Star vs the squad

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>>93200998

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STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!

CUTE AND PERFECT!

>>93200998
I've been away for too long. When did we get a clear image of the new intro group shot?

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I'm not a hobo, and that's not gravy.

>>93201032
intro was released officially by disney

>>93200998
>>93201014
Thanks for the best beginning of the thread.

>>93200998
Jackie will save Marco at the mid-season finale, revealing she's a mermaid

Bye Jackie

>>93201104

Source?

>>93201119
S3E1 "Jackie Fucking Kills Herself"

>>93201119
Last thread

>>93200998
>Kelly has a huge sword
>She'll never be able to use her sword because it's a kids show despite only tumblrinas and neckbeards follow it.

>>93200998
This is the squad that does the fighting off-Earth.

There will be episodes with the other characters.

E.g. Nefcy confirmed in the Meet & Greet that we'd get more Ferguson and Alfonso, despite them not being in the opening either.

Reminder that every coming-to-age narrative with a fantasy setting end with the normalfag choosing to go back to his/her mundane life and leaving all the magic behind as an allegory of leaving the childish things behind and growing up

>>93200998
>Will they actually be all together in some episodes
I doubt it

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>>93201183
That's what you think, faggot!

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>Kelly gets to be in the intro
>Despite being in like 2 episodes and being silent for the majority of one of those
I'm not even a Jackie fag but Kelly just seemed like a shitty one-off character.

>>93201287
I can see maybe 1 or 2 episodes where they are actually all in it, just for a HEY IT'S JUST LIKE THE INTRO moment. All but Tom were in Starcrushed at the same time, though they didn't all interact with each other.

but I really don't see the show shifting so much that it's not mainly Star and Marco doing their thing for the majority

>>93201330
She might play a more important role just like Mina

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>>93201155
People use weapons all the time in this.

>>93201322
That's every coming-to-age narrative with a fantasy setting.

>>93201453
When was the last time Star break a head with that thing? Because that's its function

>>93200998
Why the fuck is "where's Jackie" the only thing people seem to have taken away from this?

>>93201347
It will definitely happen in the season finale. Maybe they'll even parody the money shot scene in Avengers. There is 6 of them after all.

"And Tom..."
"??"
"Burn"
"[smirk]

>>93201475
It isn't, people also are talking about Marcos cape, Eclipsa, Kelly's future role, etc.

It's just a noticeable absence when all the other major teens are there

>>93201475
It's the most important part because shipping

>>93201183
Why do they end with that so often?

>>93201104
Good riddance

>>93201183
Fucking Gravity Falls

>>93201475
Because the fandom is full of super salty starcofags who are working off their traumas from all the cuckposting through shitting on jackie and baiting jackiefags

>>93201542
Before late capitalism, being an adult was a big deal. Fables are a way to teach morals and an important moral is to leave childhood behind

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>>93201183
>"Of course Star and Marco will end up together, that's how these stories always go"
>"Star and Marco will leave at the end, that's how these stories always go"
Getting real sick of your shit

This is Star's coming-of-age story, there's no fantasy vs reality theme at all. Earth and Mewni are just two different places, each with their own wonders and own problems. Star's magic isn't even commented on by regular people specifically because the show has no interest in dealing with that issue.
For Star, escapism is just hanging out with Marco. Being responsible means accepting that she's going to be the next Queen. And she's going to need her King.

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>>93201578
Have you considered
that most people like both Star and Jackie
and most of the people who enjoyed Star's suffering
are also enjoying Jackie's suffering?

>>93200998
Jackie's going to show up anyways so I don't get why anyone would be losing their shit desu. In fact, I don't think anyone actually is.

>>93201672
Showing up could be as little as a quick breakup sometime in the movie, then Marco cutting her out so he can start galavanting with star in other dimensions

>>93201656
It's different.
Star deserves to suffer, her suffering is a direct result of her own actions, actions she knows to be wrong, actions where she deliberately ignored the advice she was given. Star's suffering feels like poetic justice and like something that will make her grow as a person, something necessary to teach her the lessons she's been trying to avoid.

Jackie however has done nothing wrong. She gave a spergy dude a chance because she respected his stamina and perseverance and honesty. She's been a good girlfriend, listening to and supporting Marco and even giving him space to sort stuff out with his bestie. She's friendly, forgiving (didn't throw a fit when Marco broke her skateboard), cute and fun and sporty and brave, she grabbed Marco to save him and Star from being sucked into the portal and fought off the rats.

So her suffering feels unjust. It's not as enjoyable.

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>>93201183
>Both Jackie and Star represent childhood fantasies
>Marco ends up with the girl who he actually knew since childhood
>"Sometimes what you're looking for is right by your side the whole time."

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>>93201652
jackie is a qt

>>93201623
I agree with you about everything except the last part. This show is deliberately avoiding several conventional story elements, and Jarco even being a thing is one of the ways that Nefcy does so. I ship it precisely because I want to see what other twists she's willing to put on the bland cartoon romance tropes western animation always falls to. Star accepting that she can't always have what she wants and being happy for her friend isn't unreasonable whatsoever given the way the show has headed over the course of Season 2, and Season 3 can't just drop that altogether. If Starco happens, it won't be this season.

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It's going to kill me Everytime that gif is posted. I missed a frame. I fixed it but four Chan won't let me post a duplicate.

To anyone triggered by it, I'll give you a choice on how I could make it up to you.
A. Star an hero gif
B. Jackie coming back as a zombie and eating star
C. Kelly and Hekapoo dick teasing Marco.

Do you think any major non-villain characters will be dead by the end?

>>93201778
A please.

>>93201778
A or B

let's see Star die

>>93201778
B please

>>93201778
B

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>>93201799
Moon gonna die
screencap this for proof.

>>93201799
I WANT it to be Moon but that's not the same as thinking it will actually happen

>>93201799
Moon and jackie

They're not paying Grey Griffin enough

>>93201778
C, never enough thiccapoo

>>93201820
fuck off SUfag

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>>93201834
screencap anon over here being a faggot too.

>>93201778
Anyone that isn't a worthless ship obsessor would pick C

>>93201820
>>93201825
>>93201824

So why is Moon dying such a common prediction around here?

>>93201799
marco dies and then star's magical tears of friendship bring him back to life as a pink portal zombie

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>>93201104
She ok.

>>93201863
Maximum Star suffering and parents dying is a thing with Disney

>>93201778
OH SHIT C.

>>93201878
Lost an eye though

>>93201863
Moon is currently the better magic user and even described by Nefcy as Toffee's archnemesis. Yet clearly Star will have to fight him herself by the end; despite the many light episodes it is her "vs. the Forces of Evil."

What could happen to make Star view Toffee as her enemy, and remove the question of why Moon isn't just handling it herself?

Also I think Star having to be queen herself in the series proper opens up interesting story opportunities.

>>93201778
B

>>93201925
You mean she gets a cool eyepatch.

>>93201723
It's true that Star fucks up a lot and it comes back to bite her a lot. But in terms of relationships specifically (because the main source of Star's suffering is seeing Marco and Jackie), she didn't do anything wrong, she was just trying to be a good friend to Marco and Jackie. She brought it on herself, yes, but she genuinely thought she was doing the right thing (even at the expense of her own feelings). Where is the "justice" in that?

>>93201778
B, then Zombie Jackie and Zombie Star go dick tease Marco

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>>93201778
Please draw Star killing herself while watching Marco eating out Jackie

>>93201950
>she didn't do anything wrong
besides hook Marco and Jackie up.

>>93200998
My best answer is that she moved.
>Better screencap this

>>93201955
nice dubs

>>93201778
B and then A happen brutally

Marco end up with Janna

>>93201981
What a cop out

>>93201778
this >>93201953

We've got enough Heka teasing Marco.

There's very little of both Star and Jackie teasing Marco.

>>93201964
As I said, she was just trying to be a good friend to Marco and Jackie, even at the expense of her own feelings. She was being the opposite of selfish. The suffering is unjust.

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why is toffee so hot?

wheres that dude that likes ajj im calling you out

>>93201981
Yeah, she was getting bullied so hard that her dad almost moved. Instead the teacher called a parental mediation session. Just her, her dad, the tormentor, and the tormentor's foster mother. They all ganged up on her so hard that her dad moved.

>>93201878
>wooden stick ice cream
Lucky!

>>93200998
>>93201475
>>93201672
Jackie most likely is going to show up maybe not as much. We don't see Mr and Mrs Diaz in the new opening either, so by everyone's logic something is going to happen with them.

Most likely after seeing Star's confession they will admit they don't have feelings for each other anymore. They whole lovely dovey stuff was just an act so they felt their loveless marriage meant something. They are divorcing and while sorting everything out, are sending Marco to live with the Butterflies, while they figure out who gets custody of him and such.

>>93202094
I think it's frozen yogurt, as requested by
>>93201297
>>93201354

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>>93201955
Witnessed

Ok voting is closed. I haven't counted yet but I really would like to not derail the thread. So I'll be back later.

On topic response;
I'm not too sure how I should take this new intro. It's certainly interesting that Jackie isn't included.

Marco's cape puts him in the same spectrum with Auggie Farks. Or should I go with the interpretation that Marco us just chilling in Mewni full time?

Man did I fall out of love with Kelly. I'm not happy to see her front and center. Unless she ditches Tad for good, she THOT status.

Huh should be a regular.

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In retrospect Moon's reaction at the end of Storm the Castle to "my enemy from decades ago suddenly returned from out of nowhere, threatened my child, destroyed the cornerstone of our dynasty, and will almost definitely come back to target us once again because he's infamously unkillable" seems a bit underplayed. She seems almost more concerned about the cleaved wand, and even that's kind of forgotten about on her part until the end of S2 (she sure didn't seem to do anything about locating the missing wand crystal during the 90 days it took Ludo to stumble upon it, despite actually having an approximate idea of where it might have ended up).

Her reaction seems more along the lines of "well, that was bad but at least it's over now and you're safe." Not even really a strained façade of calm like in Raid the Cave, except in relation to the wand. Forget the end of Starcrushed; you'd think she would've hauled Star back to Mewni right then before it even got to that point.

Not actually criticizing anything; just an observation. It's the kind of thing where you can see how the development of a more serious plot and extensive character histories/conspiracies works pretty well when watching in order, but doesn't seem to fit together completely when you look back.

Despite that episode setting up a lot of future stuff probably they still hadn't entirely decided on the backstories etc. they'd be working with later on.

>>93202017
>She was being the opposite of selfish
she pushed Marco away towards someone and now feels shitty that she can't have Marco.
I never stated that she was being selfish, I never stated any reasoning at all for why she set up Marco and Jackie.
But she did it, so she deserves the consequences that come from that.
Now she has zero way of not hurting someone.

either she gives up and moves away saving Marco and Jackie's feelings while hurting herself and Marco by destroying their friendship
or
she tries to push Jackie out which destroys Marco's relationship and hurts Jackie, when she is the only reason they are together in the first place.

Regardless of her intentions this is the path she's chosen and these are the consequences she deserves.

Jackie has done literally nothing wrong to deserve suffering.

>>93200998
>people make fun of Jarco that Jackie isn't in the intro

>meanwhile smooth Tom is going to steal Star and cuck Starco fags

>>93202156
>Or should I go with the interpretation that Marco us just chilling in Mewni full time?

My guess is that he's going to spend the summer (or at least part of it) in Mewni.

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>"I dislike Jackie"

>>93202201
>implying Star won't purposely try to flirt with Tom to make Marco jealous
>implying Tom won't notice and get turned off/call her out for her bullshit

I can see it now

>>93202264
wtf I want this to happen now

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>>93202201
He's gonna join the Starcuckers crew and steal Marco, son

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>>93201761
>Jarco even being a thing
Mid-series relationship drama isn't unusual at all.
The unusual thing is Star being responsible for setting it up and Jackie living up to Marco's image of her and not just being a shallow bitch.

I cannot understand how people get into this mindset.
"I don't want Starco to happen because the male and female lead getting together is cliché" despite the fact that the way this show's relationships have played out is anything but conventional, even if it's smooth sailing for the SS Starco from here out (and it certainly will not be).
And at the same time "It would be good if Starco doesn't happen because it would teach Star a valuable lesson about ~growing up~ and how life is not always happy and perfect" as though that isn't EVEN MORE of a cliché element in this kind of story, all the way back to the fucking Epic of Gilgamesh.

To me it seems very clear that we're ultimately going to see Star earn her happy ending. I don't see why that should take away from anyone's enjoyment of the rollercoaster ride to get there.

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>>93202299
the only acceptable endgame

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>>93202299
He won't, he'll be stolen first.

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>>93201955
I want pictures! Pictures of Toffee!

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>>93202156
>Or should I go with the interpretation that Marco us just chilling in Mewni full time?
The intro shows that Marco's room is a part of Butterfly Castle now, just like Star's situation was.

Kelly is a blank slate and seems pretty cute and sporty, hopefully they can make her interesting sooner than later but at least she can't be worse than Pony Head.

>>93201014
Well played.

>>93202201
Even with Tom having chilled out and being bros with Marco now, Star still can't stand to even speak to him. Much more likely that Tom would steal Marco away from Star.

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>>93201597
>late capitalism

>>93202221
No one with a brain will disagree

>>93201950
>the main source of Star's suffering is seeing Marco and Jackie
Not really, I'd say she suffers from having broken the wand, lost the spellbook and Glossaryck and having fucked over her family's standing and caused a riot, too

Besides, she deliberately pushed Marco together with Jackie even after she realised she's crushing on him. She got jealous in Bon Bon to the point of causing an accident, but still after that continued to push them together, instead of having an introspective moment and thinking about her feelings.

And they got together. She got the end result she actively tried to make happen. The justice is in that once again, she didn't think about the consequences, didn't really think about what was going on, tried to deal with possibly unpleasant stuff with her trusted method of "ignore it till it goes away", and that shit bit her in the ass because that's a fucking disastrous method.

The justice is that she should really learn to think about what she's doing and what the consequences will be. She does a lot of dumb, destructive shit, because she "thinks it's the right thing" and actually doesn't bother to think shit through. Like in Face the Music, where she thought that being herself and showing who she really is is more important than following tradition or her mom's instructions, and didn't actually think at all about what sort of a reaction the song would cause.

She doesn't fucking think about the consequences of anything, this is a big-ass problem, and it's justice that this flaw of hers is shown to fuck her over in many fronts, both her and her family's public image and her personal love life and friendships.

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>>93202356
Kelly isn't exactly a blank slate. Do you not recall the episode where she was binging on goblin dogs(a confirmed hallucinagen) . I can't respect her after that kind of dependency.

>>93201778
B

>>93202356
They can't make her more boring than Jackie, that's for sure

>>93202144
Oh i didn't even know someone requested it, i just drew it and i can confirm it is ice cream.

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>>93202034
Born perfect
Born different
Born better
I'm not like you, I'm a...
Born lover
Born living
And I know, I'm
I'm not like you, I was...
Born clever
Born knowledgeable
Born better than your best
I swear I'm a born killer
Born thriller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpG4t54g2fk

>>93202312
>I cannot understand how people get into this mindset.
>"I don't want Starco to happen because the male and female lead getting together is cliché" despite the fact that the way this show's relationships have played out is anything but conventional, even if it's smooth sailing for the SS Starco from here out (and it certainly will not be).
>And at the same time "It would be good if Starco doesn't happen because it would teach Star a valuable lesson about ~growing up~ and how life is not always happy and perfect" as though that isn't EVEN MORE of a cliché element in this kind of story, all the way back to the fucking Epic of Gilgamesh.

Not to mention the contrarians seem not to realize that "dorky nice guy wins over his more popular childhood crush" is a cliche in its own right. The idea that Jarco is some cliche-busting scenario is without any basis in reality.

>>93201878
I want to protect that smile

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>>93202324
Elder god -tier ship

>>93202326
>Jantomfags actually thinking their ooc au crackship will happen
I doubt the writers will change both characters enough to make them get along

>>93202429
>Besides, she deliberately pushed Marco together with Jackie even after she realised she's crushing on him. She got jealous in Bon Bon to the point of causing an accident, but still after that continued to push them together, instead of having an introspective moment and thinking about her feelings.
>And they got together. She got the end result she actively tried to make happen. The justice is in that once again, she didn't think about the consequences, didn't really think about what was going on, tried to deal with possibly unpleasant stuff with her trusted method of "ignore it till it goes away", and that shit bit her in the ass because that's a fucking disastrous method.
That was Star putting being a good friend above her own desires. She "knew" that Marco would never feel the same way about her, so she tried to do what was best for him. The problem was that her feelings for Marco go way deeper than she was willing to admit, and there was no way she could just bury them and make them go away. Also it's about 90% certain she was wrong in thinking Marco would never feel the same way about her.

>>93202177
It seems like a combination of "Star doesn't like telling the whole truth to her mother, and even if she wants to she's not good at explaining things and doesn't know what could be important" and "Moon can be just as stubborn as Star about handling things on her own."

You'd think Star would have mentioned that Ludo had the other half of her wand, and that Moon wouldn't have taken half a season (possibly several months of time) to make any effort to recover her family's sacred powerful heirlooms and rescue the avatar of magic from some shitbird.

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>>93202558
it's practically already canon

>>93202623
He also tweeted #Marcapoo after RwS aired.

In general he just likes the bantz.

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>>93202431
Hey man, Star is dependent on touching Marco more frequently and intimately than is socially acceptable for teenage platonic friends, and Jackie is dependent on pizza nuggets. Nobody's perfect.

>>93202623
Everyone knows that Adam is the no.1 Starcofag who ships it like crazy, though. Even other members of the crew make jokes about how no-one in the world ships starco harder than Adam. It's plainly obvious that for him, it's Star 4eva, now and always. It's not exactly news.

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>>93202623
Adam is literally /ourguy/ and as close to his waifu as any 3D man could ever be.
Living the dream.

>>93202720
>Adam is literally /ourguy/ and as close to his waifu as any 3D man could ever be.
Adam is not Jake "jared" JewGold

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>>93202624
Also it's not gay at all if it's just practicing between bros, you know.
A real bro helps his bro learn to be a better kisser, for example. Gotta learn that tongue action, you know, would be embarrassing to not know what you're doing, you know

>>93202413
It's a quote

>Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control (Simon Pegg)

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>>93202720
>"as close to his waifu as any 3D man could ever be"
>forgetting about this

>>93202751
For some reason you reminded me of the hot tub episode of SouthPark.

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>that subtle change of Evil from Red to Purple. What did they mean by this?

>>93202755
and if you want conspiracies, late stage capitalism is actually a bastardization of capitalism created by socialists who then blame the problems they created on capitalism which allows them to sucker folks into socialism which gives the socialists who are "in the know" more power (and tax money).

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>>93202751
>tfw you practiced kissing with other boys as a kid, pretending they were girls

It's not fun to remember

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>>93202558
oh no Janna will drive Tom completely crazy, even more so than she drives Marco

and that's exactly what Tom likes

>>93201542
Because adults are fragile creatures and need continual reassurance that giving up on their dreams was the right thing to do.

Children can accept anything - but why should THEY be happy?

>>93202602
One of the storyboarders said Moon hadn't actually told Star the wand was cleaved (so Star knows it's broken but not that there's a specific missing piece out there), and apparently neither Ludo nor Star recognized their wands came from the same source. Which is weird considering they both obviously have half a star, but I can still buy it because it's Ludo and Star.

And Moon at least taking forever to do anything about the missing spellbook is believable too, going by how she seems to not tell anyone anything.

But Star must have specifically told Moon it was Toffee going by how Moon knows just mentioning he's back will be enough to get Star to leave Earth. I can sort of understand letting Ludo have the book for a couple weeks before actually searching for it because, again, Ludo, but letting Star return to Earth the first time after already encountering Toffee seems weirdly optimistic.

Looking back on that episode I can see how in the first season/maybe some of the second I believed Star hadn't told Moon all the details of what happened or Moon didn't have specific history with Toffee, because that ending just seems so light or something compared to the consequences later.

>>93202837
>It's not fun to remember
probably makes you hard doesn't it

>>93202034
>TrapMarcoxToffee
Never knew i wanted it

>>93202812
Blue (Star) + Red (Evil) = Purple

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>>93202812
>All of Star's magic is purple based from the new intro
>Even her Butterfly form is purple
>Old title had the word Star purple like in pick related
>The entity that made the deal with Moon was purple.

Star really is the Darkest Spell.

>>93202842
Proof?

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>>93202837
>>93202787
There's nothing wrong with a bit of experimentation between friends, anon. It doesn't count if it's practicing.

>>93201014
ahahaha fpbp

>>93202824
Socialism has nothing to do with taxation. Maybe you mean welfare but that's social democracy, which born as an attempt to improve the worker's live conditions for stopping communism.

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>>93202734
>>93202773
>forgetting about this
Oh I'd love to
I'd still say Adam has the edge, Blossom is purely a character but Star is basically Nefcy's idealized 2D self, and Adam is her friend and coworker. He even gets to ink-suit act with her as her other self-insert. It's a level of real connection transcending both 2D and 3D, beyond his control.

>>93202867
what that Tom likes girls that drive him crazy?

Did you think he was into Star because they got along so well? No he's into girls that completely drive him up a wall

>>93202773
Nefcy having Starfan getting together with Marco when?

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How big of a shitstorm would it be if Nefcy doesn't make Starco canon? Would she get death threats?

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>>93202751
and then we get our happy ending!

>>93202720
He can't beat Jared in this game.

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>>93202852
It just makes me sad that I never found a gf, so my only kissing experience was practice with guys

>>93202842
>that's exactly what Tom likes
Yeah that's why he's needs a support system with a pro mental health therapist in order to try to change himself, because he likes being driven crazy and getting enraged so much, it's not like it's ruining his social life at all, ha ha he'd totally get along great with a chick whose biggest (only) defining characteristic is that she likes to mess with people for shits and giggles, her destroying his efforts to improve his mental health and become a better person time after time would be hilarious

Just like an alcoholic trying to get sober just needs a gf who'd push him into drinking because he's so hilarious when he's shitfaced and making a fool of himself, and besides he clearly loves to drink lel

your fanfic headcanons aren't fact, anon

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>>93202894
>Socialism has nothing to do with taxation
Anon don't make me break out my /pol/Stars

>>93202927
I'd laugh my ass off.
>NaruSaku
is the shittiest ship I've ever heard of.

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>>93202773
>waifuing a 6 year old girl
>making it public and canon for entire world to see

>>93202867
There's no proof. That same jantomfag has been spouting his headcanons as fact before, he's just decided that Tom loves getting angry because it makes his ship plausible

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>>93202842
>tumblr

>>93202959
I think you're taking a cartoon's mental health a bit too seriously

especially when Star already told us that Mewman Therapy is literally throwing people in a catapult, I doubt Brain has any clue what he is talking about

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>>93202812
>>93202866
>Star's wand was flashing purple in the first 2 seconds of intro as well.

>>93203015
>>93202866
>>93202812
Star. vs
vs
Star and

is the main difference.

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>>93202927
Well they were as salty Ichiruki fags who burned their collection because Rukia didn't end up with Ichigo.

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>this will never happen to us

how can you handle this, /co/?

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>>93202927
Straight from the heart, ooh damn

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>>93203079
>you will never hold a fat ugly cosplayer in your life
feels good man

>>93202842
>Janna will treat Tom, someone she has never met, the same way she treats Marco, someone she has known all her life

Either Jantomfags have no idea how humans actually function, or they're wannabe Mannafags who can't ship Manna because they have to want to pair Marco with Star.

>>93203109
S A V A G E
by fat, you mean the Marco cosplayer, right?

>>93203079
>tfw get long hugs from all my female friends

feels good man.

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How do I stop caring about Jackie for my own mental health

>>93203012
I don't know, Tom's quest for improving his mental health is central enough for his character that Nefcy brought it up in an interview around the time he was first introduced
>He sounds cool but he also has a vulnerability there and that’s what we really saw in Tom. Tom is the devil prince, so I imagine he has this royal father who is this anger demon. So Tom has inherited that but he also wants to get over it. He doesn’t want that to be his identity.
https://ohmy.disney.com/insider/2015/07/20/creator-daron-nefcy-guides-us-through-tonights-star-studded-episode-of-star-vs-the-forces-of-evil/

Sure he's used as the butt of a lot of jokes and is also a self-centred douche who deserves to be knocked down a peg or two, but I feel the show also legit recognises his challengs and doesn't want to turn him into a total joke who's kicked around for laughs, as would inevitably happen if he got with Janna. Unless Janna was totally rewritten, of course

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>>93203015
>Star's wand was flashing purple in the first 2 seconds of intro as well.

>Left side is blue like Star's name, right side is purple like Evil

It's pure POETRY

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>>93202857
I always did but no one listened to me
both marcoxtoffee and starxtoffee are criminally rare ships

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>>93202867
Jantom is a garbage ship but this is what people usually point to:
>Tom: "You think this is cheating? You should try playing Star at ping-pong."
>Marco: "Well, Star doesn't really cheat, she just makes up her own rules."
>Tom: "And then she changes the rules again halfway through the game."
>Marco: Oh, so that's why I never win."
>Tom: "She just does whatever she wants."
>Marco: "Yeah, that's Star."
>Tom: "Yeah. She is kinda awesome."

Jantomfags interpret this scene as meaning Tom was interested in Star because she does shit that pisses him off, completely missing the point that Tom is saying Star is appealing because she's a free spirit who just acts on her wants and feelings, something that's echoed by the other plotline in this episode of Star freaking out over her inevitable Queenhood that will restrict that freedom.
Tom finds Star's free spirit attitude appealing because he's a control freak. Whether that's because he wants (or wanted) to bend her to his will, or he envies her happy-go-lucky attitude, or for some other reason is up to interpretation.

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>>93203144
Damn. I used to get them all the time too. Sadly those times are gone.

>>93203156
Fap to that JLullaby comic again

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>>93203156
The closest I've ever had to what people say is a waifu is wanting a real GF who physically resembles and acts similar to a character and accepting that as my type.

I've had friends who bought a body pilow with their waifu on it and pretended to have conversations with them in their head.

on a scale from 1 to 10 1 being my scenario, 10 being my friends scenario + planning a murderspree where are you?

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>>93203156
You can't
look at her, look at how cute her excitement is
We can all feel the pain together when she gets dumped ;___;

post liggers

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>>93203234
>DANCE WITH ME DUDES
You can't help but love her

>>93200998

>Note: Jackie died on the way back to her home Planet.

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>>93202812
>>93203172
>The whole intro has her using half blue, half purple magic

Star really is Moon's darkest spell, and making her half Darkness/evil

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>>93203156
If you really care about her, the feelings never really go away.

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>>93203242

>>93203195
Yeah, it's an interesting juxtaposition.
He kind of admires Star for doing what she wants because he himself is such a control freak, but at the same time it pisses him off.
He was still so salty about Star shitting all over the rules in fucking ping pong he was griping about it to Marco even though they'd been broken up for months by that time. In BMB he was constantly about to get mad at Star because she didn't want to follow his elaborate plan for the perfect evening; didn't wanna wear the headpiece he'd picked out for her, didn't wanna get drenched in unicorn blood, nagged at him for getting tense etc. Things not going according to plan or rules getting broken is clearly something he can't deal with. He couldn't even deal with the dance song for the Blood Moon not being the one he'd chosen

>>93203242
>>93203348
Here's your home: >>>/trash/

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>>93203242
>>93203389
If we have any drawfags lurking I'd love to see Monstar in a trash can or dumpster.
Or maybe wearing a garbage bag.

>>93203547
i'd love to see your suicide

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>>93203592
Well that's just uncalled for

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Hey, anyone have moringmark's patreon comic with Star being a complete autist on the computer? I need it for reasons.

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>>93203547
midnightstep might do it

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>>93203267
She's always been half evil

>>93203259
That's why I'm signing this sworn affidavit that Jackie will never, ever, ever return!

Did anyone notice how the wand's crystal glows blue?

>>93201098
Jackie will save Marco revealing she is a merman

>>93203389
>>93203592
I love how I and anyone else can just summon you from the depths with the slightest provocation. You're like Barneyfag with less creativity.

>>93203792
See >>93202812
>>93203172

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>>93203834
It's perfect
How does a girl get cucked to death?

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>>93201955
>Mr. dubs lizard

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>>93203739

>>93203834
oh snap forgot to sign this.

B. won.
going to be a comic.

>>93203267
is that the Lich and Ravens father?

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>>93203547
>maybe wearing a garbage bag

this is the closest I've got

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>>93204046
That's a really good one
I was thinking something like the equivalent of this though

>>93204019
It's Queen Eclipsa's bull. She just drew some doodles of him in the book.

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>>93204019
No, it's Eclipsa's crush and future second husband

aw she doodled pics of her honey in the book

Animation on the new intro sucks. It's a very noticeable downgrade from the original.

I'm going to be honest and say that I started watching because of the animation, now I'm staying for the plot. It still kind of sucks how much it has changed though.

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>>93204271
Yyyyyep. It is indeed very noticeable. But to be honest, I'd watch it in Storyboard form if I had to. And still be happy about it.

>>93204142
>>93204234

Can someone post the movie poster?

>>93204271
Is it me or does she smile too much/weirdly?

>>93204271
There is a version with improved audio synch and it "looks"/feels better.

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>>93204347
>movie poster
the what now? Do you mean Eclipsa's tapestry from the episode?

>>93204271
the animation is worse, but it looks extra bad if your watching a version with desynced audio, which many of them are

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>>93204271
Obviously Mercury Filmworks would always be preferable but the Koreans are mostly fine.
Mostly.

>>93204350
Star has a pretty static "looking forward and smiling" expression for most of the intro, which is really weird because they took the animate Marco looking around and reacting to everything at the same time Star should be.
It's most noticeable in the Goblin Dogs part.

>>93202773
>(((Goldman)))
>that nose

>>93204271
It doesn't bother me because it looks like the show's looked for a couple years now.

And I dunno if it's just the writing quality of S2 keeping people from noticing, but it never consistently looked great.

>>93204350
It's because she's finally got Marco living on Mewni, so she can use her royalty to legally rape him.

The season 3 opening, in case someone hasn't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R7gUGbI6m8

Yeah Star has this reall weird fixed grin on her face

>>93203983
looking forward to it

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>>93204480
Better video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7tNU3YUE

>>93204398
There is a photo of a real-life, framed poster. It is done in the style of a 50's(?) love story and shows Eclipsa and her bull. It was probably made for the art gallery.

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>>93204480
>Yeah Star has this reall weird fixed grin on her face

>>93202177
Maybe they didn't think they'd go down this route.

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>>93204480
she's really trying, ok

>>93204585
Yeah, I think they had plans for darker/more serious plots in the next season (last shot obviously sets up for Ludo in the Wild so I think that at least was planned out), but I think the Moon/Toffee plot they're going with now wasn't entirely defined in their minds at that time. Just hard to believe Moon had personal history with him when she apparently gives so little of a fuck that he came back and now is focusing on Star, while her not knowing him beforehand makes more sense if she's thinking "well at least now he's gone."

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>>93204398
HA! Found it.

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It's only the natural progression of the slippery slope.
from Cuck to Depression to Tables and now Suicides.

>>93204856
Pffft, good thing only a few people are on that slope, everyone else is fine and dandy.

>>93203192
Not many fujo shippers on western cartoon fanbases

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Please take a moment to describe cute things you would like to do with Hekapoo.

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>>93205188
I would like to thank her for the scissors and then visit my waifu.

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>>93204512
Thanks.

Damn Tom's looking mighty fine
why is he so hot, why

>>93201981
Yeah, we'll get a 30 minute special where her mom tells her that she has to move away from her town to be with her relatives.

>>93205218
See if we can use her head flame as a magical firework, and go around town scaring people with it

Making jewelry in a forge

Interdimensional tag matches

tickle fights

Roasting marshmallows

>>93204512
If her wings are insectoid, wouldn't that crush them?

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>>93205451
I get the impression that they're made of magic. They don't grow until Mewberty, they're retractable, and they don't actually flap or anything to fly.
Moon's wings take a lot of punishment when she fights Toffee, they're nowhere near as fragile as real butterfly wings.

>>93205188
Sodomy.

>>93201542
Hero's Journey stuff.

Look it up, there are explanations, but i never really bothered to get into it myself.

>>93201330
I'm guessing they liked her and the fan reactions were good so they decided to develop her further.

Gotta say seeing her running around with that sword makes me excited for more.

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>>93205188
I would mating press her thicc body, plunging it in to the hilt while I drain my balls into her fertile womb

Not enough people are mentioning how cute Kelly is in her ending pose

>>93205188
Make real snazzy looking scissors

Scare people by making a flamethrower out of her head flame and an aerosol can

S'mores

cuddle by the glow of the forge after a hard days work of forging, with gentle neck kissing and slow but deep vaginal intercourse

>>93200998
>Looks: Star
>Brains: Marco
>Wildcard: Kelly
>Muscle: Tom
>Useless Chick: Janna

Seems about right

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>>93205671
I want to make lots of hekalolis!

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>>93205188

>>93205782
>obnoxious bitch: Pony Head
>thin air: Jackie

>>93201761
>and Jarco even being a thing is one of the ways that Nefcy does so
I can think of like 5 shoujo/romcom manga that have a confirmed pairing in the middle of the series only for the ending to be something else, usually the main girl/guy. Hell, doesn't this happen on practically every single teen drama?

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>>93201014
>some characters take turn holding the camera for the group photo
>Jackie doesnt mind
Literally /ourgirl/

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>>93201014

>>93205631
I really don't think they develop the characters based on fan reactions, pretty sure they make the episodes way earlier than that.

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>>93202034
SCALED

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>>93203242
Ligger is here now

>>93205631
>>93206155
Yeah, the animatic for this theme song was supposedly made July 2016 while Goblin Dogs aired that October. The entire S2 was finished storyboard-wise by about March.

The Battle for Mewni episodes might have all been boarded before S2 even aired.

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>>93205188
cuddle
play with her ears

>>93202312
>>93202508
>Marco automatically breaking up with the crush of his life after a new girl pops up is good writing

Starcofags...

>>93205188
I wanna make a pair of scissors with Hekapoo for arts and crafts. :3

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>>93201494
>[smirk]

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>>93206389
Well obviously, if Fergusson revealed his crusah on Marco then obviously he would also break up with Jackie, right? This is how it work

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>>93206389
2/10

>>93206389
It's typical for shipfags to write fanfiction.

Shipping is itself fantasies based around romance, similar to AUs except people feel more strongly about them.

what if star caught on fire

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>>93205631
Yep, everyone's just full of untapped potential

>>93206631
I mean this show is really a perfect example of that

Tom, Janna and Jackie were all barely characters in season 1 and after season 2 they were quite fleshed out

who says they can't do the same with Kelly

>>93206697
The difference is people appreciate it when it's people they like such as Tom and Janna, and cheer it on with blank slates like Kelly.

With Jackie, they downplay or deny what she did get, then just want to see her go away, with no chance to even try and be interesting

>>93206369
Fuck, why haven't i drawn that yet.

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>>93206740
ear playing is an acquired taste

>>93202751
Can't let these thotties catch you slipping, my guy. Need to make sure your browser knows what he's doing.

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>>93206802
lucky for Marco, he was never caught slippin

>>93207342
>first instinct is to get a better view

Will Star redeem Ludo? In intro she seemed a bit sad looking at him.

>>93206731
In Jackie's case, the amount doesn't match up with the role she has now.

>with no chance to even try and be interesting
I just don't see what role she would have to play
>But what about Janna
I don't know why she's there either but she's been in more episodes than Jackie and is part of her friends club. Heck, all of Star's friend club minus Starfan are there

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So I ain't doing anything of my own and need to stay up. Gonna TRY and take some requests.

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>>93206802
Yeah, can't let your brodum go out there unprepared and possibly make a fool of himself, right? Ya gotta have his back, make sure he has the skills to make a good impression, and make double sure he gets enough practice to polish those skills to perfection.

>>93207477
Marco walking in on Star making out with Jackie

>>93207477
In the spirit of the thread can we have some Tom and Marco practicing makeouts while furiously trying to no homo their face sucking and groping

>>93207477
A lewd-faced Moon in lingerie and hair down watching Marco sleep (since he lives in her castle now).

>>93207477
River eating a bag of Nachos ad getting caught by Moon

>>93207477
Something involving Star's glowing cheeks

>>93207477
Tom hanging himself with a picture of star on the floor

Jackie gets way too much attention

>>93207477
This >>93207549, but with Moon dressed as Angie, assuming that he would miss fugging his mum.

>>93207477
Tom's Reaction to the video game D00M

>>93207477
River training Marco how to fight by giving him a spear and pushing him into a bear pit

I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that we didn't get anything new in this intro. We have slight costume changes for some characters but that's about it. We don't get any new characters or locations. Isn't that strange?

Someone redpill me on the teaser trailer for season Three. What have we got?

>>93207705
Just watch. It's a short clip.

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>>93207477
A parody of pic related, but instead it's Star saying "you have to eat all the corn" to Marco.

>>93207703
Means they want the new stuff to actually be a surprise.

Though technically the first intro didn't really show us much that wasn't featured in the first and second episodes already (dimensional scissors, Tom, Pony Head, Ludo, school characters, general premise); even the cast image at the end was mostly background characters that were of little real importance that season. It's only the second season cast image that actually showed some characters who played roles, and even then left out some like the MHC etc.

though I'd say if Marco living in the palace is actually canon and not just an animation shortcut, that's kind of a minor spoiler at least

>>93207804
this please

>>93207703
>>93207705
I feel like this is a pretty big change>>93202812 especially going along with these >>93202866
>>93203015
>>93203172
>>93203267

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>>93201597
*BRAAAAP*

>>93207804
seconding

>>93203807
Considering svtfoe's main viewership are tumblrinas, Jarco would become the most popular ship by a wide margin

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any drawfag willing to draw this pairing, or toffeexmarco (with or without crossdressing marco)?

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>>93206768
>>93206369
Floating hands.

>>93207977
those master hands are lewd as fuck

>>93207882
I'll never understand how alt-righters can connect welfare to socialism. I mean, on actual socialist regimes there's no place for weaklings and zero compassion for the non-productives.

>>93203807
>>93201098
>Marco lost control over his monster arm for saving Star
>They say if a monster and a mewni touch each other, all life on the Mewni kingdom will disappear.
>Suddenly a trident come from the sea and pierce Marco's body, turning him back to normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzYU3sRuXG4

>>93204046
Is that River who's molesting her?

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>>93207974
I can't say I actually ship it but it's baffling to me that there's so little Star/Toffee stuff out there,

you'd think there'd be more appeal from the "creepy adult villain harasses cute teenage girl" aspect

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>>93208108
river isnt a heartless barbarian anon

>>93208183
But if Moon broke his heart...

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>>93208183
>tfw i want to have River's musclefat body

>>93207977
Yow.

>>93208224
>tfw i want to fuck Brittney's chubbyfat body

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>Well, lets see if this thread will slip

>>93208034
>You have fallen for the alt-right meme

It doesn't exist. It is a meme word created for the purpose of hindering political discussion and as a Boogeyman for the normies. Spencer and other e-celebs are just controlled opposition. Also don't mix An-Cap's with (((alt-right))).

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>>93208215
Then River can pound all the other Valkyries in Mewhalla and the Johanson kingdom will thank him for it.

>>93208121
it's because the entirety of the star vs fandom is a bunch of SJWs that shit their pants if they come across something as silly as noncon handholding, let alone adult villain lizard x teenager girl hero (or boy/trap in marco's case)

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>>93208245
i'd love a gf who's chubbyfat who wants constant cuddles, i want river's body and strength so i could pick her up and run 10 miles back to her place in under 5 minutes

>>93208308
moon with her hair down is best moon, to be honest

>>93207477

Great drawings anon, could I get
Hekapoo cradling a baby sloth, Please.

>>93207477
Janna with a shark

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>>93208376
yeah, i can admit it.
Moon with her hair down is the best moon

>>93208368
yeah, I was gonna say it seems like Moon/Toffee is supposed to be the "safe" equivalent of that

except everyone still draws teenage Moon with adult Toffee, in which case what's the difference anymore

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>>93208408
this being canon in s3
actually i can writefag a little scenario of this to give it context if anyone likes?

>>93208490
DO IT

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I wonder if I will ever actually go anywhere with this sketch... I already decided to save it for another day, since my idea faded away while I was drawing it

>>93208490
>We're just having a little fun, Marco; it's normal for hosts to pleasure their guests on Mewni

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>>93208490
Do it anon

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>>93207804
ok... I want that too.

>>93208601
Mothers' Day episode when?

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>>93208490
>tfw Moon will never put you over her shoulder and whisk you away to Mewni as her concubine

>>93208686
We'll get it when Moon along with all the other wand bearers have a short bit of their past shown to the exact scene of their tapestries

Jackie teaching Buff Frogs tadpoles how to skateboard episode when?

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>>93208438
>tfw you will never witness as toffee makes both star and marco his slaves
>you will never see toffee force marco to wear dresses and make out with him in front of star as the ultimate form of cucking
>tfw this will never be popular in the fandom

>>93208730
I was thinking moreso Marco helping Star to set up some ridiculous Mother's Day celebration while forgetting his own mother in the process, but that's good too.

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>>93208801
>Toffee mindbreaking Marco into being his little princess and forcing Star to watch her friend being turned into her enemy's slutty cum-dump

Jackie and Janna both suck equally

>>93208885
It's like starcucks aren't even trying to decorate their b8 anymore

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>>93208885
>one corn has been deposited in your bank account

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>>93208884
it's no use anon, the fandom doesn't like this
we get some mild and shitty moonxtoffee instead because that's safe
>tfw toffee will never force star and marco to make out against their will
>tfw marco won't find out he loves the feeling of being forced to do stuff
feels bad man

>>93208916
No need to waste worms when the fish are biting the empty hook.

>>93203547
I'm just bored enough to do it