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Say it with me folks: KELLY

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Say it with me folks:

KELLY
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>>93352679
DOES
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>>93352693

DALLAS
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>>93352709
FEATURING
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>>93352841
KNUCKLES
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>>93352926

AND
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& CHONG
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>>93352937
THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS
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>>93352937
BLUCKLES
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COMING SOON
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>>93352709
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>>93352926
>>93352937
>>93353060
...eh I've seen weirder porn.
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I like how his idea of experiencing foreign culture is going to New Mexico
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>>93353112
I hope your parents smother you in your sleep
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>>93353117
The southern part is basically Mexico just with less cartel violence
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I want a "some idiot" shirt, or just any Kelly shirt in the same vain
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>>93353236
I'd wear a sophisticated adult shirt.
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>>93353236
>>93353638
>not wanting a "Sickos" shirt
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>>93353112
>rage comics
>the current year

Why?
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>>93353192

I went to an all you can eat menudo restaurant in Las Cruces. Shit was tight. Plus, Hatch is cool to buy large amounts of chilies out of a rusted shack.
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>>93353117
New Mexico pretty much IS Mexico once you get south of Albuquerque. Even southern AZ feels more like the US than the bottom half of NM does.
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Where my NMfags at?
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>>93353657
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>>93352679
New Mexico BTFO

Go back to Mexico
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so is he still being ironic here?
because this is 100% accurate.
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>>93355532
When parts of the world get crazy enough, legitimate reports and satire can be indistinguishable.
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>>93353672
>shitting on vintage memes
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>>93352679
Even knowing this is satire, these often annoy me. It made sense when it was parodying actual things that [political party] complained about. Sometimes it would take a legitimate criticism and take it to an absurd extreme; other times it would take a stupid but common criticism and present it in all its dumb glory, complete with a crying statue of liberty.

But recently it seems to just complain about... random nonsense? It seems to criticize things nobody gives a shit about. What's this one about, spicy food? Not only is it not clever, it's not funny anymore. It's sort of just... random whining.

...Christ, Kelly is a 4chan post.
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also I capped this
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>>93355863
Way to miss the joke. The point is to show how overblown political cartoons are by makimg a world where the cartoonist thinks every mundane thing has a deep political agenda behind it.
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>>93355863
Kelly whining about things only Kelly cares about are legitimately the best Kelly comics
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>>93355863
>It seems to criticize things nobody gives a shit about.
>It's sort of just... random whining.
That's what makes it funny
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>>93355902
Nobody asked for this.
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That awkward feeling when you sympathize with a satirical comic over genuine political cartoons
>tfw the politcal comics are LESS subtle than the parody of them
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>>93355956
>Here's thing
>Whoever I don't like says its bad
>God the younger generation is stupid
God I hate political cartoons
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>>93355944
:(
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>>93355532
Is it though? I think the idea is idiots think it's when we talk about it but we only talk about it because of another reason which is generally the cause of all the unrest.
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>>93355956
gotta market towards the lowest possible denominator
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>>93353112
>>93353152
Well I hope he goes ghost
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>>93355532
Ignorance is bliss
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>>93356419
>Is it though?
Yes.
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>>93355956
I can't believe technology is preventing people from having deep, thought-provoking discussions about Barbra Streisand
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>>93355532
>>93356573
You're dumb as shit, son.
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>>93355956
Haha, what is this... minecraft?'
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>>93356579
>Holding your phone sideways for anything except taking landscape photos

Disgusting.
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>>93356419
>I think the idea is idiots
considering you need to resort to labeling and virtue signaling, yes.
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>>93356824
*republicans

Sorry for triggering you.
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>>93356788
>>93356419
Morgan Freeman disagrees. In this world of terrible inertia and bureaucracy, why identify as an oppressed statistic? Is pressing the issue of race really ever a solution to any individual problem in this country? Obviously when you're being overtly fucked with you should react with it, but the world isn't so racist that there's just no opportunity for a black person.
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>>93355956
Who the fuck calls them "Pokemon creatures"?
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>>93356866
As if it wasn't clear enough you're gravitating to complain about conservativism. You can work around the concept of race without being a religious right republican, you know.
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>>93356955
The same type of guy who thinks dad's read bedtime stories to their kids out of a hardbound tome, that kids sleep in a four poster bed with a wooden backboard in the center of the wall, and that the best way to show that a kid likes Pokémon Go is to have a T-shirt saying so stiffly lying on a chair.
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>>93356924
>an actor said x so it must be true!

Not discussing an issue doesn't somehow make it go away, and since I'm guessing you don't get out much, I'll give you an example you can understand. /co/ gets a lot of live-action threads, which some argue belong on /tv/; does not discussing the prospect of moving those threads to /tv/ magically make them disappear? No, and there's no guarantee that discussing it will change anything because mods don't do shit, but it has an impact over doing virtually nothing.
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>>93356986
Really, all you could pull out was comparing race relations to forum moderation? Golly. Also yes you are free to ignore the threads you don't like, you discontent hall monitor.
Obviously we know what you mean, that problems don't get solved unaddressed, the issue is whether or not an individual will benefit in his own life by bashing his head against the brick wall of race. Both apply, there's a time and a place, but the race card is a tool that won't always work for you just because you pulled it. I think it's actually called racism to allow your psychology to be dominated by concepts of race.
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>>93357029
Okay, but that's not the fucking point of the original comic. Of course there's a time and place for something, but the joke from said Kelly strip is that you should never discuss race EVER because it will lead to conflict.
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>>93357029
you can't be this retarded
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>>93353117
It' a good parody of how most Americans actually think
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>>93356579
my god we're missing out on such thrilling conversations as 'how old is Barbra Streisand'?!

Truly something has been lost
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>>93357089
Not him. But.
It did just now when you brought it up. Race was brought up and it turned into conflict immediately. You got angry yourself, and started flinging insults.

Just like in the comic.
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>>93357175
welcome to 4Chan
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>>93357175
Anon... I'm not the one who posted it. If anything, the supposed irony would fall right back to the one agreeing with it.
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>>93357193
The conflict started when the topic shifted from the comic to race.
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>>93357141
What's retarded about saying there are benefits to living free from the concept of race? Race is a collectivist meme that is at war with individualism.
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>>93357229
I agree bringing race up at every opportunity and conflating everything with race is somewhat of a Marxist idea of one group always being oppressed by the other.

However. Race is going to be a concept in humans as long as we are human. The ability to see patterns even where there are none means we will be beholden to certain prejudices whether we like it or not. That doesn't make us bad people. But it's not something we can unlearn or turn off. It would be foolish to believe if we try hard enough we can stop it. Like saying if you try hard enough you can change your hair color. It's a part of your brain and DNA as much as your eye color.
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>>93357278
So what you're saying is that race is a human affliction that naturally alters our animal psychology to gravitate towards it, and begs our transcendence from it?
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>>93357278
>it's not something we can unlearn or turn off

I disagree, humanity is a hugely adaptive species, behaviour and ways of thinking can be hugely ingrained into someone. It wasn't that long ago that prejudices against the irish and italians were as bad as those against black people. If you bring people up in an environment where race is not an issue, then race will not be an issue to them
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>>93357311
Almost. To transcend it I believe is both not possible and naive.

You can't make us stop being what we are but you can strive for a society that is equitable and fair. Asking or requiring people to not be human is inviting disaster. Like a monkey's paw. Our humanity has the weakness of this bias. But allows a greater civilization to form. Not because of it. But despite it. More importantly, making just laws is as good as you'd want without stripping away humanity. Trying to legislate our beliefs is both impossible and wrong. Yes Anon. There are racists. But that's not a belief you can make illegal even if you wanted to. I'd be terrified of what such an attempt might look like.
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>>93357329
Yep, exactly. Note how quickly the choice of acknowledging racism leads to insisting racism is our inescapable true nature and that the only thing to do is observe and abide by it. Obviously we all have good intentions here, but asserting the importance of engaging in race struggle pretty much summons the entirety of racism to whatever room you're in, which is exactly opposite of the goal.
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>>93357329
Humanity's adaptibility comes from that same pattern recognition. Which generalization is a form of.

Those same racist views on the Irish disappeared not because people stopped having ANY racial biases. But because more and more people were born who developed different ones. On some level, you will have some biases. Always. People with biases against the Irish still exist today. Just less. And less here.
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>>93357474
>Yep, exactly. Note how quickly the choice of acknowledging racism leads to insisting racism is our inescapable true nature
Unfortunately truel.

>and that the only thing to do is observe and abide by it
Nobody said this and you need stop putting words in people's mouths right now.
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>>93357474
>opposing racism causes racism

the idea isn't that racism and prejudice will just go away, a race struggle is there to educate people to inequality and reduce as much as possible. Ideally the over awareness of race will fade in time when some semblance of equality is reached

(also this seems like a pretty civilised conversation about race, don't you think?)
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>>93357172
BUT HOW OLD IS SHE?!
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>>93357558
I'll check with my smartphone
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>>93357538
>the idea isn't that racism and prejudice will just go away, a race struggle is there to educate people to inequality and reduce as much as possible
There's nothing wrong with wanting to increase parity of the law.

> Ideally the over awareness of race will fade in time when some semblance of equality is reached
However no amount of equal treatment under the law will change that people will have innate biases. We largely have racial legal parity. But people remain racist. Because that's a side effect of the human brain. Not something I want, but, it's something that's not going to vanish from human consciousness.
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>>93357432
We're obviously talking about different things, I'm talking about invoking racism in social and personal situations, you're talking about government. It's troubling to me that you and some people think the only thing to do is either try and 'legislate racism away' or nothing. Self-responsibility to results is the only energy by which racism is solved. Our minds our pliable, and we should be wise to use them as the tools they are and banish the mental procedures that lead to racial tension. Not because some superstructure government wants you to, but because we're semi-limited beings that move from situation to situation, and re-iteration of conflict in the rooms we find ourselves in begs that conflict's continued happening.
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>>93357599
>It's troubling to me that you and some people think the only thing to do is either try and 'legislate racism away' or nothing.
Pretty sure I said the opposite; that I wanted to avoid that at all possibilities.

> Self-responsibility to results is the only energy by which racism is solved. Our minds our pliable, and we should be wise to use them as the tools they are and banish the mental procedures that lead to racial tension.
Mostly. I don't believe though you're going to remove the mechanism in the brain that causes and enables it. How you act on it, however is totally within your power and it should be something we endeavor to curtail.

> Not because some superstructure government wants you to, but because we're semi-limited beings that move from situation to situation, and re-iteration of conflict in the rooms we find ourselves in begs that conflict's continued happening.
can't really disagree.
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>>93357584
I didn't mention the law at all, education can be as simple as people just becoming more familiar around people of different races/cultures. Since discrimination comes from ignorance and painting all individuals from a similar background with the same brush and familiarity humanises what was previously a faceless mass of people it seems like the best method to reduce any kind of discrimination.

Obviously this sort of thing isn't going to happen overnight or even in the space of one generation but if we know the solution then it will certainly help to smooth and speed up the process.

There are multiple examples in history where differing people that once hated each other have since been mingled in a setting where they are equals and the hatred has faded over time
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>>93357538
The reason why racial struggle doesn't just go away is because racists keep invoking it, whether that's a white or black guy who chooses to operate on the paradigm that the black condition is under the government's boot. Of course there will always be some mundane fucker who isn't with the program, and who will hold on tight to that context for war when it shows up because that's his relationship with it, but then he's just another soldier in the race war. Is that context necessary for legal reform? The bigger problem, if we're talking about the laws, is political disinterest in muckraking and moving away from the hegemony that installed those politicians to power. All that's truly called for here is more wise, selfless politicians, which is made unlikely by the brutality of the job.
The continued existence of racism is due to a prolonged absence of someone of inspiring psychological liberty. There is a miraculous solution here that we are all not seeing.

And yes, this is a good-faith civilized conversation about race, I've got nothing truly against any of you, we're clearly just expressing our psychologies to eachother and fleshing out better ways to respond to race conflict.
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>>93353236
>>93353638
>>93353657
It's okay. You are allowed to be jelly.
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>>93357693
And that's reasonable. But from the same token, unless every person is intimately familiar with every other ethnicity in their own daily lives on some level they're going to form biases based on limited experiences. The only way to completely remove that would be to expose every person at any given time to every other type of person.

You can't even ensure you can get every person to know someone of every race everywhere. Because by the same mechanisms of forming these biases we tend to segregate ourselves. We can't make everyone everywhere co-mingle for a protracted period of time.

Some racial tensions may ease over time. But others may worsen. As long as there are any two people who are different from each other at first glance, humans are going to put each in their own separate place in their mind. Even if it's not unpleasant. Even if it's fair. Nobody will see any two people of different races the same way. It won't kill us. It won't even necessarily cause suffering or strife. But it'll always be there. Things are largely improving I'd say. But I don't think anything in our brains or how we view people has changed. Just a natural progression towards more people trying to live together peaceably, whether or not we enjoy it it, as our society grows to be in more contact with more people.

And that's another natural human tendency we have. Humans have a natural desire for a civilization and the cohesion of groups.
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>>93357089
No, the joke from the Kelly strip is that you should never discuss race EVER because it annoys ignorant people.
That is LITERALLY (using it correctly) the joke.
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>>93357917

>And that's another natural human tendency we have. Humans have a natural desire for a civilization and the cohesion of groups.
I should add, civilization was the natural progression of humanities need to create order and structure. Not out of any willingness.
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>>93357917
>You can't even ensure you can get every person to know someone of every race everywhere

well for the most part you don't need to, racism is at its most harmful when its against people you regularly interact with or share an environment with

>Some racial tensions may ease over time. But others may worsen.

Improvements in education and social planning should be able to prevent tensions form worsening, we're living in an era where these problems should be easier to deal with than ever (in theory)
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>>93355902
>>93355944
I didn't ask for this, but it's a nice historical document.
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>>93358046

>Improvements in education and social planning should be able to prevent tensions form worsening, we're living in an era where these problems should be easier to deal with than ever (in theory)
Personally, I feel that might be going a bit too far.

But realistically, that's likely to happen. The individual desires judgement; to be observed and understood.
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>>93357876
>Okay to be jelly
Damn, I kind of am
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>>93357876
I am jelly.
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>>93357876
i am not just jelly, i'm straight up aspic
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>>93353112
hi summer
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>>93353112
less than half an hour before the first day of summer
god you're fucking punctual
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>>93357329
>humanity is a hugely adaptive species
We have to really define what constitutes a human in order to protect it from its lookalikes.
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>>93360290
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>>93356980
That's all true for me though, except it was usually a dinosaur or monster truck shirt lying on the floor.
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>>93358841
>>93359988
>>93360085
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>look up ward sutton's(the guy who makes kelly) comics
>they're the exact thing he's parodying
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>>93360386
Yeah wow, I wonder how much he knows he's pandering in his other work.
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>>93360290
>>93360328

wtf i hate black people now
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>>93355532
This is accurate.

Even among my peers, people get along until race gets involved then everyone starts getting salty.
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>>93352679
HACK
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>>93355532
The irony here is that he only drew stereotypes
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>>93356815
you might just be retarded, my friend.
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>>93362102
SICKO
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>>93352709
SALLAD
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>>93357558
Way old
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>>93356419
>/co/mblr
Next you're gonna say BLM is a legitimate protest
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