Say /co/, do you like football?

>>92924344
Was he a good president?

>>92925604
He certainly was a president

>>92925604
Not bad

>>92925604
There's a reason he couldn't win a term in his own right.

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>>92924344
Yes.

>>92925604
He preceded Nixon, so he definitely had a lot going for him. Then he pardoned Nixon, so that was pretty much it for any hope of re-election.

That being said, I would still take him in a heartbeat over the last two republican administrations.

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>>92925651
Do you like nachos?

>>92925604
There really isn't a good metric to judge quality of a president on.

>>92925743
*succeeded

>>92925774
...other presidents?

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>>92925747
yes

>>92925805
But no other presidents were president while Ford was in office. You don't know what they would have done in the same situation. Nor can you ever know what Ford would/could have done in their situations.

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>>92925901
Well, why don't you come over and watch the game, and we'll have some nachos? And then we'll touch each other.

>>92925923
That's pretty flawed logic. If you refuse to do something when given the option or make shitty choices in your career it's safe to say you failed at what you were doing.

>>92925604
Name ONE (1) good president.

>>92926038
George Washinton

>>92926038
James K Polk

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>>92926082
fr*ck off

>>92926038
Lincoln, Wilson minus the racism, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Teddy I guess.

>>92926141
>Wilson
the guy who input a central bank in america after our forefathers fought so hard to keep one of out of america, so national debt wouldn't incur, yea....NO

>>92926141
the only good one in that list you gave was Lincoln, I would also say JFK everyone else is a puppet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fISgKl8dB3M

>>92926297
Wilson was one of the first presidents post-Industrial era to start putting regulations on businesses, which would eventually be picked up by the Roosevelt administration. He's not exactly my favorite, so I'm not going to go out of my way to defend him, but he could've been a lot worse (see Hoover).

>>92926141
Half of those presidents were ass.

>>92926038
Jimmy Carter.

>>92926340
...why did you post that?

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>>92926038

The one and only Teddy

>>92926340
i'm not good at being a loonie. are there any conspiracies theories centered around JFK raising a bunch of super soldiers?

>>92926608
You do know the 1980 election was over 30 years ago, right? Your boy already won, you don't need to keep using the same propaganda.

>>92926355
WIlson introduced the Federal Reserve, income tax and turned America into an interventionalist country
His shit legacy is still felt today

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>>92926608
>>92926684
GOPbots caught in the act, holy shit.

Carter brought back draft registration. Fuck that guy.

>>92926721
You mean the stuff that got us out of the great depression?

>>92926388
seeing the world for what its is, is always scary at first anon, also jfk enforcing physical fitness for every american to be mentally and phsycially strong and healthy comes off as bad to you? Jfk really did want to implement systems into america to help further our country.

>>92926809
Kennedy wanted to start World War III with China over Vietnam.

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>>92926038
Taft

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>>92926038
Even the "best" presidents had their moments of shame, really. Because they were all human beings, imperfect, just like the rest of us.

Some of them were worse than others, sure, but there was never a perfect president, and there was never a perfect anything, really.

It's a sobering thought.

>>92926441
theres no lunacy to knowing the truth of how our country really works, its ok though, I get it, staying in blessful ignorance is the best course for you. Also why wouldn't you want to be a chad from young thats just stupid.

>>92926721
This so much
>>92926757
>Nigga thinks the federal reserve doesn't inflate debt
wtfffffffff

>>92926757
what is Pearl Harbor

AND THATS WHY YER NO GOOD KIDS ARE RUNNIN' WILD!

>>92925604
The greatest. In fact he's arguably done more for the economy than the other 45 combined.

>>92926862
>Jackson was a racist warmongering madman who bullied his way into office
>Also the only president ever to get the National Debt to 0, if only for a short time

Really cooks yer noodle

>>92926848
the war was gonna come whether Kennedy was in office or not. Presidents don't really run the country the central banks and everyone in bed with them do from the warhawks to the saudi's, shit like this has been going on for years and its still going on today just look at syria.

>>92925963
How is it flawed? I agree with that anon. We can feel that one's worse than another and we can say we personally know better after the fact, but there really isn't a gauge for comparison within the US.

Now we could compare them to other world leaders which make similar decisions in the same time frame, though.

>>92926952
FDR, a liberal Democrat president, was the guy who created the military-industrial complex that liberals have been bitching about for decades because he converted the entire US economy to a giant war machine in such a way that it's never been possible to completely change it back again.

>>92927050
To be fair, it was WWII. Was either that or let Adolf have his way. Least Eisenhower tried to break it all up

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>>92926797
>blames Reagan for actions caused by Tip O'Neill's Democrat Congress

>>92927050
Wilson, FDR, LBJ and Reagan completely fucked America into the disastrous dystopia we have today
As much as people hate Trump he's the first president in decades to stand up against globalist and political institutions

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>>92926038
Calvin Coolidge

>>92926141
>FDR
You couldn't be any more wrong, you commie.

>>92926721
Wilson also had a stroke, lied to the American people, and allowed his wife to run the country.

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>>92926729
I'm saving this for posterity. Jesus christ

>>92926998
Jackson's a goddamn hero.

Except for the Trail of Tears.

That was fucked up.

>>92926729
That's nothing. You should see how half of /pol/ is made of Shareblue spam.

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>>92927109
Seeing how jews operate now, I would've gone with Adolf.

>>92925604
He was the best president never elected.

>>92925604
Not really.

>>92927456

t. edgelord

Speaking of presidents in Simpsons, why do the people of Springfield think Jimmy Carter is "history's greatest monster"?

>>92927536
The joke is that Carter is not a well liked President (whether or not that's justified), but the people of Springfield are being stupid and taking that way too far.

>>92927536
Well he was better than Obama, if by a small margin. Still one of the worst presidents out there though.

>>92927497
its called reality nigga look it up.

>>92927603

you're a nazi because you're going through a teenage edgelord phase, in a few years you'll look back on this and be embarrassed

>>92926880
so if the flouridated rinse they gave us in school was actually super soldier serum, why am I not ripped?

Fellas, please.

I think we can all agree that England's greatest Prime Minster was Pitt the Elder.

>>92927586

Makes sense.

>>92927667

No stupid, it was Lord Palmerston.

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>>92927629
I'm not a teenager and I'm black you fucking faggot. stay on /co/ since the real world is too edgy for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QbjELF-8kY

>>92927662
fluoride is filled with neurotoxins so NO, I'm talking about physically getting your ass off the chair and doing something with yourself to help better you and your outlook on life. if your gonna shitpost at least stay on topic

>>92927747

it's okay anon, some people take a little longer to get out of their edgy phase.

>>92927997
>seeing the real world for what it is as oppose to what I wish it would be so I stay a ignorant snowflake

Yea must be a phase anon.... stay a useful idiot, its clear reality is too harsh a place for you. Stick to the comics cartoons and most likely video games, I'm sure thats a phase your still quite familiar with.

>>92928715

hey anon, shouldn't you be busy researching the holocaust using reliable sources such as stormfront and /pol/? how are you going to overthrow your jewish oppressors if you spend all your time shitposting?

>>92926366
He's history's greatest monster!

>>92926038

There's Taylor there's Tyler, there's Filmore and there's Hayes.

>>92926038
Trump

>>92929229
I'll call him the greatest president ever if he gets that wall completed before he's out.

>>92925604
ironically a good president despite never being elected

>>92929198
And William Henry Harrison.
>"I died in thirty days!"

>>92925604
He never really got a chance to be a bad one

However symbolically "FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD" will stick in my head because the bankruptcy of NYC was one of the early signs of the rising power of finance capital in the world. (Something we've still not countered.)

>>92926038
His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
(You never said he had to be American.)

>>92926141
Carter and Clinton were terrible (though Carter was likable personally). Clinton began the deregulation that Reagan gets credit for and Clinton continued it. Also workfare is gay.

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>>92926038
Gonzald Gumpf

>>92927266
>Hurr durr globalism is bad
Wake up you faggot, globalism is the way of the future and none of your autistic screeching is going to change that

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>>92924344
football? I love football!

>>92926038
William Henry Harrison

>>92926038
Kennedy. Trump comes close 2nd for being a recent example, and being elected right after Obama.

>>92927285
FDR killed any hope for communism in 20th century America with his cowardly social democracy, jackass.

>>92926038
Truman
t. Rorschach

>>92926038
Trump's putting me in the bottom tax bracket again.
I also enjoy what he's doing to Mexicans and mudslimes.
Praise him.

>>92938508
>I also enjoy what he's doing to Mexicans and mudslimes.
You mean NOTHING, because his dumb ass can't get things done in a way the courts won't strike down?

>It's a /co/ discusses politics episode
>It's a mods do nothing about it episode
And I caught a 24 hour ban a few weeks ago for making a joke about Trump's vacation habits

>>92926038
David Rice Atchison

>>92925743
Nixon was a really good president besides the Watergate thing. He did a lot of good for the country.

>>92926860
>Taft

Now this is a man I can get behind.

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>1846
>Being in favour of the Corn Laws
I humbly beg of you: reconsider the situation.

>>92926860
So good he gave that poor voter a stroke.

>>92939992
He was a shrewd international politician. There was a reason why the saying went "Only Nixon can go into China". But the Watergate scandal pretty much tainted his legacy and broke the faith most 20th Century Americans had in the Executive branch of the government.

>>92929198
Taylor is actually the least qualified person to ever be president. Dude hadn't even voted once before coming into office. Filmore was kinda ass himself, but he was better than Taylor would have been, thank god he died in office so early.

>>92926355
You do know that almost the entire New Deal was just expanding on programmes that Hoover started, right?

>>92926111
Good Choice. Unironically the most effective commander in chief we've ever had. I don't agree with all, or even most of his policies honestly, but he conducted himself in the ideal manor for a president, and all other presidents should look to him as a model to emulate.

>>92927050
Not to mention that he wanted to create similar industrial complexes for every industry in the country (see the National Industrial Recovery Act).

>>92926038
Washington, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Eisenhower

>>92925604
He was ok.

He was a great and swell person in real life, fun to hang around with. He would have hung around if he didn't pardon Nixon..

>>92926998
Jackson completely and utterly destroyed the economy towards the end of his presidency, ruining the legacy of the much better president Martin Van Buren, who had to spend his entire presidency cleaning up Jackson's mess.

It's funny, Van Buren and Polk were both excellent presidents, very intelligent, competent politicians who knew what they were doing, and both were proteges to Jackson, who was a raving emotionally unstable madman who spoke the common man's language, i.e. swearing and screaming and threatening violence when people disagreed with his opinions.

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>>92940509
Lincoln was a great man who did great things for both the country, and the world, we're undeniably better off for having had him in office, and would be better off if he had stayed in office and not been assassinated, but he was a bad president.

He was a totalitarian fascist, a benevolent one, yes, but a hardcore fascist none-the-less. He believed in preserving and stengthening the union above all else. Above the rights, freedoms, and prosperity of the american people, above any political ideal or philosophy, above the lives of his citizens. If preserving and strengthening the union meant imprissoning people with discenting ideas without trial then that's what he did. If it meant silencing the press and free speech for promoting anti-union ideas then that's what he'd do. If it meant using crushing, brutal military force on his own citizens then that's what he'd do. If it meant not freeing the slaves, then that's what he would have done.

He was a great man, with great intentions, and did more good for the country than almost anyone else, but he was the embodiment of what the president isn't supposed to be, and gave president and power to future presidents who would abuse that power to terrible effect.

>>92940682
Fair points. But he wasn't James Buchanan who did nothing to resolve the tensions of the pro/anti-slave sentiments while letting the country slide into the mess that was the Civil War. That Lincoln led the country out of the Civil War and might have been far more conciliatory with the Reconstruction terms than Johnson was what makes me think that he was one of the better presidents, if not the platonic ideal of a president.

>>92926038
Donald Trump, Andrew Jackson.

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>>92926860
Still one of my favorite political cartoons

>>92940600

they'll lose

>>92926860
>only president to be a congressman and a supreme court judge

the captain planet of the american government

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>>92941091
>Taft, after his massive fallout with best buddy TR got to have a comfy life as chief justice of the supreme court where he was well liked and respected and his lethargic nature suited the work and he didn't have to be a stressed busy boy
Good end