>yfw only 17K in sales

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>>93352901

>Marvel still pushes her

>Cancels Nova though

I feel like Marvel will push her even if she got 1k in sales.

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>>93352944
Nova sold much worse.

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>>93352901
That hair needs to grow back and she needs to slim down a bit

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>>93352954

>>93352901
>Good book gets bad sales
I'm shocked. This has never happened before.

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Her movie is probably the first MCU that I won't bother watching, I hope it's not important lore-wise

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what will the next volume be called?

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>>93353054
Captain Marvel and Spider-Woman

>>93353054
#1.

>>93352944
Marvel will not stop until they get their own wonder woman, comic are probably like less 1% of the money their characters give if compared to merchandise and movies

>>93352901
Well, her immediate company at 17K is Gwenpool, The Sorcerer's Supreme, the Ultimates, and the US Avengers.
Her buddies at 16K include Hawkeye, ChoHulk, and Man-Thing

>>93353096
>Her buddies at 16K include Hawkeye, ChoHulk, and Man-Thing
Don't forget HOLY MENSTRUATION

>>93353096
>a bunch of C listers
Marvel should try a new female face, is clear that captain marvel will never be an icon

>>93352901
same with ms marvel.

can marlel do anything right?

>>93353135
Hot damn, I just noticed that I was looking at a cached comichron page for the April sales.
You are right, America is down there with her.
Looking at the right page now, Nick Fury has met her at 16K on his second issue

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>>93352944
>Mighty Captain Marvel 5 17,164
>Nova 5 14,525

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>>93353168
March 2019

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>>93352944
>nova's creative team takes over on captain marvel
>bring in sam and richard

>>93353168
ALL of marvel's good/interesting female characters are all claremont muties.

phoenix, storm, kitty, rogue, magik, wolfsbane, meggan, psylocke.

they put all their eggs in the x-men basket and now its bit them in the ass.

>try to make a character popular by just having fictional characters talk like she's the best thing ever and hoping that will imprint on the readers
>At the same time have her keep being wholly unlikable, to the point where she tried to become a practical dictator over pre-crime crap, and throws hissy fits when scientists show her she's wrong with actual data.

Carol is a mistake. You can't force this, and you certainly can't force it while making the character a huge douche.

>>93353253
Really funny considering that they threw the xmen under the bus simply for no good reason.

Disney can afford to buy the license back at any point without great concern.

They don't hurt the fox xmen movies doing this, they only hurt themselves.

It's like a kid threatening to hold its breath till it turns blue unless you give it some candy.

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>>93352901
Delet

>>93352901
mosaic - 5,507
unbeatable squirrel girl - 10,999
moongirl - 14,244
gwenpool - 15,624
america - 16,262
totally awesome hulk - 17,742
ms marvel - 18,271

can anyone logically explain to me why these sjw titles aren't all cancelled, when all marvel books that have the exactly same sales or even higher, are?

>>93353240
Yeah because Ant Man surely turned into an a lister right?

>>93353370
Comics don't give money, movies give money so they can push whatever agenda they want because even if no one buy comics a single MCU movie will cover it

>>93353370
Marvel banked too much on these being successful/central to their new image to do what they'd normally do and kill them off.

the embarassment/backlash from the people who thought they would buy those books but didn't is not something they want to deal with.

With moon girl they keep claiming it's selling through non tracked means like crazy, but won't back it up.

>>93353399
Ant-Man's not the leader of the Avengers.

>>93353424
>leader of the Avengers
That's not DC, being the leader of a team in marvel means nothing is literally "who want to be leader now?"

>>93353370
Mosaic is cancelled
America is not long for this world
USG and Moon Girl sell well to non-direct markets
Gwenpool, TAH & Ms. Marvel are all in/near the #20s and are comparatively stable. Plus they're the rare Marvel books with good buzz.

>>93353424
She won't be leader of anything unless audiences love the shit out of her movie or other actors quit.

>>93353455
It's a done deal. Evans is leaving, she's the new Captain.

>>93353322
>Disney can afford to buy the license back at any point without great concern.
Not necessarily. Fox isn't bleeding money like Sony Pictures and knows the X-Men make money, so it's really hard to say what Fox would actually sell the license for.

>>93352944
Nova was way lower

>>93353096
>Gwenpool
>The Sorcerer's Supreme
>Ultimates
>US Avengers
>ChoHulk

It's not fair these books are actually good

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>>93352901

looks like it's almost time to give carol the boot

>>93353424
Being leader doesn't really do any favors to popularity.

>>93353370
>ms marvel - 18,271
>miles still above 30k
but muh waifu is the best and most popular legacy

>>93353507
Most of those titles are actually 1K less now this month, I accidentally used the April numbers, not the May ones. The solicitations today sound like #12 is the final issue for DS: SS

>>93353471
Even if Evans leaves, again, there's nothing set for her at all until the public reacts to her first movie.

This isn't the DCEU where they try to shove something down your throat over and over and keep hoping you'll like it.

>>93353481

Disney could legitimately shit 10 billion dollars tomorrow and barely feel it.

X-men wouldn't cost close to that.

>>93353507
sorry anon only shitty x-books and spidey titles can sell because characterfags run the roost.

>>93353507
so is Carol's

>>93353052
I didnt watch Antman and I feel like I've missed absolutely nothing. As long as you've seen at least the first Avengers movie you'll probably get almost everything that happens in infinity wars since thats how those movies are designed.

>>93353507
>ChoHulk
That's fucking bad and considering it comes from Pak it's really disappointing.

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>>93353063
DO IT MARVEL

So since Wonder Woman was a success, how bad are the chances of NuCarol's movie succeeding as well...?

>>93353252
I still think they should have put Rich on Ultimates and made him their leader.

>>93353934
I could see it going either way. Depends if Disney's marketing is smart enough to not pull a Ghostbusters on it and talk down to people when they advertise it and build up a massive amount of resentment. Wonder Woman already rallied people looking for a female superhero movie, so now everyone's free to call the next one shit because they can point to Wonder Woman and go "Yeah I don't dislike Captain Marvel because she's a woman, see, I like Wonder Woman! But this movie just sucks."

At any rate it has a built-in audience thanks to MCU branding which seems to guarantee that if it flops with the critics/general public, it'll still make like 300 million bare minimum.

>>93353998
America Chavez is already leading.

>>93353026
>Good book
lmao

>>93353998
>put Rich on Ultimates
sure
>and made him their leader
He is too stupid for that. He has experience but rich ain't that good in the smarts that is why world mind and his bro ran the novas for the most part. iirc the thing with brother showed that Rich would be ten times more powerful if he was more creative with powers.

>>93354006
Oh I have no doubt it'll make a massive amount of money, I meant in terms of it HOPEFULLY being bad enough that even casual movie goers can recognize how awful it is.

>>93354020
But she sucks and should die horribly
>>93354042
He assumed the role as "Leader of the Universes Armed Forces" twice. I think he can handle this

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>>93353998

Give him to Ewing? Sure. But isn't that comic selling like ass, too?

>>93354020

Even Ewing can't sell it. She's not leader material and having her lead the smartest and most powerful people on Earth is even harder to believe. She should just get demoted to Champions and have Waid ruin her less than Rivera.

>>93354042
<--------------------

Have Cho draw Captain Marvel every issue. Problem solved.

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>>93354287
Pry Marquez away from Bendis.

>>93354287
Prefer McNiven back when he was allowed to draw breasts bigger than a B-cup

Been ten years and I still can't get Milfy teacher Invisible woman

Everyone is forgetting Kid Kaiju aka another new inhuman character with relevance in a lame event... he achieved the impossible, is selling less than Moon Girl xD

Talking about Moon Girl, I don't know what Marvel did... she was selling 8K every month, but in May she sold 14K, that's weird.

>>93354444
Isn't Star Brand like the worst recent title they had?

>>93354180
>literally worldmine do the thing
Rich got carried largely through his run and the events by the worldmind. Plus the plan failed when Cancer Marv pushed their shit in.

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>He thinks Marvel gives a flying shit about comic sales

Marvel produces comics exclusively to workshop ideas for MCU movies and tv shows at this point. They don't actually care if the books sell as long as the Captain Marvel movie makes 700+ Million

>>93352901
It's almost as if writing a character to be insanely unreasonable and unlikable in a company-wide event while constantly renumbering her book has adverse effects

>>93353014

when will they stop being pussies and give the fans what they really want?

carol with a big fat futa cock.

>>93354571

He came up with the plan, assembled a team of the heavy hitters, and proceeded to get his shit kicked in by the leader of a universe conquering undying horde of cancer zombies. Rich is still a leader due to being in two intergalactic wars.

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>>93354677
Captain Marvel Impregnates the Marvel Universe.

>>93354344
McNiven is even more boring than Cho.

>>93353252
Nah I rather they both take over Champions, the YASSS QUEEN doesn't deserve them.

>>93353998
Rich in Ultimates is good but not sure about him team leader tho because while Rich can lead, he works better as a guy in the front lines who does the dirty work.

>>93354042
Rich is not stupid and he was a General during the Annihilation War and he took care of setting forming the unofficial Annihilators during Thanos Imperative before joining Star-lord so he can definitely lead. Not to mention he found a way to defeat the crazy Worldmind and get his powers back.

He's also good at planning battles and he's quick thinker. He's pretty good at the "wing it till you win it" type of planning when things take him by surprise.

The problem is that he's a guy who tends to like it better when he works solo and he's an impulsive hothead who once he gets an idea of how to do something he goes and does it.

Like when he had the idea of going to kill Annihilus to kill him he went to do it himself with Peter and Phyla running after him.

He will also put himself in danger especially if it prevents others from being in danger and that's a big no no for someone who is a team leader.

>>93352901
Well that's what you get for not giving a shit about substance and just doing everything you can to appeal to the YASSSS queens.

>>93353052
I started not watching with antman

so far I regret nothing

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>>93353014
This

we dont want Zarya

we want Starfire

>>93353370
Squirrel Girl and Ms Marvel do well in trades and digital
Moon Girl may be doing okay because of Scholastic
Mosaic is cancelled
Marvel has also lowered their cancellation level

>>93352901
Who was it that first cut her hair?
How do we blackball them out of the industry? The lesbian market are not exactly big-time comics buyers.

>>93356764
Anka and bendis

>>93352901

MUH LONG HAIRRRRRR MUH BLACK SWIMSUIT FUCKIN MARVEL WHY WON'T THEY CATER TO ME ANYMORE REEEEEEEEE I'LL MAKE TEN MORE THREADS ABOUT THIS ON /CO/ THAT WILL SHOW THEM!!!!!

>>93353088
They had there wonder woman until they sold they X-men to Sony.

>>93356118
>The problem is that he's a guy who tends to like it better when he works solo and he's an impulsive hothead who once he gets an idea of how to do something he goes and does it.
Sounds like he would be a terrible leader of a problem solving group.

>>93359459
You forgot MUH INTERESTING CHARACTERIZATION but you probably meant to leave that out since you're constructing a strawman. No brains allowed!

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>>93352901
>tfw Gwenpool sells even worse

>>93353253
They're really not that interesting either.

>>93353253
Nice meme, the only interesting female character in the X-Men is Emma Frost. Songbird, Moonstone and Elsa Bloodstone are far better than shit like Jean and Kunt Pryde.

>>93353370
>Gwenpool
>SJW
What a stupid meme.

>>93359467
Oh yeah? How many durable solo runs has Storm had? How about Jean or Kitty or Rogue?
None of the X-girls are even close to WW, people just like them as part of an ensemble cast but they have nowhere near the longtime popularity or (even potential) lore WW has.

>>93360035
>Songbird, Moonstone and Elsa Bloodstone
Literally whos.

>>93360094
How many durable solos has Carol had?

>>93360130
So was Wolverine at one point.

>>93360188
A couple.
Regardless my point wasn't that Carol was a good candidate, just that the X-girls are by no means any better.

>>93360194
For like a month, not years on end of being a nobody.

>>93353253
of that list on Rogue is worth getting a solo movie.
The other option would She-Hulk be she is stuck in Universal's limbo

>>93353052
you're what is wrong with the film industry. Ma Marvel Dick, I have a boner for all marvel films. This film will probably suck, but I'll still go see it because of lore.

>He went to see all the Marvel films because of lore, bwahahahahaha!

I bet you saw all the Bayformers films too.

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>>93352901
I'm sure repackaging her with another no.1 relaunch will work this time!

>>93362967
https://youtu.be/OL_TWd-sywk

>>93353370
Marvel charges an ass load for their titles so these books are making the same amount as a dc comic that sells about 29-22k. For marvel to cancel a book with how much they charge you need to look for <12k sales

>>93354756
I'd buy it.

>>93359932
Exactly, he can lead and strategize but as a long term leader, specially of tje Ultimates, he would suck.

>>93353481
>>93353583
Also doesn't help that Disney and Fox apparently hate each other