Explain this character to me

>>92959375
Appears in Nightwing DCEU movie

Was actually an editorial fuck up and they decided to just make her a separate character

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This should suffice

>>92959375
sparkly tits

WW was too sexual.

>>92959375
She is the best looking woman character in history of comics

>>92959442
this

literally a mistake

>>92959560
Donna is more sexual than Diana. Literally even had a child in the same continuity where WW was a kissless virgin.

>>92959442
I actually went to her Wikipedia page.

Good lord DC has a fucked up continuity. I'm so glad Marvel is anal about their continuity(unless it's Bendis).

>>92959764
Wonder Woman and Hawkman, man. I honestly dont think there are any other characters from any company with histories as convoluted as them.
Not even the Summers family tree.

>>92959764
It's not that bad. Marvel is worse, they just sweep it under the rug and ignore it.

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>>92959375
She's a Wonder Woman who is allowed to sleep around.
And she got married to a self-insert, retired from being a superhero due to insistence from her husband, ended up divorcing him, and had her kid and ex die after the ex drove off a cliff.

Just think of her as Diana's little sister and leave it at that.

>>92959764
>I'm so glad Marvel is anal about their continuity
What the fuck are you talking about? Marvel ignores 99% of their continuity.

DC's continuity is BECAUSE of being anal about it.

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>>92959764
>marvel

Sliding time scale, anon. It creates a whole other batch of problems.

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For context, Wonder Girl was originally included in the Teen Titans because Bob Haney wasn't aware of who she actually was and just thought she was Diana's younger sister.

In reality she was just Wonder Woman when she was younger, like Superboy. But Haney saw issues where she was teamed up with her older self and got confused (those were actually "impossible stories")

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This ain't yer little sister's Wonder Girl!

>>92961958
I really like this costume. I think the people in the time legit fap to Donna when she change to this.

>>92961945
And there were a LOT of issues like that, because Kanigher never let a little thing like causality get in the way of telling an awesome story.
There were issues where Diana, herself as a teen and herself as a toddler all shared the same bedroom.

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>>92959764
Are you a time traveler from the 80s?

>>92959375
Wonder woman with a a better and and more chic

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Origin #2

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I thought the Titan thing was established in the arc of NTT where Donna bangs Hyperion but I was mistaken

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Dick Grayson = Dick Tracy

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Terry Long and the kids' deaths were the most unceremonious thing ever.

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Like one page of them driving off a cliff that isn't dealt with until the next issue.

Byrne left a convenient out in it by saying "their bodies were so damaged it was if it were intentional"

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I'm a longtime Titans fan and I've always liked both Donna and Garth despite their kind of irregular and poorly explained backstories.

I also love the chemistry between Donna and Starfire.

>>92962143
>awesome story
If only that were true.

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>>92962774
I think a lot of them were really fun. Despite being really silly and obviously girl-focused with the princess angle and the romance.

Not the kind of great stuff people like Gardner Fox did, but the kind of wacky fun most people associate the Silver Age with to this day.

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;_;

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>>92962922
Just look at Dick drinking tea

>>92962829
Silver Age DC comics are great for out of context panels/pages and outrageous covers but the comics themselves were dogshit, at least the writing.

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This is still my preferred origin for Donna.

Sad Crisis fucked it all up.

>>92962955
Yeah, at least Wonder Woman and Superman, and 50's Batman.

There's a lot of stuff that gets unfairly called shit just for having stilted dialogue, but has story structure.

>>92959375

Essentially a good barometer for the weird shit going on at DC at that moment. She was made from a continuity snafu when everyone was trying new shit haphazardly. Then by the 90's she got revamped into a powered armor edgy space hero to be Xtreme Kool. Then by the Nu52 she got another convoluted backstory to reconcile shit just like every other character.

It even carries over into other shit. In the MMO when everyone else carries over a cool nickname she's just "Donna Troy" since all her other titles are unavailable or taken by someone else and Sony really didn't feel like taking the effort, just like a lot of shit they make.

When stuff with Donna is good, it's an era where DC is doing good. You can reverse that for Bad too.

>>92961945
Nick Cardy's Donna looks so fuckable.

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>>92962993
Hardcore Dick

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Best shipt

>>92962922
what donna origin do you prefer? I swear every single origin she had can be their own character.

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>>92962459
this is a great opening sequence

>>92963061
What do you think of "The Return of Donna Troy"? I think I remember you briefly mentioning it a while ago, but I might be wrong.

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And now we get into the REAL fucky one.

>>92963104
The original pre-Crisis one.

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Most amazing part of this is it starts as a 4-part then becomes a 5-part.

>>92963214
Incredible art, but that's all I can really remember from it.

>>92959375
Useless character overall. No real personality or great stories. Multiple confusing/conflicting origins because she was created solely because Haney got a Wonder Woman cover mixed up for a real character; even Nu52/Rebirth Donna has had like 4 origins already. Mainly kept around because she's an "expected" character.

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>>92963275
I think she works as a great supporting character. Not every character has to have "great stories" of their own.

>>92963357
That's true: it's not like there's a treasure trove of great Nightcrawler stories. The problem is Donna's not really good as a supporting character either. She's waifubait without the sexy cheesecakey fun of Starfire.

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I read sporadic NTT reprints as a kid and always liked Donna.

>>92963406
Eh, I can't say quite why I liked her. But she is great in the end of Byrne's run (like, the last couple issues) and in Jimenez's run.

I guess I'd describe her just as... sisterly? Where Diana is very motherly and Cassie is like a much younger sister. Donna kind of came off like a cool older sister to me.

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But also keep in mind the only NTT characters I was never fond of were Raven and Jericho.

To me they were like these cool older kids. Felt very relatable to me. Dick's like your big brother, Starfire's his hot girlfriend who's actually really cool, Donna's like a big sister, Cyborg's the jock who's really nice, Changeling is the funny guy, etc.

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They're all very simple so when people ask me to describe their personality I can't really do it. I can't say WHY they're compelling, they just are when they're all together like this.

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And then there's the dumb fucking little kid 1337 hax0r. I hated that archetype even when I was young and first obsessed with computers.

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I believe X-Men held a lot of the same appeal to people, but I never got into them so I can't say for sure.

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As a kid I never thought of these as DC characters, actually, just as "not Marvel". I was a big Marvel kid.

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But I've kinda got off track here, so back to the comic

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So the whole point of this was that, after Crisis on Infinite Earths, most of the NTT's history was kept because it was super popular.

But Donna no longer made any sense because Wonder Woman was revamped to be about 22 years old, no longer a founding JLA member and having come to man's world around the time of the Legends event.

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So now you had a Diana who would have to have been like 1 year old when she rescued Donna.

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>Kanigher Orphanage

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If you haven't read Teen Titans Year One, you need to.

>>92963756
cool page

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"Andrew Ross" is a reference to Ross Andru, defining Silver Age Wonder Woman artist.

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Two months = like three years

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You could call this storytime "Who the FUCK is Wonder Girl?"

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Most of this part is lifted from that earlier storyline where the Titans' origin was explained, but Donna wasn't yet part of it.

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What I'm kind of trying to show here is that this stuff isn't THAT confusing when you read it in context and not just in summary on Wikipedia.

It's stupid, especially when Byrne fucks around with it, but it feels a lot clearer.

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>>92963994
>Lusty Titanic Maid

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Love leads to greed, greed leads to jealous, jealous leads to rage, rage leads... to suffering!

>>92959375
cunt.

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Garfield dropping truth bombs

Always good to get a storytime, thanks Tex.

>>92964252
I feel like the precrisis and titans of myth stories can be reconciled.

Why don't they give her a simple backgroundstory.
I mean all this fuss is terrible.
I ones read a fanfiction (based onthe n52) where she was the daughter of the Titan Prometheus (and a human mother) and because of that there where some conflicts with WW because she is the daughter of Zeus.
Wasn't that bad

>>92965801
I mean she would literally be a Teen TITAN

>>92959375
"Wonder Woman's (possibly adopted) younger sister" has always worked for me.

>>92964252
So in the N52, Donna was that edgy girl that gave birth to Darkseid 2.0?

>>92967332
No, that's some random other Amazon.

Donna was made because some Amazons were butthurt that Diana was the Queen and allowing the banished male Amazons to live on the island, so they made Donna with some ancient ritual or some shit and she killed all the men.

>>92967371
I wonder if she'll be introduced to Rebirth

>>92967371
Honestly, Donna being originally an anti-Wonder Woman type villain who reformed under Diana's guidance and became part of her family is a pretty neat origin that ties in nicely with Diana's themes that had the misfortune of being shackled to one of her worst runs.

>>92967415
She's in Titans, and her origin was recently reestablished, so it hasn't changed.

>>92967431
Need to read more Rebirth then.

>>92967371
Hippolyta was still a statue from when Hera turned her to stone for sleeping with Zeus in Azz's run

So the butthurt Amazon (who was actually Hippolyta's ex, but poisoned to lose her eternal youth so she was an old crone) melted down Hippolyta and used her petrified remains in that ritual. They also had another Amazon sacrifice her baby daughter.

So nu52 Donna is a clay golem made out of two human sacrifices

>>92959764
What war was Punisher in?

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>>92967431
even if it means Azz's story is non-canon thank FUCK Finch's Donna is non-canon.

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>>92967462

>>92959375
Turbo suffering