Secret Empire 4, WE WIFESLAPPERTRON NOW

>>93198934
When's Acuna getting back on art?

>>93198975
>different artists for headshots

triggering my ocd

>>93199006
I'm liking Natasha "The Boss" Romanova

>>93198999
Please kill Riri.

>>93199048
>Scott vs Eric
Yesss
Also I'm enjoying Yu's art on the Ultron parts, it reminds me of the Ultron future in Hickvengers's Time Gem arc

>>93198934
>WIFESLAPPERTRON
They're really never gonna let that go

>>93199029
Hank, no.

>>93199029
I thought they were teaming up with Ultron, why are they trying to steal from him.

>>93199067
He should've started spinning his staff like Tr-8-tr's baton

>>93198989
Also, over in the real world torture is a pretty effective way of getting people to tell whatever lie they can come up with.

>>93198999
>Fail so bad at a security frisk you miss the knife in boot
>In a room with Spider-man and a Viv Vision have to shoot the guy to death
Gud

>>93199083
>>93199095
Stark was right

>>93199083
>>93199095

The 'oomph' of this Cap vs.Tony thing is gone because its not really Tony. Fucking Bendis.

>>93199111
>Kiss the Overlord

Best new shirt since "I'm not Daredevil?"

>>93199111
>Kiss the overlord

Kek.

>>93198956
So this other Steve thing is definitely in Cap's mind, right? These two look way too much like Bucky and Sam for it not to be some subconscious thing.

>>93199083
>TETSUOOOOOOOO
>KANEDAAAAAAAA

>>93199083
How do you have an event that kills off Tony but still have him show up for the next one anyways? I'm convinced AI Tony was forced on Secret Empire by Bendis and others, because it feels really out of place.

>>93199133
Why does Chthon serve Hydra?

>>93199119
You've had it much worse Bobbi don't lie

>>93199173
>Hey Hank, remember that one time you had a mental breakdown?
You are now a horrible person forever, the mentally ill are awful!

>>93199173
Here we go...

>>93199133
>>93199143
Pymtron's words kind of ring hollow because this isn't your traditional hero vs hero event. One side are heroes, the other are mostly brainwashed villains.

>>93199111
> Kiss the Overlord

I can forgive the digital lettering for goofy stuff like this.

>>93199114
comic book writers have struggled with that concept for decades, and I doubt the situation's going to change anytime soon

>>93199191
This is so fucking stupid. I know Spencer wanted the real Tony but he either needs to ignore Bendis and just do it or just let it go. Wasp or Hawkeye could have replaced Not-Tony in this story.

>>93199133
Holy shit, Hank. You are not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

>>93199057
Why is Wanda on Cap's side again?

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>>93199276
Chthon

>>93199233
wtf does this even mean

>>93199245
>>93199114
Yeah, writers keep treating torture as a thing that works but is morally wrong, instead of like a thing that almost never works that's morally wrong.

>>93199114
depends on that what kind of torture are you using or to whom are you use against

>>93199269
It's Pietro, isn't it? He made it clear he only cares about his sister.

>>93199269

I liked this issue because it felt more like a filler issue for Avengers rather than part of a 10 issue event.

What I don't get is why none of the other comics even tying into this yet. It's been 5 months (including the 0 issue) and most are just doing their own thing. Which is nice but still pretty weird seeing this poor man's Dark Reign going on.

And I was hoping that Tony mentioning Jan was part of his plan to get free but it wasn't and Scott saved the day.

But really, did this have to be 10 issues?

>>93199269
obvs antman

>>93199288
Ultron wants the super heroes to kill each other off so he's giving the cube piece to the side that's losing to increase the odds of more conflict.

>>93199029
>Hank Pym is going to save the Avengers!
Pymtron is too precious

can someone explain to me what in the hell is going on?

>>93199173
Didn't Tony nearly kill the entirety of California like, two years ago now with some app? Slapping Jan is really worse than anything anyone else at the table has done? Wanda nearly wiped out an entire species for god's sake.

>>93199048
>>the one noboky liked

this is great.

>>93199358
thank you

>>93199111
the lettering on that apron looks out of place. A shame, really, the page would've been perfect otherwise

So Spencer undid all of Odinson's character development and made him willingly be a pawn in HydraCap's regime just to get his hammer back?

This is some Bendis-tier bullshit.

>>93199119
Tony "AI" BTFO

>>93199379
This is true. It makes very little sense. Better to just pull a "Thor was possessed" than this.

Why bother reading Marvel books if marvel writers and editors don't read marvel books?

>>93198985
>>93198989
>>93198999
>>93199006
by fill-in Joshua Cassara (a certain anon in the preview thread is right regarding the unlettered page not by Reis)


Smells like last-minute changes.

>>93198974
#8

>>93199379
That's what Hercules thinks, I'm sure it'll turn out to be something else.

>>93199133
I understand that Wanda has been possessed in the FCBD issue, but when was it stated that it was Chthon? Was it in a tie-in?

>>93199417
She says it during dinner when Quicksilver tries talking to her in this issue.

>>93199214
The New/Original Madame Hydra seems to be an Elder God too.

>>93199417
This is the first time we have confirmation that it's Chthon, but many fans already guessed it.

>>93199181
Spencer would remember Avengers Academy

>Last week, Marvel Comics published no Secret Empire comics.
If you count only the event comic itself, yes. If you count the tie-ins, no. Nice writing there Rich the Leech.

>>93198944
Why is Whirlwind's costume so bad?

>>93199362
In what way?

Is the point of this comic to remember us that the avengers are shit people and we shouldn´t like them at all?

While i get that wife beating would obvious had an effect on the avengers as a group... it kinda feels like the argument is... "you mass murderer mutants", "you brought up the disastrous registration", "you became a nazi and took control of america" and you beat your wife, this one time.

>>93199370
He didn't kill them, but he made most of San Francisco addicted to a "drug" of his, when hhe was AXIS-inverted. He was never inverted agian, actually, Superior Iron-Man ended as soon as Secret Wars began, and that hasn't been mentioned since.

>>93199173
again with this Jan meme...

>>93199458
I think it's more a "Hank pym was patient zero for fucked upedness" type thing.

It's like, we were all a happy family, then you beat your wife, dinner became awkward and it al snowballed from there.

>>93199379
>Thor
>On Hydra side.

I really need an explanation, because this does not make any sense.

>>93199017
Why would you wear those ridiculous earrings on a mission like this retard?

>>93199243
Didn't he die? Didn't Scott die as well?

>>93199472
It never happened. That Tony, the Superior, is dead fighting against old Cap. When the universe has been reformed, all that nonsense has been deleted ... I hope

This...was not the issue I was expecting.

>>93199485
In fact it's bullshit. Many characters have even rumbled without Hank's help. Tony above all, but nobody cares because he's too useful.

>>93199527
It's still canon. 616 was deleted in Secret Wars and had a soft-reboot.

I miss Hickman.

>>93199269
I guess....the only with a daughter.

>>93199568
Or the one with a sister currently in Hydra's grasp.

>>93199510

Namor was resurrected.

>>93199160
aw jeez

>>93199173
and there it is, every fucking time

I haven't been following anything Avengers much lately, but this whole event is confusing the hell out of me.
Did the entire world change the minute the outer space shield went up, or is there some cosmic cube making a pocket universe or doing some House of M shit?

>>93199560
Has anyone referenced it since the rebirth? It's possible when Reed remade it he undid that part.

>>93199640
There was a time skip and Hydra is also influencing the majority of the citizens with drugs in the water and a master of verbal mind control.

>>93199485

I don´t have the image here.

But that escalated quickly.

>>93199173
Sigh... I was really enjoying Hank-Tron until this

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>>93199648
>Reed undid certain things for everyone else
>He kept Hank slapping Jan in
The rivalry continues, I suppose

>>93199720
"Issues get delayed" struck.

>>93199720
This is no longer a bingo chart, it's a checklist.

>>93199006

I find it refreshing to see a bunch of dumb teenagers be wrong for a change rather than always being the smartest people in the room by merit of the fact that they're younger and less-experienced than everyone else.

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>>93199699
>Editing out stacked Cassie.

yeah, this is really in poor taste
most of them have done ridiculously worse things that what hank did, but they can look over those things, but not the slap, because?

>>93199029

This version of Ultron is so gruesomely perverse. I love it and hate it and love hating it.

>>93199048

Fuck you, Scott, I bought every issue of his series and didn't buy a single issue of yours. There. I said it.

>>93199243
The colotist fucked up, pure Atlanteans are supposed to be blue.

>>93199763
To be fair Tony is talking about the Avengers having family dinners. Nobody wants to have a family dinner with a wifebeater. All the fucked up things the other Avengers have done came after the Janet slap.

>>93199782
To be fair, the whole point is that in-universe nobody likes Eric O'Grady, that doesn't mean readers can't like him.

>>93199802
>one slap
>wifebeater
come on, come on

And really? I'm not huge on marvel, I tangentially follow it at best, but until hank slapped his wife no avenger ever did anything questionable?
Really?

>>93199243
>Spencer shilling for Anziz Ansari garbage Netflix show

All these pop culture references are fucking cancer

>>93199173
>that one time you slapped your wife is literally the worst thing any of us has ever done

jesus fucking christ

>>93199153
Okay, Scott, you deserved to get that dig in. You're entitled to that one.

>>93199833
He's a sexist white male aka LITERALLY Hitler.

t. Nick ''The myth of the good Republican'' SSpencer

>>93199181

Woah, okay! Didn't know Ultron could do that now that he's all Pym'ed up. That's a rude surprise.

>>93199568
>>93199584
Makes them two too obvious IMHO... Sam might still be Steve's bestest friend.

But I'm thinking Bobbi... for reasons...

>>93199111
This page alone makes up for half of this event's sins.

>>93199802
Yes, but it is precisely this hypocritical attitude of not forgiving and eternal rancor which then makes people unable to get out of their nightmares.

>>93199839

Oh, shush. There was a moment during season one of Master of None where the jokes kept coming at such a rate that I was literally laughing for like two solid minutes. I'd never seen comedic timing like that, that could just keep the laughter coming over and over and over again without ever letting up. It's solid stuff. What's even your problem with it?

God forbid Slapping a woman is worse than heroes in constant bitch fights, that are most of the time a male heroes beating a woman one.
those panels are garbage tier writing.

>>93198985
I'm really hoping that Frank is just pretending to be loyal and secretly plotting against Steve.

>>93199153
I actually laughed out loud.

But really, is it messed up that I'm wanting to side with Pymtron?

>>93199833
Absolutely yes, but writers often do not have this long time knowledge, and just working on clichés best known to the general public.

Surprised Spider Man isn't involved in this arc

>>93199175
Yes, and last issue we saw Sharon in this mindworld of his.

>>93199285
holy fuck ares is back

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>>93200012
Pymtron is unironically the good guy.

>>93199906
Think about this, because he's a robot, he is part of the suit and has even MORE control over the size changing.

>>93200035
Slott called dibs on Spider-Man for his own Secret Empire tie-in where SpOck tries to take down Parker Industries.

>>93199272
If it weren't Bendis writing, Pymtron should have stopped CW2

>>93200012
>But really, is it messed up that I'm wanting to side with Pymtron?

Nope, It was incredibly reasonable and see Tony and co use all their bigoted hatred as counter-argument was rather squalid. The problem is that what Tony thinks is shared by other characters, like Reed, who treat Hank always as a shit.

Way to go Scott.

Thanks, OP.

>>93199115
> implying she didn't deliberately left him the knife to shoot him later

>>93199214
This is a question you would think Pymtron would be asking.

>>93199153
>>93199160
>>93199173
>>93199181
>>93199191
I was worried for a bit but this is good.

>>93199133
Inebriated?! isn't he a computer program?

>>93200068
Oh, please, Otto, why you can't do good guy? And you've got a lot of develop. I would be happy to read again Superior. You do not have to be, necessarily, a Parker waifu. Just do the right thing.

>>93200157
Spencer clearly wrote all this with the real Tony in mind.

>>93200157
he was programmed to be drunk like Tony. It's incredibly stupid

>>93199746
God damn those titties

>Local self-hating robot turns into his father

one of the next titles should have some kind of invasion of Mutant New Tian, "Xorn" has one of the pieces.

>>93199485
But of course they're all conveniently push the fact that he was mentally unstable and Jan manipulated him into marriage under the rug.

>>93199458
And of course don't forget treating both Carol and Bobbi badly, giving the former to her rapist son whatever without objection and giving the latter shit for killing her rapist.

Face the facts everyone, the Avengers are a shithole group of assholes. And even now people still wonder why even the most mediocre of Justice League stories beat them in sales.

>>93199091
/co/ isn't? Yeah, absolutely not. /co/ is going to keep repeating and then pretending it's everyone else repeating it for fucking ever.

>>93199029
ah yes, Pym trying to save the Avengers. This is going to end well This is all I'm here for

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>>93199133
>Tony programmed an AI to simulate his drunkenness so well it can't even control newer, more complex models of his armor

This is easily the dumbest thing I've read all year.

>>93199075
love the Giant-Man v Giant-Man

>>93199111
This really feels like Yellowjacket Pym.

>>93199075

I really love this page. As a Langfag, so nice to see him get some spotlight in the comics

>>93199119
Finally! FINALLY get to see Pym BTFO Tony

>>93200491
Until Pymtron hits back even harder

>>93200043
He was brought back in Contest of Champions.

>>93200169
Yup, too late to change it.
As a writer, you'd have to alter too much, just alter a few lines and continue with a new visual.

>>93199173
Fuck you Tony, you do worse all the fucking time.

does anybody have the page where Cap is dreaming about putting mutants in camps?

>>93199202
Thank you Lang.

This actually is a really good follow up for them after Ant-Man Annual

>>93199358
It's not Ultron, it's Pym

>>93199173
I'm just gonna come out and say it. Jan totally deserved it. She's a total cunt.

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>>93199006
YOU FUCK WHEN PUNISHER KILLS RIRI

>>93199029
I chuckled. Good ole pymtron

>>93199173
Oh fuck off

Has anyone in Marvel actually read that arc? Habk pym has a legit mental breakdown, the kind you don't get out of, that wwas tge cause of everything that happened between him, jan and the team

I was legit enjoying this until this happened. Fuck marvel.

>>93199648
Well, AXIS still happened, and Creed was still inverted post Secret Wars so I don't see why it wouldn't have happened. Tony just got revived as no longer being inverted when Reed remade the world, but his stint as Superior Tony still happened.

>>93199083
Black ant >scott
Odinson > Herc
Taskmaster >that bitch
Scarlett Witch > Qicksilver
Vision >>>>>>>> Sam

Jeez...

>>93200624
I wouldnt say she deserved it, but Tony and the others were acting as if he gave her a sustained beating instead of a slap in the heat of the moment that he regretted for years to come. Its bad but it doesnt come close to creating a genocidal robot.

>>93199906
Yeah, he was able to survive getting thrown into the sun by shrinking down to sub-atomic levels, so he still has all of Pym's powers.

>>93199214
Cthon wants the pussy, and the pussy serves hydra

>>93199211
>he gave everyone dessert
>Lang got the cube fragment
Ha! Good ol' Pym.

>>93199503
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

>>93199251
>>93199260
So does Zemo have a purpose other than being armcandy for Steve? What even is his job in Steve's Hydra?

>>93200617
t. Ultron

>>93200355
>giving the latter shit for killing her rapist.
Taking the recent retcon to account, they had every right to give her shit. Actually they had every right to send her to jail for fucking murder.

>>93199568
They're all serving cap. Quicksilver with Wanda, Antman with daughter, Sam because friendship, Hercules and Bobbie somehow, Tony's AI is also hacked,

>>93199285
So is doctor strange good or not?

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>it's a "domestic abuse is any instance of hitting a woman ever rather than a sociopathic pattern of abuse, false apology and dependence based Stockholm syndrome that sustains itself for decades" episode

>>93198989
I really don't get why the young heroes went off with Black Widow. I mean she's Black Widow, what the fuck were you expecting? Leniency and non lethality?

>>93200624
Fuck you! Jan is perfection!

>>93199975
>waaah it's so hard being brown
The show is shit and you're shit for watching it.

>>93199745
I still don't get why they went with her instead of going with the other heroes that were looking for a less lethal solution by getting the cosmic cube. I mean it doesn't make sense unless they were sent there to keep an eye on her to stop her in case she went off the rails.

>>93199746
>Pym Particles for breast enhancement

>>93199348
>It's been 5 months
It's been 2 months.

>>93200043
He's been back for like 2 years now.

>>93199502
Steve lifted Mjolnir and proved that he was worthy. Likewise, Steve has Mjolnir.

>>93199746
Pym particles are the best.

>>93199269
It was me Tony, it was always me. Damn speedester.

>>93198999
>letting someone lose before you mindwipe them
And she's supposed to be smart?

>>93199195
I'm pretty sure comatose Tony was the forced one.

>>93199731
Nope. Only one issue has been delayed so far. We need at least one more issue to get delayed for that one to get struck.

>>93198989
>the one time you all don't have those damn earbuds in...

>>93199720
does this count as 'rant about milennials'?

>>93201117
No.

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>>93198934
I actually enjoyed this one, probably because the Ultron stuff is the kind of traditional Avengers story we don't get that often in the actual Avengers books any more. Ultron really does love kidnapping the Avengers and talking at them.

Also Wanda gets brainwashed a lot even by comic book standards.

>>93199226
so what's the deal with Ton- I mean the AI? what does Pymtron mean? and how does an ai have baggage anyways

>>93200955
Miles knows that he's the one that kills Steve because of Ulysses' vision so he just wants to get it over with. The other teen heroes joined up because they wanted to have Miles' back.

>>93200617
That's the point Pym's making. Tony's side believed it's actually Pym while Cap's side all thinks it's Ultron. So Pym sided with Tony and did what Ultron would have done to piss Cap off. What's Hydra gonna do, try to bomb them?

>>93201133
>how does an ai have baggage anyways
You're asking this in an Ultron issue?

BEing honest: This is the best ANAD Event so far. Doesnt mean much and it isnt THIS great, but I can enjoy it.

Just make Frank kill the champions

>>93201117
Not really a rant. More of a jab.

>>93199133
I'm confused how does an AI get drunk? Why is everyone treating him like a real boy? Is this the same AI Tony that was in Superior Iron Man?

>>93201133
>and how does an ai have baggage anyways
>Ultron
>Jocasta
>Danger
>Virgina

I would say Tony AI fits right in with Marvel's AI's that have tons of baggage.

>>93201166
They definitely are the weakest part of this event. Although that's partially because they're tethered to Natasha, and she's too busy trying to show everybody what a grizzled badass she is to actually do anything.

>>93201166
It's entertaining and stupid in a fun way.

>>93199211

Laughing my ass off. Thank you Lang.

>>93199335
>>93199434
>>93201085
"Pietro is a traitor" twist has been done so many times that it would be a twist if it wasn't him this time.

>>93201132
Hey, better for her to be brainwashed than for Bendis to have her go "crazy" because babies again.

>>93199269
the whole Ultron scene was 10/10
I'm really enjoying this event

>>93199132
It's not really Steve, either.

>>93198989
>train us to be badass spies widow!
>B-but torture is evil :(
>>93199048
Inb4 taskmasker jobs to mocking bird
>>93199075
This page is cool tho
>>93199095
Why would captain america look foward to battle a AI?!
>>93199111
>Kiss the overlord
kek
Also love the tuxedo ultron
>>93199133
Holy shit that first panel is retarded

>>93201265
Like comic books.

>>93199251
Wait, how did steve get back before tony and his gang could even get off the plane?

>>93200793
Does this mean Madame Hydra cucked Set?

It's implied she flirted with both of the dangerous elder brothers.

Has Eliza done the sex with Wanda/Chthonda would do a Jax Deep Space Nine thing

>>93199143
Say, where's Black Ant?

>>93199233
Oh.

>>93199133
>For those I love and for Asgard
Does hydracap have some power over Thor. Maybe he kidnapped Jane foster after taking the hammer, or is threatening to destroy all thats left of asgard/asgardians somehow.

>>93199269
Huh...Sam is drawn with a guilty face for some reason.

>>93201371
Apparently we get to see what happens with her in the next Avengers issue. But that's been such a drag to read.

>>93199153
>>93200012
>>93200046
Friendship ended with steve, now Ultron is my best friend
>>93199173
Sigh...everytime

>>93199269
Its gonna be Tony

I wouldnt be surprised if Steve has some sort of trojan in AI Tony's programming and he's literally just reading all the stuff Tony thinks about in his spare time.

Best issue barring #0. Man, Pym is pretty damn interesting to read. And Im ashamed to admit it, but somewhat relatable.

>>93199173
Remember that time when Iron Man was complicit in the genocide of the Kree and the destruction of their homeworld?
But no we gotta talk about muh Janslap.

>>93198985
I am STILL FUCKING MAD

>>93200756
Hercules and Thor are about even, especially if Thor doesn't have Mjolnir

>>93198989

>"none of them are as dangerous as the black widow"

Really?

>>93199370

Tony's drug app was retconned by Secret War.

>>93199006

Then why does she walk around in full gear in the daylight?

So many comics have done this "dreamworld" schtick better. Right now, The Manhattan Projects comes to mind.

>>93199984
The writing is good, Tony is just being a Jackass, which isnt too out of character.

>>93199057
I wanna fuck Cthonda

>>93199269
Jesus Steve is such a boring invincible villain. I mean is it too much to ask for that just once there be even a wrinkle in his plans? Even when it seems like things ended in a draw (an improvement over the first month where it was evil wins: the event) it's still ends in his advantage because all Spencer does is these last page twists rather than decent storytelling

>>93199839
Master of None is the best thing to come out of Netflix in years

>>93201802
What about House of Memes? It'd be much more relevant and ironic.

>>93201853
House of Cards is also good but MoN is better.

>>93201853
Dear White People would've been more progressive and make Scott look like a cuck.

>>93199218
>>93199370
>>93199636
>>93199687
>>93200730
>>93201432
>>93201479

It's called tongue in cheek, you autists. Pym is a self-insert for Spencer.

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>>93201865
>House of Cards is also good

>>93199568
Sam got Cassie out of the country in an issue of his book.

>>93201945
you are of course welcome to your opinion

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>>93199173
>It's all Hank Pympslap's fault it all went downhill!
Thank's Spencer.

>>93199211
>>93199251
Both of these were resolved ridiculously quickly.

>>93199133
I'm guessing Steve has Jane Foster captive or something?

>>93199119
>>93199133
Why is everyone treating this AI like the real Stark?

>>93199173
wife beaters BTFO. its poetic

>>93198934

Hank Pym looks a lot like Aaron Eckhart.

>>93198989
>all minority and female cast beats up evil white man
liberals wet dream the comic

>>93199191
"kill" an AI?

>>93202409
because Spencer wrote it as real Tony in the "planning" stages and didn't want to change things once Bendis pulled the coma card

>>93202479
marvel has been pure sjw for years now
that´s why I stopped buying their stuff
luckily judging by their sale numbers I´m not the only one

>>93199233
> no leftovers

WORSE THAN HITLER

>>93199153
Goddamn I want a Pymtron ongoing by Spencer now. This is so much more fun than his Uncanny Avengers appearance.

>>93199173
I can accept this because Tony's trying to bait him.

>>93199269
It's gonna be Bobbi, there's not even gonna be any leverage involved, she's gonna do it just because.

>>93202663
>Cap promised me that under he Hydra regime the media would be forced to talk about tampons!

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>>93199173
It's funny because half the people at that table have tried to kill Jan at one point.

>>93202859
We don't talk about the Crossing anon

>>93198989
I like how the champions are pretty much ok with torture, the guy is almost dead when they go"errr...black widow, we don´t want to disrespect you...but maybe, just maybe is a tiny bit much"

>>93199029
>Hank Pym is going to SAVE the Avengers!

>Always Sunny theme begins playing
>Title Card
>Hank Pym Destroys the Avengers

>>93198999
So, the "this is a very well-written story" crowd sure as hell have a good explanation as to why Natasha allowed the guy to keep his knife, right?

>>93202998
So she could kill him and be justified.

>>93199153
>skipping YAAAS QUEEN's fuckup
So close!

>>93199260
This is a sad day when Herc has to out the celebratory snacks back ToT

>>93202998
> own a gun
> be worried about a guy with a knife

are you retarded?

I didn't read the comic, don't care for the event, but I only wanted to point out that
>marvel event
>less than 300 replies
Yas, marvel is dead

>>93199014
>stealth mission in Alaska
Metal Gear?

>>93199568

Pietro and Scott both have daughters.

>>93203433
Oh yeah, Luna is probably being held in that Inhuman prison camp.

>>93202556
Literally every single writer should follow the "ignore everything Bendis has done" school of thought, I don't care how retarded "Drunk A.I." is, I hate Bendis a lot more than I do that idea.

>>93199989
Lol not even. If Steve asked Frank to suck his dick, Frank would. Steve is fucking Jesus Christ to Frank.

>>93199017
I feel like someone got yeld at for making AI Tony look pretty much human.

>>93203789
Frank would kill Jesus Christ if he started working with supervillain terrorists

>>93200852
>So does Zemo have a purpose other than being armcandy for Steve?
Yep, he was the leader of the raid on Atlantis last issue and, in general, he's Steve's right hand man, the one who deals with shit Steve's too busy to deal with.
Zemo's basically Steve's husband, but he does have his purpose.

>>93200012
>Every big Marvel Superhero event has heroes verse heroes
He's. Not even close to wrong. Marvel needs to stop this shit.

>>93199269
>every single one of them is working for Cap
>Cap never told them about the others
>they're all doing their best to sabotage the effort slightly without seeming too obvious out of fear of discovery
>meanwhile Cap is having the time of his life reading the reports

>>93201474
Unfortunately, not many writers think like that. Most don't know what to do with him.

It's sad: most writers don't know what to do with a heavily flawed mad scientist hero with mental issues. And superpowers.

This world, man...

>>93202439
It's kind of consistent with the last look we had at him (Larraz's in UA) and the current artist, I think. They also matched his color scheme to be more dark: dark brown, hazel-ish grey eyes.

Wouldn't mind if it stays that way.

>>93199111
CUUUUTE

>>93199092
HANK YES!

>>93199312
To be fair, American pop culture repeats that often enough that this problem is not exclusive to comics and the politicians certainly don't want people to think otherwise when they get caught enabling torture chambers.

This begs the question, what did steve do to tonys body? Does he whisper sweet nothings into his ear every night?

>>93200012
No anon. Pyntrom is the hero we deserve.

>>93199160
Fuck you Tony.

>>93203056
She's not at the table, though.

Where does one request storytimes?

>>93199017
>those earring on mockingbird
Delicious.

>>93199181
Poor Pymtron.

>>93199181
>But I made ONE mistake
That's the problem, Hank. The reason Tony's mental illness doesn't define him like yours does is because he's too busy starting wars or blowing up Universes.

>>93202550
Yeah. This is stupid.
>"I killed AI Tony! Muhahahaha"
>Tony is back 2 years later
>Tony: "Hey Pymtron. How's living with slapping your wife been?"

Like...either Say Tony is alive or don't use him. I get ignoring Bendis is fun, but don't also pull a Bendis out if spite.

>>93200246
>>93201191

Correction. he reprogrammed himself to be able to get drunk instead of considering all sorts of mind altered states he could have safely picked from.

>>93199111
Based Pymtron.

>>93199226
>WWJ do?
>didn't even make new clothes for everybody
You are truely a failure, Pymtron

>>93199181
>your incompetence put Norman Osborn in office
That's unironically worse than slapping your hoe.

>>93206033
Hank made multiple mistakes but for some reason slapping his wife is the one that comes back to haunt him, instead of building a killer robot that nearly took over the universe

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>>93199111
>>93199226
Oh Hanktron, you're the best!

>>93199202
That's actually pretty sweet.

>>93199211
>Heroes solved a problem by not punching it
Nice.

>>93199048
but the black ant was dead rigth?

>>93206569
Its a LMD

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>>93199119
>Not having Thor, Wanda, and Vision all being controlled by Doc Ock Mind Control
It's not like he hasn't done this before. Twice in fact. See Ends of the Earth and Superior Six for details.

>>93206502
the problem is more postponed than solved

>>93199269
>ONE OF YOU IS NOT WHO THEY SEEM!
This is Secret Invasion again, except even more retarded because it's not evil Skrulls it's just the usual suspects going at it again
>Because of reality and mind control shenanigans!
Whatever helps you wash it down

>>93206871
It's still a step up from Civil War 2.

>>93206979
an actual dog turd is a step up from Civil War 2

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>>93206871
difference is this is showing character work. maybe not the best but this issue is pure character work. Got some good interactions here.

I'm just mad we missed out on Ant Vrs Paperclips round 2

>>93199153
Pymtron is the true hero.

>>93199119
who is the one infected by the a.i virus?

>>93207586
Vision.

>>93199371
>Sorry, could you be more specific?

>>93200423
Thanks Bendis for that. I mean fuck Civil War 2.

>>93199720
wait bigger than the annihilation wave hasn't been said yet

Man this was bad. Is this the typical level of quality of Marvel events? No wonder they're never as highly regarded as events from other companies.

So we all can agree that neither Pym nor Ultron have mentally taken over completely, right? It's evident that Pym has more control in this issue but at the same time I doubt he would go for the kill so easily or be so out of touch without Ultron's influence.
>>93207751
It was said in royals and U.S.Avengers, it's got to count.

>>93199153
kek ant-man

>>93199119
>>93199133
Hank and Steve confirmed for plebs. That's easily the best Iron Man armor.

>>93202656
Bait him into what? I doubt he had accounted for Lang saving his skin, and a murderous ultron is the last thing any of them needed. When cable did it in UA, it was to expose Ultron. Tony has nothing to win from ticking him off.

>>93206979
Even Shintaro Kago smug mangas is a step up from Civil war 2.

>>93198934
I love how Spencer just ignores Bendis' bullshit and straight up writes AI Tony like regular Tony
Seriously, Ultron didn't even make a comment that it's an AI, not a robot

>>93199173
dude from all the stuff marlel forget in continuity this is what they deside to keep remebering? do the nu-marvel readers even know about that?

>>93199119
Weren't you raped, Bobbi?

>>93208197
According to Chelsea Cain, no.

>>93208197
No, turns out she just took advantage of a mentally ill man plagued by mystic forces, then killed him.

>>93199181
wow so marvel acutaly remebers his history they just deside to ignore it

I want to read a series about Pymtron's adventure.

>>93203213
>What is the 21 foot rule

>>93202262
The meat of the conflict between Cap and Namor will be in next week's captain america.

>>93198999
>>93199006
You know, I don't think it's that odd someone who was just tortured starts swing around a knife.

This isn't a joke. I'm not big on Marvel, so I don't know, is there a series where I can read about Pymtron being as fun as he is in this?

>>93207843
I don't think the being there even truly knows what it is.

>>93207828
>Is this the typical level of quality of Marvel events?
This is significantly better than the typical Marvel event.

>>93199202
this is a nice page yo

>>93208016
Yeah, Tony is just being an asshole because he can't help himself.

>>93208366
His arc in Uncanny Avengers was pretty good.

>>93201077
I missed this. Where it happen?

>>93206701
But Chthon is Eliza's Beta Orbiter, anon.

You know that episode of Deep Space Nine where Jax has a lesbo but not lesbo thing.

Chthonda and Eliza lewdness when?

>>93199083
Im hoping ai tony is actually tony mind linked with the suit.

>>93208705
Free Comic Book Day issue

>>93202409
From what i can guess, the ai looks like tony from their pov, but to us it looks like a blue hologram.

>>93208712
kek, poor Chthon
Wonder how he will feel at the end where he doesn't get shit

>>93199029
I really would love the white, blonde hetero male saving everyone else for a change in the Marvel Universe.
Besides Pym deserves something good happening in his life finally.

>>93202409
because fuck bendis

>>93199269
Who could it be?
Ant-man: maybe, daughter could be hostage, but he was given the mcguffin and didnt give it to Steve.

Piettro: most likely, steve has his sister possesed by a demon.

Bobbi: maybe, i dont know here that well except for that terrible recent comic run and the Agents of Shield tv show.

>>93208432
This is depressingly true.

Also not super familiar with Marvel history, whatever happened to Ghost Rider?

>Chthon possesses Wanda
>Only her brother really cares
Business as usual, I guess

>>93198944
>The weak should fear the strong

Who is the baddy on the right?