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>It's a christians reject modern medicine episode

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>It's a christians reject modern medicine episode
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>>93327162
I dare them to mock muslims.
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>>93327162
>it's a the Jews are good people, I swear... Episode.
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>>93327162
Jehovah's aren't actually Christians. They deny Christ as god and are some weird form of Jewish Millerites.
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>>93327162
>idiot christians do idiot things that sensible christians were smart enough not do in the same episode

what's the problem?
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>>93327162
if god wanted you to be healthy, he would never have made you sick
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>>93329195

OP couldn't get (you)s if he framed it accurately.
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>>93329143
>and are some weird form of Jewish Millerites
Please lecture the class on how Michael Jackson was a kike
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>>93327162
>its an "internet autist puts too much faith in SCIENCE! because he is easily confused and browses reddit regularly" episode
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>>93329143

No religion belives that Christ is god dumbass
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>>93330190
>It's a guy with no name in the internet desperate to look superior to strangers he will never meet episode
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>>93327162
Moral Oral is basically what my childhood was like, so I have a hard time mocking it without sobbing
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>>93330303
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"-Mark 14:62 . . .
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>>93330359
You lie.

Orel would never end up here.
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>>93330303
>It's a Catholics aren't Christians episode
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>>93330303
You underestimate the ignorance of Protestants.
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>>93330595
I don't even know what you're trying to say, but I already know you're a faggot
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>>93330352
lol you think im desperate because im mocking you. why do redditers always default to autistic defense mechanisms like this?
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>>93330303
Nigga, do you not understand the concept of the Trinity?

Well, nobody does because it's nonsense, but the nonsense explanation EXPLICITLY says that The Father and The Son are the same being. Haven't met anybody who knows what the fuck The Holy Ghost actually is though.
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>>93330676
>Haven't met anybody who knows what the fuck The Holy Ghost actually is though.
Almost like Christianity is bullshit, like all religions are
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>>93330676
the holy ghost is souls
>>93330735
you have legitimate brain damage

my proof: you are obsessed with cartoons yet you think people are stupid for having faith in something their ancestors had faith in.
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>>93330767
>people are stupid for having faith in something their ancestors had faith in.
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>>93330767
>believing in an angry sky man makes you rain damaged
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>>93327162
Did this thread ever have a chance at not turning into fedora vs /pol/ shitflinging?
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>>93327162
I remember this episode. It was so heavy handed and annoying to watch that I couldn't finish it.
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>>93330826
>its a "/co/ posters prove yet again that too much cartoons will, in fact, rot your brain" episode
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>>93330857
>implying religion isn't the opiate of the masses
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>>93329013
Thinking Moral Orel is a show about bashing Christians is literally the most pleb opinion.
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>>93329143
>Jehova' witnesses are part Jew
Accurate as fuck. They don't celebrate Christmas, birthdays etc because they can't give gifts to celebrate anything. It has to be for "just because" i.e. You won't ever get shit from them.
>>93330676
I was raised Christian and was never taught the trinity was one big thing but three separate entities. Supposedly the Holy Ghost is the angel of death? Nobody had a straight answer.
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>>93327162
I've been meaning to rewatch Morel Orel but I forgot this happened. Now I'm not so sure.
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>>93331857
Good, please stay away from the series.
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>>93331768
In old school Catholicism, they are very much the same thing. At least that's what my mom always said the nuns at her school used to beat into her.
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>>93331885
;)
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>>93330894
>implying the opiates aren't already in your brain

I thought you fedoras are all about materialistic determinism
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>>93331953
If you want to waste hd space with a series you aren't going to rewatch because a memory of it triggered you then be my guest.
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>>93330857
>Implying Television isn't more real the reality
>>93330805
>>93330894
>Not having faith in television

Make your way down to the nearest Cathode Ray Mission.
The television screen has become the retina of the mind's eye.
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>>93332032
I was memeing before anon. Honestly, seeing this thread was the motivation I needed to actually seek out a download.
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>>93330303
That is literally the entire fucking point of Christianity. Get that Arian bullshit out of here.
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>>93329013
no one wants to get killed anon.
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>>93329013
Family Guy has a lot of those, but on the other hand:
Is it really that strange that western writers who probably grew up experiencing the less appealing parts of Christianity first hand, tend focus on it?

I'm sure in a few generations we'll see a more even spread.
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>>93330676
>Nigga, do you not understand the concept of the Trinity?
>Well, nobody does because it's nonsense, but the nonsense explanation EXPLICITLY says that The Father and The Son are the same being. Haven't met anybody who knows what the fuck The Holy Ghost actually is though.
The Trinity isn't in the Bible.

Trinity was created specifically to settle theological debates. Because early on with Christian sects there were groups who decided they will worship Jesus exclusively and SEPARATELY from his father, who is very much a dick and psycho with anger management issues.

Now, the whole point of Abraham religion is to keep everyone on the same page worshipping one entity, because that allows you to be all on the same page and thus easier to form armies to murder other religion's followers.

So the Trinity was created by Catholicism. An entirely synthetic creation that ban any attempt to treat Jesus as a separate god from his dad. Tat even though the Bible never made that claim, the Chruch decided it is best to preend Jesus and his father are one and the same, to keep the old testament god relevant.

After all, if people don't worship the old testament god anymore, there will be no religious justification for waging war. So Jesus and the New Testament is chained to the old ways forever.
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>>93330303
Allow me to make this easy for you to understand.
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>>93330303
>he doesn't understand how the Trinity works
Arius pls go
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>>93327162
But they do. Christians oppose vaccinations and believe that prayer cures disease. A hardcore Christian guy that I went to school with spent five years with cancer talking about how God would save him until he fucking died.

>>93329013
>b...but Muslims

Nobody but projecting right wing retards give a shit about Muslims in America. Christians have way more power and do way more damage here.
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Rabid christians on 4chan? would've figured the people who end up here knew that god is dead / non existent a long time ago.

he can come out any time he likes and start the visual miracles any time he likes, the swaying of the masses was surely just a side effect.

aaaaaaaany time.
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>>93332244

>Fidget spinner analogy

So it's finally come to this.
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>>93330671
Atheists are convinced they can't be fooled because they're so smart lmfao
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>>93332295
or maybe he'll just stay in his heaven, far away from a prick like you
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>>93330303
You are a retard, aren't you?
>Christians worship Christ as their lord, god, and savior
>literally has Christ in the fucking name
Maybe some ultra cultists from nowhere, Kansas somehow hold the thought of worshipping Christ as God, yet don't acknowledge him as THE God, but they are scarcely representative of Christians as a whole
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>>93332377
Not that guy but I always felt it was weird them being the same being.
Then he sacrifice himself to himself for a loophole in the rules he created.
And then there's all the times he talks to himself or mention himself in third person.
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>>93332493
It's supposed to be weird. The Trinity is holy mystery. Understanding it is explicitly impossible through reasoning, only through revelation.

God isn't a simple bearded old dude sitting on a cloud, he's a theological MC Escher painting.
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>>93332493
>Not that guy but I always felt it was weird them being the same being.
>Then he sacrifice himself to himself for a loophole in the rules he created.
>And then there's all the times he talks to himself or mention himself in third person
Those who worship Jesus but not his father was excommunicated.

>>93332569
>It's supposed to be weird. The Trinity is holy mystery. Understanding it is explicitly impossible through reasoning, only through revelation.
No, because Trinity was not part of the Bible so you have no right to hide it using theology. It is flatout a fabrication of the Church to stop schisms.
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>>93332493
It doesn't seem weird if you're a Pantheist. God is all things. Therefore all things are God. and divinity is irreducible. We are all both God and the son of God because we are all part of the universe and were born from the universe.
Jesus let himself be sacrificed to convince others that salvation is obtainable. Its obtainable because he said so, and we can choose to believe it. Him dying in agony rather than renouncing what he believed was just to make his argument more convincing. Because salvation is when you realize you don't need salvation, freeing you from the anxiety that comes from worrying if you can gain salvation or not.
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>>93332581
You flat out have no idea what you're talking about. Trinity as a concept predates the Nicene church, and it caused a shit ton of schisms by itself.

Christianity does not begin and end with the Bible. Fuck of with that fundamentalist bullshit.
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>>93332280
>Christians have way more power and do way more damage here.
How many building have christians blow up?
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>>93330671
>lol
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>>93332280
>When you made yourself more retarded than /pol/

I can't believe someone is this brain damaged just because they disagree with right-wing shitposting in a John Cena stealth appreciation forum.
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>>93329013
A few have dared. Family Guy and Drawn Together
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>>93332690
how many people have been put to death and/or subjected to inhumane suffering because of laws established by Christians?
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>>93330676
My uncle told me as a kid that he once met the Holy Ghost at a wedding and it sounded like a train coming through the room

Scared me. My uncle was a weird fuck. He was also Jewish so I dunno wtf was up with him
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>>93332244
So God is for autists?
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>>93332244
if fidget spinners are christian, are tazos jewish and pogs zoroastrian?
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>>93332690
Several, they burned several cities, namely Jerusalem.
They bombes several times in ireland for an example.
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>>93332667
>You flat out have no idea what you're talking about. Trinity as a concept predates the Nicene church, and it caused a shit ton of schisms by itself.
Well of course, because it is natural that people would want to worship the Son. Who the hell wanted to worship the Father? It's just that it would no longer be monotheism if it was allowed. The excommunications that occurred was necessary to maintain military strength. Can't defeat your enemies in war without it.
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>>93332734
>sounded like a train coming through the room
sounds like a standard jewish wedding
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>>93332726
Ask the people burnt as witches?
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>>93332777
>burnt
they were hanged to death, and their dead bodies burnt
nice trips though
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>>93332280
I always wonder what's going through people's minds when they defend Mudslaps.
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>>93327162
>die of illness and spend eternity in heaven
>lie through medicine and spend eternity in hell
Get lost healthcucks.
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>>93332762
You still have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>93332201
Shhh,dont break the /pol/ narrative with pesky logic,it's (((the people i dont like))) who are to blame
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>>93331857
Third season is heartwrenching. You will need to hug your parents afterwards
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>>93332244
Oh my fuck Hylia and the triforce and 3 goddesses make sense to me now
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>>93332690
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_States

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

Christfags have blown up way more shit than Muslims in the US
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>>93332787
Not as i learned, many were put on trial by fire alive.
Maybe in america and in modern times they got hanged?

>trips
Just one number afar from the devils number, lol.
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>>93331857
Really all you need to do for Moral Orel is watch the first few episodes then go straight to the hunting trip ep.

It drops the LMAO CHRISTIANs angle and becomes one of the most feelz shows I've ever seen.

It also isn't anti-Christian, the show ends

with the priest being one of the more sympathetic/rational figures and Orel continuing to go to church with his happy family
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>>93332794
Benefit of the doubt?
Dont generalise this much, thinking outside the boxes?
And i dont mind giving them a free pass.
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>it's a people on the Internet pretend to be pedophile protecting creationists because people on other websites have worn hats and now it's not even possible to tell who is trolling who anymore thread
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>>93332035

>I just watched videodrome

stay in the 80's please
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>>93332839
I'd rather just take it all in again. All the dark aspects are more potent when you watch all of it be played for laughs prior.

>>93332821
It wasn't really that bad the first time. Media just doesn't really trigger much emotion from me, however some of season 3 did get a single tear out of me.
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>>93332794
I will never understand the delusional ignorance of Christfags. They believe everything Muslims do, except Christians love to gorge themselves on pork. If you just changed the name of "Sharia Law" to "FREEDUM LAW GIT R' DUN JEWS DID 9/11" they'd agree with every bit of it.
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>>93332873
>>93332847
Again, I wonder. I guess my journey continues.
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I M

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C H U R C H
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>>93332829
Kek, I think you're forgetting something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks
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>>93327162
>it's a trolls have never seen Moral Orel so take the thread into a shitty direction instead of discussing the series
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>>93332881
Your journey will continue until you find a strawman that matches the answer you wanted
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>>93332897
Moral Orel is pure religion kino. It's also not remotely anti-christian, albeit any dogmatism.

The spiritual message of the series is in the season 3 episode "grounded" where the grand revelation Orel has is that god is within everyone individually.

The emotional message is much more complicated, mostly that repressing something leads to fucked up shit.
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>>93332850
The funniest part is that's hardly an oversimplification.
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>>93332924
>The emotional message is much more complicated, mostly that repressing something leads to fucked up shit.

Seriously. The show is barely even mocking organised religion let alone Christianity in particularly. Season 3 in particular is barely even about Christianity and for all his flaws, Reverend Putty is by the end of the show basically the only good and redeemable figure left apart from Orel himself.
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>>93332971
>tfw the last scene of the series is adult Orel and his happy family going to see Putty's sermon on Christmas
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>>93327162
The episode of Babylon 5 that did this was pretty intense. The doctor did it anyway and then the family murdered their son because they saw him as an abomination.
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>>93333064
>Today's Christmas sermon is about family. What is family? Well, a lot of times, family is just a bunch of people who are forced to be together just because they came out of each other, but every so often...a miracle happens. A loving family, just like that—out of nowhere. Now, what causes this? A belief in God, a strong moral structure, blind luck? Who knows? Who cares? Ah, you're not gonna get any answers out of me. I'm just a puppet for the Big Guy. I don't write this stuff. The end. I mean, Amen. Nah, who am I kidding? The end.
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>>93332850
>grrr how dare they make me feel concerned, I will virtue signal them and indirectly call them pedo racist nazi, that will tell them.
Time to wake up """""sweety""""
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>>93332971
But isn't Putty pathetic,shallow, and bullshits his crap to Orel?

Like the only time I remember him being decent was at the end of Close Face
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>>93330303
Really eager to hear why you think this. Explain yourself.
>>93330629
You underestimate your own ignorance
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>>93332889
Inside jobs don't count, how convenient a government that needs war to tax their citizens happens to find a reason to launch a "war on terror".
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>>93332760
What are Zoroastrian?
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>>93332214
>John1:1 + 1:3
> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
>The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

It's in there. The word is one with god, and Christ is the word made manifest. Believe what you like, but a little religious education is helpful even nowadays.
The point of the Trinity is to re-iterate the singularity of God. The boon of monotheism lies in tracing the universe's natural chain of command to a single source.
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>all the people arguing in this thread that Jesus cant be God, not realizing that all things are God, and they themselves too are God
No really. All we are is writ upon the timeless natural law that created this universe, the recipe for our selves is stored eternally within lawsnof this universe. Only in this physical world do things seem split, by ego and flesh, but without the petty time and space that defines our mortal being, there is absolutely no differentiation between created elements. There is a singular, unchanging factor, that repeatedly applies to the universe's ever-changing variables, that moves each moment forward in time. You and I and all people are one in the singular fact of creative cognizance. Don't let your ego blind you. You are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, God.
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>>93333484
Rewatch the series. He's a sad, lonely and depressed man who is shallow, but unlike everyone else by the final series is able to recognise true virtue and goodness in Orel.
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The reason people insult Christianity is because no one fears if. If it actually started killing people arbitrarily it would get places.
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>>93333643
>and they themselves too are God
I smell a heretic. Where's my pitchfork?
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>>93333760
Isn't the state of heaven oneness with God?
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>>93333713
>it would get places
It's already gotten places. Now it can settle down on its laurels and enjoy the prosperity of a people who believe it because their ancestors got converted by word or by sword, or by both, centuries ago. Who cares what some fedoras say on the internet? You've got it made. It's like how Fox allows the Simpsons. Who gives a shit what people think about you, they're still coming to you to suck your dick for a fix.
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>>93327162
>>93329122
>>93329013
You guys are morons.

There are two major Christian sects that reject modern medicine, the Jehova's Witnesses and the Christian Scientists, both of whom believe in the power of prayer over scientific procedure. There are over 8.3 million Jehova's Witnesses worldwide, and they actively proselytize so you're likely to know them no matter where in the world you live. There are fewer Christian Scientists (they're the ones who run those Christian Science Reading Rooms full of crap and woo about crystals) but they too are worldwide, and their method of proselytizing is also capable of reaching wide numbers of people. There's more than one CS sect, too.

They're by definition anti-vax, so they're by definition dangerous (though there are those within the sects who, as with any other sect, don't take the teachings all that seriously). Teach kids the danger of anti-science fundamentalists by an example that's universally transferable (rather than using religious groups who may not have any presence in Bumfuck, IL) and they learn to recognize the dangers in the world around them.

Also, Morel Orel was your go-to image to start this obvious troll thread? Have a little self respect, OP.
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>>93333713
yeah that's working out so well for Ireland
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>>93333776
That doesn't mean you become God or a part of God. The state of marriage is oneness with your spouse, but you don't fuse into a singular being.
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>>93332280
>all Christians are the same
>I read it on the internet, it's true
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>>93333578
>The point of the Trinity is to re-iterate the singularity of God.
Or to translate it, it is to prevent the loss of monotheism. As in, it is synthetic and crated for a purpose for the protection of the church. That's what happens when Jesus became more popular than his dad.
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>>93333782
Yes, and the only place you'll find polio is the Muslim world because muslim preachers decided vaccinations were a conspiracy to sterilise Muslims.
American and Western leftists fucking love obsessing over splinters only to play down or dismiss the motes in the Muslim world's eyes.
Your obsession is leading to a dangerously distorted view of the world where religious fanatics are allowed to take over entire countries because they have brown skin and it would be racist to criticise them.
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>>93333782
Can a vaccinated person contract a disease they've been vaccinated against, from a person who hasn't?
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>>93333776
Bitch this ain't hinduism
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>>93334058
>Your obsession is leading to a dangerously distorted view of the world where religious fanatics are allowed to take over entire countries

Pretty sure those religious fanatics took over those countries because we put them in power, bud.
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why does every moral orel thread have to end up like this
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>>93334266
Because /co/ is filled with young people who have wounded relationships with religion and philosophy, who haven't awakened to self-determination and adulthood.
Remember kids, not everything you hear is a holy order from mother.
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Why are christfags the most annoying posters on the site?
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>>93334109
...are you serious?
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>>93334335
Because they invoke challenging themes of purpose and a relationship with divinity
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From what I understand, Jesus was the leader of an anti-establishment esoteric preacher who was crucified and hence made into some sort of deity by arseholes like Paul and the early Church Fathers which thus shattered the purity of his teachings and instead turned them into tools for authority and social power.
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>>93334375
Are you just mixing random words together, or are you actually trying to communicate something?
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>>93334370
Fucking educate me you information hoarder
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>>93334401
Religion calls people to action. I'm not saying you're a lazy inactive person without it, but that's what religion does. It's one of its main functions. I think both atheists and theists can agree that religion is an attempt at a kick in the ass. Of course it'll cause a divisive conversation.
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>>93334440
No, in most cases you can't get sick from the thing you were vaccinated against, hence the vaccination.
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>>93334454
Maybe it gets people riled up, but it certainly doesn't get them active. The most obese states in the US are also the most religious.
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>>93334468
So are anti-vaxxers dangerous to anyone but their selves, their children, and anyone who agrees to join them?
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>>93334479
I hate to say it but "religion" in the United States, especially the sort present in the Bible Belt, is utter trash. It's not really "religion" in the actual sense of trying to live a life in accordance with the Divine, but rather the lame, superficial identifier that people use as a shallow veil for their own arbitrary moral and cultural values.

If you go to any legitimately *religious* group (the Amish, Quakers, Sikh temples, migrant churches, etc.) the people there are always incredibly welcoming and engaged. There's a certain sense of responsibility to your fellow man that's hard to put into words.
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>>93327162
weird, I'm christian, pope licking and all that and I've never heard of anyone rejecting medicine because God told them to, in fact last sunday at my church we had a bingo to raise funds for a very poor girl who needs some surgery on her legs.
are you sure this is not an American thing only? you know, like bible rubbing and witch burnings?
I swear to God you guys have the most bizarre variations of christianity I've ever see, those fucking mormons and snake charmers are fucking nuts
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>>93334479
Yeah religion has a variety of effects on people, middle American Christianity produces a lot of slobs, but there are plenty of balanced people who live by it too.
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>>93334545
This. It's a shame so much of American religion has given religion at large such a bad name.
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>>93334335
Because they aren't actually christians but guy pretending to be christian because it make them feel more /pol/.
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>>93334538
There are people who are unable to get vaccines for medical reasons (weak immune systems or shit like that) who rely on herd immunity to be protected from the diseases most people are vaccinated against. If the number of vaccinated people declines enough they are put in greater jeopardy.

Now of course you can take the position "they should die anyway", but that's not where most people are coming from.
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>>93334604
Okay got it, that makes sense.
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>>93334248
>Pretty sure those religious fanatics took over those countries because we put them in power, bud.
[citation needed]. No wait, don't bother. I know you're just going to spout some Russian agitprop about funding al-Qaeda, but that shows such a basic lack of knowledge about the Afghan War I'm not even going to bother debunking it.
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>Atheists reject everlasting life

Guess who wins in the end.
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>>93334759
Buddhists?
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>>93334759
The Demiurge
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>>93334812
Dude guess what I found out if I sit long enough it feels like I'm dead
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>>93334826
>not wanting to feel dead

How else are you going to pretend to be a spoopy ghost
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>>93334855
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it. Nothing quite like temporary killing myself for a little break.
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>>93327162
I fucking hate this trope
>white guy refuses modern medicine: He faces the consequences
>Non white refuses western medicine: He is praised by the writers
Steve Jobs refused western medicine for his very curable cancer, and his stupid ass herbal treatment killed him.
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>>93332201
>I'm sure in a few generations we'll see a more even spread.
Probably not. No one wants to get hebdo'd
Face it, people respect violence, and Islam is all about violence
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>>93334547
Funny how when letting shitty extremist branches of your religion migrate over to the new world and grow in power leads to a climate of retarded religious variations
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>>93332873

Wait, if Christians and Muslims are identical and believe all the same things, why the fuck would anyone that believes in modern progressive values be hyper critical of one while embracing the other?
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>>93335038
Because what your imagining literally never happens.
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>>93335087

Literally, huh? That sure is a confident response. Are you sure it LITERALLY never happens?
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>>93332762
lordt i can smell your neckbeard
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>>93330676
I think you mean Space Ghost.
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>>93332829
>all right-wingers are Christians
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>>93334545
>not really religion in the sense of trying to live a life in accordance with the divine
>Christians are literally taught to try to live like Jesus
Source: I go to church
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>>93333777
Why has nobody checked this yet?
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>>93335038
Different routes to the same place. Not sure if this is a good example, but compare Italian food made in different countries. They should be the same but the cultural taste slips in.
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>>93332873
Your hilarious rage and confusion is because you don't know what you're talking about. Islam and Christianity are vastly different. Christianity believes in personal reconciliation with the Divine through pursuit of The divine individual seen through the living corporeal manifestation of God. Islam believes in following God's chief prophet (who is a human and is not God Himself) and his plan for the incarnation of a holy world.
They really are different. Also you're assuming every religious person is entirely fundamental. You should educate yourself, because you're really acting like a wounded animal.
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>>93332971
There's quite a few characters more redeemable than Putty. Nurse Bendy and Goth-Sex-Store-Girl are both better people that do less bad shit over the course of the series.
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>>93335038
Because modern progressivism is entirely informed by the apologetics and self-disciplined humanism that Christianity was forced to develop after it won so fucking hard that it started to feel like the bad guy.
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>>93332829
Something tells me that you don't have a problem with Christian liberals.
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>>93335526
All Christians deserve to die
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>>93333484
He's shallow sometimes, but he does do a good job as Reverend, and helping people to the degree a Reverend should. I think the best example is after Orel's hunting trip, where he plans to give a sermon on Hope, only to find literally nobody in the church has hope left, not even Orel. He turns it around into a sermon on Hopelessness and how things will turn out OK, and you can't be hopeless.

I think a lot of people underrate Putty because we usually see him interacting with Orel, the little know-it-all that wants to ask a million weird questions that WILL misinterpret anything you try to tell him. He does good by his daughter, and as a Reverend he can give the people hope and faith, which is all he really needs to do.
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>>93335543
Why?
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>>93334978
>Non white refuses western medicine: He is praised by the writers
I can only think of one episode of anything that does this, the Quantum Leap where Bakula has to carry a medicine man to the territory of his reservation to die of cancer.
Even then, the geezer still dies.
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>>93330676
>>93330767
>>93331768
>>93332734
it's one of the many "mistranslations" of the Old King version that people never corrected. Holy Ghost isn't what the original words translated into. In Hebrew it should be "Great/divine/holy guest" and in Greek it was something closer to "Witness of divine" these didn't go over well with translators then because the wording implied this was a full outsider to God and company which open a mess if there could be more gods then the one we are told to worship so it got hack away to holy spirit/holy ghost to not have to deal with meta narratives it open up. Another fun one is how everyone in the New testament took a hard name change to make it more approachable to the common man of the time, and Satan should literal translate "the accuser" which was changed because it implied autonomy of himself and his angels which again, makes this whole human existence thing very hair because most of it hinges on God gave us free will first and that made us unique. If it turns out that no, the angels have it too then this opens all kinda of meta doors, like is God just having a revolving cycle of:
create mortals with free will
turn the loyal ones to angels
cast out the sinful ones
???
Profit

If you can spend time deconstructing the letters of the new testament from their "modern" translations back to what was originally there, it gets real fucking interesting.
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>>93332873

>I will never understand the delusional ignorance of Christfags. They believe everything Muslims do

You sure about that?
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>>93335636
Hell yeah dude. I wish everyone knew how to meditate on this stuff.
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>>93334759
the people lucky enough to be born in the generation where immortality becomes real
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Fuck Islam tho
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>>93334690
It's a matter of public record that we funded and trained mujahideen fighters during the Cold War, many of which definitely did go on to join Al-Qaeda.

This isn't even information you need to look far for.
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>>93329013
Because they're known for taking a joke?
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>>93330894
isnt this releasing next week?
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>>93330129
They basically believe that Adam, archangel Michael and Jesus are the same person so.....
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>>93330767
>holly ghost is souls
American "Christianity" lady's and gentlemen
>>93335636
Your post is implying that holly trinity is the concept is driven from errors in English translation of the bible when in reality its one of the oldest christian doctrines far older than the English translation of the Bible.
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>>93332829
>Baby killers get killed
and nothing of value was lost.
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>>93327162
It's a lul lets be edgy and show how we hate religion by mocking christians but we're too scared to say anything about muslims episode
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>>93332939
>>93332939
Those poor oppressed civilization ruining atheists.
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>>93336713
>civilizations completely destroyed by atheists: 0
>civilizations completely destroyed by theists: too many to count

Hmmm...
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>>93336893
>Civilizations destroyed by Atheists
look up cultural revolution senpai.
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>>93336893
>civilizations created by atheists: 0
>civilizations created and then completely destroyed by theists: all of them
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>>93336641
Far older than the English language in general in fact.
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>>93336893
>civilizations destroyed by atheists:
The USSR and all it's states, at the very least.
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>>93332829
>Christfags have blown up way more shit than Muslims in the US
"Christian terrorists" are no where near as nor as organized and well founded as their Muslim counterparts to say nothing of the likes of Hamas that literally run entire countries so your "hurr but they are just like Muslims" argument holds no water.
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religion is gay because it makes threads like this
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I believe god is an alien who created life on Earth but not the universe
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>>93337212
I don't even know how is this /co/ related. I'm just here for the butthurt /pol/acks and millenium boys
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>>93337234
a Scientologist, ay.
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>>93337334
Oh, is that what that is?
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>>93337408
technically this is called "panspermia" I was just hoping to start some banter.
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>>93337408
literally their books say

"Aliens came on us, literally. Over dinosaurs, over plants, over humans, everywhere. And we're still getting cum from them"
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>>93336974
Sure.

Secular thinking just improved all the best civilizations. It's kinda obvious that all the most prosperous and happiest nations of the world are also the ones where secularism has pushed religion increasingly far from of politics and law.

>>93337149
A change of government isn't the same as the destruction of a whole civilization, dude. Russia still exists.
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Catholicism isn't true Christianity.
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BEARING HELL! BEARING HELL!
Help me, Murphy
Kitty Mau Mau
Save me from the
Bearings, Murphy
HELP ME MURPH! HELP ME MURPH!
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Oh, I'm sick of the Bearing Hell
It NEVER EVER ENDS!
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I'm
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SICK OF THE HELL
SICK OF THE HELL
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FROM BEARING HELL
FROM BEARING HELL
FROM BEARING HELL
Something something something something
SATURDAY HELL
SATURDAY HELL
SATURDAY HELL
It NE-VER ENDS!
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Oh, I'm sick of the bearings,
THEY NEVER END!
Help me Murphy Cat,
Save me from Hell!
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>>93330352
>It's a guy with no name in the internet desperate to look superior to strangers he will never meet episode
That's like 99% of all discussion on the internet these days, though.
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Save from Hell!
Help me Murphetta the Mau,
Save from Hell!
Help me Murphetta the Mau,
Save from Hell!
Help me Murphetta the Mau,
Save from Hell!
Heeeeeelp
Meeeeee
Help me, Muuuurphy Kitty Mau Mau!
Help me Murphy Cat!
Save me from bearings!
Help me Murphy Cat!
Save me from bearings!
Help me Murphy Cat!
HELP ME MURPHY KITTY SAVE ME FROM THE BEARING HEEEELLLLL
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>>93332280
>Christians oppose vaccinations
No they don't you 'tard. New-Agers do.
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>>93332726
A hell of a lot fewer than than those killed and tortured by atheists in the twentieth century.
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Help me Murphy Kitty, save me from Bearing Hell!
I am sick of bearings, help me Murphy the Mau!
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>>93338015
Oh of course I forgot, it doesn't count that they killed a civilization's worth of people because they left the buildings up. The 80 year failed atheist coup marked by starvation, stagnation, and death was a great!
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>>93329013
Moral Orel isn’t about mocking Christians, it’s about people who happen to be Christian and how people cope with being a bad person in different ways.
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>>93332280
>Christians have way more power and do way more damage here.
With regards to regulations and laws because Christians don't understand the meaning of keeping religion and politics separate? Yes.

Physical-damage wise no, it's often the muzzies bombing people I hate to break it to you. Occasionally we'll get a nutjob who shoots up an abortion clinic but that's about it for Christian violence
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Save me from Bearing Hell!
I am so SICK of the DAMN Bearing Hell!
Help me, Murphy Cat,
Save from the Hell.
HELP ME MURPHETTA MAU,
SAVE ME FORM BEARING HELL!
Help me Murph, help me Murph, help me Murph.
Help me Murph, help me Murph, help me Murph.
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>>93338840
>Physical-damage wise no, it's often the muzzies bombing people I hate to break it to you.
Amerifat Christian bombs are much more powerful and efficient than rigged rice cookers, we simply don't care when an entire village of goat herders is razed to the ground. One guy plowing a truck into a cafe is simply more dramatic, and pictures of the aftermath much more accessible to us so we perceive it as a much bigger deal in comparison.
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I want /hispolx/ to leave.
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>>93333782
They're both pretty minor denominations though. Most Christians, Catholic and Protestant, aren't anti-vaxxers or against modern medical treatment. Only the ones who also wear tinfoil hats.

And frankly I'm not particularly bothered if dumb people decide to throw their lives away because they think medical treatment is satanic or the work of the illuminati.
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>>93336350
Taking a joke and blowing its brains out in the backroom
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>>93333782
8.3 million? That is literally peanuts compared half a billion muslims who think homosexuality is a capital offense
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>>93327162
>this is what christians actually believe
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>>93340055
Everything about fidget spinners is hilarious.
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>>93327162
I don't really care about any religion but I think the mythologies are cool.

To me, religion is essentially like capeshit. Entertaining stories and such.
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>>93340393
WWE has better writing than most religious texts.
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>>93339780
>when some know-nothing anon is incapable of engaging in the conversation but he wants to win so he squats in the middle of the thread and pouts
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>>93340438
Somehow I doubt you've ever read one in good faith
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>>93340438
WWE did Jesus better than the Bible did.
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>>93332244
>>93340055
>doubles for fidget spinner theology
For the people who believe this, that God and Jesus are the same, what the fuck happened to the guy? He really changed from his drowning and nuking and plaguing entire civilisations days.
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>>93340695
He's a bored autistic manchild with mood swings.
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>>93340695
>He really changed from his drowning and nuking and plaguing entire civilisations days.
Who's to say he stopped?
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>>93335636
Fuck you talking about? The Greek term for the Holy Spirit is Pneuma/Pneumatos Hagiou, which literally translates as holy spirit/breath, and the Latin term is Spiritus Sanctus, also translating as holy spirit. This guest/witness thing is complete bullshit.
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>>93340744
Back in the day he owned that shit, he wanted everyone to know it was him doing it. I think if he was still responsible he'd be publicising it better.
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>>93330303
>what is christianity
I swear to god /co/ is specially brimming with retards today
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>>93340821
He's got good PR to keep up his nice guy image but he can toss the blame of whatever he does to some other gods that don't exist.
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>>93340695
The Father still does all those things, The Son is simply an incarnation sympathetic to humans because He lived as one.
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>>93340864
I get the feeling from the Old Testament that the other Gods DO exist though. Otherwise why would YHWH get so jealous? He just wants to monopolise worship for himself, and he can because he's the most powerful and able to fuck everyone up.

Kind of explains America's attraction to Christianity really.
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>>93333563
Fucking /co/

Seriously why do you spend your time talking about cartoons when you don't know basic history?
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>>93327162
Happened here in butt fuck no where Canada. Kid was dying, having a brain aneurysm and the family took him to a church instead of a hospital. I hope those parents get charged for man slaughter.
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>>93340695
Most old testament tales are interpreted as parables, stories intended to teach a message, not a literal documentation of God's rampage across the planet.
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>>93341222
It would be great if we could look at the Bible the way we do say, Greek and Norse myths and legends but the fundies and literalists make that rather difficult.
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>>93336699
QFT and Ebin post number
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>>93333676
I thought almost everyone recognized Orel as good. The coach didn't treat Orel like shit, Putty's daughter,that Broadway dude acknowledged Orel should have been Jesus instead of Judas and he was the play's only saving grace and the entire community was relying on Orel for the pray off.
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>>93339996
What about all the christians that do too?
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>>93330615
I don't know about where you live, but where I'm from, protestants regularly say that.
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>>93329013

>wahhhhhhhh how dare they make fun of christians instead of mudslimes
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>>93340695
A few issues of Lucifer go into detail about this. After the host left the silver city, two demons took it upon themselves to become god, and they went back and forth in time doing all the vengeful old testament shit.
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>>93341222
After Aquinas, the prevailing notion is that the old testament tells literal truths, not parables. In fact, I've only seen bahai texts that interpret those events as metaphoric.
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>>93335526
>Christian liberals
No such thing.
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>>93330303
Man, this is some high quality bait.
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>>93341785
the United Church is very liberal. They participate in gay pride week, and hell, they even rented out the church to our LARP group where we crucified angels....yeah they probably didn't know about that. But they didn't mind the LARP part
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>>93329013
I'm pretty sure that would be declared illegal somehow.
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>>93335636
>more gods then the one we are told to worship

According to the Bible, there's a buttload of gods other than YHWH, such as Baal, or the Egyptian gods, they just suck, and didn't create the universe.
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>>93332761
>Several, they burned several cities, namely Jerusalem.
Which happened centuries ago. Muslims did just as much burning during that time period by the way, if not more considering how much conquest various Muslim empires did.
>They bombes several times in ireland for an example.
The IRA's bombings are politically motivated, not religious. Religious beliefs were a secondary motivation at best.
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>>93340695
He got laid.
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>>93342130

Catholic here, can confirm.

really it's more like "who cares if those other losers exist or not, we've got the prime author of reality, the sole source of goodness and truth, the eternal I AM on our side. Nobody's gonna fuck with us."
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>>93332761

Christians didn't burn down the fucking holiest city in their religion, you idiot. They DID kill a lot of muslims in that city in the process of liberating it.

And we did, uh, accidentally sack Constantinople, which I'm pretty sure the Orthodox church hasn't forgiven us for yet. That wasn't religiously motivated though, you have to remember that the Crusades happened before modern communications or logistics and most individual bands and armies that fought under it operated mostly independently.
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>>93333782
Dont you dare bring facts and reasoning to my /co/
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>Thread about spooks
>no stirnerposting
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>>93344560
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To be honest I support Islam rather than Christianity because my parents are Christians and I hate them.
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>>93344814

Well at least you're honest, Mr. Anonymous poster.
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>>93333782
>major
>one that's a meme and the other that no one has heard of

cool story, mudhammed (piss be upon him)
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>>93334440
>>93334468
Actually, yes you can.

Viruses mutate a lot, especially when given ample area to reproduce in. If an unvaccinated person becomes infected, their body can breed a mutated form of the virus that doesn't look the same to the immune system as the original, and therefore can infect even vaccinated people.

This is why polio and smallpox threats are dangerous even to vaccinated people, and why you have to take a vaccine for a new flu virus every year (because the flu mutates like a fucking monster; there are more strains of the flu than there are insects on Earth, and fighting the most prevalent one this year with a new vaccine per year is all we can hope to do).
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>>93343460
It was less an accident and more that most crusaders had never really heard of the place but were interested in free loot.

Also, to be fair, the Crusades killed a lot of local Christians on their way through Jerusalem. There weren't that many to *be* killed, but there were a decent number.
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>>93332295
The entire point of 4chan is being a contrarian now. It's becoming more popular to be spiritual, agnostic or atheistic rather than religious, so the contrarian thing to do is back christians
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>>93327162
My city literally had a fucking measles outbreak because of Somalian immigrants. Fucking anti-vaxxers, they deserve to be mocked.
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>>93347262
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>>93341785
Where are you from? Catholics and Protestants are highly liberal in America. You've got your signals mixed if you can't differentiate between Christianity and conservativism.
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>>93340055
>it's fucking real
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>>93332653
If everything is God, nothing is.
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>It's a Catholics and Evangelicals all believe the same shit episode.
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>>93347681
>Catholics and Protestants are highly liberal in America.

What the fuck am I reading? /co/ is so fucking dumb. Mods need to start banning christfags on sight.
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>>93332201
>Is it really that strange that western writers who probably grew up experiencing the less appealing parts of Christianity first hand, tend focus on it?
It's not, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get grating.
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>>93340695
Some say God was replaced somewhere between the Old and the New Testament. Sounds pretty interesting to me.
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>>93348744
Nah, it's all still God.
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>>93349081
It's another Catholics and Evangelicals all believe the same shit episode.
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>>93332244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw
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>>93338277
Then what's true Christianity, those snake-handling, rapture-waiting cults or something?
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>>93340695
The "Bible" is an amalgamation of multiple interpretations, translations, canonizing and non-canonizings. The original god from Genesis and the early shit was from a very different time/place than the later form of god.
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>>93340055
Those crazy Christians. Always trying to make money off of popular shit, no matter how fucking stupid it is.
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>disbelieves in god and religion
>Is gullible towards other artificial concepts such as law, rights, morals, property etc.

How spooky
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>>93329013
You can't make a comfy show about muslims, they're no chill.
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>>93341222
>not a literal documentation of God's rampage across the planet.
Damn I need to read the bible again, that sounds like the dopest fucking religion ever.
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>>93333064
>>93333078
That was a very emotional moment for me, I was 15 when I saw that episode.
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>>93354184
Well, you know about Job, right? He's got a good story.
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>>93354442
>Job
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>Expecting /co/ to understand anything about religion that isn't from a comic book or cartoon

They also believe that homos is not mentally ill and mustard gas is a condiment
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>>93336956
Don't go using facts, You'll crush the understanding of the poor atheists who think their beliefs are always right. You know just like a religion.
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>>93338501
Funny thing the anti-vaxx people tend to come from higher education backgrounds.
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>>93332821
Alone had to be one of the scariest things I have seen on TV.
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>>93354184
Noah's Ark, Abraham, David and Goliath, David and Solomon, Jonah, Job, Cain and Abel, Moses, Jericho, most Old Testament stories can be broken down like this:

1). God gets pissed at X
2). God breaks the shit out of X
3). The people worship God
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>>93336332
Different groups Anon.
>American funded local mujahadeen > Northern Alliance > Afghan government
>Saudi funded foreign mujahadeen > Al Qaeda
To argue that they're the same when AQ literally murdered Ahmed Shah Massoud is such a gross oversimplification that it's ridiculous. You might as well argue that the Allies put Petain in power because he was a Frenchman who fought alongside them against Hitler.
But you just want your "lol Americans are so stupid they don't know they made Al Qaeda" meme, so carry on.
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>>93349105
Yeah you've got the world way too black and white my friend.
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>>93348744
No, if everything is God, then nothing isn't God. Quit getting your theology from Dreamworks villains.
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