Secret Empire United - "shocking" revelation at the end

>>93214032
I forget, is Kraken a mutant?

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>>93214120

no, but iirc Steve showed up to talk with Magneto along with some Hydra member who is a mutant a few SE issues ago.

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>>93214276
>>93214337

I always support stabbing and burning Wanda.

>>93213738

Thanks for posting this.

I'm skipping the event, but enjoyed reading this for free and confirming my choice to avoid this shit show.

>>93214433
I only wonder just how disjointed the tie-ins will be when compared to and placed against the main book.

>>93214299
Vision says "Impossible" if anyone cares

>>93214528
Bendis isn't writing shit so not much.

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I actually bought this hoping it would sell therefore show Marvel Emma sells and they dont destroy her character development since Generation X completely.
I know it is completely naive btw

>>93214625
It's hilarious, the issue of Secret Empire today did not even have the edited cover (switching Emma for Magick) in the "buy these tie-ins" page.

>>93214463
>>93214495
>>93214522
Oh shit.

This event is probably the best Marvel event since the evil Avengers with Osborn.
Secret Wars had great tie ins, but not a great main book. I liked todays SE with Pymtron a lot.
This was fine but I doubt muties will show in the main book even if they have one of the pieces.

>>93214120
>>93214198
Gorgon is a mutant

>>93214695
Thanks, I got the Mythical Named Hydra Agents confused

I guess this explains it. Somebody fucked up and spoiled the Emma reveal on the cover and they tried to switch to magik

>>93214667
it seems the only reason they changed the cover was they realized everybody hates the Judge Dredd Cyclops widow costume from the end of IvX. It will become a curiosity.

Emma should appear soon in X-Men Blue, I think it will be a Secret War tie in with "the new Hellions". Perhaps the 05 will give the cosmic cube piece to the good anti steve avengers.

>>93214495
>wanted for crimes against mutants and inhumans

I don't really follow Xmen, what is this referring to?

Also god damn that rack...

>>93213738
Why was Magik edited in place of Emma?

You can see the unedited cover in the bottom right of the image from this post:
>>93199294

>>93214934
I swear they mentioned that Emma was going to be in this with the press release when it was announced, but it seems like this guy >>93214786
might be right, and they changed the cover to not spoil her "surprise appearance."

>>93213745
What is it with Las Vegas getting blown up in comics?

>>93214934
Never mind,
>>93214793
>>93214786
Got my answer

>>93214337
Yes! YES!!!

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>>93214914

She killed a bunch of inhumans for the lulz (with Sentinels) in Inhumans vs XMen. That event was a disaster, apart from the first issue.
Just look at this

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>>93214914
You don't really want to know. Here's a rundown for IvX and DoX:
In Death of X, Scott died in her arms,
and she projected a fake version of him to many different people. This fake Scott turned one of the Terrigan death clouds into something harmless to mutants, and the Inhumans killed "him" for it. In IvX, she created an army of Sentinels in the last pages of the event, and blew up airships filled with innocent and unnamed Inhumans. This throws out a decade of character development, and now she went crazy because Scott died.

>>93214337
I am amazed they did it.

>>93215086

>Female Hero with criminal past is driven crazy and turned into a villain to tie up a terrible event comic

History repeats itself.

>>93214522
Looking good Ms. Frost. Glad to see she's ditched the Judge Dredd BDSM cosplay.

>>93215150
It cannot be stressed enough that the severity of this thing came out of the last few pages of the event. She had been teased that she was clearly having a breakdown during the event, but it was only in the last seven pages that the army of Sentinels appeared, with only a sentence of explanation of where she got them from (Mind controlling Forge apparently with no one noticing).
IvX was a total shitshow

>>93214495
>>93214522
Best X women is back! IN WHITE!! AND LOOK AT THAT RACK!
>>93214276
>>93214337
Scarlet bitch gets stabbed and literally roasted

NO more useless X men or incompetent idiots

Is this perhaps?! The best X men comic of the year?!

>>93214793
If it was about the dredd costume they would have just made it white queen version and not make magik

>>93214522
Cap has been Comic Brainwashed.

This is NORMAL Emma.

Bitch was always out to conquer the fucking world.

>>93213790
>Republic
>"King" Xorn

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>>93215362
Yes, that's why I love her.

>>93214247
>>93214276
>>93214337
If she has the powers of Cthon, then the battle should have been over almost as soon as it began. Unless he willingly renounced his powers, which is kinda dumb.

>>93215624
Maybe he did it in order to posses his waifu?

>>93214495
>>93214522
I feel like Emma is becoming my favorite A-list mutant.

>>93214575
Zola and Faustus are toast, they won't make it to the end of the event.

>>93214522
I thought we were supposed to dislike the nazis, this page basically screams "captain hitler was right about those fucking muggas"

>>93215624
Hydra has to have some leverage over Cthon, otherwise it wouldn't be working for them.

>>93215624
I'm pretty sure his powers are limited to his dimension... IN wanda's body I'm sure he has to follow earth rules for magic and actually cast the spells

>>93214111
This Just hit me. The news is talking about New Tian as a separate country, but Steve said he wouldn't state is was and said it would be a terrorist area...so...what?

>>93214934
Presumably to keep the last page reveal a secret, though it's kinda too late for that.

>>93215884
I don't know if I should feel good or bad for him.

>>93214060
I don't remember Sunfire being such a mutant supremacist . I thought he was more of a Japanese Nationalist

>>93214159
>>"Big Guy" is my Second Cousin.

Really? Nobody?

>>93215842
I think the alternative to New Tian was getting stuck in concentration camps...
Also showing mutant discrimination as a one sided issue was never the point of the X men, people always had reasons (some more valid than others) to dislike mutants

>>93214522
I just realized, Emma is crystal to show she's not controlling Cap.

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>>93214159
>Big Guy is my second cousin

>>93213820
This feels like some kind of social commentary I can't quite put my finger on.

>>93215963
Alright I'll say it for you, anon.

>>93214299
so when Vision does that, and he seems to do it a lot lately, is he actually meant to be saying the numbers out-loud or is it mean to be a burst of modem tones?

>>93216015
She can't use her telepathy in crystal form?

>>93214159
>Big guy is my second cousin
U U U U
>>93215957
Finish it !
>>93215952
I remember that once upon a time in one piece Sanji got his mind switched in Nami's body, although I'm sure Chton is beneath being happy for having big tits to touch anytime he wants

>>93214159
He is a large man, for yourself.

>>93214337
Guys, I'm sure the number 41,210 has some sort of religious occult meaning, someone should look into that

>>93216091
Yep. It's one or the other, not both at the same time. It is a clever way to make change tactics.

>>93216015
Or maybe he's just making Cap think she's in her diamond form. How hard would it be to pull that trick?

>>93216015
oh yeah. that's actually the bet possible poer a psychic can have in a lot of ways. a surefire way to gurantee someone you're not in their head

>>93214134
I'm sorry, who is this Xorn? He doesn't sound like the meditating Buddhist healer from the past... Jesus, it isn't Magneto again is it?

>>93215771
Unless their game to save their asses is to revert Steve when he starts coming for them.

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>>93216091
No

but I am surprised she can control a man like Xorn who has a black hole in his brain and a Metal Mask. No one could read Xorns mind in Morrisons X Men.
Either she is using a device like the one she made for Mastermind to let him mindrape Jean in the Dark Phoenix Saga, or she is somehow controlling Xorn with the cosmic cube piece.

or perhaps it isnt Xorn at all.

>>93216217
Magneto is supposed to be hiding in Mandipoor or something. Steve pretty much told him that he would fuck up all the mutants if Eric showed his face in the US

>>93216242
Magnus again I'd wager.

>>93216277
Can't have a survivor making the fourth reich uncomfortable can we?

>>93214495
I thought she was uglified in the face in IvX?

>>93216334

nobody knows what body part Medusa broke from her, it may have been hair, it may have been her clit or whatever

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>>93216334
Someone did break off part of her face at the end of IvX

>>93216277
well that's the thing innit?
he's not showing his face

>>93216371
Yeah this >>93216384
highly implicated it was her face to me, as I don't think she's ever covered her face before.

I'm glad to see Emma, but will be kind of sad if that bit is never used.

>>93216242
I'm guessing that while unable to grant wishes, a piece of a cosmic cube can enhance any abilities you have already

>>93216091
Emma loses her telepathic powers in diamond form. When her secondary mutation was first introduced, she also lost her psychic defenses in diamond form.

Emma's psychic defenses were a part of her telepathy. When she turned into diamond form, Emma was nigh-invulnerable to physical damage, but susceptible to telepathic intrusion and attacks.

where are the x-men (blue and gold)?
why beast will ally with shaw and a xion that likes to be called "my league"?
where is this new tian nation located?
why boom boom after years does not know strong guy code name?
doesn´t xorn has some crazy power / head made of star energy shit that made psychic intrusions impossible?

>>93213738
For the love of Chthon can someone explain to me why Bendis is on the cover?

Good job Zub.

An actual good tie-in.

>>93215845
He wants to bang Eliza.

> 3 billion years of sexual frustration and then along comes an Elder Goddess who isn't your boring goody goody sisters.

>>93215884
>>93215845

I think he's eventually going to get bored and start fucking shit up...because that's how Chthon rolls.

>>93216077
It's because Marvel's writers think of Vision the way John Byrne did, sadly.

>>93216743
>where are the x-men (blue and gold)?
Blue : Madripoor, although Emma will kidnap Tyke and force him to kiss Auntie Emma down there
Gold : School
>why beast will ally with shaw and a xion that likes to be called "my league"?
Beast has embraced his inner psycho, and it seems he finally decided to side with the mutants, or Emma is controlling him
>where is this new tian nation located?
America
>why boom boom after years does not know strong guy code name?
Boom iq ia lower than your average nigger
>doesn´t xorn has some crazy power / head made of star energy shit that made psychic intrusions impossible?
We don't even know if he's really xorn

>>93215086
Jokes on you. The zeppelin attack was a false flag and they were completely empty. Inhumans suck. So much so they don't even want to be around each other. Proof you can't possibly coral an airship full of the buggers.

>>93216465
best forgotten

>>93217265
Marvel and its writers are doing a remarkable job at turning me against the X-Men. It was the only comic I bought from them.

Does this mean Strong Guy has a soul again?

>>93217212
>It's an /ss/ episode

>>93217212
if the gold x-men are at the school (in the central park) shouldn´t be arrested by hydra?

>>93217675
or trapped in the dark dimension dome

>>93214495
>>93214522

HER TITS GOT BIGGER !!???

>>93214495
Aside of the Tumblr noses I really like this art.

>>93216797
>Bendis
>having hair
lmao

>>93217747
They were huge in IvX too

>>93217675
>>93217690
Hell if I care
>>93217675
My favorite episodes, I'm pretty sure Tyke will start trying some kinky stuff earlier thanks to Emma whipping him into submission, among other things I'm thinking but I'd rather not mention. Tyke -
Emma lewds are needed

>>93217846
They are 1:1 same size as her head now.

>>93217872 see >>93215251
He is for Ms. Sinister only.

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>>93217872
I have this.

>shocking revelation
>still sucks
>still won't matter after a magical handwave ending
when this first came out writers from other companies were congratulating spencer on telling such a good story
why?

>>93216384
what if she's using her powers to make everyone think her face isn't fucked up or she used the cosmic cube shard to fix it

>>93218175
its far more likely the writers forgot/didn't know in the first place
this is marvel
there's going to be at least one writer who thinks her name is Elma Forst

>>93213943
We haven't seen enough Otto in this event.

>>93218100
Nothings that happens in cape comics matters and all gets hand waved sooner or later.

>>93215963
>>93216029
>>93216094
You people are sick, please seek help for your mental condition.

>Zub wrote this
>And it's not god awful
Why couldn't he write this good for Thunderbolts?

Was it because of Bucky?

>>93219103
X-Fans are so desperate for books that aren't about the O5 or that shitty wannabe Claremont team that even Zub seems good

>>93219103
It's a one-shot so Zub's inability to maintain themes, plot or character development can't demonstrate itself. It's also not edited by a Stucky shipper so that may actually factor in here.

His dialogue is still clunky as fuck and his Uncanny Avengers issue is really bad, so this is just a fluke.

>>93214694
>This event is probably the best Marvel event since the evil Avengers with Osborn.
That's not saying much.

>>93214159
How is Magik expandable?

Why is Hydra a superpower again?

I know that Steve keikaku doori'd his way into everything but it really doesnt feel like Hydra country should still be a thing considering there's ultron land and mutant nation right beside it.

>Magik, C-Lister

ABSOLUTELY DISRESPECTFUL

>>93219786
She is no longer the magical bus

>>93219786
What value does she have?

>>93215470
>Res Publica Utriusque Nationis
>King

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth

>>93214134
Yeaaaaah, that's not Xorn. He JUST went into a conflict with Shaw during the occupation of Attilan in IvX.

Considering how Magneto was the one HydraCap came to regarding the deal, it's likely Magneto pretending to be Xorn. Would have been "weak" for Hydra to deal with the many-aged mutant terrorist himself, wouldn't it?

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>>93214159
>"BIG GUY" is my second cousin

>>93214159
Etrigan approves.

>>93214337
I'm surprised they didn't just offer Taskmaster more money and Deadpool the spot on the X-Men he always wanted from the start.

>>93214374
>Magik
>C-Grade

Wat?

>>93214411
>H4012A

pretty 1337 there, Steve

>>93214495
Yeah, not buying this "twist". There's gotta be another twist under the twist.

Because it makes no sense that Steve went to MAGNETO regarding the whole New Tian thing, yet he's nowhere to be found among the nation's ruling class.

>>93213886

Wow, Random? Haven't seen him be plot-relevant in a long, long time now. Nice to see a writer give a shit about a fairly interesting character who's been neglected for such a long time.

>>93214528
Well, this one is already disjointed from the rest.

>Spencer's main Secret Empire: Magneto and HydraCap agree that New Tian will be a "terrorist state" not recognized de-jure, but ignored de-facto by the Hydra USA
>This book: Hydra Nation has official borders and trade treaties with New Tian

>>93214060

Jeez, Shiro, when did you get to be so ranty? I always saw him as the sort of patriotic hero who was too invested in Japan as a nation first and mutantkind only secondarily to go down this path.

>>93214299
Blow it out your ass, wade

>>93214575
>Steven-senpai! Stop putting yourself in unnecessary danger, baka!
>Of course, Zemo, my friend.
>I-it's not like I care or something! It's for the good of the Hydra!

>>93214625
Monkeypaw:

>We saw people buying the issues: people LIKE villain Emma! Marvel wins.

>>93214337

>I'm not bein' paid enough for this shit.

Oh, Tony. Never change.

>>93214374

Illyana is surely at least B-Grade, Steve. She was part of Cyclops's Extinction Team for a reason.

>>93214495

Good to know why Shiro was acting so bizarrely out of character; this isn't a bad twist.

>>93215931
Marvel has shit editors, it's nothing new

>>93214247
did Shaw's powers change?
no way should Taskmaster's punch hurt him

>>93220746
>She was part of Cyclops's Extinction Team for a reason.
Yeah for transport purposes

>>93220638
He specifically told him that he wasnt going to lead the country and that he should stay in hiding in madripoor, presumed edad.

>>93220703
He's been mind-altered by psychic Hydra. So OOC is the point.

>>93219786
I'm more annoyed that Steve calls her C or D list. Seriously? Magik has been at least B, if not A list for a while now.

>>93217782
What the fuck does that even mean?

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>>93222796
How new are you?

>>93214547
The shocked faces of the Hydra High Council are unexpectedly hilarious

>>93214495
YES the corset has X cutouts second best girl still second best girl

>>93222579
Well Cap was being deliberately insulting.

>>93214522
Oh shit, is that another Cosmic Crystal shard? I missed that on first read through.

Marrow made out like a bandit here.

>>93218975
Only at Marvel. DC actually respects its history.

>>93223192
We've known that Xorn had one of the shards.

>>93214694
>This event is probably the best Marvel event since the evil Avengers with Osborn.
you talk as if dark Reing was good.
Empire have been a comfy read so far. I will give you that

>>93214495
>>93214522
>>93213820
>the X-Cops wear New X-Men costumes because Emma has nostalgia for that time

deepest lore

>>93223871
Dark Reign was good though. I miss Iron Patriot Osborn and Ms. Marvel Karla.

>>93213943
Otto, reduced to border guard duty.

>>93215086
>innocent and unnamed Inhumans
Armed inhuman troops that belong to an evil corporation brought with the exact purpose of killing mutants. Totally justified.

>>93218205
And at least one that will assume that her crystal form is made of ice.

>>93224173
>>93223871
Dark Reign also wasn't an event. It was a status quo, not an event. Siege was an event, but Dark Reign was just the lead-up to it.

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>>93222903

>>93219786
Anyone who wasn't an X-Man between 1963 and 1990 is expendable.

>>93214495
>disappointed that they wasted the opportunity to let Xorn do something relevant
>relieved that the Xorndickery was actually Emmadickery

>>93226476
New Mutants are expendable?

>>93226476
Gambit?

>>93226569
Not now that the movie is coming out

But for a while there they were pretty damn forgettable. With only Cannonball and Wolfsbane managing to stay relevant

Even right now it's just Sunspot, Cannonball and Magik

>>93226569
Everyone except Magik

>>93219870
He mind controlled the entirety of SHIELD to build a force then gave Zola basically an unlimited budget to build giant killer robots.

Still though Ultron is only not considered because he went full isolationist and Tian is powerful enough to take out Hydra but are more interested in preserving the lives of mutants over saving humans from themselves.

>>93222579
>>93220544

She noted that planetary shield cut her off the Limbo. That's the reason they didn't just teleport in and out. So for now she's almost powerless.

>>93227262
Is Nightcrawler cut off from the Brimstone Dimension?

Cloak cut off from the Darkforce dimension?

>>93227319
Darkforce exists in the same spot as New York

>>93214565
thank you anon

>>93227381
Okay so does that mean Vanisher can teleport into the Darkforce dome?

>>93227319
>>93227262
It was stated in the Captain America comic where they first introduced the shield that it emits some kind of tachyon field or some shit that stops any and all teleportation. The reason being that it's meant to keep aliens from being able to get around the shield by just teleporting past it, but has the adverse side-effect of also shutting down all teleportation on Earth-side, too.

>>93227485
That's stupid. On par with the rest of this bullshit event though.

>>93219786
I get the fact that the shield cuts her off from Limbo, and in that dimension she can pretty much ass-pull any magical feat she wants as the Sorceress Supreme.
Even with that huge cut in power, she has her soul sword, mystic armor, and over a YEAR of training in advanced magics from Dr. Strange to go on top of her already known library of useful spells on Earth, such as Astral Projection, Divinations, and the Cytorrak line of spells.

She's about one full step below Dr. Doom in the mystic arts while on Earth, and that's pretty damned buff when added to her spell breaking sword.

>>93216077
Modem tones or something similar like 'Clickwise' digital language from penny arcade's automata comic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trwYGBaDJOI

2:19 for the sound

>>93214226
Alright whose mind control fetish started the tradition of Wanda being mind controlled every week. Claremont?

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>>93226569
It's telling that the only team book featuring New Mutants right now is an Avenger book
The X-editors never cared about all those kids who were scamed into believing they would be the new generation of X-Men

>>93213975
I got to say, Sunfire jobbing this easily is pretty pathetic. He's supposed to be a lot stronger than this.

>>93214032
>>93214060
Where's Gorgon? As an actual mutant he should be part of this conversation.

>>93229643
He is trying to avoid them remembering he is a mutant because Hydra is his identity.

>>93214374
I love Zola's face

>>93229584
Yeah but he's not SUPERIOR!

>>93229584
The Avengers were far more pathetic.

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>>93213975
>Remender making Shiro a living force of nature will never be referenced again
Suffering

>>93228358
I think Magneto may have been the first, I can't remember who wrote that.

Actually in earlier stories, Chthon and Set were shown to struggle to control her (in fact she handed Set his ass several times).

Then Byrne did his Immortus character assassination, then Atlantis Attacks, where she was passive in contrast to previous encounters where she outwitted and beat Set.

Then Disassembled and HoM, then long absence from comics, then Red Skull mind jacking her.

There could, I hope, be a twist this time as I get the impression Eliza has fucked Chthon over and cucked him. There's no way Chthon would willingly be a lackey for Cap.

He's literally being made to walk in Wanda's shoes, he is now being controlled, and thus Wanda may come to bargain.

>>93228104
>waah waah I can't accept magic unobtanium that makes the event make sense waah waah

>>93230986
It seems like every mutant gets this sort of treatment and if this kind of shit got referenced you'd need to genuinely keep mutants separated in their own universe because you could never have anything happen without a mutant steamrolling through it.

>>93214495
>>93214522
the real YAAS QUEEN

>>93231220
> I think Magneto may have been the first.

You are correct sir.

During Acts of Vengeance he showed up in West Coast Avengers after Wanda had her breakdown of losing her children. He used the breakdown for her to snap into being evil and had her basically rape Wonder Man in front of her team.

Claremont hates Magneto as a full-on villain, while Bryne gets a major hard-on. So Gruenwald changed Magneto's reasons for being in Acts of Vengeance from out and out bad guy (as Bryne did) with him joining the villains to get close to Red Skull.

Though I believe Stan Lee started the mind control fetish with Magneto on Wanda.