So the Premiere was today did anybody watch it?

>>93279058
>wow this looks coo...
>Captain Marvel
>Kamala
>ughhhhh....

The first episode is awesome

Black Panther is really based in this

>mohawk Carol

I didn't knew she could have a worse haircuit than that dyke hair. At least they didn't put Whor in this

>>93279276
>At least they didn't put Whor in this
She is...

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Carol is best girl.

>Doing the BP & Hawkeye EMH dynamic
They got me

Now checking episode 2

I just watched it.
>>Wasp: We're not the regular Avengers. We're like All New, All Different

It's pretty dull and drawn out. Though Josh Keaton as Ant-Man is welcomed. Oh, Jane Foster is a scientist now who works for Stark. WHY NOT?

>>93279320
Shame she can't have good hair anymore. This is an improvement over the comic look though.

Anybody else notice the distinct lack of shading in the first episode?

Also, I swear I though they got Eric Loomis back to voice Iron Man until I looked it up and found out it was the guy who voiced Po in the Kung Fu Panda series.

>>93279451
I actually yelled at the screen at that part. That, and the stinger. I know, it was a forgone conclusion the minute Jane showed up, but it was still annoying.

This is the most soulless cartoon I've seen.

>>93280161
>I actually yelled at the screen at that part.
I mean, why not the New Avengers? Why jump directly to ANAD? That's like going from Raiders of the Lost Arc to Crystal Skull.

>>93279320
The shield actually looks good on her.

>>93279274
When is Black Panther not based?

>>93280566
When he married Storm.

>>93280566
In emh when he was a boring mary sue

>>93279451
So is Grant George no longer Ant Man? Shame I think he's perfect for Scott.

>>93280161
Mick and Eric have both voiced Po.

>>93281000
Ha, this.
>>93281135
Black Panther is Black Batman.

>>93281135
>mary sue
Aka I don't like a character

Isn't this show ending to make way for a new animated universe?

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>>93280419
She makes anything look good.

>>93281443
The new show just started. You're thinking of Ultimate Spider-Man.

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>>93279376

It's been four years. Why does it still sting?

>>93281471
Except her "Carl Danvers" look she has nowadays. The suit's fine though
>>93281483
I didn't mean a new show. I thought the others in these batch of shows will end so they aren't continuing the old animated universe alongside the new one in the new Spider-Man show.

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>>93281135
Funny guy, you...

>>93280387

I really miss Yost

>>93281184

I love Josh but it feels like they switched Grant out just to MCU goof the guy up.


He should be the veteran Avenger here but everybody is treating him like an unwanted hanger-on and I don't really know why.

>>93281689
I really wonder what would have happened if this show continued and effect it would have on comic Carol.

>>93279058
So what's the best Avengers cartoon?

>>93282377
The ANAD comic was already hugely influenced by EMH Carol. That was years after it was done.

>>93282391

This is not even a contest, it's EMH hands down.
L

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>>93282377

Hopefully writers would know they can make her badass without being a raging bitch

>>93281535
>I didn't mean a new show. I thought the others in these batch of shows will end so they aren't continuing the old animated universe alongside the new one in the new Spider-Man show.
Why? It's just Spider-Man rebooting.

>>93282831
They cancelled EMH for Avengers Assemble.

I've watched a bit of it. The animation, the style, and the dialogue's all so wooden.

But my favorite part is when Kamala says "Woo-hoo!" in the middle of her school hallway. People look at her, and she just leaves.

>>93282938
No, Ultimate Spider-Man is starting over as the Spider-Man.

>>93281443
After seeing how it worked out last time when they cancelled shows to make new ones in a universe formed around Ultimate Spider-Man, I think they really need to worry about getting the new Spider-Man right before they think about building around.

If they want to emulate the MCU so much, copy the formula and get the one character right before you make them the center of the universe.

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>>93282945
>Kamala

Watching the last arc of the previous season just to see what this would be like, this moment creeped me the fuck out.

>>93279249
This and then some

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>>93283454

>>93283773
Terrifying

>>93283773
Do you have a gif of Kamala doing that weird arm thing when she celebrates? It's like the moment right before that scene.

>>93284035
That's what you get when your power is shapeshifting

>>93284120
I'm more annoyed that Kamala doesn't shapeshift to more wild stuff. It's usually bigger hands, long legs, stretchy neck and growing/shrinking. I want her to go nuts with her power.

>>93284160
Read her latest issue

>>93284160
I remember her creator saying something about not wanting the character to be too overpowered which is why she mostly uses it for stretching. I think that's not a problem and balanced by her healing factor not working as well if she strays too far from her base. So her turning giant or changing into someone else isn't that OP.
>>93284205
What happened?

>>93283773
This looks like if someone tried to make a cartoon in the style of GIRLS

>>93284309
I just want her to inflate herself, just like a balloon.

>>93279058
I just finished watching it and honestly I got pretty bored at some parts.

I guess at least it's not shit tier levels of awful like the first season or like the GotG cartoon but the best this cartoon manages to do is mediocre.

>>93281471
>Carol picking up Mjolnir
Lol no.

>>93281518
Because it was actually good.

>>93284414
You give yourself away so easy s/d

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>>93284889
It's Thorr's Mjolnir, obviously.

>>93279058
I am enjoying the fact that they are making Carol act like an obnoxious jerk and I can't tell if it's on purpose or on accident.

Like in her short she bullies the bad guys and even the person she was suppose to save to do her bidding.

And in the second episode of this season she lets her trash drift into space.

I also just realized that with Jane foster there and Mjolnir without Thor that we might see Whor.

>>93280161
Loomis is back for MvC:I, at least.

>>93285356
In last season's Civil War arc, she's a super unapologetic dickbag. They must think it's endearing.

>>93285373
It would be nice to hear Marc Worden's smooth and silky tones as Iron Man again someday.

>BP beats Kang and Skurge
Nooooo Skurge is always jobbing

>>93279320
I like Carol and Steve's dynamic in this.
I hope they fuck.

>>93281518
Because you're autistic

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>>93286031
Heroes are mostly asexual in these current Marvel cartoons. The most action anybody's gotten was that gross A-Bomb/Crystal shit.

>>93286276
You're probably right.

>>93286305
Why the hell are Rick Jones and Crystal making out? That pairing makes no sense

>>93286412
I still don't know how that happened

>>93286412
I guess because Jones was the Human Torch of the group.

I want to call it F4 snubbing, but they actually showed up in that series.

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man has the artstyle been this bad since the show started?

also i like this wasp costume. RimmyTimm Colors

>>93286802
Did Hank and Jan ever show up in this? I know of that early comic tie-ins where they had a cameo as they were seen in EMH.

>>93279058
Kamala in a children's cartoon.
And there are still people who deny that Marvel is using this character to try to normalize Islam to western children.

>>93288576
Kamala's "Muslim" in the way most western "Christians" are Christians. She was born into that background but doesn't really practice it much.

>>93284309
She demonstrated the capacity for plasticity. As in she gave up control for speed and started rubber-dodging like a mofo against a new henchman called Discord who wields sonic emitters. And electroshockers, as she had to find out the hard way.
Seems she trained some off-screen while we followed Bruno's Wakandan misadventure.

>>93284889
>Lol no.
That isn't even a problem, her being a soulless tool and all.

>>93288753
why
are you
taking
the bait

This is still MCU trash cartoon with no F4 and Mutants right?

>>93289419
Yeah it is so shitty

>>93290224
Then I don't need to watch it.
Thanks anon!

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>>93290826
Why is this allowed?

>>93290969
Would you prefer her turning into a fidget spinner?

>>93290981
... yes?

God, no matter how many times i see bits and pieces of this show, the visuals are so fucking grating

The rest of the crowd look like Street Fighter background characters with all that slack jawed fist pumping

>>93286977
Hank did as Ant-Man in that episode were Falcon's mom comes to visit.

It was a really bad episode

>http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-avengers-assemble-episode-was-a-crime-against-all-1563425417

But yeah the Ant-Man movie came out and synergy dictated that Ant-Man had to be Scott and seeing how shitty the continuity in this cartoon is (Hope is here after all) I can see Hank coming back and being old because of the movie

>>93279058
link?

>>93291098
Did they ever use his name? I know they love to play it safe until they have to.

>>93291098
Continuity for this series was pretty fucked from the beginning. The events before the show are basically Phase 1 MCU with EMH Hank, Jan, and Vision being around at some point. Never seriously watched this show though.

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>>93281518
tick tick boom
because you know they'll never be a show like that in your lifetime.

>>93291181
There was a part where they used a clip from emh as a flashback.

>>93291202
It wasn't a real clip from EMH. It was a black and white flashback sequence that used the EMH designs, probably just to throw EMH fans off.

>>93291151
Yeah I think Tony calls him Hank at one point.

The continuity in this show is just bad, just look at the Guardians when they guest starred both pre and post GotG movie they are all completely different in voice, look and personality, especially Peter.

Also USM was canon to this cartoon and so is the GotG cartoon (at least that's what Wacker said in his tumblr IIRC), yet in the GotG cartoon the MCU Novas exist and they just introduced a Supernova black helmet that will make its way to Sam on earth and make him Nova for the first time.

>>93291202
Does that mean this is like Spider-Man Unlimited taking place in a slightly different universe than the 90s show or something like I described?
>>93291216
I guess that settles it

>>93291219
Prequel maybe?

the writing seemed especially bad.
>the new cabal was nothing but puns.
>heroes saying shit the audience already knows.
>i'm hulk. i used to be a loner, but now i know that teamwork is the best.
>i'm thor. i'm impatient.
>bp having to escape to contact reinforcements. >vision's voice actor seemed inconsistent.

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>>93291246
Not really especially since Sam did not start as a Black Nova in the USM cartoon

>>93291264
Good puns or badly used puns?

>>93291219
They say a show like EMH was too continuity heavy for kids to process then proceed to create the most convoluted jumble ever. I love it

If serialized comics, that had more complex language than typical Saturday morning cartoons, weren't too complicated for them as kids why would careful written cartoons make children's brains hurt? Just tell the best stories you can with the best visuals you can muster and stop being pandering and cheap.

>>93291299
Can't say your continuity's fucked if you have none.

>>93291216
It was originally supposed to be a sequel

>>93291269
Yeah Wacker doesn't give a fuck about continuity.

But what gets me is that he wants to adapt Annihilation and has mentioned several times he doesn't have plans for Rich to be in the cartoon.

It's already going to be shit

>>93291327
An Annihilation adaptation? In a show that looks and sounds like it's for a 5 year old audience? I don't even know who the audience is for that.

>>93280161
Did they give a reason for kicking out Adrian?

>>93291327
So it would be annihilation without Rich, Silver Surfer and Super Skrull ?

>>93291291
badly used puns. just made the characters not seem interesting.

>>93291380
Damn it's hard to fuck up villains making puns but I guess this cartoon aims to go low.

>>93291226
Probably

When Hawkeye had a flashback, everything looked like EMH and when Spider-Man had one , everything looked like 60s Spider-Man, so maybe the past always turns out like a old Marvel cartoon.

>>93279058
Why would I watch pure trash? This is the worst avengers cartoon ever made, and that's saying something cause there have been some really bad stuff.

>Terrible animation
>worse voice acting
>no logic
No, seriously, a laser is hitting the ground from space and Hulk pushes it to the side. What is that?!?!?!?!?!

>>93291908
Worse than the 1960s Avengers cartoons?

>>93281689
You know those toy commercials where they show the action figures talking shit to each other and then switch to the kids playing with them? That's how this cartoon feels like, except it's 20 minutes long and it never switches to the kids pov.

>That time Ultron showed up out of nowhere with no build-up just because AoU was out.

>>93292437
Wait if it's one of Kamala's fanfics?

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>>93291928

>>93291353

I assume availability or Mick Wingert is cheaper & sounds more like RDJ.

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>>93291327
And Mar-vell.

>>93292813
There's no reason for Mar-Vell to be there

Just watched it not as bad as I thought it would be.

>>93279249
>this looks cool
NOTHING in that image looks cool. If anything, Yaas Queen and Kamala are the only remotely interesting things.

>>93291375
Annihilus is part of the FF rights, so probably no Annihilus, Negative Zone, or Annihilation Wave either.

>>93292498
Then she's a terrible fanfic writer.

mega?

>>93294205
>NOTHING in that image looks cool.
>If anything, Yaas Queen and Kamala are the only remotely interesting things.
You had me and then you lost me.

>>93283773
the animation and the art style of this show looks terrible

>>93279320
>>93280419
>>93281471
I fucking hate Carol fag.

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>>93292813

>>93294475
They have used characters that are part of the FF rights like Kang the Conqueror.

>>93295568
Does Carol really have villains? You have Mystique, Yon-Rogg, and uh...

>>93295641
The Brood is her biggest villain.

>>93295568
Someone kill this fucking guy

>>93295568
wow dickhead

>>93295568
This movie needs to come out already so this shit can end.

>>93281135
>In emh when he was a boring mary sue
So like he is now?
And Black Widow?

>>93296160
How's the movie going to help that?

>>93296262
It'll underperform and Marvel can stop pretending like anyone gives a shit about Carol.

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>>93296353
>Marvel Studios
>underperforming

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>>93282753
Whoa, there are HD rips of EMH?

>>93279058
wow this is boring as fuck

How is Kamala Khan in the show ? She is good ? Does the show do her justice ?

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>the absolut state of Marvel
DC won

>>93291219
I thought GotG was its own thing.

>>93296774
Nope, USM, Avengers Assemble, Agents of Smash, and GotG all in one universe,

>>93296712
annoyingly peppy. i'd say no.

>>93296353
It might underperform with Marvel's expectations (especially since Wonder Woman did good and that is probably making them more confident about Carol)but it will do good financially.

Worst case scenario it makes Ant-Man money or a bit less and the story is shit and she doesn't get a sequel, her merch is hard to sell to the general public, and she is relegated to Avengers only movies.

>>93296688
This made me realize even more how boring the fights are in Avenger Assemble

>>93286802
THICC

>>93296712
As much as anyone else.
That is to say not at all.
The writing is kindergarten levels of stating the obvious at all times and everyone talks like an idiot.
They don't use her powers creatively, not even shrinking or growing.
And they don't hit her tone because she's street as fuck and needs the interactions of street heroing to be the aspiring do-gooder. Which is impossible since it's all Avengers shit, it's all high-bullshit save the world, it's all black and white and everyone talks like a moron and is far too nice. This simply does not allow her to be an idealist or a kid, since she does not look more immature than the rest, or more fired up for justice.
It's all boring and flat in the end.

>>93297391
That still sounds better than how she becomes "bitchy brown girl" in team books.

>>93297481
That's why you take her away from foolish old men.
She's actually cool in Secret Warriors so far. Mostly because she actually contrasts with Daisy and Karnak's morality. She is allowed to be truly the idealist who stands on a principled position there. When she isn't otherwise being a 16yo. Her sleeping in the car was cute as fuck. Also her actions during Secret Empire in that book draw her correctly as conflicted and circumspect about meting out heroism in grey areas.
Although the book is a pretty balling road trip, I have to say. Can't take it too seriously or you ruin your fun. The animosity between Inhumans and Mutants is pretty off the charts, for example and even Lunella injures and/or kills people with little concern, it seems.
But that is all very stridently presented and if you do not take the violence more seriously than the writer then you have a good time.

>>93291299

AKA
>This show doesn't fit the criteria WE want so we're gonna replace it. So anyone who liked EMH, well, to damn bad.

>>93295657
More like Carol is the Brood's biggest villain.

>>93279058
the show was actually pretty good

>>93283773
>that fucking flying
Jesus Christ

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The Guardians comic does better then the tv show.