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So what's the consensus on Terry McGinnis as Batman?

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So what's the consensus on Terry McGinnis as Batman?
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>>93162685
Not nearly as good as Terry Bogard as Superman.
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>>93162685
Only acceptable Batman besides Bruce
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>>93162685
He was a Mary Sue
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>>93162685
Schway
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>>93162716
This.
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he was fun

>>93162716
>>93162741
Dickbats best bats
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>>93162716
Is it bad that I actually like Terry more than Bruce?
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>>93162685
Pure and best
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>>93162788
Not at all
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>>93162720
>Mary Sue
>caused his father to get killed due to his anger issues
>is seen as a thug by his girlfriend's father and constantly has falling outs with her
>spends the whole series getting his ass kicked
>is only a good Batman initially because of a state of the art suit

What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>93162770
>Dickbats best bats

Terry was superior.
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>>93163001
Literally not true in any way. Dick was so good because he didn't want the job and obviously he was more skilled.
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>>93162720
>He was a Mary Sue
Even after he got the suit he was mostly a loser who couldn't get his life together and mostly got his ass kicked even with a high-tech suit. If anything, the show loved dumping on him a bit too much.
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>>93163072
Being Terry is suffering.

And it is delicious.
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>>93162685
He was definitely fun, and a nice change to the usual stuff. A bit Dickbats, but with extra of dickery.
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>>93162685
I, too, enjoy Spider-man.
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>>93162685
bretty gud
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>>93162710
Please tell me this is a thing
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>>93162685
Another shitty white male teenager.

Black Batman when?
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>>93162685
Soft, rich, white boy who never had any hardship
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>>93163421
Kek what. Do you even Batman Beyond?
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>>93163421
He was middle class at best.
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>>93162685
He was nice, he used to whine a bit much but he was a teen and ultimately he did the job. He's slipping now though, he has some pretty good excuses but he's clearly gotten soft.
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>>93163356
There was one, he was kind of shit at it.
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>>93163356
>Wanting a Goddamn BatNig
Not even once
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>>93164236
God I fucking hate duke
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>>93162685
I like him more than Bruce and >>93162716
Dick is cool but he should be his own hero and fuck Damian
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>>93164288
Damian just became Ra's Al Ghul
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>>93162788
He makes more sense, he has much less control over his life so it makes him a hell of a lot more interesting than billionar playboy that can rule the city if he wanted.
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Terry was basically a batman version of spiderman. A mixed up teen given an incredible opportunity due to circumstance who tries to balance his regular life with crime fighting, usually at the expense of the latter while fighting villains with clever quips
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>>93162685
I think he's pretty schway
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Terry is great because hes his own Batman and not trying to be an imitation of Bruce. Possibly my favorite heir to the cowl.
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Would make a better spideman than batman
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>>93164236
What the fuck is even with Duke's costume? Its yellow because artistically it looks alright on a dark skinned character, but in universe its fucking retarded. Its the most SHOOT ME bat family costume ever, far surpassing the old Robin getup, and doesnt make a bit of sense. No camouflage, its the exact opposite of what Batman's armored target logo tired to do, and all around ugly. The guy walking around Gotham like hes a speedster instead of a street level vigilante
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>>93164501
Like that wasn't the point of all Bat sidekicks
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>>93164418
Because Terry wasn't effectively raised by Bruce like Dick, Jason and Tim were. Sons always try to emulate their fathers.
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Depends. Do he fuck Dee Dee? If they weren't his catwoman then he's terrible.
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>>93164501
You're expecting a black person to be intelligent, stop that
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>>93164603
>Sons always try to emulate their fathers.

OH GOD
Is that why I'm a failure?
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>>93162970
>What the fuck are you talking about?
Just a buzzword, anon. You can always just safely ignore the posts of anybody who uses specific words.
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I have some criticism about Terry both as a hero and a character, but all the same I find this kind of in-world future (which will never be because Batman will never die) of the Batman brand to feel the most authentic.

Bruce Wayne cannot be replaced. But he can be succeeded. And that's what Terry is. I like that he's watered down compared to Bruce and I think it's important that he comes from outside the Bat family (i.e. no history as a sidekick).
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Never read the comics, did Terry ever get on Max?
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>>93164811
According to JLU, he married Dana. I dunno if he and Max ever had a one-off thing, though. Probably not, given that she's Dana's friend.
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>>93162685
>So what's the consensus on Terry McGinnis as Batman?

He's great. The true heir to the Bat-mantle.
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>>93164811
>>93164890
Yea Max was just that one hot girl we all knew that was a total bro. I mean, yea, she was funny, smart and really attractive but you just didn't because you were best friends. And who wants a meaningful relationship with their best friend, am I right? You keep that shit platonic.
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>>93162710

oooKKKKAAYYYYY
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>>93162685

The true Son of Bruce Wayne
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>>93162970
>Killed all his rouges
>Killed the Joker

How was he not a Mary Sue
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>>93165351
Most of his foes killed themselves, either by intention or through blind stupidity.
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>>93162716
Dick was best Batman.
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>>93162716
ding
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>>93163001
Terry was a third rate batman who literally got the job because Dick didn't want it and Damian didn't exist in this universe.
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>>93165351
>>93165495
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Tied with Dick for my favorite of Batman's supporting cast.
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>>93166654

>Pulled into center of the earth

nopenopenope
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I really dislike that Justice League episode where Terry was revealed to be some weird half-clone of Bruce Wayne.
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Stupid chink batman
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>>93162685

Schway.
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>>93164335
That was his destiny since birth. And there is nothing wrong with it.
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>>93167016
terry is chink?
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>>93165351
Several of his rogues like Inque and Shriek are still alive. And he destroyed a microchip with a joy buzzer.

Is Tim Drake a Mary Sue for killing the actual Joker?
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>>93166999
>some weird half-clone of Bruce Wayne.
Technically that's what one would call biological son.
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>>93167134
It's not.
I mean, unless his mother is, which I doubt.
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>>93166546
Damian shouldn't exist in any universe.
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>>93162685
He's his own character instead of just a younger Bruce, and he was a fun hero to watch as a kid.
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>>93167016
>white mom
>two white dads
>chink
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>>93164623

Bruce was the one who made Duke's costume, Anon.
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>>93167141
Yes kid clearly couldn't be that good of a shot in that emotionally traumatized state
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I really enjoyed him.

Worse Batman than Bruce,but better character
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>>93165351
>Any hero that defeats their villain is a mary sue
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>>93166654
Some of that shit was truly fucking horrific. Hell I remember being scared of the "radioactive earth elemental" guy when I was a kid.

Hell, that episode is one of my favourites. So bittersweet, so dark. Amazing series.
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>>93165351
you dont understand mary sue
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>>93162710
Go on.
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>>93166654
>Revenge surgery
I always thought that one was the most fucked up one.
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>>93164236
Does Duke even have a superhero name? Does he seriously just go by Duke in costume?

Also, that is one of the worst Batfamily costumes to date. It looks like it doesn't know what it's supposed to be.
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>>93165351
What part of that is a Mary Sue? The whole point of him beating the Joker was that was essentially his final Batman test. Proof that he was a worthy successor. It's like when a new Ultraman beats a monster like Birdon or Zetton.
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>>93162685
I really liked him in the main series
LOVED his fight with the joker
especially how he does the one thing that Bruce never could, break the joker by just laughing at him
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>>93163421
He was a cyber punk.
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>>93164417
I'm not paying you for this kek.
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>>93164494
He's not even a chemist.
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>>93162685
I liked him and I'd be open to seeing a live action movie of Batman Beyond.
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>>93163421
>spent enough time in Juvie to be warned that if he screws up again it's jail next.
>Soft
>single mother raising two kids after husband dies
>Rich
>aformentioned along with his parents having had a devorce
>not knowing hardship
It is to laugh.
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>>93164417
How was this not the first post?
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>>93170282
>especially how he does the one thing that Bruce never could, break the joker by just laughing at him
So in the end, it really was Bruce's fault that the Joker became a massive, psychopathic murder machine, if he'd just laughed at how ridiculous he was from the start, he never would've tried so hard to get Batman to pay attention to him.

Fuck you, Bruce.
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>>93170020
It's Lark or some gay ass shit like that
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>>93170416
Apparently a live-action Batman Beyond was one of the movies planned after Batman & Robin.
But the movie bombed and put the whole franchise on ice
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>>93170020
I thought it was "Bat Wing"
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>>93164690
No you're a failure because you were raised by one.
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>>93170020
He is literally "BatBoy."
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>>93162685
He's the best spider-man that a batman can be.
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>>93171132
That was David and then Luke
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>>93170020
Lark
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>>93166928
No one got it worse than that guy
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>>93169935

>if the cuck was as sick as any of us here; he'd cut the guy down to just the parts he needs to make him into a fuckdoll and automate his body to do all the work as the good doctor just lays back and looks at the dread in that guys eyes as his new body does everything another person has assigned to it.

>i'd rather be at the center of the earth
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>>93171107
That's an awful name.
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He's not exactly "Batman" imo since I consider Bruce's obsessive behavior to be part of the character... but he's fun to watch. I consider his partnership with Bruce to be the most interesting part of the series.
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>>93162685
Had sex only one time in his life, died right after, had his suit taken by Tim Drake, who goes to the future and fights crime there.
Poor guy.
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>>93174142
And don't forget that he (mostly) failed his one objective in going back to the past to begin with.
Nobody likes you, Brother Eye
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>>93171590
And then Bruce came in with the stone cold quip.
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>>93174142
He got better.
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>>93162732
Underrated.
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>>93163356
>Another shitty white male teenager.
I though Terry is Asian?
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>>93162685
did he bang ten?
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>>93174894
I have no idea why anyone thinks that.

Do you people watch cartoons or read comics? Also, icy blue eyes. I don't know many asians with blue eyed. Hazel or green, maybe. But blue is definitely western.
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>>93164611
Unfortunately no, but he fucked Ten and she was good as well
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>>93174894
>>93167016

No, he has Chad squint, not Asian squinty eyes. Like Scott Eastwood or Channing Tatum. Big difference. Why the fuck would people assume a tall, buff kid with blue eyes with 2 white parents named Terry would be Asian?
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>>93165351
it was okay for his villains to die because since they were all new characters nobody would complain when their favorite comic villain stopped showing up
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>>93174142
But he's back after all.
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>>93176528
And his surname,, too.

I mean, his mother could be from the middle east or near east, but come on...
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>>93162685
Schway.
It brought us the DeeDee Twins. It brought us Mad Stan. It brought us a cyberpunk Batman who wasn't edgy/emo/useless. It made Terry suffer. It made most of the other characters suffer.
It brought us "Terry's friend dates a robot."
I can see why you might want something a little different, a little more familiar, but how can you think that BB is not cool?
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>>93162685
I like him as Bumblebee.
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>>93174894
>>93168015
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>>93162710
Are you ok?
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>>93162685

Terry didn't have the mind of Bruce, but he did have more heart (Amanda Waller tells him this in the final episode).

So while not as badass as Batman, he had more character. And character goes a long way considering he cheated on his devoted girlfriend TWICE and the audience gave him a free pass. And don't bother with the "they were broken up the first time" excuse. You wait at least a fucking day before making out and falling in love with someone else. The second time, when they're back together, he does her in her bedroom right after Dana calls.

Now just imagine for a second Terry was a woman who had a devoted boyfriend. Fans would be foaming at the mouth. But like I said, Terry had character and that goes a long way. And Ten was hot.
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>>93177349

>But like I said, Terry had character and that goes a long way

It helps that Terry is a teenager, who aren't known for having the best impulse control.
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>>93177349
>You wait at least a fucking day before making out
Says what law?
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>>93177349


Anyone who survives what terry goes though deserves some impulsive fucks
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>>93177525
>>93177500
>>93177374

I rest my case.

As you can see, because he's liked so much, he gets a free pass. No regular guy (and definitely no woman no matter how much character she possesses) would get this level of "understanding".
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>>93165351
If anything Bruce is the mary sue, who has ever accused Terry of being a Mary Sue?

He routinely needs help from an old man and a dog
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>>93177560
What or who says you have to wait a day before making out with another chick after break-up?
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Terry's showdown with the Joker is one of the highpoints of the whole DCAU. Awesome in its own right, while establishing Terry as his own man.
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>>93177574

Because look at Dana's reaction the SECOND he walk away from her at the dance club. She's already regretting the fight. Couples fight and say shit in the heat of the moment.

Is it law you can't hook up with someone else? Nope. Hell, he can technically fuck every rogue gallery villain he runs into. Doesn't make it a good idea. Is it common fucking sense you should give a LEAST a day to calm down. Absolutely. If Terry and her were split for, I don't know, at least a week or so, then I could get behind his decision. But it's fight, walk out of the club, and literally hooks up with Ten several minutes later. Then it's all emo on Bruce soon after.

Hell, even Bruce says "you two will be back together soon". Even fucking Bruce, the same guy who hangs up on Batgirl in front of Robin and doesn't hook up with Wonder Woman (every supes wetdream) sees they're meant to be together.
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>>93177639
>meant to be
women actually believe this.

If it meant anything you wouldn't throw it away.
The shitty "regret it and hook back up" and "we're meant to be" logic is why so many stay in shitty, destructive and/or abusive relationships.
because he didn't mean it and like he's the one.
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>>93162685
He's the only one true Batman after Bruce. Because all that pack of Robins rather chose the different name and moved to different place or simply failed to fulfill the expectations.
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Terry was a better "son born without Bruce's knowledge or consent in an elaborate scheme to make a successor" than Damian.
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>>93162685
Pretty much the only heir to the cowl that can be Batman while still being himself.
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He's the best Batman because he was (mostly) consistently written.

His actions meant something because he had a limited run, and he didn't stick around long enough to be written into the hypocrisy of letting his villains get away with genocide time after time.
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>>93164811
WHY TERRY? WHY?

PERFECTION WAS STARING YOU IN THE EYES AND YOU STILL GO AFTER GENERIC BLANDO LOVE INTEREST

are all the men/women of the batfam just cursed with bad taste in romance?
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If you're not Bruce Wayne, you're not Batman

Fuck off, Terry.
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>>93164236
BLACK N YELLOW BLACK N YELLOW
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I enjoy Batman Beyond Ill
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>>93177994
He's still around you know.
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What other shows are there that follow the benched mentor/replacement student set up?
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Does anyone else kind of wish we got to see a bit more of terry as a grown up? While I always enjoyed terry being more of a brawler and a less skilled martial artist/detective/acrobat than Bruce, that scene in JLU where grown up terry breaks into wallers residence and she tells him he's almost as good as Bruce was in his prime makes me want to see terry all grown up
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>>93178085
I enjoyed watching Uprising a lot, but it always bothered be how blatantly it rips off BB.
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>>93166654
Forgot about that one Ra's al Ghul bodyguard that was chased by an alligator. Survived?
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>>93166654
Blinded AND Deafened.
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>>93178152
???
Other than the already mentioned benched mentor/replacement student set up, it doesn't at all.
>tron just trains beck, bruce is in constant contact to act as support
>beck fights for a city under military occupation, terry fights a city full of corruption and unassociated evil
>tron doesn't fight because he's injured, bruce is just fucking old as balls
>beck has to deal with constantly shifting public opinion, batman is batman
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I thought it was a general agreement that Bruce > Terry > Dick > Jason > Tim > Damian
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>>93178624
Pretty good list.
I completely agree with you, even though I like Damian the most.
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>>93174894
I also thought he was half Asian for a while. He has an Asian girlfriend, lives in a city with Asian alphabets on buildings

Blue eyes doesn't automatically dismiss it since there's a girl named BLADE and he has a white mother. I missed the episode where the dad died. My bad
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>>93179860
that guy wasn't even his biological father according to the end of JLU
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>>93179860
>I missed the episode where the dad died. My bad

It's irrelevant about the dad dying anyway considering Bruce is Terry's biological father.
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Do you think Bruce found some comfort in Terry's aim to become a doctor, like Thomas was?
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>>93165351
Defeating the joker is the only thing I'll give you
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>>93179934
Well yeah. But I haven't watched that JLU episode either until years later when a Shortpacked! comic brought it up
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>>93162685
The better question is if this guy the definiteve Blue Falcon?
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>>93168075
He should have let Alfred design the costume. Alfred designs costumes the best.
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>>93164417
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>>93162685
Chainsaw knees.
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>>93179920
>>93179934
I always found their explanation for that to be baffling and stupid because the genetic material still came from McGinnis even though it was modified to change into Bruce's DNA.
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>>93177349
Yeah Dana is a bit spoiler but very cute.
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>>93181458
Of course, BB was before the character Spoiler became such a big pest in the bat-comics.
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