Mr Incredible vs Meta Man

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>Meta Man

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>Mr. Incredible

>>93064620
>>93064641
I'm gonna go with Mr. Incredible.
He'd eat the other guy alive.

>>93064641
That's of boysenberry pies

>>93064620
Meta Man's indestructibility is not good.

He was killed by getting snagged on a High-Speed elevator.

Mr. Incredible could seemingly win with one clean shot.

>>93064641
>ability to sense imminent danger
he had an incredi-sense? didn't see that in the movie

anyway Meta Man seems broken. Could probably kill him with Teleportation and magnetic manipulation depending on how powerful they were.

>>93064641
>"MR. INEDIBLE"

"Man is really girthy. I mean it would take a person with an elastic jaw to..."

>>93064667
>didn't see that in the movi
He did sense danger when coming back from the burning building.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s60px65Rz0M
>>93064628
>>93064641
What's the difference between super strength and mega strength? Their strength stats are the same.

>>93064667
>didn't see that in the movie
could it be the scene where he senses bomb-voyage's bomb in the bank vault?

Even so, you'd think it would have come into play more, like when the 2nd Omni Droid grabbed him from that conference room.

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>>93064706
>the nickname has nothing to do with food

>>93064667
Whole island was a danger so it probably was too active to focus.

>>93064716
Hmm. "Mega" seems higher than "Super" to me.

Maybe it's implied they both max out the strength scale, but Mr. Incredible has a higher ceiling?

>>93064620
Anyone else want to see a flashback of all these supers in their prime?

I want shit like "The Thrilling Three" to actually matter in the second film.

I've autistically loved this lore since the DVD came out when I was 9.

>>93064628
How do you have super strength but such pitiful indestructibility?

>>93064620
Tfw this a demographically aimed question for Disney Execs for what situations are going to be in the Incredibles 2

>>93064730
"Damn thing cracks the tiles in the locker room showers. We've had to patch the walls three times this month since that Elastigirl joined up."

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>>93064773
>Incredibles 2
If "Master Race" Gamma Jack isn't in it, I don't want it.

>>93064761
Could be a conscious effort going by the rest of the abilities.

>>93064794
>yfw Jack trashed the 1st Omnidroid and then faked his death with the 2nd after realizing it was a trap

>yfw Jack is collecting supers from around the world and putting them in a breeding program to raise the Master Race

>>93064794
>Threat rating 7.9
When will threatlets learn?

>>93064706
Considering there aren't any other females with extreme durability, Helen is literally the only woman on earth that could handle Bob.

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>>93064794

Seeing all those dead heroes and all that lost potential really hit me hard when I first saw this. Some of them seemed really neat, too

>>93064620
Meta would probably get a lot of hits in considering his powers, but Incredible just needs to hit him once, from the look of it. It would go on for a while, but Mr. Incredible is fairly resourceful, especially with them both at their primes, and would survive nearly any onslaught long enough to think of a plan to get the opening he needed.

>>93064834
Same bro.

Hearing some of the audio files makes it sad when you know how they end up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d73WtJlko9E

>>93064841
Yeah, especially with Meta's low intelligence. Doesn't say he has super speed either, so it's not like he could evade Bob's attacks.

>>93064826
OFFICIAL THREAT LEVEL RANKINGS

>1. Meta Man: 9.7
>2. Mr Incredible: 9.1
POWER GAP
>3. Gamma Jack: 7.9
>4. Hyper Shock: 7.5
POWER GAP
>5. Stormicide: 6.7
>6. Apogee: 6.5
>7. Downburst: 6.5
>8. Elastigirl: 6.2
POWER GAP
>9. Macroburst: 5.9
>10. Blazestone: 5.5
>11. Phylange: 4.7
POWER GAP
>12. Everseer: 3.2
>13. Universal Man: 2.9
>14. Psychwave: 1.6

>>93065116
wasn't it implied in the audio files that Blazestone can shift between dimensions, even though the NSA didn't have it as one of her powers?

>>93064866
Wait is Blazestone Frozone's wife?

>>93065265
No, they were just superhero partners. It's implied Frozone had a crush for a while, though.

Frozone's wife (we never actually see her) is voiced by a black woman and sounds nothing like Blazestone.

>>93065265
It says she USED to date him. And Frozone's wife sounds black.

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I remember having a dream about reading an Mr. Incredible comic done in the Golden Age / Jack Kirby style. I wish could do lucid dreaming so I could read it again

>>93065330
>Disney owns Pixar
>Disney owns Marvel

why haven't there been any Incredibles comics?

Maybe there will be to promote I2?

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>>93065355
If it was in that classic 40s art style, I'd collect all of them.

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It'll be interesting to see how the kids powers are changed as they age.

I feel like both Violet and Jack-Jack have the potential to be extremely OP.

As long as they don't give Dash speedforce he should be a well-balanced super.

>>93064620
Meta Man is more useful in his sheer versatility, but Mr. Incredible's nigh indestructibility is one of the most useful powers to have, as it counters most threats any superhero could face.

>>93064628
>died from suit malfunction

This guy died because of a fucking cape incident didn't he? How can he beat incredible?

>>93065524
Oh, but if you're talking about a fight between the two I give it to Mr. Incredible. Meta Man has a hard time hurting him, but Mr. Incredible can put the hurt on Meta Man very easily.

>>93064662
*a lot of

>>93065450
speedforce faster-than-planc-time BS is in no way a requirement for OP speedsters, its just that DC's writers don't think superpowers count unless they're graced with a no limits fallacy.

>>93065450
Jack-Jack could be the most powerful super

He has the powers of
>Pyrokinesis
>Teleportation
>Gravity manipulation
>Turning into a demon with super-strength
>Turning into solid metal
>Levitation
>Phasing through solid objects
anything else?

>>93065746
Laser vision, and he's also apparently really strong as he chews through solid bars in the cage he's put in.

>>93065746
I believe that powers are determined by personality, so jack jack's powers should fall away over time as he develops.
Huh... that raises the question, can brain damage cause a supers powers to change? People with brain damage sometimes have huge personality shifts. interesting thought.

>>93064628
>>93064641
what the fuck is the POWER TYPE bar even supposed to quantify?

I mean...
-What's your power type?
-5
-...the fuck?

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>>93065330
I got you.

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>>93064889
>so it's not like he could evade Bob's attacks.
>teleportation

>>93064816
not gonna happen.

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>>93065836

Thank you

>>93065997
If not then the greatest lore of Incredibles is wasted

>3rd most powerful hero in canon
>Aryan Ideal
>Believes in racial superiority
>Probably fucked lots of female supervillains
>Power Type is radiation bursts

He'd be a really cool villain.

So between his extreme durability even for a super, danger sense and the apparent fact the government was willing to put up with a LOT of shit just for him

anyone else think Bob was also the government's failsafe against other supers going rogue?
Could be why even guys like Gamma Jack never tried anything to stupid, because all of them knew that while they could cause a shitload more collateral damage, none of them could reliably take out Mr Incredible.

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>>93066073
Yeah, Bob does seem to be the golden boy of the NSA. That explains why Agent Dicker was so forgiving of Bob's repeated screw-ups in hiding.

Bob also seems to be the only Super that was given a vehicle like the Incredi-bile. Favoritism from the NSA?

>>93064834

> that guy who just wanted to raise orphan kids and was probably gay.

>>93065355
>why haven't there been any Incredibles comics?
You're an idiot.
http://pixar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incredibles_(Boom!_Studios)

>>93066530
oh right, because EVERYBODY knows about an obscure unfinished Boom! Studios comic from 2009

you'd have to be an idiot not to have heard of it

>>93065836
You are a nice guy and a smart guy.

>>93064794
>belives supers are a superior race
>womanizer
>3rd most powerful super
>biggest potential for becomign a supervillain
man if he's not in the sequel it would be such a waste.

>>93064628
>Blessed with all those OP stats
>borderline retarded and fragile as a normal human

>>93066591
Or a newfag casual who wasn't here for all the fucking Mesmerella threads.

>>93066690
hypnofetishists are degenerates

>>93064628
Did Meta Man have autism?

>>93064794
>tfw want to be gamma jack
>tfw would probably be downburst

>>93065814
>Huh... that raises the question, can brain damage cause a supers powers to change?
Yes, we've all seen that episode of Static Shock.

>>93066591
If I recall correctly, there's another Incredibles comic as well.
Either way, you're a fucking retard who doesn't know how Google works.

>>93065832
Range of abilities. Mr. Incredible has a really limited set of what his powers are, so low power type. Metaman can do almost everything except "not die from choking on his cape" and telepathy so he's got a high power type level

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If Mr. Incredible was an actual comic book superhero, how would he change with the times?

>>93066073
>>93066255
Bob also might have just had a generally good relationship with the NSA. They weren't just coworkers, they were his buddies.

He also might have gotten the Incredi-bile as both a gift and something to compensate for Bob likely lacking much in the way of travel powers. Even Elasti-girl can basically slingshot herself around town.

Bob? Well, he might be able to use his superstrength to jump really really high and far, but since the Incredibles does play powers a bit on the realistic side, he'd likely also leave massive craters both from the take-off and landing.

>>93067506
that pic needs a late 2000's/early 2010's stage
>Younger
>no trunks
>unnescary lines
>art by Jim Lee

>>93066073
>Could be why even guys like Gamma Jack never tried anything to stupid, because all of them knew that while they could cause a shitload more collateral damage, none of them could reliably take out Mr Incredible.
Was Mr Incredible really that powerful? I know they say invulnerability, but to the point of being able to brush off molecular manipulation or literal radiation?

>>93067671
It could simply be that he was just popular, and his very high threat level is due to Syndrome's personal bias against him.

>>93067794
I rewatched the movie yesterday and I didn't remember Syndrome being such a wimp. He has that zero gravity gun or whatever, but he wasn't really that much.

>>93066734
So you're both a newfag and a normalfag. What makes you think it is okay for you to post her?

Meta Man
>Cape

Mr Incredible
>No cape.

Mr Incredible wins by this alone.

>>93067067
>tfw want to be Gazerbeam
>would probably be Thunderhead

>>93068099
It also seems that some supers had a tendancy of being on the dumb side as well forvsome reason.

>>93068227
Maybe their powers erode their brains, or the way they use them.
Flying at such speeds might make their brain collision with their cranium, for example.

>>93068275
Like with how fast Blazestone talks?

>>93065330

>dat pic

W-wait....

Isn't choco poison for doggo?

I.... I'm sad now....

>>93068413
She was in a different dimension. Somehow. Because I thought her power was making fire.

>>93064794
>Listen to his profile
>Literally says he KILLS his villains even the women
Is Gamma Jack the best?

>>93068453
Not only that. but the way he kills them. Either complete disintegration or death by radiation poisoning.

>>93068453
Pretty sure the mentality with most heros/NSA/the public was that killing villians was OK. But yeah, Gamma Jack is great and I hope he's in, or at least mentioned in I2.

>>93068424
Depends on the breed - mixed breeds are more resilient. In any case, it's ok in small quantities.

>>93068492
If killing villains was okay when heroes were around then why did the villains disappeared when the government took the heroes out?

>>93068424
>Isn't choco poison for doggo?
It's poison for humans too, we just have better livers and a bigger body. So, it takes way more to kill a human.

>>93068552
I assume long running villains who supers were willing to take in alive were more like Flash's Rogues and not very likely to leave a trail of bodies behind.

>>93068449
Probably has a secondary dimensional shifting power that the NSA doesn't know about.

>>93065814
basically Legion from the x-men

>>93068552
Maybe they didn't.

Maybe the military just dealt with supervillains after supers had to go into hiding.

>>93068482
He probably gave a lot of bystanders cancer.

>>93068453
Gamma Jack didn't fuck around.

Well he did...but. You know what I mean.

>>93068705
I wonder if super heroes in this universe had a rougues gallery. Each hero would have their own villains to take care of, or if heroes just fought villains without much constant order.
Just imagine being a villain in this world; depending on who came to fight you, say, Mr Incredible of Gamma Jack you'd know when to bail.

>>93068817
That seems a little odd. Why didn't the military deal with them back when there were heroes as well? That kind of military presence would be very apparent in the cities if they were always on edge waiting for any nutjob on a giant drill to unleash the molepeople on the surface dwellers.

>>93068830
They were onto him; one wrong step and he'd be given the supervillain treatment. One can only wonder why such a powerful guy with leanings towards evil chose to be hero rather than a villain.

>>93064794
I wish they had one hero who managed to kill two of those bots in a row and going to a draw with the third

>>93068898
Probably the praise all the heroes got. He'd rather have a bunch of fan girls swarming him than have people fear him.
Though that begs the question of why he didn't have a meltdown and go full villain once heroes had to go into hiding.

>>93068963
You know Gamma Jack reminds me of Ozymandias albiet more powerful and arrogant but less smarter

>>93068963
Who says he didn't? Maybe he did go full villain in one last show. Hell, just imagine the Government actually getting in contact with Syndrome to build something to kill him, unknowing that he had been working on it for a while now.

>>93069010
If you look at his chart you'll see he was among the most intelligent heroes. This guy was a very dangerous combination.

>>93068898
I think that makes him a better hero if he doesn't go villian.
>Has potential villian attitude/questionable morales
>Has deadly powers that suit super villians well
>Has government and other heros constantly watching to make sure he doesn't step out of line
>Feels like one bad day could make him go nuclear
>Still desires to be a hero and do good
I love stuff where the world is against a hero but they stay good.

>>93065746
>>93065767
Maybe he's a reality warper?

What I don't get about the series is that when the Supers went under and went into hiding, what happened to all the villains? They quit too? Like are we expected to believe that supervillains were taken down by some other means? Bit weird.

>>93069097
It's a possibility that super villians were just killed and the police/government could handle the street level baddies.

>>93064620
what id love to watch is a Megamind vs The incredibles movie.

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>>93067506
something like this

>>93069152
That's probably what happened once the gov. started intervenimg and things became more serious than usual, lots of villains must've started to back out thinking that it wasn't worth it anymore.

>>93069051
Could be.

Seems as if he's just inventing new superpowers for himself based on what is convenient at the time - Silver Age Supes

>>93069097
Bob and Frozone took them all out during their Bowling Nights over the course of 15 years.

>>93069152
Following from this >>93066073 , maybe some supers started working directly with the government, and covertly neutralized most, if not all villains. I wouldn't be surprised if Gamma Jack was among these super-operatives.

>>93065116
>Psychwave: 1.6
>Take a heroine whos power is to take over people's minds, and put her, alone, against a giant mindless murder machine

I don't know where they even got the .6 from. What was syndrome supposed to learn from that?

>>93066073
Well when most of your heroes get killed off I'm sure they have the extra funds to give their few remaining tried and true heroes some better shit. They even got Edna to give the whole family new shit, despite saying it'd cost a pretty penny for Elastigirl alone.

>>93069533
I bet the first few invitees were just supers that pissed him off or he deemed as long-term threats once Kronos was actually complete.

>>93069533
Maybe being able to check if she could take over artificial intelligence as well and thus install preventive measures against telepathic abilities?

>>93069533
A psychic would be more dangerous to Syndrome once he's pretending to be a super post-Kronos.

Better to take her out before she could endanger Syndrome's fake super persona

>>93064716
>What's the difference between super strength and mega strength?
This is something I cam across while trying to write a superhuman setting.

There's two possibilities either
1.Mr.Incredible's strength stat is uncapped and develops as he exerts himself or at least above what they can conventionally measure on earth and just showing it at max is the best way to convey that
2.These stats vary depending on who they apply to, that is Meta Man's strength scale is relative to humans, ergo at max it refers to super strength. Mr.Incredible's strength scale is relative to SUPERhumans, ergo at max it refers to SUPER superhuman strength, i.e. Mega Strength. That isn't to say everything else is on the superhuman scale but that the clarification beneath in POWERS might be to inform the reader that this can be the case.

After all if you think about it, and I thought about it, there's really nothing logically explaining the nature of the powers (even if genetics or radiation or gets involved it doesn't explain HOW the powers are formed and grow and limited, etc it's just an excuse why they're there) therefore there's nothing to say that just because a chart made for them indicates one thing that it must be like that for the character.I don't mean to say everything on the chart is meaningless, though it could be, more that as I stated before it depends on the tests. The technology they used to measure these things could be limited, therefore the results can only tell them what the person is capable of relative to the limitations of the machines or others they interact with not the person's upper limit.

I can't recall if there was a plot point to this in my story, but I do recall some people intentionally sandbagging so their charts would read false.

>>93065746
I've heard that in an interview, Bird said Jack-Jack had all that because babies are essentially infinite potential. All the family are the same - they have powers based on their stereotype. The head of the house is strong. The housewife is able to stretch herself thin juggling so much. The teenage girl is shy and keeps people away. The young boy is endlessly energetic and never stops moving.

I would assume as JJ grows, he'd lose most of those powers until he has something more solid

>>93069863
Yes but do you think Violet and Dash had multiple powers when they were little?

Jack-Jack's case seems to be that the Mozart music "made him smarter" and unlocked all of his powers that he couldn't use at all before.

When I first saw this movie at age 9, I didn't grasp the fact that the opening sequences was set in the 1950s.

Now I think it's probably the coolest part of the film.

>>93069051
Could be a psychic. Pulling a superboy and imitating powers using telekinesis and shit.

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>>93064641
>a liter of mayonnaise
Jesus

>>93070057
Mr. Incredible is a brilliant tactician.

He and Thunderhead were tied at 58 total pies when Bob realized he wouldn't be able to keep up with Thunderhead for much longer.

>Sees Mayo Jar
>Grossly consumes entire liter in front of Thunderhead, who he knows is grossed out by Mayo
>Thunderhead pukes
>Mr. Incredible wins
Brilliant

I wonder at which point in history super heroes began popping up. Probably after WWII.
This raises the question; are there superheroes anywhere else in the world, or where they just an American phenomena?
The supers they had registered were quite scarce; maybe they were extremely exceptional in the world as a whole.

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>>93064620
I have always imagined that one of Mr. Incredible's old villains work at this same office
They look at each other and go back to work

>>93070744
Nah, Bob would wait for him after work and fuck him up.

>>93070869
Bob doesn't strike me as that type of hero. He wouldn't attack him unless he was doing something evil or at least illegal.

>>93064620
Meta Man has no durability. A single punch from Bob should liquify his skull.

>>93064628
How do you have top level superstrength but no durability?

>>93071661
>>93071681
>no durability
He's just not conventionally indestructible, his durability isn't really covered. Though, yes, it's likely if Bob so much as flicked him in the head he'd be out just like that and anything he did to Bob wouldn't even register.

>>93070135
This makes complete sense. Bob is a fucking mad man

>>93065836
This seems racially insensitive.

>>93064761
>>93071681
Maybe he is a psychic type that does not understand it. He is lift things with his mind but he is using his hands so he assumes it is physical.

>>93071817
He has a lot of telekinetic powers, so that might be where his "super strength" comes from. He probably has the body of a normal human, but it would raise the question of why his powers couldn't supplement his durability. He'd be pretty OP in that case.

>>93069051
>>93070019
I think control over his own molecules was the main explanation.

But I like the idea of powers manifesting according to their personality. When JackJack develops more his powers will stabalize.

>>93069533
He learnt to make 'we had to evacuate the island' part of the initial story.

He lost half his guard force that day as they all futiley tried to create a meat shield to save Psychwave.

I'm curious about how powers work in this universe. Bob and Helen have 3 kids and none of them have a power even close to theirs.
Dash has super speed
Violet can make force fields and turn invisible
Jack Jack can apparently shapeshift and all sorts of weird stuff.

Can non-super parents give birth to a super baby? And can Super parents give birth to a non-super baby?

>>93072382
Powers sort of manifest at childhood like marvel mutants.

Frozone's recording talks about it.

>>93072409
But there's obviously something hereditary about it since supers have super children, and the government had a 'no super child policy' (that Bob and Helen broke) I prevent more supers. There's no explanation on how they first came to be, or how they could pop up again without having a super parent.

>>93072842
Yes but that's the same in comics too. Mutants have mutant kids, FF have superpowered kids etc.

>>93064667
Its talking about his car you dumb fuck

>>93072932
Franklin Richards is a Mutant though.

>>93065116
Good loist but 0.3 beetwen elastgirl and macrobust is not a power gap

>>93069034
Did you ever read boku no hero academia? The asshole kid gets kidnapped by the villains because they want to recruit him and then blows up at them. Its crazy how they made him the most popular character after he literally told the mc to kill himself in the first chapter

>>93073122
And the point?

>>93073176
He has a pet galactus

>>93073176
The point is your comparison is not a comparison at all. Supers in the Incredibles have super children. You seem to think that they are all just randomly powered.

>>93072842
Don't think anyone was refuting that. But in the second disc the Frozone recording had him talk about how when he was a kid he wanted a popsicle and he ended up freezing his cool aid.

So that first generation the powers just sort of appeared.

kind of sad that all the supes from his time died in action or were wiped out by Syndrome's plot.

Only three of the old guard remaining plus the kids?

>>93073371
>>93073176

Hi samefag,

And no you were trying to say that all supers manifest their powers randomly. When presented proof that they do not (which is fucking obvious with 3 superpowered kids and a deleted scene talking about banning supers from breeding) this is just fucking retarded

>>93073502
It's even sadder when you think about how supers like Downburst went out, when you listen to his audio file you could that he was clearly retarded and was only recently gaining attention. They used to keep him backstage and have him at his own table!

>>93064641
What in blazes is Incredibile? Is that what gives him powers?

>>93069051
That's not how you spell plot device

>>93072382
The true mystery is how a blonde and a brunette had two blond boys and a black haired girl.

>>93073991
>what is hair dye

>>93064620
>>93064628
>>93064641
Well it's settled then. Mr. Incredible wins by virtue of not being dead.

>>93073609
It's his car, fuckwit.

>>93072981
"Ability to sense imminent danger" is listed above the car's description.

The incredibile has a "danger finder".

>>93073991
Well the boys take after their father, and I guess Helen has a recessive brown hair gene, and most of her family had black hair.

>>93069193
Christ that's accurate

>>93073609
It's the car. A play on "Batmobile."

I see how it can be read as Incredi-bile, like some mutated vomit (bile) that gives power.

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>>93064628
Meta Man's greatest power was his giraffe-like neck.

Looks like pic related

>>93070435
Incredibles has underrated cinematography tbqh

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anyone else think Splashdown totally survived being sucked into the vortex? He has the powerset to do it:

>Flight
>Ability to breathe underwater
>High-speed underwater travel
>Communicates with aquatic animals
Plus:
>Loner
>Obsessed with finding Atlantis

Most importantly: MISSING (not dead)
>*Suspected* Suit Malfunction

I'm betting he survived and found Atlantis and simply hasn't returned. Maybe he found something down there.

>>93072842
Bod and Helen broke that policy? I mean, getting scott free with breaking it once is already kind of a stretch, but three fucking times?

>>93075548
>>93075548
>I'm betting he survived and found Atlantis and simply hasn't returned. Maybe he found something down there.
A man can dream.

Also The Incredibles has probably one of the most well thought out comic universes of all time. I keep finding new things to enjoy. Thanks OP for the thread. Lastly, Mr. Incredible's first costume is pure sex.
>That color scheme.
>That domino mask.
>Those gloves.
>That dotted I being a different color from the main suit.
>No cape.

>>93073569
To be fair, most super heroes in those clips sound insane or straight up retarded. Did the radiation that granted them with their powers also affect their brain functionality or something?

>>93075548
Maybe he just took the opportunity and decided to keep looking for it, and hasn't found it

So, what are you expectations for the sequel?

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>>93075737
>Mr. Incredible's first costume is pure sex.
Agreed. We're luck we have it - the 2003 theatrical trailer (Bob getting an emergency call and trying to squeeze into his suit) made it seem like he always wore the Red/Black suit.

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>>93075740
Maybe they were normal at first but living the life of a superhero where they are repeatedly punched in the head, and then take in some hits from robots, random thugs, cars, and weapons they all eventually end up talking like Mohammed Ali.

>>93076212
I guess that applies to the most invincible ones, but most superheroes whose power isn't taking bullets seem as fragile as regular humans, so one can only wonder how much punishment they would be able to endure in fights to the death without actually biting it.

>>93076059
Each Pixar sequel has done one thing consistently well: expand the universe

>Toy Story 2:
added tons of new characters and concepts, like the toy store/toy collectors/museums

>Cars 2:
While it wasn't a great film, it greatly expanded the Cars universe through international races

>Monsters University
Showed a completely new aspect to the Monster world: old scarers, monsters U/Fear Tech, and backstory on both MCs.

>Finding Dory
The aquarium scenes showed an entirely new aspect to the lives of sea creatures. The weak parts of the movie were those rehashing the 1st.

>>93076297
Because of all of this, I'm hopeful that Incredibles 2 will be packed full of new NSA Lore.

They need to keep the family dynamic in focus, though. Show consistent character progression. It will fail if they have characters REGRESS (Violet shy again, Helen controlling of the kid's powers, Bob less open to his family)

>>93076345
I'm eagerly anticipating the villain. These guys knew how to design interesting heroes; the villains they could come up with are just staggering.
I still hope they use Gamma Jack as a villain. There's a lot of potential there.
Hell, just to see him hitting on Violet during their fight would make it all worth it.

This is always worth another watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JxsZEZPkYE

>>93076571
Love to see this sort of thing return, even better if the cartoon was of Elastigirl while she commentates.

>>93076249
You would think they would age as well as a wrestler. By 40 they have plastic knees and heart problems.

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>>93076122
>those posters
Looks like they only changed his costume in the final version of the movie

Can Meta Man see why the kids love the taste of _____Hypercrisis______?

>>93076893
>Mr. Incredible Sings

Yeah I'm gonna need that on the next bonus DVD

>>93069899
There's a deleted scene (which is non-canon anyway but it was so good it made they use Syndrome as the main villain) where baby Violet just had invisibility. Jack Jack's powers are partly due to his undefined potential, but they do reflect to some degree the powers he'll have as an adult.

How did Syndrome kill Gamma Jack? How did Gamma Jack even adjust to civilian life?

>>93072842
Supers not breeding was only a thing in early drafts of the film. It's not in the actual finished picture, they could breed all they like so long as their kids kept their powers secret too.

>>93077906
Rad-proofed the Omnidroid. He looked at it non-plussed after he gave it a patented Hiroshima Fallout and it smashed him to pieces with a single claw.

He paid a lot of hookers to dress up as supervillains, told them he left their money on the table and he vaporized them when he saw them taking more money from his wallet than he thought they earned, because that would be theft.

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>>93078037
>Gamma Jack as a man whore serial killer with a fetish for supervillains who gets his rocks off by killing them after having sex with them

I'd honestly watch that. C'mon Pixar.

>>93065836
>that elasti-nip

>>93078172
You think Disney will ever put Marvel to use and make a comic universe

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>>93079547
They had a perfectly good comic over at Boom, but then they pulled the plug the moment Marvel was bought out and did nothing since.

What's worse is it happened just before the start of the finale.

>>93078892
kek

I realize its supposed to be the "e" from her emblem but I cannot unsee

>>93079606
Helen's hip to waist ratio is still lewd, I see

good.

>>93079606
I remember the comic but I mean an actual full universe, maybe a non canon story about the golden age of heroes. There's just so much detail but into it it just seems like wasted potential

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>>93079674
>>93079606
Golden Age Mr. Incredible comics in a period art style (Watchmen-inspired?) would be absolutely god-tier.

Have some Cold War themes. Supers fighting in Vietnam and Korea.

>>93076612
Yeah, Brad Bird did the original one so I'm sure he hasn't forgotten about it.

>>93070744
Isn't that basically the premise of Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law?

>>93079737
>>93079737
I don't really want anything too serious just fun involving supers. Maybe more serious stuff when they're forced to go underground

>>93064716
This scene always bugs me.
>You act like that's a bad thing
>It IS a bad thing
I mean, granted she's a mother and her kids are gonna come first, and she's right about Bob's glory days motivations, but no one seems to care that like 10 people are alive now when they would have been dead.
Isn't that the bottom line?

>>93068930
If they fought the second they'd know it was a trap, the wouldn't come back to fight a third.

>>93081860
It's more that Bob didn't do it to save the people and is putting his family at risk again. Like when they hear it over the police scanner Bob celebrates and gets excited. Not only that but we get the sense that this isn't the first time they've had to move or that Bob's listened to the police scanner

>>93081860
Because there will always be people in danger, Bob saving some of them one time doesn't change that. Helen was worried about their family more than trying to save everyone which is basically trying to save a sinking ship with a thimble.

>>93064716
Mega strength may imply some kind of added force manipulation similar to Superman. Bob might be able to add inertia to things alongside his powerful muscles. Throwing his boss with enough raw strength to send him through that many walls should have just torn him apart before he hit the first one, but Bob's "Mega strength" might have just added some continuous force to his body.

>>93082148
Yeah, medicine can't make us immortal, why do we even bother having doctors?
>>93082026
Yeah, I get that. He was doing it for the wrong reasons at that point. But, so what? 10 people are still alive. Some child saw their mother again, some father didn't have to bury his son, some family got to sit down and have dinner together, some sibling didn't wake up an only child. Who gives a shit why?

>>93082476
It's medicine to some guy you don't know, Helen wants Bob to be present with the family and not trying to cure everyone in the world with a cold.

>>93075548
That's an awesome theory.

>>93064667
>Could probably kill him with Teleportation and magnetic manipulation depending on how powerful they were.
Except Metaman is also a fucking idiot. Teleportation and magnetic powers are best used creatively, and this guy's got no int stat at all.

>>93082476
The "so what" is putting his family at risk again. They say multiple times that they're on their las few moves

>>93082508
>>93082508
"A cold" is a minor inconvenience you can't do anything about.
DYING is typically the worst thing that can happen to a person, and Bob can prevent it.

>>93064716
>What's the difference between super strength and mega strength?
"Super" just means "Above normal" with no specific number. "Mega" however, means "one million" implying that Mr. Incredible's strength is either one million times higher than a normal person's or that he's capable of lifting one million pounds. Consider that he gets to squatting train cars for a workout to get himself back into shape and it seems to make sense. A loaded train car weighs around 300,000 pounds. In his prime could he lift three of them at once? Sure, maybe, hence "mega".

>>93065746
Creative limit for his power: he can manifest whatever power he wants, but he can only use a given power once... ever. So he never gets to learn a power or get good with it. He constantly feels the need to save "good" powers, choosing lame powers as much as possible. He frequently fails to consider the total implications of more reality-breaking type powers, and has a self-imposed (family-encouraged) ban on using them.

>>93068898
One thing people have noticed about the Incredibles universe is that it doesn't really seem to have super-powered villains. Giants monsters and things, yeah, and plenty of COSTUMED villains with gizmos and shit, but no supers that were actually evil. I think the implication is that the supers were all the creation of the NSA, and were likely recruited from military or law enforcement and had to meet rigorous psychological standards ensuring they'd stay on the right side of the law.

>>93067508
>Incredi-bile
See, I know you meant that as a mix of Incredible and Mobile, like Batmobile, but I can only see that as a mix of Incredible and Bile

best Incredibles lore threat in a while.

archive this shit.

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>>93071904
>that cartoon show where they whitewashed Frozone

>>93085005
Wait a minute
Frozone only got the beard after the timeskip.

>>93065746
I believe the writers confirmed at some point that Jack-jack has perfect matter manipulation, but can only affect himself.

>>93085005
>>93085542
The cartoon was made during the whole campaign for the anti-super law, in an attempt to reach the public. Frozone had grow his bard already, at that point.

Needles to say, the campaign didn't work realy well. Turns out little kids who watch cartoon don't vote.

>>93075704
Its possible the NSA knew they had the genetic potential to have a kid like Jack-jack, and made an exception because they needed someone as strong as him on hand for emergencies after Metaman died.

>>93065450
Dash clearly already has some mild speedforce or he would have caused a sonic boom when he put that tack on his teachers chair.

>>93070869
Not if he'd done his time already.

>>93064628
>>93064641

Fuck me why doesn't anyone make good special features for DVDs anymore? I remember spending hours combing through this back in the day.

>>93069193
You forgot adding a mullet.

>>93087545
Because streaming is the cancer killing physical media and the Home Entertainment department isn't as willing to give out a budget for more involved features like this as much as it used to.

>>93064620
>>93064628
>>93064641
Probably the one who's indestructible.

>>93072932
>Yes but that's the same in comics too. Mutants have mutant kids, FF have superpowered kids etc.

Super powered people have a higher chance of having super powered kids, but their powers would be hereditary mutant powers, even if their parents got them from being bitten by radioactive spiders or cosmic rays.

They also have a chance that they are stillborn or have no powers at all. There was one kid born from Mystique and Sabertooth who was normal human, I think.

So basically, it is random, since they have all the genes for being born normal, being born a mutant with parents powers, or being born as a mutant with an unrelated power.

That's how evolution works: if the kids born weaker die, then eventually their weak genes are purged from the populace.

>>93075548
Clearly he found his mermaid waifu and abandoned the surface world for her.

>>93079606
That picture is ironic because that's how Incredibles would work in the Marvel Universe.

>>93071817
>>93071936
>>93071681
>Expect Superman
>Get Superboy 2.0: Tactile Telekinesis only

>>93072301
This. She isn't super dangerous, but the +0.6 indicates that he fucked up extremely in the way he brought her to the Island.

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>>93087551
He already had one

I can't wait to see the amazing animation Pixar will be able to pair with I2 in 2019

>>93081961
Mr. Incredible fought like, what? 5? Before he finally realized what the point of the bots were

>>93088657
He fought and killed 1. He couldn't beat the second, and that's when Syndrome revealed himself.

>>93071952
Probably needs to be aware of the danger and not panicking. And him not being especially smart doesn't help.

>>93087613
He's not, he's near invulnerable. We even saw the robot managed to scratch him.

How strong was Frozonoe? He seemed pretty damn weak to me.

>>93090763
He froze a bullet mid-flight.
Any human without some kind of speed or heat power is gonna be instantly put out of commission if they go up against him.

>>93090763
Ice powers are never amazing against really super strong brick opponents or robots. They are durable enough to handle being cold and they are strong enough to break all the ice coming their way.

>>93070744
What if it was his boss? Could explain how he survived being thrown though several walls.

>>93092833
You've never broken dry wall before have you?

>>93068930
Who?

>>93079737
>Mr. Incredible snapping gooks like a toothpick
>Frozone being fucking useless in the heat and resorting to carrying around a rifle
>it ain't me starts playing

>>93082806
That was an analogy to Bob and Frozone going to a stripclub.

Dont read too much on it.

>>93093321
Frozone's powers work in humidity. He would be crazy strong in the jungle.

>>93093321
is not knowing the title of "Fortunate Son" its own shitty meme now

I really don't bother keeping track anymore

>>93092833
If his boss was a former villain and knew that Bob was Mr. Incredible, they wouldn't need to contact the NSA in the beginning of the movie to make a deal with the company so his boss & co. would keep quiet about Bob being a super

>>93095575
Yeah, you got it.

>>93069193
90s needs a beard.

>>93064641
*Litre of mayonnaise

>>93071681
Glass Cannon

>>93087545
Because special features used to be a hook for retailers to roll out DVDs that repeatedly bit them in the ass before they and the film companies realized only hardcore movie nerds give a shit about special features. Most people don't give a fuck, so outside of directors like Peter Jackson who really push for them or specialist film labels like Criterion they only pump out a quick featurette or two to save on the bottom line. Streaming doesn't help either.

>>93064628
>Able to communicate with aquatic mammals
wut

Fuck, I never knew about this NSA stuff and I've watched the movie like 10 times. I thought the government only got involved when they banned supers.

>>93069863
Thematically Jack-Jack has those powers because babies have infinite potential but in the logic of the universe he really does have a vast array of powers

>>93099131
Nah, just one.

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>>93091047
>>93090763
>tfw the original plan was to get Frozone to test the robot
>If Bob wasn't with him that night he may have been another victim of Syndrome's vendetta.

>>93098983
Seems to be either an amalgamation of the Justice League or meant to evoke how Superman used to randomly gain unrelated powers.

>>93099767
Why the hell didn't he NSA realize all their retired supers were vanishing without a trace? They only seemed to get involved when a super out themselves like Bob did on a regular basis, you would think superhumans forced into civilian life would warrant more surveillance.

>>93069193
punished incredible

I never really got how some supers killed the first omnidroid but then got killed by the upgraded version.

Why would they come back to the island again? It wouldn't seem believable at all for Mirage to call them up again saying they had the exact same problem and they need them to come back again.

>>93102406
I assume they were invited back like Mr.Incredible was

>>93099956
They probably knew. It would be safe to assume that if a retired super vanished, it would have probably been from hero work he or she wasn't supposed to be doing in the first place, which equals trouble for the agency. If they don't come back, the problem took care of itself.

>>93065116
>Universal man: 2.9

I don't buy it. The guy can control the density of materials, that's an OP as hell power. How did the weakest version of the omnidroid manage to beat him?

>>93103332
He's only human.
One of the things about the incredibles is that a lot of the heroes aren't extremely durable like mr and mrs incredible. A well-placed frag grenade could probably take out most of the supers if they were caught off-guard

>>93064667
>>93064717
he senses something's up a moment before the omnidroid gets him.

It's very short term, it only kicks in a second before the danger comes in.

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>teenage girl
>high school student
>volunteered at bird hatchery
>altruistic

>saves a jet airliner from crashing
>gets sucked into the engine and shredded to a paste

Incredibles lore can get really sad.

>>93103332
Refer to, for example, Meta Man in >>93064628
He could be even more OP than Bob with that array of powers, but his INT stat says he's too much of a dumbass to use them to their max. Universal man is probably the same shit: a hax power but too stupid to use it.

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>>93103982

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>>93103982
>>93104193
actually i found a full picture of that thread

>>93070744
Isn't the "present day" supposed to be 1970? I don't think there were PCs in 197o.

>>93104324
There weren't giant robots either. It's "Superhero 1970s".

>>93104324
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_personal_computers

>>93070744
That's one fucked up cubicle.

>>93103982
>>93075548
>>93064628
How many of these guys died to suit malfunctions? Seriously, is it really -that- big of an issue?

>>93105012
Capes and Wind Turbines don't go well together

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>>93069193
>>93087551
>>93096840
I tried redoing for myself, how's my attempt?

>>93106525
perfect!

>>93072842
>and the government had a 'no super child policy' (that Bob and Helen broke) I prevent more supers.
that wasn't in the final movie

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>>93106525
90s could use a big gun (or sword) and some veins and muscles poppin' out all over his body but that's neat already

>>93106525
Well done

Would it be fine if there was a webcomic or something about the Incredible's glory days or would Disney rain down hell fire?

>>93107013
Fanwork should only be C&D'd if you try to monetize it in some fashion, that or it's obscene enough to face other cause for take down.

>>93064628
>super strength
>no durability

So he has the strength to lift a car, but it would break his arms? He's useless.

>>93106808
>Current Chin
>60's Chin
>late 80's Chin
>early 80s Chin
>early 70s Chin
>late 70s Chin
>90s Chin
>2000s Chin
>Chin 2099

>>93106808
>>93107275
It goes

>Current Chin
>The 1930s Pulp Fiction Chin
>The 1940s WWII Sergeant Chin
>The 1950s Square-Jawed Commie Buster Chin
>The 1960s Pyschedelic Chin
>The 1970s Disco Chin
>The 1980s Overly-Muscular Weapon Toting Chin(who was super edgy and got cancelled for swearing)
>The 1990s Grunge Chin
>The New Millennium Chin

>>93107350
Oh yeah, it works perfectly in chronological order, I just didn't go back far enough.

>>93103982
>Weakness-Teenager

Every time

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>>93103332
Listen to the tapes from the DVD special features.

A lot of supers with theoretically broken powers are either too dumb to exploit their powers or too weak to actually use their powers in a broken way.

Take Downburst for example. His power is atomic manipulation--the ability to reshape matter.

Sounds broken on paper, but in practice, Downburst can only heal small wounds and still needed a ton of training to create a bicycle. Also got cucked by Frozone.

>>93104313
This was in a fucking kid's movie? That's incredibly dark (no pun intended).

>>93107550
It's all fair if you hide it in a .5 second shot.

If the superheros identity were supposed to be super secret and kept out of the public then why did Frozone have a wife who knew about his identity seeing as how she knew where his suit was when he needed it?

>>93107627
Do you think it's possible to hide being a superhero from your wife? If you do you are too young to be posting here.

>>93064866
"it's forehead ray disintegration man, by the time i've said that the villain's left" LMAO

these audio files are a gold mine thank you anon

>>93107645
Depends if you made a deal with the devil or not.

>>93107527
to be fair both the human body and a bicycle are incredibly complicated things to try and create or modify

>>93107711
Plus there's also the fact that downburst was retarded, they probably treated him a lot more special then already dimb heroes like Arnold Schwarzeneger.

>>93106525
>>93106682
90's needs a brown leather jacket or trenchcoat

>>93088894
Hence why he died?

>>93070869
>>93071538
>Bob and his former nemesis meet up on remote locations on occasions simply so they could beat the shit out of each other in a vain attempt at reliving their glory days.

>>93108128
Sleeveless jacket/vest would fit better and is more stereotypically "manly" looking. Likewise his arms and chest would be exposed except for bandoliers and bandages, and at least one of his limbs or eye would be cybernetic.

>>93065904
He couldn't teleport out of getting yoinked by his own cape.

I think he just sucks at teleporting. Either that or it's an overlook on the writers part for giving him that power and COD

>>93104193
>4chan screencap from tumblr
And people say /co/mblr isn't real.

>>93103332
If you need to use your power to not die, and you need to have it ON to not die, and you aren't trained/smart enough to use it well, you don't have a chance.

>Incredibles thread
>0 pictures of Helen's ass

The fuck

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>>93110708
Yeah, we should fix that.

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>>93110782

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>>93110846

>>93110708
>The fuck
We were having an actual Incredibles thread.

>>93067671
He was standing inside of a volcano, literal inches away from lava
I'd say he's pretty resilient all-around

>>93087632
Although when you take into account that superpowered people tend live much more high risk lifestyles than normal people it probably doesn't or wouldn't play out that way.

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So what does the ''Intelligence" stat mean anyways, especially for Elastigirl? Helen had a rather high rating but she was no Reed Richards when it came to smarts.

>>93112339
it means flexibility with their powerset

>>93112339
It's probably there to justify her knowing how to fly a plane

>>93107013
>>93107099
It depends on if it's trademarked or not
Disney HAS to go for trademarked property infringements, or it loses its trademark.

If something has that little (tm), the mouse is coming to molest you

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>>93112339
>Minimum thickness
What's her maximum?

>>93112339
Applied intelligence and training

It's great you know 4556 species of frog by heart, but that's less likely to be useful than say knowing how to disarm a bomb or pilot a plane.

Elastigirl is well trained and tactical with her skillset.

>>93112339
The movie showed that she's highly observant and deductive, noticing small details like a small patch job on Bob's old super suit.

>>93071681

He's the Rob Gronkowski of super heroes.

>>93112472
>>93112878
>>93113060

Think this ties in with how how her agility is, seeing that while she doesn't have super speed, she utilizes her body to be incredibly quick and stealthy as seen in this whole sequence.

https://youtu.be/pq8XbUdSZUs

>>93112869
Enough.

>>93112472
What does high endurance with low indestructibility mean?

>>93113326
You can run a long time but aren't bullet proof

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>>93113326
I'd say endurance is tied to stamina and how long she can keep going. With the energy required to use a rubber-like body and the mental fortitude to use it effectively, she would have to be able to keep going longer than some.

Indestructibility means how well she can not be destroyed by attacks, and while she can probably take blunt strikes, everything else will hurt her like any normal person.

>>93070362
There is a theory that the American government gave the supers their powers, and that's why there aren't villains with actual powers, just augmentations. Because the supers' genetics got altered it meant that they could pass powers on to their children. The powers they get is also, according to other theories based on this theory, random.The government changes their DNA and they get a power based on personality and body type and such. For example, Bob was a big guy, so strength makes sense. Naturally born supers, however, get powers based on their other genes.

>cars 3 is literally coming out this year
>they were announced at the same time
>incredibles 2 won't take place in the future with an older dash now acting like a peak Wally West
what do you want in the new movie /cp/

>>93114029
/co/*

>>93114029
>incredibles 2 won't take place in the future
Why would it? The "present" in the first movie was 60s or 70s.

>>93114029
>/cp/
Judging fom the Gwen/ben10 threads i wouldn't correct that.
Personally i wouldn't mind a supervillan or more supers, just to show off more powers.
I mean, the family is great and all, but when 3/4 characters are basically the fantastic four plus flash it gets a bit stale in some sense.
Maybe like one anon suggested, have the kids power evolve in someway, not necessarily in a more powerful sense.
Like, dash could develop the ability to slow down time instead of being fast, or some shit like that.

>>93087730

If the power ranking is based on how well they did against the robots, how did Meta Man even have a ranking?

>>93104313
Didn't she also waved hello to a child before getting sucked? I can't imagine how awful it must be to see a person getting sucked into a turbine.

>>93108688
>the old banter and evil monolouges are replaced with theraputic chit chat of their lives

>>93065330
but you can't read in dreams, you lying faggot

>>93116880
>Didn't she also waved hello to a child before getting sucked?

yeah, the passengers watched her get sucked into the engine.

and the plane probably crashed afterwards

>>93119400
Incredibles is pretty brutal for a movie pandered towards children

>>93107751
With all the superhero retards or with deep psychological issues you can only wonder if their powers were the reason behind this.

>>93120314
A good children movie should have background brutality.

>>93117400
>"And lemme tell you Incredible..."
>punch to the face
>"I swear to god my wife has spent more on jewelry this month than in food for the kids"
>kick to the chest
>"How's that? Didn't you hide your money in one of your super vaults"
>slapped across the room
>"I should have never married Lockpick Meg"
>"Ah, hell, I'd forgotten you married that one
>punched across the wall
>"How's your marriage anyway?"
>"A little drool. My wife doesn't really get me"
>flung in a circle by the leg
>"I'm just trying to do some good for the community, but she just keeps cutting me short. I kind of get it, bit still"
>"Sad to hear"
>neck grab and launched against the floor
>"How's your sex life by the way?"
>"The streching comes in handy"
>kick to the balls
>"And don't ever ask me that again"

>>93112339
She also knew how to apply her powers with creativity. Also, most supers are drooling retards; the standards weren't that high to begin with.

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>>93064620
Could Frozone beat Meta? What's his threat level?

>>93065116
Why are psycwave and universal man ratings so low.

>>93120835
I dig it.

>>93122247
Psywave probably because she works better in a team setting like Everser, her power may be weak on it's own but with teammates protecting her she's even better.

Have you listened to Universal Man? He's a prime example of stupid people with op powers. Say the gas women got his powers, she would instantly shoot up to being a top tier hero.

>>93120742
Anyway, is Incredibles the most mature movie Pixar has ever released? The death scenes, the adultery subplot, the corporate talk and insurance frauds...

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>>93122718
I say so but I have a huge boner for this movie. I actually consider this one of the strongest cape movies to have come out EVER! The tone, the world design, the characters, the plot, the music, everything works to create a world that for all intents and purposes is incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68ndaZSKa8
>This scene convinced me to abandon capes in my comic. Also convinced me that Edna has god tier taste and can design costumes for the best of them.

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Just how big of a badass was Mr. Incredible in his prime? The fact that he was able to defeat the Omnidroid (a learning robot that worked it's way through most of his friends) after being out of the game for years is a testament to his ability as a hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqfYk4BnhXY

>>93123431
I watched this movie 3 days ago; stop making me want to watch it again dammit!

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I've just realized the woman whose cat Mr Incredible saved is the same women he helps in the bank 15 years later.

>>93123796
I always thought they were just saving time and money by reusing assets.