Has he ever been wrong?

>>93247313
You mean "has he ever been left"
No, he was always right

>>93247313
He abandoned his wife and newborn child so that he could pal around with his high school friends and exgirlfriend

He had a telepathic affair, cheating on his telepathic girlfriend. For a genius strategist that was just dumb.

>>93247313
A lot of time, in particular outside the battlefield, where he is generally flawless. He was pretty good until Bendis, because he was one of the few characters that was written in coherent characterization. Still, even before he did a lot of idiocy, like these ones>>>93247387

>>93247313
have you never been a contrarian faggot

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>>93247313
Only when he was Emma's bitch

>>93247387
didn't they retcon it with Mind control or destiny BS?

>>93247313
He DID marry Jean

>>93247313
He was wrong about the phoenix coming to give mutants back their powers.

>>93247313
clearly not, he even walked into my home and shot my mom and then stared at me, i knew in his righteous eyes that he was right.

>>93247313
He trusted Emma Frost, who betrayed him for cock.

>>93251037
Mutantkind got a rebirth didn't it?

Destroying inhumans fart cloud.

>>93247387
>Madelyn, my comrade-in-arms has come back from the dead! I need to see this for myself.
>IF YOU WALK OUT THAT DOOR DON'T EVER BOTH COMING BACK YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD
Madelyn cared less about their marriage than he did to drop such a petty ultimatum over someone coming back from the actual dead in the era before comic resurrections were a joke

>>93251037
So, he was righr?

>>93251540
>>93251084
Mutants didn't get their powers back, normal humans were turned into mutants against air wills, and it wasn't the phoenix's doing it was Hope and Wanda that made it happen.

But there's Scott 'I'm going to weld the tectonic plates, why am I allowed to teach chidren' Summers with a shit eating grin at the end of the story proclaiming that he's right.

>>93247873
They made him "worse than hitler" over protecting mutants from poison death clouds.

They made him a world dictator, and therefore bad, in a world repeatedly fine with the genocide of his people.

Seriously you'd struggle to write a story more designed to make those archtypes the good guy.

>>93251678
I kinda hate the rightclops crowd, but iirc his plan was always to have Hope use the power of the PF to restart mutancy in humanity.
So things did more or less work out as he planned, it was just a super shitty plan.

>>93251678
those normal humans were the humans who would have been mutants if Wanda had not used Cthonic powers to change the manifest will of the universe.


Again the avengers fucked everything up and Scott was doing what one man leading a paramilitary group can to save his people from extinction.

Better to just go the whole mutants are stupid kill the muties Permuttler. Also fuck the inhumans, death to genociders.

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He's been right since the 60s

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>>93247313
He thought that putting a x shaped visor nowhere hear his eyes was a good choice, let alone that this was a good design.

>>93252052
X-men would much more enjoyable if Cyclops went around calling dust a camel jockey.

>>93247387
so literately nothing wrong

>>93247387
>his wife
an evil clone that cavorted with demons

>>93252285
Still better than Jean.

>>93252052
>gloves
>he uses eyebeams
what did he mean by this?

>>93252332
No prints or murder weapon to convict him.

>>93247313

He dated Jean

>>93252285
At least she never turned someone gay against their will.

>>93247313
He didn't hook up with Colleen Wing when he had the chance.

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>>93247313

>>93247387
You mean he left an evil demon behind to be a hero? He still cared about them. They show up in X-Factor before he goes to Genosha for that crossover they had with rest of the teams after Siege Perilous.

Also, he was pretty much telepathically raped by Emma, who was acting as his therapist, then he got mind fucked again by dead Jean so he would stay with Emma.

Jean can also hardly claim moral high ground when she spent their entire relationship sneaking up to smooch Wolverine.

>>93253874
>being this defensive of fictional character
>still being 100% wrong
Stop cucking yourself pleb.

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why glasses stop lasers?

>>93253924
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN...kies!

>>93252332
PUNCHES
FROM THE PUNCH DIMENSION

>>93253924
Perfect pairing.

>>93253837
According to writers, it worked somehow.

Phoenix magic strong magic.

>>93253837
I find it hilarious that, even with super Phoenix powers, he still reaches for his visor as though he needs to physically switch it on/off.

>>93254148
Leave him alone, he had to do that shit for years

>>93247313
There were times. His personal life was quite a mess, to be honest. Though you can kind of expect that from an abused orphan boy turned child soldier.

Professionally, as a hero and leader, he is about as solid as they come. He bears a harsher burden than Captain America, with a fraction of the support or respect.

>>93247387
>He abandoned his wife and newborn child so that he could pal around with his high school friends and exgirlfriend

You mean he escaped a psychic vampire who was sabotaging his entire life and beating him physically.

>He had a telepathic affair, cheating on his telepathic girlfriend.

Meanwhile Jean flirted with a midget right in front of him for like 20 years. She kinda got what she deserved.

>>93251217
>Madelyn cared less about their marriage than he did to drop such a petty ultimatum over someone coming back from the actual dead in the era before comic resurrections were a joke

Ultimatums are usually a deal breaker.

>>93251678
>and it wasn't the phoenix's doing it was Hope and Wanda that made it happen.

Meanwhile had they not sabotaged the phoenix who knows what it would have done. The Avengers blew it into pieces while it was on its way back to save the day yet again.

He was wrong about his rap group. They sucked.

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>>93254635
>I've been doing this for nineteen years, you wanna fight me, fight these kids
In a sad, sad alternate timeline, Gillen never published that fan OST and X ain't gon give it to ya

>>93251824
>the manifest will of the universe

The X-gene isn't natural, the Celestials introduced it.

>>93255555
>The X-gene isn't natural, the Celestials introduced it.

The Celestials kinda are nature in teh Marvel Universe. And if the Earth doesn't have enough mutants that nature will destroy all life on Earth so, again, Scott saved every man woman and child on the planet.

>>93247313
Canonotically? Yes. But logically? No.

>>93250991
No, they character assassinated Maddie so they could kill her off and basically have Scott avoid ALL consequences for his bullshit.

Same with him cheating on Jean with Emma. Morrison's run should have ended with the two being expelled from the X-Mansion and blackballed from all X-Teams for what Scott and Emma did to Jean.

>>93255294
No, they blew it up because it was going to kill millions.

Remember, it's canon Hope was going to kill millions and basically trigger the Bishop version of the DOFP timeline, if she got the Phoenix.

Shattering it kept it from happening and ensured Wolverine did not have to carry out Hope's EXPLICIT WISH that she kill him before she killed millons

>>93247387
The thing he go wrong with the Jean/Emma situation was not just fucking both of them at the same time.

>>93258796
The Jean that was begging for an affair with Logan?

>>93247387
His evil wife that was a total psycho that manipulated him into marriage, never loved him, and used him to have a child for a blood sacrifice to Satan. Leaving her was a good choice.

He also did good on cheating on Jean, she's a bitch that never valued him unlike Emma, that loved him until the end

>>93251122
shame on the mutants for being so bigoted.

>>93259790
Emma betrayed Scott, though.

>>93259712
The Jean that killed 5 billion people?

>>93259832
Under the Phoenix influence and because cyclops was neglecting her, plus she admitted she screwed up. For Jean's whoring we'd need a calculator, and she never admitted she did anything wrong

>>93247313
>>93247313
no

>>93259900
Scott wasn't neglecting her at all. Their relationship was as good as ever. She cheated on him out of nowhere.

>>93258796
>No, they character assassinated Maddie so

Ooooh, so when Scott does something it's because he does it, but when Maddie does something it's because the writers made her do it.
Nice.

>>93258850
>No, they blew it up because it was going to kill millions.

Sure, like the last several years it was hanging out on earth or in his daughter, but this time it was different, somehow...

>Remember, it's canon Hope was going to kill millions and basically trigger

It's also canon that had Scott let the Avengers (through Wolverine) kill Hope that all life on Earth would die.

Scott wins again.

Also, Wolverine just loves stabbing Scott's people, huh? That midget has issues.

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>>93259832
She regrets it.

>>93259993
Doesn't mean she didn't do, and for no reason.

If she betrayed Scott when he was strong and caring at her side, why would she be loyal to a dead man? As far as we know, she will forget him as soon as she sees another dick.

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>>93259958
Emma was super insecure about Cyclops loving Jean more than her, even tough she was dead. Stuff like this didn't helped either.

I'm not denying she cheated on him, what I'm saying is that even then she admitted her mistake and did her best to honor Scott's memory

Has he ever been legitimately interesting?

And no, more interesting characters dying around him doesn't count.

>>93260148
X factor
Post morrison pre bendis
Some parts of Claremont run

>>93260148
>Has he ever been legitimately interesting?

No, tell us all how this guy who has threads here like every frigging day for years isn't interesting. We're all fascinated to hear your take on this.

>>93260217
>Some dudes on 4chan circle jerk over a character with Batman plot armor and anime main character harem stories.

Wow. So surprising.

What's interesting about him?

>>93260217
Rightfags

>>93260292
>Wow. So surprising.

yeah, he's just like batman because you don't like him. You going to call him a mary sue next?

>harem

Dude, you could have just said that you never read the comics. It'd have been less embarrassing for you.

>>93260345

regular fags.

>>93247313
Yes. Once he thought he wasn't right about something. He was actually right about it.

>>93260415
we're anonymous, even if I hadn't read the comics, you wouldn't know it, unless I was a dude on 4chan pretending to actually like Cyclops.

You either haven't read the comics or just like harems and obnoxious plot armor.

And it's fine if that's your thing, but don't act like there is more to it than that.

When will he be back? Marvel comics suffers without one of its best characters.

>>93260634
>just like harems

lol, yeah that noted harem that he had, er, when exactly? Dude, you're obviously out of your element or don't know what words mean. It's ok.

>plot armor.

lol

>>93260921
>Plot Armor
Basically any Cyclops story post Whedon.

>Harem
The Jean/Emma thing. The entire Bendis (Rightclops) run. Dazzler, Shield Agent, Emma, Tempus, Teenager Jean, think I'm forgetting one or two.


Face it. You like him for being right about the plot and having the other more interesting female character fight over him.

It's whatever. Comics can be power fantasy.

>>93260654

How about instead you go kill yourself you fucking faggot piece of shit fucking cock guzzler spic fuck queerbait shitfag?

>>93261311

settle down Ezekiel or no hay ride or donkey fucking after Sunday school

>>93247313
His existence is a perpetual state of wrong.

>>93261285
>The Jean/Emma thing. The entire Bendis (Rightclops) run. Dazzler, Shield Agent, Emma, Tempus, Teenager Jean, think I'm forgetting one or two.
Harem means he's banging all of them at the same time
>>93261311
Go back to your shit humans thread and enjoy reading more black bolt getting cucked

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>>93247313

He trusted Xavier. That was wrong.

And do not even ask about ... THE SECRET...

... that's just a whole 'nother kind of wrong.

I don't think he has ever been wrong in regards to mutantkind or his team.

He has been plenty wrong in his own life.

>>93247313
This one time he thought he might not be right

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>>93260148
He is the weirdest, most tragic, most impressively fucked up character in the entire X-Men franchise.
Hands down.
David Haller ain't got sh*t on Scott mutherfuckin' Summers!
Start reading his stories a little closer than you have before, there's one or two huge mind-fucks hidden in there.

>>93264144
Good answer.

>>93247313
In terms of his strategies and plans? Very rarely. In fact, its been proven that if people followed his plans, they will usually come out on top. Morally? He has been questionable, always.

I think the one thing that writers forget is what makes Scott interesting. That is the fact that he has to be in complete control of himself. See, unlike Wolverine Scott can't let his emotions ever get the better of him.

If he loses his glasses or allow them to fall off, people die. He fails in a mission, people die. He leaves, it's likely that people die. That is the kind of responsibility that Scott has always had. However, even after all the pain he always came back to fight the good fight. This made him a pillar to the X-Men and was why they would usually follow him, despite their constant undermining. Because ultimately, even though they might have not always agreed with him or even liked him, Scott was always there for them and would always help.

As for the Post M-Day stuff. The thing that made him interesting was that this pillar of support was slipping. No one, not Xavier, not Erik, nor Ororo had dealt with something this massive. They were facing extinction, and he had to find a way to save as many people as he could. That was why he began to make morally questionable decisions. As he did so, his team questioned him and undermined him, but none of them ever offered a solution or help him because they figured, it was Scott and he would deal with it.

Then after all the other bullshit from Logan and killing Xavier, he was abandoned by his former friends who didn't want to look at the monster they made, which is probably why Storm didn't take charge in IvX as she wanted to avoid the responsibility she was beginning to see that Scott had.

This is what makes him interesting. That despite his boyscout image, there is a man desperate for comfort, which makes him make shitty choices, but will always try to do right

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Cyclops is a huge loser.

>>93247313
He's dead, move the Fuck on. Jesus, it's like you're an obsessed ex girlfriend who tried to genocide another species, or something.

>>93251082
I see the white hot room has wifi.

>>93260091
>wakes up screaming JEEEEEEAAAAAAAANN
Geez, Cyclops just can't let go huh? When he gets revived he should try his luck with young Jean, double team her with his younger self

>>93254148

Habit.
Ever known someone that wore glasses their whole lives and then started wearing contacts or got LASIK?

>Be me, have shit tier eyes.
>Wore glasses since I was four.
>Started wearing contacts at 20, but still wear glasses at home.
>Even after all these eyes, still unconsciously reach to push up my non-existent glasses when wearing my contacts.

>>93255242
Yo, any sensible person should always take the side of whoever isn't forcing them to do shit.
Fuck ultimatums.

>>93252112
That is a good design, though.
It even has unnecessary armbands and plenty of pouches for snacks.

>>93266467
Needs more belts though, and preferably some more pouches too

>>93265562
>Even after all these eyes, still unconsciously reach to push up my non-existent glasses when wearing my contacts.

Exactly how many eyes have you taken?

>>93267430

I realized that I fucked up right after I hit Post. Don't ask my why stupid brain typed "eyes" instead of "years."

>Exactly how many eyes have you taken?

13, to answer your question. Exactly 13.

>>93264435

It'd be nice if most Marvel writers had this view of him.

>>93267955
Most of pre bendis post morrison writers understood him perfectly

>>93247313
Why didn't he just shot terrigen cloud with his laser eyes?

>>93261285
>Basically any Cyclops story post Whedon.

lol

>>93261285
>think I'm forgetting one or two.

Wait, it's a harem thing because there's occasional alternate ship bait littered about? How in the fuck can you stand to see a spiderman book? lol

>>93251678
>But there's Scott 'I'm going to weld the tectonic plates, why am I allowed to teach chidren' Summers

Why did he even think this was a good idea?

>>93247313
>Cyke still hasn't come back to MvC
I fucking hate Marvel

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>>93247387
>>93258796

And then we got the Goblin Queen. What kind of person complains about this?