Creating your own comic book superhero universe

I've been trying to figure that out recently. I've got four 'heroes' that I want to write, and I've toyed with each one having their own separate series. But since the story I want to tell ultimately involves all four interacting, I get the feeling to not spread too thin and combine them into one mega story. It's a hard decision, honestly.

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>>93069584
>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
Jot down some notes, try to doodle some designs. The hardest part is finding an artist and publisher.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
For the one I'd want to do they'd be several mini-series

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
Yes.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
Homages tap into the unconscious pop culture knowledge base and greatly increase emotional impact. When Hyperion says "Maybe my parents were wrong." in Squadron Supreme it's more powerful because he evokes the image of Superman and his parents of the Kents.

I would not make into super heros but super powered people.

I like this thread so I'll post some cape universes to get the discussion going.

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>>93070787
Valiant Universe (Valiant Comics)

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>>93071083
Invincible Universe (Image Comics)

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>>93071112
WildStorm Universe (DC Comics, formerly Image)

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>>93071140
Astro City Universe (Vertigo/DC, formerly Image)

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>>93071218
Jay Faerber Universe (Image Comics)

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>>93071305
Milestone Universe (DC Comics? Formerly Milestone Media)

If you're going 100% on your own, I'd say start with a single book that has ties to other possible books to expand the world. Homages are fine, but don't make all your stuff just your version of the Justice League or whatever. My own has a Justice League pastiche that are important to the world as a whole but they're a supporting/antagonistic role in the books rather than the main focus of anything.

I've been working on a cape universe for 2 years and it's a very difficult process.

Right now I'm in the details, but I feel satisfied with all the hard work.

I've been working on a couple universes for a while and it's a goddamn pain. One universe I made simply as a practice exercise (I can still use the stories) while universe two is where I'm going to spend my time. While it might be easy to come up with a cool character design and a couple neat story ideas, finding a way to mesh them is going to talk up the bulk of your efforts

First things first, establish a timeline for your universe which includes a clear start point and end point as well as when major stories are meant to take place (A before B, B before C, etc). Now comes the hard part, you now need to filling in all the space inbetween with complete ideas. This includes when characters are born, their lives growing up (school/friends) and how they come into contact with your protagonists. If you reference any groups or organizations (company, supergroup) you need to understand their origins, purpose, and how they're structured in case you need to go further.

Honestly, what I would say seperates a good universe from a bad universe is how well it's thought out. There's a good chance that more than 80% of your universe is never going to be seen by the general public (as the only parts they will see are your comic), but how well those ideas come across are going to depend on what you decided to build it on.

Want to state that everything I placed above is simply what I WOULD DO, not what you have to do. I've also been told I spend too much time filling in the details but say get your foundation down and build your scripts when you know your story "works".

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>>93071365
Millarverse (Image Comics, formerly Icon)

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>>93071451
City of Heroes Universe (Cryptic Studios)

>>93069584
I did this with a group of friends back in elementary school, it was full on 90's extreme and it made no sense, but man was it fun.

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>>93069584

New Universe ( now incoprorated into marvel)

>>93071444
Also include a section for Characters as well as themes that you need to keep in the back of your head (as well as laying it out for anyone reading your comic bible). State their appearance, their powers, their likes/dislikes, and motivations. You won't know what to do with a character in a story if you don't fully understand that character. Otherwise you're just throwing the equivalent of action figures into each other and hoping for the best.

If powers do play a role in your universe, where do they come from? When did they appear? Were they always here? Does the human body change to accommodate the powers or do they just "work". Is magic ever going to play a big role? Super science ever going to be brought up? How knowledgeable is the public of what's going on in the world around them? This stuff has got to be included or else your going to have a bunch of moving parts that don't quite mesh as well as they could.

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>>93069584

This is a really obscure one. Defiant comics universe. I actually really like "the Good Guys", despite it's huge glaring flaws

Star with one main character. Introduce the fact that other heroes exist in this universe and if fans like one of the side characters then split off and do some stories about them. So on and so forth.

If you like you can even put some other non cape works into this universe to flesh it out.

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>>93069584
Lion's Forge Universe

>>93071566
Last but not least, and this is probably the most important part of the whole processes. KEEP IT CONSISTENT! I'm not saying keep your characters completely static and unchanging, but instead make sure they act in a believable fashion and the world responds to them in a consistent manner. Don't have the characters be happy go lucky one minute and then dark and depressing the next unless you have a damn good reason. Don't change your characters to accommodate the stories you want to tell (and risk having them act braindead in some scenes), instead change the story to accommodate your characters. Have events unfold differently based upon how you characters interact with their world. It's better to have super awesome characters you can understand and empathize with and a meandering story than a kickass plot with douchetards that populate it.

If you're feeling overwhelmed, do what this anon said and start with one. Once you feel like you got that under your belt, expand from there.
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>>93069584
>wrote a whole thing with my own superhero universe
it's pretty crap, might post it online when I'm convinced it's at least 1 level above utter shit. Maybe do the web novel thing for fun
>kind of a Tiger&Bunny thing with commercialism being injected into heroics
>there's a universal reset going on in the background
>some antagonists are heroes that have been rebooted into edgy, violent versions of themselves
>a mix of different ages. Villains are mostly 90's edgelords with some anime thrown in.
>a few homages. I have not-Thor, not-Thing and not-magical girl Venom Snake planned as antagonists

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>>93069584
Chapterhouse Universe

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>>93069584

I did this when i was Running a game of Mutants and Masterminds. I've run a few games of MnM before and i've built a few different super universe in doing so ( to various degrees of success) the best one lasted for around a year before the group tore itself apart over an argument. It focused on Superheros and international politics. The PCs were a team of superheros working for a disadvantaged team working for the UN ( United Nations Superhuman Actors Bureau) the best adventure delt with them coordinating with an american superhuman team defending the texas coastline from a giant godzila like monster and it's mutant army. They made a lot of strategic decisions and came up with a unique and effective solution.Great times were had by all.

It was a lot of fun coming up with characters who emphasized how superhuman beings change the nature of international politics. Superhuman CEOs influencing elections in third wolrd countries, Superhuman dictators in post communist countries, the aftermath of a traditional supervillian's plan to create duplicates of important individuals eventually leading to a terrorist organization trying to defend the rights of said duplicates. All sorts of crazy things happened. I really enjoyed making and running that game.

>>93071786
Keep going. Sounds like you got a lot of the groundwork already covered. I bet if you revisited now you could really make something of it.

>>93071423
Antagonistic?

I'm working on a story myself and have been creating the universe for it as I go. Right now I'm working on the main characters and their back stories and tying them together.

Creating the actual universe will come later for me, I'm trying to limit the actual power of the heroes and really make the villains a force to overcome, but I'm also coming up with more ideas for things that can happen outside of the initial setting that the story will take place.

I can post some character bios I've created if anyone wants to see. Just a warning, most of the main characters are Japanese, because thats part of the setting I'm going for, but there's also going to be lads that are african, Chinese, and European because the main continent will contain many different cultures.

If you're interested in reading, let me know.

>>93071435
Elaborate, Reflecto, you vile fiend...

>>93071846
I'm interested

>>93072165
One interesting concept I've had are for these creatures called immortals that walked the earth a couple thousand years ago. They were a peaceful race and mainly kept to themselves. The humans wanted a way to control their power and transfer it to themselves. When they couldn't do that, they found that immortals could be killed by being beheaded. There was a massive war that lasted hundreds of years and it led to the mass extinction of the immortals. The three back stories I'm about to post are about 3 immortals that survived.

Kira often ponders where he comes from and how he came to be. So much of his life has been spent fighting in wars and training that he has forgotten who he was or where he came from. Akira was still very young when the war of the immortals had reached his climax. He was an orphan living on the streets, stealing food from bakers to survive. Kira was an expert assassin and also an expert thief and was very wealthy. He was also very smart and did not spend heavy quantities of money at one time so as to tip off anyone that he may have stolen that money from someone very powerful. Kira adopted Akira when he found him begging on the streets for change. This took place roughly 1600 years ago. The war of the immortals was fought for several hundreds of years before they were completely extinct.
1/2.

>>93069647
you could try and follow them one at a time at first, jumpin around between the stories before bringing them together

>>93072413

Shien was also a child when this war was being fought, but he was also incredibly powerful for a child. His psychopathy being what helped him survive. Shien had no fear of death, no fear of blood, in fact, he actually enjoyed killing as a child. The sight of blood thrilled him, he also enjoyed the sight of his own blood and the feel of pain. He would often harm himself for fun.

Even as a child, Shien had excellent persuasive skills and negotiation ability. He used this ability to be an assassin of his own accord and was often hired as a bounty hunter of sorts. His face often struck fear into people's hearts because his emotions were unreadable. When you saw his smile, you knew you were going to die. One other thing Shien did as a hobby was collect blood samples of his victims in small vials that he stored in a cabinet. He still has most of these vials today. Sometimes, when Shien was attacked, he would brutally torture his enemies. Each time more cruel than the last.

After the war was over, Kira and Akira had gone their separate ways. Kira intended to continue honing his abilities and Akira left to become a monk and seek peace and harmony. Akira studied at a Buddhist temple for nearly a hundred years until the tragedy. Word had spread that this temple held several surviving immortals who all seeked peace, and it wasn't long after that the temple was attacked. Nearly everyone in the temple was murdered. 2/3 (sorry)

>>93072450
Akira, in his rage, fought back and mercilessly killed every single one of the attackers with his bare hands using his extensive knowledge of pressure points. He looked on, at the severed heads of all his fellow monks who lined the floors of the temple hall. His heart felt pure rage and he went absolutely berserk. It was then that he discovered his master was still alive, the master was not an immortal and he laid on the floor, close to death, covered in his own blood, several mortal wounds. He only had a few minutes left to live. As he saw Akira, he had no words. He just simply pointed to the door. Akira knew that he could no longer be a monk. None of the other monks fought back, this temple taught peace and harmony and Akira turned into a violent monster.

Akira just simply traveled the world, learning new cultures and trying to enlighten himself, it was then he found Kira, and the two have been traveling ever since, continuing to train and get stronger.

>>93072471
>>93072413
>>93072450
Reminds me of my friend's shitty Naruto fanfiction.

>>93072413
One thing I forgot to mention, immortals are actually immortal. They can't be killed in battle, nor can they die of natural causes, and they age very slowly. The younger one, Akira would still look like a young teenager despite his age. Humans feared what the immortals were capable of.

>>93072413
"Kira"? Aw, come on, anon. You can't get away with THAT.

>>93072530
I did that on purpose anon.

>>93072507
This.

>>93072520
>"Immortals are actually immortal"
Well
Unless you count the whole decapitation part

>>93072450

Yeah this is not great

>>93072576
Yes, but you have to know that. Most of them didn't even know that. I'm still working on how the humans discovered that.

>>93071770
Does the IDW Hasbro Universe count? Rom, Action Man, the Micronauts and the G.I. Joes are all pretty superhero-y, but there's nobody who fits the criteria of "human with superpowers".

>>93072607
Or good. Or decent. Or even remotely acceptable at all. It's quite shit, s'a matter of fact.

>>93072608

Why does decapitation work, anyway?
And are the immortals supernatural in nature?

I started with one hero, Richard Midnight, villains such as Spider Hands, Aryan Bolt, and Professor Robot, then a team, the American Heroics Guild and its members, and on to other teams, solo heroes, and supporting world structure. It's a lot of fun.

>>93072471
>>93072450
>>93072413
Cringe

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>>93069584
I'm actually doing this. I am launching the first 24 pages of my comic next week.
> how would you do it?
Think about it for ages. Try to learn how to draw. Rinse repeat.

>Crazy Silver Agey
Yes

>Homages
I actively try to avoid homages and analogs.

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I had an idea for a post-apocalyptic superhero story.

The world would have been exactly the same as Watchmen's at first, with only one "real" superhero (to introduce the idea that people CAN get powers in this universe) and the rest were just a bunch of costumed crimefighters.

Anyway, one day an alien armada shows up and the one superhero Earth has isn't enough to stop them so nukes start being launched. The alien armada is obliterated eventually, but Earth is left as nothing but a wasteland.

We then skip to about a hundred years later, when a new kind of civilization has risen from the ashes, pretty much your average post-apoc society, except after the great invasion is when actual superheroes starting popping up, either because of the radiation, alien experimentation or alien technology. These new heroes, inspired by the heroes of yesterday, are divided into different "city-states" and serve as protectors of each major city-state (how much influence they exert on their domain depends on each group). Some are more Silver Age-like and try to be as morally righteous as possible, others are more like the Authority and both protect and rule their city-state. They're also divided by the source of their powers: the "mutants" (granted powers and sometimes deformities by mutations), the "xenopowered" (powered either by alien experimentation or technology), and the "normals", (heroes with no powers that get around by their wits and technology alone).
They are organized by a sort of Illuminati-like organization, although the mutants and normals don't trust the xenopowered all that much, and the former two don't get along all that well to begin with.

There's also city-states ruled by supervillains, of course.

And there's the wanderers, who travel from minor settlement to minor settlement, trying to either protect them, benefit from them or destroy them (there's both hero and villain wanderers). They're not under the influence of this pseudo Illuminati.

>>93074415
Yeah... I'd go back to the drawing board if I were you, Mike.

>>93072683
Their brains are the link. If something happens to their brain, then they can die. It doesn't happen much.

Other than being immortal, they are mostly human.

>>93074938
Oh, so they're like Wolverine.

>>93075040
Except they don't have his near instant healing factor, no adamantium, and no claws. When they're damaged, it still takes time to heal. If they're stabbed in the heart, their heart will stop and they will be unable to move and will most likely be in a coma, their hearts will regenerate eventually (in like few months or so) and they'll be back to normal. However, some had trained to fight and pain doesn't affect them as much. So if they twist their ankle, or chop their arm off, or some kind of non fatal injury occurs, they can still fight.

>>93075040
Basically, what I'm saying is there was a reason they were killed off. A race full of wolverine's wouldn't go down that easily.

>>93075241
But if their heart stops then their brain stops getting anything it needs to live. It'd be the same as decapitation. And so are they still susceptible to traumatic brain injury? You'd be better off just pulling some magic term out of your ass if you want to do weirdo rules.

>>93074415
>>Homages
>I actively try to avoid homages and analogs.
I realize that a lot of things have already been accomplished in cape comics so homages and analogs are kinda par for the course. You're not going to be able to have a hero flying around in a cape without someone calling him a superman analog (even if that's not the case). My advice, embrace it when it happens accidentally and then make it your own.

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>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
Basically, it's about the story of a ragtag bunch of loser heroes who have to save the day when Earth's biggest heroes fall. I want to get someone else to draw it though, because I suck at drawing myself. I can do designs though.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
Probably just the one book, starting with these 4 zeroes saving the world and then doing the actual world-building.

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
Mostly Silver Agey, I want something that's like the western equivalent of Viewtiful Joe.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
The biggest team of heroes were pretty much the Justice League of Avengers, the rest I'll try to make as original as possible.

>>93076372
Like your concept art. All teh characters look distinct from one another.

Also, is having a team of seven individuals too many or is it just right?
>Really influenced by Justice League. Seemed like that team had all their bases covered in the personality department.

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Flash
Green Lantern
Hawkgirl

>>93076525
>Like your concept art. All teh characters look distinct from one another.
Thanks. Maybe I'd be better at drawing if I actually tried practicing but meh, I'd rather focus on my writing.

>Also, is having a team of seven individuals too many or is it just right?
I'd say go for as many as it feels right, don't force any members in or out just to accomodate to a certain "quota" or whatever. Like you don't need a speedster or a cosmic guy or a powerless hero if you don't want to include one of those. Just go with what you feel is right.

>>93075333
For your trips, I leave you a vague explanation. They're anatomy is not the same as humans. While they appear to look the same as humans, their insides don't work the same. They also don't have genitalia. I still haven't decided how they reproduce, they obviously can't breed with humans.

>>93077327
Your "story" gets cringier and cringier by the post.

>>93077370
I was going for edgy. But I poked my eye out.

>>93077192
Glad to hear it. Seven appears to be my magic number so I'll go with that. With two to three members getting dropped before the series' end. Weird knowing that before I've even written a substantial amount for a character, I already know how they're going to eat it.

>>93077655
That's not weird at all, Thunderbird died in the first arc of Claremont's X-Men so it's pretty clear he was planning to kill SOMEONE off when starting the series.

>>93071140
>>93071218

have any of these people ever even appeared in anything DC related

>>93077776
Lol maybe not the first arc, (closer to issue 50 if I get that far) but I do have planned out which team members die and exactly how it happens (although the when might change). Every scene I put on paper brings me one step further to that inevitable moment.

Just outta curiousity, for those of you planning a written project, how long do you expect it to run (assuming everything works out). Right now I have 100 or or so issues (no more than 120) planned and after that I'm wiping my hand clean of this world and its characters. I would have said everything I needed to say and anything more what be overkill.

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>>93077876
Errr, yes? The WS characters were integrated into the DCU after the New 52.
Astro City is its own, creator-owned thing but there is an analogue of them in Morrison's Multiversity.

>>93069584
Trying to do an Astro City style webcomic with some artists I met on 4chan. It's an anthology of stories about superhumans all in the same universe. Most will be text stories with sketch illustrations (because getting a comic drawn takes a long time) but there will be actual comics. The first is about a tribe of cavemen discovering superpowers. The story focuses on how human explain and justify superpowers in the absence of any scientific background. One guy for instance thinks spirits are causing things to move around him when he lifts giant boulders with one hand. He doesn't think "he" has the powers. And so he's fearful of his powers.

The second is about a Kamen-Rider esque cyborg hero who goes missing after he defeats his arch enemy. It's about a reporter years later trying to figure out why he went into hiding.

I hope it'll work out.

My superhero universe is already ongoing. Currently focusing on a single story about a teen legacy and her struggles in heroics, social life, and going to a school for kids with powers. But I'm hoping to expand it. I already know the origin of powers and what's happened in the 30+ years since they've been around. Mapped out some social trends, technology, even entertainment and corporate stuff. I've also put in "events" that are referred to but will likely never be seen. But they are equivalent to what would've been crossovers if I had been making the whole universe at the time.
Even galactic politics are somehwat mapped out and will feed into my first planned spinoff which is about a preteen supergenius villain.
I just love this sorta stuff.

>>93078022
sounds cool anon

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>>93078022
>>93069584
To answer the questions

>Would it be Silver Agey or modern and edgy?

It would depend on the story. The story about two teacher taking a group of little kid superhumans to a museum about superheroes isn't going to have the same tone as the story about a Catwoman expy reaching her 40th birthday and realizing that age is a thing and she can't be acrobatic or sultry anymore and the heroes she flirted with have all gotten married.

I want to be sure to include plenty of positive emotions in my stories though. Like the story about the Kamen Rider expy is about a guy with a hard life. He was an orphan and all his friends at the orphanage were transformed into cyborg warriors. He's the only one to have kept his mind through the process. It's a pretty Image-esque origin right? But he finds friends. He finds things to fight for. And eventually he leaves a legacy he can be proud of. He gets married and finds happiness.

I think positive emotions are something cape comics need more of with Rebirth a step in the right direction. So many times it feels like heroes fight just to survive and nothing more, suffering conflict after conflict without levity or relief.

>homages or something original

It depends. Our Japanese cyborg is Kamen Rider/8-Man/Cyborg 009. He's Shotaro Ishinomori character to his bones. Others like the super powered cavemen are more original without clear analogs.

>>93078222
Thanks. We're working hard to make something special. I doubt it'll be as big as something like Worm but we're all going to do our best.

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>>93078346
I like your concepts for stories.


For those of you creating a universe, how much progress have you guys made?
>Prewriting phase
>Establishing a first rough draft.
>Rewriting
>Scripting?

Right now I'm working on two with the first having SIGNIFICANTLY more work done. Two has made some progress but it could be deleted and I'd still be good. Although I plan to build my series around B, I plan on finishing A so I can then use it as a template.

Although I'm not quite sure how to say how much of my work I've actually finished (certain sections take WAAAAYYYYYY longer than others. IF we're going by wordcount, the main universe I've been working on is at 12,000 words and that's without multiple sections of the bible and the story only 2/3 of the way done.

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For inspiration on building a coherent universe, I look none other than Greg Weisman in his respective series Gargoyles, Young Justice, and Spectacular Spider-Man. As another anon had once said, you know he has some box full of index cards that contain all of the past adventures of the JSA in the series Young Justice.

I used to have this really long-running universe in my head, and had worked out a plot line that started off as small as Ultimate Spider-Man, then grew to contain billions of years of cosmology and a cast that must have numbered over one thousand.

But for some reason I got tired of all this three years ago, and have essentially given up on the universe beyond some vague final adventures an MC does when he's old and alone.

tl;dr My universe died. Feels bad man.

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Another question for you guys, if you're still around:
Is there some kind of big, detonative event in your universe that is responsible for all your superheroes existing? Or do they just exist naturally, like in Marvel and DC?

>>93079777
In my case, I guess the event was the war against the aliens, although there was already one radiation-powered superhero around and a bunch of powerless ones.

>>93071835
Yeah. One of the books, AWOL, is about a group going by that name. They're a government-made black ops team that, when they realized how many of their basic human rights were violated in their creation, went on the lamb. They're being primarily pursued by Damocles Squadron, a government-funded super team consisting of the world's premier super heroes: Damocles, a Superman pastiche who was found and raised by the government when he crash landed on earth as a baby. When he was unveiled to the world he himself had taken off and was missing for about a year, it having been the first time he was able to freely experience the world outside of the facility wherein he'd been raised. Six other "heroes" were assembled to reign him in: Alpha and Omega(thrillseeking billionaire playboy who took up crimefighting for the excitement and his teen sidekick), Lady Mars(The Goddess of War), Divine Wind(A Japanese speedster), Triton(Lord of the Seas), and Hephaestus the Maker(NOT!Green Lantern). Afterward they all stayed together as a team.

They aren't bad people, but they're the antagonists of the story because they're opposing the heroes. And Damocles' illegitimate son, conceived while he'd been missing, is part of another team in the setting.

>>93079777
I actually toyed around with a BIG detonative event that was to end the world, leaving just a few super powered heroes and some normal people adrift in a vast universe aboard an experimental deep space exploration vessel. Kinda like Lost in Space with capes. But I keep also wanting to just do everything normally, too.

>>93069584
Well, for me, I started out coming up with heroes, then began building up the setting around them and how that effects the heroes.

For example, a the main hero of the setting is Bulletproof. He is a young man who seeks to atone for spending his youth as an uncaring asshole and abusing his ultimately limited powers to basically be 'king of the schoolyards'.

Living in an alternate 1960's, when he became a vigilante and refusing to work with the US Government's superhero program, he was accused of being a Communist, his identity, once found, was released to the public, and the mafias Bulletproof had been fighting kill his parents and sister which only deepens his distrust of the McCarhyist 60's government.

He is only saved because a UN that's paranoid about the US and Russia's escalating meta-arms conflict (where nukes are considered the 'conventional weapon'), swoop in without US approval to start their own sponsored superhero group to keep Russia and the US in check.

>>93074938
Decapitation in and of itself doesn't damage the brain at all, it just severs the blood (fuel) going to the brain. Getting shot in the head would be far more damaging to the brain then decapitation and that would be the first thing people would try when dealing with something that "couldn't die". The head is literally the best place to hit something if you want to kill it.

>Other than being immortal, they are mostly human.
They are neither "immortal" nor "mostly human" according to your descriptions of them.

>>93079777
I like the natural existence angle.

>>93079777
Yeah. Warring alien civs that have been dead for eons engage in proxy wars that uplift "undeveloped" civs using guided probes. They used to do tbis in a very uniform and controlled fashion. But now they're all buggy and produce uneven results. They made landfall on Earth in 1985. Superheroes have been a pop cultural mainstay for a lomg enough time that it impacts how Earth carries on from there

>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
Start off with a mini-series to explain the sudden surge of "Super Powered" people. Essentially in my universe, one super wealthy evil genius attempts to gain immortality by opening a rift to a dimension he believes is the actual "Hell" to make a deal with the "Devil" In doing so, he inadvertently causes dimensional rifts to open up all over the world (with a higher concentration of openings near the original rift) that unleashes super natural beings and mutates various normal people in a myriad of ways into super humans.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
The initial mini-series story would focus on 3-4 specific characters and the different ways they gain powers and how they deal with them. From there those few characters would get their own mini-series where more characters get introduced through them. As each story grows and more characters are met, more series would ultimately split off into their own thing.

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?

Mostly something in between. Different character series would have differing tones and moods, but ultimately follow the same universal rules set for the world as a whole. I would try to keep most power-levels as down to earth as possible though and keep said powers consistent so when something that pushes the boundaries of those set rules happens, it would carry the weight of being a major, rare event.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
I would do as "original" as possible, but there would still be clear influences from existing comics. Kind of hard to avoid certain archetypes and power subsets. Many of my characters were heavily inspired (aka copied) off existing heroes and villains, but I've attempted to alter and change them over time to minimize their similarities and make them their own characters.

>>93069584
>Build a base with an anthology series to set up characters in the world
>popular characters get their own spin-off books.
>Less popular characters become supporting characters in the Anthology series.

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I've been sitting on a concept for about a year now that I think shows a great deal of promise. The only reason I'm not pursuing it right now is because my art skills wouldn't do it justice. That and the whole "I'm in the military" thing I got going on.

Basically, there was this meteor shower, right? But when scientists went to investigate the crash site, they find in the meteorites elements the likes of which we've never seen before. Elements that when combined with known elements and technology produce inconcivable results. This spurs a new age of scientific innovation known as the Second Rennisance. Several years later, in a slightly more advanced Earth, (like a more realistic Futurama) we met our two protagonists. Alan, a lax biologist who is content fiddling with simple projects in his lab, and Iris, a ambitious software inventor who is striving to become a...I don't have a name for this job yet, so call it a "Sci-fi cop".

Basically, in this new world of scientific innovation, there are those that would use new technology to cause harm and the like. Or mad scientists, shady businessmen doing illegal testing, or rogue experiments. And it's up to these Sci-fi cops to use their branch of scientific research to augment their skills and investigate and fight to stop these crimes. For example, if a city was being terrorized by natural raining gasoline, or a herd of super giraffes, the Sci-fi cops step in.

Iris is totally into this, but in a very cold calculating way. Like a female Robo-Cop. And Alan is decidedly less into it, but he gets roped along. Using her inventions and his biological mutant powers, they will fight a host of villains, teaming up with other scientists in different branches of scientific research.

I've had an idea I've been toying with for a while that follows a group of Super-Heroes right after powers start appearing. The main character aspires to be this Superman figure who helps/inspires people and stays apolitical, but the balance of world power is swinging wildly back and forth as more and more supers appear.

I'd like to explore what happens to more underdeveloped parts of the world when superheroes start popping up. It's easy to imagine the US or Europe staying stable, but what happens in the middle of shithole, Africa when a wannabe warlord can suddenly enslave people with his mind? What happens in the Middle East when supergeniuses make power armor mainstream? It sounds more edgy than I would like to play it though.

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>>93076525
>>Really influenced by Justice League. Seemed like that team had all their bases covered in the personality department.

JL are pretty epic, especially the Big Seven. What would you say are their personality types anon?

>>93079777
It's sort of both for me. Long ago in the time before time the first race that descended from the godhead longed to return to the godhead. But by turning their gaze upward they were surprised to find intelligent life growing out in the cold distance of the cosmos where the godhead's light was cold and pale.

They embraced these beings as living miracles and lifted them up to their level. Life that could think and reason like they could came from...nothing. The godhead created them. Intelligence created them. But humanity had no designer.

What followed in this dream-time is controversial among the first race. Some say humanity tried to destroy the First Race. Some say parts of the First Race feared humanity as a spontaneously generated intelligence, a shadow to the brilliance of the godhead. But the end result was that they stripped humanity of its powers, locking it up in chains they called time and dividing their portion of the universe from the portion of the universe that has humanity (there's a physical universe and a mystical universe)

So basically they hit the reset button on the universe. But the dream-time could not be erased. What has no beginning has no end. And as the collective noosphere of humanity swells with information the soul of man calls to the powers it once knew in the dream time and the walls between worlds weaken.

>So what's the point?

1. Super powers "remember" humanity, and this is why they work to the benefit of whoever has them. This is why when you get fire powers you don't explode.

2. History is basically "real world" history until the 20th century with super powered individuals being incredibly rare and having a negligible impact on history.

3. As humanity starts to get more and more super powers more and more weird dimensions open up to physical reality because the protections of the First Race are weakening.

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I had this idea of using the Mandela effect, as retarded as it is, as a springboard for a superhero universe. Basically, superheroes and villains started popping up all over the world during the 80's one random day. They continue to exist until this day, but a bunch of conspiracy nuts are convinced that there's more to their sudden appearance. Some believe that they're government experiments or alien invaders, but the truth is that they're unwilling immigrants from another universe where super-technology, magic, and crazy laws of physics exist. Every 10 years two Earths cross-over and swap random inhabitants (always the other Earth's equivalent of that particular person), and so our Earth ends up not only with people with "faulty" memories, but superpowered people as well.

The plot would be about this bunch of consipiracy nuts trying to find out why exactly this happens, and it's eventually revealed that we may be getting some immigrants from a third Earth as well...

Alright, I'll share my ideas.

>The Life and Times of Kid Darkseid
A very meta story that's been in my head for years about the nature of derivative characters, particularly those written well enough that they become appreciated by fans only to be placed in danger by events and edgy writers. I can substitute expies instead of DC characters but I really would like to be able to pitch this story to DC one day.

>unnamed retcon story 1
Another sort of meta story about three survivors of a continuity reboot. One would be a Supergirl analogue whose Superman analogue cousin has been deaged and is now the only one of his kind. Another would be villain whose only motivation was causing pain to a hero that doesn't exist anymore. The third would probably be the child of two heroes who either aren't in continuity anymore.

>unnamed retcon story 2
5 members of a LOSH expy go the back to the present to witness a historic Human-Alien peace treaty in the aftermath of a failed Alien invasion. Instead of the treaty being announced, the U.N. announces the trial of the Alien commander. The LOSH guys can't return to their time. They seek out a supervillain/time-traveling historian who explains why history changed. And then I don't how it resolves.

I wish I could either draw or knew how to write capeshit prose.

Hey, are there any cape webcomic creators on 4chan?

Any of you guys have something to show?

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>>93082188
Yes, me. I'm the creator of famed superhero webcomic Lady McFetish, it's totally a serious story about a woman who has to deal with the fetishtastic adventures I put her in. I mean, sure, it's full of fetish pandering, the writing is fucking juvenile garbage and the art is barely passable, but at least I'm a real stand up fellow for having a female protagonist!

>>93082188
I am. I answered here >>93080707 and >>9307817
Not a lot to show to be honest. Maybe in another year when more things ade finished

>>93082253
>>93082300
Links?

I feel like we should have threads supporting /co/mrades making comics. I don't care if people bitch about shilling.

>>93082188
I've been making something for the past year, which is why my storytime (yes, that Storytime) has been in hold for so long. I don't like shilling my stuff tho, at least not until I have something more concrete to show.

>>93082300
Oops that last post link got cut off. Here it is >>93078170

>>93082339
Pretty sure that first anon is taking the piss. To be fair, /co/-created stuff does tend to be pretty fetishy and embarrassing.

>>93082402
I don't care. I just like the idea of supporting amateur comic makers. If your webcomic is shit still post it, we'll give feedback.

>>93081859
Sounds gay, anon

>>93082464
Sorry you don't like it. Can I ask what bugs you about it?

>>93082493
To be more serious-

Eh. I dunno. It seems a bit too far-out and weird and conceptual for me, is all.

>>93081957
>>93081859
I sorta dig both of these.

>>93082527
This, it doesn't sound easy to get into at all. Too much fluff too.

I would just keep creating new stories set in the same universe. I could go back to past characters or create new ones as the new stories need them.

I like a concept of an electric guy who's female love interest is plant related. I like the idea of a guy who can split into 2 people. I like a guy called pistol shrimp or just pistol who has arms that are fast and he can clap and cause sonic booms but that's one of my lamer ideas. Also get a guy kinda like x-o man o war but instead of that origin he's a knight templar who found the holy grail. That's a few guys but I haven't thought of more

>>93081653

>Main Character
Depressive reactive protagonist that's an idealist at heart and throughout the adventure has to continuously face the reality sometimes you gotta make the tough call, regardless of how others will look at you afterward. He's okay looking like the bad guy as long as he can look at himself in the mirror (which becomes questionable later on).

Secondary Protagonist
>She's came from an isolated household and while that didn't instill a sense of justice, but it did instill a sense of adventure and exploration in a world becoming all the more fascinating by the minute. She's comfortable tackling new obstacles head on as well as easily improvising on the fly but sometimes she overestimates her compentency/underestimates her opponent which can put her in hot water.

Support 1
>AN individual with a thirst for knowledge an understand and a sense of justice to boot (although to a lesser degree). Although he is by no means a pacifist and can easily argue the necessity for violence, he tries to abstain from outright hurting for as long as possible, using his powers, wits, and ingenuity to solve his problems. He initially uses his powers for support/recon purposes but has to continuiously expand to other situations as the series progresses.

Support 2
>Probably the most optimisitc out of the bunch. Eagerly jumps at the chance to give back to the community and demonstrate what a help he can be. Emotionally immature that looks towards his teammates for validation and recognition. WHen presented with significant stressors that he can't manage on his own he responds to the stressor with extreme aggression and is openly hostile to all those around him. Keep in mind, this is only under rare circumstances and only people who knew him personally could push him that far.

Just a brief descritpion on each. DOn't wanna bog this down with my work in progress that is in dire need of fine tuning.

>>93071083
All I know is Faith is in this
>>93071112
Shares universe with other titles - Spawn and Savage Dragon I think?
>>93071140
Really want to get into this some time
>>93071218
Never read it.
>>93071305
Never heard of it but looks interesting
>>93071365
Read a little bit - I think if it merged with the main DC Continuity Icon would be redundant. Works better not being in the same universe as Superman.
>>93071451
Never seen this but looks like Superfriends, on purpose I'm guessing.
>>93071478
Never played it
>>93071517
>>93071599
>>93071687
Haven't heard of it
>>93071770
Seems familiar - might've been in my lcs or something

>>93079162
Are the JSA even important in Young Justice

>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
The same as any other form of worldbuilding.

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A group of beings based on DC's Big Seven arrive on an Earth pretty much exactly like ours, get rid of all crime and misery, and each takes over a continent. Also, they're all color-coded.

Superman (Blue) takes North America, Batman (Black) takes South America, Wonder Woman (Yellow) takes Europe, Green Lantern (Green, duh) takes Africa, The Flash (Red) takes Asia, Aquaman (Orange) takes Oceania, and Martian Manhunter (Purple) takes Antarctica.

A hundred years later, each hero has formed their own dynasty, and each of these houses are constantly battling each other in small informal skirmishes, constantly locked in a cold war.

Meanwhile, an ever growing resistance of normal humans plans to take Earth back from the Big 7.

>>93083632
Not at all, which is kinda the beauty of it. Even though the JSA were only referenced a handful of times, you can be sure Weisman had already plotted out how the past adventures of the JSA eventually paved the way for the eventual Justice League. Not necessarily for filming purposes, but for helping establish what came before and how these other heroes came to be.

>>93083814
I appreciate it but at the same time it seems so time consuming for something with minimal impact on the plot

>>93083837
I'm just pleased that Weisman remembered the Appelaxians.
I don't like how he made Superman vaguely homesick for Krypton, though.

>>93074938
So you're telling me that no one has ever shot an immortal in the face and spread that this was an effective tactic in the history of humanity?

>>93083837
If you do this one or two times and expand on it in your story, the audience will believe you are doing it every time, even when you start making some things up (and keeping the notes on those things as you go). It's a great way to have a solid foundation with pre-existing histories and links between characters/potential rogues without spending twelve years worldbuilding.

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>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
Set Tone
Determine Scale and Scope
Create Rough Timeline
>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
Start with one or two then branch out
>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
I would say between Silver and Modern. I hate most of what came out of the 90's so I would keep the X-TREME EDGE to an absolute minimum
>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
Hard not to include the homage and ,I hesitate to use the term, ersatz characters. Cape comic's history stretches back nigh on to 100 years and if you include Pulp Mystery Men it goes back even further, you're bound to hit upon a similar idea for a character as at least one of the writers that came before you

My biggest concern would be making it overly complicated

>>93071517
I would love seeing a reboot of the New Universe. Shame Ellis decided to abandon it halfway through.

>>93071305
Dynamo 5 was so good. Thay gets canceled while that America crap gets her own book.

>>93072413
>One interesting concept I've had are for these creatures called immortals that walked the earth a couple thousand years ago.

aaaaand I'm out.

>>93074687
Breddy gud, I might steal this idea.

>>93081653
>Those lazy ass designs

Dammit Cassaday

>>93083501
Tell us more though.

>>93069584
I guess at first I'd need a good idea. Then I'd do a book around that good idea.
I don't know why nobody else has thought to do that yet.

I'm trying to create my own Capeshit universe. The idea of it is that the setting is far more magical based, with the heroes and villains mainly having connections to magic, rather than science which seems to be far more of the norm.

These characters can be creatures like fairies, dragons, angels, demons, elemental spirits, changelings, gods and other such mythological species. While I'll probably have some sort of space stuff, it will likely be Captain Britain esque or have Lovecraftian creatures.

The characters themselves are based on the Teen Titans for the most part, although I make sure that I don't include too many similarities.The Titans rather just serve as a point of inspiration.

The main idea of the universe is that there are heroes, however, they are not common place. This particular story focus on one such vigilante, the apparently normal 'Crow' (Yeah, I know. Original. I'll work on it later). Although infamous in his own city, Shadow is not an international hero, in fact, he is wanted by the police for his activities.

One day, he is contacted by a shadow cabal who ask him to look after a young girl, threatening to reveal his identity if he doesn't.

The Crow and this girl, who takes on the name 'Nemesis' deal with the threats that she and the world which they inhabit face. All the while, their past haunts them.

The main theme of this series is if one can overcome their nature and their nurture. Shadow represents Nurture due to a shit upbringing and Nemesis represents Nature because well, what she is (Not going to spoil her exact origins).

>>93071517
I also have a couple of ideas floating around in my head for a singular issue series based around this universe. If Marvel was stupid enough to hire me that is.

>>93087837
>Shadow

Goddamnit, I'm an idiot. Should have said Crow.

>>93069584
Talismam/Saphire best waifus

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Another question, if you'll indulge me:

Does your story have a gimmick of some kind? Like "superheroes... but with X!" or is it just more like straight up superheroics with no real twist attached?

>>93089073
No gimmick really. It's an all ages thing but that's because I like telling those kinds of stories. But it's not totally straight superheroics either. It's not just inserting a teen hero into the Spider-Man mold. Really wanted to tell a story where being a great hero is more responsibility than the protag can handle and requires a higher aptitude than they'll ever have. But being good enough still makes a difference and saves lives

>>93089073
It's the Avengers but they're all porn stars.

>>93089073
Wait, THAT Grace Randolph? She writes comics?

>>93089943
I didn't realize she was known for other things until this post.

>>93090416
She has a Youtube channel, Beyond the Trailer.

>>93071478
City of Heroes I think had one of the most unique conceits for its Praetorian "mirror" universe, and the writing for that expansion's content was ridiculously on point. Sad a lot of it didn't get preserved.

The mythology around magic, gods, and time travel was also pretty fascinating though I'm not sure if it's because it all seemed so novel to me at the time or if it was actually well written.

If I'd ever get to make up my own shit, I'd follow three basic rules.

The persistence of events, deaths and character development, some sense of internal logic and realism within the narrative, and C O S M I C H O R R O R .

>>93089073
As I said earlier, I was toying with the idea of it being Super Heroes, but Lost in Space. But that ends up making most of my world-building moot.

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>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
Well, I want to make a "super"hero universe entirely populated by non-powered street levelers. Basically, what if we split off the Batman universe from the rest of DC.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
One book is more than enough, although special one-shots focusing on specific characters sound nice.

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
Definitely more on the modern and edgy side, although I want to include some of the sensibilities of the 60's Batman show into my story's background.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
The Batman and Punisher comparisons would be obvious, but I would try to be as original as possible while still homaging some of the stuff that came before me.

>>93079777
>Is there some kind of big, detonative event in your universe that is responsible for all your superheroes existing? Or do they just exist naturally, like in Marvel and DC?
More on the natural side. In my world, costumed vigilantes have been a thing since 1939 (wink wink) and there were some other more pulp-like vigilantes around before that (probably a Shadow expy and the like). However, their appearances were kind of sporadic and generational, they didn't really "explode" until 2005, when a new vigilante, far more resourceful than most before him, starting cleaning the streets of Detroit. He's kind of like a modern day Golden Age Batman, scaring off most criminals out of the city and actually doing a pretty fucking good job at solving the crime issue. This inspires other costumed vigilantes to rise up and start fighting crime as well.

>>93089073
>Does your story have a gimmick of some kind? Like "superheroes... but with X!" or is it just more like straight up superheroics with no real twist attached?
I guess the twist would be the lack of superpowers, but that's about it.

>>93091618
Sounds gay, anon.

>>93091618
Any notable villains?

>>93092778
What don't you like about it?

>>93092969
I'm mostly focusing on the heroes right now, so nope, nothing so far.

>>93092969
Actually I lied, I do have one big villain. An anarchist who has managed to convince pretty much every homeless person in the US to join his cause. So sort of like TDK Joker mixed with Deacon Blackfire.

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/tg/ user here, i made a Teen Heroes game using Mutants and Masterminds 3rd Edition
I asked my players not only to come up whit their own powers but also to come up whit each others nemesis along whit some random villains or suppoting characters
From then i only narrated the every day high school life style of the Teenagers and their adventures whit their new found super powers

Funny enough the most common theme on the campaing was teenage drama, mostly between the players characters

>>93093285
>pretty much every homeless person in America
But-
B-
But that's-
How??

>>93093617
Hobos in each city tend to know each other, and he started spreading his influence from city to city, promising them an uprising against the more privileged if they swore their allegiance to him.

>>93093195
Eh, I just feel like you'll run into some dead-ends.
Or you'll end up looking visually bland (like Valiant does sometimes).
I mean, even heroes like The Shadow faced guys who were rumored to have supernatural powers (and sometimes would actually have supernatural powers).
And what about cyborgs and high tech stuff?

>>93093654
Surely there are hobos who think he's bad news and/or full of hooey.

>>93093660
>Eh, I just feel like you'll run into some dead-ends.
Fair enough, but I'm not planning to make it an ongoing.

>Or you'll end up looking visually bland (like Valiant does sometimes).
Oh, if you thought I was going for a Nolan aesthetic or whatever, you're wrong. I definitely want them to still look like superheroes for the most part, none of that boring ass practicool shit. For the most part. There will be some characters who have less colorful costumes but that's part of the appeal imo

>I mean, even heroes like The Shadow faced guys who were rumored to have supernatural powers (and sometimes would actually have supernatural powers).
Yeah, I'm considering adding some mysticism into it at some point. The Shadow had occultism, Batman had stuff like the Lazarus Pits, etc. That's more of a "hidden history of the world" kind of angle though, and I want to get to that much later.

>And what about cyborgs and high tech stuff?
There's definitely lots of crazy tech, you don't get rid of crime in Detroit by just kicking people in the face and being good at dodging bullets. This one "big" vigilante actually starts kind of a police state in the city, not unlike Kingdom Come's Gotham. Not sure about cyborgs though.

>>93093687
Well, that's why I said "pretty much". There's some hobos who didn't join him and that's it, others help out the vigilantes as informants.

The anarchist guy is actually quite the charismatic fellow so he doesn't make an "example" out of these people, and always seems to be 10 steps ahead of the crime fighters, even with the informants and all.

>>93093784
Oh, thank God. That sounds much better.
So it's like if Watchmen didn't have Dr. Manhattan and stuff? Kind of?
Are there any ninja?

>>93093886
>So it's like if Watchmen didn't have Dr. Manhattan and stuff? Kind of?
Kind of, except less realistic so people are allowed to be badass. Sorta like the movie, actually.

>Are there any ninja?
There's both ninja-themed heroes and ninja assassins.

>>93094030
Aaayyyy.
I'm a sucker for superpowers and stuff, but that sounds really cash, anon.
Forget what I said about it being gay.

Does MotU/New Gods esque sci-fantasy count?

>>93094857
Yes

I've been working on an idea, off and on, for years now.

I used to have threads about it here on /co/ where folks would help be bounce ideas around.

The basic conceit was a team of heroes, each one from a member-state of the United Nations Security Council.

So we had a hero from China, France, Russia, the UK, and the US.

They would work together to solve humanitarian crises worldwide while simultaneously dealing with the political troubles afflicting their quarreling homelands.

>>93069584
i have one in development. I'm thinking a couple serials of each character, with a couple crossovers. It's kind of in-between, with an ultra gritty city setting in one of the serials, except the main character can transform into a giant T-rex. One of the members of the "not justice league" can control super heated smoke and has a super edgy backstory. Another member is pretty much weaponized spongebob

>>93094118
Hey no problem, I can see why taking the "super" out of superhero can sound offputting. Conversely, I'd like to see a superhero universe where non-powered heroes are practically extinct because they keep dying.

>>93096420
>They would work together to solve humanitarian crises worldwide while simultaneously dealing with the political troubles afflicting their quarreling homelands.
I like it.

>>93097150
I like that too


I've taken a peek through this thread and while there's def some garbage here, there are some genuinely interesting ideas that would stand out from the Big 2.

>>93097293
>I like it.

Thanks!

How does one avoid "asspulls" when writing a universe for a cape series? I know that at some fundamental level this universe is going to be significnatly more far out and outrageous than our current universe but how do I pull that off without it being considered an asspull? What's an acceptable limit of ridiculuousness that people can put up with before they start rolling their eyes?

Part of me thinks that it all comes down to whether or not there was an explanation for it, but at some point the writer is going to realize that they don't have a sufficient answer and that's when they adopt the mantra, "shut up an go with it!".

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>>93098837
Just do whatever man
Include whatever you want

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Do you guys have any concept art for your stories?

I'm no artist, but I love conceptualizing my characters. Figure I'll save the actual artist some time too.

>>93099238
Concept art ish....I have a few sketches and doodles but I've come to accept that while I have an idea of what this looks like in my head, after reading my outline and scripts the artist might come up with something much grander in scale then what I dreamt up. I've relegated myself to costume art and very very very broad strokes panel layout but all that can change.

>>93096420
>So we had a hero from China, France, Russia, the UK, and the US.
Brainstorm ideas for these guys and I'll drawfag it.

So how many people here have produced finished work for their superhero universe that others can read somewhere? Because you all seem to have a lot of great ideas and I want to see them come to fruition sooner rather than later.

>>93100345
>>93100545
At one point I had the first four scripts to my series finished and posted but I would prefer that /co/ sees the the finished work rather than just have my writing.
>If if helps, Judge Anon has read through the entire thing years ago and gave me significant feedback to improve in every way possible. I'm hoping to have the first 8 scripts finished by summer so I can dip into savings and hire out an artist.

>>93098837

Sprinkle and build up things in the background when attempting to pull out a twist so retroactively things make sense in a surprising way.

>>93100832
On the one hand, that's pretty cool and promising, on the other hand, Judge likes fucking Cassiopeia Quinn so...

>>93101376
I'm going full Weisman! Time to break out the index cards!

>>93101501
I'm going to have this thing made regardless of whether it gets published by any third party orgs. I want to share my own work with /co/ because you guys are fucking awesome

>>93101501
I've never read Cassiopeia Quinn but I think it's interesting that it's not so well liked around these parts.

I've got about 150+ finished comic pages for the first entry of my universe. Started back in 2011.

>>93101883
People tend to hate on CS because it's made by two /co/mrades so we expected so much from it. Of course, it doesn't help that Gunwild is kind of a crap writer. Psu's great though.

>>93100345
At one point I was working on a series bible. I had a few dozen pages of character information, setting background, all that.

My external drive died and took everything with it.

I'll try to recollect my character ideas and post them tomorrow.

If you're still around, I'd love to see them drawn.

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>>93102423
Get back to working on that Bible. Once that's out of the way everything else will be easy street because you're just filling in the blanks. Fully scripting an issue in shorthand (3 pages for this scene, five panels for this one, etc) is so much easier and filling in the blanks takes no time at all because you've already done the heavy lifting on plot and characters. By this point you should have a definite voice for all your characters.

>>93102423
>If you're still around, I'd love to see them drawn.
I might have a go if anything appeals. What've you got?

>>93102649
Fucking noice. Love your lines and coloring. If I ever get my scripts done (full script format), would you be willing to offer your services as an artist? This would be paid of course at a reasonable rate (8 issues at 24 pages total -- last issue might be 32). It would be a cape comic but each issue constantly varies the location so you would get to diversify rather than draw the same shit over and over.

>>93102786
Yeah dude
bored drawfriend on DA, look me up when you're ready
http://bored-drawfriend.deviantart.com/

>>93102649
Haha, I KNEW posting Tigerman was a mistake!

>>93103020
wat?

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>>93102837
Dude, this stuff looks amazing. I'm definitely going to skew more towards your hero work than your fantasty/sci-fi although I/you could always find a way to work those influences in there. Also, I think I might have my series be a tad bit less realistic than what you've been working on because my comic has extreme amounts of violence and don't quite want a realistic art style because I'd consider that too much. Judging from what art you've posted, adjusting in that way doesn't look look like a big issue for you.

On the other side of things, because you're an artist you might have more info than I do. As of now, I only know of two options to writers. The first is to pay the artist up front and that be the end of it (but I don't know how much they would be reimersed afterward) and the second is to establish a partnership (assuming the artist likes the story and wishes to contribute in a more direct manner). Am I thinking about those two options correctly or am I missing some other crucial option?

How do yall feel about domino masks?

>>93103322
The character's name is Tigerman.

>>93103426
And? How is posting him a mistake? You got a pic drawn of him for nothing.

>>93103451
I was joking, anon. I actually love it.

>>93103421
>How do yall feel about domino masks?
They're my jam, nigga.

I reckon you'll alway shave a better time going the partnership route, just for communication's sake and ease of collaboration. I'd be happy with an artist credit on such work, I wouldn't need to go for co-creator as is the norm these days. Emails on my DA, if you're keen to move forward contact me there and we can parlay.

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>>93103563
>>93103563
>They're my jam, nigga.
FUCKING YES! I have just rewatched the Incredibles and I loved how all the major characters wore Domino masks. Don't get me wrong, I love full face masks, but when in doubt I can always have them wear one underneath their main one (like my homeboy Jason Todd).

Also I'm now especially motivated to knock out that series bible so I can finalize the scripts and start somethiing up with ya. I was always worried about finding a reasonable artist but now that I know one is right there as well as a /co/ goer (meaning they have a more than decent knowledge of comcis), I know feel like actually turning this thing into a finished product is more possible than I realize.

Hyotheticaly, If this does get made into a set of 8 issues you'd be cool if I posted that shit on /co/ right?

On the topic of comic universes, I especially love the Arkham Verse because it provides a more/less definitive beginning and endpoint for Batman. It takes place over a reasonable amount of time and takes influences from many iterations of the character to create one entirery their own. Some story ideas I feel are better executed than their source material (Jason Todd's return without a Lazarus Pit) while some left longtime Bat fans scratching their heads (Tim and Babs?). All in all a Universe worth investing your time and attention into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgBBitvVHAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkZskncJpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVIuIIVVbIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfjgVu6zKT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0N8yukoxg

>>93104132
You pay for the art, it's yours to do what you want with it senpai.
It's good to have an ending in mind, I still need to finish AK though, adding the Batmobile ruined the games for me, why bother to stop and fight when I can just GTA every thug I come across?

>>93104185
>You pay for the art, it's yours to do what you want with it senpai.
What does that entail exactly? I feel like that's a vague description. Like, what would happen if I went to Image with the finished pages fully inked/lettered? Would Image then contact that artist or would I just get reimbersment for it all? I'm not trying to sound intolerant, I genuinely don't know and would like to know more about the industry.

>>93104340
If you're planning on publishing, you gotta work all that shit out with your artist first.
Creator status is funny in comicdom, it's a little more rigid than in other media, because fo the way the big two handled creator credits for decades.
Usually you purchase repro rights for imagery and the artist keeps the rights to the artwork, since he drew it. He can't publish or reproduce it for profit. You can reproduce and sell it as much as you like, but he retains the original art. Not sure how that works with digital art though.
Again it comes down to what you negotiate. Yhere is no one rule for all situations here.

>>93104418
So if a writer paid an artist up front from all their work and signs a repro agreement, they could then take it to a publisher and the writer would be the only one paid by that publisher?

I"m willing to work out a joined ownership of the property (to an extent, I want to maintain creative control of story) but I feel like the artist is getting doublepaid while I'm only going to see a dime if I can get it to a publisher.
>Which is why I'm motivated to send it to some publishers that accept writing without art.

>>93104541
Publisher wouldn't have to pay the artist since you already did, you now have the repro rights, it's your artwork.

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>>93104630
Hooray! I was worried I was going to get fucked in that regard. I'm now much more willing to pay out to an artist up front and not having to worry about see them again if they were a huge douchenozzle. I'd still primarily like to partner with an artist and jointly work together (after they've seen the bible and first completed story arc) but if I just needed a "hired gun" so to speak that's still a reasonable option.

Ultimate Marvel - Universe 1610
>It didn't deserve what happened to it. Here's hoping it gets a happy ending.

>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
The way dc and marvel did, make each hero/team work on their own and then join them. Planning a shared universe from the getgo is kinda pointless, it stops being a universe the franchises share and rather a story with multiple books. Most of the non marvel and dc ones(excluding their adaptations) feel like responses to dc and marvel's shortcomings or thesis about marvel and dc rather than an actual shared verse.

>Would it be contained to one book, like
>Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
Kinda already explained, but multiple.


>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
In between. There's no real single way to write good comics.


>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
As original as one can be. Homages are overdone. If there is a homage it should be a minor one time character.

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>>93069584
Alright, it's Friday night, got nothin' to do and I'm not posting with my name anyway so what the hell.

>How would you go on about this?
The elevator pitch is X-Men by the way of Infamous in South America. It's actually not the only superhero story I want to tell, or the biggest one, but it is the first one.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
Neither, it's a webcomic. This is going to sound really cold-hearted and businesslike, but I'm hoping to use this series as a foothold on the comic book industry, like other writers like Christopher Hastings, Ryan North or Abaddon have done before. Despite that, I really do care about this series, I feel like it scratches an itch I have right now that no other series (that I know of, anyway) is doing right now.

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
Definitely modern and edgy, there are practically no superheroes in this world. It's the future of Days of Future Past, except a bit less fucked up.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
Yeah, there's homages. I use them to play around with team dynamics and expectations, which is fun.

>>93079777
>Is there some kind of big, detonative event in your universe that is responsible for all your superheroes existing? Or do they just exist naturally, like in Marvel and DC?
Yes, there is an event, and it's quite devastating.

Anyway, that's about it. After doing a fair bit of worldbuilding and character design, I'm currently fleshing out my characters, although I fell off for a couple of months, which may hinder my plans of launching this next year, but who knows.

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I had the idea for a miniseries that followed a single hero who started in the vigilante game during its beginnings in the 1930s and had a varied career up to the early 2000s when he retired and decided to write his memoir which we the audience are reading.

His adventures with other heroes of his time would lead him from Golden Age to Silver and then Bronze and so on as we witness him changing with the times to reflect the trends we saw through the history of cape comics.

His relationships with other heroes, maybe a sidekick or two, being killed then resurrected, being de-aged along with some older capes (being re-booted as it were).

Looking back at the mullets of the 80s and the edge of the 90s like we look back at mullets and grunge music.

Its a meta journey through comic history through the eyes of the Hero.

>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
I plan on keeping it to one book but may end up having minis if I can think up something neat.

>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
Definitely a mix between the two, which is by far much more difficult than either tone individually.

>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
I realize that I'm inevtiably going to stumble upon some of the more comic tropes in comics (alternate universe story; tournment story; sidekick trying to make it on their own story), but I'm going to take those concepts and twist them into something entirely my own.

>>93106244
Post a link so we can keep updated on this.

>>93106374
This is just the bare bones idea friend, I have yet to start writing this.

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>mfw I've been coming up with superhero characters since I was 10
>mfw I still come up with cool ideas for stories for my characters
> mfw I can't draw for shit and can't find a decent artist dedicated to drawing my whole universe

I know you guys will say I should just work on my own drawings but I'm really bad, and it's be a decade of work to make my stuff decent.

>>93106676
Drawthreads and tumblr are perfect for finding someone who will draw your stuff. It ain't that hard.

I'm bored AF, anyone want their shitty OC drawn?

>>93107012
Sure.

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>>93107220
And?

>>93071478
This image triggers me so hard.

it was crap but i miss it!

So how do I add mine?

>>93108806
What?

So no one wants their character drawn? I can't give sketches away.

>>93108806
???

>>93110910
You seriously want to draw characters?

>>93097150
Would you ever be open to suggestions for villains or supporting characters or whatever?

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>>93104185
>GTA every thug I come across?
You make a compelling argument. Arkham Knight was a game that honestly would have been better if it had less content in certain areas. Not may games can say they have that problem.

>>93112222
You mean for the non-powered heroes world or the ones where the non-powered heroes keep dying? Because if it's the latter that's just a random idea I've had, I don't even have a plot for that haha

>>93113501
No no, just the non-powered one.

>>93113579
Well, I actually have considered the idea of having two series: a main series about the guy in Detroit and his "Bat-family" versus the anarchist guy (basically order versus chaos), and an anthology series by different people chronicling the stories of different crimefighters all over the world. I'd certainly love to have some /co/mrades help out with that if you guys are interested.

>>93114602
Help how so?

>>93114822
Write, draw, color, that kind of stuff. Coming up with characters and story ideas counts too.

Of course everyone who helps out would get credit and part of whatever profits we make.

The world of the Incredibles but all the superheroes are alive so it's not boring.

>>93069584
>How would you go on about this?
A superhero universe where everyone is gay.

>>93116723
Go on...

>>93102423
>>93102767
The original idea was to have the series set in the modern day, though at the moment I'm thinking it should be set shortly after the formation of the UNSC following the end of WWII.

Regardless, these are the characters I was writing about at the time.

From China we had Upgrade, a teenage savant that was only able to come out of his antisocial shell when protected by his modular battlesuit. My original designs had the suit be very form-fitting and simplified, with a sort of iPod aesthetic -- sleek and clean.

From France we had Tricolore, a French-born Angolan woman with the power to split herself into three duplicates. Her suit was a vertical split of blue, white, and red. She was an Olympic-level acrobat and a skilled martial artist.

From Russia there was Perun, a man with herculean strength and an indestructible axe. Whether or not he really was the god come to Earth was to be a running joke -- the Russian government would neither confirm nor deny his divinity. He dressed in simple furs and wore a skullcap helmet.

From the United Kingdom there was Spriggan, a man who could control his size. He could shrink to about an inch in height and grow to nearly three stories tall. When he grew he also deformed and became more trollish. His costume was a simple bodysuit that would tighten up his arms and legs as he increased in size, leaving them bare when he was fully grown.

From the United States there was Harrier, a winged man who had undergone extensive cybernetic enhancement. He wielded a spear that could fire bolts of energy. His costume was a disjointed mess, a 'designed-by-committee' clash of concepts that combined patriotic armor and camouflaged fatigues.

I have some ideas on how I would revamp these ideas, were I to revisit the concept, but that's what I remember.

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>>93120031
I like the idea of some Global Guardians people can take seriously, but I think your team has way too many Europeans.

IMHO, you should start with one hero per continent (yes, even Antarctica, that place's resident hero can fight like Lovecraftian horrors and shit, sort of like a one man/woman Night's Watch) and then once you have them established branch out to other countries.

>>93120737
Well, the team was formed by and receives its funding from the United Nations Security Council, the five core members of which are China, France, Russia, the UK, and the US. There are other members, of course, and so the group could go on adventures with other heroes, but these five would have been the main group.

>>93072413
>immortals could be killed by being beheaded
So, you just got around to watching Highlander...
>collect blood samples of his victims in small vials that he stored in a cabinet
And Dexter ...
>Kira adopted Akira
>He used this ability to be an assassin
>When you saw his smile, you knew you were going to die.
This isn't even Facfic tier fanfic.

>>93120737
A Chinese man, a French woman of African descent, a Slav, an English man, and an American of unmentioned ethnicity aren't diverse enough for you?

>>93120849
Everyone starts somewhere, Anon.

I mean, my first superhero was a Batman knock-off called Recluse. He was secretly a vampire that used a spider theme instead of a bat one and fed on the thugs he delivered to the police.

>>93120845
Ah, that makes sense.

>>93120979
When did I ever mention diversity, ya daft twit?

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>>93121224
Senpai, I know you're making fun of Secret Identities. You ain't that sneaky.

>>93121275
I have no idea what this is.

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For those of you working on a cape universe, does yours happen to have it's own Superman analog? How do you make him different?
>Mine is nerfed harder than Supes was in JLU. No super breath. No heat vision. No super hearing. Can't breath in space.

>>93122389
>a cape universe
I have a few.

>Superman analog? How do you make him different?
Most do, even if it's just a big, unmasked guy with a cape. My Batman-pastiche world doesn't have one, the only powers are on par with Arkham Villains and Shadow-like mystics.
I've also got a more powered up world where abilities are on par with some x-men or the Rogues Gallery of villains and a third world where it's DCU post-COIE power level. The Rogues level world has a cyborg dude who is JLU level of power Superman, the cybernetics enhancing his natural abilities. The Post-COIE world has a straight John Byrne-level Superman but he died

>>93112050
Yes seriously. Taking requests now, get on that shit.
>>93112811
I tried playing again this morning, and it was the same thing. Between tank battles and the huge distances to race across town requiring a car, after three games I CBF jumping out of the car, spending 20 seconds beating up some random scumbag, hopping back in the car and doing it all again.
But lately, I'm finding I'm going off vidya anyway. I'd rather focus on my art and stories.

>>93122389
Of course
He and his brother are regarded by the public as the "Top 2" in my setting
Basically back in the 20's these guys got Colour out of Spaced, as in they found a strange tear in space that bombarded them with energywhen they touched it.
Atlas Superman analog gets Super Strength, Durability and Speed that increases over the years as well as gaining Flight and Laser Eyes sometime in the 50's
The Promethean Think Toyo Harada from Valiant without the Mind Control and White gets Telekinesis, Telepathy, and Enhanced Intelligence and also gets more powerful over time
Both of them stopped ageing after the Event and have survived till the modern day

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>>93123004
>>93123004
>Colour out of Spaced
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that's worked in Lovecraft influences into their work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoCG8CJlvVo.

>>93123004
I like it.
I've got something a little similar but only the two guys, best friends, get powers in the whole world. They also stop aging and over time their different views on how to handle saving the world leads them to oppose each other.

>>93123236
Lofcraftian in as much as it's two guy from 1920's Rural America finding something weird out on the farm
Really it's more 4th World than Lovecraft since they find out way after the fact that they have been bombarded with energy from THE GENESIS CASCADE the energy from the creation of the Universe that also created all the Cosmic Gods

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Some time ago I saw people talking about Tiger & Bunny on /co/, and one guy described it this way:
>story about a middle-aged C-list super hero being promoted to an A-list team around the time his career is coming to a close

I got really interested by the premise and watched the series. Although the writers committed a huge error (they introduced the most important plot point in the middle, a twist that should have changed everything, only to completely drop it after a chapter) I still think the series was fantastic. Could have been better tho, but it was great.

However, it was not what I was hoping after reading that anon's post. It didn't explore that premise like I thought it would do. So I decided to give it a try and start developing a series based around that exact phrase I quoted.
The series was going to center around the middle-aged protagonist, but as I worked in the world building I had to divert my attention to the design and backstories of the rest of the characters.
Now it's looking more like an Astro City kind of book where I try to avoid all the flaws and bad executions that I learned of reading comics. And I'm having problems to find a place for the original protagonist. The hardest part is deciding what power this guy will have: it needs to be some low tier thing, but flexible enough so he can use a bit of imagination when he's in a tough situation.

>>93123374
That is similar since Promethean goes all Magneto and builds his own Genosha in the 80's
It gets nuked and his wife and child are killed so he goes all fuck the U.N. and attacks New York Doomsday style until Atlas stops him and locks him in the Null Plane you can guess what that is

Promethean gets out like 20 years later and discovers his son activated his latent powers and teleported to space so he goes to look for him

>>93123481
>>93123236
Ironically enough, the two main ones I've put work into for my own setting are each one of these.
Richard Midnight was an archaeologist who, along with his partner, explored the heart of Deepest Darkest Africa, discovered an amulet dedicated to a sleeping old God called N'Thyrak, and fought a cult to protect it. He's now it's protector and it grants him the ability to use magicks. His partner died during the fighting(blew himself up with dynamite to take out a large portion of cultists) and is now a ghost that haunts/sidekicks for Midnight.
The other, Guardian Star, was gifted power from the birth of the universe by the sentient heart of existence in order to stop an extradimensional being called the Nothing, pure anathema of existence/reality.

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>>93123514
I really like the literal flaming faggot Nathan, like you said, the show was good even with its flaws but that is the problem with animes that are original work and are not based of a pre-existing work, now the other similar Japan try to do capeshit is My Hero Academia

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For everyone here that's looking to develop their own superhero universe, I highly recommend you watch the anime Samurai Flamenco. Saying anything more would spoiler the series as this series manages to reinvent the idea of Super-Sentai and truly becomes something entirely it's own. I don't recommend anime often (honestly never), but this is a series I believe wold be treasured by /co/ if given the oppurtunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-Jxax5ZXKI

>>93123622
I really really really want to tsee where this goes.

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>>93120031
I was bored so I made some crappy designs for your characters. I took some liberties with a couple of them, but I mostly tried to give them a classic, iconic feel since they're from the late forties, except for Harrier, where I went with a more Kingdom Come-ish approach.

>>93123722
You can say that the show is trying to be a deconstruction of capeshit/hero genre

Universes are made up of characters.

Focus on developing several characters very well. Keep them either loosely related or ((seemingly)) unrelated until they're good and fleshed out.

You could have tieing thing through their stories like an organization of some type (ala shield or the bprd) but make the focus on the characters

Nobody will give a fuck about your universe if they don't care about the people in it

>>93122389
I'm a bit ashamed of these but here it goes.

My Superman analog is a psychic that can only create force fields, but they're the most impenetrable things known in the planet. He's an escaped experiment of a government that tried to mix some supers ADN like throwing shit at a wall to see what would stick around.
I'd like his personality to be a mix between Clark Kent and Peter Parker: heart of gold, unbreakable will, but always a bit goofy and mocking at his villains. Can fly, of course.
He has a silly hero name because it was what kids started to name him when he started.

Also related: my Batman analogue is a woman who scavenges the technology of the villains she beats to use it for herself. She wears a powered exo-suit ala IronMan built with that stolen technology (can't fly) and is known for being brutal with her "victims", to the point the police and part of the public is against her.
She got screwed by life several times before going vigilante (not going into detail now but I have most of her backstory complete), which gave her very serious anger issues (important part of the character), a phobia to knives, and due to her own complexes she resents supers to the point of openly hating them.

The Superman analog is an old fan of the Batman analog and gets on her way all the time, which drives her fucking mad thanks to the combination of "anger issues" + "hates supers", but she can't do nothing about it due to the nature of his powers.
I'm still deciding if the guy should end up with a crush for her when he discovers she's a woman, just because I find this duo interactions hilarious.

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>>93123784
I'd absolutely agree with that statement, the only thing is that this series has so much more to say on the subject of superheroes than simply being a cynical deconstruction. Every major arc resets the gameboard in such a way that the series feels like it's gone of for SEASONS. I know this is a /co/ board, but Samurai FLamenco is a love letter to Superheroes and /co/ would be remiss to simply write off the series because it's an anime. It's agonizing because I absolutely adore this show but revealing any of the plot would ruin what this show managed to achieve. Just watch it. You won't be dissapointed.


>>93123937
>Nobody will give a fuck about your universe if they don't care about the people in it
I like your way of thinking friend.

>>93123722
Well Richard Midnight mostly just solves paranormal mysteries as a low rent PI and fights street level crime until befriending another super type in the setting, Captain Eye-Laser, a former astronaut who after flying too close to the sun gained the power to well fire lasers from his eyes. The two end up suckering a third hero into starting a super group, the American Heroics Guild. This hero is Templar, the last of the Knights Temolar who were formed centuries ago to combat a future alien threat. They did this under the pretense that the organization would be devoted to combatting the as-yet not happening alien threat he has trained his whole life to fight.

Guardian Star is basically a cosmic powered Spider-Man until the Nothing finally arrives.

>>93124037
>wrote ADN instead of DNA
Damn, now that's some stupid slip on my part.

>>93124037
The absolutely have to end up together. That dynamic is too good not to do something iwith.

>>93124069
After reading plot these character descriptions, I think I'd rather read what /co could bring to the table more so than what current Marvel has. DC Rebirth is still on fire.

>>93124116
Lol I was wondering what ADN was. I thought it was some super secret abbreviation.

>>93124116
>>93124150
In spanish is ADN instead of DNA , so perhaps the user is a spic like the many that browse here

>>93122389
Mine is also nerfed. He has basic flying brick powerset but it all stems from psionic abilities. He's from Earth. An adjunct history professor who got his powers in the mid-80s from a malfunctioning alien probe meant to uplift underdeveloped civilizations. He's also black. His version of Lex Luthor not only won the presidency but is considered one of America's greatest despite briefly colluding with other forces to open the door to an alien invasion.

>>93122389
>For those of you working on a cape universe, does yours happen to have it's own Superman analog?
Yes mine has one. He's the only overpowered Superhero in this world, and he started out as the cliché-boyscout Superman character, which is why he made most superheroes unemployed. Even the villains quit because they didn't have any chances against him.

>>93124150
>That dynamic is too good not to do something iwith.
Yeah, that's what I think. I had no interest to introduce a romance between the two at first, but when I started writing some interactions between them I opened a door that had not seen.

>>93124239
Spaniard actually. Checked what I wrote several times but only realized that slip after I posted it, heh.

>>93123578
I'm digging it senpai, wouldread/10
You got any art?

>>93124396
No art to speak of

>>93124327
>Even the villains quit because they didn't have any chances against him
This is a little quirk of your universe that you could mine for entire arcs of issues.

>>93124329
>I started writing some interactions between them I opened a door that had not seen.
I remember once hearing the phrase, "Good characters will take on a life of their own.", but I always scoffed it at poor writers not having a handle on their characters. I have now changed my opinion completely and believe that well written characters will literally take the story away from you in ways not anticipated.

>>93122768
Okay, man. If you are serious I would like you to draw my lead hero.

His name is Insight. He is dressed in a dark blue dress shirt with the sleeves rolled up, Black dress pants, and a red tie. He wears a full face helmet similar to Jason Todd, except a single Eye taking up the forehead area, no other facial features. His power is the creation of simple hard light constructs with his goto offense being covering his forearms with bullet shaped hard light.

Hope that isn't too spergy

>>93124861
Oh I guess I should mention blue's his main color. So the light, his eye color, all blue.

I'll shut up now.

>>93124670
>This is a little quirk of your universe that you could mine for entire arcs of issues.
The main story will be focused on those villains who lost the motivation to fight the superman analog. some of them quit completely, some are just bored guys in costumes who look for some excitement. There are nightclubs, theme parks and TV shows about costumed people. They're basically c-list celebrities at this point.

>>93123776
These are pretty fantastic!

I hadn't interpreted Spriggan as an actually tree-man -- he was more of a troll or an ogre in my head, at least when he went large -- but I like it!

I also really like Upgrade; you've made him seem almost alien, which suits his personality very well!

>>93124069
>Guardian Star.

Call him Starguard.

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>>93122389
Yes.

>Aaron Drake is a former child actor, the star of a long-cancelled children's show titled "The Stellar Adventures of Spaceboy!"

>Now in his mid-20s, Aaron struggles with drug-abuse and the beginnings of mental illness. Despite this, he makes a meager living attending conventions and charging his few remaining fans for autographs.

>After one such convention Aaron is approached by fans 'from Europe' who invite him to a party. While there they give him a drug they promise will get him 'higher than ever.'

>After taking the alien psychotropic Aaron's consciousness is expanded to such a point where he can perceive and manipulate the interconnective energy of the cosmos.

>>93124991
Ha ha, thanks man, I actually did them while commuting so they're pretty half-assed. Glad you liked them though.

Yeah, Spriggan sorta turned into a tree-man because I had Skyrim on the back of my head. I know realize he looks like Groot wearing spandex so I think I prefer your version better.
I can actually take a stab at any of them again if you'd like.

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Just wanna say this is probably the most product "write thread/create thread" I've seen in a long while.

>How many issues do you have planned for your respective universe?
I have at least a 100 issues planned (no more than 150). Afterwards I'm not entirerly sure if I'd be okay with another writer taking over so I would probably write the series to end on a definitive note.

>Be honest, is the main character based on you? Are the other characters based on people you know?
Main character is mos assuredely based on me. There are more than enough changes to differentiate us though. The other characters are all based on real life individuals. It took me a long time but I finally enbraced the mantra, "Write what you know".

>Which writer would you say is your biggest influence. No Judging here. Many writers have aspects that make them stand out from everyone.
Combo of Joe Casey (cape concepts applied to other concepts) and Warren Ellis (synthesisis of Sci-Fi and Cape Universe). Also include Darwyn Cooke as he found a way to alternate betwween landscape art and meaningful story progression (New Frontier is magical for its art). It has pages devoted to pure exposition and some pages that are so perosnal you'd think this comic was a solo title (Hal Jordan - Green Lantern). Seriously, this comic was fucking golden in every way shape and form and will forever remain a reference point for my universe.

>Which artist comes close to the series you have in your head?
Delcan Shalvey and Michael Oeming

>Any other ides for comics beyond Superheroes?
4 issue alien series. A very short mini series that's setup as a more mature Time Squad (that series was fucking fantastic).

>Other Influences/Comments
I'm taking a page from Weisman's book and creating an index card library that inclluides all major events in universe in the most complete manner possible so when I start writing, I already know where everything goes and whether it "works" with regards to story consistency.

>>93124861
>>93124963
Can he fly?

>>93126788
No. He could. theoretically make a disc to float with. He usually just drives from place to place.

>>93126862
cool, pic incoming in the next 15 mins or so, just adding some colour

>>93125762
Of course! I'd love to see your interpretations.

I've been in the planning stages of one for the past year. I thought about taking a "cinematic universe" approach except without the whole "being a film" thing. In other words introducing characters in their own one shot comic before the big team book.

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>>93122389
I had two. One of them was pretty much straight up Superman because god damn I fucking love Superman. He would be a scientist in a facility searching for higher dimensions and trying to 'leech' energy from them. Something goes wrong, yadda yadda yadda, he gets superpowers by stealing energy from another universe. Typical flying brick shit. Though it would make more sense if his powerset was more influenced by energy beings or Captain Atom/Doc Manhattan. He would do stuff like saving people from burning buildings than trying to stop crime because his brief attempt at stopping a bank robbery made him somewhat of an enemy of the police who don't really tolerate a superpowered vigilante. His supporting cast are his fellow scientists who range from the kindly old mentor to a cynical dirtbag who thinks he should just use his powers to provide clean energy to the world alongside his family and a cop who thinks he's pretty silly with the costume and theatrics but helps him out because she thinks he's a good guy at heart. His enemies could include denizens of the dimension he steals energy from, space pirates and other generic bad guy shit. It's not very original but eh. Another one though it's ungodly stupid and edgy is the idea of a superpowered alien who thinks humanity is contemptible and pathetic but he can't help but help us because we're like a stupid family pet. You may think it's annoying and dumb and but you don't want it playing in traffic or starving to death. Eh, they're not good ideas and I'm not even good enough to create a unique powerset or to nerf the Supes analogs.

>>93122389
I do but he's probably closer to Saitama than Supes now that I think about it. He starts out as a "Street level " hero( think Luke Cage) who's powers begin to increase at an alarming rate the more he fights/trains. He also Jumps rather than fly.

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>>93126967
>>93124963
>>93124861
Hope this is pretty close to what you imagined.

>>93123776
I like these, nice work mang.

>>93127315
Oh Damn! That's Amazing! I didn't even think my idea for a design could work.

There are a few mistakes in communication, though. I won't divulge if you don't want to edit it. It's a kick ass look on its own!

>>93127440
Nah, tell me, might as well do it right. Anyone else want a character drawn while I'm at it?

I set mine up to accomodate all my favorite things at once due to time fuckery. Got a high fantasy setting, a sword/sorcery, a typical superhero and a retro sci-fi meets a touch of sentai settings all separate but totally able to cross over on a whim

>>93127471
Your kindness knows no bounds.

Just two things, really

1. The helmet is the same color as his skin.

2. the eye is like a human eye, with an iris and pupil. the iris is blue.

>>93127565
That's not too hard, brb.

>>93127471
I absolute want a character drawn, but I've got to head to bed so I can work tomorrow.

Any chance you'll be around in the evening?

>>93127609
It's 1 pm here, so I'll be in and out for the next 9 hours or so, otherwise post your request and if I draw it I'll upload it here http://bored-drawfriend.deviantart.com/

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>>93127565
>>93127592

>>93127818
Nice! Thank you so much!

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>>93127664
If it's not too complex, would you mind drawing your interpretation of this character, El Dorado, pulling a victory pose over the prone body of a defeated supervillain?

Please feel free to brighten the gold on his costume; I'm starting to think it's too dark.

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>>93127664
Sorry for being a begging peon, but any chance you'd give my character a draw? The one on the left is the Richard Midnight character from previous posts.

I'd say my main Super Guy hero is a mix of Prime, Shazam,Green Lantern and Thor not really Superman the way I see him.
Gets his power from a sentient space artifact that grants him a juiced up body and all the ass-pull powers he needs, but has still just a young fuck up and is actually a big threat by accident due to good intentions going awry. Eventually he gets chased away from his home world and strikes out as a galactic fuck up...hero

it would be based on this year, things would start out hopeful

everyone used their powers for good
gradually enter gray areas
eventually everyone is chaotic good
everyone abuses their powers
eventually endgame is battle of the gods and world is reset or something

maybe sent back into ancient times where they become Gods and spawn all sorts of creatures and it loops back

>>93122389
Of course. You can't not have a Superman analog. It's a law.

In one verse I have Paragon, an alien child sent in a spaceship to Earth, he's actually a superweapon engineered by alien mad scientists and sent here to escape notice when thir lab gets raided. He looks human because our genetic material is really good for grafting other stuff into.
Because this isn't the 1950s, NASA notices the ship before it passes Saturn and knows where it will land before it passes Mars.
Luckyly the general in charge of project not-Superman-so-Warner-doesn't-sue-the-army is familiar with science fiction so instead of trying to make a living weapon (which invariably leads to a super psychopath) or trying to make him a loyal fanatic soldier (which invariably leads to super dictators), he puts the whole power of the USA into making him a stable, sane, inteligent and good person, generally centrist and only lightly religious. To everybodies surprise it works and he is a genuinely a good guy. He doesn't work FOR the government, but he does work WITH the government.
Power wise he has the flying brick set, his senses are a lot weaker than Supes, and instead of heat vision and ice breath he has an array of much more deadly (and therefore generally useless) powers like radioactive aura, acid blood, desintegration beam, and toxic gas breath. He has a crippling weakness against telepaths (the mad scientist aliens that made him were telepaths themselves).

My second verse has the Golden Prince, tenth incarnation of Vishnu, substituindo Kalki.
Powerwise he's basically a combat Solar Exalt. Personality wise he's more carefree and can quip at his enemies like Spiderman, even puling pranks on the more serious/annoying ones.
I don't know why noone ever made a hero based of that concept, or Ganesha or Hanuman. Maybe the hindus would get really pissed at someone using their religion?

>>93127866
>>93127911
Alright, I'll try these three next.

>>93127315
>>93127818
That is great art. The first one is my favorite as a costume, but the other one has a great non-human vibe. Kudos to you and to the requester.

>>93128430
Thanks so much!

I can't wait to see what you do with El Dorado.

>>93128430
Bro, you're the best!

>http://bored-drawfriend.deviantart.com/

I'm looking through your portfolio and I'm VERY impressed with what I see.

How's your background work; things like buildings, outdoors, interiors, and the like?

>>93128637
>How's your background work; things like buildings, outdoors, interiors, and the like?

fucking rubbish, that's why I haven't published any of my own stories. I got finished scripts out the ass, if I could draw well enough to get them public, I would be.

>>93128516
I'm glad other people enjoy the cyclops look. I agree, though, the initial design looks bad ass! Kinda tempted to see if I can come up with a way to use the design in my universe.

I guess since I'm still here I wonder if others wanna hear about my ideas?

>>93128777
Lay it on us, anon.

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>>93128523

>>93129397
Stupendously bear-mode!

>>93128872
Ok just gonna skim for the prompts.

>How would you go on about this?
Cycling between writing the bible, writing origin stories of cast, and shitty design drawings.

>Would it be contained to one book, like Astro City, or spread out across several series, like the Invincible universe?
One series with specials consisting of limited series for origins, Elseworlds, Holidays maybe, etc.
>Would it be crazy and Silver Agey, modern and edgy, something in between?
My plan would be showing the chronology that makes the shift in eras. Only I would try and make the modern era less edgy. Hopefully
>Would you include homages or would you try to be 100% original?
Seeing as my ideas for heroes are either "X hero with Y" or a character made off a mechanic of other books, homages are inevitable. If interested I could try and make the closest comparisons.
>Is there some kind of big, detonative event in your universe that is responsible for all your superheroes existing? Or do they just exist naturally, like in Marvel and DC?
So far I seem to be leaning on most powers coming from fairytales of old "evolving" through time to become what they are now. I haven't put much thought to it, though.
>Does your story have a gimmick of some kind? Like "superheroes... but with X!" or is it just more like straight up superheroics with no real twist attached?
I guess the twist is regulation and normalization of supers and all the bores of it. But I also wanted to try and make the tastes of genres for different areas (Japan has to fight kaiju so they have a large supply of techies and send off the bricks and zappers)

Anything else you want to know? Insights story? His current team? The first heroes? Regular villains? This is all stuff I have locked down.

>>93129506
>Insights story? His current team? The first heroes? Regular villains?
Current team and villains, please.

Fair warning, I'm not stealing concepts, but I do steal names. Insight is a really good name and I'm making a telepath with that.

>>93129836
I've learned that I'm bound inadvertently copy a name by shear coincidence so I'm no longer worrying about it.

>Hero Name
Orion - The Huntsman who will inevitably be slain by a mutant scorpion.

>Villain Name
Terminal Velocity - A supervillain that can periodically trigger super speed in self-contained bursts. His ability to shift into high gear is based on a limited "fossil fuel esque" fuel source and pushing his powers without adequate "gas in the engine" could prove as catastrogphic to him as to everyone else.

Ansering one of the prompts

>>93079777
>Is there some kind of big, detonative event in your universe that is responsible for all your superheroes existing? Or do they just exist naturally, like in Marvel and DC?
Naturally, but there are some big events that create a large chunk of heroes and villains at once.

Some examples:

In the Golden Prince universe, the old gods know that there is an apocalypse happening, not just the usual cycle of Ragnarok and restart, Quetzacoatls death and rebirth, Kali yuga into Satya Yuga, but an end of times. Oblivion, Nothing, the coming of the Outsider.
So they come of their accord of Free Will which has stopped interference with humanity in the last 2017 years and each pantheon sends one champion to try and stop this End. Includes a few avatars (Golden Prince, Three Eyed Sage, the Thunderer) demigods (Phantom Thief, Thunder Samurai) empowered champions (Sunhawk, Moon Hunter) and ressurected Heroes (Waverider, War Hound)

From Paragons universe, an attempt to summon a Duke of Hell gets interrupted. Besides the interrupter absorbing much of the energy from the ritual and gaining powers, the devil uses the rest of the unleashed power to whisper in a hundred peoples ears "What is your wish?" and grant those wishes. These wishes, unknown to the wishers, appear to have good endings but all have a corrupting influence. The event creates one of the main heroes of the setting (Shadow Sentinel, a magic based Batman analog) plus a few other heroes and many villains. There is a planned arc dealing with those other heroes finding their powers came from the devil, trying to deal with the corruption, and going to Hell to try and break the deal.

>>93129836
>I do steal names. Insight is a really good name and I'm making a telepath with that.
How dare you.

Anyway here's my current team line up.

>Insight
Leader of the team. Overseer of West America hero activities. He is in a position that none of his peers want him in. Because of the heroes love of grandfathering people with rule changes Insight is one of the only known heroes with no name connected to him. Which is fine to Insight as he's a secretive mofo. He's been a hero since his preteens. He has known success and failure. His team has in recent years changed from a detention team to a team proper. He specializes in Detective skills and power enhanced combat. His power is to create simple Hard like constructs. He can create them where there is room (with some exception) and can determine the strength of them.

His team is a Teen team. Feel like that needs to be said.

>Cameo
First Homebound member of Insight's team. Secretly Insights adopted ward. She is one of a select few that know Insight's face and name. Very Outgoing and chipper. Being the next in line for leadership, Cameo is not afraid to speak up if Insight makes a mistake or talk back when she has a good feeling about an argument. She specializes in Detective work and powered range offense. Her power is to give metal objects extreme velocity by touch. She uses coins as her main power medium. However if something doesn't move when the coin hits, she will. She uses this to her advantage by flinging coins to the ground to make her fly in the air.

>Sinnah (Sin-uh)
The second homebound hero. A very quiet kid if you don't he doesn't know you, once you and he are friends he's willing to do anything to make sure you and every other friend is having a good time. An odd techie, he not only insists on fighting crime, but is known to give inventions to others. A techie that specializes in fire expulsion.

That's about halfway.

>>93130257
I've learned that if you spend enough time on wikis, you'll find all the good names and many bad ones have been taken already. Possibly by an X-Man villain or a GI Joe. I'm just happy if it's not the name of a main character of a webcomic, superhero book or rpg setting.

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>>93126999
Alright, here's the revisions in black and white...

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>>93131353
And here are my interpretations in color. I got really lazy with Perun and Spriggan because I drew all of Perun's upper body first and then I ran out of space for his legs, so he looks really weird and disproportionate. Spriggan looks bad just because I suck at drawing giants. I just couldn't be assed to fix them.

The rest turned out alright, I kinda like Harrier and Upgrade.

>>93131185
>How dare you.
He who dares wins.
Few free to steal some names back >>93131111

Some names for anyone who wants:
Speedsters:
Blueshift: My version is a low level speedster with a blue aura that she can use to form hard energy constructs.
Mach One: Mad scientist that created an armor to give himself superspeed.

Telepaths:
Mastermind: Superinteligent telepath who started as a villain, but then realized he didn't like hurting people. Escaping the gang he created, he cut a deal with Shadow Sentinel to become a hero. He kept the name because it's really cool.
Synapse: Can absorb and release eletricity, but can also use stored eletricity to gain superspeed or telepathy for short amounts of time.
Ecto-Knight: Telepath and telekinetic, capable of summoning armor and and weapons out of solidfied ectoplasm.

>>93131185
Cont.

>Tera
A girl out of her time. Literally. Flung to the future by an unfinished time spell of a warlock she killed, Tera finds herself in the present, alone and in Insight's secret home. She is then educated and becomes Insight's second ward. She is also the first hint on where powers come from as she is the Epitome of earth, A group that consists of the most powerful of a particular element. Having no family to keep a secret from, Tera freely uses her identity with her heroics. Her specialty is Terrain and Weapons. Her power is earth manipulation.

>Mic
3rd Homebound member. A techie that is odd in wanting to face danger, but not like Sinnah. Mic is the youngest of the group and is least likely to speak against Insigh because of it. His goto strategy to both training and inventing is to do something wrong until it's right. While inefficient he has made many useful inventions for his arsenal. He often gets lost in his inventing process. He is a techie that specializes in Audio.

>Ghost
The newest member and 4th homebound member. A guy who outside of heroics doesn't like being the center of attention. Would be more than happy to get things done without/before a fuss is made. His power is to walk through walls and throw sounds. My sis wants this guy to be my "brownie points" character. Probably not gonna do that

Let's see how many villains i can get in one post

>Smile gang
A group of villains that are defined by their leather wear and creepy smiling animal masks. They are all powered, some weak (UV sight) some extremely dangerous (Techie specilize in recreation prestudied organics) Infighting and Insight's team has kept them from advancing so far but their connections seem to run deep and the upper hand could be had any day.

>>93131281
GI Joe and Transformers has taken every fucking name I've ever come up with. I've never been a fan of either so it's not subconsious.
I'll do a search and without fail the first result is one or the other's wiki

If this thread is still around tomorrow, would anyone be interested in a short storytime?

>>93132431
If the thread is still up I would be very interested

>>93132259
Conclusion

I'll only give a couple more reoccurring villains to round off everything

>Vecna & Splinter
Edge. Vecna is a perfect example of an edgy teen. Whether it's what he was meant to be or forced upon him remains to be seen. His power is to reanimate any well kept dead matter, even if said matter wasn't that animated to begin with. Case in point: Splinter, Vecna's Treant. crafted from bark, slugs, rats, and other common dead things, Splinter is the dumb muscle, somehow flame proof (working on that still)

>Leigon of Gewintíd
Cult group that wants to revive the warlock killed by Tera. Becomes Tera's top priority and only chance to learn of her past friends' fate.

If there are any other questions I'll try to get to them tomorrow.

>>93132431
Yes

>>93132553
>Vecna
>reanimates dead
I don't know if I hate you or love you.

>>93132485
>>93132553
Alright, be forewarned though: it's not MY comic, but it is what I consider to be the gold standard of world-building in non-Big Two superhero comics

>>93132610
You can do both. I don't judge.

This anon >>93123004 here
Does anyone have a good name for a hero whose power is basically this http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/EM_Spectrum_Manipulation
He is an energy controller who manipulates most of the Electromagnetic Spectrum
I'm leaning toward Spectrum or Doctor/Dr.Spectrum but both of those are Marvel characters and I kinda want to try something different before I take an established name
Energy related names are preferred but anything would help

>>93132718
Wavechange

or if you're keen on keeping the the doctor theme

EMMD

>>93132718
Well, I came up with hero who was like Rain Man but to a superhuman degree named Spectro.

>>93126403
>Just wanna say this is probably the most product "write thread/create thread" I've seen in a long while.
Whatever happened to /co/'s write threads, anyways?

>>93132612
I'm really curious as to what it is now. Care to tell us in case we miss the storytime?

>>93133012
lewdfags couldn't help shitting them up.

>>93133683
But we have /aco/ now, surely that changes things?

>>93069584
OP is that a officially published comic?

>>93132718
One idea, is to choose what energy the character prefers to use and name based on that, like marvel did with Photon (formerly Captain Marvel), so:
Lightwave, Chromatic, Gamma, X-Ray
You can also just pick a related phisics word: Wavelenght, Particle-Wave, Frequency, Terahertz, Wavefront, Helicon (research that, it's cool)
Alternatively, you can go more cosmic/mystical: Cosmic Ray, Star Light, Star Heart

Honestly, the best ones, Spectrum, Photon and Nova, are already taken.

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>>93127911

>>93134026
Nope, it's a PnP RPG