How's your webcomic? HYW #371(?) reConstruction

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP


>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

>>93022197
Or @Tea Love, Smugineer
I'm sorry to say, but this is not an improvement. I think it's very impressive that you were able to pop out so many pages since you decided to start an entirely new project, but I have to say if I had to choose between Tea Love and Reiko's Love story, I prefer Reiko's love story. Tea Love is kind of weird, the premise is definitely original, but I think you set it up kind of clumsily. I couldn't finish reading it, because I got bored. I just couldn't connect to the characters, and the dialogue was not engaging or entertaining. If you really want to do comics in this style - kind of cute, with girls, and and enough edges to be considered a sphere - I would take a lot at Dan Kim's "Tomoyo42's room" or "Nana's Daily Life."

As it stands, I think restricting yourself to 4-koma is not helping you. I think rushing into your comic is not helping either. Utilize this thread, your friends, any other online original content sharing community, to receive some feedback on your work.

Generally:
>General Ideas, stand-alone artwork with a brief background story
>Script, flesh out your world and characters a bit
>Storyboard, it will help plan: long projects, poses, direction, panel, consistency
>First draft
At any point, design things, characters, backgrounds, objects.
At any point, get feedback. It will save you some time in the long run if you're new to comic-making.

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>>93071151
However, if you wanna go for a mostly comedic, mostly rectangular panelled comic, then I would consider this:
>Keeping designs and art simple so they do not become a pain to draw, and they don't become a distraction to the joke
I think you got this part down though, although your art could use some work. Although your art should not deter you from making comics, you just need to understand what you can draw and how it fits with certain styles of comic.
>Have a clear start and end, set up your own rules
Reiko's Love story wanted to tell a love story, or maybe it was about the horrors of growing up, whatever. Have rules like, "The story must be focused on Reiko and her life", "Reiko can suffer, but she cannot die", "Reiko does not get a boyfriend until OOO happens"
>Idea
"Mobsters are always meeting up at some discreet restaurant."
"Hm, these maid cafes are always in really weird and shady buildings..."
"Haha, wouldn't it be funny if a bunch of mobsters met upa a maid cafe?"
Oh man, but what reason would they have to be in a maid cafe? And what about Reiko? Oh duh, these yakuza guys actually have a heart of gold and can't resist helping a person in tears.

tl;dr
Wow, you put out a lot of pages since you last posted. That's pretty impressive! But I didn't like it as much as your old comic, please think about the direction you want to take your comic and the best way to approach it.

Unrelated, but I just re-read Nana's Daily Life (2004), and it still holds up! Also, Dan Kim's been replied to all the tweets, at least on the last page when I bothered to look. That's pretty sweet, what an inspiration.

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Finished this page /co/!

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Finally started doing some character drawings. I'm not totally sold on the guy on the right but I'm not sure on what to do with him.

>>93070993
I've been posting my animation work for my review series for almost a year now and nobody has had problems with it. I think that should be fine.

Also it's nice seeing my image used.

>Would you mind other forms of creative work to be allowed here? Such as animations, comic/cartoon reviews, games, etc.
Considering we already have a few people who do animations and comic reviews here, sure. I'd prefer if the focus stayed on comics, though, since if people just want general art sharing thread they could go to the Batman threads.
>How often should we have these threads?
Whenever people are willing to talk, I suppose. If people are still chit chatting at the end of one thread might as well make another one to keep the conversation going.
>How to go about finding an artist or writer.
Learn to draw and practice creative writing yourself, silly. Or go to webcomic/art sites, say you're looking for an artist/writer, and take not of anyone who responds.

>>93072108
Cool style, I like the smug dude.

>>93070993
>#371(?)

>>92991396
This is /hyw/ #374.

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I'm doing okay

>>93071515
Seems like a really forceful punch, I think some build up to it would really help the dramatic effect. Like, recouping or winding up the arm sort of thing.

>>93072108
Guy on right looks like an older fellow. Probably has a job, but could be a detective or a monster. Really lax-looking, not too formal.

we agreed to do these threads once every few months due to lack of content, stop making these dead threads

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>>93074203

>>93074381
link me your paypal and I'll comply

>>93073366
>>93073459
Some people have been asking, so I just thought we'd come to a general agreement about what can be posted here.

>>93073987
You've been posting a lot of character concepts, it's good to see you progress with your project! Do you think that title is too similar to JoJo's bizarre adventure though?

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>Artist workshop: Show your construction, how do you (in your own specific way), construct your characters? Do you prefer the ball-and-stick method, a box method, or something else entirely?

I usually do loose sketches- the more complex the thing, the more complex the sketches.

Then when I go to ink I'll go back in and do tighter sketches in areas where I need more detail.

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>>93075372

finished piece (without text) for reference-

>>93075398
sketch looks better

>>93075496

that's always the problem- trying to keep the energy of a sketch through to inking.

I guess the answer to that is just: Get Better

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>>93075676
Try to put as few lines as possible on the starting of the inking process maybe? I personally have no prob with the way you ink your pages.


Also done a new sketch page.

>>93075676
I think the main problem is the character's expression in panels 3 and 5. It looks natural in the sketch but comes across as really wonky in the finished product for some reason.
I'm sure this must be confusing to you as well since you know for a fact that you can draw it a lot better...

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>>93075372
>>93075398
Your method reminds me of a painting process. I think it's very efficient! I've seen some people make their pages with the word bubbles planned out, which saves some drawing, but like you I prefer finishing the page just in case I wanna move the bubbles around.
Your coloring style seems very suited for printing.

I know this page is finished, so you don't have to change anything if you don't want to. I guess my biggest beef would be that panel 4 is a little confusing, but I can see some dialogue going there and that might clear things up a bit.

Although the page holds up well on its own, here is what I propose. First panel has some exciting things going on, so I think it deserves a little more space. I think changing panel 4 to panel 2 would better introduce the positions of your two characters. Your original panels 2 and 3 are good, but what I propose is that you keep the camera angle the same, that way it flows a little better. Although it gives the impression of movement, which may or may not be your intention. Finally. I moved the original panel 2 to panel 4, because I really do like your art and it'd be a waste not to utilize it.

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>>93076323
hm- it may be the look I'm trying to convey (frustration, exhaustion, mild despair) is one that's difficult for me to get across exactly- but I tweaked them a bit (here)

That being said, it's too late for big changes on this page-

>>93076629

and thank you! ha- I kind of love those drawings of Nina and Mr. Bun. She looks suitably exhausted with him and everything--

It's interesting how the panel changes you made make the tension and flow change so much! I really like the inset panel of mr bun's ears.

Damn, I really like that actually.

I'm definitely not (no time!) redoing this page, but I'm going to save this and think if I can apply it going forward. Thank you!

>>93071515
Dewd did you draw the op picture?

it honestly looks good i like the colors even if the hand and pencil are a bit off but it still works

>>93076758
That's fine! Being able to look at pages and wonder how things could be different helps me with my own pages.
With the speech bubbles put in place, Nina definitely appears pissed. What did you doooo Mr. Bun

>>93076814
Dupe drew it, not Dewd.

>>93076921
oh shit i didn't notice that last part sorry

>>93074613
Yes and I don't care that the name is similar.

How have these threads been going lately?

i only post in batman threads these days

did you finally get rid of THAT guy,

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>>93077075
I can think of four actively posting, and maybe like three who post here but not too often.
Other than that, I'm not really sure what you mean.

Attached is just a schoolbag design for one of my characters.

>>93077075
>THAT guy
Unfortunately, no

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what if one of us were to crowdfund a comic/manga contest?
i'm seriously considering doing this

>>93077711
I dunno, maybe. A little competition seems kind of fun.
What was your idea?

>>93077814
i didn't really flesh it out. i just thought about doing it and using some of my own money to help start it up. make it a monthly thing

>nobody comments on my comic much
I can't tell if that means there's nothing wrong or if it's not interesting enough

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It's making my life very busy, but I like that. Here's the link to it btw: https://cadavrevillewebcomic.tumblr.com/

>>93077920
Maybe a contest for one-shots based on different themes that everyone votes on after. I like the idea

>>93078486
this has to be fucking bait

oh man I want to make one eventually but I am shit out of ideas and shit at art, trying to get better though

Why doesn't /a/ ever have webcomic threads?
I feel like mine would be more well-received over there.

>>93080882
>They don't read japanese
>Manga has a healthy industry so the need and demand for webmanga is very low.
>Most webmanga is weeb anyways and by definition also a webcomic.

>>93080952
I just mean threads for people to share their webcomics and discuss/post progress and shit, but like, with a fanbase for animu and weebshit.

Most people on /co/ are understandably more interested in western stuff.

>>93080974
Unless you're japanese, A webmanga is a webcomic and the rules of /a/ don't allow it.
If you get an anime adaptation on the other hand...
You can talk about stuff like moomin or transformers on /a/.

>>93081018
Huh. So it's like Gelbooru and you legitimately can only discuss actual Japanese things and not just stuff that's inspired by it?

I thought I remembered seeing Avatar threads over there and shit but I must be crazy.

>>93080974
post yours who cares what we think, and I'd love to see it!

>>93070993
Where does everyone post there comics? Do you usually build your own domains, post on pre-built servers or do you just post on 4chan?

Curious on how you get people looking at your stuff.

>>93082004
I got a wordpress site as my main site and mirrors on Tapastic and Smackjeeves. For getting people to find my comic, I found TWC to be really helpful in promoting.

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>>93082004
I use blogger and my own domain/hosting so I can have control of my ads.
But lately I have been considering on using tapastic or whatever it's called now.

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>>93082004
I use Smack Jeeves.

It's cool because it basically lets you build your site from scratch or edit their templates as much as you want using HTML, and you can make all kinds of sub pages with their own HTML and the like.

The downside is as a user-friendly host they kinda suck. SJ doesn't do anything to help lesser-known comics gain exposure and only seems to care about stroking off the already-popular comics, which are mostly godawful, and the community is really small.

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I'm looking to hire anyone that is able to help me out with word press. I want a site that can post and display content like any manga site, separate chapters and stories and all.
Alternatively any kind of site maker can be used as long as the objective is met.
I appreciate any support and will pay anyone willing to intensively work with me for a bit.

>>93082497
>TWC
Time Warner Cable? lol mind if I get a name/link of your comic?

>>93082531
Mind if I get a link/name of your comic? I'm curious

>>93082547
Yeah I've been currently hosting on Smack and TheDuckComics. Duck comics is awful for exposure and the community is small, I only posted there because I used to back in the day.

But yeah, I'm digging the customizability of the html format on Smack. Too bad I'm real butt at doing any kind of html web design, so I just do what I can. My layout could use some help.

Mind if I get a name/link of your comic too?

>>93082657
>Mind if I get a name/link of your comic too?
Sorry but not at the moment. I've been working up the courage to share it here, and probably will soon, but wanted to finish working on a thing or two first.
And to be honest I to risk being associated with that kinda badmouthing of how SJ treats it's creators because I keep that shit to myself over there.

>>93082657
Lol, by TWC I meant Top Webcomics.
http://topwebcomics.com/

Here's my comic by the way, though it's currently on hiatus:
http://householdslimemold.com/

>>93082871
No worries anon, I'm cool with keeping things private too, I'm wanting to get to know the webcomic community a little better, and since I can speak with you guys in real time rather than in a comment log, it helps.

>>93082894
Oh well my goof. Awesome, I'll check this site out, maybe I'll post here too? I'd like to get the word out best as possible.
Also your style is very appealing, I love the designs of the characters too, I'll try and find some time to give it a read and hopefully let you know what I think.

>>93082497
Is TWC really that helpful?
I used it years ago when I first started but now it just seems kinda ghetto.

I've had better luck with some of the other stuff in that guide by the Miss Melee author. Particularly the Belfry.

>>93082982
Thanks man! I really enjoy Boy's Land too, by the way, love me some shounen monsters.

>>93083084
Honestly, TWC was most helpful to me because I joined a webcomic ring where people would vote for each other's comics everyday. It managed to bring me up to the first/second page of TWC and managed to bring in a lot of new readers, though. I think I usually got ~20 people coming to my site through TWC everyday when I was on the first page.

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>>93083291
Wow, TWC sounds nice when it comes to that. I'm real shit about staying active in a community though, I'm spending 80% of my day on work or sleeping, so I don't usually allocate the rest of my time to interacting with others much haha...

And thank you, I'm so happy you're reading and enjoying Boys Land so far. Seriously means a lot to me.
You're gonna get so many shounen monsters in the future. Just you wait! I know there's hasn't been a lot of action, but now that we have a better idea of how to write and set up this comic, I think we're gonna have more moments for the monsters to shine.
It's been a lot of build up, but promise, after Farm Land's arc, we'll be onto greater things lol

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>tfw you forget your wordpress password, and after failing to log in a few times your hosting locks you out from visiting your own website.
what the fug, so their system think I'm a hacker or something? I can't even visit my other domains in the same hosting. I'll have to talk with support.

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Finished this page of West Tree!

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>>93083409
>live talking to people

>>93083457
Are you using Photoshop/SAI/Clip Studio to finish your pages?

>Explosion powers
Now that sounds like a blast

a question.

Can I make comic requests here?


It's just that I want a comic, please.

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>>93083531
I'll allow it. What is your wish?

>>93083531
do whatever you want, these threads are containment areas for the autists and retards

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Starting my journey into making comics with a little slice of life thing for practice. Hoping to get a few more rough page sketches before I start finalizing anything.

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>>93083557
>>93083563


my Comic Requests is a Comic Of Lydia Fox (From Arthur)


With the original idea that Connor Gordon (the boy who created lydia for a contest) had for her

The comic would be of lydia (with 7 years of age)


while she was in a pool. and it is immersed in the shallow end of the pool, and suffered a spinal injury that paralyzed from the waist down.


http://arthur.wikia.com/wiki/Lydia_Fox#Character_development


http://www.swnewsmedia.com/savage_pacer/news/year-old-draws-new-arthur-friend/article_e4dae9f0-2eaa-5352-baac-c71fd47646f1.html


http://www.startribune.com/a-new-friend-for-arthur/44569532/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBKbUIyiPY

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>>93083484
>tfw no live support because normies are sleeping
>tfw it fixed itself as soon as I finished writing my passive aggressive letter
what an awful way to start my night

>>93083492
I'm actually using Medibang paint Pro to do everything!

It's the only art program that works with the pen of a microsoft surface.

>>93083612

I forgot about that program completely...I remember downloading it, but it doesn't really hold up to Clip Studio.

How does it feel making art on a Surface?

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I wonder if anyone is going to notice that the rifle is drawn differently in every panel I've done so far

>>93083794

depends if the rifle looks terribly different or not. I cheat a lot of things since keep consistency of complex shapes and interior textures is difficult to maintain.

>>93083644
If yout using a regular tablet, it can be weird drawing just on the screen at first, but you get used to it. It feels a lot like drawing on paper.

>>93083826
I use a bamboo at home and a cintiq at work, so I think I kinda know what you're getting at. I imagine a Surface is a bit more slippery, but I'll have to try one out

>>93082547
>>93082497

SmackJeeves let's you add your own ads to get some income? I have been thinking of maybe starting there because I don't really have the money nor fame to have my own domain and Tapastic intimidates me a bit.

>>93083867
Yeah but don't expect any real money from ads if you don't have an insanely popular comic.

Tapastic is trash and intimidation or not you should never use it. That site is cancerous to the webcomic community.

>>93083587
This raises so many questions.

>>93084372
If that's my comic request

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKshI6VrdFU

>>93083996
here's that grumpy grandpa with the vendetta against the times

>>93084570
Nice argument, now go back to reading Owlshit.

>>93070993
>rubber pencil rubber pencil rubber pencil
animation has always been allowed here, it's still sequential art.
I stick to making stuff out of balls and soft baglike shapes.. like kind of a pillow. for some reason i can draw really good pillows

>>93071172
how do you.. creative paneling like that? it never occurs to me. I have nothing to draw from. I guess I should read more comics, but when I do I skip over that stuff entirely and just imagine the scene as if I was there

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This one took a while but the extra effort makes a difference. I dunno if I'd say it's twice as good as a normal comic, though, so it taking over twice as long is perhaps not yet justified.

this amorphous cave gives me a little more freedom I think.

>>93073366
you've been here for that long but most of it was the red guys vs blue guys thing, we only recently found out it was gonna be reviews.. not that I have any problem with that, it's unique and cool

>>93075372
>>93075398
boy, talk about 'then draw the rest of the owl'
You're special, harro. Youre a ball-shaped robot of skill.

>>93077920
like that /co/ anthology thing from sometime back?

>>93082004
I used webcomic hosting back when that was a thing. Seems to be dying now. I still like it better. Lets the website kinda run itself and you just focus on the art, but not to the extent of a tapastic or webtoons where you have no fucking control and every site looks the same

>>93083576
This is some pretty deep stuff for something so cute and round. Neat.
My advice since you're still at this stage is to make more room for the woids and pull back once in a while so it's not always closeups

>>93083794
the only time I tend to notice things like that is if the old rifle was cool and this one isn't, or vice versa. if they're both cool i never notice

>>93084570
nahhh that's me. this is 'paranoid about the future and we-can-make-a-difference young-but-not-that-young-and/or-not-like-the-other-young-people-today' guy. grumpy grandpas cant be bothered to get this upset out of nowhere

working on a short story, using CSP. come chat

twitch_tv/fruitscs

>>93084907
The close-ups were primarily to hide his tiny body, but I get what you're saying and I'll be sure to do that for the pages that follow it, maybe also for this page as I refine it. Thanks, anon.

>>93084935
You're trying way too hard.

That site is a pain to read anything on. Just because you only read big blobby tumblr-style three-panel "so relatable lol depression and life is hard xD" comics on your phone doesn't mean everyone else in the world is just some grumpy old out of touch hipster.

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Here's this week's post.

>>93085291
Is there a reason the text colors change so haphazardly? I thought they were color-coded based on character at first but then it just swapped so that they both use green text.

>>93085291
All fucking furries must hang

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>>93085335
They are color-coded. I just made a mistake and didn't realize it until it was too late. Here's the fix. It should be correct on the site as well.

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To be quite honest dumping page sketches here in batches of three makes me feel mildly accomplished.

>>93085291
Really expressive stuff, you use the storyboards well. I love the lizard lady's little changes in expression in the last couple panels.

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>>93085426
Not sure if I should break up that wall of text in the big middle panel. On one hand, the character's dialogue is supposed to sound like crazy rambling, but on the other hand, big walls of text annoy me as a reader.

>>93085388
Looking at the fixed version I realize it really was just that one line that got miscolored, huh? That really threw me off.

>>93085426
Thank you much. I like your style as well. Even at the sketch level your characterizations read well. What's your comic?

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>>93085464

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>>93085377
Fuckin badass dude.

>>93085426
I always feel like a cunt when I'm blocking out text during the layout phase because it makes me realize how stilted and unnatural my dialog is. It never bothers me when I read SOMEONE ELSE'S stilted, unnatural dialog.

>>93085467
Yeah, that's one of the big weaknesses of the format I've chosen. One mistake like that can really fuck it up.

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Hello fellow anons, I want to ask for some advice on design here.

I want to make a webcomic with a "Life and Death as jobs" dynamic of sorts, but with Death being a guy who actually enjoys his job and gets a laugh at nearly-fatal accidents and Life being a bitter jerk who wishes she could just stop her job because all life is mediocre or self-destructive anyway.

Thing is I already have the Death character designed and thought, but Life is a greater challenge for me. A friend mentioned trying to go for elf-angel kind of look and although I got inspired by it, thing is I don't want her to look way too outdated.

Pic related are the best ideas I got at clothing so far. Those colors are used only for sketch purposes, they are not her color scheme I'm still trying to figure that out too. Any opinions or ideas?

I just want my taptastic shekels to be honest

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>>93085484

>>93085475
Thanks, it's this one >>93082894 though I'm working on a different comic right now.

>>93085486
>stilted, unnatural dialog.
:'(
Do you have any tips for making dialogue sound more natural? I try reading and acting it out until it sounds right to me and usually have a friend read over it as well, so are there any areas where it sounds particularly stilted?

>>93085581
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't actually read your page. I was just talking about how difficult it is to get over being too critical of yourself and becoming artistically inert as a result.

>>93085581
Good to know, I'll keep my eye out for it.

>>93085551
I find it helpful to think of clothing styles as like archetypes, because certain styles of clothing are so closely associated with certain character types and personalities. If she's seen as an angelic and mystical sort of figure, maybe some loose, flowing robes could do, and so forth.
To be honest designs 2 and 3 look very frumpy, as her clothing really doesn't complement her figure whatsoever. Design 1 is the strongest imho, from just an aesthetic standpoint, but doesn't seem to really mesh with the personality you described. My best advice would be to look at real world fashion.

>>93077536
jealous of that lineart. it looks like it took you can do it nonchalantly too

do you need to sketch any portion like the backpack or characters before you draw?

>>93085707
Yeah that's why I think I'm kind of digging myself into a deep hole with her, because she is kind of a subversion on the "all-happy all-loving Life personification" character. And so her personality clashes with that.

I will look on that advice and try again at some better wardrobe, thanks anon.

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>>93085565
Y'know you gotta give the guy credit, from the waist up he at least looks like he'd make a good b movie action character or something, unlike all the feodra+suit douchers.

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>>93070993
Still learning English, still learning how to actually draw. Still thinking that it should be full comic and not web-comic. But I found artist girl who is interested in drawing for me which is nice. May be I'll bring something real to the thread some day and not just a sketch.

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I need to come up with a pantheon of Heathen Spider Gods, each of which represent part of spider life. So far I was thinking their moon god would be called, like "The Shattered One" and be all physically broken, cause their moon is broke.

The bees are monotheistic and worship an entity they call the All-Empress (or the Queen of Queens)

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Anatomical problems aside, what can i do to render this so it looks passable in a manga, /co/?

How important is social media and websites these days for comics? Like I could make a website to promote stuff, but I barely use social media so I feel I wouldnt use it much. Plus I want to try putting a book together and getting published that way instead of going the webcomic route.

>>93086871
Making a twitter/tumblr/whatever for your comic can be a big help getting people to notice your stuff. Just add other artists and repost/comment their stuff and soon someone will take notice.
You could just post pages while your making your book and then advertise it to people reading your stuff on the blog.

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>>93082626
Okay it probably came off as a red flag to offer hiring and payment,
but I really need to find a way to make my web comic site work like a manga site. Any ideas?
Experience? Ever tried hiring anyone to do it? I read all the stickies but I'm not able to make technical progress. I'm asking for a friend here.

>>93086941

Not really a fan of tumblr and twitter, but theres plenty of other stuff out there to use, I'll give it some thought.

>>93087146
Do you want more attention or not?

Because it's not about what you like, it's about where people are, and people are on Facebook/Tumblr/Twitter/Reddit.

>>93077075
i hope your talking about me :) who are you talking about?

>>93087186
this. I know the "tumblr is for fags" is prevalant but so is "fuck marvel." If Marvel called your ass up right now I hope you wouldn't tell them to fuck themselves.

Tumblr may be a haven for life-questioning trannies to whine on, but it's also a decent spot to drop your comic. Give people some process shots and updates and they may begin to suck your comic's pp.

>>93080882
They show up every so often, there's just no constant general thread. It's not entirely uncommon for popular indie or fanartists to get hired by the franchise owners. Puchimas is a good example of what can happen to your joke doodles.

Bkub is a household name among indie webcomic artists related to /a/.

>>93083794
I'm more noticing that your lineart's looking different, a lot sharper and cleaner.

>>93085551
middle one looks really good...

>>93087135
I had that idea before, and the way I managed to pull that off with an automatic tool was using wordpress + comic easel plugin + comicpress theme

I don't quite remember if you really needed to use a comicpress theme, but I have the three installed. Comic easel is the key since it allows you to have multiple comics in one site. You just need to create different chapters and every time you upload a comic pick a chapter the comic will belong to. Then I guess you can -manually- create a homepage listing all the comics you have currently in your page.

I remember I had to make some little changes to the navigation menu so it won't move between chapters but I didn't code anything, it was all changes in the wordpress admin. I think...

Could anyone clear up what's the difference in revenue systems between tapastic, hiveworks and others like smackjeeves and TWC?

tapas: you get a small cut of ad revenue and can apparently link patreon etc

Hiveworks: ???

Tapas is open to everyone but hiveworks demands submissions and only takes high quality webcomics so I assume they provide some kind of revenue and / or service that is somewhat superior to tapas. However I saw nothing posted on the hiveworks wesite on this topic.

>>93087186
>>93088611

I know tumblr is good for exposure and exposure and everything, but its not the only thing out there. Plus I tried it once and found it confusing to use. So I'll look at my options and see what works best for me. I heard lots of people use wordpress for comics as well.

>>93090473
I know some Hive folks other than me frequent /co/. I say this because you'll have to ask them because even I don't know how it works. It seems to be a case by case basis. My team gets a stipend. But I know that's not true for everyone there

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>everyone posts while i'm asleep
that's messed up

>>93085426
>>93085464
>>93085480
Hearts in the "O"s, nice touch!
I think you put your characters in too many boxes though! Which is the only change I made in the attached pic (left), and what I think should also be changed in the first two panels of pg 15 (not attached).
I think the ramble could be approached in two more ways (attached).
Top right, if you want the readers to know what she is saying.
Bottom right, to depict the feeling that you stopped listening but you're still maintaining eye contact so she knows you're still kind of listening. This is done by cutting off the speech bubble, and having her go over the speech bubble and panel itself.

>>93085551
>Death being a guy who actually enjoys his job and gets a laugh at nearly-fatal accidents
I think this is why a few iterations of Death have him as Mexican, because of how they view death.
Anyways, I like #2 the most as well, I think it might be the way the shirt ends at the hips for the other two outfits that I don't really like. Are Life and Death supposed to be opposites? Because it seems like Life just wants everyone to die, or prefers death. I think most depictions of life are green, maybe yellow. In some cultures, white is more associated with death because people turn pale when they die.

>>93084796
Because I'm a fuckin' weeb, and the style that the original comic was drawn in had some anime/manga influence, I guess I just tried emulating the style.
Since it's a 4-koma (tl: 4 panels only), I had to find ways to efficiently use them.
Would my audience understand who Reiko is referring to in the second panel if I didn't point it out? Would they understand that Reiko is in despair the third panel if I didn't include a drawing of her face? These gangsters walk with a high and mighty air, people should be looking up to them, so let's draw them in perspective.

When I first seriously considered drawing a comic, paneling scared me the most because if I did it wrong I'd have to draw it again. But that's why we have storyboards, and this thread to act a community for feedback, to really plan out what we wanna do, and the most efficient way to do it.

Any other good sets of three? Like the maiden, the mother, and the crone. Id,ego, superego. That sort of thing?

Also, any good books on paneling action scenes? I always have a hard time deciding how many panels it needs to be clear, but not too drawn out.

>>93085480
lookin' reallll nice

>>93085565
>>93085484
where the fuck are people finding quality proportional nodachi like that? all the ones I ever see look super unbalanced

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>>93085820
That particular panel? No, it's kind of small panel-dimension wise, and the objects are relatively simple. When it's just a face I don't do any construction lines either. For poses and complex scenes with multiples characters or detailed background, I will do the construction thing.
Attached is my storyboard and the first two pages (right). The first page is dramatically different from what I initially planned. Here you can see some of my sketches.

My lineart is like the least part I like about it though, because I can't seem to find the right settings for smooth lines in SAI. I think someone mentioned it might just be my tablet, and that's true, that's super disappointing.

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>>93092111
The sword will balance itself in the hands of a true master.

>>93092132
>tfw have drawing associated with work so i never feel like doing it.
>whenever i do draw it's a 14 hour binge
nice work btw

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>>93092448
>work is not associated to art in any way
>feel guilty for drawing
can anybody win
Thanks!

>>93086422
I think I misinterpreted the question. What does it mean to render? Shadows and dimension?
The lines you drew for shading are spaced too far apart for the shadow they're suppose to represent. Your lines aren't very confident, as in they appear sketchy and fuzzy. I guess this is why I have these gaps in my lines, so that I can achieve a smoother stroke.
The hair doesn't need shading lines, shiny hair is pretty high-contrast, so highlights will work on their own.

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>>93089265
>>93091644

Thanks anons. I will look to maybe play with the robe clothes of the second design so it looks a bit less plain. Looking at elven fashion as I write.

>Are Life and Death supposed to be opposites?

Yes they are opposites on some aspects that are toyed with. Life has creation powers and is kinda like an artist, but got a few levels on cynicism after years of seeing how humans are destructive or find stupid ways to kill themselves, so she feels her job is mostly a waste (which I guess also plays on the stereotype of artists being angsty). Death is on the creative-sterility end and his job of death and destruction is one of the few things that brings him joy, because why focus on the things you can't do instead of enjoying what you can do?

Death was supposed to have some yellow colors because I saw in some color theory classes that yellow is also a death-ish color but having him in a white suit wouldn't look half bad thinking about it.

>>93085551
2nd one is very much what i would imagine Life dressing like. maybe in orange though.

>>93086132
I'm liking this
there's gotta be a god of molting, of regenerating limbs.. god of silk.. god of fertility carrying a massive egg sac..

>>93086422
make it so it's confident lines instead of scribbly, and looks like ink. like stark black and white. that's all you've gotta do. i know you werent asking for anatomical fixes but you know those eyes are too close together, right? and the left one (our right) is a bit too low too

>>93088611
i dunno, putting your comic on tumblr seems like putting your mailing address on 4chan

>>93086132
>>93092863
Don't forget a god that takes special care of the males that get eaten on the laid night, unless the story doesn't involve those rites from some species.

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ok I got a vague idea Id like to test out on ya'll

>astronaut gets teleported to the future planet of the apes style
>returns to earth to find it a barren wasteland inhabited by the living dead (not just mindless zombies, but living corpses trying to make the best of the apocolypse, but you got some of your standard stiffs too)
>protag cant die for some reason (its not revealed at first)
>story revolves around him trying to find out what exactly happened to the earth and why he can't die
>horror mystery tone

I'm sure it needs more fleshing out, I'm very open to suggestions

>>93093025

I'd focus on how realistic you want the comic to be.

From there I'd research a lot about the things astronauts have to train and go through so you can push the survival horror aspect of the story properly. Also make the astronaut's personality unique and memorable. It could be the thing that separates this story from others with similar plots and concepts.

>>93093329
good advice

>>93091993
>Any other good sets of three?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4pyiB-kq0

>>93070993

What are some of the things that will make a webcomic popular?

>>93092138
yeah but i want it to look cool too!!!

>>93092803
>a cynical artist sick of nothing working out like they wanted to make it
heh. dig it. i also like the chipper bright yellow death. If you wanted to be less blazing though he could wear a darker brown or black with just a lot of yellow trim, it would still be very distinct from the cliche black and white death

>>93093329
the realism thing is kind of tricky for me, I want to have a lot of occult themes throughout, so I'm not really sure how much realism I should go for.

I eventually want it to go cosmic horror

>>93093025
THE PLANET WHERE DEATH DIED
i like it. youd go full-on pulp with it, right? thematically.. but still be normal. like how fallout has that 50s theme running through it

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>>93091993
The father, the son, and the holy spirit
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
I came, I saw, I conquered
Hell, purgatory, and paradise
Christmas past, present, and future
The three bears?

For paneling, none that I can think of.

>>93093571
some parts would be,

there would be towns he walks into and theres corpses cleaning their gutters, walking their dead dogs, shooting the shit with dead neighbors, just carrying on like oh whatever.

others would be insane, zombie cults trying to kill themselves in various ways, Dead kingdoms using lesser dead as slaves to try and build an empire. Secret societies of dead scientist trying to bring back those who died before the apocolypse. Roams of desperate flesh eaters looking for the least rotted flesh to eat. Undead biker gangs enjoying the fact that they can't OD or drink their livers apart, embracing the anarchy.

I would certainly like some pulpy elements

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>>93092787
wow, thats a really good tewi. I have thought my mouths look really flat. thanks for showing me this

I have a really bad problem with shaky lines

>>93093661
yeah this sounds really good cosmic horror stuff

>>93092889
thanks! How do i prevent the scribbly preferably without a sketch layer? I mean, wouldnt that involve getting the form 100% right in one go?

>>93093920
>wouldnt that involve getting the form 100% right in one go?

Yes. But with Ctrl+Z you can take as many tries as you like.

Like with anything, it's all down to practice. The more you're used to drawing lines in one stroke, the less you'll need to rely on Undo.

>>93093920
real manga artists use a ruler to make parallel lines for shading or motion blur or whatever. they even have rulers with a bunch of curvy shapes..
digitally you can do it a lot more easily. you can make one line then paste it a million times, space it evenly, and erase the bits you don't want

I've been thinking about a concept for a webcomic I want to work on that is a spiritual successor to Tails Gets Trolled. It's called Gumbal Gets Mad which delves into Gumball going from being an innocent little kid to losing everything and walking down to path of madness with of shenanigans on the side.
Whaddoya think?

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>>93070993

well I just finished the cover page for my main project DEMON FUSE, and spellchecked the script this mourning and its still the best script I ever wrote in my life so this is easilly going to blow every other webcomic out of the water and be the undisputed best and greatest webcomic of all time. OF ALL TIME! The only problem is I cant decide on a cover page cuz look at all the different versions of this one I made from scratch in sketchbook pro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0u5RoByCg8

I think I need to add more fire to it... Im not sure yet. But this is going to be some amazing pages! The page sizes is going to be the same as the cover page size so its 4 times bigger and a much higher resolution than im used to drawing and working on. This will give a lot of breathing space to the word balloons which ive always had a problem of them smothering the art and the page, but now they will be super tiny like a mainstream marvel or dc or darkhorse or image comic how they have tiny word balloons and letter because there pages are 10 times bigger and over 4 times the resolution of webcomic pages, i know because I checked the sizes myself.

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>>93091644
>>93085480
>>93085464
>>93085426

hmmm..... she looks really familliar 1/3

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>>93094763

2/3

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>>93094789

3/3 ...im just saying.

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>>93094813

>>93091644

coincadence? I wish I could stick around to see the replies but I have to go, ill be back tonight or tomorrow. maybe.

Klaxton! That is poaching!

So how do you guys handle creating Divine entities?

>Try to make a comic TGT level
?Give up and cry that it takes to long to make something intentionally shit
What's wrong with me?

>>93096223
they should either be completely alien to our viewpoint or be intensely involved with people (at least emotionally). it's like, we either treat animals like things we super care about or like bugs we just want to kill and get rid of and/or just ignore. so some higher being would surely be the same to us. either caring or profoundly indifferent. and that should then guide the rest of the design decisions

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>>93096223
These are the supernatural beings in my lore,
donut steal.

1. God
2. Angels
3. Aliens (demons disguised)
4. Elves (demons as well)
5. Ghosts (demons)
6. Robots (demons)
7. Talking animals (demons)
8. Vampires (demons)
9. Humanoid beasts (all demons)
.
.
.
576. Travelers from parallel dimensions (demons)

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Took 2 weeks off for a little hiatus and got right back to it.

>>93096223
Divine as in literal gods I like to take more inspiration on how the gos from other pantheons used to work. Egyptians have some cool interactions and Greeks excell at being really involved with their humans. You can have some that are alien like the Abrahamic God and play with it.

Now for Divine in the sense of "they are just Lovecraft-like aliens", it varies. Mostly they will remains blue and orange morality unless they spend too much time around humans because of course humanity is an infection.

>>93096517
>Hello protagonists I'm a-
>Stop trying we already know everyone are demons
Actually really funny anon.

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Design of one of my character's room. Considering changing the design of the speakers, and maybe add a plant or something.

>>93097167
nice room. little spartan.. gonna put posters up?

is joomla an okay format to post a webcomic?

>>93097357
it depends. ask me like i'm over 17

>>93097245
Not likely, just because people tend to drift toward posters more and they can be very telling about the person who owns them.

>>93097357
What's a joomla?

I don't mind making a few basic web layouts for people who wanna make their own website. The only problem is that I've never really made a website for my own host, so I'm not really sure how that process is.
I test them out on notepad, but otherwise have only made layouts for tumblr/neopets, and once a long time ago on smackjeeves. I'm also familiar with freewebs, if that's anything like editing your own site.

>>93097496
so you don't want us to know anything about the character? I don't get it.

>>93097357
Joomla's just the back end, like Wordpress, isn't it?
With Wordpress, some themes are better than others for displaying comics (with some designed specifically for comics), so I'd imagine the same would apply to Joomla. It'll depend on the themes and templates you apply to the layout.

>>93097522
They like music and a good view. I guess I really just wanted to show the room, I'd rather have people get impressions of my characters based on their actions and how they interact with other characters.

>>93097656
oh i see, you don't wanna rely on a shortcrutch. got it

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>>93093544
Thanks anon. And thanks for the advice too, I will give that recolor a try too. For now Life has new colors and a bit less-plain robe.

>>93099280
now that looks like Life to me. Torso might be a little oversized, it's hard to say with that shirt length. You might also consider modifying it into a poncho, everyone loves a poncho.
I also feel like she's a little bit to 'restaurant' at the moment. what would happen if you swapped the red and green?

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So I saw this image in a thread that died super fast. How different are your males from your females? I personally like manly man and small girls. Might doodle an example once I'm home.

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>>93084826
I posted about the reviews long before I started working on vegabond actually. I think my first post here even said that I was simply working on animated assets for old shareware reviews but the project became a lot more elaborate (and less shitty) as time went on.

I posted this first picture on the left that I had drawn with a mouse in paint.net of my then unnamed narrative character probably a year and a half ago in these threads for criticism and advice. In comparison, my most recent drawing of him is on the right.

I took a break for a while since I had a lot going on at the time and revamped it all a year ago with what I learned in these threads as well as new equipment. Vegabond I just started posting about roughly 8 months ago.

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>Pip leaves the thread and immediately starts improving.

Why the fuck are you all still trying?

>>93100047
I have never seen either of those
my females just have softer rounder cheek lines, typically pointier chins, and thin, distinct eyelashes instead of a thick, dark eye line of thick, integrated lashes

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>>93099806

The torso is a bit of a trick because of how loose the belt is, it may give that feeling of being oversized plus with the dress/robe. As for the poncho I thought of it on early drafts but didn't find a way to make it work properly because I had no idea what I was doing really. They look cute I admit.

>I also feel like she's a little bit to 'restaurant' at the moment
Fuck now I can't take that out of my mind.

>>93084820
This is quite amusing. I especially liked the delayed response of the lettuce man about the homework. Punchy.

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>>93094669

ok its done now? I think. Yeah it looks good now............. ok im thinking instead of uploading pages as soon as im done with them to the internet with a ton of spelling errors and anatomy problems and missing stuff, this time around when I finsh a page im going to sit on it for a day or 2, baby sit it until im sure its perfect enough for the public.

im doing everything different this time around because I want this shit to be perfect! im going to put 110,000% into it and make it the best webcomic ever! You'll see. :^)

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>>93100047

>spongebob teeth

>>93090503
Where you host your comic doesn't matter.
Where you go to try to generate interest and find new readers does.

>>93100047
Usually is the eyelashes for women and sideburns for men. I would have said my girls have a bit rounder faces but usually the cute chubby guy has a similar face and other times girls have larger faces like most of my guys. Suffering from only six faces doesn't help neither, I'm trying to improve.

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>>93100135
The effect on the pants (left) look really cool! But I definitely like the design on the right better.
How about gracing us with some short comics, I just really wanna see your guys in action.

>>93100528
I dunno, I still don't really dig it. She likes art right? Maybe make her look like an art student. Or maybe make her look like Renaissance art? Pic related is from the designer Marchesa, I've been taking a lot of inspiration from it lately.

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>>93101035
Thanks, I actually have the same mosiac effect on the later dupe's clothes as well it's just a lot more subtle. And yeah I had a short comic planned but it turned into a spoilery key scene pretty late in the comic's script. I don't know if I should just do it anyway as a "teaser" or if I should just start fresh on a random scene not included in the finished comic.

>>93100528
mmm the new right version looks good (and i love both ponchos but i dont blame you if you dont use those since they are not easy to draw in different poses). my only thought now is... is the scarf a bit thick perhaps, and tight around the neck? i'd like to see it a little looser if you're still taking suggestions.

>>93100542
Thank you! cabbage, actually.
delayed responses are my jam! what I do is have someone say something because i think it's clever, forget why it's clever, put it in anyway, work on the comic, then later realize what I would say, if someone actually said that, in that situation.. but there's no time for an immediate response, so it goes in later, in that annoying blank space I had left.

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>>93101035
>art student
The scarf is the student token.

>Renaissance
I think that is something I can try, although I stick more to the old times.

>>93101470
Sure I'm still taking. Looser like this?
I'm personally digging the poncho actually, gives her more of a fitting opposite to Death who dresses a bit too formal and ponchos look more carefree (or lazy). I think I still own one big enough so it would be a matter of looking at the mirror if I want to try different poses.

>>93091644
Thanks for the crit! For the first page I'm definitely planning with playing with the paneling a bit more once I get to adding adding, y'know, the actual panels. Removing some of those panels borders in the middle row might actually be a good idea, since it makes the art seem a little less cluttered, I might steal that from you!
I definitely want to keep all of the girl's dialogue readable in the second, though. I'm thinking about breaking the dialogue up over several panels to let her gesticulate more, but fitting them all in is a little tough.

>>93093406
furries and subtle fetish catering

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Here's a character that may appear someday.

>>93101924
yeah that immediately looks better. wouldnt want it choking the life out of her. plus having your arms invisible is inherently emo.
woo, modeling for your own comic is always a good idea.

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I've been lurking at least a few months and decided to post.

I'm trying to decide if I made a mistake and didn't have enough of a transition between the second and third pages of this sample, and what I should do about it.

The brunette is a superhero and the simple (not quite accurate) explanation is that having powers make her very voluptuous, and her natural body is like on the first two pages. It's been shown that her powers might be going away, and when they conk out for any period of time, she reverts to the less voluptuous natural form, and it's been happening regularly.

Well, some people were confused about the quick jump from the one page to the other, where time has passed and she's changed physiques again. I thought it has been explained enough, and I'd just switch her without comment.

I figure I need to either-

Add a page between the second and third of these pages displaying time has passed, setting up this third page and re-explaining her body issues.

Or add a narrow panel to the beginning of the third page here trying to display time has passed.

Or decide its not a big enough problem to fix.

>>93102711
I assume anyone who reads the comic would understand that rule by now, right? So they would get it. It's not as if these are the first pages.
Honestly until i heard 'powers give you J-cups' I was kinda into this. It looks good, it reads well.. by the way, it's spelled psychic. assuming you didn't mean 'physical'
anyway, a little yellow rectangle in the top left saying "Later:" is all you need

What's the bump limit on this board? This isn't a loaded or rhetorical question or anything, just genuinely curious.

>>93102895
500 posts

tfw comic is so bad you want ot end it all

>>93101031
so you have 3 faces for girls and 3 for men? I always thought girl faces were tougher to draw since you need to play a lot with small details (specially eyes to make them different and keep them cute at the same time). Also I learned long ago that trying to keep them different using different hairstyles was a crime.

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>>93103857
>tfw comic is good but you're lazy as fuck

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>>93102679
Thanks for all the advice anon, and other anons as well. You really helped me with this girl. Later on I will play on with Death with the other advice on color I was given, won't kill to try it out.

>>93103967
Well I meant six faces as the trope per se (yeah I know, TvTropes, but still http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnlySixFaces) but some friends have indeed said I don't have much variation with faces.

Pic related, a very quick sketch of the faces I use more often. As you may see, I don't have much variation of face shape, I have like only 3 noses and the eyes are either round or straight or a mix between. They are mostly archetypes so far with how many characters I have done using similar templates. And although my example may not be the best for this to say, you don't have to make a girl look cute per se. Is mostly a subconscious thing we do, but you can play with their shapes. And yes you are right that only making different hairstyles is not enough to make people not a clone.

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Some designs for angels. I really like the idea of using feathers for hair.

>>93104558
They look really neat anon, specially the one with them all over the head and mouth.

>>93104617
Thanks! I should have mentioned, but all the female angles can do that, sort of like an intimidation technique. Guys have feathers on their head, but not wings.

>>93104365
I can see your problem: cheekbones to you are like necks were to me 12 years ago: they don't exist. start experimenting with giving faces less of a flat edge by giving people a brow ridge and cheekbones, you'll have a whole new dimension of proportions to play with

>>93104558
fucking love this. I love hair feathers too, and head-wings, but i've never managed to integrate them quite this well.
that girl at the end is damn cute too.

>>93104668
males that LACK head accessories? you damn bes' be jokin, son
or do they have something even bigger and better than wings?

>>93104759
Sorry if I sound like I'm asking for too much spoonfeeding, but do you have examples for the cheekbones? I must admit I never really tried working with that, nor brow ridges for that matter but cheekbones look like a bit trickier to do.

>>93104860
sure m80 lemme just redline for you

>>93104779
Thanks! I'm probably gonna do some short comics with them, since I planned them pretty late into my comic.

>>93104793
Oh yeah, crippling depression.
They have interesting head accessories, and are overall more colorful than their female counterparts, but their wings are on their arms. Pretty standard.

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>>93104860
>>93104916
consider your ass fed by my spoon, good buddy
as someone that sucks at drawing I appreciate being able to help people then watching as they immediately become way better than me with practice

>>93104958
So they are kinda like birds but played with? Females have the gimmicky and flamboyant feathers on their head while males have more colors?

>>93104958
yeah okay that sounds cool. reaaal cool

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>>93105002
Thanks a lot anon! I will give a good use to your teachings I promise. You are a good person and wish you the best too.

>>93105002
oh and as you can see, sometimes i changed more than other times. My original point being: you can vary this up a lot. some people have puffy fat cheeks you just wanna pinch, some have a flat-ass face looking like the bony thigh-gap pelvis of faces. Some have a heavy manly brow, some have a flat one, some have a NEGATIVE brow that slopes backwards (black people)

>>93105020
>like birds
that meme again. it's all animals, anon. not just birds. that includes us.
given how these head-wings seem to point immediately downwards, though, it makes sense. I'm imagining the males' head feathers point more upwards and spread out going up, not down.

>>93105090
It helps if you think of the skull, too! If you turn a skull around a little, you'll see the far edge of the eye socket pulling inward a bit, so you'll never see an eye kind of hitting the side of the face and stopping. That's why so many cartoons have eyes that DO run off the edge of the face, they're imagining if our eyes were so big and spherical that they bulged right out of the socket.

>>93105124
I'm sorry but what meme?

>>93104558
Love these angel designs btw, really nice median between beautiful and creepy. What's your comic going to be about?

>>93105176
He means that most people seems to think only birds have gender differences and love rites. While it's true that it is not exclusive to birds, birds are one of the most outstanding examples because some of those males are extremely more flamboyant and colorful than their females.

>>93105202
yeah birds are the most visible example of it, but the way you hear some people talk, you'd think they were backwards from other animals. that's the standard for all of them (unless both sexes look the same)

>tfw no progress made today

Feels p shit anons.

>>93105091
>>93105155
Thanks again. I swear I'm learning more in just a few posts than what I did in some years and that is both motivational and depressive. Still will do my best.

>That's why so many cartoons have eyes that DO run off the edge of the face, they're imagining if our eyes were so big and spherical that they bulged right out of the socket.

>Remember those "if cartoons were realistic" drawings.

It makes so much sense now. Still disturbing.

>>93105319
glad to help. wish I had people like me around when I was starting to get good. A lot of people don't seem to understand how to custom tailor their advice to what a person is already doing, they're laser-focused on 'the right way' and how anything else is wrong. Imagine if navigation systems did that
>start over. go back to loomis avenue
sure, studying the skull first, or rigidly conforming to some example face exercises, but if you're continuing to draw your way, you'll enjoy it and thus remember it better. It's just little tweaks and steps. Each one leads to the greater whole, a piece at a time.

>>93105020
Yeah! But I also took some inspo from seraphims. They're pretty scary looking. I think I'll have them lay eggs too, 'cause why not.

>>93105176
Thanks! My comic is just like a bunch of short stories that are all somehow related to this mysterious company in the mountains.
First 'arc' is about a guy who collects teeth.

>>93090143
thanks, I'll give that a try

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is this funny?

>>93106739
if you're 12

>>93106785
>99% of internet is 12 year olds
Perfect.

>>93106739
No.

>>93106739
>those fill bucket artifacts on Fifi's eyes
it's a comedy of errors, i guess
besides that, one of the more easily rectifiable of the many, many mistakes here is that the first two panels accomplish jack shit

>>93106739
Is it at least going to be ironic?

>>93106739
The "Tee h-" part should have kept the silly font.

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>>93106860
is this better?

>>93107456
Now there's really no joke at all. You should just go back to the drawing board on this one, and stay away from the edgy humor.

You're right, that is a typo. "Psychic" is what I meant.

I do hear a lot that people aren't willing to consider reading a comic about a busty character, or a character as busty as her. I kind of wanted to take a cliche idea and play it straight, and also a Powergirl-like overly busty superhero seems more unusual than the opposite. There's usually a really busty character in each of my comics, but it's not usually the lead, so it doesn't usually bother people as much. It was probably a mistake here.

I kind of wanted to take a normal, happy enough woman and have her change in a way that other comics would have solve all her problems, or make every guy after her, or make her hate herself- and do none of them.

Powers don't make people busty exactly, just her. She had weak electrical powers, and was part of an experiment to increase them. It worked, but usually altering powers causes side-effects. Unlike other characters, she didn't change color, grow giant, even turn into a tree person. She uses her increased electrical powers to fuel things, like a flying super-suit.

>>93097167
thats a 4000 dollar chair boii

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>tfw you learned from all the CAD bashing to keep the text to the minimum but it also forces your characters to communicate by gestures and expressions more often so it takes you longer to draw a page..

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Well I did say I would give a try to the colors suggested by >>93093544 anon and making use of this newfound knowledge of cheekbones, I did the thing.

And then I went a bit beyond with this because I actually liked how the base turned out. I probably should go to sleep by now, truth be told I haven't been so active drawing on a long while. Also English is not my first language and "yellow trim" on google gave me weird results. Please don't bully.

>>93108831
Is not that you should use as few text as possible, is more about not stockpiling all of the text in a very little space, although that still forces you to add more gestures because otherwise it would look like a Bendis panel. Stay strong anon.

>>93108598
>You should just go back to the drawing board on this one
Sure.
Make sure to check back or come to the next hywc

I've been lurking here for quite a while and finally decided to share a few ideas of mine.
So I've been thinking about making a comic for a few years now and I'm already working on it (kinda). I have some important plot elements,characters,locations etc. The only thing I still need to do is link them together. I also already have an ending in mind.
Now that's where I need your help,/hyw/.
I should probably start with the actual story.
It's about a girl who falls into another dimension (kinda like Alice in Wonderland). That dimension is mostly inhabited by Angels and Demons. She soon discovers that she is an Angel herself and is destined to save this dimension from an evil organization who tries to destroy said dimension and enter the human world (sounds cliché I know but it's more than that I swear). On her journey she befriends an artificial demon (who used to be a human) and an Angel/Demon hybrid.
Now the story is mostly centered around the girl and her mysterious past she doesn't remember. I'm gonna skip a few things in between and get right to the ending. (Spoiler warning I guess but I'll never get that far anyway soo...). They manage to defeat the leaders of that organization and escape but the girl sacrificed herself in the process. Now that's where I wasn't really sure what to do. I thought about her being resurrected but then her death would be pretty pointless and I'm really trying to avoid things like that. In another ending she's actually dead but still lives in another world where she visits her friends in their dreams (maybe something for a sequel?). Now I have no idea how to pull this off.
Sorry if this was a bit long but I just wanted to write this down somewhere.
What are your thoughts about this? Any advice on what to do?

>>93104558
>seraphim reveals eyes when angered

Noice. Now do a cherubim.

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>>93108823
>tfw you could have become a designer or architect but ended up as a webcomic artist on NEET bucks instead

>>93110665
You're asking for advice on the plot of the sequel? Maybe you should produce the first part to determine if a theoretical sequel would have ground to stand on.

What is the heart of the story? What's the main thematic thrust of it? For what reason would the protagonist die? Having this character's story and the events take place solely for a reason like destiny says to an audience that you can't find a logical reason for these things to take place past the universe (you, the writer) forcing it. Destiny has been used well in the past, but in recent years it has become a huge crutch.

Having your main viewpoint come from another dimension is wasted potential. An inexperienced viewpoint is useful as it justifies people throwing exposition at them, but they don't need to be from an entirely different dimension to be inexperienced. A character entirely out of context is going to respond to pretty much every part of their foreign surroundings in the same way, as they're unacquainted with everything they come across.

How do you justify all these decisions? What will make this story different from all those old YA novels and movies about modern day people being sent to another world to save it?

>>93100047
I don't know, I don't really have sex based templates or whatever

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Back on the page train after a week's break

>>93108823
>$350,000 speakers
You ever just walk into a house and see one really expensive item

>>93107456
this one is okay, you just need proper layout, the joke must be a surprise in the last panel
you don't need to go on and on after the big reveal.
That's how see it, but I'm accustomed to the 4koma style
Keep the girls cute though, cute girls can commit genocide and still get away with it (as long as they are cute)

>>93114448
Is that watercolor? Looks nice

>Vigor Mortis
Fun

>>93114448
>Rude.

This guy is pretty covfefe, I like him.

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>>93115834
Yeah, it is - cheers!

>>93115946
Sounds about right.

>>93100135
Sollux?

>>93108748
as much as people make fun of her, Peej is a normal size. her breasts fit nicely on her chest, you couldn't see them from behind her. breasts bigger than your head is where it starts getting bizarre.
Still, the issue here isnt that, i mean you can do whatever you want. The issue is more that her powers inexplicably gave her big boobs, and not anything else that always comes with that. Like, if her powers made her fat overall, that would make sense. Boobs that big without a uniform increase in fat all over the body are positively anomalous. at the very least it should also increase the fuck out of her hips and everything else, if it just sort of turned up her womanliness genes or whatever.
But in particular the idea that they repeatedly change size, not just once and then permanent, is where it loses me.

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>>93108867
yeah sorry I knew I should have been more specific. the closest to what I had in mind is the furthest to the right, but what I actually thought is maybe one or two thin stripes running along the edges of the collar, cuffs, etc. PIPING, that's it. I should have said 'piping'
like this black suit has white piping. if he had a black suit with yellow piping (and even better, double lines of it instead of single) and maybe a yellow shirt instead of white, that would be a really slick look. intense, but still elegant and understated. or maybe even a black undershirt with a yellow tie.. but no i think yellow shirt would work better.

>>93111637
anal jewaboo here
-im is plural. the words you're looking for are seraph and cherub
though yes you can also refer to a singular in the plural to denote its vastness

>>93108867
The black suit with yellow pinstripes is pretty classy. You should look into proper suit fitting, though, just to make sure this dude's wearing his suit properly.

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Latest chapter is up for anyone who is interested. Working toward to big finish. Monster fights and cool battles to come.

http://boysland.thewebcomic.com/archive/#ch_99546

>>93118129
I actually like the way the suit is definitely not fitted normally, the jacket looks more like a robe in some ways. that gives him a timeless feel and more flexibility
the problem with pinstripes is from a distance they just look like the color of the suit is dingey, and i wouldnt wish having to draw them over and over (and keep them parallel ) on my worst enemy

>>93118524
such action
did tigre always have legs like that?
it's so hard to choose a favorite character on that last poll but man, if doctor wasnt already movin up in the list.. this one.. makes that even moreso

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>>93116915
Oh so that's what you meant. Thanks for the acclaration.

>>93118129
Well I kind of did. He has a bit of a 20s-30s fashion for suits, since he has a gangster theme going mostly, so I too references from there.

A bit on the subject but I saw that many photos of the era show more open jackets than buttoned ones, or use open longcoats over open jackets over vests -damn guys had cold-. I know the idea is to show the classy vests, but still interesting.

>>93118640
I must admit pinstripes may be hard especially if I have to draw him a lot, but there shouldn't be a problem if I don't make them too small -which is a mistake I did in the rough study here-. I hope. Still looking on it.

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>>93118802
Yeah! Tigre since his deput in the comic has had elephant feet (this page not being the debut), his original design he was just a tiger monster with tiger limbs.

Thanks, I hope you vote soon, and you can pick more than one. We'll be using the results we get by the end of this weekend.

Oliver was introduced late into this arc, so we wanted to make sure he was useful and likable enough for people to care about him.

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>>93118640
That just means the suit is fitted badly, and makes him look more like a frumpy teenage boy at prom than anyone to be taken seriously. The suit is already such a long standing article of clothing in the western world it's pretty timeless as is.

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>>93118855
>>93108867
Suits with color? Look no further than with Les Sapeurs.

>>93118894
I did vote, but it was hard
>you can pick more than one
wait really? well it's too late now, it will hvae registered my vote

>>93119048
>The suit is already such a long standing article of clothing in the western world it's pretty timeless as is.
i kind of hate you, but the worst thing about modern suits is how tight they are, so.. no. the embodiment of death should look comfortable, shouldn't he? dude in your picture looks like he's having trouble breathing or bending his knees

I agree, Powergirl is only marginally bigger than the other women. She's joked about for almost no reason. Although here I intended to intentionally make someone who fit that stereotype.

She mostly likely would have gained weight everywhere, but the plan was to try to take a really cliche origin and then try to make it into a semi-plausible story. She is a bit more curvy everywhere, but it seems to have been marginal enough that it's not noticeable.

The only reason I could come up with about why she might have grown was that extra mass might be required for being able to hold more electricity. She's small and short, smaller than the other woman who went through the same thing and didn't change.

She hasn't been repeatedly changing size through the series, there have been years of comics and it's only been a recent issue. There were obviously strange elements to her increase in powers, so I thought a scare about her powers going away would be interesting. It'll eventually be resolved, and she'll stick to the more busty form from then on.

>>93119051

They look classy and fab as hell, I admit.

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>>93119101
The thing about a well fitted suit is that it's made to fit the wearer, as the name implies. When a suit is too tight that means it's fitted badly

Also, for the dude with the death character, here's a guide to suits:
http://www.artofmanliness.com/2013/09/25/good-fitted-suit-visual/

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>All this suit discussion

On one hand I'm glad people like suits enough to analize my character, but on the other hand I don't really want anybody to fight over tailoring. I'm open to advice.

>>93119202
Checking this guide seems most of my problems are with the sleeves and trouser break which I must admit was mostly just negligence on my part. Jacket lenght seems about right (kinda the height of half the hand) and shoulders are checked too. Maybe the closure needs a bit of fixing but that goes mostly with V shapes I think, since I have seen many suits with differences in there.

Thanks for the guide anon, was really handy. And also makes me realize a lot of gangsters really had some sort of street fashion because they sure used a lot of loose pants and trousers. Really the more time passes the less we change, hu.

>>93119379
>pants and trousers

I meant jackets and trousers, my bad there.

>>93119139
So this is like the third time now i've had a reply that isn't a reply. you DO know how to reply on 4chan, right? you click the 8-digit number and it appears like this

>>93119202
It's impossible for cloth that rigid and inflexible to "fit" a wearer who owns joints. suits look sort of aesthetic as long as you stand still (if your idea of aesthetic is to get as far away from the natural body as possible), but once you move they look ridiculous. and if you sit, you get so many folds up in front that it looks like a polyboner

>>93116684
>evry tiem
>only homestuck uses red and blue so original

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>>93119577
No? Please don't give advice if you have no idea what you're talking about

>>93119977
that just looks awful, but that guy also must be unbelievably thin. i don't know how those pants are doing that, but i've never seen slacks do that before

>>93117034
Thanks, as a German I can appreciate grammar Nazism.
Aren't the different casts of angels mentioned in both the Tora and bible though?
Christian mythology is pretty enjoyable on a story level if you can look at it removed from its grave impact on western culture and society.
I think Arronofsky did a great job at capturing that spirit the same way many artists draw from greek or asian mythology. Too bad Noah was a massive flop.

>>93120049
I think it's a matter of fabric. Not all cloths work the same.

>>93071515
i appreciate that the last time i came here was during the obama era and you are still delivering the same piping hot content

>>93120091
eh I can't get into the catholic fanfiction, it's all so clearly and sloppily recycled and relabeled. but it is a lot more copious and interesting than the canon
>grave impact
instead of getting mad, i'm just going to correct you
sole impact*

>>93120177
indeed. I've just never seen slacks with that kind of fabric. I got the impression they were contractually obligated to be awful knit shit with zero flexibility

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>>93120336
I once had to try some suits from my father and brother because I had no formal clothes for my college title photos, and they feel really flexible and even soft. Some photo studios have cheap ones and they feel awful, and those are indeed just to stand for the photo and look pretty and that's it.

Now I tried the pining >>93116915 on both colors mostly because I have been doing this guy on yellow far too long than what I should have so it's kinda like his base, and yeah a black undershirt on black suit is not really good looking, get's more lost than just a tie.

I also added the fixes I mentioned on the guide post, but left some of the loose stuff because I want him to still have some gangstah feeling even if it isn't 100% correct.

>>93120521
yeah i guess in my head there was yellow piping around the collar so that the black shirt would still be visible, but now that I think of it, that isn't how collars work. the inner bit is a fold, it would never have piping.
so basically what you did here is perfect and I like it. It even has a subtly chinese look to it, especially with the high shirt collar and the three buttons, and the comfortably wide ankle cuffs (usually even roomy zoot suits have gross narrow wrists and ankles that I hate) so I'm thinking this is perfect to my eyes. The far right's my favorite. Wouldnt change a damn thing..
except maybe the ponytail wrapping could be yellow too.

>>93119707
I think it may just be the same poster every time trying to bug me. I admit that the very first drawing looks a bit like sollux but I think the newer iteration after listening to critique has very little in common other than 3d shades and black hair.

>>93120521
Honestly the piping looks rather gaudy, it looks more like something for a school uniform than an actual suit. The previous designs looked better imho, though the actual suit drawings here are improved.

>>93120316
Well, I wasn't really looking to seriously discuss religion in this literal amateur picture book thread but I have to agree.
Pretty much any religion can be maticulously traced back to more ancient religions, myths and legends - which makes it so hard for me to understand how people can have faith. Don't get me wrong, religion can be beneficial to society and can provide comfort in personal life (the lack of which I personally struggle with very much.)
But I just can't accept a religious scripture as the word of God when there's (as with catholicism) so much evidence of retcons and rewrites to the point of the original scripture being virtually gone. >inb4 God made pope #n cut out parts x, y and z because that's how the bible was always intended from the start
It's funny how many people who consider themselves believers aren't even aware of facts like that...

>>93120928
obviously the correct one is the original. is that so hard to believe? we have at least two religions who date back so far you can't prove anything came 'before' them (not that it stops fedora "scientists" from claiming they have anyway): judaism and hinduism. and given that the ganges is fucking toxic..
>original scripture being virtually gone
that's where you're wrong, good chum. jews have always been meticulous record-keepers. everything (in the correct version) is exactly the same now as it's ever been, except a few little issues on a few numbers or slightly ambiguous words. dead sea scrolls helped us with that, for sure. the catholics certainly did their best to try to hide and stamp out the original, but failed, naturally. it reallly isn't that complicated.
but yeah it's true most poeple aren't aware of diddly shit.

But in any case, the mythology IS way more fun. I have to wonder what kind of ultra-anal clergymen were sitting around making all those downright autistic lists of types of angels and demons and circles of hell, how many can fit on a pin, all that kinda insanity..
Meanwhile your rabbis (who kept their stuff to a separate text at least) were sitting around nitpicking the tiniest details of whether it's wrong to let a bird see you while you take her eggs.. somewhat less... artworthy.
But they still have some mythology too. a couple neat monsters here and there. shit like the Re'em.

>>93119553
Haha, apparently not. I thought you needed to click on the checkbox beside a post. I hadn't even noticed they weren't listed as replies.

Any advice on how to structure a webtoon? I really like the vertical format and thematic nature of webtoons, but I'm having trouble laying out my own. Any advice, or good tutorials out there?

>>93121391
that's okay, this is not a very well-designed site. the checkbox is for deleting and reporting posts, you check the box then go down to the bottom and hit those delete or report butt'ns

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Should i keep the yellowy tone or nah?

>>93121433
What do you mean by "structure?" Panel layout?

>>93121391
christ this place has become normie and retard cecntral

>>93121512
Yes, the panel layout is confusing to me.

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>>93120678
>>93120829

Thanks for all your advices anons, is good to receive different opinions. To be honest I may play with the designs and make him own more than just one suit, mostly because it can bring a joke or two when I begin actually doing the comic itself.

>>93121433
What I have noticed on most webtoons is that when there is a "suspense" panel they leave enough blank space for it to be separated from both the upper and below ones. Also very long blank spaces when it is a cliffhanger for a scene and transition to other one.

I don't know tutorials for them, and I personally would recommend checking what other webtoons do and learn from that. I don't really like the format because it feels like too much waste of blank space, but that is me being picky.

>>93121475
I would have said to keep it if the title wasn't "white light". It's a subtle yellow but you can see it isn't pure white and it clashes a bit. A bit dirty even.

>>93121576
Read Scott McCloud's books Making Comics and Understanding Comics, they're written for a more western approach but pretty much sum up everything you need to know about comic paneling.

Making Comics: https://www.scribd.com/doc/172659339/Scott-Mccloud-Making-Comics-Storytelling-Secret-BookFi-org
Understanding Comics: https://www.scribd.com/doc/208551392/Scott-McCloud-Understanding-Comics

>>93121475
i don't detect any yellow. quite the opposite

>>93121577
>more than just one suit,
that's what i figured you'd do. they'd just follow the black and yellow theme.

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>>93100695

Ambe and Emer are the sons of Kra Lucifuge, who is the son of Lucifuge the god of darkness, not to be confused with Lucifuge rofocale who is just a lowly duke of hell and has no relation to Lucifuge the god of darkness, same name, different people.

Throughout human history every god, angel, demon, titan, etc has been bound to a heavenly body, you see this in greek mythology, roman mythology, even in hindu mythology the red dot on their head represents the red star mars, um, even islamic and jewish mythology, and christian mythology, in jewish mythology the star of david is the star of saturn the god of banks, and money and crops, and liberation who liberated the jewish people out of egypt, ya know? Always a star, even jesus is tied to the sun, and a literal son who i believe personally to be Belial the father of lucifer, to worship lucifer or jesus christ would be to worship the light and the sun, and son. Get it? Lol. The cross they say he died on is a symbol to represent the sun crossing the sky and at the same time the son crossing over to the other side after dying, get it? Lol. When you put your hands together to pray to jesus the ball shape you make with your closed hands together represents the sun and your arms look like the rays of the sun making a pyramid shape, try it out in front of a mirror to see.

But Lucifuge is also connected to a heavenly body, the body its self, the infinite endless darkness of space and time, that is why Lucifuge is the most powerful god in all of time and existence.

All of this is explained in DEMON FUSE my new webcomic. You'll see.

sketchbook pro, original characters!

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>>93122951

heres some older concepts before this one

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>>93122977

and heres a story board of the secondish page where their father is telling them stuff about who they are, here is a qoute from the script I made:

Kra: "My sons..."

“On the day you were born the very darkness its self shouted your names like a great explosion that echoed throughout every corner of existence. You are the grandsons of our god, my father, Lucifuge, the god of darkness!”

"When this world was young and empty, I created this kingdom you see before you deep in the depths of this world, and it was here that I made our kingdom where all our people and followers followed us, and its here where I placed my iron throne that will one day be yours."

>>93123033

ahem, I forgot to mention that their father is in his demonic golden fire armor in this scene. It will make more since in the finished pages where you will see him transform into it.

>>93123033
wow that is the most ambitious panel you've attempted yet. you should stop coloring your comics and leave it sketchy like this, it's actually better than your awful colors.

>>93071151
>Nana's Daily Life
>cute
???

>>93078942
Remember when the webcomic thread was to help people with their art?