Superman #24: Black Dawn

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Sorry, Young Justice fans.

I'm not complaining but why Gorillaz?

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>>93040046
My world's darker than the young black dream
Of the first black prince of a new white king

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Telepaths/Telekinetics are pricks.

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What about her leg though?

>>93040153
I love the purple eyes.

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I always liked his sister more

>>93040192
You say that all the time.

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>>93040190
It's the little things.

>>93040216
nice trick kylo

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>>93040212
Fair enough.

>>93040131
>What about her leg though?

>"How can they not see the truth?"
>"They're just seeing what someone else wanted them to... like us."

Tomasi isn't exactly being subtle about it.

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>>93040232
Here's a better one.

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Manchester, given how you can't even stop a couple of dudes with knives and a nail bomb, you'd have about as much luck beating dark side as a fart would against a blazing forest fire.

>>93040286
I have an honest question: didn't Manchester Black commit suicide because he realized that he was more of a villain than a hero at the end? Did he forget that?

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You got to give it to Jon. Even when up against a guy who knows their secret identity, he's professional enough to keep using codenames in case someone else comes into the room.

Meanwhile, Damian can't stop calling Batman "father." It's not neon lights spelling out BRUCE WAYNE in blinding capitals, but it's a clue.

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>>93040266
Don't worry, anon. One day, the liberal media will get theirs.

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>>93040311
Tut-tut. The British are beyond reproach. The real menaces here are the tweets made by the President of the United States of America!

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Manchester BLACK'd!

>>93040350
>The real menaces here are the tweets made by the President of the United States of America!
the only menace is dying brain cells from lack of covfefe

>>93040286
top kecks

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Welp, at least his shoes are nicer now.

Thanks for the storytime

>>93040311
was before new 52.

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Damian's either going to really enjoy this fight or really hate it.

That's all for this issue! See you next time for the Extra-Sized Super Son-Rise!

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Have concept art of a dropped Rebirth Manchester Black design drawn by Gleason himself!

>>93040368
It's all French to me!

>>93040388
Thanks for reading! And for the dubs.

>>93040311
Manchester Black is a lot like Mr Freeze. He's a cool villain with a neat hook but it's not the kind of thing you can really stretch out. His character had the perfect sendoff in Ending Battle so I'm not really sure why they brought him back.

>>93040175
That art change.

>>93040131
>What about her leg though?
I'm honestly very worried about this.
BTW thanks a lot for the storytime.

>>93040447
>I'm not really sure why they brought him back.
The idea of him trying to make Superboy into an 90s edge-lord type of hero is completely in character for Black, and since the main theme of this entire run has been Superman trying to impart his values to Jon, Black is pretty much the ideal villain for the story Tomasi's been telling.

So if they have to ret-con his death to bring him back, well, it's not like that's never happened before. The Universe has been reset twice since his death.

>>93040545
It is, yeah, but he already committed suicide over his own angst with Supes - feels kind of... stretched, from a story POV to have it here again.

>>93040216
lol he went straight for the lobotomy

>>93040545
It'd make more sense if Jon actually showed any inclination to the "dark side" or killing.

We already know he's too pure good to be swayed.

>>93040329
>yer gobblin me knob kid

>>93040494
I love both Gleason and Mahnke, but they do not mesh well together

>>93040329
Hey! She turned out good! Maybe there's still a chance for her to be with Jon!

>>93040674
jon is for damian buddy

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>>93040645
He has a fair degree of aggression in him. Best seen in the opening arc and through a bit of Black Dawn.

Also, Damian brings out the worst in him in Super Sons (also written by Gleason) not from trying to Darth Vader him but by simply being a jerk, so Jon's got an edge, but whether he manages to overcome or embrace it is still up in the air.

>>93040153
10/10 costume , I think they finally nailed the redesgin.

>>93040411
Probably hate it, despite being a jerk to him he has a soft spot for Jon and doesn't want to physically hurt him.

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>>93040674
>>93040688
Jon and Damian share their lays. It's not gay.

>>93040758
Do you mean share their clothes?

>>93040034
Who?

>>93040816
Miss Martian

>>93040840
Oh, I thought you were saying that those characters were Young Justice characters.

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>>93040729
I really wish these two would hang out more outside of Super Sons.

>>93040439
He looks balding instead of just shaved.

>>93040946
wew that picture
they're gonna have a TT issue/arc

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>>93041066
Still a Super Sons arc though.

>>93040727
I disagree. That page just emphasized how much Superman's costume is missing the red briefs

>>93041131
I bust a gut.

It's like that one One Punch Man comic where she's thrown in the trash where she belongs

>>93040840
I never read her as Miss Martian I just thought that she was a genetic green alien

>>93040930
>>93041293
He's referencing the fact that a lot of people HOPED Katie would turn out to be Miss Martian, (and that her grandfather would be Martian Manhunter), but this issue has finally confirmed once and for all that they're new characters.

>>93040115

Kathy and the farmer are not irredeemadly evil.

Kathy x Jon might still happen!

>>93040267
good boy

>>93040315
>>93040329
Maybe Lois and Clark will adopt Kathy?
>Jon, what have I told you about using x-ray vision on your sister?

>>93040315
There was also the time Damian gave Maps a Batarang in his Gotham Academy appearance.

Kid cant keep a secret to save his life.

>>93040366
Which fetish is this? Because whatever it is, I have it

>>93040286
I wonder if Manchester Black was messing with Jon's powers to begin with when Goldie got fried.

>>93040758
What do potato chips have to do with Kathy?

>>93040267
Krypto's a good boy.

>>93041672
>Jon-niichan

>>93040115
So the entire town is ayyliums Black rescued and brought to Earth.

>>93040216

This is my favorite panel, that was pretty bad ass.

>>93040034
>yet another vanilla love interest
>turns out to be a martian

what a fucking upgrade

>>93040315
very solid pencils from mahnke

>>93040411
>Superboy Black
Superboy Rose when?

>>93040239
ha.
the tree being on fire was not in the script. The artist drew that. I was wondering when coloring it... thought it was odd it was still burning.

I love that it was addressed in the final dialogue.
Its actually pretty common for script changes/dialogue change after the art is turned in.

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>>93040034

>It really is Miss Martian

>>93040645

Did you forget when he immediately wanted to kill Eradicator?

Jon is a child, and children are prone to using the easiest method of doing something.

>>93043749

Nah, just a different alien girl.

Still cute.

>>93040003
This cover art is good but weird. Seems like there's two different art styles going on at once. Manchester looks more detailed and realistic and then Jon looks more cartoon-ish like he does in Supersons.

>>93040411
BLACKED

>>93040003
Where the fuck is the other cover?

>>93040267
Doesn't krypto have powers too? Shouldn't Blacks hand have been crushed?

>>93044746
Tk field I guess, same reason why he didnt turn into goo the minute Clark punched him

>>93044746
He's taking Superman pounding on him fine too, he's obviously got a telekinetic field or something.

>>93040216
And there go my sides, up up and away

>>93041863
corruption/mind control with a side of symbiote suit stuff

>>93040350
>>93040366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65q6H3LC46U

>>93040216
>Going straight for the brain
Ah Superbro

>>93041242
Anon... You're gay.

>>93040131
The speech bubbles in panels 2 and 3 are KILLING ME. How are you supposed to flow from ending of the insert panel to higher up on the other side of the page to continue reading the same sentence? That's plain terrible.

>>93045118
Well it worked the first time.

>>93040366
I wanted to corrupt young John

>>93040003
Bumping

>>93040216
So there's a little Superbro still there after all. Haha fucking Black, what a glorious asshole.

>>93040267
Rip and tear Krypto!

>>93045588
it didn't work in final battle though, but this looks like a fresh manchester black, not the same one he faced the second time.

>>93040366
Just like Japanese cartoons

>>93040447
I'm really liking him here. Having Clark and Manchester fight over influencing Jon makes a lot of sense.

>>93041131
>this triggers the Damifag

>>93040411
Thanks for the dump.

>>93040350
>Bad guy in black?
>as always
>Batman wears black

Wow Clark

Mahnke is fucking garbage, why do people like him? Gleason is the superior artist for this book.

>>93040315
Wait, so is it me or Black knows about manhattan or the dark multiverse? HeS warning about a threat from outside the universe

Also, Tomasi's Black feels a lot more justifiable than Kelly's.

>>93047995
Nevermind I hadnt reached the part where he controls Jon.

>>93040216
Kek what a prick.

>>93043556
How do you know that?

>>93048434
He's obviously the colorer

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>>93041672

Clark and Lois adopt Kathy after her grandfather dies, and then she and Jon begin a hidden "alien-step-incestuous" relationship for several years, until he gets bored and finds a new love, which triggered a dangerous and exciting suicidal love triangle between them (and a lot of porn material).

>>93049026
I kind of just want Kathy to join the Teen Titans.

Kind of sick of having the same Teen Titans be around for the last 10+ years. Phase Raven/Starfire/Beastboy out and phase in Kathy, Jon, Damian and a few others.

>>93049297
I want Miss Martian and Static back on the Titans or in a new Young Justice.

>>93049509
Is Static even still extant

I loved his cartoon as a kid but after that it's like he vanished

>>93040267
Love that dog

>>93040267
Best dog.

>>93040062
I bet alien tech will reattach lois' leg

>>93048924
...DC people just hang out on 4chan?

>>93050694
This particular colorist does, yes. Hi-fi-anon's shared many anecdotes in the past. Working for hi-fi has its anonymous perks.

>>93043749
This continuity's Miss Martian at most

I guess thats the endgame for Kathy.

>>93043556

Who made the script change?

so is the meme of this being a good book finally dead?

>>93040286
So why is Jon calling Krypto "Goldie"? Is that his name now?

>>93051940
Goldie is the skeleton, he was Jon's cat that he accidentally killed with his powers iirc.

>>93051993
Oh yeah, I remember now, thanks anon

>>93040192
With his new design, he has a great degree of resemblance to Billy Butcher.

>still waiting for fanart of Superboy Black on twitter

>>93040717
He's like Dick (sweet boy with an edge when pushed), in certain ways. He is more outspoken, maybe: but he has been often written in a similar way. That's why it works so well with Damian, I think..

>>93040350
>Damien goes "TT" all the time
>Founded the Teen Titans

>>93051728
It's a good book, kys

>>93041672
> Kathy, what have I told you about putting thoughts of you naked in your brother's brain?

>>93043055
>>93040034
She looks NOTHING like a martian, if anything shes more like brainiacs species.

>>93054613
So Jon takes after Cousin Kara in tastes?

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE OTHER COVER?

>>93040131
You know what's great about the marriage of Lois and Clark? We get to see the vulnerable side of Clark. His uncertainty and doubt and then human Lois be the stronger one of the two. Lois picking Superman up when he stumbles.

>>93044390
Stole my comment

>>93049026
Fuck off pedos

Jon doesn't deserve this.

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>Jon's entire existence so far is being kidnapped, traumatized, or mentally tormented by various villains

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>>93055924

At least he got to be bad-touched by Poison Ivy.

>>93051728
It's is a good book, kill yourself shitposter

>>93040062
Nice art.

>>93040115
Love his "you disgust me" expression in the last panel.

>>93040216
This is a fucking beautiful page.

>>93040267
I haven't even opened this yet. Predicting it's going to be Krypto.

>>93040286
That's fucking creepy.

>>93043077
Yeah, the art in this issue is fucking NICE.

>>93040366
Well that's fucking creepy.

>>93040384
This is just a really nice looking page.

>>93040384
Really ominous page.

FUCKING GORGEOUS art in this issue.

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>>93040216
>Uses the heat Vision to light his fucking cigarette

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>>93040411
the memes just won't stop!

>>93041937
They like to eat them off of her tummy.

>>93040501
One of Manchester Black's illusions to break down Superboy. I think her leg is fine.

>>93040411
Think we end up with a damian as crazy and anti-jon as bruce was towards clark in BvS after this?

>>93040216
This is the page of the week and nothing even comes remotely close.

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>>93054672
Gotcha

>>93049026
>>93053682
>>93054637
>>93041672

What happens when Kathy meets girl Amazo?

Who is Jon's endgame?

>>93040216
>Tries to teach Jon not to kill
>Goes straight for the brain as soon as he encounters Black

Come on, Clark.

>>93060571
Kathy, Girl Amazo join the Teen Titans and we get a 3 way love triangle ala Morrison's X-men run.

>>93060571
Jon is pimp enough to handle them both.

>>93060620
A lobotomized person is still technically alive.

>>93060695
>>93060897

Alright. Lightning round.

Who does he share his first kiss with?

Who does he take to his high school dance?

Who does he lose his virginity to?

Who does he marry?

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>>93062475
>Who does he share his first kiss with?
Kathy
>Who does he take to his high school dance?
Damian
>Who does he lose his virginity to?
Damian
>Who does he marry?
Damian

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>>93043460
Kek

>>93063111

Damian will be AT LEAST a head and half shorter by the time Jon is a junior or senior in high school. He'll know it wouldn't work out by Junior High, easily.

>>93040267
based krypto

>>93049297
Dream New Titans line up
>Robin(Damian)
>Superboy(Jon)
>Red Arrow(Emiko)
>Static
>Blue Beetle
>Kathy and/or Maya
>Supergirl

>>93064731
Put Supergirl on a YJ team since Conner isn't coming back any time soon.

>>93064731
Having actual teens on the Teen Titans should be the priority. Even having pre-teens and them aging into teenagers is fine too. None of these constantly rolling back the ages of characters.

>>93064731
Poor Aqualad.
And Supergirl is a bit redundant.

Damian is going to either get retconed or die, dumbasses.

>>93065168
I highly doubt it. It's the current Robin, is still a kid, has a history of about 10 years now and has a telling apart personality.

I highly doubt they're going to drop any former or current Robin, even. Tim is going to come back in the final stage of Rebirth and is going to motivate some quest for Batman in the process, once King is done with the war's flashback story arc.

>>93040034
Thanks, writer, now I will have that Prince song stuck in my head all day.

>>93065168
His original creator had killed him at the end of his run. They could just have left him dead there, but brought him back. He isn't dying anytime soon, and the longer he's around the more unlikely getting rid of him permanently is.

>>93064930
teeny titans?

>>93058708
Damian will go full on on protective. Probably why he introduces jon to the TT.

>>93064982
We can see them do cute family things from time to time.

>>93060218
thanks

>>93065168
You don't actually believe this, do you?

>>93063111

Damian will grow up with a crush on Jon, but Jon will be a straight boy who doesn't notice. He just thinks he's broing it up.

anyone got the issue before it and could storytime? last i saw was when damian and jon get attacked at the end and cathy reveals she's psychic

>>93065168
No he fucking won't.

>>93064982
Not gonna lie I tossed Supergirl in that list so it wouldn't have been a sausage fest cause I can't think of many new teen girls that have been made.

>>93040153

They have windows you can climb out of in a hospital? Im pretty sure there are regulations about that to prevent suicides and escapes.

>>93074096

I don't know where you are living but our hospitals are not prisons.

>>93070261
Jon gets abducted by Manchester and forced to watch a TV screen. Lois gets her leg blown off, maybe. Clark gets pushed by the townspeople to kill monsters invading the town

>>93070228
Nah. Damian's gonna get cucked by every girl he ever likes because they immediately flock to Jon while sisterzoning him.
The only one who won't is Supergirl and that's because she outright hates him.

>>93040623

Wasnt it more of a concussion?

Although after this is all over its likely a REAL lobotomy will happen

>>93044771
>>93044773

Maybe he's not even there, actually and hr is all a mental construct