:(

>>93013178
The proof of batman's incompetence is Jason Todd. That's why Bats hates him.

>>93013395
It wasn't entirely Bruce's fault, though.

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Why'd they make Jason so hot in this movie?

He deserved it.

>>93013651
>t. Joker

>>93013178
It probably was the best take on the beating and bomb scene across all the different versions until now. Better even than the original. You can tell by looking at Jason face how in a few seconds he goes throught fear, despeir, resignation, indiference, sarcasm and finally anger. It was well animated and done.

>>93013178
Under the Red Hood was such a great movie.

THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!

One of the worst "I DON'T KILL HIM CAUSE" reasons ever given. They need to just stop trying to make up reasons Batman wont do it.

I couldn't stop laughing at how hard this shit movie tried to be sad and dramatic.
It's a bad soap opera tier.
>inb4 hurr durr contrarian
If you think Judd Winick is a good writer, it's you who's a contrarian.

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>>93013178
I was rewatching the movie a while ago. I think Jason is becoming one of my favorite members of the bat family.

>I'm doing it because...he took me away from you.
=(

>>93013651
>t. Californian Lawyer

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>>93014571

>>93014663
Reading older stuff is making Jason my favorite Robin. I can connect with him better than the others. I can never admit this though because I've had a rivalry going for a decade and a half with my actual buddy Jason. My name is Dick. It's funny because he's more like Dick, too but we need to support our respective Robins.

>>93013937
Delet this!

>>93013178
Is Jason, why are you sad about?

>>93014937
But that'd be a great twist. You support each others Robin. Perfect friendship. Or gay.

>>93013569
Cringey caption but holy shit would not expect that to be in TT:Go

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>>93013638
I think I know where this thread should be going.

>>93016045
TTG loves making references to dark comic shit. Like when they prank called their future selves but Beast Boy had already died by then.

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>>93013178
>mfw he saw the bomb and just accepted his fate

>>93014663
Who has the best costume here?

>>93013569
Does that means TTG's Robin is Tim?

>>93016623
Dick's costume

>>93013522

>Recruit child soldier
>Pit them against homicidal maniacs
>Child soldier dies
>'Lol, not my responsibility'

>>93017120
Jason was the one who went after Joker himself.

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>>93016599
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>93016662
Don't they call him Dick in the original TT?

>>93013178
Why wasn't he wearing any shoes during that scene?

>>93017120
Child soldiers in cartoons is hardly unique, especially in comics and stuff involving superheroes. They make kid heroes to appeal to kid audience that eat this stuff up.

The problem is edgy authors who kill kids off for muh trauma.

>>93013963
In Injustice they imply he may be in love with him in a twisted way. I think that would be a better, far more interesting, reason.

A little edgy, but interesting.

>>93018908
not directly but he has the circus origin

>>93013963
They should at least just accept the fact that it has less to do with any objective standard of morality and much more to do with Batman's own psychoses and fixations. Play it up less as a point of honour and more as a flaw of character and I think his no kill rule would be far less grating..

>>93013569
>fb.com
>tumblr filename
>TTGo
Kill yourself.

>>93018998
I fucking hate that reason. It's so fucking retarded and contradictory to Batman's whole character.
I want Batman to fucking HATE Joker, not fuck him. The Joker having homolust is kinda dumb but i can live with it.

>>93016662
It's Dick. There is an episode with multiple Robins, and I think Tim was the chipper and psrky Robin

>>93019464
No Tim was the edgy one, I think the happy Robin was either Jason or another version of Dick

>>93019385
why not have the batman hatefuck him?

>>93019007
That and his Robin mite's name is Dick Grayson spelled backwards

>>93019708
>No Tim was the edgy one,
>implying that wasn't Damian

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>>93013963
You're right. Batman must rape the Joker instead.

>>93020030
Let this meme die pls

>new villain "the Mememaster"

>>93018917
feet are cute

>>93016623
Tim

>>93013178
he deserved it
Jason todd is shit

>>93013963
The most logically consistent character reason for batman is that he's afraid of death.

However, in-universe it makes the most sense for a superhero to generally not kill criminals, and when they do it should only be done in self defense or to something like Darkseid or Doomsday, where a human prison shouldn't realistically hold them. Otherwise you have masked paralegal entities acting as judge, jury and executioner, many of whom are not really answerable to the law. That's a good way to wreck a society.

>>93018934
You know they didn't kill Todd.
Readers voted.

>>93022834
I think one guy cheated the system, actually.

>>93023290
Jason was that eras Damian so it makes sense

>>93022834
This. Also killing off a character is not "edgy" it's what actually happens in stories that involve people fighting to the death that don't have to stick to forced status quo.

>>93023925
He was considerably easier to read than Damian. It wasn't his time, tho. Half the people at the time were not in the mood for him.

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I'm kind of curious...would Jason be more "liked" if he had stayed dead?
Or what if he hadn't been killed off in the first place?

>>93026339
Who knows. I doubt he would be remembered at this point, had he stayed dead. But I don't know if he would've got this liked and popular had he stayed alive. I can see him passing the 90's badly, to be honest: he could've been to edgy in the end, after being written by the writers at the time, who would have empathize his rebel and non soft behaviour to the max. Funny enough, when he come back, he has crossed that river and, because it was justified and surprisingly well dealt, he has become a character that is popular and also can stand by its own (yes, I'm saying he probably wouldn't have been that lucky in the 90's).

his injustice 2 gameplay looks fun, can't wait to see what banter Netherrealm gives him with other characters.

>>93026833
I didn't dig the voice.

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>>93013569
>They kept the crowbar

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>>93027394

>>93013178
I like how he just goes ":|" like he accepts his imminent death so easily

>>93027664
He has a bit of rage in his eyes.
I honestly liked how well drawn and animated the whole scene was, when I wasn't expecting much.

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>>93013178
Probably my favorite scene in the entire movie.

>>93022834
Not the readers.

One Autists with money to waste did.

>5 dollars a vote

>tf his memorial plaque says 'Good Soldier'
What did Bruce mean by this

>>93027737
Yeah, but that plain acceptance at the last second, his mouth goes tight and eyes half lidded with "Well that's that then"

>>93027751
Official cause of death was asphyxiation
Survived the crowbar, the explosion, and the building coming down on him.

>>93028009
>he survived and was only buried in some inches of dirt, but did not have the strength to dig himself out
>slowly suffocates while buried alive only a few inches from the surface.

>>93028009
Descended from Rasputin, maybe?

>>93013178
Zuko's scar really healed up good.

>>93014663

can we fucking get a bat-family movie? like a fucking ocean's eleven type thing where they have to break out the bat?

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>>93028071

>>93014663
Despite hating him, I think Tim has the best costumes. His red and black Robin costume will always be my favorite Robin getup and I like how they gave that very same costume to Jason in the movie. I gotta say it fits more on Jason than on Tim.

>>93028359
Tim does go through several good costumes. Too bad he got shat up over the years.

>>93013638
Because DC is allergic to making him look the actual child he was when he was killed for a publicity stunt :)

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>>93027920
I think him being just "oh well gg my life" is always pretty consistent even now in the comic.

>>93028542
Him being utterly inured to death is the best way to play it desu it would get super maudlin if he was all like "death is scary boo hoo ;_;"

It also probably makes it really easy to shoot people if you just don't give a shit. You could even play it up as a juxtaposition between him and the Bat if you wanted to get all pretentious about it

>>93028678
I'm more surprised that he doesn't goes "I can't die like this..!" or something like that. He's just too accepting.

>>93028731
If we roll the clock back, his life has been a depressing, smoldering shitheap just about all the way back.

Depression, anger, and all that (which Jason is full of) gets exhausting after years and turns into a sort of apathetic acceptance regarding The End. And Jason gets the benefit of having already literally died and gone through it, on top of the usual Batfam "nearly died dozens of times" shit.

>>93028135
Bad Blood the animated film was like that.

>>93028071
>and Bruce still didn't make it in time

>>93028731
Yeah, I can see that too. The character has suffered from some really terrible and inconsistent writing, so a lot of times he doesn't have a well defined personality outside of "edgy and snarky"

>>93028878
God, he could be such an interesting character if they'd just give him to a good fucking writer

>>93028900
I think it's more what this anon >>93028878 said, he really doesn't care about the whole dying thing, be it him or others ( maybe only Alfred )

>>93028009
He's a little persistent shit. It's almost in character that he came back, now that I think about it. I wonder if we kill him again, would the universe fold itself with another deus ex machina to put him back to life? I just wonder.

>>93028071
To be fair, apparently, he was very damaged from all the beating, the explosion and the building falling over.

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If you don't rape this psychotic piece of filth, I will! If you want to stop me, you're gonna have to rape me right in my ass. I am gonna tear his deranged anus in half! It's him, or me - you have decide! Him or me! Decide!

>>93029674
>Batman walks away
>Jason fires a blast from his dick
>Batman dodges it and tosses a Batarang into Jason's urethra causing the dick to backfire
Are there any lengths Batman won't go to avoid raping that Joker?

>>93016662
It's Dick

There was an episode where I think, Cyborg travels to the future, and Robin is now Nightwing

>>93016242

>he is wearing he robin shorts under his pants

Ayy, lmao.

>>93029096
>editors finally get sick of him and he's unceremoniously killed off in a nightwing book or something
>right before the next big crisis event
>cosmic shit happens
>oh fuck it's hypercrisis
>jason todd literally reaches through the panel shoots the California lawyer in the face and demands DC write him back in
>mfw total reset
>mfw death in the family gets rewritten so jason saves the day and the joker gets turned into chunky salsa by his own bomb

>>93029876
>mfw death in the family gets rewritten so jason saves the day and the joker gets turned into chunky salsa by his own bomb

The ironic part being Batman coming in time to save the Joker

>>93029674
Why didn't Batman just let Jason shoot the Joker and then take Jason in for murder? That seems like it would have been in character for him.

>>93030084
the sheer hysteric militancy with which certain fans will defend Batman's actions makes Jason's head explode and he dies again

>>93013178
>let's rewrite the way he died otherwise everyone would just know that Jason Todd is a retard

Nice movie outside of that

>>93030263
Not really, allowing him to kill the Joker is pretty much the same thing as killing him himself.

>>93030263
Because Jason was like a son to him. If you ever have a son you'll know why.

>>93028983
Let's be honest. You could say that about Dick, Tim, or Jason. Dick had a long rut that he's only recently come out of. Tim never recovered from his decline, and was run into the dirt worse than any of the others. Jason's been wildly inconsistent, with peaks and valleys every time you turn your head.

>>93030588
dubs confirm

:(

>>93030458
?? Didn't Bruce batarang his throat to save the Joker? And then left him under the rubble of the collapsed building.
Kinda ironic

>>93030458
If I was confronted with my son's murderer, I probably would take the shot myself.

>>93030644
No, he bataranged the gun so it would backfire, grabbed Jason, and hook shotted out of the building with him as it exploded

>>93030945

He is talking about the comic, in which Jason was meant to be a full villain, and gets his jugular cut by a batarang.

>>93030972
even Winnick said that turned out bad and that's why they changed it

Do you think they'll do a story where Jason is critically injured and they put him in the Lazarus Pit again, only for him to come out insane for a time?

>>93031026
That would be rehashing though

>>93031026
It's an easy way to swing him villainous for a little while if they want to, with a predetermined out.

>>93031056
Happens anyway, really.

>>93031072
You might not even have to put him back in the pit. Have him suffering some kind of delayed residual effects, or shit, he's fucked up enough that if you wrote it well enough, you could have his mental state deteriorate to the point where he was acting outright villainous again and have it be believable.

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>>93026518
Hm, interesting. I definitely agree that the '90s would have ruined Jason's character.
The edginess probably would have been off the charts.
Also, thank you for answering my questions seriously, I wasn't expecting anyone to actually do that

>>93019708
>>93019464
>>93020013
I don't think they were supposed to be anyone specific so much as they were just a bunch of different Robin designs throughout the years.

>>93031400
They admitted that they put less thought into which Robin it was than the viewers, though it ultimately rounds out to being Dick with pieces of Tim and Jason.

>>93019018
That's exactly what they did. Jason said "I'm not talking about Penguin, or the Riddler, or Dent! Just. Him." Batman's response was that he knew that he personally wouldn't be able to go back if he did start killing. Not wanting to become a mass murderer because you know you will is a pretty good reason to not kill someone.

>>93018998

i've read all of injustice multiple times you are an idiot

Has there ever been a Batman comic where Robin pushed him enough that he became a murderer?

>>93031248
You're welcome, anon. Thank you back for asking I enjoy discussing anything, really.

>>93031688
Not that I know of, and I'm honesty surprised. It would make a nice elseworld story

>>93031938
Dang, I was hoping there was one. I think it would be pretty interesting to read, given the right writer.

>>93014663
>When Winick had Jason beat the fuck out of Tim he gave him those godawful leggings
Sometimes things should just be left alone.

>>93029854
Starfire. Cyborg was who she met first.

>>93033643
>leggings
Panties. A buff man in panties

>>93033643
Wasn't that Geoff Johns?

>>93031938
I think it would make the most sense in an elseworld where Jason lived. Then Bruce would have felt all the same rage at Joker, but none of the the guilt/sorrow of Jason actually being dead.

I kinda hate how his death and all retcons pretty much erased how Bruce was an actual good father figure for Jason

>>93022112
>The most logically consistent character reason for batman is that he's afraid of death.

Yes. Death affected Batman deeply, that's why he never wants to cross that line.

>>93028432
Red Robin Tim is best Tim and True Tim to me

>>93013178
Prince Zuko?

>Name a live action Batman movie where Batman doesn't kill anyone (or deliberately leave them to die)

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>>93016599
He believed Batman would kill Joker after that that...

https://youtu.be/VRiX5Mh2YCo

>"...im not talking bout Penguin...
>...Scarecrow...
>...or Dent."

Or Dent; I choke up every time he says that.

>>93034491
And that's the worst part. Bruce wanted to do it. He's been wanting to kill Joker for YEARS. But he can't. Because he knows that there'd be no coming back from it. And that's the why he can't.

>>93034096
I'm pretty sure they were canary yellow leggings.
>>93034103
Was it? I know he broke a few Titan statues, which makes his whining about not being "honored" dumb since he never really cared about joining the Titans and was only helping them during that one story.

>>93034491
>friends he crippled
Ouch, at least someone gave a shit about Barbara there.

>>93035140
He's a coward.

>>93035140
he was going to kill him in Death in the family but obviously the Joker "got away"
it's the same old story of not killing Joker for obvious reasons and writers having to come with "explanations" to why he doesn't do it

>>93016662
No. He became Nightwing in the April Fools episode

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>>93036081
He's far worse than that.

Due to his nature and planning it's his arrogance that trips him up and others find a way to get those plans and hurt some the most powerful people he says he's in league with.

So many chances of another meta human going rouge and the only thing he says about if he's turn " The Justice League is my counter"

Fuck you Bruce; Joker is right about you in the Beyond movie.

You've privatized the safety of Gotham and pushed your authority far past its borders because you know in some way Gotham would be destroyed by collateral damage.

Your dad would shake his head to you knowing how far you took it.

>would Batman out Gotham in a bottle?

>>93035140
Come back from what? Is he that fragile that his entire persona is compromised by taking the life of a murderous psychopath? How is he a hero if he's not willing to take that risk?

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>>93013178

>>93013963
Really? My only problem is when Batman gets super autistic over ANYONE killing a villain. Him personally not wanting to kill because he feels like once he crosses that line he'll never be able to stop himself from doing it again since Batman is kind of fucked up psychologically.

>>93036911
it's the same problem with "guns", I don't know why some writers want to push him going autistic about other people using them or him not using them at all
it's like they want to add more issues where they aren't needed

>>93036911
I can understand when its someone he's close to doing it or if he's working with someone on a case. There was recently an issue in All Star Batman I think it was where he was working with swamp thing and he murdered someone. That's understandable for him to get pissed. They were working as partners for a while.

>>93013178
I love this movie, but part of me wishes it had been a two-parter like TDKR. Could put in more good stuff from the original, like Jason's mom and Bats straight up trying to kill The Joker. I'd have liked something like him trying to recruit Onyx and the kyptonite plot too.

>>93017120
Okay, you didn't read the story.

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>>93031688
there is one where his death caused him to be a murder. not the same thing tho

>>93013638
Jensen Ackle's voice, bruh.

Hell, OP's picture is a face I could easily see Dean making. Delicious, delicious suffering hotties

>>93037686
Does Jason express love and gratitude towards this Batsy or does he sit there like a deer starting at a car's headlights?

>>93035730
It's Jason. He cares, even if he doesn't say.
The guy is still suspected of throwing a rapist out of some window, or something, in his original Robin time.

>>93034491
I don't remember the animation being so choppy.

>>93036964
It was King's Batman. Probably his best issue so far. It was just after the button ended, so it was the last issue.

>>93018998
they dont imply it, Superman says it cause its the injusticeverse where everything is retarded

>>93038456
Here's a better video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kscfb9XzPs

>>93038484
Right, my bad for forgetting, I'm reading so many comics right now my mind is a little lost.

>>93038501
I know, anon. Me too. I can remember it because I really liked that issue a lot.

>>93038571
Yeah, it was great. so far rebirth for the batfamily as a whole minus Batgirl has been consecutively fun to read.

>>93037686
Sauce?

are you winking? I can't tell

>>93017880

Didn't say otherwise. Batman still pulled Jason into a life of underage crime fighting.

>>93042160
as opposed to a life of being a criminal in Gotham, he would have ended up dead anyway

>b-b-ut Flashpoint
Johns garbage

>>93037734
Supernatural needs to fucking die so Jensen Ackles can do roles that aren't garbage

His performance in the movie was surprisingly good and believable for an actor who'd done so little voice work; he ought to be freed up to do more

>>93027772
i want to know how that autist feel when Jason back to life or introduce Tim

>>93037904
I think they make the world implode because Batman kills

>>93013178
what cartoon is that?

>>93044417
Batman: Under the Red Hood

>>93016599
It was more like:
>Sees Bomb
>Becomes completely indifferent and accepts death with dignity

>>93036439
Indeed, but DC accepts only extremes. You either kill or do not. There is no middle ground. Batman could've at least lobotomized Joker.

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>>93044861
Or raped him.

>>93044861
to be honest in a world with super healing, magic etc. there's no chance Joker would stay dead

jason died and got back, he should know that

>>93045104
>there's no chance Joker would stay dead
We know that, because he's popular. Batman doesn't. Jason came back from the dead as an exception to the rule from his point of view.

>>93045049
I'm starting to think that if this will go much longer, then raping the Joker will be the only valid option.

>>93045104
Popularity + Joker Immunity.

Betting that if somebody would actually kill him, he'd come back as a clown revenant and terrorize the living no matter how many times he'd die.

>>93045961
that's why I kinda liked the explanation Snyder gave to why Batman doesn't kill the joker, that he is scared that if he did he would come back worse than ever before which is an actual possibility in comics

works better than the "I would not be able to stop myself" one