/co/ pilots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K5k3UFbJ-k

Not sure why, I just liked this one

>>92960686
I want to draw some Modifyers smut. Any suggestions?

I wanted to see more of Baron Vayne's creepy henchmen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n08lJ5Jq5js
the CalArts is strong with this one

>>92961988
do any new ambitious cartoonists draw heads that don't look like potatoes?

>>92960686
it was REALLY because it was read as a "girl show"- and at the time the network it was pitched to did not want one.
>>92961988
>calarts
What? Do you have eyes? That looks like french indie animation more than anything. (and it's a good show- don't you worry)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvXtRVifAXE

I love this, but considering what happened with Bee and PuppyCat, I'm kind of glad it wasn't picked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcK5UUWbyC8

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>>92962776
Aw yeah

>>92960686
Admit it- you just watched the Modifuckers, didn't you?

>>92963467
the what?

>>92960686
>i really don't get why this wasn't picked up

It had a female main character which wasn't considered marketable unlike the other show they greenlit at around that time, Fanboy and Chumchum.

I suspect that they probably weren't too fond of the dual character role either; Nickelodeon had already turned down Phineas and Ferb multiple times not all that long before then because the double stories in each episode made it "too complicated".

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>>92964242
> Fanboy and Chumchum.
Lately I've been seeing people say it was a different show just about every time somebody mentions it. It was actually rejected in favor of Back at the Barnyard.

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>>92960686
I am genuinely saddened that this got rejected
Also
Agent xero > felicity shadows

>>92960686
>>92961924

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/612135

>>92960686
And it never will be because you know why.

>>92964437
Because Nickelodeon rejected it for the cow show and the internet wouldn't catch wind of it until years after it had been abandoned?

>>92964468
That and it will always have the reputation of being known for porn. It's like seeing a porn actress in a children's show. Ain't gonna fly.

>>92964302

Back to the Barnyard was 2007 which was well before The Modifyers came out; Adventure Time was what they passed on while giving the go-ahead to BttB.

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>>92964496

>>92964485
Yes, years after it had been rejected and abandoned. Wasn't going to happen anyway.

>>92964531
When you make a pilot for a network are you under contract to you'll hand over all rights to show and everything it?

>>92964576
No, because if that were true, Adventure Time would have never happened.

>>92964576
It depends on whatever contracts you sign. In this case, it clearly says that it all belongs to Viacom in this case. Meaning the creators couldn't do anything with it if they wanted, unless they convinced another company to buy it from them.

well, because everyone feels the need to make this about why the thing didn't get picked up or porn, i'll just move it on

https://youtu.be/o7fR6gLQ2C8
>Constant Payne
>Steampunk world
>dropped b/c two towers kinda looked like WTC

>>92960686
I will never not be mad at this not getting picked up.

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Could this have saved Canadian animation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_rXxp6KY8

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>>92964531
>The Modifyers' pilot was 10 years ago

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>>92964690
Cybersix briefly saved Canadian animation. By briefly I mean for a couples years before fucking off into obscurity.

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>>92960686
I really fucking hate it when they add some good elements like Kitty Katswell(an appetizing cake) and then immediately splash a bucket of salt, meat and gravy all over it and tell us to enjoy our cake ruined by meat.

I think like this because I vehemently hated Cartoonnetwork and Nickledeon with their garbage comedy cartoons made for retards.

Whenever a more serious plot would come up they'd waste it with one of their cop-out endings like in PPG and Dexter's Lab. I hated the endings to the rowdyruff boys and the speed demon episode in ppg.

I think like this because back then I had Foxkids and Minimax with far far more sensible and serious cartoons to shape up my tastes, so I never got the stockholm syndrome hate/love relationship most people have for stuff like Ed Edd Eddy.

I think Kids Next Door was the only grotesque looking comedy children's cartoon which wasn't really comedy, they prioritized action, story, characters.
It probably had to do with the fact it was a spy cartoon, so everyone had to act at least competent, even Cookie the comic relief.

>>92960686
Take your pick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVXfDX64Q4

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INDEFINITE

LOCOMOTIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6Xwg_lhuQ

>>92966468
holy shit, forgot about this
they basically did it, but worse with regular show

>>92966139
You're a huge autist. How old are you?

>>92966400
It ripped off of Adventure Time

>>92966400
yes
and totally not just because Tulip is adorable

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>>92961924
Xero done up as the pinup girl on the left (hair's still pink) starting to pull down her panties.

>>92960963
Football head!

>>92962223
It was also because Nick had this retarded rule that a voice actor couldn't have a starring role in multiple shows at a time because this somehow would confuse children. In this case, Mae Whitman was busy playing Katara on Avatar.

This same rule actually lead to Invader Zim being shelved briefly because it was first pitched when Angry Beavers was still running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wk8uVFeKU

Shame this wasn't picked up.

you can write millions of plots using any premise

and if you can't all that means is you're a shit writer

>>92967735
Nice!

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Katbot actually got picked up, but then Disney killed it mid-production and it never saw the light of day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aioNVeXRzw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzLrYeKlSag

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Been a while since I saw Carmen got expelled mentioned on /co/.

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It's not up on Amazon anymore, but I liked the pilot for Eddie of the Realms Eternal.

>>92960686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fR6gLQ2C8&ab_channel=jabbajaw94565

>>92968358
Yep I remember this back in the day...the dude said it might have been 1 scene that killed it that looked like the twin towers.

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>>92968350
I wish there was still a way to watch it, like if some anon had kept a rip.

>>92964496
What's wrong with exec's brains that makes them so out of touch with what people would enjoy?

>>92964576
When you pitch an idea with any pre-made production/concept art, it's still yours and you can take it to any studio.

When the studio offers to buy the pitch, all property now belongs to them. You will go on to develop the idea and pilot episode until it comes time for them to make a decision if you've been approved for pilot production.

After the pilot is animated, they'll decide whether or not to green light the series. If not, you've just lost all those months/years worth of work and can't ever use those characters again. If so, you get a show.

There are rare instances where people have formulated contracts that allow them to retain creative rights of characters even after the pitch has been bought out by the studio which allows them to continue using the characters even if the network passes on the pilot. Sometimes though, that little clause with make or break a studio passing up your work if that is your demand.

>>92972541
Forgot to mention that up until the pilot is approved for production/to be animated, the studio will often have semi regular meetings with the creator to see how progress is going and to determine whether or not the people in charge are still interested in the pitch. Sometimes it can be weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly. You will do things like stand up in front of a small room of a couple of people, talk about characters, environments, pitch storyboards, pitch episode ideas, etc. It doesn't happen all at once, it's a slow process of showing them bits and pieces as you're developing it. Sometimes the network will send back revision notes and that's how you get things like SpongeBob going to Boating School ("He needs to be in a school!") or Marco having those school two friends that Darcy never uses.

If there's enough interest after months of pitching, then that's when you'll get approval. It very rarely is an instant one-day giant pitch process where someone has the entire cartoon thought out and ready to go.

>>92972541
>If not, you've just lost all those months/years worth of work and can't ever use those characters again

That's fucking dumb

>>92972951
It's a risk, but it isn't like the creator got absolutely nothing in return. The studio does buy the pitch initially, it is technically a sale. Creators are also quite capable of reading the paperwork of what it means to sell the idea and can back out and keep the characters if they don't want a studio to have control of it.

>>92972711
Thanks anon, was an interesting read

>>92972268
they are between 60 and 80 years old, were born into money, grew up sheltered, studied business, never had any hobbies but drugs and whores, and feel more pride if they succeed at selling a godawful product for a profit than they do if they sell a good product for slightly less profit

or to put it another way, they've gotten everything they want their whole life

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I wish it got picked up. Is have more mousepads to make.

>>92974116
That thread was amazing. I envy that guy.

>>92967032
How is it an Adventure Time ripoff?

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>>92975533

>>92974116
the social being in me cringes at this but i really want these

>>92974116
A friend saw this pic a while ago. He knows I like that character a lot and asked me if this was mine. It's not but after seeing it I sure wish it was.

>>92974116
I would be willing to make a mouse pad like those, only if I knew how to.

>>92975574
That episode and the Infinity Train pilot only have surface level similarities.

>>92966400

Honestly that and Forever 12 where both complete shit. Zero plot, zero hook and both lead by generic nerd so strong red head.

>>92969722
>>92968358
Thought it was because a lead designer/animator or whatever was trying to start a union

>>92964390
not usually a goth person but shadows is way better

>>92983222
Lacey's cool and all, but there's just so many fucking cartoon goth girls that her true identity as a 60s mod fashion cartoon girl stands out much more as a distinctive character.

>>92968350
>>92971324
Seconding this. Does anyone here have a download?

>>92960686
They picked Mighty B over it and they didn't want any any more "girly" shows with female protags as they did already.

>>92983661
but xero reminds me too much of austin powers and I can't fap to that. plus the hair is just too long and the sideburns remind me of that guy from xiolin showdown

>>92960686
Nick is retarded. As long as they, Disney and Cartoon Network run the shows there will never be an improvement in quality.

>>92966139
Are you autistic? Curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PoKWKqFE_M

i`ll defend this pilot till the day i die.
i know music-based cartoons tend to end poorly, but i still have hope

Frankly I think the whole thing went to shit as soon as Xero showed up.

Honestly Im not even sure what the point is then. There is no way they can keep that premise going,.

>>92983922
I'm with you anon, it's a damn good short. Think you're hope is unjustified bough, it's clearly a product of its time and all the crew have well gone on to work on different things.

>>92983967
The premise of a secret agent stopping bizarre rogues using a variety of disguises and personas with a transforming? Because it's pretty much perfect for a weekly formula.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyEyJkrEZJ4

I sort of like this one, even if the titular character's speech patterns get grating even after 6 minutes

>>92983734
>Not liking ridiculously long hair

>>92984100

you know damn well she would have kept the one and we'd just get a series of status quo resets as to how Shadows isn't busted

>>92960963
The thing about those "Random Cartoons" pilots from 2008 or so is that most of them were terrible, some were okay, and a few were pretty good.

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>>92984304
> she would have kept the one

>>92984235
You know, you can just admit you only liked it for the cute girl.

>>92982557
Nope, it was because one of their blimp things nearly did a 9/11.

>>92975574
Inifinity train is overrated. The main charecter is a bitch and the only reason it got popular is because people lath on to shows with mysteries regardless of quality.

>>92984680
See: Gravity Falls

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MINA AND THE MOTHERFUCKING COUNT

>>92968031
I actually remember seeing a promo for this on Disney Channel eons ago...

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>>92968034
I just watched the pilot. This absolutely should have gotten a show.

>>92971324
>>92983684
I've got a copy. Give me a bit and I'll upload it to MEGA.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gK0uNlLa3s

>>92971324
>>92983684
>>92986801
https://mega.nz/#!jhMVXJjC!GVwosnj8sKYszUW8yWCnWwKl1EGHGtM6ANuwokFiB9g

>>92987139
can confirm it is not dolphin porn, thanks dude

>>92987139
Never heard of this but I'll grab it. Thanks.

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>>92986801
>>92987139
Thanks man.

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>>92964485
>It's like seeing a porn actress in a children's show.
I don't see a problem with that

>>92974871
I am that guy
>>92975714
>>92976894
If the threads still up in a couple hours I can give you guys codes to get mousepads for $1 shipped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr759dhxmJ0

This show came too early

>Not a single mention of the BEST show ever dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqjS_IvLpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep6__f-i6jw

Am I allowed to like this? Or is the anti-John K rhetoric on /co/ too strong.

>>92987139
man that was pretty good. kid flash from young justice as the elf wizard, and that twist at the end was pretty good.

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>>92987942
I'm still mad that "If you give a Mouse a Cookie" won over EotRE.

>>92964030
It's the name of a well known (here at least) porn parody of the Modifyers pilot, created by Zone.
If you're curious, give it a watch. It's pretty solid fap material.

>>92988102
no thnx bro, not really into cartoons

>>92987760
My man

>>92988017
I bet that chick was his sister that is somehow traveling into the realm

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>>92988247
w-why are you even here?

>>92988398
ell it says Comics & Cartoons up at the top of the board doesn't it?
Clearly he's here for the &

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>>92988367
Maybe, but she doesn't look very much like she does in Eddie's realm.

>>92988398
>>92988422
you realize I was talking about the porn, right?
drawings don't really get my dick wet

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>>92988472
I stand by my confusion to why you are here

>>92986993
underrated

>>92988512
Retardation is funny for some people.

>>92960686
>Evil girl is cute
>Her real version is ugly
Glad this was never picked up

>>92968350
>>92988017
>>92987139
It sucks that well never get to learn what her deal is though.

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>>92988720
Forgot Pic

>>92986993
I'd kill for Dorkin to at least try again with adult swim.

>>92990118
Neat.

>>92972541
>>92972951
What's the legal reasoning for a studio owning your characters even if the pilot fails? Not only is it a dick move, it's just stupid.
They weren't going to do anything with the characters/show anyway, why bother hanging onto useless property?

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>>92964619
I'm getting a cowboy bebop, jacki chan adventures and batman vibe from this

>dropped b/c two towers kinda looked like WTC
must we really let the terrorists win?

>>92966468
I remember this network.
what did they end up replacing it with?

>>92986993
>all your base references
>it was an AXE-ident
I'm sold

>>92991395
i think the way it was supposed to work was if you were to quit, but they're still running whatever it is, they can legally make it without your permission

>>92964619
It thought it was dropped because the creator wanted unions?

>>92990595
Lacy Shadows! My faaaaaaaaaaaavorate!

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>This thread

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Great short, stupid title. Rippy Syppy.

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I always wanted one of those shows that seems normal but it's got the spooky undertones, you know? You know that type? Not enough of it. Gravity Falls could have had it but they blew it. Like the over the garden wall type undertones.

>>92988017
>>92987139
>>92971324
>>92968350
The pilot has decent animation, it's a shame about it's plot, it's got some tone issues, can't tell what age group it's trying to appeal to.
The dialogue was way too smarmy, too many quips. VA work was alright, but it lacked a certain edge to it, felt like they were too familiar with each other (the two male leads/elf-boy&Ed-III). and I guess that's the thing, it lacked edge, I'm not saying it should be grimdark, it should just be a little better thought out.

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>>92999709
Rapunzel-tier hair is the best.

>>92992817
A lot of shows were canned in 2001, when the pilot was dropped. One was ended in 2001 and the others were stretched out in 2004-2005.

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I dunno.

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>>93002720
I remember when /co/ was obsessed with her for like a week. Maybe less. I always preferred this zombie girl though.

>>92966400
The concept was nice but I didn't like MC