Good evening owls, Cliffhanger resolving

>>93007405
Even Doop is afraid!

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>>93007405

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>>93007457
I think we have a Doop issue coming up sooner or later

>>93007405
Hello Storyteller.

First Dr. Poison, now everyone on /co/ is drooling over Steve Trevor. Feel free to express your abject shock.

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>>93007519
F

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>>93007535
Liam Sharp's Steve is grody

This is Milligan brutalizing what the Jimi Hendrix and Bob Marley estates have been amazing at

>>93007535
>First Dr. Poison, now everyone on /co/ is drooling over Steve Trevor. Feel free to express your abject shock.
I'm glad people appreciate that Steve is best boy now

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>>93007607
>semiotics class

>>93007519
>>93007552
Every death scene and subsequent monologue(s) in this is perfect.

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>>93007675
they are!

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>>93007724

>>93007607
>>93007627
After this, expect to see Steve a lot in the main book. They might even bring back ARGUS just so he has something to do to justify him being there besides synergy.

>>93007552
>He was white but he wanted to be black
>and that's what made him blue
pottery

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>>93007764
I saw someone incredibly butthurt that Steve Trevor got a one-shot with a (horrors) ALL-MALE team

oh my god I'm dying here

>>93007808
Again, the outfits are just perfect.

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>>93007808
THIS IS AMAZING

>>93007808
>I saw someone incredibly butthurt that Steve Trevor got a one-shot with a (horrors) ALL-MALE team
in 2017??? the nerve!

that's... quite the funeral outfit, Venus

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>>93007868

>>93007868
>trying to claim him
Y'all are fucking stupid. He was gay AND fat.

Shit, I know this is directly satirizing something, but I can't for the life of me remember what.

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>>93007909

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>>93007970
>>93007956
intersectionality.jpg

>>93007519
FUUUUUCK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OP is an extra faggot for ruining my night with this shit.

>>93007405
Hey OP.
Waifu Academy's new event is the most bullshit I've encountered since I started playing. I'm glad it will be my last.

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>>93008006
Are you mad at X-Statix, or specifically Doop, or do you just hate yourself :(

>>93007552
Wew that third panel

>maybe she'll give US drive peace now!
Haha, not likely!

>>93007457
That's not fear, it's ecstasy.

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>>93008053
>>93008040
it's total bullshit

Rant incoming bros. So recently I've been on a Marvel high and read 3 Fantastic Four runs (Waid, Millar, Hackman). Hackman was easily the best, followed by Millar. Why do people keep saying Waid's run is very good? I know Ringo's art is lovely and all but holy shit the most remarkable thing about Waid's run is just how unremarkable it actually is. He took character archetypes too literally (Susan is supposed to kind of metaphorical mom holding the team together so she literally acts like mom, Johnny is supposed to be bit immature so he is literally a manchild, Ben is supposed to be a short tempered brute so that's like the only emotion he has ever in this run). Don't get me wrong, there's some good stuff like the Galactus arc or the issue where FF meet Kirby but on the whole it's just so meh. I really don't think Waid as a writer does it for me, I felt the same way about his JLA run which people kept saying is the second best modern JL run. Fuck you, Kelly was the second best and Johns even with all his problems had his own unique style to it and on the whole was far more entertaining. I feel like Waid has always been some really hit or miss writer and people always praise him to be the some god tier writer because of his good stuff but I really think he isn't that good, never has been. /rant

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>>93008088
F

>>93007607
You mean they aren't all living out in Tupac's compound?

>>93008040
>Waifu Academy's new event is the most bullshit I've encountered since I started playing. I'm glad it will be my last.
Wat is this?

>>93007724
Is this before or after The Ring came out? I think it was after.

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>>93008108
A lot of it really is the sheer charm and personality of the Ringo art, IMO. It was also a major recuperation after how far afield Claremont went.

>>93007755
Man, the Lettering in this series is a bit weak, isn't it?

That's the second block of text with no bubble or box, and it's just completely eaten by the background.

>>93008108
I feel similarly about Waid, I don't think I've ever read anything GREAT by him but he is fairly solid with some dips into good/bad territory occasionally kind of like Jurgens

I think my favorite Waid thing is the Flash/GL mini

>>93008108
I don't really like Waid either. He always feels like he writes the worse clone of a good run/good idea.

>>93008124
F

For some reason I thought he lasted longer than this.

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>>93008177
It's after, it's Milligan making the superior joke

>>93007808
>Not just covering him in a random tarp.

God, doesn't Milligan know anything? Superheroic Gigantism rewards you in death with a burial tarp bought from Walmart's camping section, the way Millar intended!

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>>93008245

>>93008245
It's stressing me out how they keep saying Europa.

>>93008053
I'm mad because Phat was my favorite.

>>93008003
I've never seen a speech bubble get screwed up so hard.

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>>93008281
Imagining this in its original UK context is fukken wild

>>93008003
And there's another busted textbox. Only this one looks half there?

Is this a digital transfer issue?
Would Allred not be submitting his art digitally by this point?

>>93008177
>>93008053
Well, I'm embarrassed now.

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>>93008319

>>93008253
And they wrapped him up in chains! How fucking tone deaf do you have to be?

>"We couldn't shrink him down."
>Hank Pym standing right over there
... For fucks sake, was there anything about Civil War that wasn't piss ripping stupid?

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>>93008346
>>93008387
The part where Frank kills the random Z-list villains is comedy gold

>>93008124
Congratulations El Guapo, you never did anything memorable.

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>>93008403

>>93008403
Every single hero but Cap is just chill/cynical enough to not give a shit about it too.

>>93008088
>>93008124
Brutal. He deserved better.

>>93008435
The teeth. The CD eyes. I wanna see THIS as a superhero movie.

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>>93008446
I keep thinking that between CW, Ults, and Authority, there's a certain streak of Millar-style satire in Seekrit Empire

>>93008175
Avengers Academy mobile game.
I personally started playing because John Cena plays the Hulk in it, and the novelty of that idea amused me greatly. He's a pretty good Hulk voice too! Hulk Hustle, Loyalty, Respect.
You can't see Hulk!

Current event is a total load where you need to spend 8 hours farming for materials to farm for OTHER materials that you need to grind out combat levels for.

I think it's a naked attempt to force people to spend 12 bucks to buy Bucky, and fuck that.

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>>93008508
(and Millar is clearly enjoying both SE and the particular kinds of moral scold fan outrage it's generating)

>>93008528
that bullshit kid Bucky makes me so mad even seeing his fucking face

>>93008319
So, would this be Liz then? Archlich Phillip? Chuckles the Jugheaded Boy?

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>>93008545

>>93008180
Ringo's art is really fucking great and charming. God bless his rested soul.
>>93008211
I think all the "ground Superman and make him relatable narratives" that have started since Byrne, Birthright was the best. But yeah other than that, I've never read great comic book by him.
>>93008212
Seriously, his JLA was trying hard to be Morrison trype wacky/serious Silver Age renaissance era book but he had neither the imagination of Morrison, nor the charm. In same way his FF felt like it was trying to capture that Wally West magic with family values and characters growing up and all but it just felt so flat.

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>>93008574
If anything, in 2005 it'd be Tony Blair, which would be a fucking *riot*

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>>93008624

>>93008589
>How refreshingly liberal is this

>>93008528
>implying Bucky is an incentive
Marvel, pls. You have made this character such a hate sink, that it's almost impressive.

Am I alone in having no interest in reading any current Marvel stuff right now? No company wars bullshit, it's just that nothing looks appealing to me.

Especially the Captain Marvel stuff. In their attempts to push her as some kind of symbol of goodness and hope, they've taken away everything that actually defines her as a character. Let her be an asshole. She has legit entertainment value that way.

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>>93008646
I miss this crazy Professor X

>>93008684
I'm still reading Nova, but after that's done I don't have any Marvel pulls

I don't think Legacy will change that.

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>>93008707

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>>93008735
I'm interested to see what Max Bemis is contracted for with Marvel

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>>93008765
holy shit, this is also amazing

>>93008765
>Mr Milligan, there appear to be no brakes on your script

>>93008684
>Am I alone in having no interest in reading any current Marvel stuff right now?

No, I'm right with you, brother. I think the only books that they have coming out right now that I'm genuinely into are Nova (which is cancelled) and Iron Fist (which I'm sure ends up a stealth mini)

USAvengers started fun, but got dragged into the Crossover Zone of Oh Fuck Right Off.

>>93008545
Wearing a goddamn straight up Scout unifrom. Fucking hell.

I used to be against the idea of Sebastian Stan taking over the movie Captain America role because Bucky was essentially a blank slate. Bucky shilling now makes me against it because Bucky period.

>>93008508
>Millar-style satire in Seekrit Empire
Kek no, you're definitely looking for stuff to praise where there isn't any. The biggest fault of SE is that it's taken as seriously and as straight, it could've been the a great satire all around but Spencer takes himself a bit too seriously for that. All the edge and bullshit are supposed to be taken seriously there so Nick can comment on how serious this stuff can get as opposed to how stupid it actually is. Reality right now is stupid dangerous as opposed to seriously dangerous that Spencer is portraying.

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>>93008831
Right? Pre-Thunderbolts I was "god Stucky fandom is annoying but there must be something worth following there" and now I am "I hope they get trolled at every turn"

>>93008765
>>93008791
This is not COMIC BOOKS. I don't what the hell this is, but it certainly has my attention.

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>>93008857
I'm wavering on how successful it is, but the panel with Cap mentioning Twitter made me lol

>>93008765
As much as I could see a celebrity('s people) pulling this kind of stunt, I can't think of anyone with the level of broad mainstream appeal that could actually pull it off, even in the middle of last decade.

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>>93008927
He's making the mutant metaphor/cure stuff have an actual edge, for once

>>93007519
RIP in peace Billy Bob

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>>93008955

>>93008927
That was the good bit and makes me think how good of a parody this could've been but everyone wants to be Miller and Moore and nobody wants to write the fun stuff.

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>>93009017
I admit that I'd be incredibly into a total high camp version of SE with Zemo's mancrush/boarding school fanfic front and center

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>>93009050
should I go jogging tonight, y/n

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>>93009094

>>93009050
Nobody is even writing the fic, RIP.

>>93008197
that's definitely an issue with the digital release, I own the omnibus and I never saw that.

>>93008646
Fuck off, Arcade.

>>93008684
Just Ewing. Probably Priest's mini.

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>>93009122
he's gonna get dumped so hard

>>93008831
The X-Men are a mess. I might've been interested in the Inhumans, if they weren't being fucked over by this push campaign. I hate to sound like that guy, but most of the books seem too concerned with shoving representation in your face rather than telling a story with characters.

Look, I firmly believe in representation and promoting tolerance, but it ain't gonna happen if you shove it in people's faces like this. Your representatives have to be interesting characters with good stories behind them, or else they will be ridiculed for what they are, tokens. You don't get points without effort.

Sorry for the rant, I never get to say this shit outside these threads.

>>93008898
Shame Sam's busy being dead. He was a logical choice to take up the mantle.

>>93008040
>leaving before mutants

so what all do you think about Rainbow Rowell and Kris Anka being the creative team on Runaways

interestingly I've seen very little people excited about her writing it.. even people-/co/-doesn't-like you'd think would be happy aren't very happy

>>93008684
I was reading HydraCap before they turned it into an event. Can't give a fuck now.

>>93009241
I would hope she did some comics writing training or something, but meh.

Interestingly enough I can never tell if (or ever) Millar intends his book to be taken as a satire or straight. I'm re-reading Ultimates and there's Bush asking Cap if 21st century is cool and Hank Pym is intentionally being asshole to Janet and Hulk being literally a sex crazed monster andall these guys unironically celebrating their celebrity status and Cap with his "letter stands for France" shit. Morrison in Supergods that it's all supposed to be cheeky and exploitative but then the book in subtext and text is making the whole America's fight against terrorism is a legit venture and considering Millar did follow this theme up in Civil War, I really don't know how much of this is supposed to be satirical and how much should be taken on face value. Maybe Morrison was wrong about it, who knows.
Also Ultimates does not hold up, mostly because of how unclear the text is but also how cringe it gets and how decompressed it actually is.

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>>93009241
lol this thread

twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/871818941412380672

IDGAF but I'll be interested to see the reception of it.

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>>93009298
I think it's pretty much satire, but what also interests me is the degree to which he takes "the Authority are fascists, you know?" and pushes it the genuinely uncomfortable places Ellis didn't by making them always fighting something so x-treme and cool

Article on Ults:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/on-the-uncomfortable-brilliance-of-marvels-the-ultimates.html

>>93009210
Neither X-Men nor Inhumans is being held back by representation man, what are you talking about? And I'm talking about main book, I don't care for Iceman's gay adventures, they'll never be as cool as Middy's gay adventures.

>>93009310
Launching Secret Warriors as a tie-in (even if it is necessary for the plot) was probably a terrible idea
>>93009241
I saw someonw mention that she is disliked by some groups because of accidental racism, but I know nothing about that

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>>93009371

>>93009241
She came across as genuinely interested in taking the book forward from its full history in the interview.

>>93009409
Yeah that's why some people weren't very excited about her writing it white feminism and all that

I want marvel to learn from their last novelist turned comic writer and have her co write something or be taught, but I doubt she will do either

>>93009241
I've never heard of her because I'm not really into YA stuff but it seems like a decent enough choice? Hopefully she'll be able to write a comic unlike certain other Marvel acquisitions

>>93009310
I don't buy the preorder argument like that. Anyone buying a floppy regularly off the shelf is going to get told by the LCS eventually how preorders and solicits work. People just don't give a fuck.

>>93009241
Reddit seemed excited. But that place is excited for literally everything so who knows. I also think nobody aside from /co/ ever says why not hire good writers and why keep hiring this trash YA novelists.

>>93009310
High on his own fumes man.

>>93009371
The cinematic thing is spot on. No MCU as we know it without Ultimates.

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>>93009410
>and Dead Girl gets your room

>>93009441
Marvel really needs something like the DC workshops.

>>93009239
I was in it for Cena Hulk, I've unlocked and enjoyed him, and now the game is a 2 gig albatross that keeps my tablet from updating literally every other app on the damn thing.

Mob Enthorcer is keeping me marginally interested in the shithouse event that ought to be a Contest of Champions crossover.

>>93007607
Oh hell, they probably did this with Prince too.

>>93009241
Never heard of her, and the only Runaway I ever gave a shit about was Victor.

>>93009507
You should (sync first to itunes/google play of course) delete and reinstall when it bloats past like 1 gig.

But yeah I don't blame you.

>>93009310
>twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/871818941412380672
desu I don't disagree with him

big two aren't very good at campaigning in general
the best marvel did was a happy accident with kamala because lots people were pissed at a muslim hero and gave her free publicity and then more people started defending her and staning her. the book was actually good so she went somewhere.
thor was more manufactured based off what happened with kamala it seems

dc, bless them, tried with #dcyou but flopped hard

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>>93007627
Except for Kate Leth, that witch.

>>93009310
I completely forgot there was even a book called Secret Warriors

>>93009094
Do it senpai

Speaking of mobile games, DC Legends has a free movie Wonder Woman if you log into it in the next few days.
The actual game is still kind of crap though

>>93009561
This is most fans of a comic character desu.

>>93009241
Aside from the initial shitposting, nobody seems to give a single, solitary fuck about this book. Which must suck pretty bad for Runaways fans.

>tfw you know that feel

>>93009371
I just can never tell with Millar. Are characters sitting around and having issue long conversation supposed to be a cheeky way of saying these characters are shallow as fuck, is Millar really going the extra mile or is it supposed to be some form of fleshing the characters and characterization.

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>>93009558
Big Two is pretty crappy at marketing, but bringing up KSD is such a deflection because her aims and goals were much more sophisticated than your average bear and ultimately diverged from making the Marvel book succeed

>>93008387
Goliath's inability to shrink was established waaaay back in the day.

Everyone gets mad about the Tarp, but despite technically committing treason, he was buried in Arlington.

>>93009618
>tfw you remember certain Dickfags who complained something Seeley or King wrote that they just took from Dixon

Blame Dixon for making Tim smarter and a better detective than Dick you fucks

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>>93009639
because anon-kun told me to I'm going to go jogging

we should be on tomorrow! thanks for reading!

>>93009595
>never properly built Cheetah so I can't beat the 35 energy level in the event

such is life

>>93009684
Feels like Dr Finlay is an intentional ref but I don't see where. Maybe only in the shared name.

Anyway, night OP

>>93009684
thanks again OP

>>93009642
That inability to shrink was eventually cured.

>>93009639
Is Doop telling him to fuck off?

>>93009298
>"Do you think this A on my head stands for France?"
See, that's way too fucking stupid to not be a joke, and yet, it's played completely straight. But then, the paradoxical structure of that line is the least of its problems.

>>93009684
night OP, have a nice run

>>93009241
>Rainbow Rowell
What kind of fucking name is that?

>>93009765
I think Millar both unironically enjoys it and realises how stupid it is.

>>93009684
See you then, enjoy your trot.

>>93009684
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

I swear, X-Statix just gets weirder and weirder, to the point it's hard to even comment on it any more.

>>93009798
It's totally Schrödinger's Troll, on Millar's part.

>>93009799
I haven't run in weeks :|

>>93009869
https://twitter.com/KurtBusiek/status/871903114126737409

Busiek describing the WARBIRD run he would have written

>>93009798
He's definitely self aware, a lot of people don't realize it. But on the other hand I can never figure out his political stands and beliefs so I can never tell what's what.

>no JSA in subject line
You're playing with fire, OP.

>>93011299
I knew I fucking forgot something

>>93011299
I wouldn't mind having a JSA run as the next storytime. I just can't get bored reading those characters.

>>93008108
Waid's run is loved because of the art first and foremost, but mainly because it came on the heels of the franchise basically being in the shitter.

Claremont was a horrible fit for the book and basically filled it with the Excalibur characters no one liked and not the ones who Claremont never got around to resolving their stories (Sat-Yr-9).

After Claremont left, the book flailed about with a bunch of different writers doing damage control (retconning Claremont's new Marvel Girl into being the Richards kid Byrne killed off in the womb, bringing back Galactus, putting Doom back into play for other writers to use).

Fantastic Four was in such a bad place that Waid's run was seen as an improvement because he at least had a vision for the book, after three years of people cleaning up Claremont's messes and three years of Claremont shitting around the place aimlessly

>>93009310
> wasn't too expensive for KSD

does he not remember that KSD Captain Marvel was a sales flop multiple times?

>>93013810
IIRC Kelly has said that the first volume of her run sells really well to this day but the subsequent volumes don't sell nearly as well.

She said she gets a lot of people coming up to her at cons either asking her to sign their copy of vol. 1 or just telling her how much they loved it, and when she asks if they've read the other volumes they're like "oh, well I haven't gotten around to it yet".

Tbh I think that has more to do with the way "geek culture" works nowadays where people want to be a surface-level fan of everything without going deep into anything than it does with the actual quality of the book, but that's conjecture on my part.

Anybody here liked Shade the Changing Man or Authority?

>>93013967
I'm a big fan of at least the first half of Shade. I like parts of Wildstorm but other anons ITT are more into it than I am.

>>93008831
USAvenger has been dog shit, as was the previous series.

They should have just fucking done an OG X-Force book and not fucking bothered with Squirrel Girl or the rest of the F-List scum they stuck Sam and Bobbie with. Hell, retcon Sam's wife as a whore who fucked a stranger to get pregnant to trap him into marriage, and just fucking end that garbage marriage too.

Sam, Bobbie, Boomer, Shatterstar, Rictor, Siren, Warpath, and Domino fighting bad guys globally would have been far far far better.

>>93009371
To be fair, Ellis only jumped onto the "Authority are fascist" bandwagon out of spite and anger that no one gave a shit about Planetary while Authority went from C-List comic to A-List comic EVERYONE LOVES the moment he ceded the book to Millar.

He'll never outright admit it, but Ellis probably wishes he never gave up Authority and either gave Planetary to Millar or just told Millar to fuck off and cut him out of his circle of sycophants and suck ups rather than allow him to become more famous than he is.

>>93013967
Shade the Changing man is pretty darn good for the first 50 issues or so. There's a big change of scenery after ~31 though, and people who loved the first little bit of the series might be a bit turned off. It really feels like it was supposed to end at issue #50, but continued on anyways.
OP mentioned that she got her hands on about half the run physically, and was considering running it next (assuming that YOU are not OP).
I just realized that Shade the Changing Girl is also coming out this week.

>>93014107
I always though that was bullshit, because of the previous stormwatch endorsed a lot of what would go into Authority, he never really made them you know he never made me go"yup those are people who definitely fascist, thanks for saving us from the rape camps and cleaning up the areas"

>>93014160

The Vertigo Shade book was definitely supposed to end at issue #50 but sold well enough that DC basically reneged on their deal with Milligan to end the book with #50 and told him he could keep writing it or they'd find someone else who would.

>>93014160
It might be fun to read OG Shade just to compare with new Shade and see what gets pulled over. The Shade/Kathy/Lenny dynamic is obviously mirrored by Shade/River/Teacup, but not exactly (teens vs. adults, it couldn't be exactly), the first arc is a lot smaller in scope, Loma is in some ways a much more active protagonist than Rac, the whole Meta-an plot. Shit like that.

In terms of pure character writing the whole middle part of Shade the Changing Man has to be an all-time fave.

>>93013732
>Claremont was a horrible fit for the book and basically filled it with the Excalibur characters no one liked and not the ones who Claremont never got around to resolving their stories (Sat-Yr-9).

God, he did that with EVERY BOOK HE GOT in the 00s. No wonder Marvel pays him to not write now.

>>93014769
Well, you could say the same for Levitz.