New Legacy details

>Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe

This somehow became even worse.

>>93251307
neat-
>Jason Aaron
damn

>>93251307
>Jason Aaron
>Esad Ribic
This is going to be godawful, but it's going to have amazing art.

>“MARVEL LEGACY #1 isn’t simply a history lesson,” says SVP and Executive Editor Tom Brevoort. “Rather, it’s the starting gun to a bevy of mysteries and secrets and revelations that will reverberate across the Marvel Universe in the weeks and months to come! No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages. Jason and Esad pulled out all the stops to fat-pack this colossal issue with as much intrigue, action, surprise, mystery, shock and adventure as possible!”

>“MARVEL LEGACY #1 will present all fans – new readers and current readers – the very best jumping on point in the history of comics,” says Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso. “What Jason and Esad have crafted is more grand and more gargantuan than anything we have ever seen before and introduces concepts and characters the Marvel Universe has never encountered. Fans are going to witness an all-new look at the Marvel Universe starting at one of the earliest moments in time carried all the way into present day. Not only will this be the catalyst for Marvel evolving and moving forward, but expect it to be the spark that will ignite the industry as a whole.”

>This September, prepare to MAKE MINE MARVEL with the most surprising, suspenseful, mysterious, astonishing tale ever told, featuring appearances from almost every beloved Marvel hero! It all leads to the return of a major Marvel icon in a shocking reveal that will leave fans speechless!

>True believers: this book has it all! Dive into all the excitement when MARVEL LEGACY #1 comes to comic shops everywhere this September!

MARVEL LEGACY #1
Written by JASON AARON
Art by ESAD RIBIC
Double Gatefold Cover by JOE QUESADA

When will Marvel stop being so stupid?
I don't think they realize just how low of a bar people have for them right now.

>>93251307
Will this cement Alonso's title as the worst marvel eic?

>>93251469
They need to completely clean house, get rid of everyone in charge and bring in qualified people who will actually do their fucking jobs.

>>93251307
I liked Aaron's Ghost Rider, maybe because there's an early rider here we'll get some Zadkiel shenanigans?

>>93251307
In related news, the "Vanishing Point" hinted at on the Secret Empire variant covers does indeed tie into Generations.
https://www.newsarama.com/34946-how-secret-empire-s-vanishing-point-ties-into-generations.html

>In a flash, the Marvel heroes are offered a gift: to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with those who came before them, free from the burdens of past, present, and future – where time has no meaning. Within the Vanishing Point, through the course of these action-packed adventures, our heroes will discover what is needed to usher in the future of the Marvel Universe. This August, prepare for Marvel’s GENERATIONS!

>This epic 10-issue series brings together iconic and present day heroes such as Miles Morales and Peter Parker, Amadeus Cho and Bruce Banner, Iron Man and Ironheart, Laura Kinney and Logan, and many more of your favorite characters. “GENERATIONS unites the present day heroes of the Marvel Universe with their forbearers from the past in order to chart the course of the future!” says SVP and Executive Editor Tom Brevoort. “These ten adventures are the stepping stones to everything that is to come for all of these characters!”

>The stories of GENERATIONS begin at the Vanishing Point, and these epic tales offer fans a direct bridge and prelude into the sense-shattering Marvel Legacy, as the challenges and revelations of GENERATIONS will alter the destinies of our heroes moving forward in a dramatic fashion!

>These heroic journeys all launch from the same point: the Vanishing Point! Coming to comic shops this August!

>>93251342
Yes it gives them a real excuse for race/genderswapping white male characters.

The ORIGINAL versions from 1,000,000 BC will all be POC, so the white males of today really arent important at all, and can and will be replaced.

WE WUZ RETCON!

>>93251515
Perlmutter needs to be the first on the chopping block. The shit runs downhill at Marvel, and he's at the very top of it.

>>93251307
They're going to make the neo-legacy characters super diverse to claim "No no, the white guy was the unusual one! Really this is a return to the TRUE tradition" aren't they?

>>93251307
>Phoenix
Another secret host of the Phoenix Force from Earth

Did these idiots learn nothing from Fong-ji?

>>93251600
my thoughts exactly
>>93251573

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>>93251307
>>Since its inception, Marvel has been delivering groundbreaking heroes and explosive stories. Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe, in MARVEL LEGACY #1!

I feel like some major names have been omitted.

>>93251307
>Star Brand
Well... that's a surprise.

>>93251422
>featuring appearances from almost every beloved Marvel hero!

I very much doubt that's going to happen. It'll probably be the same lineup currently in comics.

>Well, my protege, I was a pretty good Thor/Cap/Iron Man/etc, but now I can truly see you're even better: The Series

>>93251307
>Wakanda is 800,000 years older than Homo sapiens.

Fuck this Mary Suetopia shit.

>>93251307
Why does Quesada make all the women beautiful but all the men old and wrinkled? Is this his fantasy of a world where he's the most attractive man?

>>93251704
Kirby was like that too

>>93251307
>>93251422
Wow, talk about anti-hype.

>>Jason Aaron
>>The Phoenix

Prepare for more Quentin Quire wanking.

Also, $20 says they forget to show Apocalypse in Ancient Egypt.

>We uh, don't have any PoC on the cover, you guys realize that?
>Yeah, uh. Throw in a Storm?
>But she's X-Men, and we're not-
>The fuck else are we gonna put in then?
>Ok, Storm.

>>93251307
> Storm is the token X-Men character segregated off to the side

>>93251722
>1,000,000 BC
>Ancient Egypt

>>93251736
Black Panther

>>93251307
But Danny met the first Iron Fist in Immortal Iron Fist, and he certainly wasnt 1,000,000+ years old.

>>93251765
I thought they were moving through time to the present

>>93251307
>"The first people to be called Superheroes are 1,000,000 years old"
>"Fantastic Four? Who are they?'

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>>93251307
ntroduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe, in MARVEL LEGACY #1!

....
WHAT

>>93251307
>the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together

Fuck, I actually like this idea.

I'm actually surprised that nobody at Marvel has tried to say how this is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than DC Rebirth yet.

Perlmutter's antics will soon get Marvel closed up, and he's got nothing to blame but himself. Who wants some more Gwenpool?

>>93251422
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages.
This is exactly the opposite of what people want.

Homo erectus Avengers!

>>93251736
Wanda is Romani

Shouldn't Galactus have been there?

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>>93251307
>Generations is about the legacy characters
>Legacy is about several generations of the same title
HOUSE OF IDEAS

>>93251893
>Who wants some more Inhumans?

Fixed

>>93251307
>when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin
Is this implying that Odin was originally going around as Thor/with Thor's hammer?

>>93251307
Wasn't the expanded Conan Universe the ancient history of Marvel 616? Or has that been retconned away now that they don't publish Conan anymore?

>>93251631
Yeah. I wanted captain pangea

>>93252004
Probably retconned away.

>>93251307
Marvel should just launch a new Ultimate line, with either proven talent from outside or a completely new creators.

It doesn't seem possible to dislodge the current bullpen from 616 and quality is really suffering because of that.

For those wondering, Secret Wars was the perfect excuse for this reintroduction of characters.
So it's not so much a retcon but a reboot for Iron Fist, Black Panther and the rest.

And we finally get to see Agammotto do something, but expect quips on him and Oding losing their eyes.

>>93251927
In some versions. Depending on who her parents are at any given point.

She and Pietro have been basically generic white Europeans for most of their history, which doesn't mean people don't adopt them as representation, just that Marvel doesn't get any representation points for using them.

>no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages

isn't secret empire supposed to be the last event?

>>93251307
>Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC

Because why not. And I thought the Fifties Avengers smacked of desperation.
This is literally 20,000 times more pathetic.

>>93252019
This assumes they can get creators. Bleeding Cool claimed they were trying to round up some bigger names for 2018, and maybe they still are, but their thin talent pool suggests that big names no longer want to write for them.

>>93251515
You mean 'people who cater to your likes and wants'.
Trust me, a billion dollar company doesn't care about the opinion of butthurt /co/mmies who steal most of the shit they read.

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>>93251307
Hol up

does this mean we're gonna get some Anansi?

>>93252062
I bet we won't even get a cover spoof of the One Million Years B.C. poster.

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>>93252032
It's not an event if its a one shot and has no tie ins.

But really seems like they are moving the goal post

>>93252032
This is ripping off Legacy, so it's a one-shot that probably sets up a new status quo that will play out through the ongoings. Then they'll go back to having events.

>>93251307
Is scott snyder secretly ghost writing for aaron?

>>93251573
>The ORIGINAL versions from 1,000,000 BC will all be POC

The original versions, the humans ones that is, won't be Homo Sapiens. I kind of thought everybody knew that, but comic book writers keep surprising me with that seemingly infinite capacity of stupidity and utter lack of any knowledge base whatsoever.

>>93252080
Spider god?

>>93251307
>>93251422
Sounds boring to be honest.

>>93252101
>>93252102

fuck i got triggered when the solicit said event in that sentence

>>93251702
Was there ever an origin of Bast? I don't think there was but my fantastic 4 is lacking

>>93252111
This is triggering me, too.

Wakanda is WAAAAAAAY older than Homo sapiens, really?

>>93251702

More like 650,000 with the most recent findings, but yeah.

>>93251876

Odin, according to Marvel history, did not come into existence until humans first conceived of gods. Only then did he, and all other gods, 'crystallize' out of the divine life force nascent to Earth.
The wheel was not invented until about 4000 years ago and horses were not domesticated until about 7000 years ago, so that Ghost Rider thing is by definition crap.
And the Black Panther... that should be fun, a Homo Ergaster shaman channeling a black leopard spirit.

>>93251931

Maybe he's the 'big threat' so they can fuck the Fantastic Four out of that premiere as well.

>>93251307
>A true homage to Marvel’s groundbreaking stories, MARVEL LEGACY brings your favorite characters together for exciting and epic new stories that will culminate in returning to original series numbering for long-running titles.

>>93251307
>“MARVEL LEGACY #1 will present all fans – new readers and current readers – the very best jumping on point in the history of comics,” says Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso

I feel like they are learning the wrong lessons from DC Rebirth again

>>93252109
If it's good he is.
Bemad.jpg

I doubt panthers existed in 1 million bc but what the fuck do I know

>>93251422
If they want people to care, make it a dollar.

>>93252262
>yfw Wakanda reached the industrial revolution before modern humans even existed

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>>93252004

Yes, but that was about 10,000 years ago. 1,000,000 years is before even the Celestials modified the ancestors of humanity.

>>93252015

Pangaea hasn't been a thing for 170 million years, son.

>>93252262

Perhaps Black Panther =/= Wakanda.

>>93252199

If she's a god, she's no older than the human capacity to imagine gods.

>>93252265
>It is not just a possibility, but outright expected the FF will not appear in Kirby's centenary month

why such a retarded time in the past?

>>93251573
only fucking thing that was around back than was Homo erectus.


odin can still be odin, Agamotto is fucking ancient so there's no problem there and phoenix and starbrand can be aliens i guess. gr and bp are homo erectus that stumbled into what makes their characters them.

>>93252277
Whatever turns a buck, Alonso and Brevoort don't give a shit about well written stories.

>Marvel made caveposting canon.

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>>93251307
My OCD is getting triggered

>>93252308

Not enough: One million years ago, panthers existed.

>>93251307
>they will be speaking in english

>>93252345
Nope, Wakanda existed and already had the social structure of a kingdom. See:

> A Wakandan warrior bred to be a king.

So it's DC 1,000,000

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>>93251307
>>93251342
>the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC

It's a "the main characters go back in time and see themselves as cavemen" episode.

>Marble Comics
Meme magic strikes again.

>>93252382
>why such a retarded time in the past?

I dunno, a million is a nice round number. And DC already used 'one million months'.

>>93252415

The mask can move slightly, anon. The metal is composed of grain-of-sand-sized tesselated units which hold together with tremendous force, giving the impression of an uninterrupted surface.

>>93252452

Crap.

>>93252535
how would his face move and not his jaw though?

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>iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther

>>93251307
>1,000,000 bc
>humans
>wakanda

>>93251307
>>93251422
>Legacy is just Caveman Avengers
>>>93251536
>Generations is just the minority/legacy heroes being zapped to the past to meet their original heroes (even though some of them already teamed up before)
>it will probably have the heroes push/shill the new heroes as the best

I didn't ask for any of this, Marvel.

How long until the wakandans are older than the Eternals?

>>93252694
>We wuz primordial forces

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>>93251307

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>>93252113
yup

Legacy could be cool. The idea of "Caveman" avengers could be fun... Of course this is modern marvel we are talking about. Ghost rider could ride a horse? camel?...Chariot? who knows?

Generations is gonna be the dumbest fucking thing they've done This month.

>>93251307
>Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe, in MARVEL LEGACY #1!
Who gives a fucking shit about the Dino Avengers? Is this really the best they could come up with? Or was this already planned and they decided to stick Legacy on it and hype it up?
Seriously though, why should I give a flying shit about Prehistoric Avengers? Marvel hyped this up as being bigger than anything they've done. And it's this? This?

>>93251422
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages
Stop that

Marvel fans getting a second hand Rebirth but with the same shitty creative teams, I'm sorry guys. Dark Nights Metal coming soon

>>93252908
Dinovengers sounds like a far more interesting concept.

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>yfw "WE WUZ KANGZ while whitebois were in caves" is being made canon

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MARLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL

>6 out of the 7 people mentioned are white
>Anons are mad about the only black person
Y'all really act like losers sometimes

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After the whole First Firmament in Ultimates 2. i already thought something like this would happen with generations/legacy. they are changing their whole mythos in this new 616 universe.
expect more retarded shit.
Ultimates 2 is still good tho

>>93251307
>1,000,000 BC
>iron fist
>black panther
Were humans even a thing at this point?
>>93251573
>odin

>>93252994
we're all descended from Man-Thing via time travel anyway. its just an oroboros of moss, nothing for anyone to be proud of

>>93253040
did any of ewing's comics come out this week? I didn't see anything getting storytimed

>>93253023
>comic readers
it's almost as though /co/ is full of losers

>>93253023
You mean that reeeeeing one or two guys rather than "y'all"

>>93251307
>Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC
Isn't it kind of late to be ripping off Morrison's 90s JLA run?

>>Odin
If it's so long ago, shouldn't it be Bor?

>>93251809
Maybe he'll meet Shou-lao when it was a baby dragon, or something? Idk. Continuity means nothing anymore.

>>93251411
Yup. And like his Thor run, it'd be worth it for the art alone.

>>93252560

...He's making faces?

>>93252694

If this goes through they already are.

>>93252859
>Ghost rider could ride a horse? camel?...Chariot? who knows?

A million years ago? No.

>>93252908
>the Dino Avengers?

That is even more anachronistic.

>>93251536
Is there precedent for Vanishing Point being a place unaffected by time? DC has one.

>>93253023
>Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther

Anon... white people have only existed since about the end of the last ice age, say 11000 years ago. That's when white skin evolved. Before that time, there literally were no white people on the planet.

Of course, a million years ago there weren't any Homo sapiens' at all.

>>93253040
>they are changing their whole mythos

The Ultimates 2 stuff is only adding to it.

>>93253044

Humans - yes. Homo sapiens, no.

>>93251307
>Prehistoric Caveman Avengers
My god.
*pulls off glasses*
This is literally the most Kino idea ever born (but what else you expect from the Shakespeares of comix).
I mean, it's the Avengers but in the past! The prehistoric past!!! Meaning more stones!!!!

We may as well start burning all comics now. Nothing will ever be as Kino as this. Let's start with shitty non-caveman books like Saga and Walking Dead.

>>93253134

If it's so long ago, it shouldn't be any god at all.

>>93251704
Strange doesn't look so bad.

>>93253023

>6 out of the 7 people mentioned are white

where's your evidence for this? knowing marvel from the past 3 years. they will be poc with the exception of odin, possibly.

>>93251307
>Esad Ribic
Oh boy, I can't wait for the book to be delayed!

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>>93253093
I only follow Ultimates 2. USA Avengers might have got a release because of secrety empire. but ultimates is on hold because of event
>>93253265
adding is still changing

>>93252079
I mean people who make sure that there are multiple spelling and grammar mistakes in the same issue, people who will make sure that an artist will keep things consistent on the same fucking page, you know editors.

>>93251704
he drew captain america perfectly for someone who's had enough of this shit

>>93252487
In reverse though, instead of super future you get stone age.

>>93251307
>
REST IN PEACE.
MARVEL

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>>93251307
>Rest of the synopsis
Cool
>Jason Aaron
Pic related

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>>93251307
>Marvel hyped up Legacy
>What could it be?
>OMD is overturned and Peter and MJ are getting back together?
>The Fantastic Four are coming back?
>A Star Wars/Marvel crossover?
>Nope, Cavepeople Avengers
Thank, Marvel. Thank you for getting my hopes up and dashing them.

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So, /co/. Who will be the female? Rider? Panther? Iron Fist? Somebody has to.

>>93253506
100% sure phoenix, others are a tossup

>>93253493
>>93253506
Iron Fist will be Asian. Same as Agamotto. Black Panther will be black and like, already have mth and a functioning wheel. The female will be the Phoenix.

Hey, don't ask me how's that gonna work in 10^6 BC but, uh, Make Mine Marlel!

Avengers 1.000.000 BC? stupid idea! stop with the Avengers, this will fail like Avengers 1969 lol

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>>93253533
>>93253548

Alright, alright.

But who will be the homosexual?

>>93253587
also pheonix

>>93251307
>>93251342

No link, no care

>>93252908
Maybe they wanted some of that Flintstones money and no one told them

>>93251307
I'm confused. If Legacy is actually about the Original Original Avengers, then why do all the promo images showing the legacy heroes and their predecessors?

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>Wakanda predates Atlantis, Attilan, and Olympia

>>93253619
That's Generations.

>>93253627
Black Panther established wakand at the end of SW

>>93253627
wakanda arrived fully-formed on that vibranium meteorite

>>93252829
Oh shit, I love Anansi. What's this from? The only time I've ever seen him portrayed in a comic was during Spiderverse.

>>93252079
they obviously don't care about the people who were buying their comics either since sales have been in freefall

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>>93253694
Spider-Man: Fairy Tales #2
he also shows up during the JMS run of Amazing Spider-Man

>>93252111
>humans ones that is, won't be Homo Sapiens
Don't you have to be homo sapien (or homo superior I guess) to be considered human?

>>93253506
None of them will be human (well, Agamotto or Odin might look humanoid). None of these beings or powers have to be welded by humans. There already was a T-Rex Ghost Rider before, they will do something like that. The Star Brand will be attached to a turtle, the Phoenix will be in a sabretooth tiger, the Black Panther will be the literal old-ass Panther God, etc.

>>93251718
Nah, he knew how to make handsome dudes.

>>93251893
Gwenpool is actually good, though.

>>93251307
>it's not a Star Wars crossover
PASS

>>93253757
what is keeping the comics division alive is the success of MCU. the profit is enough to keep the flop house alive.
Like how micrososft execs wanted to kill the xbox but decided to keep it alive because they can sustain it and the loses are next to nothing thanks to the company's profit

>>93252694
Eternals? Who are they? Are they going to get a movie?

>>93252913
It's almost like they don't listen to their readers, their source of income, go figure.

>>93253910
Maybe Mark Millar will finally get to use his brilliant idea for a crossover.

Which is the dumbest thing he's ever said, that he had a best-selling idea for a Marvel/SW crossover. Yeah I have one too, it's call putting Marvel vs. Star Wars on the cover and no matter what's on the inside it will sell a million copies.

>>93253605
https://www.newsarama.com/34964-marvel-offers-new-legacy-details-including-the-1-000-000-bc-avengers.html

>>93251307
Hmm, is this story going to link to Eliza/Madame Hydra?

Will we see C(uck)hthon and Set as two horny bros looking for some action?

>>93252265
Will all be ignored. Like when they had Thors axe retconned in.

>>93251307
Isn't Legacy suppose to have a twist that will ""Break the Internet""?

How is Cave-Avengers suppose to do that?

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>>93253963
I'm legit shocked it still hasn't happened. If you're going to have stupid shit like "I've killed many fathers, boy", Han, Leia and Chewie with Lightsabers, and other such stupid things, you might as well do Star Wars vs. Marvel.

The integrity of both franchise is pretty much gone to shit, so just make the most of it.

>>93254212
Its not that.

It's the final pages.

>>93254250
>Implying either franchise had integrity to begin with.

>>93254276
They at least had a lore and rules to their franchises before, but now they casually ignore the logic of their own universe just to try to jumpstart their universes. How did the First Order came to be? WHO CARES, it's more stormtroopers!

>>93251307

All they needed to do, literally ALL they needed to do to win back retailer and customer confidence, was to make Legacy Marvel Rebirth. It's the only thing that can save the company now. Clean house with all the non-selling legacy heroes and bring back the true heroes that people want to see.

But as usual marvel just doesn't get it, they cook up a stupid gimmick where it looks like they're doing a Rebirth but instead it's a shitty timetravel story with no relevance and the same shitty creative teams that have been sinking the company like an albatross since the 00s now.

How can a company still be run by the same incompetent retards for over 10 years with no sign of improvement? How can they be SO BLIND that they don't understand what they're doing?

>>93254363
>Our lightsabers are red because they bleed

>>93251307
Classic wanda with no pink stockings. My boner is ready.

Looks ultimate though.

>>93254413
Marvel is incredibly resistant to change. If they did the stuff you said, that would be an admittance of being wrong, and they absolutely will not do it

>>93254461

Which is ironic because Quesada taking over involved huge amounts of editorial and policy changes from the 90s. But I guess it's true that anyone who attains a position of power is prone to stagnate and turn what was once fresh into stale tradition. Joe Q and his cronies have all forgotten what it's like being in the trenches at their indie publishers by now.

>>93251702
But they're not Homo Sapiens, they're Homo Wakandian, which as well all know is the most evolved species on Earth.

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>>93252265
>The wheel was not invented until about 4000 years ago

>>93254276
>implying

>>93254075
I'd bet the $50 I have to my name that Elisa will be resolved by the end of Secret Empire. We don't even have evidence that Set will be involved, do we?

>>93254212
First I've heard of it. Sure you're not thinking of SE? That sounds like how Spencer would describe Steve lifting Mjolnir.

>>93254413
>Clean house with all the non-selling legacy heroes and bring back the true heroes that people want to see.
It's not even so much which characters have books (though I agree that trimming the fat there would help), as it is the same talentless writers and useless editors retaining their positions. In the editors' case you could at least say they're overworked and spread too thin. The current people in charge just have no fucking clue what they need to be doing, so flailing around and tossing out imitations of competitors' promotions isn't going to help at all.

>>93254438
Bring back the Yuuzhan Vong. Make the galaxy great again!

>>93251307
10,000 years BC I could deal with, maybe even 100,000. But 1,000,000 BC is just way too much.

>>93254559
>as it is the same talentless writers and useless editors retaining their positions. In the editors' case you could at least say they're overworked and spread too thin.

Yeah this. Basically they need to sack pretty much everyone from Alonso down.

Cavengers

>>93254559
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/marvels-legacy-break-internet-axel-alonso/story?id=46936769

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>>93253641
But one of the Legacy promos was showing off the minority and non-minority characters. What does that have to do with Cavengers?

>>93254769
3 sets of characters.

>>93252079
Liberals were a mistake

>>93251307
>Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe, in MARVEL LEGACY #1!
I was not expecting that

>>93252079
If they didn't care, we wouldn't be having Legacy in the first place. Or Eddie as Venom. Or Renew Your Vows.

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I thought these were the first avengers

>>93251684
yeah, keyword here is beloved
as in, beloved by editorial

>>93251307
>Marvel Universe, showing you how it’s truly “all connected"
Earth X already did this, and it did it well.

>>93251307
>Now, prepare to return to the dawn of time, as Marvel introduces you to the first Avengers from 1,000,000 BC – when iconic torch-bearers such as Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe, in MARVEL LEGACY #1!
is this a story that really needed to be told?

>>93255212
Kraven is as old as Dum Dum??

>>93255549
making Earth-X canon bit by bit has been Marvel's go-to method pretty much since it came out

>>93255805
Yet somehow they are still screwing the pooch.

>>93254884
Legacy isn't bringing back the characters we want. Legacy is bringing back the characters so they can pat the new characters on the back to show how great they are.

Eddie back as Venom is the equivalent of One More Day. 15 or 20 years of development for the symbiote down the drain so Marvel can pretend they're doing what the fans want. Where was this attitude 10 years ago? 5 years ago? But sure let's get Eddie teaming up with fucking Moon Girl. Because that's what the old school fans wanted all along.

Renew Your Vows is a half-assed attempt at fixing a broken heart. It's like someone ran over your dog and paid you 5 bucks as an apology. All of these things that Marvel is doing is merely surface level. All show, no substance, no sincerity.

Bravo Marvel. You actually managed to come up with an idea worse than the ones /co/ thought you'd do. And half those ideas were shitposting to make fun of you.

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ONE MILLION YEARS OF UTOPIA!

>>93254600
Axe All Alonso.

>>93254212
Knowing Marvel, it'll be because one of them is trans or some shit.

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>>93255805
Jesus Mar-Vell when?

>>93254413
Or put the legacy heroes in anthology titles alongside the originals.

But Perlmutter wants people to pay $5 for one single strip.

>>93256042
It's amazing. I expected nothing and yet was still disappointed.

>>93251892
>I'm actually surprised that nobody at Marvel has tried to say how this is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than DC Rebirth yet.
It is though. It's WAY fucking worse.

>>93255742
Those Jungle herbs and spices keep him vim and vigor.

>>93251422
>it’s the starting gun to a bevy of mysteries and secrets and revelations that will reverberate across the Marvel Universe in the weeks and months to come!
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages.
>the very best jumping on point in the history of comics
>more grand and more gargantuan than anything we have ever seen before
>expect it to be the spark that will ignite the industry as a whole.”
>the most surprising, suspenseful, mysterious, astonishing tale ever told
>will leave fans speechless!
Jesus. Can it also do my taxes and give me a blowjob?

They're overselling this way to fucking hard. It just screams desperation.

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>>93251307
>>93251422
>Hear the announcement for Legacy.
>Expect a half-assed Rebirth.

>Hear the details for Legacy.
>It's actually much, much worse.

This is the dumbest fucking shit. All the fans asked for is to give us stories with the characters we want and love. And instead they're essentially doubling down on what they've been doing and basically shoving a middle finger in the face of all their readers.

It's completely transparent what they're doing. Legacy is basically "You know all those heroes you love and thought were originals? Well they're legacies themselves! So embrace their replacements because it's really what's been happening since the beginning!" And Generations is clearly going to be what everyone is guessing in "Gee, I thought I was a good [insert superhero name] but you've awesome and it's great you're carrying the name now."

This is a complete insult to the fans who have stood by them hoping they'd turn shit around and actually give us what we want. This is Marvel spitting on your face telling you you're wrong and everything that they've been doing has been the right thing all along.

Fuck this event. Fuck this company. Eat a dick, Marvel.

>>93251422
>a bevy of mysteries and secrets and revelations
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events

So Original Sin 2?

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>>93251307
>1,000,000 BC

>>93252015
Captain Gondwanaland > Captain Pangaea

So how low are sales going to drop this time?

>>93256946
hopefully enough that someone finally just breaks Ike's arms and legs and eyes

>>93251307
>Avengers 1,000,000 A.D. never

>>93252079
Which is exactly why I steal their stuff. I'd be happy to pay them if their stories weren't shit 99.5% of the time.

>>93254538
It was invented about 5500 years ago

Now what I want to know is: what new books are getting launched? Because all the current shit books are going to keep their shit creative teams so there is no point in jumping in on any of that regardless of whatever tonal shift these books are going to try to convey post Legacy

>>93251307
>"a Wakandan"
>Iron Fist
>Agamotto
>Any human host of any kind of power
>One million years ago
>One. fucking. million. years. ago

So all these people were language lacking, mentally limited Homo Erectus?

This is the most retarded bullshit I've heard this year coming from Marvel. And something tells me it will be topped before the year ends.

>>93256646
Especially since it's just Cavengers.

>>93258152
Agamotto's older than the earth though.

>1,000,000 BC
>one million

Not copying DC One Million's, no siree

>>93258821
but dude it's like in the past lmao totally different

So its Marvel zombies but with hairy apes? They can not expect us to believe Marvel heroes a million years ago werent hairy ape-men like in 2001..

>>93251342
I swear there was a page in a Thor comic that showed Thor teaming up with a Native American ghost rider with a war, a dwarf that become iron fist, and the queen of Atlantis.

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>>93259321
>So its Marvel zombies but with hairy apes?
Uh, anon.

>>93251307

Well at least it's Aaron writing it not Bendis.

>>93259546
Oh joy, forced WACKY humor. Jason Aaron is better than Bendis, but it feels like Jason Aaron's writing is just "Hey! Here's something so absurd, it's awesome, right? Like four canons that work as a minigun that strap to this backpack that uses pym particles to shrink the canonballs down but when they are fired, they enlarge."

>>93256946
The fishiest thing about this relaunch is that they are doing absolutely minimal advertising about it. They haven't promoted any future books or any clear direction or pictures.

Marvel Now followed a very awful Civil War II and a lot of books where people didn't care. This time, they are following Secret Wars which people flat out hate (yes, some people love it). It's very unclear what Legacy is, and what's worse? It's doing vague promises like "Almost every hero will be involved", which I KNOW is going to be bullshit.

Honestly it's a good idea and been fun when done in JLA and Ellis' New Universal. But 10,000 B.C. would be a better timeframe. It sounds too far in the past. Humanity hadn't even evolved ffs.

>>93259792
Like, it would have been a fun mini, but to base your entire Marvel line around something 1 million years ago? That's incredibly forced. The idea isn't solid enough to base an entire reboot upon.

>>93259616

I'm actually shocked it isn't Bendis writing this. I honestly thought it would be as that fucker wouldn't be able to keep his greedy little paws off it. And while Aaron isn't amazing, he one of the only decent writers left at Marvel.

>>93259616
That's called imagination.

>>93259616
That's cool though.

>>93251307
>Agamotto
Didn't Bendis kill him off in a convoluted plot to make Doctor Strange the Sorcerer Supreme again?

>>93260357
maybe, but this is all happening because weird time shit so it hardly matters

>>93260235
>>93260337
That's the thing, it's the only trick Aaron has. Like Dr. Doom cutting open Hulk's head with an adamantium chain saw, or the space sharks. It just feels like extremes to showcase the characters Aaron likes, and that's it. Lord knows how much he keeps forcing Quentin Quire and how god tier Wolverine is. The guy even divided Hulk from Banner and made Banner the villain cause "Scrawny boyscouts suck, bring on the awesome brutes who get to swim in lava and bang a million chicks"

>>93251307
>>93251422
If feels like a lot of people ITT are shitty on this just to shit on it before anyone even reads it; like the go to knee jerk reaction is to shit on Marvel whenever they try anything. I mean this doesn't sound amazing or original but maybe we should wait and see how this turns out before everyone jumps aboard the hate wagon?

Also how is any of this SJW-y? Just because Black Panther is involved? Come the fuck on you people gotta be shitty me

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>>93260357
>>1 million years ago
>>Didn't Bendis kill that character

How hard do we have to Spoonfeed people.

>>93260419
We're judging it because these is supposed to be the game changer that shapes the Marvel Universe in a big way, and all it sounds like is a Jason Aaron whacky one off issue. Jason Aaron always starts strong for like, an arc, before turning to shit. Like Wolverine and the X-Men before it turns all about Quentin Quire trying to bang the black girl as they fight children Hellfire club, or Thor becoming Jane Thor.

>>93251307
>>93251422
>>93251876
>>93252908
>>93254413
>>93259913
Honestly, the whole thing sounds like a mini or event that was planned out for later but for some reason Marvel decided to promote the thing the Big Important Relauch Comic. Literally no one on this planet thought Marvel Legacy would be Marvel One Million B.C. because there is absolutely no reason to believe so.
And it wouldn't surprise me since Axel tried to say Generations was the original heroes coming back and that it wasn't some time travel where characters get zapped to the past. And then it turned out to be characters being zapped to the past to meet the characters!!! They probably planned the mini series before and later on decided to lie about the actual content to draw people in.
This is just so terrible and lazy.

>>93260419
>Just because Black Panther is involved?
Well, how does a hero themed after a panther exist before panthers have evolved? How is he a Wakandan before Africa existed? There are serious problems here without even touching on the issues of Celestials, Eternals, Old Gods, etc.

>>93260481
Well it's a good thing it's just a one shot and not another event. And I doubt that if this is going to like the Rebirth one shot that that he will be the sole archetect of this particular plot line across the entire line of books.

So yeah every needs to simmer the fuck down and calm there hate boners for once

>>93260516
Don't forget how Secret Empire's ending somehow leads into Generations.

Why should anyone have any faith in Marvel anymore when it's increasingly clear they have no direction anymore. The whole thing feels busted.

>>93260521
So that makes it some insidious SJW ploy and not continuity that will probably be retconed and explained?

>>93260436
It's just some commentary. Dawn of time, torch-bearers, and origin are in the same sentence, so I know it's in the past.
>>93260408
Wacky can be good, it's just a little jarring when it happens in the "flagship" title of franchise that's known to more serious than it is wacky. Remember when the X-Men blew up Kitty's Brood infested uterus

>>93260559
I'm just saying, this whole thing seems to contradict itself. 1,000,000 BC Avengers, in a 50 page book, that somehow will feature appearances from almost every beloved Marvel Hero an lead to a major shocking reveal? Why not promise to cure cancer while you're at it? None of this sounds like it will be coherent.

>>93260419
This is suppose to be the Biggest thing Marvel has ever done since Secret Wars. Cave Avengers (Cavengers).

This is what they got to show off. Cavengers.

This is suppose to be better than anything ever produced in comics. Cavengers.

The Bosses of Marvel gathered together to determine what they should do to gain better love from customers and retailers. Cavengers.

This is what you should be throwing $10 at. Cavengers.

There is not half-assery here. There's no effort period. It's no-assed. Cavengers.

>>93252265
GR discovering that you can roll a boulder or log on fire could be cool as a kind of Space Odyssey 2001 moment.

>>93260559
>And I doubt that if this is going to like the Rebirth one shot
That's what everyone was expecting!!!!!!
That's what people wanted!!!!!!
It would have been better if they had copied Rebirth!!!!
But instead they shit out this elseworlds/mini and promote it bigger than Jesus!!!!
Hell, it would have been better if it was the focus on 616Reed and Family coming back!!!!
Not this shit!
There was nothing but low standards, and yet they managed to still disappoint!!!

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>>93260620
The Cavengers?

>>93251307
Is Quesada's only art contribution to Marvel these churning out these event spreads? They feel so out of step with the rest of the company in terms of visuals.

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>>93252265
>horses were not domesticated until about 7000 years ago, so that Ghost Rider thing is by definition crap.
We haven't domesticated sharks but that hasn't stopped a Ghost Rider before.

>>93260604
It'll probably end up being like those Point One issues they used to put out at the beginning of their relaunches: a bunch of smaller stories with a framing device that will lay out a bunch of plot threads that will be deleved in to in the ongoing books.

Will it be amazing and tell a complete story? Probably not; but it won't be some kind of travesty either

>>93252345
The Heart-Shaped Herb only grows in Wakanda, but then again vibranium has only been there for 10,000 years.

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>>93260770
>that hasn't stopped a Ghost Rider
Indeed.

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>>93260770
Taming sharks could be a very practical skill.

>>93251573
Instead of Make Mine Marvel it should be called WE WUZ MARVEL

>>93251573
Man you sure a jumping to conclusions

>>93251307
So pretty much a retcon to say "fuck you guys it's always been a mantle"

>>93254413
>All they needed to do, literally ALL they needed to do to win back retailer and customer confidence, was to make Legacy Marvel Rebirth
Dunno, I wouldn't give a shit

It's not even about the characters right now. I'm fine with the concept of chick thor or brown ms marvel. It's about the shitty prices, shitty writing, shitty artists, shitty editors, endless shitty events/crossovers.

At this point you'd have to purge half of Marvel's staff to make me confident in them.

>>93261232

This.

>>93251342
No, I dig the idea, could be fun, but shamelessly tricking people into thinking this was some sort of Rebirth is what makes me giggle because at this point I can't get pissed off anymore at Marvel comics. It's just not worth it.

>>93261388
>At this point you'd have to purge half of Marvel's staff to make me confident in them.

Pretty much this. I don't even want much from Marvel. Like four books

>A good Daredevil book
>A good Wolverine book
>A good Hulk book
>A good Cap book

Now, while I had one out of four (while I don't like the idea of Hydra Cap I still enjoyed the Hydra Cap ongoing) that has now ended with how much Spencer shat the bed in Secret Empire. I doubt I'll ever get a good Daredevil book again; it's possible but Marvel is currently so disconnected from the urban working poor that I doubt we'll get that anytime fucking soon.

A good Hulk book is doable as soon as sometime realises that bringing Hulk back from space was bad, and sends him off to be space Conan again (Father/son Space Conan with Skaar would be ideal). For Wolverine I just want good art and violence. The writing can be mediocre as far as I care. Just like lots of snikt, blood, and beer.

>>93261492

Also, any one of these four will get me buying Marvel again even if it's just that book.

It's so fucking weird, when I first started reading comics you couldn't pay me to read DC, nowadays DC is all I'm picking up.

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>>93261232
Technically true.
There have been a lot of Iron Fists, Phoenixes, Black Panthers, Star Brands, Sorcerer Supremes, and a fuck ton of Ghost Riders. Given Marvel's history, I'm guessing the Starbrand that's showing up isn't going to be from Earth, maybe it'll be a Kree one?

>>93254413
They just doesn't care. Comics don't even sell that well overall and the merchandise is given as long as the MCU is around to make people throw money at Marvel branded stuff.

This shit is about ego, they're super pissed at fans, they truly thing they're in the right and that people who shit on them are a vocal minority in the internet. They don't care about sales, let alone quality, they just want to prove their ideas are the correct ones and will keep forcing their stupidity onto people until Disney shuts them out for good.

>>93259476
There was and it was pretty cool.
>>93251573
He did an issue of Thor that flashed back to the past and it was cool and not how you're describing. But nah you just want to be offended like a faggot.

>>93261111
Not him but Marvel does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

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>>93252859
>The idea of "Caveman" avengers could be fun

Kek.
>tfw there's already a /d/-tier porn fanfiction about that

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>>93253862
Getting paid to draw romance comics helped.

>>93256752
Even if Marvel does that, there's no denying that the original heroes such as Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, Odison Thor, Peter Parker, Steve Rogers will always be the fan favorites

>>93252004
>>93252018
Oddly some of the handbooks still reference it though

>>93251307
>Iron Fist
Are we supposed to believe a proto-human managed to defeat Shou-Lao the Undying?

>>93261793
Tard strength beats dragon everytime my man.

>>93252265
>so that Ghost Rider thing is by definition crap
Maybe he rides a wooly mammoth?

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>>93261829
nah, make it one of those megabirds

>>93261388
> shitty artists

which ones? Aside from Henderson, Anka, and the occasional lousy guest artist Marvel's pretty well off.

>>93251307
>it's not a Miracleman crossover
You had ONE job, Marvel. I'm taking my money elsewhere.

>>93251307
>>93251342
>Odin, Iron Fist, Star Brand, Ghost Rider, Phoenix, Agamotto, and Black Panther come together for the startling origin of the Marvel Universe this line up has potential, it seems f-
>Jason Aaron
I hate this gay world

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>>93251422
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages.

Jesus Christ, stop it.

Kek. It's like /co/ doesn't know how comics work.
It will be 4 or 5 pages about Cavengers teaming up and beating some shit like Galactus.
But you think it all about this Cavengers. Pathetic.

>>93253587
Thank God the didn't go with the IvX BDSM outfit.

>>93251342
This teams is so unbalanced it's hilarious.

>>93255212
Bloodstone, Kreed and Kraven? Gotta read that.

>>93251422
So, basically it's another event starting right after SE
Good job, Marvel

>>93263453
it's gonna be an initiative i think, so it's even worse than an event

>>93254250
I want it to happen in a non-canon what if crossover universe. It could be fun.

>>93263634
Shut up.

>>93256876
This.

Yes, because the original was such a brilliant concept and a big hit and we all wanted more GREAT retcons, not possible retcons to undo them.

>>93252019
Or rather, relaunch th ultimate line as a containment universe for their shit writers, diversity push, "moral ambiguity" hero vs hero endless events, inhumans push etc

>>93252452
Probably gonna be a king, but of a democracy, too.

I don't hate the idea but the timing on this and the idea that they all knew each other is retarded

>AaRon did a great job on updating GR mythos
>now everyone hates him because Whor
I have a little bit of faith

>>93264466
Hasn't the whole "Ghost Riders are actually angels" thing been mostly ignored?

>>93260770
I want more of Bolshevik bear-riding Spirit of Vengeance

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>>93264741
I'd fuck that ape.

>>93251422
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages.

>“MARVEL LEGACY #1 will present all fans – new readers and current readers – the very best jumping on point in the history of comics,”

>Not only will this be the catalyst for Marvel evolving and moving forward, but expect it to be the spark that will ignite the industry as a whole

Do these people even hear themselves anymore?

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>>93264741
I see Carol finally obtained Super Saiyan 4

>>93260995

That's pretty fucking cool.

>>93264515
He came up with that? FUCK aaron all the way.

>>93251307
>>93251422
How disappointing.

>>93264785
Marvel likes to hype stuff up.

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>>93251307
>>93251422
>Jason Aaron
>showing you how it’s truly “all connected.”
>will reverberate across the Marvel Universe in the weeks and months to come!
>No character, no franchise will be untouched
>the catalyst for Marvel evolving and moving forward
>a shocking reveal that will leave fans speechless
Marvel's people have no fucking self-awareness.

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>>93260770
>>93260995

>>93265038
It's basically him ripping off the Spectre.

>>93251307
Wait, so instead of this event bringing back the original heroes, they are just going to create even more legacy knock offs while watering down the original heroes?

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>>93265986
>mfw Mrs. Ghost Rider actually happened

>>93251422
>DC starts fucking around with Bat-tribe and cavemen JLA
>Marvel HAS to do it too but dialed to 11, with no actual changes in the forecast
Marvel is officially creatively bankrupt.

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>>93265986
>ghost ghost rider

>>93264466
His GR wasn't good though. Except for Punisher MAX, nothing he has done for Marvel has been good.

>>93266818
>Punisher MAX
>good

>>93266827
Aaron writes good crime comics. So I'm surprised Marvel just keeps on giving him Thor, X-men and Ghost rider.

>>93266877
Aaron writes good crime comics, but Punisher MAX is not one of them.

Aaron sure loves putting the solo characters he has written in everything

Im surprised wolverine and punisher aren't here

>>93254450

That costume never looks right without the pink layer. That red/pink color scheme just works better. Without it, she looks more like the Ultimate version, who was a mistake.

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>>93251422
>No character, no franchise will be untouched by the game-changing events that play out across its pages.

AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH

You serious?

>>93251422
>It all leads to the return of a major Marvel icon in a shocking reveal that will leave fans speechless!
The fact that this is singular pisses me off, since it means it's likely not the FF but something stupid like Professor X.

>>93267197
Wolverine.

>Avengers
>1 million BC

So they're just molecules and particles?

So, I've been out of the Marvel loop recently. When is this all supposed to start? I'm just getting back into things, getting Bunn's X-Men stuff because his Magneto book was great, Lemire's Moon Knight, Soule's Daredevil and Vision. Anything else worth trying and how bad is all of this stuff going to get fucked up now?

>>93260770
Aaron's Ghost Rider run is low key one of the best things Marvel's published in a while

>>93267242

Wolverine, Hulk, or Tony Stark out of his coma.

>>93267302
>I'm just getting back into things
Don't bother.
>Anything else worth trying
No.

>>93267302
>Anything else worth trying
Ewing's Ultimates/Ultimates^2 and Hasting's Unbelievable Gwenpool. The current Iron Fist ongoing is pretty good so far, too.

>>93265038
No that was Way. Aaron just kind of went with it.

>>93266818
Alan Moore put a hex on him.

>>93266107
Yes. They tricked everyone.

>>93266028
>>93268274
Honestly I liked some of the Ghost Rider stuff from some years ago, namely the hunt for the devil on Earth, but the angel retcon thing sucked.

What's worse, it even got used in the better Ghost Rider movie.

>>93267282
>Captain Aldehyde
>Fe Man
>Thorium
>H20Hulk
>Captain Magnesium
>The A-men (amino acids)

>>93251422
>It all leads to the return of a major Marvel icon in a shocking reveal that will leave fans speechless!
Who's it going to be /co/?
Who could come back that would leave fans speechless?
Spidercide?

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>>93251342
This team actually sounds really cool, all the characters mantles (sans Odin) showing off how they were in the distant past.
Shame it's Jason fucking Aaron though - talk about a boner killer.

Isn't DC's Earth actually much older than humanity thinks it is? Some secret the New Gods had to keep or some shit.
Sounds like Marvel's take on that.

>>93261688
There's not giving the benefit of the doubt and then there's getting upset about things that haven't even been hinted to be happening yet.

>>93270986
If I remember correctly, DC's Earth's humanity has branches that go back to the Mesozoic Era at least. That could've changed. But I'm near certain that H. Sapiens not being the first intelligent race of humans is still canon

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>>93271366
>then there's getting upset about things that haven't even been hinted to be happening yet.
>Marvel: Hey shemales and queer latinos! We have finally realized the error of our ways and our new comic will bring in a new era to fix everything. LOLS! JUST A PRANK, BRO! We have Cavengers!!! Suck our circumcised dicks, Goys!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!


Fuck you, Brevoort! Fuck you, Axel!

You don't deserve the benefit of a doubt. You had your chance to change and you took a shit on it.

The only thing you all deserve is be raped by dolphins.

>>93271366
I would've given them the benefit of the doubt 10 years ago. But things like the ending of the first Civil War, OMD, AvX, Bendis' X-Men, Hickman's Avengers, Civil War II, and others show me Marvel doesn't deserve benefit of the doubt.

>>93271366
We already know what's happening. It's Cavengers. See >>93251307 >>93251422 . That's the big reveal. That's what Legacy and all it's "hype" is about: Cavengers. This is suppose to be the biggest moment Marvel has made in forvever and a return to a better time. And it's Cavengers. This is the premise: Cavengers.

>>93271576
What the fuck are you even talking about? I'm saying getting mad that "Marvel is saying that all the characters were POC all along" is completely unreasonable and autistic when there isn't even a hint that that's what they're doing.

Your post being completely unreasonable and autistic while simultaneously having absolutely no idea what you're even getting upset about seems to further prove my point.

>>93271637
I mean, will it be shit? Of course. That's a reasonable assumption. Assuming they are using this as some sort of excuse to turn modern characters into black people or australopithecus or whatever conclusion that idiot was jumping to is not reasonable.

>>93271738
Again look at the context of my post. I didn't doubt that this clusterfuck was happening, I'm just not buying it's part of some SJW conspiracy.

>>93271770
Go away, Axel.

You can lie to us but you can't lie to yourself!!!!

>>93251307
>>93251422
how much you want to bet Marvel uses this opportunity to say Mutants evolved from Inhumans?

>>93271576

This is really childish and you should feel bad.

>>93271887
Your mangina is really gross and you should feel bad, Brevoort.

>>93251307
I had zero expectations and I'm still disappointed. What a shitty attempt at justifying legacy replacements. What's so fucking hard about keeping both the originals and the legacy characters? DC does it just fine like the Green Lantern books.

>>93271882
>Mutants evolved from Inhumans
Literally impossible since the X-gene was implanted at the same time as the creation of the Eternals, and the creation of the Inhumans didn't happen until after the Eternals were made.

>>93251307
>>93251422
This would work better as a What if, not the main comic of a relaunch.

>>93272986
Turns out the Eternals are inhumans.

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>>93251307
Is this going to be like JLA Obsidian Age?

>>93272986
>Life finds a way
Inhumans are secretly older than Eternals and the X-Gene.

>>93273042
I wish

>>93271770
>I mean, will it be shit? Of course. That's a reasonable assumption. Assuming they are using this as some sort of excuse to turn modern characters into black people or australopithecus or whatever conclusion that idiot was jumping to is not reasonable.

That's true. It's probably that SWC guy jumping to that conclusion.

>>93251342
>Ghost Rider is an Avenger
Finally.

Good, now all we need is Fing Fang Foom, Howard the Duck, and Millie the Model to join the Avengers and literally every Marvel character will have been an Avenger at some point.

>>93273052
>>93273019
But, again, that's impossible. The Inhumans were created by the Kree in an attempt to replicate the creation of The Eternals. If the eternals didn't exist then the kree wouldn't have the template to base their experiments on.

At most, they'll reference Tuk the Avenger and his quest to find Attilan from Captain America #1.

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worst of all this is that The Fantastic Four will be forgotten because of this shitty movie rights fight.
This would amazing since they are the first marvel group of heroes.
getting into capeshit last year was a mistake.

>>93255212
I remember when they tried pulling this shit with X-Men with the FIRST X-Men (led by Logan).

>>93273807
Turns out the Kree are inhumans.

>>93253188
Not that I know of and I googled the term and have found nothing.

But if there isn't then damn Marvel is shamelessly copying DC and not even trying to hide it or even dissimulate it anymore.

>>93270349
Fund it.