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>>93226886
Where is she /swco/?

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She was too good for this world

>>93226910
In the Force

In case anyone was looking forwards to it, I'm sorry to say that this week's Lost Stars isn't a new chapter but instead a small collection of character art. I'll see y'all in two weeks for the next chapter. There's still a tiny amount of text that could be translated so I'll just get that and do the usual /a/ posting

>>93226886
Has there ever been a Kath Soucie character that has died before, let alone murdered as a political ploy?

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Now that Trevorrow has Tranked, who should Kennedy hire to direct Episode IX?

>>93227116
George

>>93227116
Filoni.

>>93226923
Wait she was at the back of the craft when it explodes but the main body is still intact? we see no dead body? I feel that she is not dead.

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>>93227116

>>93227116
What happened?

>>93227209
You feel denial.

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For some reason I imagine Sloane voiced by CNN's Isha Sesay and my boner undergoes exponential growth

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>>93227231
I don't know who that is

>>93227209
>Wait she was at the back of the craft when it explodes but the main body is still intact?
She's under the smoldering pile of rubble in the back right around where the explosion came from

>we see no dead body? I feel that she is not dead.
You're just in denial

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>>93227231
For some reason I imagine Revan's inevitable onscreen portrayal being performed by Diamond and Silk (simultaneously)

>>93227221
His latest movie is a laughing stock with RT rating lower than Batman v Superman.

>>93227229
>>93227253
NO! SHE WAS ALIVE! I FELT IT!

>>93227229
no dead body

>>93227263
>Revan's inevitable onscreen portrayal

She's not coming back, accept it.

>>93227273
Isn't it indie shit? Not like you can compare that to something like Star Wars.

>>93227285
Can't show a body blown to pieces on Disney XD.

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>ywn be a starfighter ace during the clone wars
Why bother?

>>93227398
>tfw no War Thunder style Star Wars starfighter flight simulator video game (Star Thunder?)
all I want to do is pilot my y-fu

>>93226910
Oh, there and there and there and a few more piece over there

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>>93227490
>no DCS autismo SW flight sim
>no X-Wing tier SW flight sim
>no Ace Combat in space tier SW flight sim
Not a good feel.

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Is this the holy trinity of good starfighter taste?

>>93227626
Yes

>>93227626
What's the third one?

>>93227626
>y-wing
More like Overrated taste

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>>93227626
Checks out.

I want to remove the tailgunner, make it just a bit sleaker and turn the ARC into a space Tomcat

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>>93227645
ARC 170.

>>93227626
>y wing over x wing
Nah

>>93227675
Fuck, didn't recognize it with the wings folded. I'm ashamed of myself now.

>>93227679
X-wing is ultimate normie-tier.

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>>93227650
X-wing is already literally an F14 Tomcat
>everybody wants to be the Top Gun
>the superiority fighter of all time
>swing wings

>>93227646
the Y-wing is constantly and consistently underrated by EU-memers whose only exposure to star wars is Rogue Squadron video games, comics, and novels
See:
>>93227679
>>93227696

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>>93227689
I wish that top gun episode/arc happened to give them a spotlight.

>>93227715
So what I'm getting is that only hipsters like Y-Wings, got it.

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Does /swco/ like Aphra?

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>>93227715
>the air superiority fighter of all time
>anthing but the FW190
Jokes aside though, I was more going for the two seater aspect.

With just a bit of modding the ARC can work as a pretty good looking two seater, with s-foils, grumman spaced engines and all.

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>>93227715
>X-wing is literally an F14 Tomcat
Yep, automatic 10/10. There's also pic related.

>>93227753
she has potential but it's really being wasted on mystery box bullshit meaningless sidequests instead of actually doing anything important, but that's a symptom of virtually the entire franchise at the moment with the sole exception of Rebels, and prospectively, Battlefront 2 and TLJ

>>93227067
She played Tavion, who died no matter what ending you picked in Jedi Academy.

>>93227753
I'm indifferent to her.

This week's Lost Stars isn't a chapter. Sorry everyone.
>>>158536853

>>93227741
PLEBEIAN
X-Wing

CONTRARIAN
Y-Wing

PATRICIAN
A-Wing

ÜBERMENSCH
B-Wing

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>>93227780
the ARC-170 is literally just a P61 Black Widow

>>93227793
thought Tavion was just catatonic at the end of JA, but its been a while since I played it

>>93227781
>mfw nobody realizes these are the original designs for the Z95 Headhunter as invented for the 1979 Han Solo Adventures trilogy instead of the cut-rate, clipped-wing, cuckshed X-wing that it became in the 90s

>>93227805
whoops
>>>/a/158536853

>>93227822
>ARC-170 is a P61

I thought everyone knew that.

>>93227818
B-Wing a shit, it's no wonder why it's hardly ever used in anything.

>>93227753
I like her

>>93227786
You need to stop seeing stories as "important" or "unimportant" because not only is that entirely based on opinion, you never know what's going to be "important" in the future.

Just enjoy the story at hand, or move on and try enjoy the next. Judging based on importance is ridiculous, not everything can be Galaxy-changing. Even the movies have silly sub-plots that go nowhere, like everything Chewbacca does in the entire OT.

>>93226886
I swear to god I saw a background character that looked EXACTLY like her who showed up for a split second in a later episode. Even weirder, she was looking directly at the main character group as if to say "hey wait, don't you remember me?"

Maybe they used the same character model?

>>93227818
Close, but there are some small errors in need of correction.

Kelly Comics Today's No-Good Teens:
>X-wing

Kelly Comics Freedom-hating Hippies:
>A-wing

Kelly Comics Sophisticated Adults:
>Y-wing

Kelly Comics Crying Lady Liberty:
>U-wing

Kelly Comics Sickos:
>B-wing

>>93227884
pics or it didn't happen

>>93227884
Literally watch the first episode and you will see the same model used at least three other times.

>>93227884
Yeah, they actually used a recolored model of a random Lothal citizen for Tua.

>>93227884
There actually was a few characters models reused in Season 1, but they were always tweaked so they weren't identical. Different hair color, ect

Was the only way they were going to do crowds on Season 1's pitiful budget

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>>93227880
but everything is being set up as being important with no payoffs, just constant blueballing (outside of Rebels) for the past 3 years

>>93227845
apparently not because people think its an F14

>>93227891
forgot my pic

>>93227304
Exactly at worst we get another TFA.

>>93227626
That's my trio.

>>93227948
That's the worst outcome though

>>93227716
Holy fuck. Literally all I ever wanted from that show was a space battle arc.

>>93227936
>>93227922
>tfw no George to put shitloads of money into every episode just to make it look good
Why did we let this happen? We could be having The Seige of Mandalore instead of The Force Awakens by now.

>>93227974
Its my least favorite to but can we please drop the hyperbole? No a true trainwreck is the worst outcome for example the last fantastic 4.

>All this rebel scum in this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

>>93227781
>>93227822
>Nobody realises
I'd heard that, I just didn't know if it was part of any official material or not.

>>93227941
>apparently not because people think its an F14
You missed the point I made above in saying that I was looking for a two seater to "convert". The ARC happens to be one of the few if not the only fighter in SW that's a two seater with a sensible seating configuration for something like this.

People perhaps take these real-life comparisons a bit too literal in some cases.

>>93227994
I don't know why the pilots never got too much love. I guess we have Hera now though, but that's not really the same.

>>93227941
>no payoffs, just constant blueballing (outside of Rebels) for the past 3 years
Canon is only three years old, and we have had;

>Stuff from TCW, Rebels, and some Books paying off with Rogue One, a fucking movie
>A New Dawn paying off with Rae Sloane rising up to be a primary antagonist in other books (and a comic)
>Shattered Empire comic and Lost Stars is spanning out into a fucking AAA videogame
>Side-character in Vader's comic ends up surviving in a VERY climactic final issue, and getting her own comic
>Thrawn book setting up other books to explore the Unknown Regions, might even be FO related

There's been some huge cross-media payoffs that were the result of things being set up, and again, shit has only been rolling for 3 years.

Why are you pretending like we haven't had any pay-offs, or strong self contained stories? You're acting like literally everything is being made to "set up" something else, when the reality is that almost all of it is telling it's own story too. And usually very competently.

Not to mention Rebels is for obvious reasons, where the bulk of canon content is coming, and you admitted yourself that the show has been having consistent "important" payoffs, like the origins of the Rebel Alliance, the end to Maul, Vader confronting Ahsoka, and much more.

So your notion that Canon should have had much more "payoffs" by now is ridiculous. We've been getting consistent interesting developments and good stories across the board for three years, and we're only 1/3rd into the ST.

>>93228040
Fuck off Raith, go back to making shitty tanks.

>>93228040
If TIEs weren't so shit people wouldn't have to resort to flying Clone Wars or Rebel stuff. Did you ever think about that Sienar?

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>>93228077
I hope we get a cameo from Ciena REEEE in BF2, considering that LSG guy said the game was connected to that book

Even an audio transmission from her in the Jakku level would be amazing

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>>93227626
>no TIE fighter
>no geonosian fighter
>naboo fighter though

>>93228157
My guess is the connection to Lost Stars is probably the Battle of Naboo after Endor when the Imperials used Naboo as a rallying point. Since they already have Theed as a map for the multiplayer it wouldn't surprise me if they had a story mission where you took part in the Civil War Battle of Naboo.

>>93228182
>TIE Fighter
you best be joking

>>93228182
I'll give you the bug one, it's kind of neat in a WW2 german fever dream way.

>>93228194
Missed the starfighter as opposed to regular fighter, so I'll swap it with TIE advanced. Regardless it has superior A E S T H E T I C S

>>93228192
Possibly, but wasn't that also the plot of Shattered Empire? Or did Lost Stars delve into Naboo stuff too?

I only remember it focusing on Jakku post-Battle of Endor.

But the LSG guy at E3 said they were looking to expand out of Lost Stars and Shattered Empire when telling the story. We already saw Sheevbot and Jakku, so there could be even more stuff.

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What the fuck was his problem?

>>93228141
Can't hear you over the contracts from the Empire to make shitty vehicles.

>>93228228
No Shattered Empire was set like a day after Endor when the Empire attempted to destroy Naboo as part of Palpatine's contingency plan. They failed and as the Empire was falling to the New Republic Imperials began to use Naboo as a rallying point since it's the birthplace of Palpatine. They fought for months on Naboo until they were defeated at the Battle of Jakku.

>>93227184
>>93227195
Yes

>>93228233
too much spice

>>93228077

Lets rephrase that. I think he means nothing anybody gives a fuck about is paying off.

Why did Luke's entire academy come crashing down? We don't fuckin know. Why did Han and Leia's marrige disintegrate? Doesn't really matter outside like two paragraphs of a book that is at best just tease for the last question and justification for TFA's retarded setup. Why did the empire just go along with the peace treaty when we directly fucking see in the book you say will have payoff that they called it retarded and were attacking anyway?

I don't give a fuck about literal whos. You can have payoff all damn day if you keep inventing issues to solve yourself. That's like your car breaking down, then taking an axe to your front door so you can fix that instead.

For fucks sake your entire post is full of maybe's and might be's. You expect the payoff in BF2 to be worth it despite the first game being fucking horrible. You're trying to say the Thrawn book has payoff when you say it MIGHT be vaguely related to the First Order in a way that's neither seen nor confirmed. Rae Sloane is someone people keep pushing as a big deal despite being a literal who who's only appearances are one comic, a wendig book, and a cartoon tie-in nobody read.

The entire idea that NuCanon is "worth it" is at this point just blind faith that's totally undeserved. Disney and Lucasfilm have shat the bed so many times that giving them any kind of benefit of the doubt is fucking absurd.

>>93228259
Ahh okay, gotcha

With that in mind, I really do hope certain planets in BF2 will be playable in multiple eras.

Thinks like Kamino and Starkiller should obviously stay within their Era's, but Naboo would be a waste if they keep it PT only.

And as you mentioned, a Naboo mission in the single-player would be fantastic and connect nicely with the connecting media.

Am I the only person who is unironically excited for Forces of Destiny? I like the idea of an animated show that just goes all over the place showing little stories in all eras. I don't really give a shit about the female aspect (I wish it wasn't there because it really restricts which characters you can use in it and causes unnecessary shitstorms) but in general it's more animated Star Wars by Filoni so I can't wait for it.

>>93228233
Went to the Luft 46 forums too often.

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Post lewd.

>>93228295

I mean as much as apologists like to make excuses EA has exclisivity, Rebels is on extended cable with a tenth the budget, the entire film trilogy needs to be based on J.J.'s glorified reboot, and Marvel's art is so blatantly horrible and full of tracing the comics are nearly unreadable before you even get into the mess of the stories themselves.

Three years is a long time. If they didn't constantly fuck up people would be happy. For fucks sake regardless of Thrawn it should not have taken that long for Zahn, who was a constant in the EU, to come back. Stackpole isn't back at all. The characters they created have no replacements in the same niche, and those Niche's were filled by old Marvel within three years before it got overwritten anyway.

>>93228305
My main problem with it is that its artstyle is atrocious. You can make a 2D animated series without it looking ugly. It's like they're actually trying to scare the girls away instead of attracting them to the franchise.

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>>93228327
Are you sure?
In some countries you could be sent to jail for this sorta stuff.

>>93228353
Judging by the art style of most little girls' shows, I think Forces of Destiny is spot on for the target audience.

>>93228295
>Why did Luke's entire academy come crashing down? We don't fuckin know.
Because that's going to be answered after the next movie comes out, genius (provided the movie itself doesn't answer it, which is more likely)

>Doesn't really matter outside like two paragraphs of a book that is at best just tease for the last question and justification for TFA's retarded setup.
Except Bloodline was actually a fantastic self-contained story, as well as """"""set-up"""""" for TFA. (The book actually had help from Rian Johnson so that it connects well into TLJ too)

>Why did the empire just go along with the peace treaty when we directly fucking see in the book you say will have payoff that they called it retarded and were attacking anyway?
I don't understand what you are saying here, but if you're referring to Mas Amedda surrendering at the end of Empire's End, it's because the Empire and New Republic threw everything they had at the Battle of Jakku, and the Empire did not come out in any way victorious.

>I don't give a fuck about literal whos
Okay? I assume by "literal who", you're referring to all the non-movie related stuff which you obviously are not following. So all the payoffs with those characters "don't count".

>Rae Sloane is someone people keep pushing as a big deal despite being a literal who who's only appearances are one comic, a wendig book, and a cartoon tie-in nobody read.
She's been in two short stories, and the main antagonist of FOUR books. That's four books in three years of Canon. But wait, she doesn't count, does she?

Stop pretending you actually follow canon. It's painfully obvious you're just a buttmad EUfag trying to discredit shit you've never read.

>Disney and Lucasfilm have shat the bed so many times that giving them any kind of benefit of the doubt is fucking absurd.
LOL

>>93228353

Forces of Destiny looks fucking horrible. Gradients have never, ever looked good and the big head style just does not work with Star Wars. You can very clearly tell Filoni's heart wasn't in it talking about the project and even the episodes themselves don't look too good. Who the fuck wanted an entire episode devoted to the thirty seconds Rey dealt with the dude with the cyborg horse?

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>>93228327
:^)

>>93228077
I might be able to buy your argument about Rogue One (even though that itself is really just a nostalgia-porn setup that literally self-immolates in order to defer entirely to ANH and retroactively comprise a memorial to the late Carrie Fisher), but your other examples aren't payoffs, they are in fact the exact opposite, they are teases. I mostly like new canon so far, and I find it far preferable to the mess of the old EU, but as it stands, almost nothing of any significance has been exhibited outside of the Rebels cartoon (certainly not in TFA), and the most objectively important aspects pertaining to the sequel era (final defeat of the Empire at Jakku and the formation of the New Republic) is hidden amidst the deviantart fanfiction-tier schlock of Aftermath's melodramatic OC's. EVEN THEN it barely explains anything important beyond a few offhand sentences here and there, consisting almost entirely of various character angst.

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>The "Everything Lucasfilm does is shit even though I've never read/watched it" and "Muh Stackpole" EUfags are back
Oh boy, it's been a while since I saw this episode

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>>93228327

>>93228376
>Because that's going to be answered after the next movie comes out
That's an awfully big hypothetical concerning nearly EVERY character from the GCW to the Sequel Era. We do not know what the fuck happens with anybody because there is obsessive mystery box attitude from LSG trying to preserve the next "I am your father" spoiler.

Furthermore, your reference to Rae Sloane is totally irrelevant, because we have no idea how she goes from Captain in AND to VICE ADMIRAL in the Kanan comic, and literally anything she does involving him or the Ghost crew (or anything at all really) between that comic appearance, a cameo in Lost Stars, and fucking off to (presumably) form the First Order in a super star destroyer. So again, mystery box; ideally they'll show her off in TLJ to explain what the hell happened, but until then, we're still getting blueballed.

So fuck you and the horse you rode in on with your accusations of EUfaggotry towards a person who regularly defends the new canon (in spite of its flaws) from the cowardly hordes of EUtistic manchildren.

>>93228396
How are my other examples not payoffs?

Battlefront 2 is showing the Battle of Jakku in a fully canon and interactable experience. That Battle has been teased since back in 2015 with Lost Stars, as well as featuring prominantly in Empire's End. That's THREE seperate cases of the Battle being shown, as well as a flashback in the Poe comic.

The Battle of Jakku has been treated as a huge deal ever since we first heard about it, and BF2 is going to be the climactic experience of it fans have been waiting for.

Now lets take Shattered Empire; We have TWO teases that comic gave us. Or, technically three.

>Baby Poe being implied to have some kind of special gift; pays off in TFA when we see he is the ultimate gary stu X-Wing pilot
>Force Trees; See The Last Jedi
>Sheevbots; A very brief look at Sheev's contingency plan.

Now regarding the Sheevbots set-up, we now know that Battlefront 2's plot is partially centered around you as an Impirial Special Forces operative taking ordered from a Sheevbot to directly act out his contingency orders.

So please tell me how those set-ups are not being paid off in Battlefront 2.

And regarding Aphra, as I explained, her comic IS the payoff. She is set up in the Vader comic, so that we can now follow her on her own adventures. And they have been both fun, and interesting, themselves setting up tidbits of old republic lore, while developing Aphra's own story.

>>93228396

The EU was a mess but could you imagine if it was written like NuCanon is now?

The Thrawn Trilogy would be absurd to read. It's a massivley overhyped book but it was self contained nad it didn't try to masturbate on how you'd see those characters again. You saw them later because people liked them, not because a fucking committee decided Niles Farrier was going to be the breakout dude and put him in a bunch of other shit.

Which is what's happening now. Phasma is a joke and literally nobody outside youtubers who make trivia and about four waifufags cares about Rae Sloane. The Crimson Corsair had a story announced before TFA even dropped and he and his sidekick were the only guys from the cantina to get any focus because Lucasfilm just kind of assumed he and Phasma would be their new Boba Fett.

As sprawling and self contradictory as the EU was, you only saw shit again if it was good and people wanted to see it again. Saber Knees dude is a non entity but Mara Jade had obvious places to go. Kam Solusar was an ok side character so he only showed up when a writer wanted him and fucked off otherwise. Dash Rendar was cool to some people so he was in a couple of things after Shadows ended, but he didn't get shoved into big events like he's the fucking Wolverene.

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>>93228364
ftfy

>>93228483
Don't act like an EUfag then. I try to be civil, but I lose patience when I see bullshit.

You said Sloane was in nothing but "a wendig book, and a cartoon tie-in comic nobody read", which is just factually wrong bullshit that could only be spouted by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

Looks like going inside large ships on foot in space battles is confirmed for Battlefront 2. Sorry for the ROWBEEYY FWOM STUUR WAYRZZZ ECH QYUU link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkCltxTBghU

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>>93228393
>>93228475
>best boy paired with Tumblr-the character
Disgusting

>>93228505
Battlefront 2 isn't out yet so we cannot speak on anything that happens in it authoritatively, and as such is irrelevant in the current moment.

Ironically you actually use the word "tease" three times in that post, and "setup" as well without any evidence of "payoff", conceding my point you tried to refute.

>>93228574

Which is the thing. His entire argument is basically

>Well we don't have the payoff NOW but in a mere YEAR we probably will due to all of these things. No I don't have any real confirmation on that but TRUST ME!

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>>93228536
>Looks like going inside large ships on foot in space battles is confirmed for Battlefront 2
JUST LIKE THE SIMULATIONS

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>>93228505
>Force Trees; See The Last Jedi
>See The Last Jedi
You time traveling wizard, we don't have TLJ yet.

I think my biggest issue with new canon is that most of the material ranges from bad to mediocre.

>>93228594
Exactly, which is a non-argument, and coincidentally, the only time I've ever seen anything in these threads that looks like actual shilling, in spite of the legions of butthurt EUDF posters crying about "muh Disney muh mouse shill shill shill." I can't trust it because it's disingenuous and logically invalid. I too hope that all my concerns will be relieved when the canon actually gets an opportunity to expand without having to adhere to the JJ Mystery Box, but until that happens, I have to be brutally honest; Rebels is the only genuinely good part of canon right now. The rest, from the movies, to the books, to the comics, to the games, may be decent, but without the resolution of their grandiose expository setups, they simply fall short.

>>93228570
Sabine isn't tumblr the character, she's a non character.

>>93228570
No, she just likes art.
You REALLY don't want to know what Tumblr: the character would actually look like.

>>93228536
Almost there. Give me some space to surface transitions, and this will win me over .

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>>93228659
>dyke-tier colored hair
>muh strong woman who barely ever fails
>edgy mando
>cheesy one liners which are even too cringy for Star Wars

>not Tumblr the character.

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>>93228657
>there are people who think sabine got character development in s3
I'm trying to get my hopes up for her in Season 4 but I have a bad feeling it won't happen.

>>93228659
you ought to post it, the "guide to yet another noodly limbed generic tumblr nigger tranny" or whatever that pic was

>>93228574
>>93228594
>>93228599
>>93228652

Yes, it is completely true that a lot of the payoffs have not happened yet.

PLENTY HAVE, which you conveniently keep ignoring, but yes, most of the big payoffs are still yet to happen.

But gee, is that not maybe because we're only 1/3rd into the ST, and we're only just about to get our first ever canon videogame story? Jesus christ, why do you expect so much so fast? You're complaining about it being "already three years and not enough has happened", when any sane person should see that it's ONLY BEEN three years. That's not a lot of fucking time, especially when they're only just releasing the first of their annual movies and games.

As for the comics and books which you conveniently keep ignoring because they "don't count" because the characters are "literally who's", we have had plenty of fantastic stories from those, some of which are absolutely stellar, and some of which have an impact on the future of the franchise.

I'm talking about Bloodlines. I'm talking about Lando. I'm talking about Lost Stars. These, and plenty others, are fantastic stories that work on their own, as well as setting up stuff down the line. Be it Lando and Lobot's characterization in ESB, or the future media Lost Stars and Bloodlines has set up.

>>93228692
I have not ignored them, I have referenced them by name and in-content event, nor have I ever used "literal whos," though a couple of Cuck Wendigo's oc's no doubt fit that mark, and I'm not talking about Sinjir and
>Zhe

Again, the canon content we've received is nice and all, but learning that Lando and Lobot went Ocean's Eleven on Sheev's ship isn't anywhere near as interesting or important as, say, what the fuck is the Rebellion actually DOING in between the movies. All these Luke, Han, and Leia adventures are nice but they don't tend to involve anything of import actually happening, the single biggest event in the Marvel comics was Vader discovering Luke was his son and that was only given a combined 2 pages of attention, across three different issues.

>>93228806
>nor have I ever used "literal whos,"
I referred to a few posters, you'll have to forgive me, I wasn't trying to accuse you ALL of pretending to follow canon.

>Again, the canon content we've received is nice and all, but [...] what the fuck is the Rebellion actually DOING in between the movies
Read Twilight Company then.

Lucasfilm has been trying to flesh out canon from every single angle.

We have empire-focused books, rebellion-focused books, books about Tarkin, and books about the ST Galactic Senate. We have comics about Jedi, about Luke, about Aphra, about Poe Dameron's parents. We have a game about Sheev's contingency plan and some Imperial Spec Ops. We have movies about what happened after ROTJ, and what happened seconds before ANH. We have a cartoon about the Rebellion, that also delves into what happened to Ahsoka, and Maul, and the Mandalorian Clans.

Why are you pretending like Lucasfilm isn't trying to tick all the boxes? They are absolutely telling all kinds of stories across all their media, there is literally something for everyone, both released already, and on the horizon. That's how Star Wars should always be. We should be celebrating the amount of content everyone is enjoying in these first 3 years, not complaining about how not enough specifically appeals to you.

>>93228931
>Twilight Company: in which a major happening in set up but it falls flat and the Rebellion does nothing but hide and lick its wounds between ESB and ROTJ
yeah nothing like reading about the battle of the bulge from the side of the germans

>>93228931
I think you're giving him too much attention dude. The canon is pretty healthy imo. Of course there's room for growth, and growing is what they're doing. The LSG is doing a good job. Not even shilling. Covering so many different types of media and making sure they're all connected and not contradictory is no easy feat.

>>93228931
>We have a game about Sheev's contingency plan and some Imperial Spec Ops.
no we don't it's not out yet we know nothing about it other than teases, stop falling back to this false argument

and I already admitted the importance of Star Wars Rebels, indeed its the only truly worthwhile thing currently (made since the canon purge), with most of the rest being merely inoffensive chaff

I can't speak about the entire canon, but I have to agree with the anon(s) on the "mystery box" complaint in regards to Rebels. The show clearly has lots of influence on the rest of the canon, with its planets and vehicles and weapons showing up in the comics and stuff, but it's almost like the characters themselves don't exist outside of the show at all (barring Hera and Chop in Rogue One and a very few nods elsewhere), because they are trying to preserve the fates of the characters in the show.
E.g. Luke is going at great lengths to learn anything he can about the Jedi, but neither his wingman nor anyone else in the Rebellion ever bothered to mention that they actually had one, alongside a padawan (or worse, if they still have them and "they are just working in the other part of the galaxy")

>>93229205
They literally showed in the newest trailer Iden being told she has new orders, and then the Sheevbot shows up.

But we can keep pretending like that isn't going to happen until the game launches if it would satisfy your autism.

>indeed its the only truly worthwhile thing currently (made since the canon purge), with most of the rest being merely inoffensive chaff
Yep, all the dozens of books and hundred+ comics I read were completely pointless, never went anywhere, and will never go anywhere. Good to know, thanks for opening my eyes anon.

>>93229188
Yeah, I should have stopped a while ago. I'm done now, this is just silly.

Thanks for your post though anon.

>>93229211
Yeah this is really ironic, I find that Rebels does the best job at actually having interesting and important things happen, but they are so outrageously secretive about their fates, they absolutely will not permit the alleviation of any suspense or anxiety, they HAVE to keep you in the dark at all times so they can finally hit you with the next big "I am your father" line. And then hit you with the next one after that and the next one after that and so on.

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>>93229211
Well rebels takes place before ANH and Heir to the Jedi and the main comic take place between ANH and ESB. Pure speculation here, but I'm pretty sure they're going to pull a R1 and kill everyone and anyone heavily involved with Phoenix. Look at what they did to Sato.
>>93229267
No sweat buddy

>>93229356
They might kill a couple characters, but not all of them

>Sato
F

>>93229356
Canonically Phoenix Squadron can't all be killed because we know Hera fights alongside Leia on Endor and in A New Hope you can hear Phoenix Squadron being hailed over the intercom.

>>93229473
>Hera fights alongside Leia on Endor
???

>>93229473
Well look at Twilight Company. Same name, new leadership.

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>>93229493
An interview about Forces of Destiny teased that we would be seeing Hera at Endor

Seeing as Rogue One confirms she survives the show, it seems that Hera has been given the "all clear" to be promoted in stuff later in the timeline

>>93229493
http://screencrush.com/star-wars-rebels-hera-forces-of-destiny-return-of-the-jedi/

>>93229267
I appreciate you hallucinating arguments I did not make in an attempt to dismiss and denigrate my points. A trailer means nothing. Look at The Last "WTF IS THIS? An Empire Strikes Back Rehash? Is Episode Nine Going to Just Be Return of the" Jedi trailer that imbeciles and baiting shitposters are taking at face value. So the Raider corvette is now canon - so what?

>>93229519
"At Endor" also implies she's in a cruiser giving commands to fighters, or they can throw the Ghost into the battle on the fringes if they so please.

>>93229522
Hmmm, at first I was just interested in the shorts...but now I'm hype!

>>93229542
No, the interview literally specifies that she would be with Leia there

>>93229542
No she's directly on ground fighting with Leia and Han.

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>>93229305
Unironically this.

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>>93229522
Is it really gonna be solely female-centric though?

>>93229566
>>93229542

Which is it's own brand of retarded. Why would they promote Lando to general and hand him a refitted Cargo Hauler he hasn't flown in years when they have an existing general in an equivalent ship more directly suited to war already handy?

>>93229893
'Cause it Billy Dee bby

>>93229893
Do we know what happens to the Ghost after Scarif? Do we know that Hera still flies it while being stuck with General duties?

>>93229963
No clue, but do you really think Hera would let anyone else fly it into battle?

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>>93229963

If Han and Lando can fly the Falcon while being generals the ghost should be no problem. Mustache General from R1 is in an X-Wing for fucks sake.

>>93229963
>Do we know that Hera still flies it while being stuck with General duties?

I don't see why not. It's her property.

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Seventh Sister isn't hot, and you will never convince me otherwise. Sticc is shit unless it's Kaminoans.

>>93230018
Lando flies the Falcon a whole one time as a General, and Han doesn't since he gets the title of General after he gets unfrozen and talks to the fleet.
For all we know, around ESB is when the Rebellion finally starts gaining enough people to stick into fighters (plus fighters themselves based on Vader Down) that having Generals lead in battle is pointless. Hera and Merrick are along for the ride at Scarif against the AHC's wishes, and it gets one of them killed for their effort.

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>>93230079
Fair enough, to each their own. I like sticc, but just in case have a thicc disneyland SS.

>>93230120

Except that doesn't happen. Han's a general who's leading about two or three dozen people tops. By the time the rebels get the resources for more Mon Mothma goes full retard and shuts it down.

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>>93230124
but that's not seventh sister, that's a qt thicc waifu cosplaying as her

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>>93230179
Nah it's clearly SS.

>>93230207
>implying there are girls who don't chase younger boys
look at all the female teachers fucking students in USA

>>93230182
best waifu

>>93229522
>>93229519
Well I'll be. That sounds awesome.

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>>93230182
truly the superior mando waifu.

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>>93230266
>tfw non-american
>tfw never got fucked by a hot teacher

>>93230491
I'm American and I never made it once with any of my hot older teachers, and not for lack of trying. Now that I've graduated university it's too damn late.

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>Trevorrow may not have written it himself, but it’s easy to worry about a filmmaker who found anything compelling in Hurwitz’s pages, or who fails so spectacularly in making us see whatever he saw in them. The Book of Henry is a disaster to its bones, as mind-bendingly broken as The Room or Birdemic or any other piece of cult outsider art. Except Trevorrow, whose next project is Star Wars: Episode IX, is about as insider as it gets. And somehow, that makes it a lot less fun.

At this rate. TLJ will be the best movie in the ST even if it's just two hours of Finn sleeping in bacta.

>>93230548
I second this

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>>93230548
May your poor soul find peace anon.

At least I had a much older gf once.

>>93230548
Your only last chance is to now have kids and go to parent-teacher conferences and events.

>>93230553
I called this ages ago

TLJ will be the only good ST movie, and the only one that actually adds to the overall saga with new and interesting lore, worlds, and developments.

IX is going to be just as messy, safe and predictable as TFA was.

>>93230592
what's the point if they're not teachers

>>93230599
what's the point if they're not older than I am

>>93229893
To be fair Lucas intended for Lando to have been a Shock Trooper during the Clone Wars but obviously since they didn't have de-aging tech during the early 2000s he had to get a new actor for the Clone Troopers retconning Lando's clone backstory.

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Christ almighty...she is far too lewd.

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>>93230651
indeed she is, we can only hope they hire her for the inevitable porn parody

>>93230619
Did you never have teachers that were older than your parents, at least in elementary school?

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>tfw you pause the video at the wrong moment

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>>93230601
My prediction now for my ranking of films favorite to least favorite is:

ROTS > TLJ > RO = ANH > TPM > ESB > AOTC > ROTJ > Episode IX > TFA

>>93230695
Of course, but let's face it, the ageless Sigourney Weavers and Raquel Welches of the world do not enter the education profession.

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>>93230727
>rotj that low
>rotj ever not top 2
this is your home

>>93230784
ROTJ is that low because of its godawful aged effects that take me out of the movie

It's a great movie don't get me wrong but I prefer ROTS, RO, ANH, TPM, ESB, and AOTC to it

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>>93230842
>Godawful aged effects
Literally no worse than ANH or ESB, and arguably (objectively) better. Not only is it the most complex special effects achievement of all time, it has yet to be matched by any CGI spectacle.

>>93230842
RoTJ was solid dude...

>>93230842
I was just about to say that you were going to summon the "ROTJ is the most complex special effects achievement of all time"-anon, but >>93230886 actually showed up before I could finish my post.

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>>93230727
>ranking AOTC over ROTJ

>>93230958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDlg1My0Cc&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTsQEoIcvA
it's true though, and any other opinion is a slanderous /tv/ meme, and this is ignorant its narrative poignancy and the retroactive filigree it gave to ANH and ESB

>>93231195
ignoring*
why the hell does 4chan autocorrect these days when I'm not even on the phone

>>93231195
Hey im not going to argue, ROTJ is my tied second favorite, and it's special effects really are incredible

>>93229893
Which vessel is smaller, Ghost or Falcon? Size does matter when you're working your way down twisty inner passages after all.

>>93230886
>Literally no worse than ANH or ESB, and arguably (objectively) better.
No, it is objectively worse in terms of effects. It's aged the poorest out of the films. The vast majority of matte paintings in the film look pretty fake, the speeder bike chase looks off, TIEs pop in out of literal nowhere towards the start of the Battle of Endor, matte boxes can be seen around ships,

> it has yet to be matched by any CGI spectacle.
Uhh, no. It has been matched and surpassed by CGI spectacles.

ROTJ is an impressive achievement in special effects but don't try to pretend that nothing since its release has matched or surpassed it.

>>93230949
I never said it wasn't. Its effects, however, have aged poorly in a lot of areas.

>>93231037
Yes? I prefer AotC to ROTJ.

>>93231293
I think the Ghost is smaller, but barely.

Phoenix Squadron and Imperial Sentry Droids are now playable in Force Arena!!! Why haven't you downloaded it yet /swco/?

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Whats with all the hate towards nonOT Imperial ships?

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I'm trying to go with a larger grid, but I don't have nearly enough waifus. I need ideas.

I'm sort of considering Suu Lawquane, Lyra Esro and Sana Starros, but I'm not sure I like/know them well enough. This isn't just simply about pretty faces (or lekku).

I'm NOT considering Barriss, Rey and that Zygerian woman. At least not yet.

>>93231316
>Its effects, however, have aged poorly in a lot of areas.
You could say the same for ANH, but it doesn't take away from the trench run. Or "That's no moon." Or the final explosion. Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, but it doesn't take away from the overall experience at all...

>>93231293
>>93231349
Ghost is something like 45-50 meters, Falcon is around 30-35

>>93231316
>No, it is objectively worse in terms of effects. It's aged the poorest out of the films.
wrong, no evidence given

>The vast majority of matte paintings in the film look pretty fake
wrong, in fact they were so good that they were the only ones out of the OT not to get revamped in the Special Edition

>the speeder bike chase looks off
unbearably wrong, no evidence given

>TIEs pop in out of literal nowhere towards the start of the Battle of
literally impossible to see without high definition freeze-frames, and this is a function of compositing in general, the same effects appear in ANH and ESB

>matte boxes can be seen around ships
only when looking for them on the 2005 special edition dvd

>It has been matched and surpassed by CGI spectacles
wrong, no evidence given

>don't try to pretend that nothing since its release has matched or surpassed it.
I'm not pretending :^)

>Its effects, however, have aged poorly in a lot of areas.
Give one example except for the deleted second part of the Lando/Han Home One hangar scene that gets memed on infinitely. There is nothing wrong with the first part of the scene in motion.

>Star Wars trilogy has only one good movie

Oh you mean like the other two trilogies?

>>93231363

Because knockoff Dark Troopers are boring and all Phoenix Squadron does is die the moment a loose breeze rolls in. Shill somewhere else.

>>93231451
>You could say the same for ANH, but it doesn't take away from the trench run. Or "That's no moon." Or the final explosion.
All of those hold up pretty well.

> Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from, but it doesn't take away from the overall experience at all...
In ROTJ it does for me

>>93231452
Oh I forgot to add, the exact same garbage mattes around composited spaceships appear just as visibly in ANH and ESB, particularly the TIE Fighter Attack after Obi-wan's death and the Asteroid Chase. But again, this is only an issue with the 2005 special editions and you have to be aware of them and looking out for them.

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>>93231449
>nothing from the EU
Come on

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>>93231494
>liking Dark Troopers

>>93231496
Fair enough.
>>93231494
see>>93231529

>>93231449
Tiplee and Tiplar, Adi Galia, Luminara Unduli, Aurra Sing

>>93231496
>All of those hold up pretty well.
Just like ROTJ.
>In ROTJ it does for me
The extremely visibly jarring perspective shift as the cameras change the angle on the Death Star dive don't ruin ANH for me.

Face it, you're triggered by the ewoks and lashing out on the effects to justify your public distaste for a movie made for 12 year olds.

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>>93231529
>not liking dark troopers

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>>93231449
>No Sly Moore
Are you even trying anon?

>>93231584
Why does this general like using the "12 year old" excuse so much as a crutch?

>>93231584
>>93231496
>>93231451
For reference:
https://youtu.be/2WBG2rJZGW8?t=357

>>93231618
It's not a crutch, it's a method of chastising immature people pretending to be mature by disdaining childish things as childish, instead of admitting it's ok for grown people to enjoy childish things.

>>93231618
>Why does this general use correct and poignant criticisms

Most of this general is underage

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>>93231568
>>93231449
Also Orphne and Teckla Minnau

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>>93231452
>wrong, no evidence given
I can provide evidence, you just didn't ask

>wrong, in fact they were so good that they were the only ones out of the OT not to get revamped in the Special Edition
Uhh, no, they just didn't get to them. the mattes hold up terribly

>unbearably wrong, no evidence given
just watch the scene and see for yourself. If you can't see how the compositing is off then I can't help you

>literally impossible to see without high definition freeze-frames,
It's pretty visible just watching in bluray quality

> and this is a function of compositing in general, the same effects appear in ANH and ESB
show me examples then.

>only when looking for them on the 2005 special edition dvd
They can be seen in the 2011 Blu Ray editions.

>wrong, no evidence given
Just sticking to Star Wars, ROTS and Rogue One both look better than ROTJ and their space battles look far better than the one in ROTJ.

>I'm not pretending :^)
You are. The notion than an impressive SFX achievement from 1983 has somehow not been surpassed is ridiculous.

>Give one example
pic related

>except for the deleted second part of the Lando/Han Home One hangar scene that gets memed on infinitely.
It's not deleted though?

> There is nothing wrong with the first part of the scene in motion.
Of course, but that doesn't mean that we get to ignore the clearly fake painting

>>93231677
I was going to give you a serious response until I saw
>clearly fake painting
at the end, at which point I can cleanly dismiss you as a total nincompoop. How can you tolerate the Death Star interior matte paintings covering up the non-existent, unbuilt, left half of the Millennium Falcon when they're clearly fake? How can you tolerate the stop motion Tauntauns which are clearly fake? How can you tolerate CGI when it's all clearly fake?

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>>93231584
>Just like ROTJ.
Not all of ROTJ though

>The extremely visibly jarring perspective shift as the cameras change the angle on the Death Star dive don't ruin ANH for me.
The visible jarring shift is something that only appears once. It's dated, yes. But ROTJ has many instances of dated stuff that just look fake.

>Face it, you're triggered by the ewoks and lashing out on the effects to justify your public distaste for a movie made for 12 year olds.
I never even mentioned Ewoks though? But since you felt the need to mention them, no I am not "triggered" by Ewoks. I actually like them. I'm only pointing out that the dated shit in ROTJ affects its spot on my favorites list(along with other factors). You guys are the ones triggered by my opinion.

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>>93231779
>at the end, at which point I can cleanly dismiss you as a total nincompoop.
Or you could just give me an actual response

>How can you tolerate the Death Star interior matte paintings covering up the non-existent, unbuilt, left half of the Millennium Falcon when they're clearly fake?
Point me to a scene where they stand out as clearly fake

>How can you tolerate the stop motion Tauntauns which are clearly fake?
The stop motion tauntaun DOES look fake. I never said ESB or ANH were exempt from dated stuff. I'm just saying that ROTJ is filled to the brim with it

>How can you tolerate CGI when it's all clearly fake?
Because most of the time the CGI is good enough for suspension of disbelief. When CGI clearly looks fake, I don't tolerate it.

Matte paintings CAN be good and believable. But they can also be clearly fake.

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>>93231524
I largely forgot the EU material that I've read/played, and there wasn't much of it to begin with (never even played KotOR II). Mara Jade, Bastila, Mission Vao and Isard are all I can manage. Maybe also Winter, Mirax and Iella Versiri, but I barely remember a thing about them. Besides, I intentionally wanted to focus on canon only.

>>93231568
Thanks. Not sure about all of them, but these are worth taking into consideration. I should look into Jedi waifus more.

>>93231596
She's creepy af, and we barely know anything about her.

>>93231670
Literally who?

>>93231670
The lewd qt weirdo alien that tried to eat Threepio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXQ8Qy_i0Pc

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>>93231449
Needs more chest lekku

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The only genuine error within ROTJ is when Vader's head clips through the bottom of the Lambda cockpit in this scene, but even then it's almost totally unnoticeable except to the most extreme turbonerds (such as ourselves) poring over every single frame on our hi def blurays.

>>93231864
How about Captain Brunson and Steela Gerrera

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>>93231864
>I should look into Jedi waifus more.
I think you should, anon.

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>>93232046
Yeah, how about them!

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We need a comic or something focused on pilots.

>>93230727
absolutely haram

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>>93232070
>>93232046
Also Ketsu Onyo, but she might be gay, or at the very least doesn't have any explicit OR implicit attraction to anybody (let alone whyte boiz)

>>93231899
I do not wish to be reminded of that episode, thank you.

>>93232020
Literally who, although if I get really desperate I may include her because she's quite beautiful.

>>93232061
A meme. Pass.

>>93232046
>>93232135
Hmm, might work.

Also I just remembered Iden Versio, I'm surprised nobody mentioned her before. There is a little uncanny valley/Mass Effect Andromeda thing going on with her in the trailers, and obviously the game isn't out yet, but I have a strong feeling I will actually waifu her.

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>there are people in this thread that don't want to tap space muslim ass

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>>93232117
literally poe dameron and his merry band of resistance pilots

>>93232278
I don't want to be betrayed and bombed and/or framed for it.

>>93232323
I'd do anything for yellow boobs and yellow cooch desu

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>>93232178
>Literally who
Koyi Mateil, background character from the space opera scene in ROTS

>>93232370
Jaundice may be the fetish for you, my friend

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>>93232278
I prefer real muslim girls to be desu

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>>93232451
That's even worse.

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>>93232178
How about this qt Terellian Jango Jumper. Come on anon, I know you wanna know how she looks behind that mask.

>>93232487
If I pull it off, would she die?

>>93227506
TOO SOON.

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>tfw you successfully win an argument

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>>93232500
It would be extremely painful.

Hey /swco/
SHIELD GENERATOR

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>>93232487
>she was wearing a mask the whole time
my entire life has been a lie

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>>93232577
Ok?

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>>93232487
>>93232603

She also has a thicc ass and a cute voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6bNhj4xp48

Jango Jumpers a cute

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>>93232575
for you

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Have two more waifus to consider for your collection

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>>93232834

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Gella twins are top tier twilek waifus

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>>93232878
jesus

>>93231449
Shaak Ti?

>>93232555
As opposed to unsuccessfully winning an argument?

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>there are anons in this thread that wouldn't hold her hand

>>93233112
That's fucking haram.

Get the fuck out.

>>93233112
fuck that terrorist bitch

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>>93231449
Why are you missing Shaak ti?
Also Aura Sing, that other female bounty hunter and the clones mama.

>>93233112
I would if I could, but I can't

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>>93233141
Posting superior colored alien waifus.

>>93233045
They are clearly American, ignore them. They still think 'each and every' is proper grammar.

>>93231783
I will never stop seething over that fucking SSD scene.
How the fucking fucking fucking shit can they make something that fucking big with only ONE fucking control bridge to control all of the fucking thing's fucking functions? How can it be designed in such a way that it'll fucking go dead in space (presumably and I'm giving Lucas some major fucking benefit of the doubt there when I say getting pulled into the DS2's gravity) and crashing into a damn miniature moon?
Fuck the Ewoks, that scene triggers me more than anything else in RotJ

>>93233045
>>93233210
>not understanding emphasis

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>>93233160
>that other female bounty hunter
Which one? There are both Sugi and Latts Razzi

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>>93233177
Are you Count Dooku?

>>93233262
>not understanding redundancies

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>>93233188
That's not blue

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>>93233297
>race that gets passed around as the galaxy's whores
>good waifus

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>>93233356
not all of them

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>>93233406
>implying Hera doesn't get passed around to the whole Rebel fleet, including Chopper

The only pure Twi'lek is

>>93233619
This WebM is still making it hard to conceive the sheer scale of this

It's like a city falling out of the sky

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>>93228327

>>93233544
God that scene is awful.

>>93232061
What is she?

>>93233758
DELET THIS YOU SICKO

>>93233544
>AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>93233406
See >>93228519

She's a slut

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>>93232628

lewd

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>>93233544

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>>93233797
>no fun allowed
-t. ESBfag

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>>93233701
Watching one of them take off from Sullust's surface is eerie as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBHUENFMtU

Look at the damn thing dwarf the two star destroyers escorting it.

>ywn have an alien harem with qts from everywhere in the galaxy

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>>93232603

this

>>93232312
> An A-wing

D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
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>>93232312
>Literally an A-wing
>Like from Return of the Jedi
>Not even a slight redesign like the Resistance X-Wing
>Or even a fucking paintjob like the First Order TIEs
>A FUCKING A-WING

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>>93234023
Yes the a-wing does get dropped

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>>93229305

>>93234163
they refer to it in the comic as woefully out of date, crap compared to the T70s, falling apart at the seams, and the only kind of backlot shit they can afford to get their hands on

but you're just looking for shit to be mad about, so go watch the TLJ trailer

the poe comic is boring bullshit honestly that will have no bearing on anything whatsoever since it's nothing more than a bally-hooed prelude to TFA

>>93234163
I believe it literally is a rotj a-wing

>>93233502
As someone who doesn't (yet) watch Rebels: Holy shit, that's Numa? Damn, she grew up to be a whoop-ass. Awesome.

>>93231449

Sy Snootles. I dare you.

>>93231449
Ziro's mom

>>93233701
To be exact, imagine droppping Manhattan from 35,000 feet.

>>93234163
He's an old rebel pilot from the battle of endor

>>93234163
That is literally a OT-Era A-Wing anon.

The TLJ trailer already shows that they get shiny new ones eventually

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>>93230727
>RO=ANH

'no'

>>93234435
Anybody who can legitimately, unironically get hard to Sy Snootles belongs in a gas chamber. I can fap to most of the shit in the xeno threads on /aco/, even the more extreme ones, but Sy is literally designed to be a completely ugly turnoff, and it is a success.

Hey can anyone point me to some clear sectors?

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>>93234518
'Yes'

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>>93234612
>wanting clear sectors

What are you, some kinda clone?

What are the odds that Episode IX isn't shit?

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Update.

Mirroring little-known Twi'leks in corners for maximum poetry

>>93234518
Not an argument

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Pls no bully

>>93234935
>seventh sister
shit taste

>>93234935
>that Leia
You can't be accused of giving ships to the Rebellion if the ships are stolen from you