LOL

looks more like MJ in the 2nd panel

Someone's pretty fucking jelly.

>>93228502
>Bunson is getting dumped on Nicktoons
>"jelly"

Okay

Why would Hartman go for the Teletoons look?

I used to think this dude was too bitter until I actually began to work with execs in the animation industry.

Bitter and Jaded artist are the best kind of artists.

>>93228699

It's cheaper

>>93228733
Any stories, anon? I've been wanting to get into the industry too

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>>93227640
based David Gemmill

>>93229458
Is he still blacklisted from the biz

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>>93229458
>tfw crusty old faggots like this still haven't pulled the trigger

>>93229458
>generic reused animated character from the 1950-1960s complaining about a generic reused animated character from the 90s-00s

Is this just "muh generation" or done in irony?

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>>93229971
Remarkably, no. Last I heard, he's storyboarding on the Houghton brothers' upcoming Disney XD cartoon, Country Club.

The guy is not discreet.

>>93230365
Has this dude heard of quack pack?

>>93230398
I think he's partly making fun of that too.

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>>93229458
>boring supermarket brand Sylvester vs boring... reference to... something something CalArts

>>93230813
>t. triggered youngfag

>>93230813
>well drawn generic character vs badly drawn "unique" character

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>>93229458
>implying that all the old theatrical Cartoons were targeted directly at kids
Why do people still think this

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>>93231023
>one of the characters Is drawn better so they must be the winner of the argument

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>>93229458
For anyone wondering, the new show it's referencing is 'summer camp island'

>>93231147
>I AM SILLY
I don't have it, someone else post it

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>>93231273
All I got is this

>>93228699
Because Nick is always behind on current trends.
>Sanjay and Craig is their Regular Show
>Pinky Malinky is their Gumball
>TMNT is their Teen Titans

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>>93231307
Here's another version

>>93231214

Oh okay. I agree with that picture now.

>>93231147
Actually yeah, since the argument is about drawing skills.

>>93231348
I thought it was about character design?

>>93230365
>making fun of Disney while being on the payroll of their network

Gotta admit, takes balls. Especially since that new DuckTales is the only cartoon Disney XD cares about right now.

>>93231411
As long as he ain't making fun of the cartoon he's working on.
Speaking of which, anyone got screenshots from that?

>>93231360
Character design and drawing skills are closely related. For one being a better artist means you can draw more unique shapes that make up a character. Bengus/CRMK is a good example.

>>93231462
Well, with a cartoon you often have people different from the animators creating the character design.

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>>93231147
>>93231307
>>93231333
Alternately...

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>>93231566
Man, I love Ms paint argument comics

>>93227640
Didn't read at first, didn't even reach the last panel but just with the thumbnail I recognized it was Hartman wtf?

>>93231333
>>93231307
>>93231566
>getting so mad that someone draws this and thinks it'll help his shitty opinion if he posts it after he gets BTFO

>>93231214
Why waste a decent title on something so shitty looking?

>>93228614
The June premieres for that show are still on Nickelodeon. Not sure it matters anyway, Hartman has made out like a fat rat in the industry and pretty much just makes low-effort shit for fun now while people like Gemmill and John K are still wagecucks who struggle to put food on their tables despite all the "effort" they put out copying Bob Clampett. Can't beat that good ol American Christian conservative work ethic.

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>>93230365
I guess I have bad taste because I love cartoons with very angular styles

See also
>Dexter's Lab
>Samurai Jack
>Star Wars Clone Wars
>Star Wars The Clone Wars
>Tron Uprising

>>93232347
>copying Bob Clampett.
And I don't get why ""cartoonists"" keep "drawing" (Read: churns out poorly drawn and mangled caricatures of) this guy's style. It seems like ACTUAL observation and caricaturization of reality is too hard a thing for most of these people to do nowadays. In other words, Miyazaki was right.

>>93232357
Same here my dude

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>>93229458
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post

>>93230365
This made me spit out my cereal.

>>93233020
David hates John K

>>93233977
How do you know?

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>>93227640

>>93234269
>the children are NEVER WRONG

>>93231439
seconding this

>>93234103
http://neat-stuff-blog.blogspot.ca/2009/06/captain-quantum.html

ctrl + f "david"

>>93235368
>/co/

>>93235244
>I'm too ascended to enjoy fantasy movies! Cab drivers are subhuman garbage! Ha ha ha ha!

>>93229458
I wanna see more of this David

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>>93235602

>>93235244
Christ man, he was just asking if you saw the dark knight

>>93235244
This is ironic right?

>>93230365
>Angular style
>Bad
this guy's taste is terrible

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>>93236116

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>>93231439
Country Club is gonna be the cutest fuckin' thing

>>93235925
But I actually laughed at this one

>>93235816
Wilson is supposed to be a socially dysfunctional asshole, if that's what you mean. He's supposed to be a character is that you'll usually disagree with, but you'll also see where he's coming from.

>>93232357
New DuckTales looks great, dude's just bitter. What he and other industry complainers like John K don't seem to understand is that old animation was just as beholden to shitty artistic trends, and that things that fall within those trends can be great or horrible and should be judged on individual merit. Fuck Hartman tho
>>93231214
I-it's cute...

>>93234269
>>93234350
>>the children are NEVER WRONG

Fucking THIS. Fucking EXACTLY this. Ever since someone memed this stupid fucking Simpsons line into existence, we've had to have it rubbed in our fucking face every time we dare point out that this fad... yeah, this fad right here? It's FUCKING RETARDED.

Well, guess what? The children are wrong ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Don't believe me? Watch this and tell me the children were right:

https://youtu.be/WlRV6yxZUSQ

>>93236194
Yeah, and his art isn't all that great either.

From what I've seen the dude is either always spilling jelly over his "style" not being popular, or having a stroke that some people are being genuine and not ironic or cynical.

Kinda curious to see his work on Country Club, though.

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>>93235602

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>>93236557
>thinks NuTales doesn't look like trash
>thinks Tumblr Camp Island looks cute

You certainly have taste I can trust

>>93236676
Donald takes no shit.

>>93236730
>Yeah, and his art isn't all that great either.
He animated half of the intro for Wander Over Yonder.

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>>93230365
>"Carl Barks? Never heard of him."
>New show has more references to the comics than the old one did.

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>>93236784

>Literally everything that doesn't adhere to my personal taste is reddit

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>>93231439
>>93236730
There aren't any screenshots yet (we'll be lucky if we even see an animatic at SDCC), but here are some of Gemmill's Cricket Green drawings.

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>>93235925

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>>93236676
ruthless

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Dude seems to be a fan of Billy Dilley, though

>>93236828
the woy intro really wasnt that well animated overall honestly

i think its probably the worst part of the show all in all, from the music down to the rapidly changing environments and off-animation

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>>93236676
Holy tits

>>93236608
What Children?

>>93236828
By "his art" I meant his original drawings with his own designs. In those he only posts watered down Spumco characters (goofy animal, brodude, and Jonh. K's waifu)

The Wander intro is fucking great, but he worked off a model sheet and people supervised, gave him feedback, etc.

>>93236834
>thinks shallow references to Carl Barks paintings that don't even copy them correctly mean anything

You're like those people who think Zack Snyder actually likes comic books

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>>93227640

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>>93237016
I'd take that over the shit we get from TV animation today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX0pvx0HpwQ

>>93227640
Has Hartman commented on the Emberfag who shot up that grocery store?

>>93236784
>calls something tumblr
>posts reddit
???

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>>93237070
>having to watch calarts shit and teletoon tumor faces everyday
What a childhood

>>93237176
Tumblreddit.

>>93236872
Forget personal taste, let's talk about art standards. Yours are low.

>>93237133
I bet you enjoyed Ren and Stimp Adult Party Cartoon too.

>>93237205

Literally Cartoon Network leftovers

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>>93235368
Most relatable character in history

>>93236995
>>93236951
>>93236676
>>93236480
>>93235925
>>93235770
>>93237165
>>93237239
>buttmad autist tries to spam thread but keeps bumping it, thus making it look like it has a lot of activity and attracting more posters
Good jerb

>>93233977

John K's guest animation for Simpson's is so over animated I believe he has some kind of disorder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dShsDp7CSv4

Look at this shit.

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>>93237243
I liked Ren Seeks Help (for having the best animation) and Life Sucks (for having the best writing). I also liked that perverted duck for giving us this great gif.

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>>93237308
the goddamn george liquor program looked better than this

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>>93235602
jesus fucking

>>93237383

It's satire. The person who makes the comics is a bro.

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>>93237308

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hahahaha

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>>93237308

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>>93237275
what

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Sigh.

>>93237580
Is this from his tumblr? I don't remember seeing it there before.

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>>93237239

>>93237308
The disorder is his daddy's issues

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>>93227640

>>93237614
they were on his tumblr. he deletes stuff a lot

>>93237701
Genuinely agree.
Guess I better go make a tumblr blig now.
What's a good username, rainbowtoonfag420?

>>93236608
Kids aren't never wrong or right, since just like us they have different taste each one to other

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>>93237641

>>93237275
It was a LOL thread from the start, idiot

>>93237580
Futa?

>>93236468
>you'll also see where he's coming from.

You mean his ass?

>>93237901
Looks like it.

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>>93237791

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>>93236676
> Let 'er go!
Wait, did he WANT Donald to dump the anchor?

>>93237612
It really is sad how accurate this is

>>93231214
HAHAHA

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>>93227640
You know I distinctly remember a person coming into FOP threads all the time making corny jokes about how the stylized look of things like Crocker's ear look like a "tumor growing out of his neck" (thats the joke.jpg). I'm wondering if it was David lurking among us. Not sure why all these crotchety old cartoonists like Kricfalusi and Gemmill throw stones at Hartman anyway, he made a single hit cartoon, a bunch of middling to terrible ones, and just sort of exists to make a living in the industry without much effort. Not exactly a target that's going to get you much credit by tearing down. Butch seems like too much of a nice guy to ever have done anything to piss them off in person. I'm guessing they just don't like him being a Trump supporter. Jhonen Vasquez was the same way, mouthed off a lot about Hartman being a Nick toadie, then recently Hartman made a video with a bunch of the other Nickelodeon cartoon creators including Jhonen and banter the fuck out of him, Jhonen looked like a beta repressing the urge to shoot up the school in it. Alex Hirsch in that game changers panel too kept looking away whenever big balls Butch made eye contact with him. Liberals are all talk from a mile away but soft as baby shit in real life.

>david gemmill said...
>richard willaims. the dude tortures himself. who the #$%^* would want to animate that &*#%@? at least Anime has some sort of redeeming quality, like maybe the robot sequences and action scenes end up looking cool or entertaining..but all of richard william's $&%@# is always just painful to watch...and not entertaining. Only hardcore animation fans *%&^ off to the technical expertise that was involved to make it (not creative expertise though).I feel sorry for the people that had to inbetween. And he had the audacity to animate on ONES. on ONES.
Animate this *^&%$* design on ONES.You can look at scribner, and freddie moore and see pictures of them smiling, or you can look at pictures of Dick williams who looks very depressed and methodical.Animating cartoons is supposed to be fun, work, but fun. not torture.

Is he right, /co/?
Source:
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2008/12/appeal-in-ugliness-basil-wolverton.html

>>93238334
>every hobby board thread

>>93235710
why i find hot the girls this guy draw ?
is a female body so is a girls isnt ??

>>93231214

come on /co/, become an indie comic artist so cartoon network hires you to make a cartoon with an artstyle that only appeals to you.

>>93238637
>then recently Hartman made a video with a bunch of the other Nickelodeon cartoon creators

I've must of missed this. Where can I watch it?

>>93237612
ironic cause he worked on a spongebob episode

>>93231214
I think someone shared some new style sheets for that show and It looked way better

>>93238301
I'm guessing he wanted him to toss it off one of the other sides of the dock, so when it fell, it'd drag him back up

>>93235244
I do not enjoy things so no one else should. I'm too sophisticated.

>>93239214
I think it was one of the last year's Comiccon videos on Hartman's youtube.

>>93238960
Considering Williams spent 31 years of his life working to create The Greatest Animated Movie Ever, only to have it not work out for him, I think gemmill is yelling at clouds.

>>93237242
Rude.

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>>93235244
>pathetic suicide case develops defense mechanism that causes him to believe In his own superiority so he can continie walloeing in his incompetence vs having to kill himself
hehe that was pretty good! ahehehehe

>>93237456
The looney tunes show was Seinfeld, not family guy.

>>93239311
Post them then.

>>93237456
>family guy
>not seinfeld
it's amazing that this guy is always wrong.

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>>93238334
>pawsed

>>93229458
Is that some sort of trunk, or does it have a penis dangling from its nose?

>>93240380
Seconded.

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>>93237580
I have the most confused boner right now

>>93235925

>deved a somewhat successful game
>incidentally has one of the most valued emoticons on steam
>decided fuck that
>started making smut on his other site
>now has a patreon for lighter chains

Badspot has been a fucking ride

>>93237580
>oh my god, all wheel drive

wdhmbt

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>>93235602
Foxdad is a great comic, though

>>93241149
no it's an absolutely mediocre comic
completely ignoring the furry aspect, 90% of the comics are just old puns

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>>93241185

>completely ignoring the furry aspect, 90% of the comics are just old puns

Delivered with the comic timing of a dead eyed, life sized, sex freak puppet suit, and an honest self-awareness.

>>93240380
>>93240979

See:

>>93237814
>>93234794

>>93241263
dying

>>93237505
Pen and Hirsch?

>>93241342
Danke schoen.

>>93237701
Hah! Gayyyy!

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>>93227640

>>93241652
yep

>>93242440
>Connie dressed like a whore

beautiful

>>93230365
>DAS RITE

>>93231214
this isn kind of adorable,
but what animal is this?

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>>93242440

>>93235602
>>93241149
>>93241263
But why is the son Danny Phantom?

>>93235244
HAVE YOU SEEN THE FUCKING MOVIE OR HAVE YOU NOT SEN THE FUCKING MOVIE,BOZO ?

>>93242521
DAS RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE!

>>93235925
"Accidentally"
HE TRIPPED ON A ROCK OK

>>93237133
AHAHAHAAHAHA
ITS FUNNY BECAUSE HE WANT TO FUCK
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAH

>>93242270
Has SIR done one of these for 2017?

>>93240351
>>93240548
I think he's making fun of the latest Scooby Doo installment by using another example. It's not a jab at The Looney Tunes Show.

>>93228699
Hartman made the look

>>93243130
>by using another example.
>"Looney Tunes are back and better than ever"
...yeah I think he's definitely shitting on LTS.

>>93230365
You could make the EXACT same fucking argument about the first Duck Tales, making his complaint about a reboot fucking astounding. You think Barks created fucking launchpad McQuack? Duckworth? Webby?

I swear to god this cuck hasn't read a single Barks comic, not to mention Don Rosa, Marco Rota, etc.

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>>93230344
>Talking shit about cigarettes.
kys

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Gemmill has the exact same problem John K has. He can draw, but he's almost never funny.

Almost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBimiqL7MDs

>>93230365
It seems like the new show wants to take more from Barks than the original Ducktales, though. Not saying it looks above "meh," but you can't really say they're ignoring their sauce. Also Quackpack.

And biting the hand that feeds you seems kinda shitty.

>>93235244
>Total stranger asks you an ice breaker
>Immediately begin shitting on him and trying to establish that you're a special snowflake

I hate people like that.

>>93229458
>imitate JohnK
>wow modern cartoons are not original and ugly!
THE
IRONY

>>93231214
I fucking knew this looked familiar. I watched this animation years ago and sure enough, it's the same person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVo3uCJoXRI

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That's a lot of cushion for the pushin'

>>93242538
fuccboi

>>93235925
kek

>>93235368
Brad seems like a cool guy.

>>93242538
I want to say it looks like a tapir more than an elephant, but it's an elephant.

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>>93240351
>>93240548
>>93243616
He already shat on The Looney Tunes Show a while ago

>>93227640

>sure is fuck

>>93229458
I think both designs are fine, even if they were in the same cartoon. This would make a pretty great idea for a cartoon too. I'll give credit to David though, he drew that type of character better than the original source material.

>>93235482
Well, he was elected on the premise that he would personally punch crime in the face

>>93242891
The dad wears a fursuit, the mother is a weeaboo. The girl is a normie, so I guess the kid is a cartoons guy

>>93244756
I was watching the Looney Tunes Golden Collection a few weeks ago, and it was surprising to see how good their scripts are - they use quite sophisticated language, especially compared to modern cartoons.

>>93237242
>Everything that's not approved by muh sekrit anime club is shit
Kys

>>93237176
Everything he dont like is NuTumblredditBuzzwords

>>93243040
Yeah. He does them at the beginning of each year, shortly after NYE

>>93237701

A faggot probably drew this

>>93242270
Stupid sexy Mettaton.

>>93245395
>Undyne gets a doujin
>Mettaton doesn't have one
It's not fair

>>93229458
I understand the point that old characters had more expressive designs but i honestly think that animated shows nowadays have good design for characters.
People keep forgetting that "the good old days" of animation had a bunch of characters who looked exactly the same. And all that calarts argument aside,i dont think Lincoln loud looks like Steven,or steven looks like gumball,or gumball looks like clarence.
Thats not to say there arent ugly cartoon designs too,but theres more good than bad.
WOY is a great example of how those old type of characters can still shine in modern times.

>>93245501
There's plenty of cuntboy doujins of him

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>>93245535
Oh where has she been for this recent dry spell

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>>93235244

>>93229458
>>93231214
Yeah, I'm with him on that issue.

>>93244781
I actually didn't notice that. Good eye.

>>93237580
Oh hey, they got a peegina just like the baby from Alien Resurrection.

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>>93246030
that's spike from my little pony

he just had sex with derpy

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>>93244756

>>93244014
Fucking adorable.

>>93237383
Can anyone tell me where this is from? It looks like it would be rad as fuck.

>>93246683
the music video for "do the evolution" by pearl jam

>>93243040
Just in case you didn't know, he got officially hired by reanimating the Rick and Morty Youtube short.
If I'm mistaken, please correct me.

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>>93242270
>jesus on the cross

holy shit my sides

>>93237901
>>93238240
Why is no one questioning how they're all in the same pic?

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>>93242392
OBTUSE

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>>93247055
Why is no one questioning how >>93237580 hasn't been deleted by the mods yet?

I'm not complainin', though

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>>93239198
Am I having a stroke

>>93244925
Looney Tunes was made for adults at first, due to the violence and themes displayed. Advanced language is part of that overall theme.

>>93247178
Report it.

>>93236608
>old man yells at cloud

>>93246867
That is not what I was expecting. Song is average at best, the animation is fucking exquisite.

So basically, this guy works for Disney and hates every other show on air right now.
Is he what HDD wants to be when he grows up?

>>93236608
>children still watching the Simpsons
Also
>Thinking that these celebrity episodes aren't just Fox trying to do something to get views

>>93248002
I think HDD would be happy with any job at this point

>>93237580
How does peeing work?

>>93248251
Is that wordswordswordswordswords guy?

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>>93242496
That comic actually made it into an official Garfield movie

>>93248564
Kek

>>93237308
>John K basically worships all American animation before 1970
>Knew how to make Spumco versions of Yogi Bear and the Jetsons; some of which could have literally worked as real episodes
>Think he'd make a Simpsons couch gag look like vaguely off-model Flintstones or just do a regular grossout joke
>Makes a Simpsons couch gag a disgusting mess of squiggles and ugly colours

>>93248798
>>93248637
NEGROS

>>93248798
oh god, the poor fucking corpse of sinfest
I hope ishida is getting some really good poon from his sjw gf

>>93249045
>if you don't give panhandlers money then you're evil!!!!

>>93238637
I'm sure it has less to do with bullshit politcal leanings and more to do with the fact that Butch has been in the business for so fucking long that pissing him off to his face will probably get you blacklisted. Not to mention that, if this was at a ComicCon, they're kinda paid to NOT cause on stage drama.

>>93235244
I doubt he'd be able to watch any movie with his head so far up his ass.

>>93230365
>the art is angular because it's easier for a broad team to animate being that animation isn't what it was 50 years ago.

Boo fucking hoo

>>93249000
Good porn comic.

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>>93231214
Why do they look like characters out of Beavis and Butthead?

>>93249320
Undertale or not, I did laugh after I totally did the syllable counting he does in the 4th panel

>>93242496
>>93248589
no fucking way

>>93239198
>Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

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>>93248487
Ye.

>>93244756
At least he was complaining about it not looking like it could have stylized animation and not the Chris-chan levels of autistic wailing about him being mauve instead of grey like /co/ did.

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>>93236676

>>93249517
I don't get what this is trying to say.

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>>93249584

>>93235244
Ha ha this comic triggers /co/ harder than anything I've ever seen

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>>93249517
Still pissed off that he literally wrote what could be a very interesting SF novel as the build-up for a "Can I can a hug AND a blow-job" punchline.

>>93249613
>>93249584
No seriously, is it trying to say that assholes don't care about the comparative advantages of renting vs. owning? Or that assholes are the same whether you rent or own? Because I don't see the logic behind either.

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>>93249693
THE WORDS MUST FLOW

>>93248798
>turns statue of Lincoln into Tubman
>the guy who freed the slaves vs. the gal who exported them
Really makes you think.

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>>93249711
He is giving tips for good living for non assholes who either rent or are owners. His implication is that assholes do not care about their fellow man no matter whether they rent or are house owners.

>>93248798
But
>There are numerous black fashion models on billboards
>Columbia actually IS Native American
>There's a whole universe in DC dedicated to a world of all black superheroes and equality
>HAVING HARRIET TUBMAN SIT IN A CHAIR WITH FASCES ON IT ISN'T EXACTLY THE POINT YOU'RE WANTING TO MAKE

Then again, isn't the guy who makes Sinfest either an ultraweeb or a second generation Japanese guy?

>>93249098
post more fag

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>>93249786
I think the guy running away might actually be a self-portrait.

>>93249762
But they're not tips for living, they're comparative advantages and disadvantages. The fact that you don't have to get a mortgage for an apartment doesn't stop being true if you're an asshole.

>>93249693
Holy fucking shit dude, just write short stories or novels. That is absolutely unreadable and ugly.

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>>93249810
Whoops, that's actually an edit someone made. Sorry for that mishap.

>>93249076
>Live in a town with a bunch of panhandlers
>It's a mix of college kids making a quick buck, a few homeless people, and a bunch of vets who probably voted for the complete abolishment of the very services that would have kept them in good health
>Literally can't trust if its someone who needs it or some asshole taking advantage of charity
>Have defaulted to snubbing them, even though it bugs me morally

Meanwhile the literal mile long Mega-Church that keeps adding facilities to its main complex does fucking nothing for the actual homeless but makes a big show of letting them come inside on Sundays and Wednesdays during the dead of winter.

>>93230365
Jesus, this is just picky and petty.

>>93249179
Angular designs are not easier to animate. You have to be even more precise with three-dimensional form because if you fuck it up, even non-artists will be able to tell. Try animating a cube moving with consistent perspective and proportions and you'll see how hard it is. It's why beginners animate bouncing balls and flour sacks.

It's why new DuckTales looks stiff and retarded.

>>93249177
Hasn't it been conclusively proven that the whole NuGhostbusters controversy was 100% drummed up by marketing?

>>93231214
to be honest, its bad art, but its also kinda cute looking. I'm 200% triggered by the back of the kid's head on the left, though. Is it that hard to sketch out a circle so it doesn't look like the character's head is collapsing in on itself?

>>93249892
Reminds me of Judas Priest's cover of Diamonds and Rust.

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>>93249807

>>93233977
does David hate everyone

>>93249639
?
But the whole point of Wilson is that the main character is an insufferable cunt.

>>93232357
>
>Afropuffs Claire

HOLD EVERYTHING

>>93235925
KATAMARI HITLER

>>93249320
Sonnuvabitch!

>>93249976
Go on

>>93249921
What the fuck is this even suppose to be implying?

>>93231323
>Pinky Malinky is their Gumball
I thought that was Harvey Beaks?

>>93250108
https://exhentai.org/g/959172/301952db65/

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>>93250143
Nothing. It's just his opinions on certain bands with you having to guess the band.

>>93249833
WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS

>>93238243
doesn't really work because in literally the first episode the moving eyes behind the artwork was a red herring.

>>93250270
>If you're too nasty they'll hate you
>But at least they'll never make fun of you
People get mocked for being edgelords constantly.

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>>93250168
Not even /mu/ is THAT pretentious.

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>>93250357
I should have added that this is very, very old. More than ten years I think? Making fun of edge wasn't that a big a thing at that point. Or at least not in the form as we know it now.

>>93249320
I don't get it.