, which is saying a lot.
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>>93359891
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>>93357859
"Tech bro" is pretty standard these days. Have you seen CS students? They're as bro as engineers and business students; and the corporate culture is full of these guys. That doesn't mean they're dumb or bad people. They just happen to be computer guys who go to the gym and rock climb on the weekends before drinking home brew.
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>>93366387
Claire's interest doesn't amount to anything beyond schadenfreude.
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>>93366647
Sure but you know Jeph means it pejoratively to describe the guy as a gamergater or a misogynist like all the guys at Uber who got accused of sexual harassment
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>>93353776
They want to have their junk either pulled out and reshaped into a mangled penis, or sliced and spliced up their pelvis to form a moist wound that they keep from healing properly. A nose ring is small potatoes in contrast.
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>>93366773
Bullshit. Schadenfreude is pleasure, and there is no sign of enjoyment on Claire's face at all. That is contempt.
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So why is Claire suddenly mad at Martin?

Why is she taking the fat black woman's word as 100% truth without listening to Martin's side?
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>>93369108

Because Marten's the last heterosexual white guy in the comic, and the last vestige of what tumblr surely calls the 'bad old days'.
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>>93369226

Also,
>in before Clinton
Irish people aren't actually white

>Elliot
He's going to turn out to be gay.
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>>93369226
In other words, he's the whipping boy and scapegoat.

It's still very infuriating and unfair. I bet you anything Jeph will have Claire dump Martin over this.
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>>93353235
>all those septum piercings

They keep making detecting mental illness easier every year
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>>93369452
they sure do
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>>93366387
I shouldn't be but I am salty about this too.

Especially when you consider that Martin has been a very loving, caring, accepting and overall tolerant boyfriend to Claire. Instead of recipocating that and trusting him, she's going to take a stranger's badmouthing as bona fide truth and hold that against him.

Granted Martin should have balls and stand up for himself, but you know...

Martin is there for Claire 100%, but Claire will shit all over Martin in a heartbeat.
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>>93369649

Remember, kids, equality is not having to treat cis scum fairly. As long as you have an 'ism' or '-gender' you can treat cis however you want!
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>>93369649
It is kinda shitty, but maybe it's purposefully shitty. Jeph hasn't put any sort of friction at all in their relationship, maybe this is it. Maybe Marten will even show some backbone since Claire is expecting the worst of him.
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>>93369414
>>93369574
Clair has been JJ's self insert for awhile now and Martin now represents JJ's self hatred.
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>>93371211
pretty much
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>>93371040
>maybe there's a point to this
the only points in QC are the ones that pass through JJ's palms.
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>Especially when you consider that Martin has been a very loving, caring, accepting and overall tolerant boyfriend to Claire. Instead of reciprocating that and trusting him, she's going to take a stranger's badmouthing as bona fide truth and hold that against him.

Then again, it's been known to be more than happy to insert itself into anyone relationship, for good or bad. Also it's extremely self-centered and very open to only further it's goals.
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I haven't been even half keeping up for the past 600 ~ 1000 pages, has there been any good Dale focused comics?

Or any about Dale at all?
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>>93371211
I'm actually kinda surprised he hasn't pulled the "I'm trans" lever yet, between the fem/trans supremacist stuff he's been writing for years, the body hatred his repeated self harm expresses, the alcohol abuse, the "mutual" divorce with a woman who still manages his money for him, and again that the tranny character now has the same face jangles as him.
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>>93369226
>last heterosexual white guy
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>>93371413
it's hard to validate him for being brown but punish him for being male at the same time
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>>93371413
Dale got a blue robot friend that helped him hook up with the fat chick, now they're together and rarely appear
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>>93359034
>>93360478
That reminds me, dident he make a strip basically answering peoples criticism about everyone accepting the tranny nonsense by just having the main cast shove the critic off panel?
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>>93371728
it was a guest comic, but yes
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>>93371758
Thats the one. Even if he dident draw it he chose to use it. Is that BCBs art style or just generic lazy work?
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>>93371758

Basically, instead of actually answering the critique, they just silenced a strawman critic.

Isn't that what the Soviets and the Nazis did?
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>>93371875
What really gets me is how he's not even really a strawman. Usually they're all over the top mean and "I am silly!" but Ted there comes in with such an unusually reasonable statement. "I don't understand your point of view and think we should discuss it" is such an oddly tolerant and open thing for what's treated like it's supposed to be a bigoted strawman to say. And they still treat him like shit and pat themselves on the back for it.
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>>93369108
Because Claire's a piece of shit.
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>>93372161

It was worse on the forums.

As soon as Jeph outed Claire (irony much?), the forums went into a serious lockdown mode. Mods actually banned people who wanted to learn more about transgender people.
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>>93353235
wheres the joke at? wtf is this even?
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>>93371470
And yet despite all this there's still a banality in QC and Jeph Jacques' mental hang-ups projected via his comic compared to Willis and Dumbing of Age. Like Jeph is pathetic and kind of crazy but it's all in a very boring way compared to "literally every character I write is some manifestation of my psyche or self-hatred".
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>>93372392

>trying to learn
>silenced for being inquisitive
I-isn't this the opposite of what SJW should want?

I thought they wanted tolerance...
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>>93372495
They want tolerance without any of the work involved. Answering questions means you have to know what you're talking about and go through with discussion. The alternative is to brow-beat people who dare to have questions.

They want tolerance not really because they're good people, but because it's fashionable and they can feel like they're on the right side of history.
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>>93372495
>>93372548
I never understood social justice.
I mean legally equal rights have been achieved. Job done.
If there is a social issue you dont like then raise awareness and try to change it, dont demand the actual law be changed to force people to tolerate it. Its literally creating inequality in the name of equality.
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>>93372495
I once was talking to a leftie about how my country still finds funny blackfaces and he called us backwards and primitive...
I guess they're tolerant only if you agree with their narrative
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>>93372749

Hell, there is too much in the way of equal rights.

People with AIDS who work at state jobs are not required to disclose their poisonous status, and are not required to wear PPE to protect others from the potential of exposure.
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>>93372495

I dunno, it was just weird. Jeph did something that was "groundbreaking" to his viewership, and as soon as people began to ask questions to better understand the topic at hand, SHUT UP YOU HOMOPHOBIC MONSTERS BANBANBANBANBANBANBAN!!!!!
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>>93373000
Yeah thats some bullshit. Actually dangerous shit
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>>93372749
>Its literally creating inequality in the name of equality.

Welcome to todays America, where everyone needs to accommodate "my" shortcomings or be labeled a heartless monster.

Also welcome to todays America, where it's "Me First."
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>>93373115

>It's me first
and yet America First is 'fascist' to these people.

The Nazis and these folk have more in common than they'd like to think...
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>>93373000
Blood spills are considered hazardous materials by default. At least it was when I worked in every job ever.

And you shouldn't be letting people fuck your ass bare back at work in the first place
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>>93373231

Nonetheless, I think that anyone with AIDS should have to disclose to fellow employees. The chance of communicating the disease may be low, but I'd rather take a 90% chance of Salmonella than a 1% chance of getting aids.
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>>93371758
Why are we even considering the shit BitterSweet Candy comic at all?
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>>93373336

Because it's a comic and we like being angry?
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>>93371758
Claire either has a penis or has a hole where his penis used to be, resembling a vagina but not at close inspection, that requires dilation every day or the wound will heal itself.
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OH WHAT A SURPRISE

NOTHING HAPPENED
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>>93373886
Claire cheated on Marten? Pumping Dora?
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>>93373886

>Claire admits that she's insecure
>doesn't apologize for it
>Marten assures her even though he hates insecurity

There isn't a God, is there?
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>>93373886
Dora took out her insecurities on Marten (and Faye) in the form of bullshit. Marten isn't bad "at dealing with insecurity" he's bad at dealing with habitual bullshit. He reassured her all the fucking time and she never got over herself.

Anyway, this strip sucks.
>Well you never really went into any detail before
Did she ever ask? Is it for her to know? He even says that it was painful and she just makes it about her, Christ.
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>>93373886
Okay, this page was cute.
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>>93373886
>pumping her for information
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>>93353235

Every once in a while I come by these threads so I can see how much worse QC has gotten since I stopped reading it years ago. And every single time, its even worse than I could imagine.
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>>93374060
it's marten
part man, part doormat.
he has a birthmark on his back that spells "welcome"
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>>93371575
guh
heteronormative relationships are SO 2014.
who wants to see filthy breeders hooking up?
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>>93373886
>shameful past

HE DID NOTHING WRONG. Padma was using him, blew him off for weeks, then wanted a last second booty call before she left FOREVER. Marten wanted nothing to do with it and HE'S the bad guy? this is fucking worse than how Hacks made Sven into a bad guy for loving Faye
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>>93374433

The irony is that Faye agreed to have sex with him.

By agency, they're both the bad guy there.

But, of course, Faye wasn't the bad guy, because...wait a second, isn't it denying her agency in the situation if you don't accept that she was an equal partner in the misdeed?

This equal rights stuff is hard...
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>>93374478
..... I don't remember Marten ever fucking Faye or Padma tho
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>>93374621
That anon means Faye agreed to have sex with Sven and yet he was still the bad guy for falling for her.

Marten did smash Padma, though.
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>>93374478
>Faye agrees to fuck Sven
>Faye never says they are dating or doing anything
>Sven didn't ask Faye for sex that time, she initiated it
>Sven sees someone else outside their purely sexual relationship that is as far as Sven is aware open
>Sven immediately tells Faye afterwards

Jeph honestly thought he was portraying Sven as the bad guy.
Compare Sven and Faye's character flaws to Tai and it's hilarious how he will applaud the dyke for doing the same thing he vilifies others for.
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>>93374360
something was getting pumped alright.

were going to need a draw friend to draw claire "pumping" dora for information.
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>>93372495
>>93372749
>>93372783
SJWs have no other objective or interest other than completeting isolating their social bubble from anything that disagrees with them
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>>93374879
and then Dora torturing Claire's dick until she tells her if Marten ever bottomed
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>>93373886
Do you ever think Jeph Jacks will kill off Marten?
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What exactly did he do to this girl again? What did he do that was "handling it like an idiot" again?
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>>93375479
He was a straight white male in her presence

That was enough
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>>93375675
>Straight
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>>93375732
God damn, this bullshit right here is a million times better than anything Jeph has actually done. This may be the best version of that strip ever made.
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>>93373886
Uh what just happened?
Did Jeph read the comments and immediately decide to cut this subplot because the conflict doesn't make sense?
Is this going somewhere?
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>>93376307
It's going the same place of QC subplots go.

Nowhere
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>>93373886
Claire is an awful, terrible human being and it's only a matter of time before Marten's soul is drained fully from him leading to a comic where Pintsize finds his body, lifeless and shriveled like a raisin as Claire assumes her god given right as the new main character of Questionable Content.
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what the fuck is this comic even about any more

Marten's character hasn't changed at all since he broke up with Dora and he hasn't done a damn thing so I know it's not about him

none of the plots are wrapped up properly, it's all OKAY, MOVING ON or deus ex machine-ai

i mean fuck

My only consolation is that Sven and Momo STILL aren't boning, which is great because I know JJ would ruin Sven's character if he revisited him now and it would mean Sven x Hannelore isn't happening
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>>93376307
Apparently he draws these out in advance. So this only lasting 24 hours was planned.
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Ok guys I don't get it (don't read the comic but like these threads)
Who's dora? Is she that brunette who felt insecure cause she she thoufht marten would leave her for a girl with a dick? What did marten do that's so shameful?
Did marten fuck faye at one point?
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>>93377772
Dora's the one who runs the coffee shop and most looks like Marten's fraternal twin.
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>>93377772
Dora is the brunette who owns the coffee shop that Faye used to work at.

She was generally insecure because of a history of dating scumbags and thinking that Marten would either cheat on her or leave her for Faye, who he had been pining for since the start of the strip. That "girl with a penis" strip was just one in a long line of insecure moments for her.

The shameful thing the characters are referring to is from after Dora broke up with Marten. He started going to this other bakery/coffee shop that had Padma, who was basically indian Dora, and Renee, who was basically black Faye. She revealed that she would have to move out to another state because her grandmother was doing poorly, and cognizant of that they still started a relationship. Marten was dreading the split and really didn't know how to deal with that sort of temporary thing because he really liked her (she liked him too, she got a similar sad expression thinking about having to move away), but ignored the time limit and tried to just enjoy the relationship. She extended her stay a little longer, and Marten might've convinced himself that it would become more permanent. but then Padma eventually had to leave as planned.

The shameful thing, is that when Padma called Marten to have a date/talk before she had to leave so they could come to some sort of closure, Marten lied and said he was too busy or tired to meet with her. Padma ended up leaving without the two ever saying goodbye. The idea is that it's shameful because despite all the cards being on the table from the start, and them both genuinely liking each other, he decided to withdraw at the last moment. And in doing that he almost punished her for her circumstances, despite them being out of her control and him knowing them upfront and still pursuing her.

I think it would work fine as a mistake he beat himself up for, but Faye, space station soldier girl and now Renée have called him out over it.
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>>93377822
>>93378334
Thanks for clearing things up guys
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>>93373886

boy i really hate this comic
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>>93378372
No problem.

And I checked and saw something I forgot. When Padma extended her stay, she flaked out on a date with Marten and didn't call him back until the day before she had to leave. So they both kinda got caught up in feelings and didn't know how to deal with them.
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>>93373886
>I'm gonna act like a bitch
>Now, have pity on MY problems!

Claire's got the total-bitch-tier female acting down, at least
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So is Marten still heterosexual? Has that been raised as an issue within his and Claire's relationship at all?
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>>93369226
>dating a guy
>hetero
pardon?
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>>93360055
I am not familiar with the Ava's Demon drama, can you redpill me real quick

Please and thanks
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>>93353725
Fucking this right here

Marten shouldn't even need to feel sheepish, he should feel comfortable saying "hey, that's kind of a sore spot and I'd rather not talk about it." what a fucking poisonous circle of friends he must have if he feels like his only way out is making some excuse and dodging the issue
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>>93378804
Claire has a 13" long feminine penis with a cute tattoo that says "butt destroyer", just like all the other cute girls have in their penises.
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>>93371575
Reminder that the foul-mouthed blue robot girl is the best character in the strip

She been up to anything recently, or has she faded away alongside anything else that might have been actually good about QC?
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>>93353585
It is that bar, elliot works there.
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>>93379306
Got a new face, waiting for better hands so she can jerk off people for money.

>>93373886
>dora calling someone else insecure
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>>93373886
>Marten's thousand yard stare into space as he assures Claire he loves her and wants to be with her

He loved Big Brother
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>>93353593

They say the same thing about STEM majors.

Apparently STEM is a culture of toxic masculinity, as if we're a bunch of alpha makes who harass women and keep them out of our bro club, instead of the shy autistic virgins we actually tend to be.
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>>93374433

Eh, he wasn't being a 'nice guy' for once, buuuut.

He was kinda a passive aggressive little bitch about it.
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>>93373886
>You never talked about your past, and I am entitled to know about it

Imagine if this were reversed (and Claire was a girl). His fans would go nuts about slut shaming and past relationships not mattering.

Also bonus points for instant turning it around to be about Claire's insecurity and not about Marten's privacy (which is really why he broke up with Dora, it's like pottery)
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>>93379874
The only characters that aren't passive aggressive are Faye, May, and Pintsize, and that's because they're aggressive aggressive
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>>93378819
>Ava's Demon drama
>>93084423
and follow up and downstream links
google if you must, but the results are in no way edifying
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>>93361457
I agree. I actually have a half-asian friend almost exactly like her.
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>>93380045

Remember when the joke of a comic used to be 'Faye commits assault, and no one does anything because calling the police is for pussies'?

Or whatever the reason was that no one called the cops on a crazy woman hitting people.
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>>93353660
No, this is black Faye in her first apparence and now. Just remember, it's supposed to be totally the same character. Then again, Jeph only knows four faces, so she kinda looks the same if you squint. Just fatter.
Also, does everyone need to have a septum piercing now?
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>>93380493

>gained like 150 pounds
I love that this is what tolerance is
Not 'acceptance as you are', but acceptance as you meet a standard.

Jesus Christ it's like the inverse of a fucking modeling agency.
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>>93378503

If Jeph did this nowadays tumblr would have lost their minds since a black woman was acting like a whore.
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>>93379588
Too be fair, most STEM majors I've come across tend to be raging egotists with an unwarranted sense of self-importance, especially engineering majors.

>>93380493
It's somewhat more realistically believable that someone spending all day surrounded by high calorie foods would put on weight.

>>93380511
It's the exact same as a modeling agency. Hell, it's closer to a fetish porn company.

I'm into fat chicks and facial piercings so I can't really complain.
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>>93353776
I don't get why he believes trannies exist anywhere. Does he actually believe the research from the pedophilic Dr. Money?
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>>93381032

>would put on weight
Believable
>Gains so much weight that everyone around you would reasonably be concerned about your health
>but no one actually seems to care despite the fact that you're killing yourself
Not so believeable
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>>93381254
Depends on the amount of time that has passed in comic. Which is something like a few months. Also you're forgetting the fundamental aspect of QC, all the characters are terrible people.
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>>93381561

Wrong!

That guy who leaves his kid alone with people who are sociopaths, violent, and drunk? The guy who owns the bakery?

He's not half bad.
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>>93377772
It's amazing that we're at a point in QC where two people who used to be main characters of the comic are relegated to "literally who" status.
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>>93353235
who says imo out loud
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>>93381032
>It's the exact same as a modeling agency.
This.
The whole identity politics, virtue signaling, SJW thing is just like every other clique ever. You have to wear the right clothes, get the right haircut, say the right thing about the right people or you get harassed. One side of the coin likes business suits and cocaine while the other gets piercings and smokes weed. Same assholes, only the aesthetic changes.
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>>93377635

Jeph admitted once that he has no "backup" pages should he get into trouble like a death in the family cause they stabbed their hand and died of shock, or he gets into a car accident and part of the transmission shifter impales his hand. The comic pretty much can be changed on a whim if need be.
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>>93353235
>nose-ring
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>>93378765

The fandom thinks so, but everyone else knows that Marten is hella gay now.
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>>93378765
Well, Claire seems to be able to adapt well where no one can mistaken her for a man. So you have to be at least straight to be attracted to Claire's womanness. It's obvious she has post op.

Real 100% homosexuals wouldn't want to date Claire because there's not enough masculine traits to tell your brain this is a sexy man. Not even a twink since she has boobs and estrogen therapy
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>>93382145
>Well, Claire seems to be able to adapt well where no one can mistaken her for a man.

Or it's just Jeph's writing skills that is shit.
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>>93382046
wait till you see the rest
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>>93383189
I'm willing to give it a pass since Clinton looks like a butch chick 90% of the time. Short, slender, somewhat feminine facial structure, and a transition start that is presumably in her late teenage years would make for a very passable transwoman.
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>>93382017
I think he just draws a lot of them up in an hour or so at the end of the day.
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>>93353235
Excuse my poor english, but... Is there a scientific theory about why women (transgender or no) does like to berate men when they do one wrong thing, but men can't do the same without pass as a "insensitive brute"?
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>>93381254
Remember that time Black Faye recited her daily routine, and 90% was obsessive /fit/ness stuff like jogging, hitting the gym, and making salads or some shit? That one was pretty funny.
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>>93384154
Men are bigger.
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>>93384154
Because primate socialization tends to revolve around females and what pleases females. Even human males can't get far without the tacit approval of some females on some level.
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>>93384154
What men say and do actually matters, so they're held accountable. What women say and do doesn't matter, so nobody cares.
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>>93367586
Or the character does. But maybe Jeph only soapboxes through his characters.
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>>93384154
>women (transgener or not)
Why do you want scientific evidence when you accept artificial sexes created by marxists in order to exploit legal procedures, that said, here's what one anon once posted.
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>>93373886
>Dora is an insane jealous person
>Marten has a problem with insecurity
Jesus. I want off this ride. A more natural dialog chain would see Marten immediately jump on this, even if he's generally a wet blanket, because Dora saying that is fucking heinous; but Jeph is so drama adverse that of course the dialog must conform to his habit of giving quick resolutions.
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>>93373886
I think this shit is called gaslighting when a guy does it to a girl.
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>>93376709
That's not happening anyway, given the fact Sven hasn't been in the comic for, like, 1000 pages.
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>>93357844
you haven't spent much time around transgenders have you?

Literally every single transgender person I have known or come in contact with has been a smug asshole who thinks they're the best thing since sliced bread and the world should cater to their every fucking whim.
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>>93383189
Claire's transitioning is just that bit of magic in every science fiction property. A more confident writer may have tried to tackle Claire's trans status, since being trans produces conflict in the real world (which the QC world sorta emulates), while exploring how Claire and Marten and whoever deal with that conflict; however, Jeph was either scared of reprisal or wasn't confident in his ability to write such conflict or wanted to describe a world wherein the conflict had already passed. The result is a situation that seems a bit "pie in the sky" to me, but it was a legit option. The only issue, from a verisimilitude perspective, is Claire's own trepidation as coming out as trans. In this world where it's no big deal, she probably wouldn't feel that way.
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>>93353593

Because nerds are socially retarded enough to either not care/not understand they they need to bow before the numale and the fempire.
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>>93380101

Thanks anon. Christ that's infuriating
>allonormative
>acephobic
>arophobic
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>>93354645

He focused on the robutts for too long. Tumblr is throwing a hissy fit that he's not out preaching the good word like he's supposed to.
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>>93373885
wait, is that how MtF works?
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>>93385002
The problem with doing a trans arc is that QC is a post-Singularity setting with commonplace robotics and cybernetics. There really isn't a good reason why they shouldn't have advanced medical technology that would render all of the non-societal issues with transitioning meaningless.
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>>93374060
there are lots of gods...and they have all abandoned this comic

well, except maybe Loki and Eris.
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>>93385195
The societal issues tend to stem from the idea that the trans person started out biologically "correct." From this perspective, any change, no matter how convincing, will be viewed with derision. We see this reaction in QC threads all the time. However, none of this means a post-singularity world wouldn't just get over it for various, internally consistent reasons. I'm hip to that. Tell me how the world works and stick to it, and I'm good. The problem arose when Claire felt weird coming out in a world where no one gives a fuck. Something is off with the internal logic of the QC world.
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>>93384666
Nah, satan. Gaslighting is when you pretend somebody else is insane. An example would be

>Man, that movie we saw yesterday was bad
>What movie?
>Th-the movie we saw?
>We didn't go see a movie. Are you feeling okay honey? I think you've been confusing your dreams again.

And then you go a step further and steal the movie ticket stubs out of their scrap book that they don't know you know about. It's really scary for them if they start to fall for it, especially if you get other people knowingly or unknowingly supporting the charade.
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>>93385177
It's a very simplified explanation, but it's more or less correct. Vaginoplasty is a rather fascinating procedure.
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>>93385152
>allonormative
>acephobic
>arophobic

what do those words even mean....
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>>93385364
Well, all of Marten's friends insisting that he's a bad dude strikes me as some communal gaslighting.
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>>93385002

Nope, he's too chickenshit to tackle it lest it impacts his income.
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>>93385177
Have you got a better idea for how to make it work?
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>>93385310
I think the trouble is that Jeph will tell but not show that there is such a thing as transphobia. Claire's actions and words tell us it exists, but we've never seen it. Closest we've come was the guest strip with Ted (who wasn't really very transphobic at all) and the one time he used Bubbles's being a robot as a metaphor for prejudice, when some random stoop dwelling white kids called her a freak out of nowhere.
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>>93385310
A world where no one gives a fuck is the real issue. Rather than make it a personal thing with Claire not wanting to bring it up, the comic seems to indicate that the world still gives a fuck despite all assertions to the contrary. He could have made it an issue stemming from transhumanism, at the risk a "truscum" argument from readers, which would jive a bit more with what we've seen.
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>>93385493
Flamenwerfer?

honestly, I'm not sure since I've never considered it. I always thought it was an artificial thing or some sort of implant that was inserted and attached, not a never-healing wound that needs constant poundings to exist.
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>>93357928
>Sinfest is a goddamn train wreck. I held on for a long time in hopes of more Criminy and Fuschia strips, but clearly that dream is dead.

romantic comedies and women determining their own role in life instead of the one they were supposedly born for is misogynistic shitlord patriarchy now?
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>>93385471

>I'm writing a story heavy comic
>I don't plan to discuss one of the most IMPORTANT FACTS OF CLAIRE BEING TRANS
I'm not even talking about genitals, but it would take a day or two tops to research about the stages of Gender Reassignment Therapy/Surgery, goddamnit!
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>>93385437
I think acephobic is being mean to "ace" or asexual people. Like when somebody says that asexuality doesn't really exist and it's just an excuse for virgins who can never get laid.

>in before someone says "well it is"

Arophobic kind of sounds like people who are against "aromantics," I guess, who are like asexuals but with romantic relationships instead of with sex, I think?

Come to think of it, these people should stop using the term "phobic" for people they just don't like. It really delegitimizes genuine phobias, which are a real mental problem and don't really speak to an individuals character the way the use of "xphobic" does when applied to queers. These are usually the same sjws who call people "ableist" for not respecting the existence of mental illness, so that's typically hypocritical of them.
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>>93385651
>surgically inserting a prosthetic fleshlight

kek
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>>93357928
>>93385712
Crim/Fuschia still exists.
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I'm on page 350 when it's still 2005
How the fuck did we get here?
Does he ever bone faye?
Why is everyone black?
What happened to faye?
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>>93385795
you have a point.

>you irrationally fear me because I don't feel romance!!!!

phobia is not a word that would describe any of my feelings about "asexual" and "aromantic" people.

I personally love how "normative" is such a bad word too. like being "normal" and these things being "normal" is the worst thing in the world.
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>>93385639
Claire's trepidation in coming out to Marten is actually a moment where Jeph shows us something, but you're right. We never see transphobia elsewhere. Bubbles and the other robots are fine stand-ins (speculative fiction lets us tackle topics we might not otherwise be able to, after all), but you're also right that the abuse comes out of nowhere. I see no reason why anyone should care about robots when you can buy them as pets. Hell, having those kids abuse Bubbles the way kids abuse errant dogs would make more sense in this world, but at that point Jeph would just be commenting on personhood, not transphobia or whatever.

>>93385650
Right. Claire's actions seem context dependent, but that context doesn't exist in the comic. That said, I'm not sure how you're connecting transhumanism to truscum (admittedly, I had to look that one up).
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>>93385855
that one's actually kind of mildly amusing
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>>93385795
Asexuals are people who don't feel sexual attraction, aromantics are people who don't feel romantic attractions; the notion that people would be actually persecuted or oppressed for either one is kinda laughable.

>>93385914
On the other side of the coin you have people who use "normative" or "normal" as a synonym for "common."
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>>93374433
At least the Padme arc retroactively gained the amusement of seeing Faye set herself up for some grand hypocrisy later, when it became her lover that was moving away.

>>93376709
Marten has changed a bit, just not for the better. He used to get a bit more aggressive at people (even if just passively aggressive), now he just sulks. Claire's behavior here is something he'd have gotten at least a little confrontational with Dora about, but Claire just gets hugs and reassurance.

But then again, maybe it's just that talking Tai through the minefield that is a relationship with Dora has taught Marten a thing or two about successfully courting crazy people.
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>>93385903
>How the fuck did we get here?
it is a journey that cannot be described, merely experienced
>Does he ever bone faye?
LOL
>Why is everyone black?
You're asking why a comic that used to be about shiftless hipsters is slowly obliterating its white cast? I think this is the most obvious one you've asked.
>What happened to faye?
she started lusting after robo dykes
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>>93354652
>>93354515
>>93354440
I haven't followed this comic in years,
I only read the threads occasionally to see people shitting on it again

I feel fucking great about it
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>>93386069
>the notion that people would be actually persecuted or oppressed for either one is kinda laughable.
I've seen self-proclaimed asexual people get some shit, but I wonder how widespread that derision could be. Maybe it just gets wrapped up in the usual virgin shaming our culture engages in.
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>>93386076

Faye had a lover who was moving away?
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>>93386094
>robo dykes
Huh?
What is this web he's weaving?
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>>93386178

Admittedly, asexuality is actually unnatural and deserving of ridicule.
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>>93386028
I feel I can be less ashamed if I admit this in a QC thread, but I actually like following Sinfest.
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>>93386209
Well since you're clearly never going to mate with anyone either, maybe you should kill yourself to save planetary resources, you unnatural freak.
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>>93386076
An interesting prospect is that Marten is learning the wrong lessons in each of his relationships. Certainly, reassuring an insecure partner is fine and good and whatever; however, Claire is a bit off the rails on this one, but Marten has taken the "use a gentler hand in reassuring your crazy girlfriend" to mean "let your crazy girlfriend walk all over you."

Honestly, that's a fun dynamic that could feel real (in a "no, no, stop, oh god stop" sorta way), but I doubt Jeph has such foresight.
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>>93386195
assuming intent in QC is a path to the madness Jeph brought himself into
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>>93386209
If we take human socialization and culture creation as a natural process (since we've do it naturally), then any of the weirdness that results from that process would necessarily need to be seen as natural.

Sure, it bumps up against our imperative to spread our genes, but so does monogamy.
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>>93386305
>Jeph's life continues down a useless, depressing path
>Comic reflects this more and more
>Final update is Marten's suicide followed by Jeph's in real life
Let's hope he doesn't fall down the Randy Stairs
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>>93386022
Basically, if you're in a setting where technology is advanced enough to have completely functional cyberlimbs you'd probably have a bunch of people who go transhuman because they think it's cool or trendy. In a setting that advanced SRS is probably a, comparatively, simple treatment process so it'd probably get lumped in with other forms of bodily modification. Imagine how you'd feel as a person with gender dysphoria who transitioned getting lumped in someone who transitioned because they're a trendwhore.
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>>93386475
Ah yeah, so Claire's feelings on coming out might be read as uncertainty about how legitimate her trans status will be read, not that she's worried about transphobia. This fear would probably get compounded by the fact her brother is a small time transhuman fetishist.

Honestly, a conversation about her feelings of being somehow de-legitimized in the post-singularity moment lends an interesting dynamic to her character. Sure, it would make her (for a time at least) truscum, but her arc could be a resolution of those feelings as she lives her life surrounded by robots and cyborgs.

The problem is that Jeph (and his fans) seem to think a story can only reflect the absolute honest opinions held by the author. I get that all discourse is political and blahblahblah, but I'm also pretty sure Nabakov wasn't condoning Humbert Humbert's actions by writing the character.
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>>93386209
Asexuality has historically been an idealized state due to the importance placed on aestheticism and chastity. Hell, even as recent as the Victorian era women weren't supposed to have sexual urges.

>>93386305
I think the reason I like Claire so much is because unlike a lot of the other characters she's comes across as a person with realistic issues and hangups. Her asshole behavior is tolerably low-key, unlike Dora who probably should have had her ass kicked two or three times by now. Marten is just this sad sack of spineless, mopey nothing. He's so bland he's not even oatmeal, he's like unflavored fiber powder.
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>>93386475

Transhumanism, of course, is as cancerous as machines being built to do anything but serve.

Bubbles was built to die in combat.

Pintsize and May were built to be sent to the reject chute.

Momo should be licking peanut butter off of Marigold's pussy.
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>>93379453
>got a new face
Given Jeph's drawing style how would you even be able to tell?
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>>93386671
On reflection, I don't think Dora is terribly unrealistic in her severe insecurity either. She's terrible as a result, but I'm perfectly fine reading about terrible people. The problem is absolutely Marten because he displays a common issue that author analogues suffer from; he only ever reacts. He has no fucking agency. He's a Plinko ball beholden to gravity, tumbling to that big "O" at the bottom. I said it was an interesting prospect that Marten might be learning the wrong lessons and becoming a worse person as the comic progresses, but it won't be interesting if he learns to never share his own hopes and desires.
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>>93386733
It's a different color.
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>>93386838

At this point Marten is still working at a library and ostensibly still in a shitty metal band which doesn't play shows and hasn't even been in the comic for probably thousands of pages. He has absolutely nothing going on in his life or as a character. He literally sits around the house and acts as a set piece for Faye and Claire.
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>>93386733
He changed its color. That's it.
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>>93386611
Clinton has a fully functioning cybernetic hand while the chick who got her leg eaten by a dinosaur has a carbon fiber blade prosthesis. Even with the understanding that a functional hand is more important than a functional lower leg, why would you gimp yourself like that? Clinton's robot hand can't be that expensive, so there has to be some other reason why she'd choose to lose out on ankle functionality. About the only thing that'd make sense is an opposition to transhumanism and a tendency to lump everything into transhumanism.

>>93386673
There is no combat, ergo Bubbles can't die in combat. She's filling her downtime with productive behavior. As soon as war were declared she'll knock Faye up with a robobaby to remember her by then head out to the battlefield to crush the corpses of her enemies into the blood-soaked mud.
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>>93386179
Dora's brother I believe

it was long ago, in a distant land, before Aku's evil was LAAAWWWW!!!!
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>>93387036
>>93386179
no, Dora's brother is Sven. Angus was her bf that moved to NYC to be famous
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>>93386342
except monogamy doesn't bump up against our imperative to spread our genes, it actually has the most diversity in gene-spreading

what it does bump up against is women's desire to fuck only Chad.
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>>93387061
how can you tell? they all look the same.
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>>93386838
The main issue with Dora is that no one calls her out on her shitty, toxic behavior other than a light chiding and her insecurity should have made her relationship with Tai crash and burn pretty quickly.

I think the reason why everyone got so invested in the Trappening was because Marten had to be an active participant in the plot. It's also why the emotional high point of the story was Marten asking Claire out. It was a story of his personal agency; he wasn't being setup by his friends, he wasn't the one getting asked out, it was Marten saying "I want this, and I will pursue it."
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>>93386305
>yfw it's all a ruse
>Clair will get progressively crazier and crazier
>marten continues to be a door mat
> one day marten will fight back
>Relationship instantly enters the breaking point
>Clair loses her mind
>And that kids is why trans is bad
>Jeph then runs off with all the money he made
>Tumblr stays mad for months on end
A man can dream
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>>93387208

Now that she bankrolled Faye, though, I imagine that she's never going to have a character flaw again.
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>>93387305
she didn't bankroll her, she encouraged her to get a loan at the bank
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>>93387086
If your genes are so desirable, you'd be spreading them to more than one partner because an nine month gestation period is immense. Very few other male mammals choose a single mate. They run harems. Polygamy is far more ideal. Diversity, in itself, isn't the ideal to strive toward. The strongest genes within a given system would see greater promulgation.
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>>93387418

She co-signed. When Faye fucks up, Dora is agreeing to use her profits to help rather than to use her profits on herself.

I very strongly consider this bankrolling.
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>>93387418
She cosigned the loan, but that's also not bankrolling.

>>93387208
No character ever really gets called out on shitty behavior. The character who's gotten the most shit beyond Marten is Sven who was only ever a fuccboi.

And you're right. Tai and Dora should have erupted pretty quickly. That said, I'd buy into the relationship lasting if I ever saw them getting into fights and working out their problems, but Jeph skips all the most interesting scenes. Like with this week's mess. A more interesting decision would have let Marten sit there a bit while Claire pried into his past with the black chick. Or hell, it's a visual medium with a more or less objective camera, let Marten walk away and give us a chance at dramatic irony by letting us see the conversation. Likewise, Tai and Dora seem like an unrealistic pairing because we only know that one sleeps around and one has deep insecurities. It shouldn't work, and the fact that it does signals a huge misstep in what information we get to see.

>>93387296
Since I don't have much skin in the game regarding the broader trans debate, I've never quite understood the negative reaction to Claire's transitioning. I just think of her like the Major. Who knows what Kusanagi looked like before getting into her sexy robot shell? Claire functions via the same logic.
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>>93387602

The irony of JJ: show conflict but quash it down before it can become interesting.

Be inclusive, but don't talk about the issues that plague these people.

Be pro trans, but don't have the stones to talk about HRT.

So few people come close to greatness and then shy away from it.

And Jeph Jacques runs from it screaming, and I hope enough people start adblocking him that he starts losing money.
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>>93387602
I'm pretty sure most of the negative reaction to Claire transitioning is people just messing around as opposed to any actual issue with the fictional transwoman. Also we can more or less assume that Claire looked similar to Clinton before she transitioned.

2nd GIG showed the Major as a child,
she's had a full body prosthesis since she was a little kid.
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>>93387602

Only character to really get called on shitty behavior was Faye's alcoholism, and that's because it's J's pet issue.

Of course, she's 'cured' now, never feels any temptation, etc, because Jeph is 'cured' now.
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>>93387776

Claire is treated as an untouchable unicorn that is always right and never in the wrong. The latest strip shows this. People don't like it for never being shown as wrong, while at the same time, people like it cause it's in an ideal situation where nobody even knows it's a tranny aside from 4 people tops.
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>>93388104
The context was specifically for the transitioning though.
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>>93366387
>Granted Marten is pussying out and trying to leave because...why?
He's worried about losing that seemingly-underaged boipussy.

More accurately, because he immediately regretted turning down Padma's offer to hook up that evening, but didn't call her back because... pride, I guess? And then when he tells Faye about it later that evening, she gives him grief about it, and rather than think for himself, he accepts her reactionary opinion as gospel truth. So now he looks back on the event and sees it as shameful.

Kinda weird how Renee is being judgmental about it, I'd assume she'd know that Padma was dodging Martin before he was dodging Padma. If it weren't for the last panel of Wednesday's comic, I'd guess that maybe Jeph had conflated Faye's and Black Faye's opinions. But eh, I guess folks being a bit blind to their friends' faults ain't anything special.
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>>93385177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQAIeYWzbU this is how it works. the video is actually pretty cool
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>>93387645
given most of his income appears to be patreon, I doubt that would work

don't blame you for feeling that way though.
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>>93387776
idk, we are talking about the fanbase that made him stab his hand simply because he put a 'fat" girl in a bikini.

I wouldn't put anything past his fans, they're almost worse than we are.
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>>93389428

Well, I can always hope Patreon raises it's 'cut' and that jews him too.
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>>93389454
Maybe he could take some of that patreon money and buy himself some mail gloves.
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>>93388949
On the one hand, I am amazed at the human body's ability to undergo something like that an nominally heal from it.

on the other hand that is one of the most fucked up things I can think of doing to ones body and how the fuck was this ever listed as a good idea. I suddenly understand anti-trans people sooo much more now.
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>>93389665
It's less complex than some forms of bypass surgery. The real complicated shit is FtM surgery.
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>>93389876
this, actually if you eve bother watch pics of post-op pussies after properly healed, they look pretty much the original thing and also that they are penetration ready and such, the FtM dicks looks like an actual atrocity, they may as hell just put a realistic dildo on it
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>>93353235
I would stab that cunt.
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>>93353918
that's quite an erection she's got.
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>>93391753
Erection? That's her flaccid.
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>>93371758
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clinton fucking destroyed in today's panel 3
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>>93393097
Post it?
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>>93353448

"tech bro" is a specific thing, it's not just any dude who works in tech. it's some entrepreneur silicon valley app shithead who's really into TED talks and shit. they're all insufferable turds.

fuck you for making a post so bad I had to defend jeff jacks.
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>>93394242
Right. Think TJ Miller from Silicon Valley. Or hell, think the actual bros from that show.
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>>93366158
So wait, I get this is an edit, but is she even planning on ever doing this herself?
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>>93385471
So he admits he's a huge pussy who avoids any conflict no matter how trivial it may be even if it comes at the cost of his story and/or characters having more depth?
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>>93394919
He pretty much admitted it when he stabbed his hand to make up for his fat mistake.
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>>93394883
Jeph refuses to put any details about Claire's transition into the comic itself.
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Terrible
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>>93385471
Wait so there's a story in this shitfest?
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>>93393388

Brun, Claire isn't the paragon of being a relationship devil.
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>>93393388
>Now Brun is a cunt

Sigh
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>>93389665
Dysphoria is a hell of an affliction. These people have an affliction that screams at them that they're in the wrong body, that the one they have is wrong and bad and uncomfortable.

I don't blame them for doing whatever they can to make that feeling go away.
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>>93386174
I'm the same way about DoA. I've been reading QC for a lot longer, however, so the habit is proving difficult to kick.
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>>93393388
Remember original hanners? back when she was high functioning and the voice of reason and fucking smoked?

Her original turn up in the comic was fucking beautiful, then she got turned into quirky spaz qt3.14 for fanbait.
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>>93389665
most likely the same people who lists baby murdering as a good idea.
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>>93396460

After Jeph stabbed his hand because some cunt thought Marigold wasn't too fat enough, Jeph outed Claire as being Transgendered. With this "new: revelation, a ton of folks got "interested" in Transgendered Stuff.

The biggest question that was on everyone's mind was "Penis or no penis?" Cue Jeph pretty much sidestepping the issue despite egging on readers for the longest time, and then.....

....this stupid strip appeared.
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>>93397525
That stare in the last panel kills me every time
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>>93397785

Especially after dealing with the alcohol poisoning that Faye had a few strips back. Wonder what Jeph was thinking:

"Man, I just wrote about one of my characters drinking like a blown V8 engine. What should I do next? Oh yes, pity sex!!"
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>>93385437
Allonormative means suggesting that not being autistic is the norm, or that being autistic is somehow unusual.
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>>93398101
Genetic disorders are by their definition unusual.
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>>93353725
>expecting a tranny fucking faggot to have a spine

Funny joke
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>>93398101
Being autistic is unusual, both statistically and genetically. So is being gay. Admitting that fact doesn't automatically imply that you have to hate those people because they're unusual. The tumblrs don't seem to get that you can both acknowledge someone is unusual and still respect them.
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>>93398101

>suggesting that not being autistic is the norm, or that being autistic is somehow unusual

Well duh
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>>93397399
original Hanners was best girl
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>>93397785
Didn't he edit the last panel? Remember someone on here saying he changed the face.
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>>93372749

>>I mean legally equal rights have been achieved. Job done.

That's like arguing that racism ended after the South lost the war
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>>93400293
no he went back and "fixed" the bed and Claire's eyes but it's the same face
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>>93399988
indeed
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>>93398303

If autism wasn't usual we'd have some pretty big problems. Autism is a pretty damn big hindrance in a lot of career fields. Like bartending.
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>>93400390

Explain.

You can't discriminate on the basis of anything now.

After the South lost the war, it was still de facto (and de jure in many parts of the south) legal to be racist as fuck.

There actually is no dragon to slay any more. The largest inequality in society is income, not race, sex, preference, or creed
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>>93353725
I've suspected for a long time that the "humor" of his mom being a popular internet dominatrix is actually supposed to imply Martin was abused as a child in some way. Not in a direct way, but I think at one point in the comic she casually mentions she had a bunch of her porn friends come over in their panties for his 13th birthday or something.
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>>93400941

Is that how he 'saves' Martin from being purged from the comic?
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>>93400978
I dunno, but it would explain why he's such a fucking whipping boy if he's used to be fucked over both literally and figuratively.
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>>93400876
>The largest inequality in society is income
If you look into the subject, there is a trend that poverty breeds poverty.
A lot of it has to do with schools getting funding based on property taxes and property value.
So in poor areas kids will go to poor schools and will generally get jobs or educations that keep them at or around the pay level they grew up in.

Crime is also attributed to poverty and poor education.

Up until the Civil Rights Act people were able to keep neighborhoods all white. They sold the lower income housing mostly to black families.

After the act was passed it's not like most of the people could just move out of their houses. Their kids were still going to lower income schools.
This type of thing isn't something that can really be solved just by signing a piece of paper saying everyone is equal.

If race was truly not a factor, then we'd see all races equally represented in all job markets, in all levels and fields of employment, in the prison population, and above/below the poverty line. Based on their percentage of the population anyways. But we do see this as a problem across multiple areas.

It's also not an easy fix either since either buffing the underprivileged or nerfing the over privileged will result in cries of racism.
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>>93400405
Even his fixed copy fails to recolor the pillow in the last panel to match what it was in the panel before that. Its still wall colored.
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>>93402097
he also didn't fix Claire's eye in the first panel. he's a lazy piece of shit making 6 figures from his webcomic and he can't be fucked to make the art even semipassable
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>>93400405

Really, just take the bags out(Or put them in every panel for consistency, since the whole deal is he's supposed to be tired from taking care of Punchy McDrunkface) and it's not near as bad.

I don't see how he left it like that.
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Wasn't there a comic of this where they are at the beach?
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>>93403449
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>>93403449
always a classic
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>>93403607
I'd have kept the tranny in the second to last panel but had the Loch Ness monster coming out of his/her/xer/sonichu's pants.
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>>93353235
I want to fuck Brown Faye.
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>>93353448
>people who work with computers all day are just rando dudebros compared to his virtuous numale self.

Aren't most of the background characters that aren't hipsters some kind of bro? Claire's mom is fucking college bros, there are three random fratbros who chant "BRO BRO BRO!" at people.
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>>93403607
Never gets old.

By the way, anyone care to explain where Claire's nose ring came from? It's honestly kind of unappealing.
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>>93353725
>God dammit why can't Marten show even the tiniest bit of spine ever.

If my mom were a famous dominatrix, I'd probably have trouble standing up to all my female friends too.
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>>93403965
from her creator
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>>93403607
I miss chef dad everyday.
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>>93401422
>If race was truly not a factor, then we'd see all races equally represented in all job markets, in all levels and fields of employment, in the prison population, and above/below the poverty line. Based on their percentage of the population anyways. But we do see this as a problem across multiple areas.

except you're ignoring other factors. if "race" was the only factor, then sure, but what about internal culture?

For example, black culture celebrates Rap stars and "thug", and looks down upon education. That's cultural, not racial, and explains why there's a disproportionate number in prison.

Jews celebrate intelectual and artistic paths, which isn't racial, but is cultural...and why they're over represented in hollywood, government, and finance.

Asians culturally drive towards academic and corporate, which explains why they're over represented in higher grades, and high paying jobs.

by your logic, if race alone was a factor, we'd see an equal percentage of jews in hollywood and government according to their race, and an equal number of asians in prison according to their race...despite the fact that culturally those groups do not celebrate activities that generally lead towards prison, where as the culture of black communities does.

>It's also not an easy fix either since either buffing the underprivileged or nerfing the over privileged will result in cries of racism.

because it is. you would be promoting or discriminating on the basis of Race (which is racism). Because your entire argument is "x race has harder, so we make it easier, y race has better, so we make it harder).

The irony is that has been tried (affermative action) and all it does is make y race actually work harder, still get the jobs, as x race still does exactly the same as before and fail to improve themselves because they culturally have no interest in that kind of improvement.
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>>93353794
>why this comic make it sounds like he did something wrong?

Because everything is always the fault of men?
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>>93354939
>The best I would say is like Tim/ Steff/ Cass where all three care for the other two in a deep way.
Tim is one lucky mother fucker.
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>>93357928
>Sinfest is a goddamn train wreck.

That's being pretty fucking charitable considering it was a comic about demons interacting with humans that is now completely about patriarchal oppression of women.
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>>93361517
>Absolutely nothing.

But somehow still too busy to out with Clinton again.
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>>93389665
It's no different from corrective surgery. Why hate people who want an asshole born without an asshole, for example? Except I'm pretty sure ftm surgery is never going to have a real breakthrough. Ftm trans folks will never have an acceptable penis in their lifetime.
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>>93404969
>People who want an asshole
>Wanting an asshole
>People
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>>93369226
>>Because Marten's the last heterosexual white guy in the comic
Steve.

>>93372749
>I never understood social justice.
>Its literally creating inequality in the name of equality.

Congratulations, bro. You aren't a communist.
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>>93387645
I don't think he intends his comic to be educational in the first place? He never explained all the indie references and jokes ever and stuff
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>>93405032

It's not about education, it's about how he shies away from doing what would make his comic better.

Back when it was indie music references, that was the joke. No one got it because no one listened to his trash bands, and hey ho, that's okay.

But now he's talking about social issues, and he basically has one or two jobs:

A. Make it interesting.
(OBJECTIVE FAILED)

B. Make it informative
(OBJECTIVE FAILED)
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>>93387935
Is this really a fair statement? Faye almost lost her self during that one "fight".
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>>93404969
>It's no different from corrective surgery.
I still haven't heard a good reason why cutting off your penis because it feels foreign to you is inherently different than cutting off your legs because they feel foreign to you.
>Ftm trans folks will never have an acceptable penis in their lifetime.
Look up, or don't, various breakthroughs in lab grown rabbit dicks. It's quite possible that FTM's will actually get function penises in the next twenty years, but they'll be in line behind the billionaires wanting 9 inchers
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Marten and Claire in swimsuits please?
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>>93405088
I don't know, making it informative never worked. I remembered that one strip where they "explained" there was different kinds of relationships.( it was either Tai or Dora talking). I didn't gave a fuck and sounded too preachy and out of place
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>>93405176

The fact he can't pull it off is proof that he is mediocre. Of course, once you've appealed to tumblr you have two choices: git gud or join the masses as mediocre.
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>>93384154
I was just reading a large screencap about this book called "The Manipulated Man" that came out back in the 70's. It was written by a woman, and explains that, contrary to the idea that men have formed an oppressive patriarchy to keep women down, women are actually in control of society. By taking advantage of their role as sexual selectors, and encouraging a great deal of masculinity, especially at a young age, to be about how easily you can obtain sex, women can manipulate men into doing anything they want. Berating Marten the way they do and constantly making him out to be the bad guy essentially forces his subservience. If he wants to keep his circle of friends (position in the social hierarchy) and girlfriend (access to sex/companionship), he'll feel bad about his actions, admit that he did/does wrong, that the women prying into his business are correct in their commentary, and that he should do what they say.

I really ought to read the whole book. I realize that Jeph has a reputation as a doormat cuck, but it really is interesting seeing how almost all the men in the comic (Steve and Dale being the exceptions) are a bunch of passive sheep. Elliot just whips his shirt off when Renee tells him to, and Clinton not only lets the waitress from a few comics ago smugly tell him about how he needs to handle his interpersonal relationships but then try to extort $100 out of him for the "advice"
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>>93357294
Jeph's admitted to researching his own comic on the wiki. He's also done shadow edits when his fanbase points out continuity errors.
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>>93405128
>still haven't heard a good reason

Someone already told you it's disphoria. Disphoria essentially means the disphoria sufferer is literally born with a physically different brain from female Hetero/cis brains, male Hetero/cis brains, male homo/cis brains, female/cis brains. Of you course you can't relate, you're born right. If you murder all of us here, slice our heads in half, you can pinpoint which one of us are born wrong (assuming you're a brain scientist, I guess).

There's no real drug to fix disphoria except a bullet in the head. If you have it, that's the physical reality that you're just gonna have to live with forever. Like being born ugly.

ypu cant just make up a strawman argument about people who feels their legs are foreign.
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>>93405269
That's probably a good point, but to be all honest, I feel like his stance, the "none of your business" response he gave to fan's question about Claire's junnk, stance was just as valid? Even tho she's fictional, his action does align with plenty of trans tumblers' blogs he probably lurked on for crap research material
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>>93405485

As a supporter of LGBT, I feel like it's a copout.

Then again, he always cops out. He ends conflict before they can get long any more.

Dora and Martin's breakup didn't last two comics (including its start), it lasted long enough to cause at least two sub plots AND to introduce characters that he's still using today (though he had to change them to be more tumblr acceptable).

It's possible to be TOO willing to get involved in a single plot/subplot, but he runs screaming away from it, now.
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>>93405530
every time he introduces a half-baked conflict it's over by the next strip, he can't commit to anything except mediocrity
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did he ever do more than one of these?
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>>93405364

Wow. I'm sorry you feel that way. That's not been my experience in the real world at all...
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>>93408351

Nope. IIRC, before he made his Pateron earnings "private," his take went past 10K a few times when it reconciled at the end of the month. This is the only strip he made.
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>>93408351

Someone said once that the latin on the gravestone was wrong. Can a Latin Fluent Anon confirm?
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Isn't there a comic where Claire is in a bathing suit?
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>>93405364
It's not a universal truth. It's called gaslighting. Anyone can gaslight somebody: a hot woman, your brother, your parent, your friend, your coworker, your lover, your teacher, your student, your son. Anybody.
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>>93409334

Yes. In which she hides her erection for Steve.
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>>93404042
Okay, but when did s/he get the nosering? Do they even bring it up within the comic?
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>>93405530
I totally get what you mean. but it's kinda great the way Claire's plot is treated: the same way as everything else in his comic. Despite all of it crappily written. Ultimately she' isn't greeted with her own holiday one hour special episode, she's given the same "care" as everyone else. (Except for Hannelore, obviously. I never gotten over that). It ciuod have been a huge plot point but it wasn't made a big deal just like usual
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>>93409743

Yes, She did it on a whim. No reason whatsoever.
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>>93409743
Yeah. She wanted a nose ring to overcome her fears or something. Marten's like "ew no". And she's like "but it's my decision". And he's all "okay, sweet cheeks" and the conflict ended in 10 seconds
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>>93409560
What comic number was that?
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>>93409976
What was the name of the issue?
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>>93405485
>>93405530

I think there's merit to it being private and the whole 'whether someone has had surgery doesn't define them' thing.

But Claire should be asked the question and explain that in comic. When Jeph just gets mad and says none of your business on twitter people just get mad back because they don't get it. Claire being asked and sticking up for herself makes her look stronger and educates the reader.
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>>93410143
Link to the erection comic?
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One erection, coming up.
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>>93410191
I want to know why nobody's dropped the dime on Claire yet. Clinton knows and so does Claire's mother. Also, what if Claire meets an old friend from school? No dime dropping?

Wasted potential.
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>>93353235
That one chick is getting worse and worse
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>>93410538
>Claire
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>>93408351
>>93408351
I thought it was a stegosaurus
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>>93410360
Haha, she's pimping Steve out
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>>93410360
To be fair, it just looks like she's switching different gestures to look like she's frantically being disturbed by the second. On the first panel, she's resting her elbows on her knees. On the second she lets her arms droop. On the third panel she rests her hand on the board so she can lean on her left arm as support
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>>93402097
>>93400405
Despite the fill-bucket job (with which you can see the outline of his shadow) Marten also still looks like he's trapped in a tiny box.
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>>93385471
you wouldn't have to travel anything if she's just a character being friends with the main cast

but as soon as your main character starts having sex with a man, that raises questions
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