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Was it abuse?
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Duh.
svtfoe is the most redpilled cartoon on TV.
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Why does she get a crown?
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>>93237629
No, she's just really tired.
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>>93237629
If she stayed in the kitchen this wouldn't keep happening.
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It might just be an eye problem, since the skin around both eyes are the same color, but only one is shut
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>>93237656
they don't really portray their relationship as healthy
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Remember that episode of American dad?
It's exactly like that.


Also holy shit could you just imagine the reaction to an episode about domestic abuse that had the same resolution as that episode except the protagonists and audience don't see the actual events till the last minute.
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>>93237825
>>93237878
Alright, wiseguys, what's a more redpilled show?
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>>93237903
Banshee
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>>93237903
mr bean
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>that season 3 opening
Marckie fags BTFO?
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>>93237903
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
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>>93237629
I saw it as the right eye being missing because it never opens + that fits the shit conditions of their house.

But while in-universe it doesn't seem to be a black eye (all their eyes have that shading) I do think from a character design perspective it really is supposed to come off like one, to play up Ludo's shit home life without actually stating it.
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>>93237746
She's part of a royal family.
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>>93238047
Will never be redpilled no matter how much you shill it.
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>>93238062
was*

The mewmen invaded and took over all monster kingsoms and created ome that they ruled. Over time they realized the wrongdoings and started to gove the vatious races lordship status
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>>93237903
As far as animated shows go Gumball is the most redpilled shoe I've ever seen, but star is the runner up
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>>93237629
She probably just walked into a door. She's clumsy like that.
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>>93238062
>tfw you will never purge monsters with magically enhanced abilities and equipment for the glory of your queen
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>>93238137
This, any show that tells you that sometimes money it's more important than dignity it's right on my book.

Stinky was wrong.
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>>93238137
>tfw gumball really is redpilled

Would Gumball eat Darwin?

Or would they just find some way to survive, or perhaps that's the innocence they have..they don't know that they're edible...they're children completely oblivious to the fact...
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>>93238281
They don't tend to go too far into the species explanations, but the social commentary on the family structure as well as middle class America is as redpilled as it gets
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>tfw Ludo and Toffee will be sharing the same body and arguing for all of season 3
I'm so fucking ready
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>>93237903
ttg

of course no one would fucking know because theyre too busy shilling the ttg sucks meme
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>>93238386
NO

Give Toffee His Sex Bod Back 2017
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>>93238357
What about Upperclass or lowerclass america?

Also we can clearly see that Gumball's sister is a rabbit which tend to be herbivores so...perhaps that dynamic is what keeps the family together?

Gumballs mother is also a Cat and Darwin is a fish so...anyway...
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>>93238485
The snout ruins the design
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>>93238495
Sorry about your shit taste
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>>93238493
I don't think the actual animalistic aspect is to be taken that seriously. One of the chatacters is a fucking lemon snocone
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>>93238386
I'm not even sure Ludo is in there
but if he is, I can't wait for him to be as miserable as possible, so that when he gets his well deserved happy ending, it feels sweeter
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>>93238137
Best answer. I've seldomly seen a show so self-aware that it deconstructed itself dozens of times without fail.
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>>93237997
>mfw the timing and animation was all perfect in the original opening
>mfw seeing the season 3 opening

Star Vs. was genuinely one of my favorite cartoon openings of all time why did they fuck it up?
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>>93238546
Have you ever tried lemon and fish together?
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>>93238523
Is it supposed to be implied that Toffee's very serious buisness-esq demenor is a phase he only adopted after his defeat by Moon and that before that he was much more straightforwardly aggrissive?
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>>93238622
I like to think it's on purpose so it hints at things not being quite right with the characters
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>>93238485
before the tapestry reveal what exactly made Toffee fanartists think the hair and humanlike anatomy were totally believable for a lizardman, but nipples were just a bridge too far?

I mean admittedly I never thought we'd actually get a shirtless Toffee scene but going by the designs of all the other monsters it seemed p obvious he'd have them
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>>93238047
>brainwash a town and attempt to destroy the world
>forgiven with no repercussions
>redpilled

Fuck you.
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>>93238686
I like to think this is his real personality and in that moment where success was near he couldn't hold himself
just imagine toffee laughing maniacally with a high-pitched tone
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>>93237825
>Redpill is a trigger now
Sorry you have shitpost PTSD anon
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>>93238741
This.
After his defeat he spent years, maybe even decades, plotting his revenge and forming a more serious tone, but he can't change who he is on the inside
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>>93238137
Clarence had its titular character win the school election only to use his place of power to destroy the system from the inside and establish an anarchy state that controlled the school
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>>93238622
you realize that's just a rip placed on youtube by someone right? Odds are it didn't rip right. You can tell in some parts that the music is very noticably off from the animation so it's pretty clear it's not supposed to be that way. I'm sure when the show drops it'll be correct.
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>>93238724
NOT. OKAY.
Star is pure.

but also admittedly hot, so... source?
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I'm still waiting for toffee to kill jackie. Maybe give marco a little surprise finding her dead body.
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>>93238782
I want to see River vs. Toffee. At heart, they're both barbarians, and their battle would be absolutely fucking savage.
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>>93238686
>>93238741
There's been fanworks they characterize him as much more wild before the tapestry event and only decided to get smart after.
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>>93237629
She posted the wrong thing about Steven universe in tumblr
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>>93238686
His brief S2 appearances really gave me that impression

It's not where I thought they'd go with the character but I like that it's pretty much the opposite of the most popular fanart depictions in the past, where they all went for "gentleman" or whatever. Guy's a fucking warlord
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>>93238808
I don't know source, but here's more
http://imgur.com/a/ODX5S
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>>93237629
no, it was an explaination that fell on deaf ears, twice.
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>>93238819
>disney channel
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>>93238899
Disney has been willing to have someone killed off on screen in the past.
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>>93238845
Holy shit many thanks
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>>93238845
based anon
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How do you feel about this guy?
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>>93238551
I'm assuming the "Ludo's not here right now, but if you want I can takw a message" is proof enough that Ludo is still there and will get ample amounts of control over the body.
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>>93238958
He needs to stop playing sides
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>>93238958
He needs to find a loo to poo in.
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>>93238966
He already has
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>>93238834
man I'd fuck that
toffee is so hot that even reading his quote while he's inside someone else's body is enough to remind me of how much I'd tap that
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>>93238959
>>93238551
That teaser might have been implying Toffee can't remain in control of Ludo at all times without siphoning off more magic

Ludo as Ludo was shown attacking Mewni, and there was that closeup of Toffee's hand seeming withered or something
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>>93238966
He needs to stop scraping sides
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>Ludo will BTFO toffee
I can't wait
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>>93238622
Complete downgrade in animation.
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>>93238958
He's as True Neutral as it gets. I don't think Glossaryck really cares about what happens, as long as it is interesting and he gets pudding.
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I hope this won't be like superjail where they change studios and everything goes to shit.
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>>93238958
The guy is a massive asshole, so I enjoy seeing him generally not care about the wellbeing of the cast.
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>>93239070
They already changed studios over 2 years ago. Multiple times.

Some of the comments about the new intro are weird to me because the show itself has looked worse than that multiple times in the past, including Season 2, but for some reason that's hardly ever commented on. The intro is the least interesting part of an episode anyway once the novelty wears off
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Janna is going to get her guts ripped out and spill out all over the fucking floor and start puking blood before getting shot.
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>>93238834
>>93238822
>>93238741
Toffee's "lawyer" persona was made up almost entirely for his plan to get Ludo to trust him.
Pic related. Everything that has happened has gone exactly according to Toffee's plan.
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>>93239132
You're generally expected to try harder on the opening. It's the first thing someone will see when they first start the show, and the one bit of animation that will be shown in every single episode.

So this excuse people keep bringing up of "well it looks at least as good as the regular show" doesn't really fly.
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>>93239036
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>>93238958
My guess is that he is only allowed outside the book while he is training a princess and then he goes back inside and waits until there is a new princess to train
So he takes advantage of being free to have as much crap food and fun while he can because who knows how long g it is until he can be outside again
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>>93239242
Why would people compare it to the Regular Show, anyway? Wouldn't they compare it to Star oh wait
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>>93239242
I'm actually not using that as an "excuse" (I don't think either intro has been that great really, the first at not really representing the show well, the second for the animation issues).

I'm saying the show itself has looked WORSE than this in the most recent season, but everyone seems totally surprised by the quality of the new intro when it's exactly the type of animation you'd expect after a full season of seeing Rough Draft. Or alternatively, no one seems to notice just how bad the show has looked at times in the actual episodes, which to me is worse-- can ruin a scene if it looks bad enough, while the intro's always the same.

Also if someone's watched far enough in the show to see the S3 opening, the opening probably isn't the thing that will get them to stop watching. This far on the ride people are probably already committed.
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>>93238845
>pedoshit
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Star vs is basically rick and morty with a spic.
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>>93239346
>Rick Sanchez
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>>93239346
>Sanchez
rick and morty are spics
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>"I just wanna talk, Buttfrog"
"Buttfrog not even my name!"
>"REALLY? Is it...Butt...frog?"
"No, it's not Buttfrog"
>"...is it Chad?"

I fucking love this show
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>>93239345
Welcome to 4chan. Fuck off whenever.
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>>93239364
so they're the same show?
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>>93239346
>Rick Sanchez
>SANCHEZ
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>>93239345
>Watching a cartoon for 8-year olds
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>>93239369
His name isn't Buttfrog either broskie. It's Bufffrog.
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>>93239315
Also I guess just to clarify more: both intros are okay, both could've been better, placing so much importance on them at all is weird to me 3 seasons in.

The art quality of episodes typically isn't awful or anything but some scenes etc. can look pretty bad when watched out of context, when the flow of story etc. isn't distracting from other things.
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All the cancerous Jackiefags complaining about her exclusion from the intro are really turning me away from this fandom.

Please tell me the majority of us are sane and don't really give much of a shit about Jackie or her feelings

Also is Glossaryck really on both sides?
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>>93239346
rick is as spic as it gets
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>>93239404
Huh...
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>>93239435
whether you like it or not, Jackie has a large following in the community.

Alsi we can't say for sure where Gliddaryck lies
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>>93239435
Fuck off starcuck.
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>>93239376
4chan is not for your kind anymore
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>>93238495
the snout is totally fine for a lizard/alligator thing but means every attempted humanization of the character will inevitably look terrible because they just give him animeface or something

there are seriously 0 good ones
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>>93239518
sauce immediately thanks
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>>93239477
>large following
HA
maybe in strict numbers but relative to most other characters (even JANNA of all people, and perhaps even Kelly), she's bottom of the barrel
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>>93239511
You'll never come into somebody's home and kick them out of it, nigger. I've outlasted worse than you.
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>>93239539
Maybe anon means Jackie's followers are fat.
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>>93239539
>I don't like her so nobody else should
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>>93238834
I really hope Ludo gets a moment where he gets to kick Toffee's ass, poor little dude has gone through more shit than anyone else on the show.

>still standing
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>>93239536
http://627ajuka.tumblr.com/
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>>93239477
This.
Jackie is super popular
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Name one thing janna has contributed to the show, she's a dirty gypsy who only exists to be annoying.
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>>93239574
You and me both. I wanna see a Sam moment from Ludo. Taking control just long enough for the monster controlling him to be destroyed.
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>>93239597
Ahw'a hot
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>>93237903
Steven Universe
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>>93239602
Janna isn't even attractive
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>>93239562
Probably, and they're mad their super idealized waifu is unobtainable and no one gives a shit about her
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>>93239618
>>93239562
Projecting, starco faggots are completely insufferable.
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>>93239549
I'll just have to wait for the mods do their job then you won't be able to post your shit fetish in my threads anymore
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>>93239562
u callin me fat
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>>93239597
She caused the Jackie drama

Think about it, if Janna was gone too, both of them could be explained away as "they're earth characters who can't fight, it makes sense". But with Janna there, the Jackie exclusion is obvious.

This whole autistic situation is her fault, all because she had to lay down with her cellphone doing nothing in the intro.
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>>93239576
holy shit ily anon
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>>93239638
>my threads
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>>93239638
Get out of here you double nigger. I'm not into that shit either, but no one should give a fuck. No one is asking what gets you off.
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>>93239435
t. Star Butterfly
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I can't wait for more jackie development while star suffers. Your tears will taste extra salty.
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>>93239346
Moron.
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>>93239435
I will be laughing when the starcucking continues in season 3.
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>>93239739
Jackie development is happening regardless
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>>93239617
Her personality is
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>>93239757
To deluded starcucks it isn't.
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>>93239435
Glossaryck doesn't have a side. Sides, alliances, friendship. All simple concepts.
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>>93239739
Jackie must suffer too, but only if she gets something in the end, like Ludo. At least i hope he gets something in the end.
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Regardless of whether you like her or not you can't deny it's odd that they'd spend the whole 2nd season gradually making her more important only to completely remove her from the opening. They can't have just forgotten about her.

If anything her exclusion probably means she's going to be even more important. But in an unexpected way that they didn't want t spoil. Maybe she becomes a villain.
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I want to kill Jackiefags, they make our fandom look bad
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>>93239788
Starcucks do that on their own.
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why is every fucking character in this godforsaken show so goddamn good? I tried so hard to pick a favorite but they are all so good I can't
marco has the crossdressing thing going for him, star is a qt, toffee and tom are super hot, ludo deserves better plus he has daddy issues and that's always a win in my book when picking favorites, buff frog is the perfect man, brittney is a classic bitch and those are always fun, jackie has a great body
help what do
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>>93237893
>Remember that episode of American dad?
What episode?
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>>93239780
I can deal with Jackie suffering so long as it's not like "lol, Im breaking up with you" then the next time we see Jackie is the end of season 3 where they pawn Tom or Oskar off onto her or something.

Give her at least a decent amount of respect by giving her 1 or 2 episodes (out of around 35ish if they're mostly 11 minute episodes) to exploring how she handles not being part of "the group".
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>>93239799
It'a a very wwll written show... well, season 2 is at least
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>>93239788
lol keep telling yourself that
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>>93239654
Japanese Star fanart is fun

show inspired by anime suddenly getting more anime, or something
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They had bewn hinting at Ludo turning good for a while now. Moon sees him as a sad little boy that just wants tp bw loved and it'a pretty clwar hw carws about his Brother Dennis.
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>>93239808
>Give her at least a decent amount of respect by giving her 1 or 2 episodes

this probably will happen

by now everyone should probably stop seeing intro/promos as NOTHING BUT THIS WILL HAPPEN when we've been through this kind of thing like 100 times

I don't think she's gonna become a more prominent character and I don't even really care (I like her, but there's more interesting stuff going on right now), but I also don't think the show is going to shit on her or anything either

>>93239782
it's not too weird considering most, if not all, of her importance that season was connected to the romance aspect. when that ends, so does her role (for now) as a secondary character.

I do expect her to continue to show up in some form at least
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LWT ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY FAMILY
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>>93239852
and the fact that he wasn't taken very seriously from the beginning when he just wanted to prove himself, ngh
Ludo is the perfect candidate to ultimately fight against toffee alongside star, he did get some magic training after all, didn't he? wait hold on
screencap this
in the end, star will willingly give Ludo the wand so he can use it to fight with her, since she just needs to "deep down" to use her powers
imagine the happiness in Ludo's eyes when he can finally get his hands on it, and he uses it for good
heck I feel like I just spoiled myself the finale
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>>93239808
I was hoping for more than a couple episodes, but I'll take what I can get. It would be really shitty if they threw her under the bus, jarco canon or not, but I trust Nefcy on this one. I expect to see development in both her, Janna, Tom, and Ludo in S3.
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>>93239597
Being the perfect wife for Marco
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>>93239931
That's just a bare minimum

And keep in mind, what I'm suggesting is one or two episodes where she is THE main character
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>>93239796
Starco fans, jackiefags and cuckstarfags are all annoying but also tend to make good art so I forgive them
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>>93239808
the Jarco break up will be really cheap, i can feel it in my bones
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>>93239986
I would like to see her go on some adventures with the group. I get the feeling that janna and star might team up against her and test her because they both, to some extent, want the diaz.
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>>93239799
I want to make love to Ludo, feel his little hard penis deep inside my cooch, pounding me over and over until he comes. Tell him I love him and hold him close to me as he sleeps.
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>>93240062
Delet
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>>93239986
I'm not sure she'll get that

but I can see a Just Friends-styled episode where the focus is heavily on her and Marco's relationship, with no Star. just seems likely to be from Marco's point of view
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>>93240008
It doesn't matter how badly written it would be, the majority of fans will celebrate like if they won a war or something.
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>>93240062
ludo plz
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>>93240062
Best he can do is a cloacal kiss, sorry.
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>>93240113
It's just autism, go to /v/ if you want to see fanboyism at its most pathetic.
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>>93240091
But if Marco isn't there on Earth then can that really happen?
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>>93238819
I'd rather he kill Janna
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>>93239315
I think people just didnt realize how shit the animation has become. I've been in threads where people couldnt even tell the studios changed halfway through season one
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>>93240146
before he catches up with Star, or even after he's spent a couple days on Mewni

he has the scissors so nothing's stopping him from going back and forth (except for the impending war I guess but this could always be before or afterward)

Star being on Mewni at least means it could be a 1-on-1 thing, no "third wheel" issue
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WAIT HOLY SHIT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING

maybe the ability to use dimensional scissors is temporarily nullified because of the loss of magic throughout the multiverse

and so if Marco (and Janna too, for some reason) go to Mewni to find Star, they can't get back. we don't see Jackie because she's stuck on Earth

notice that aside from those two, Pony Head and Tom live on Mewni already, and Kelly presumably does as well since she's seen with Mina in the opening. nobody can go anywhere but Mewni because all the main characters are now grounded there

(I did see Adam mention an episode with Mrs. Diaz from late in the season, but that could get cleared up by then + presumably phones would still work)
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>>93240062
STOP
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>>93240282
YOU STOP
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>>93240062
You're not a girl, depraved girls don't come here.
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>>93240323
Actually I'd imagine the only girls that come here are the depraved ones.
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>>93239799
thot begone
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>>93240341
I wonder if the ones who want to get fucked by toffee are even girls at all.
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>>93240365
I'm a girl
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>>93240365
Having feeling for Toffee is completely normal.
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>>93240365
You think you're man enough for a real woman? Some of us need a barbarian king with a lizard dick.
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>>93240385
Uh-huh. And do you have XX chromosomes or XY.
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>>93240365
There are more faggots than real women on 4chan.
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>>93240385
>girl (male)
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>>93240395
XX
like SEXX
with Toffee

I don't see what the problem is here
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>>93240400
Well duh, everyone's a faggot on 4chan.
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>>93240273
Pony head is from the cloud kingdom and tom is from hell, both implied to be different places from mewni
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>>93240438
But still the same dimension.

Pony Head's above it and Tom's beneath it, but closer together than Mewni and Earth are
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I miss brittney.
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>>93240438
They are different planes OF Mewni, not different place from. Butterflys interact freely with Ponyheads and Lucitors.
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>>93240463
You're the only one
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>>93240449
Well, then technically they're separated along the z-dimension, one might say. Which is a similar principle to being separated along a fourth dimension, except it's a gap that can be crossed without Hekapoo's help.
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Doesn't Tom constantly visit Marco just by riding an elevator? Or does the elevator make portals when it's used, I can't remember.
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>>93240530
It doesn't show exactly how it works but it probably makes portals somehow, we just aren't seeing them.

Hard to illustrate that if it's only shown moving up or down.
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>>93238958
Happy merchant meets Pajeet.
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>>93240530
They very much imply that the scissors aren't the only thing able to cross dimensions.
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>>93240323
I have XX Chromosomes and I want to suck Toffee's and Ludo's monster cocks.
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>>93237629
Stop being a monsterphobe.
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now THIS is the kinda shit we need to see more of
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post liggers
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>>93240573
this, but add Tom and Marco and most of the girls in the cast too
>>93240463
same
I want to see her interact more with ludo
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>>93240648
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>>93238845
I wanted to look away but I just couldn't
>>93240573
You're missing a few chromosomes bud
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>>93240642
That's some mighty craftsmanship.
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>>93240682
>>93240648
What's that?
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>>93240648
Bird Star is far superior to Lizard Star
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>>93237629
No, random shit just falls off the ceiling as you see in that scene. Something must've hit her in the eye.
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Is this correct?
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>>93240691
Well, my uterus craves Toffee because he's a classy calculating villain in a sharp suit, and the reason I desire Ludo is because he's voiced by Alan Tudyk and the character himself is tragic and has redemption potential, which is hot to us women. We love to feel like we can save and fix a mess of a man, specially a powerful one, that will kill anyone who dares to hurt us, that will impregnate us with healthy strong children. It's fucked up primitive instincts what make us like this
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>>93240711
The pentultimate of cute

>>93240682
>>93240784
Sod off
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>>93240408
girl (me) x Toffee (male)

pretty sure Daron recently said she designed Toffee to be a sex symbol so if you watch and don't want to fuck him, you're watching it wrong
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>>93240799
Also, the weird shit star talks about probably actually happen and/or are just misunderstandings from relating earth things to her old life.

Mable is just off in lala land.
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>>93240817
Oh you're a woman. I thought you were just being a prick and using Roman numerals
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>>93240820
>>93240711
>>93240682
>>93240648
Here's your forum for it: >>/trash/
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>>93240799
I find them both insufferable. Jackie best girl. Janna best boy, though.
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>>93240860
FAIL ARMY has arrived.
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>>93241003
>>93241016
Why does she have toothpaste hair?
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>>93239807
Francine literally walks into a door or something like that, and the neighbors think Stan is beating her.
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>>93238686
I'd imagine he reevaluated his entire approach after that, and started reading up on the mechanics of magic to make his keikaku.
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>>93241027
It's natural.
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>>93241032
didn't that happen on the simpsons too?
and it happened in himym too, I think it's a trope
but I don't think it applies with ludo's mom
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>>93241027
Why is Star a filthy bug that can't keep her pants on and is into cuckolding?
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>>93241067
She doesn't wear pants.
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>>93241056
>Ludo Loud
I smile every time.
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>>93241003
Star and Mabel are sort of equally terrible people, the difference is that the universe doesn't Star get away with all her shit, and she doesn't have a brother to scapegoat
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>>93241076
It's a figure of speech, Star. Like Hobo Stew.
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>>93237629

I'm hoping it turns out that Lady Avarius lost her eye in a fight with Moon.

>>93238386
>>93238551
>>93238959
>>93239026

Is Ludo even aware that Toffee can control him? When Moon and the magic counsel came to confront him, Ludo didn't warn them about or mention Toffee. Maybe every time Toffee takes over, Ludo blacks out and he thinks he just sleeping.

It could be cool if he knew or found out and worked on a way to "exorcise" Toffee. Does anybody have that fanart of Star separating Toffee from Ludo by chopping off his hand?

>>93238686

Before his confrontation with Moon, he might have thought it was impossible to kill him, filling him with overconfidence. After Moon's super dark spell of fuck-up-immortal monsters took him down a peg, reminding him that he can be killed after all, it caused him to serious up.

>>93239574
>>93239598

I wonder if we'll ever see him get his big boy body and wreck some shit.

Speaking of that, how would Ludo know that getting the wand would have that effect on him unless some other monster has already done it before him?
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>>93241288
>Speaking of that, how would Ludo know that getting the wand would have that effect on him
Lobster Claws
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>>93241338

That episode came after Ludo was talking about getting big from holding the wand.
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>>93241338
Which makes for a more interesting question: Why didn't the half-wand have any type of affect on him? Toffee?
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>>93240860
And there he is, our resident Barneyfag

Neck yourself
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>>93241288
>Does anybody have that fanart of Star separating Toffee from Ludo by chopping off his hand?

I could just see it now
>Middle of battle, Marco surprises Toffee!Ludo with a sword to the arm
>Ludo instantly returns to normal starts saying sorry for everything he's done, pledges to never do evil again
>No one watches the severed arm, it starts to regenerate
>Toffee's head pops out, everybody runs for their life
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>>93241288
>Speaking of that, how would Ludo know that getting the wand would have that effect on him
He knew he might cast a spell on himself
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>>93241288
Ludo saying he "woke up" after reading Eclipsa's chapter implies he doesn't know about the possession. Him wrecking shit with the Toffee arm/wand in the promo at least shows he's aware of that, but if he didn't realize it was Toffee's arm before it was fused to him he won't now.

I've seen the picture with Ludo's arm chopped off but all I have saved is the aftermath.
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>>93241416
I'm gonna cry so hard I just know it
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>>93241449
>tfw you were about to go to sleep

Thanks for the update Gourd
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>>93241080
I think the universe still lets Star get away with a decent amount of shit, but when someone has to face consequences for Star's actions, it's always Star.
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Does Ludo know what "deep down" is? That scene where he was eating soup with a wand looked kinda suspicious.
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>>93241779
You mean, Dip Down?
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>>93241779
I don't think he knows, but him eating the soup is clearly a reference to the hobo stew analogy from the beginning of the season. He was getting the broth, but not getting the chunks.

It's possible only Mewmans have this ability, and even then it could be only royals, or even just females of the Butterfly bloodline.
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>>93241797
...yes, sorry.
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>>93241779
I repeat what I said, no he does not, star will lend him her wand when the final battle comes
probably only members of the royal family can dip down, so she won't need a wand
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>>93241779
He just wants to make his own hobo stew.
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>>93237629
Bitch fell down a stairway of door knobs, made of fists.
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>>93238179
>Needing magic
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opinion on this ship?
personally I only ship Ludo with Toffee because seeing him suffer is cathartic
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>>93241958
Only in platonic way.
I have nothing against people who ship this though.
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>>93241958
gets cute art and I like how the show just keeps making the parallels between them greater. wouldn't say I actually ship it in the sense of wanting to see them make out or something, but then I'm not sure I've seen any actual Studo art that does that anyway

I liked the Ludo/Toffee dynamic in S1 and it's only reached a more fucked up level by having Toffee's manipulation now take physical form.
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>>93241837
Will it be chunky?
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>>93238686
I like to think that he's like Ratigan from The great Mouse Detective.
A gentleman on the outside, but pull few levers in correct order and you will get a feral monster.
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>>93237629
thoughts on Janna's pape?
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Posting coloured hekapoo
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>>93242633
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>>93242633
>>93242642
This is great
Shouldn't a bit of hair above her eye be glowing too? Kinda seems like only one eye is glowing, which is weird
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Can somebody explain the "Star is a lizard" meme to me? Where did it come from?
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>>93242740

It comes from an AU where Toffee is Star's dad instead of River. It's totally dumb because Lizard Star still acts the same way she usually does even though she gets a lot of her personality from River.

Anyways, some people got a boner to lizard Star, so they post her a lot.
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>>93242740
Faggotry. It came from pure, black faggotry.
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>>93242740
>some people ship Moon/Toffee
>some people imagine an AU in which they canonically fucked and had a half-Mewman half-monster Star, or "Monstar"
>those same people draw and edit pictures of Monstar
>/co/ latches onto the scenario of Monstar like the autistic waifufags they are
>Monstar becomes its own separate thing here free from the Moon/Toffee backstory
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>>93242763
>>93242766

Oh, I thought it had to do with the actual plot, thanks buddies.
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>>93242740
Toffee seemed to have weirdly intimate knowledge of how the Butterfly family's magic worked, so this got people thinking that Moon and Toffee probably had some connection. And since this is the internet, 'some connection' meant 'full blown relationship'.

Thus, Moonfee + MonStar
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>>93242740
Shitposters got bored of roleplaying Star, so they took AU fanart of Star or "MonStar" as Toffee and Moon's daughter and started shitposting her.

Eventually, these threads were overtaken by those kind of posts, and were not helped by "artists" and fanfiction "writers" joining in on the fun since no one would pay attention to their shitty work otherwise. Since it was hiatus, there were no canon content nor discussion that could prevent it so other AUs rose up and some even started roleplaying as them. Shit like Sky Butterfly, Sky's older sister. So, we had full non-ending threads, during a hiatus, with posts that had nothing to do with the actual show
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>>93242696
good point. Will take that into consideration next time. Thanks
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>>93242740
Autism that belongs in the /trash/. It's an even worse kind of autism than Cinnamonposting.
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>>93242779
I was ambivalent at first but now I do actually want them to be related

they wouldn't even really be related but it's still enough of a non-romantic connection to cause a few freakouts
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>>93242823
I think at minimum, they'd be 9th cousins, which means nothing since almost all laws against cousin marriage ends at 2nd cousins, and they would share 0.00097% of their DNA.
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>>93242896
That's true, but with Eclipsa still being alive in the present and probably considered a "grandma" by Star it makes things kind of weird. At least more so than if she were dead for centuries.

I'm sure people would continue shipping it because yeah, not actually related, but it'd freak out those who don't want them to be connected that way at all.
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>>93242922
I think what'd piss me off the most is that I would probably ironically still ship it and now have to fend off normies that can't understand that through most of human history, people have been mostly banging their 5th cousins or closer because villages didn't get large enough to support anything more
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>>93242994
I think most people are at least vaguely aware that you're barely more related to your >2nd cousin than you are to some random person off the street.
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>>93243050
Well, anon, that kind of autism sounds like something that belongs in the >>>/trash/.
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>>93243050
Who let you out of your containment board?
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>>93242633
>>93242642
I wouldn't make the blush so red, if you want my drawings to look good in color, you would have to redo the lines.
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he's beautiful
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Is Baby on good terms with Glossaryck? Seems like they would be at ends with each other, since she evaluates Glossaryck's teaching ability. I'd like to be on very good terms with Baby.
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>>93243152
Yeah...well... maybe so.
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>>93243292
A for effort.
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>>93243305
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>>93243459
Oh no i didn't mean to hurt you so, i'm really flattered by your work.
Don't give up anon, i love you.
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>>93243292
>>93243305
>>93243459
>>93243512
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>>93243305
Let's see how you color.
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>>93243590
http://dead-carl-artblog.tumblr.com/post/161405679514/tried-to-color-something-for-a-change-and-some
Uuuh sure, last thing i colored.
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>>93243612
So why don't you color your Hekapoo image then?
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>>93242777

YOU SEE THIS

DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU LIGGER POSTERS HAVE DONE
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>>93243645
Because it takes so long and i enjoy working more with sketches and doodles.
I know i should color more of my drawings, my excuse is that i don't have a good coloring style,
the only way i could develop a coloring style would be actually coloring. . . .
i'm sorry i'm so lazy
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>>93243244
Possibly she normally evaluates whether the potential shown by princesses is worth having Glossaryck continue to work with them at all.
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>>93240323
>depraved girls don't come here
S W E E T S U M M E R C H I L D
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I desire more Hekapoo
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>>93238485
This
I can't fap to Ludo with his moldy skin and skinny ass chicken body.
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>>93239769
The personality is the most important part for a girl
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>>93244040
Which is why Jackie is the last choice
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>>93238706
Then he would be half mammal.
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>>93244008
if you don't think Toffee can't rock that look then obviously you don't deserve him

do it. fap to Ludo
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>>93238047
Its a libtard show. Their creators mock Trump every day on twitter.
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>>93238822
I wonder why did Toffee flinched when Marco called him "boring" in Storm the Castle. Perhaps he was called that way in the past?
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>>93244065
why else would Rasticore be described as "part lizard?"
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>>93238958
He's the main villain after Toffee and Eclipsa get defeated.
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>>93244089
Maybe it was Marco digging into what Toffee lost putting on the 'lawyer getup' trying to get his revenge
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>>93239037
Not gonna happen. After He get his finger he will regain full body and toss away Ludo like a used condom.
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>>93243736
ayo hol dup
so you wuz sayin
its liggas fault for people not knoin shieet?
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>>93237903
Better question, what's a more bogpilled show?
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>>93239435
This is how desperate they became to damage control the intro
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>>93244127
I wish I could be Toffee's used condom
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Remember when everyone was the same in Mathmagic except Tom replaced Marco, and Boo Fly replaced Jackie.

Does this mean anything?
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>>93237629
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>>93244189
Monster mind swap episode is soon
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>>93244060
yep and janna the first
she is the perfect girlfriend for marco
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>>93244212
I sexually identify as a Janna.
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>>93244212
Your boy, Janna, ain't got a chance in hell.
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>>93244212
>>93244224
Jannafags, begone.
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>>93244224
Glad to see you came out as a gypsy ladyboy
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>>93239435
Why are you this salty that some people like a character and wish to see her, anon?
It's not normal for you to be this rustled.
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>>93244236
Because she's literally the worst one to invest in. Not only is she not interesting, she's inherently harmful by threatening Starco
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>>93244236
I'm not that guy but I think it's pointless to complain about the intro as though it presents what will be shown the entire season when we have 2 past examples of the intro not doing that
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>>93239435
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>>93244254
>she's inherently harmful by threatening Starco
>this is what Starcucks actually believe
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>>93244254
>she's inherently harmful by threatening Starco
boohoo anon,
>>
I'm tired of the Jarco and Starco drama

When will it end?
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>>93237629
Would bang, honestly.
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>>93244302
When you filter both
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>>93244302
when people dont bitch and moan about a cartoon pairing being canon or not and complain that a character isnt the way they want them to be.
So never,
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>>93244254
You do realize she cucked herself, right?
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>>93244302
When people realize Hekapoo is best girl.
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>>93244189
Monster King Marco.
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>>93244275
People wouldn't complain that much if Jackie was actually developed as a character.
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>>93244381
Im already with you there, brother.
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>>93244428
She's plenty developed and is a good character. You just don't like because you don't like a good body. You are yearning for flat because you are repressing desires for a prepubescent boy.
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>>93240365
I see female OC's on devian art fucking TOffee so he is visibly attractive to female audience.

But yeah, Ludo being fuckable is a meme. He is only drawn as a joke or as a manchild.
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>>93244455
does this look like a joke to you?
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>>93240438
Its the same dimension. PH live above on the clouds and Tom live underground in the same dimension.
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>>93241506
Eclipsa and Toffee will become his foster parents
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>>93244434
Hek yeah!
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>>93242763
This
Toffee+Moon would create a very level headed and talented daughter, not this Pinkie Pie clone
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>>93244275
Didn't read the filename so at first I thought Marco was making out with a teen Moon.

It was hot.
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You think Marco is a cat or dog person?
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>>93244075
Yet /pol/ still wants the /mlpol/ alliance to continue.
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>>93244551
Moon gets Marco any other time he isnt already railing Hekapoo
>>93244567
didnt marco say he was allergic to cats?
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>>93238523
This amuses me more than it really should.
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I like that Star will grow up to have big fuckoff Butterfly wings and not the tiny little pixie wings everyone drew pre-Game of Flags

I love this freaky bug thing
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>>93244302
When people stop complaining about Simpsons or Samurai Jack ending. Never.
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>>93244008
This is getting out of hand. I approve.
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>>93244465
Bird fags are the WORST
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>>93244455
I unironically like Ludo but I prefer Dennis.
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>>93244630
that would be footfags + jannafags.
but nice try though
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>>93244465
>tfw no cute short girl monster to bully
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>>93244574
Talk about your Fifty Shades of Frost.
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>>93244465
I would rather fuck Pony Head's relatives.
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>>93244428
Jackie being underdeveloped is overstated. For her time and role on the show, yeah, more would have been wanted. But she got more than people give her credit for, she just never had a plotline from her view.
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>>93244665
horseshowfags need not apply
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>>93244254
>stop liking what I don't like!
>stop liking things that threaten my OTP!
Anon you need to accept that people have different tastes and like different things

>inherently harmful
->>>tumblr
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Who here is mentally prepared for Jackie to lose? it's plain obvious at this point and she doesn't have nefcy's blessing either
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>>93244695
Isn't /mlp/ the board where horse fuckers hang out?
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Nefcy sometimes draws herself as Jackie

Is Jackie actually another thinly veiled idealistic self insert?
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>>93244703
I'm prepared for jarco to lose. I'm not prepared for Jackie to fade away after being handed an undeserved shit sandwich.
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>>93244703
Most of my shipping days are spent lamenting over sunk ships.

I'm ready to cry.
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>>93244701
Give me one good reason that Jackie is a character worth investing in. I bet you can't.
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>>93244695
Pony heads are sexier than MLP
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>>93244727
Doesn't matter because Star is her true child and she want her to be happy. Her actual self insert is Starfan after all and she ship Starco.
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I'm genuinely surprised barneyfag wasn't triggered by star vs.
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>>93244777
Why would they?
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>>93239799
I kinda find Ludo's brother, Dennis, to be super hot.
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>>93244802
Pony head, then again star vs never made an mlp reference.
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>>93244829
yall niggas thirsty
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>>93244829
I've never found Ludo's look very appealing, but tall and with wings makes Dennis real attractive. And Dennis being a good brother adds to it.
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>>93244859
>>93244829
>>93244633
i want toffee to rape dennis while possessing ludo
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>>93244895
too far
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>>93244075

BUT the ponies have mean tushies.
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>>93244892
No one likes manlets. This is just a fact.
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>>93244929
>*blocks your path*
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>>93244929
t. Manlet
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It's battle damage
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>>93244974
steamy hot queen cloaca
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>>93244895
>Dennis crying and confused why his brother is violating him
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>>93244574
>didnt marco say he was allergic to cats?
Did he? I thought that was Nefcy's comic of herself and her husband.
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>>93245245
nah i couldve sworn Marco said in an early episode he was allergic to cats and then the comic book also touched on this
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>>93238463
>ttg
I tried watching it but Robin is just impossible to tolerate
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>>93244757
It's true, nobody would give a damn about Jackie if she weren't pretty.
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>>93239477
Does she really though? Is Jackie actually popular or is it just cuckmemes?
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>>93241893
You don't need magic. But imagine you are a great swordsman known and respected by many for your skill. And you happen to have an opportunity to also learn magic

Why the fuck would you not learn magic
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>>93245266
If she weren't pretty, Marco wouldn't have had a superficial crush on her and we wouldn't know how cool she was

Her looks ultimately played a part in learning a bit more about her, even if not much, but they allowed for more concrete reasons to like her
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>>93245382
Neat. Did you do this in photoshop or did you also use flash
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>>93244757
I like her upbeat sporty positivity, ability to listen and connect with people, and ability to jump right into strange new scenarios with relative chill. I like that she sort of subverts the dumb hot california girl trope by actually being interested in history and not becoming the maiden in the need for rescue screeching for help (that's Janna). I think it's interesting that the reason she got interested in Marco is him a. wanting to get to know who she really is, and b. him being persistent and not giving up despite failure and humiliation.

There's a lot of potential to build a great character. I mean why do people like characters or people in general? It's just a gut feeling you get.

Jackie would be a good addition to the cast, there aren't too many chillpots like her and she'd balance out Star and Tom and Ponyhead's explosive reactiveness nicely
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star should bleed
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Will he come back to save Ludo
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>>93246107
inb4 Buff Frog is the good father figure Ludo needs
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Does any of you fine anons know where I could view the guide to mastering dimensions book?

Please help
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>>93244574
Move your friggin hoof you goat!
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>>93244983
Surprised those eggs didn't come out hard boiled
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>>93244465
Discussion about the Evil Star AU sorta make me realize that Ludo's one of those characters who'd be a lot more popular if he was a cute girl
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>>93245454
>we only know she has nice eyes, whereas Marco & numerous other characters get attention for their looks
>Jackie hasn't been shown to have anyone but him into her
>cute guy from skate camp wasn't interested in her
>he's never thought the same of anyone but her
>no celeb crush
Jackie's got her design just to hurt certain viewers more.
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>>93238820
why the fuck would you watch a lizard fight a river
(i don't know who river is)
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>>93246655
>I don't know who river is
What the fuck anon how do you not know? Do you watch the show?
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>>93240642
scp-682 in a suit?
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Janna is cute
Therefor Janna has to suffer
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>>93246836
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>>93246655
You didn't see the episode where Star befriended a sentient river? That one was a classic
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>>93246703
holy fucking shit i just remembered that he is star's dad, sorry didn't watch the show for a while (also i thought that guy was making a death battle suggestion)
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>>93246873
This needs to be canon, we need to push as much suffering as we can into a Disney channel aimed at kids
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>>93246913
okay seriously i didn't watch the show for a while but did she really do that?
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>>93246195
What if this is why he worked for Ludo in the first place?..
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>>93246961
Yes. Check episode 9 of season 1
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>>93246961
yes he was voiced by t-pain it was a classic episode
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>>93245260
Yet another example of Star and Marco being based on Nefcy and her husband?
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>>93246960
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>>93247000
I can just picture it in my head, Ludo bonding with Buff Frog's sons and becoming like an adoptive son to him, and finally finding happiness.
Dennis might go visit him from time to time too
I just hope they don't do the cheapest way possible which is just to have him make peace to his family, I hate when they do that, because it just almost never happens irl
also fuck I need fanart of Buff Frog being a father to Ludo now
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>>93246836
no
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>>93246549
>certain viewers
So you're saying people only have sympathy for her because she's hot
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I want to crucify Star Butterfly.
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>>93247511
I want to make her suffer
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>>93244455
Ludo isn't fuckable or attractive at all but I'm still attracted to Ludo because I feel the need to fix him and protect him, his minuscule size is not helping my protective love interest female savior instincts at all.
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>>93247610
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>>93244567
Wouldn't it be the opposite? Star is an ultra extrovert friendly lil shit, like a puppy. And Jackie is calmer and more subtle about her affections.
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>>93247933
this
>>93247973
yeah that fanart is bullshit
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>>93248014
>yeah fanart is bullshit
Not if it is Janna Banana
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Is janna autistic?
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>>93248081
jannafags don't have basic reading comprehension confirmed
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>>93247973
But those are the canonical animal versions of both that we've seen (in Mathmagic.)
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>>93237629
>>93246416
>>93244974
why is there 0 pics of pornographic nature depicting this character in unfavorable situations.
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>>93248165
I know right?
Glad to see that there are so many Janna friends here
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>>93248165
he removed a keyword, so he's aware.
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>>93248097
yes
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what if star was jabbed through the cheek with a fishing hook and she couldn't get it out and it hurt
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>>93248246
she could cut the line and pull it out

then carefully place a bandaid with a heart on it and proceed to lovingly chokehold her
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>>93240682
>didn't change the sign in the window
>didn't painstakingly match the texture of the sign to make it look like that text was really there

Ok effort. I'll give it a B-, could have been A+ or even S-class memeing.
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>>93240799

Yes. Mabel was a horrid cunt who caused the apocalypse, but got off scott-free because she was bailed out by her superiors and because she's so gosh-darned cute.

Star, on the other hand, frequently gets her comeuppance for being a free spirit, but learns from her mistakes.
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>>93248284
what if it hurt to bad and when someone tugged on it she screamed WAIT STOP NO and cried
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>>93248097
>>93248220
Janna isn't actually autistic. She just had a troubled childhood where she was emotionally neglected by her parents. Marco happened to be nice to her when they were kids, and she has obsessively latched onto him ever since.
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>>93244892
Fuck now that you mention it, Dennis is kind of hot.
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Any lewds of Lady Avarius?
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>>93248368
there ya go anon go nuts
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>>93248750
I want Lewds of Ludo, Dennis and Lady Avarius
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>>93238622
Different studio animated the first one.
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>>93248843
Here's one of Dennis
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Looked more like an eye infection because they were living in squalor.
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>>93248838
that's very good
more people should create art like this
can you draw more of star being hurt physically
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>>93248935
it's a mess but sure why not
I hope it's good
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>>93237903
Adventure time
>leaders always make mistakes
>hero ideals are questioned
>villains are not 100% monsters,many times being good people facing problems (except the Lich, but hes a force over nature more than a person)
>they made a parody of North Korea
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>>93248935
this should happen FOR REAL
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>>93249329
don't worry, i think it's very good
>>93249632
this is also very nice
she's so pretty
i think her blood is purple though
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>Show depics imaginative world made of multiple dimensions where everything is possible
>90% of the community only cares about who is going to suck the effeminate spic boy's dick.

Shipping was a mistake.
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>>93249860
Let's be honest here: imaginative worlds with loads of possibilities are relatively common and easy to do. Getting people to care about characters enough to ship them is actually a lot tougher.

But then I'm someone who only got into the show because of seeing Janna hit on Marco in Mewberty, so my opinion probably means nothing.
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>>93250408

The post was kind of tongue in cheek. There is nothing wrong with shipping, but most people in these thread are pretty autistic about it. Why can't we all stand together in our desire to see Marco get fucked?
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>>93250871
I think the most chill shippers are those whose pairings have little to no chance of being canon, the most autistic ones are always starco, jarco and manna shippers for some reason
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>>93251041
>the most chill shippers are those whose pairings have little to no chance of being canon
if this actually ends up becoming canon, my sides would leave this mortal plane
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please don't, with your puke fingers
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>>93251237
there's no chance anon, we are here to suffer
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>>93251323
theres only one thing left to do:
fuck em all
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>>93251349
an orgy sounds good, but toffee and ludo should be there too to make it complete
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>>93250408
The political intrigue of the Mewnian kigndom's bloodt rise to power is infinitely more compelling than a bunch of highschool crushes, but no, the autistic shitflinging takes precedent. No wonder the AU stuff got popular, at least it was a change of pace from "CUTE AND PERFECT" for the millionth time.

FFS if we don't get an actual conflict between monsters and Mewnians the show is lost
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>>93251447
Ludo isnt for lewd and Toffee is dying by the end of the series at the hands of Starfan13
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>>93251491
I think it's a good sign that the season's actually starting out with ATTACK ON MEWNI TOFFEE BACKSTORY STAR'S GONNA FIGHT stuff.

Unless that's just an excuse to fuck off with no plot afterward until the end of the season, it seems to show shit's get more real than it has before. Same with the focus on Mewni in general; more opportunities to deal with monsters and stuff.

I was fine with Earth for a while but by now the Mewni stuff has surpassed everything going on there.
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>>93237629
It always bothered me too. Are they really portraying their family to be disfunctional and Ludos father to be abusive? Or it suppose to portray that she just lost an eye or something>
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>>93251522
Toffe can't die. He is not only sexy but also immortal.
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>>93251543
That's my biggest fear. This conflict has grown to a point that even having a break of only a few episodes could completely screw the pacing, but it also doesn't quite have the steam to justify the show dramatically switching gears to an entire season focused on one conflict source. Nefcy's backed herself into a wall, and short of a mid-season finale wrapping up the plot points and then leading into a new conflict, I don't see it working out well, to say nothing of the leftover relationship drama mixing with all of this like oil and water.
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>>93251919
There's definitely going to be some sort of conclusion at the end of the movie that establishes the show's new status quo, but the new intro at least seems to imply it won't be anything as definitive as wrapping up the main plot points in that short a time.

If the rest of the season is even vaguely similar to this with having smaller story arcs throughout, rather than the SoL and plot stuff often feeling separate until the end, it could actually work really well. I thought S2 did a good job alternating serious and less serious episodes; the main problem for me was that Star did so little herself relative to the main plot and the lore started to become way more interesting than anything on Earth. Getting huge lore stuff in the first S3 episodes and Star actually doing some monster fighting feels like a great response to that (I almost wonder if this story arc should have been the S2 finale).

It's a concern how they'll handle lighter episodes though. While it obviously won't be fully serialized eventually there will come a point-- like, a damn race war-- when having "filler"/SoL stuff might seem inappropriate. The pre-finale episodes of S2 felt like that a little, but at least they had the excuse then of Star etc. being unaware of what was happening on the villain side of things.

I'm more worried about the fans calling hack re: relationship drama than the drama itself, if it's not dealt with quickly enough for them. Starting to feel like they might have Marco separated from Jackie for a bit this season, both to delay the inevitable and not focus on relationship stuff too much.

Overall I do think the season's starting out strong concept-wise and so I hope it can actually live up to its potential. We're finally getting to the point where all the previous seasons' mystery/setup is reaching actual payoff and I hope they can do it right.
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The show started with some serious conflict issues but it got better, so I really can't guess if they're going to fuck up or not.
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>>93243740
Dude you draw whatever the hell you want. If you don't feel like colouring your stuff in you don't have to.
Besides, honestly, your sketches are fucking ace and it's good to have a dedicated Hekartist.
I can't help but wonder how things would work out if all the drawanons were dedicated on their characters.
Would make for some interesting fanart and/or requests, I'm sure.
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>>93252423
I guess I'm just afraid of this show pulling a Danny Phantom and hopping right back to a status quo after showing that it's evolved far beyond it. I don't know if the Toffee plot can be resolved in only 4 episodes while being satisfying, but I might be overthinking it.

desu I just want to get away from the relationship drama and back to the fun sense of discovery and danger that both Toffee and Star as characters provided during Season 2's high points.
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>>93253073
I'm hoping it won't do that going by how this season's been hyped up a bit by the crew; Marco on Mewni will at least be a "status quo" thing but who knows where they'll go from there. I try to watch this show from a pretty neutral perspective, but since they did well with the second season and it's mostly the same people on the crew now, I have more confidence in its direction than I did in between 1 and 2.

I'm expecting the Toffee plot to not be resolved so much as put on hold for a bit. Which could still be awkward but at least allows more time for development in the future.

Expecting/hoping the relationship stuff will be looked back on as mostly a feature of 2. They've done about as much as they can with it on Star's side.
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>>93253215
>They've done about as much as they can with it on Star's side
Yeah, of course
But Marco still exists
(and if there's ample time, Jackie still exists too)

I hope the relationship stuff takes a backseat but it can't go away entirely
>>
Name up to 5 characters that deserve their own episode from their perspective.
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>>93253289
Toffee
Moon
Ludo
Glossaryck
Eclipsa
>>
I almost feel like I'm not allowed to say this here but I don't give a shit who fucks who. I watch the show for pretty much every other plotline.
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>>93253289
>Janna
>Jackie
>Tom
>Toffee
>Moon
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>>93253289
Toffee
Eclipsa
Jackie
Lekmeht
Loffee
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>>93253289
Ferguson
Toffee
Ludo
Moon
Jackie
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>>93253215
You might have a point. Rushing to put the bigger conflicts up front might just be as jarring as ignoring them.

>>93253314
PREACH
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>>93253257
I don't see that many episodes about Marco's relationship happening. If there were only really ~3 episodes when they're together, 1 or 2 as they decide to break up or separate isn't too ridiculous.

Once the Jackie stuff is settled in some way I can see the question of Marco's feelings for Star and vice versa being put in the background this season as they fall into a more platonic routine. Some hints/tension might be there but the actual plot/episode stuff would take priority.

I would like to see them do stuff with Jackie but if she really does exist mainly for relationship stuff better not to overdo it.
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>>93253289
>Jackie
>Janna
>Moon (even though she sorta got parts of a few)
>Toffee
>Glossaryck (even though he got most of one)
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>>93253289
All of them, especially the dull and sorta one-note characters like Janna, Kelly and Jackie. I'm not even being sarcastic, it worked really well with Buff Frog and Ludo, who weren't very interesting at all early on.
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>>93253289
whoever the fuck runs the company pumping out that princess marco merchandise
>>
I love Jackie, I've been drawing nothing but her for days, but I hope they don't include her much next season just because I'm sick of Jackiecucks and their butthurt will be amazing.
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>>93253403
That's more so what I was talking about. What I'm saying is if Star gets all this focus on her feelings, all parties should have at least some level of consideration for their feelings, otherwise it just seems like the scale is tipped heavily in Star's favor.

At the very least we need to see Marco's developing feelings. Ideally we should also see how this plays out with Jackie.
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>>93253447
>I've been drawing nothing but her for days
Post proof
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>>93253314
I'm fine with it when it happens and it can be handled well (Bon Bon is a fucking good episode), but it's not what I watch the show for or actually care about on a level beyond "yeah, that happened."

It's damn sure not what I want to post about all the time.
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>>93253447
Personally, I'm a Jackiefag that was pretty damn pissed at first, but her exclusion from the intro might actually be a blessing.

If she shows up, her inclusion won't be seen as arbitrary, and she likely won't overstay her welcome. Her appearances will probably have purpose like in season 2, but unlike season 2, since she is presumably isolated from the rest, there may actually be some focus on her perspective. Obviously not much, it isn't her show, but I'd bank on like 1 or 2 episodes like that.

And if there's anything that Ludo and Buff Frog have showed us, that's all you really need to do wonders for your character.
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>>93253289
Toffee
Jackie
Tom
Moon
Ludo
Glossaryck

Eclipsa

More than 5, I know
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>>93253457
Slightly more focus on Star doesn't bother me when it feels like the show's only just started to move away from "well arguably Star isn't even the main character."

But we will see Marco's feelings. I just see his feelings toward Star and what he does about Jackie being two separate issues that will be handled at different points, one way earlier than the other.
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Did I miss a leak or has my DVR been fucking up? Where is all this stuff coming from?
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>>93253403
>Once the Jackie stuff is settled in some way I can see the question of Marco's feelings for Star and vice versa being put in the background this season as they fall into a more platonic routine.

Mmmph, that feels too much like just jumping back to the "staircase plan" to me: them just doing what they would have done if Star hadn't confessed. That confession seems like too big a moment to just walk back on, especially as they just DID try to paper over another big moment (Song Day.) It's an event that ought to have consequences, and hopefully not just destructive consequences like "getting rid of Marco's relationship with Jackie;" should move things forward, not nowhere or backward.
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>>93253447
>following a character because you want to spark animosity within the fanbase

Take your (You) and get the fuck out
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>>93253584
In this case I think them being on Mewni together as the situation there worsens would be enough of a difference from the plan to just not do anything on Earth all summer together (actually I can't remember if it was Marco or Jackie who said that). It wouldn't so much be ignoring their feelings as it'd be the fact that their potential romantic feelings are no longer their main priority anymore-- Star might have to train more, at times their lives could be at risk, etc.

Another example of putting things on hold I guess. Though it seems like there could be enough of a difference in situation here that their feelings could be handled in a different way from the fairly typical Earth drama stuff last season.
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>>93253469
I'm really critical of my art skills but maybe I'll get the courage to someday, anon

>>93253502
I really just wish people would stop making her so overrated. I want her to be more of a character just as much as the Jackiefags, and have more depth that 'Marco's love interest '. She has lots of potential, but they may do nothing with that, and it's just how it is. I'm just sick of all the whining all the way when we don't know what's going to happen. People like >>93253588
are ridiculous with their Jackie white knighting.
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>>93253733
Make today that someday!
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>>93253733
The overrated sentiment comes from the perceived unfairness of the situation, considering the fair amount of buildup she got (it's not like she went from nothing to Marco's girlfriend in one episode). Especially since there have been small glimpses of what she is capable of. Despite that, Janna is still in the intro. Even though one could argue it's because she's a friend of Star, it still makes the Jackie exclusion all the more obvious.

That coupled with the celebratory attitude of a lot of the fanbase means that many that want to see her grow in some capacity get a bit defensive.
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>>93253733
I'm not whiteknighting, I'm just tired of people derailing threads into anons shitflinging over a single character. It's happened for the last 3 threads and it's disgusting.

>>93253819
Also this
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>>93251637
I think it's obvious they're dysfunctional and abusive. Lady Avarius dropped her baby, Lord Brudo's parenting approach was to bully and neglect a disabled child (Ludo being a wingless runt. Ludo is flightless and underveloped, therefore I think he counts as disabled? I don't know) into being tougher.
>>
>>93253289
Toffee
Jackie
Moon
Omnitraxus Prime
The Bearded Werewolf Birthday Guy
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>Marco's first appearance in Season 3 will be saving Star's life from a magic blast while making this exact pose

Mark my words
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>>93254163
>guitar riffs in background
>it's just his phone going off
>he has to awkwardly answer it
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>>93254269
he replaced the space unicorn ringtone???? no way anon!
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>>93254460
Best ring tone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17o1OlroNSE
>>
What popular series, either /co/ or non-/co/, do you think Star Vs could do good parodies of? Menwian society opens up a lot of possibilities for references to our cultures, and I'm dead certain we'll get an episode about a Mewnian sport at some point.
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>>93254658
>Mewnian sport at some point
We already had one
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>>93254163
>Mark my words
>Mark
>Marco

Ohhh youuu...
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>>93254062
well fuck anon, this makes me so sad
poor lil guy
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>>93238741
I thought that he was a complete insane guy that create perfect facades like a polite businessman, that would make him a disturbing and fresh villain for a cartoon but he looks still pretty polite in the last episodes.
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>>93255089
what? I meant Ludo
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>>93237629
Hubby was wearing a wife beater shirt....and looked the part.
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>>93255174
Its most likely she got hit with the debris of her falling shack that they call a home.
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>>93237629
>>93255455
I'd hit it.
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>>93238741
I just finished watching all of Star Vs. for the first time less than three minutes ago and I completely agree with you.
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>>93255547
You cannot, Princess Avarius isnt for lewd.
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>>93255610
>50 kids
>Isn't for lewd

Yeah maybe not anymore
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>>93255547
Lord Avarius pls go.
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>>93255655
making kids isnt lewd, its so one of them can start a race war and the other usurp other kingdoms
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>>93237656
What about looney tunes?
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>>93254081
> "Bearded Werewolf Birthday Guy"
Kek. But for simplicity's sake, I've taken to calling him Anton, after Anton Sokolov.
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>>93248192
Well, some people are in to chicks with dicks. I don't judge. Freaks
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>>93256493
Futas are 300% better than Janna.
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>>93256627
Too bad there's a lot more Jannas in the world than futas
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>>93256659
Well lets see here actually
Janna is a fictional being, a cartoon is you will, and has a fair amount of art and comics about her
Futas, ficitonal beings, have literally hundreds to thousands of doujins, dvds, figurines and such about themselves
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>>93255600
nice
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>>93256627
That's sick, you disgust me.

>>93256659
Janna is a Filipino ladyboy, so you're agreeing with him.
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>>93256720
>That's sick
fuck you
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Would Janna cuddle Marco in his sleep?
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>season 3 is gonna get rid of toffee at the beginning
>real baddie is gonna be armless eclipsa

I CAN ALREADY SMELL IT
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>>93237629
>>93238062
>>93244974
>>93246416
>>93255455
>>93255610
>>93255743
>when there's so little birb mom in the birb mom thread

I need more MORE!
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>>93257077
>armless
its just her glove anon.
shes not getting a Bionic Arm
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>>93256922
yes she probably does it every night.
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>>93257077
Screw Moon, I wanna know Toffee and Eclipsa's history

i need to see them on screen together
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>>93257077
Or she has both arms and has the one out of the glove extended, like she shook someone's hand.
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>>93257854
>like she shook someone's hand.

oh shiiiiiiit
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>>93257875
>it was in front of us the whole fucking time
Deal with Eclipsa confirmed
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