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Batman: >Parents brutally murdered in front of him as a child,

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Batman:
>Parents brutally murdered in front of him as a child, but otherwise enjoyed a life of immense privilege
>Constantly plays the victim and shapes his identity around it

Guts:
>Ripped out of his dead mother's womb, never knew his father
>Raised by a whore in poverty who was later killed
>Found a new father in a mercenary who forced him to kill at an early age while letting other mercenaries rape him
>forced onto the field of battle where he saw countless friends die
>Meets his first friend who is secretly vindictive and jealous
>Betrays Guts by murdering all of his friends and raping his only love in front of his eye while he desperately mutilates himself to save her in vain
>She loses her memory and hates Guts
>World becomes filled with demons and immeasurable suffering
>Forced to wear a cursed suit of armor that is slowly killing him
>Still is an optimist who doesn't let the world break him
Why is Batman such a pussy?
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>>93100807
>letting other mercenaries rape him
>not an immense privilege
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batman wears his underwear on the outside and at worst has to deal with some ugly thugs with knives or laughing gas
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Even going for real life examples, Batman look like a pussy. Many kids lose their parents by war or drone attacks but they don't turn into emo ninjas.
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>>93100956
But they probably would if they were rich.
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>>93100956
No, they just turn into religiously fanatic suicide bombers.
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>>93100982
Not really. They would either get drunk or just move on. At best they could finance ISIS
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He also had the option to kill the joe chill but did not but that whould kinda destroy the canon because what better whould batman be if he killed joe chill
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Bleach sounds stupid and needlessly edgy
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>>93101017
Those are second generation muslims born on Europe, most of them grow with both parents
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>>93100807
Wow thanks for making Berserk sound terrible.
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>>93101033
>Bleach
Yeah, (You) better go drink bleach, senpai.
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>>93101038
Not in Mudslime countries, you dumb faggot. Do you not think they blow themselves up all over the Middle East, or are you just paid to be stupid?
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>>93100807
Batman is just not a edgelord like Guts. When bad things happen to him, he feels them and is defined by them. That's what people do in the real world too. You don't just have horrible things happen to you and not reflect on them.

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>>93100807
>>Still is an optimist who doesn't let the world break him
You must have missed the whole Black swordsman arc. He was huge asshole that wouldn't let an faggot ass elf touch him and didn't want help from anyone/ or cared about the fate of the world and only cared about penetrating Griffith with his overcompensating sword.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=w1o4O2SfQ5g

Comfier theme too
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>>93101102
Just assuming no one give a shit about terrorism on the middle east. This has turned into a /pol/ thread and the /pol/tards believe the muslims are an unified army rather than a fucking mess
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>>93101157
confirmed for not understanding a fucking thing about /pol/
kys
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>>93101138
Yes but Guts matured and isnt edgy anymore
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>>93101184
thats cause berserk is a continuous story written by one guy
i dont know why you expect character development from capeshit
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Its pretty unfair to compare anyone elses struggles to Guts, he's had probably the hardest life of any fictional character who was not explicitly made to suffer.

skull knight even calls him struggler.
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Guts is better written than 98% of capes
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I honestly can't go back to feeling bad for Bruce after I recently got into Berserk. I also love more people getting into BERSERK lately.
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>>93104235
Same
If it gets more popular maybe we will get to see the end of the series before we die of old age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n55QVlBoDxI
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>>93100807
>decades old superhero character originally written for 8-year-olds and constantly reimagined to fit into the strict guidelines of his origin makes less sense than a modern character written for a different audience with a single writer
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>>93100807

HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER!!!
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>>93104445
WAAH I'M BLIND
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"Robbed of a mother's Love at birth
Left to drown in Blood
He was to Die beneath her Corpse
Meant to rot in a cesspit of Despair
Born to Die as a waste of air

Ralsed as a Child, One shorn of fate
In a fit of Rage
He knows a Violent Destiny
Will await, Only Life by Sword shall reign
And he Never to death be slain
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>>93104573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC7H1rOU1Gg
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>>93104606
>>93104573
>>93104235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pABfwmdlQak

Shame the anime has to suck so much compared to the manga
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>>93101184
Watch him go full edge again after Casca regains her memory and either runs off to be with her rapist and baby mutator Griffith or sacrifice Gut's whole party and the elves to become an Apostle herself to kill Griffith.
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>>93100956
>Many kids lose their parents by war or drone attacks but they don't turn into emo ninjas
>implying that's a good thing

The world needs more emo ninjas who want to make the world a better place you absolute faggot, instead they just do gay shit like turn into normies or become suicide bombers.
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>>93104474

Which is pretty horrible.
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>>93104922
Stevie Wonder seems ok
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>>93101045
This. I got a fucking branded tattoo, and I cringed at this.
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Anime is gay so Batman is automatically better
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>>93100807

>Guts
>optimist

You what?

Also Guts in many ways WAS broken. Did you not read the Black Swordsman arc? It was him lashing out childishly and violently against everyone and everything. He was also borderline suicidal for a large part of his life, which is why he went from battlefield to battlefield consciously pushing himself to the brink of death.
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>>93104804
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> implying these two would not become bros
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>>93100807
reminds me too much of that episode of Major Crimes.

the killer of that episode logics that if the going gets though/it fails, the rich white kid doing the outreach program in the hood can always just go back home.
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>>93106756
>logics
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>>93104804
>Casca
>Becoming an Apostle
>Not going full RIP AND TEAR towards GRIFFITH like Guts was during the Black Swordsman Arc

Anon no

Anon why
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>>93101102
... actually yes, they do.
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>>93105614
He's really chipper these days compared to the really early chapters. Making friends really went a ways to unfucking him.
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>>93106769
in a way the killer has a point.

the kid merely preaches a message of hope, no tangible solutions. so if the kid fails or gives up, all the ones listening to his message would be the ones holding up the bag when he leaves.

basically bruce can quit anytime he wants because he has something to fall back on/have an alternative life ready and waiting. guts doesn't.
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Guts has the benefit of a clear artistic vision in mind for him while Batman is less a character and more a concept.
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>>93106789
Guts going full RIP AND TEAR is going to get him killed against Griffith. He has to go half RIP AND TEAR to win.
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>>93100807
Guts' story reads like a Korean soap opera. It becomes comical and meaningless after a certain point.
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REMINDER that Griffith has done nothing wrong. The Band of the Hawk swore that they would give up their lives for him, and when he went to collect his debt after giving them fame, fortune, and comfort, they suddenly turned their backs on him. Also Guts is mad because Griffith gave her such a good fucking she literally became retarded.

Liking Guts is being a teenage edgelord, liking Griffith is being a sophisticated adult.
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>>93104804
Neither of these are happening. The latter just ain't Casca's nature, the former is people not realizing that her reaction to Griffith after the reincarnation is because he's using Casca's baby as his vessel, not because she still loves Griffith.
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>>93107940

Shut up, Griffith
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>>93108149
What?? I'm not Griffith! There's no way I would know how to use a computer, of all things!
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>>93104804
>Casca's mind was ok all along
>She just didn't wanna admit she liked it so she pretended to be retarded
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>>93108265
I had a friend who tried this once. She was on the far-left of the bell curve when it came to intelligence. Her boyfriend accused her of cheating, and she denied it for a month until he finally presented evidence to her that she had, in fact, been cheating. Her response was, "Oh, baby, I'm sorry, it's just he's got a really big dick, and I would pass out and forget so I wasn't really lying, honest!"
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>>93100807
As someone who's never watched or read Berserk, you make Guts sound like a massive faggot, OP.

Thanks for steering me away from this dogshit.
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>>93108363
Guts is a massive faggot. He's taken it up the ass, and he was too much of a beta to fuck Casca even though she was lusting for his dick, and then got mad when alpha-chad Griffith gave her a dicking... to die for.
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>>93108346
I hope that's all bullshit because otherwise that guy must have had a break with reality himself.
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>>93108399
She didn't want to go back to living on Section 8 housing and EBT, and she thought he'd be stupid enough to believe her. Fortunately he kicked her ass to the curb. I hear he's a hyper-racist now, though.
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Guts had a worst life but is in a much different world
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Wow Guts sounds so edgy and mature like myself.
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>>93101455
This
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>>93100807
Batman:
>parents murdered in front of him
>proceeds to wear a costume and beat up normal people every single night, for the rest of his life

Superman:
>wife and unborn child killed, city nuked
>kills joker in retaliation
>"hurrr u shouldnt have done that, we have justice and shiet, u were my icon y u do thattttt literally hitler:
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>>93100807
Berserk is shit before the Golden Age arc and after Guts leaves the Band Of The Hawk. And if not shit, at least much worse.

this is an objective fact
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>>93104804
>Watch him go full edge again

Berserk's slow transition to more lightheartedness has come from Miura getting older and not being interested anymore in the misery and bleakness of his former tone. He's even stated Berserk should have a happy ending.
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Jesus, i OP a trolling faggot or is Berserk really such an edgefest?
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>>93108158
Yeah, I'm sure you didn't learn everything about the world and the future while you were revived into your Femto form.
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>>93104445
red batman?
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>>93105614
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>>93109634
https://youtu.be/rSw-99WkXvo
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>>93109482
Happy end....confirmed?
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>>93109482
Guts and Griffith bros again.
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>>93109482
>>93110511
INB4
>Casca regains her memories.
>But some shit goes wrong (Behelit activates or some shit)
>Casca almost becomes an Apostle
>She avoid it thanks to some magic shit but Elf King reveals that she's now tied to the World Tree and Griffith.
>Its implied that If they go she goes.
>She still insists on fighting Griffith.
>After many chapters of war and bloodshed Guts and Co beat Griffith, Godhand, the new band of the hawk and destroy the tree. (Somehow)
>Last Chapter is the long due wedding between Guts and Casca
>Farnese, her Fiance and her Father fund the entire thing. It's fucking grand.
>Guts and Casca are both annoyed and embarrassed about the whole thing.
>Every ally still alive go to the event
>Characters like, Jill, those religiously tolerant villagers, the magic guys and the like.
>As they walk down the isle Casca falls.
>"Guts without Griffith we never would have.."
*Poof*
>Guts is left holding an empty wedding dress while everyone looks on in shock and horror.
>MFW

Sorry..still a bit bitter over a certain lackluster ending.
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>>93100865
He was nine or so at the time Anon. Are you going to tell us how it was ebebophilia and prfectly awwright, Anon?
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>>93110740
You know Miura said he couldn't end Berserk with such a grimdark ending, right?

Both he and Jack deserve peace, if Casca dies then at least she was better than Ashi.
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>>93109687
Man, I'm not Griffith! I mean, Griffith is just so perfect and I'm not so there's that. And I hear Griffith has an eight pack. Do you? I don't.
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I fucking hate berserk's art style.
Maybe it's cause I was very very very ill when I watched it, but it just looks WRONG and UNSETTLING and DIONYSIC, decadent/degenerate, to me.

Whereas Vinland Saga or Hellsing look like VITALITY and HEALTH and APOLLONIC to me.
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>>93104891
Wanting to make the world a better place and making the world a better place are two different things.
And Batman's only succeeded at one of them.
(Hint: it's not the useful one)
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>>93100807

If I wanted to get into Berserk, should I watch the old anime or the new one?

Don't have time to read manga
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>>93112139
watch the old anime, but really you should read the manga (they're actually off the boat now and the plot is going somewhere). Avoid the 2016 anime as it is fucking horrible
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>>93112139
>Don't have time to read manga
Then just ignore the series.
The old anime was financed by a lemonade stand and barely covers 1/5 of the series
The movie series is just the same as the old anime and story wise, and was basically made with the manga readers in mind
The new anime is a fucking travesty and everyone involve should be castrated
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>>93111912
you got issues
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>>93111912
What're you, gay?
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>>93112139
>Don't have time to read manga
Yeah right.
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>>93112224
>>93112255
>>93112314

Thanks. I guess I'll try to fit Berserk into my tight comic reading and masturbation schedule.
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>>93112358
Can't you just spend less time masturbating and use that time to read Berserk?

Hell, if you masturbate less the next time you masturbate it will feel better. In my experience atleast.
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>>93101138
>>93105614

The whole point of the Black Swordsman arc is that Guts' edgelord persona was just him retreating to being an asshole because of his past and his fear of getting hurt. Remember at the end of the arc where he breaks down like a bitch and bawls?

I dunno why this has to be a fight. Guts becomes an empowered Batman with a huge sword once he gains the Berserker armour and Shierke is there to remove any tension that the armor might give by reversing the armor's effect of making him a mindless creature fueled by pure hate.
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>>93110830
I'd give him my immense privilege tbqphwyf
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>>93109406
It's been twenty years since he left the Band. More like twenty five. No need to spoiler that.

>Not liking Conviction

>>93109634
Nip comics are a special kind of edge when it comes to it.
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>>93101176
>implying anyone would want to understand that cesspool
no u kys
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>>93112397
>Can't you just spend less time masturbating

If I don't masturbate at least 10 times a day, a bomb wired to my urethra will explode

So NO
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>>93107940
Why couldn't you save him?
When will he smile again?
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guts is a slut.
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Speaking of Batman
https://twitter.com/THR/status/873559899690717184
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>>93112397
>not fapping to the Eclipse
I actually did that once
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>>93104804
>love interest does the protagonists job for him and defeats the antagonist
I absolute
unbelievably
fucking hate this trope.
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I used to be a Batfag until I realized how whiny he really is


Now I am a Green Lantern main
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>>93100807
Except Batman also is optimistic about the world, he just tends to be a cynical jaded asshole when dealing with other people but he still believes in truth justice hope and all that shit, one could even make the argument that Superman inspires that hope in Batman, you also forget that Bruce trained since he was very young with various masters including Ra's Al Ghul who would have twisted his head further and that Gotham is a horrible shithole filled to the brim with corruption and crime with Batman just being an ordinary man with ambition and money to fulfill that amibition.
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>>93100807
>Ripped out of his dead mother's womb, never knew his father
her mother was a hanged corpse, he literally ploped out of her
>Raised by a whore in poverty who was later killed
she died of the plague
>forced onto the field of battle where he saw countless friends die
he never had any
>Forced to wear a cursed suit of armor that is slowly killing him
he chose to wear it
>Still is an optimist who doesn't let the world break him
there's a difference between optimism and stoicism
start reading it again from the start you fucking mongoloid
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>>93101062
dont you have some leafy videos to watch you underage fag
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>>93112139
>has time to watch 50+ half hour episodes
>Doesn't have time to read some comics
I never get this
Reading manga is far, far, faster than watching anime
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>>93116596
Usually better too. I can't tell you how many of my favorite mangos had butchered adaptations.
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>>93113381
Troll rape is hotter imo.
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>>93109482
>happy ending

Fucking gay
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>>93116643
Is there a good site to read berserk on? I got to like volume 15 and the translation become complete shit.
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>>93115909
I switched from batsman to the Flash.
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>>93100807
Notice how you don't see as much /a/ vs /co/ shitposting on /a/?
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>>93118308
I wouldn't know. I haven't read a manga online baring brand new chapters for series I follow in nearly five years since I tend to either own manga or "own" them. The best translations for Berserk are the Dark Horse ones. Evil Genius are doing the recent chapters. Avoid Hawks. They can't even get Guts' name right for fucks sake.
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>>93105095
when are you going to upload another video, Demo?
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>>93100807
>Never knew his father

But Guts does know Zodd.
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>>93100807
>She loses her memory and hates Guts
Let it never be said that being retarded would ever stop Casca from being a total bitch.
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>>93104445
How the hell isn't getting tangled into that mess of wires or ropes?
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>>93118223
Why does everything I love turn to shit?
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>>93118223
Screw you, guys, I'm going home
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This is why manga >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comics
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>>93120860
what is worse is that Miura himself told Studio Millepensee to handle this human attrocity since He actually likes alot moe stuff and they do that shit

>>93120917
Please, sure there is a good chunk of bad manga out there but comics are not the best thing so far (neither does manga) specially with the current way Marvel is going with its hardcore pandering
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>>93120971

I said manga > comic

to be honest I prefer manga stuff only because there is more range and genre out there
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>>93121036
sorry read it the opposite but this is /co/ and on every /a/ related thread they make here you can see how feral people go towards anime or manga and highly ignorantly said that is literally the same even told many example of that,just because mainstream works tend to be hot garbage they assume everything is like that even thought there is *literally* per year over near 200 animes release of different genres on lets not get started on the manga releases
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>>93121119
east vs west threads on here always seemed to me like thinly veiled excuses to have /a/ related discussions without having to deal with /a/´s userbase.
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>>93121119
Yeah, sturgeons law definitely applies here.
because there are more manga released per year, that "10% of not crap stuff" is a lot more than the 10% of good western comics
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>>93121205
I used to browse nu/a/ but not anymore, cant take that level of toxic /a/utismo , at least here you only need to deal with the /pol/ack or tumblreinas from time to time so I stay here most of the time
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Put your grasses on
Nothing wir be wong
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>>93121241
and their mods are absolutely way more aggressive on /a/ and there is alot of shilling
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>>93118308
manga.life has pretty high quality scans of berserk.
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>>93118223
I got so much shit by anime fags when I called out how bad the previews of this looked. Still mad.
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>>93121392
Sure they are not trolls, cos this atrocity have been literally a meme since its birth, I will believe you in autistic fucks that get triggered if you shit on their SAO or similar mindless shit but this?
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>>93121036
>to be honest I prefer manga stuff only because there is more range and genre out there
You know it seems that way but it's like it all shares the same undercurrent of themes and general narrative direction. It's a weird market to have such variety yet all cling to the same cultural expectations.
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>>93121463
Nah normal fags on twitter.
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>>93121603
what do you mean? japanese comics have so many different themes and artstyle that for a few of them you can't tell it was made in japan.

the best manga artists are the ones who are not otakus, put a lot of research and just want to write a good stories, I guess seinen/josei stuff is what I lean towards, shonens are guilty of what you said because of their rating system I guess
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>>93121463
Did you just had a stroke?
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>>93121623
>normal fags on twitter.
...... do I even have to comment on that?
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>>93122040
berserk is pretty normie tier to be honest, it's the naruto of the seinen genre in that everyone knows about it
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>>93109482
>Berserk's slow transition to more lightheartedness

Puck was there from the first fucking chapter. Guts not actually being the edgelord he initially appeared was revealed at the end of the Toad Count arc, before the Golden Age. I'd argue that Berserk is gradually becoming less grimdark simply because actually winning against Godhand no longer seems a total impossibility, even if Guts has yet to make any actual progress towards that.
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>>93101062
Lol
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>>93107940
He got so assblasted about losing in a fight with Guts that he wound up getting tortured in a dungeon. What a retard
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>>93122252
>actually winning against Godhand no longer seems a total impossibility
...Nah it still seems pretty fucking impossible. Guts just doesn't really care anymore; he just wants to be left alone to bang his girlfriend on elf island. Having a loli witch that can make the screaming spirits that try to eat your soul at night go away also serves as a pretty good mood booster
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