Why are mouse characters so common in /co/ media? Why not other animals?
What's your favorite mouse character?
Because Mickey was the first talkie cartoon. That's pretty much it.
Choo choo best mousie comin thru!
It's because it's much easier to create a world around them compared to other animals, particularely the "tiny world within the human world" kind. It's relatively simple to imagine a mouse society underground (they often live in packs so it's easy to imagine them as social beings), where the bigger creatures like cats and dogs are monsters, where they must use makeshift techcnology to traverse lenghts that humans could cover up in a few steps and because of their relatively simple features they're a lot easier to anthropomorphzie and add appeal to them.
Try doing something like that with, say, snakes and you'll realize it's nowhere near as easy.
>>92921789
I love this concept every time it's done.
Most recently I've seen is Hollow Knight.
Who's better, Brisby or Bianca?
Mice are also shown as the intelligent but physiologically inferior race of animals, so there's something fascinating about seeing the underdogs establish a level of dominance/superiority through brain power rather than their brawn.
Mice arecute, that's why.
>>92921100
>Why are mouse characters so common in /co/ media?
((they)) run everything, anon.
It makes for a very good under dog character. Mice are the bottom of the pecking order.
What gets me is that there are so many villains who are rats. Is it because they're just fucking hardcore as hell?
Pic related, the alpha rodent.
Mice are nice
>>92927007
Is a slow topic, you better keep it alive.
>>92927808
Why so people like such an inferior moise?
>>92921100
the book was profound and enlightening, too bad the movie was dull garbage. beautifully animated, and well paced, but the emotional complexity of the situation in the rat society is lost in the animated medium. the depth of the characters were shamelessly shaved away.
>>92928793
What a cutie
>>92921100
Because mice are quickly identified as "poor innocent victims", and thus readily likeable.
>>92930103
did his grand daughter release all his lewds yet?
>>92930081
Tell that to Martin the Warrior.
>>92930204
8 chun's /kemono/ boards has some of it, go find it.
Remember the legend?
>>92921100
>Only just recently watched Secret of NIMH
Mrs. Brisby a cutie
>>92927344
Non pet store variety rats are assholes who ruin literally everything. Pet store variety rats are coot.
>>92932667
>Mrs. Brisby a cutie
She really is
>>92932667
What I don't get is how she seems so naked when she takes off that cape that doesn't actually cover anything. It's the most bizarre fuckin' thing.
My kind of thread.
>>92923615
I like Mrs. Brisby more than Bianca. Although ms Bianca is a classy dame.
Who else /squirrel/ here? Rodents are cute.
>>92921789
I really like Mouse Guard.
>>92934270
looking forward to the movie?
>>92934305
Sure.
>>92921789
It helps that mice don't need much to anthropomorphize them. They already have friggin hands. Just have them stand upright, which they can do already, and make them cute.
Mice also aren't really plagued by terrible stereotypes for their personalities either. What with 'dumb dog' and 'asshole cat' being the standouts for common pets.
>>92934021
That happens with any comic or cartoon character that wears something other than pants.
>>92921836
>Hollow Knight
That actually looks kinda fun.
>>92921100
Mrs. Brisby is actually my favorite animated mouse. She's clever and timid like you'd expect a mouse to be, but also selfless and brave for the sake of her children.
Does anyone have story or movie, fics, novel, about talking animal and human or human lost in animal world?
>>92921100
>>92928527
This and they have the 'underdog' thing going for them. Plus there is a lot of charm to see a world that would be insignificant to us, yet is everything to the characters. Something as simple as a mud puddle nearly killing a kid in Nimh is a great example, or how small animals in Mouseguard become terrifying beasts.
The idea got especially popular in the 70s, and moreson in the 80's with american tale, nimh, great mouse detective, and the rescuers.
>>92936391
>Plus there is a lot of charm to see a world that would be insignificant to us, yet is everything to the characters
I don't know, but that's what makes them cute as fuck to me.
>>92932461
>tfw you will never again experience the pre-memetic era
Our world is changing in ways we cannot comprehend, nor grasp the consequences of. It's mad, it's wondrous, and above all, tragically terrifying.
Best mice
>>92937594
This was my jam for one wonderful summer until school started again and the series would always start just as I had to go to school.
>>92927344
Rats in the wild prey on mice, and are 3 times as big. So they're they obvious choice of villains in stories with mice protagonists.
It might also be derived from the way we use the animals to describe different types of people.
>A 'rat' = a sneaky, untrustworthy person who makes schemes.
>A 'mouse' = a timid, quiet and/or shy person. .
It depends...are they skilled in the ways of warfare?
>the mice are the best part of Beatriz Overseer
>they all either die painfully or are dudes
Sometimes I wonder why I still keep tabs on it.
>>92940208
>Mice are prime cannon fodder material
This is FACT
>>92940773
That's hell a true. Out of all the animal species you can have in any work of fiction mice and rats are the most disposable. not sure why though
>>92940821
It's a matter of numbers, I guess. Of course you could also use other numerous animals like ants or bees, but they're barely used in comic/toon media.
>>92940208
Is that Charles de Girl from Valiant
>>92940913
Nah, it's Unnamed Mouse Assassin.
Also, thank you.
>>92939388
Shit that is cute. Is that from anywhere or just random art?
>>92921789
spbp
No love for best mouse?
Beatrix Potter mice are nice too, though so seldom given names.
Are there any rat protagonists?
>>92943388
There's Remy from Ratatouille, and Roddy St. James from Flushed Away. I cheated a bit and looked up the educational List of Fictional Rodents on Wikipedia, though, so anything from obscure European stuff probably passed me by.
>>92943388
mais oui
Looking up Tiny Toons characters with safe search off was a mistake.
>>92943670
One and the same.
Not /co/ but I love the art style, environment and story of Ghost of a Tale...A shame they delayed its launch. Also the creator is an ex-animator, so I guess it counts.
>>92921789
It should be noted that inspects are also an option for tiny world, but they live by themselves in their nest, have a queen, and have an outcast MC. This prevents them from being used a lot.
>>92944056
>Ghost of a Tale
Seems to be in EA though. Looks kinda cool, what is it supposed to become?
My favorite animals are armadillos and opossums but they don't get much representation in cartoons
I like cartoon kangaroos a lot though. They look much cuddlier than IRL kangaroos
>>92925711
rodents are most of the times the best waifurs
>>92928135
this rises my rat
>>92945010
There's some kind of opossum revival going on, between Poppy O'Possum and Habits getting popular. Armadillos are still considered leprosy carriers and hick meat, though, at least for now.
>>92944474
It's like a Redwall with sneak gameplay mechanics. Think of it as a Metal Gear with cute critters, without shooting and with giant crabs instead of giant mechs. I played the demo and I can't wait for the game to launch full.
>>92937594
back when cartoons where radicool
>>92942239
who is she?
>>92942390
cute!
>>92937594
For some reason this was hugely popular in Finland and still has cult status
>>92945283
>Redwall
Never read that stuff. That said I just saw that it said action-RPG on there somewhere.
I'll just put this on the list of stuff to wait for.
>>92945473
>who is she?
Half of the bear/mouse duo Ernest and Celestine, from a bunch of french language children's books.
There was a movie a couple of years ago that was cute AF, but I really like the original illustrations.
>>92930103
Speaking of tezuka, does anyone have any links to his semi-furry mangas?
>>92943891
Gr8 comic.I stopped reading it for now because I can only read so many things simultaneously.
Which mouse is the cutest?
>>92947541
>it's totally not a variation of "which girl is best?"
>>92946825
what is "semi-furry"?
>>92947753
cute and best is not the same, Hazel is cute, the white one in Basil is the slutier
>>92947753
Boy mice can be cute too.
>>92947946
Who is Hazel?
>>92941290
That's by Chochi. He drawfags for /co/ threads like Poppy or Out of Placers every now and then until he's banned because mods seem to have a hateboner for him.
>>92948601
shit, I mean Mrs. Brisby, sorry anon
>>92945261
Habits is dead, though. It's legacy is what's probably the worse /trash/ general to have ever been conceived. And it's not even about the comic.
>>92948601
>>92949315
Btw , Hazel is the fanmade name for that squirrel in The Sword in the Stone, right?
>>92929017
I didn't know there was a series. The movie was perfect
>>92949376
well, this is what co anons said...
>>92949334
Give Habits a little credit, there's been an update recently enough. It'll never get a follow-up, but at least the fans got thrown a bone.
>your favorite dead webcomic is now known for drugged-up fetishists sharing their dead-end lives on a hidden imageboard
>>92949584
It updated? Nice, didn't know.
Why then do you say it will never get a follow up, though?
>>92947805
Like, the creatures look like animals but they are something completely different... like aliens, or some shit.
>>92949608
Cynicism from the long wait, honestly. I'd love to be proven wrong.
>>92949647
FACT: Rats are cuter than mice
mice are nice
mice and kids stuff just never goes away.
>>92951631
I loved that book as a kid
>>92951499
glitch is best tsundere mouse
>>92951915
>>92952045
>>92952083
>>92952108
She wants gadgets dick so hard
>>92949271
sounds like they made that piece of shit moral fag minfag a janitor, as he would be the only asshole on here that would ban Chochi
Gadget is a shit mouse.
>pink skin instead of fur
>fucking human hair
Pure garbage.
best mouse
who /tg/ here? why were the kamigawa rats so lewd?
>>92953823
>>92953823
>>92953945
Rats are just inherently lewd.
Is there a list of comics with mouse characters?
>>92934021
Maybe it's how vulnerable she is during that scene?
>>92951631
>>92951778
read the books, saw the movies.
good fuckin times
>>92957635
this anon gets it.
she'd been captured. during a mission to save her kids. there's a cat stalking her. the humans who have her captured are the ones that are going to destroy her home. she gets injured.
this is the parallel to what her husband and the rats had to go through to escape NIMH. it's also a Don Bluth movie. this is one of the most important scenes in movie because when she's cut, the audience sees that she's mortal. death is real and she is just a mouse and a single mom.
Anyone read Mice Templar?
>>92921100
What kind of magic user category does she fall under?
Enchanter?
>>92949714
Who just goes off to fuck while their friends are waiting for them?
>>92942239
From the thumbnail it looks like she's holding a clump of dripping intestines
>>92951499
YOU FORGOT YOUR SHOES YOU DUMBASS
>>92953807
>I never played the game but I'm such a fan of the character
>>92961151
Planning to, in the future.
>>92961151
I did. The plot is good, except for the main character, unfortunately, but the art is pretty bad.
>>92921100
Mice are pretty archetypal characters. Small and harmless, have to use stealth and skill to get what they want and somewhat sympathetic because all they want is food, but annoying because they will take as much as they can get with no concern for others. Very human, now that I think about it.
>>92937594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-IIhSRO_AM
>>92964821
Modo was so fucking OP.
His attack was also a speed boost, so you could use it to obliterate anyone (it was super strong, one-shotting everyone before any upgrades) or just run away.
>>92964887
Vinnie could pull off some crazy shit, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0hRGhtebIk
>>92965099
Vinnie started off very slow IIRC. He had super fast acceleration, but very low top speed.
Who /mouseguard/ here?
>>92943891
Scurry has mice characters with various traits from eager naive to treacherous, avoiding the usual stereotypes.
The mouse from Beautiful Darkness was also an interesting take
>>92965607
>Spy mouse best snake snack
i took one of those animation master classes don bluth does occasionally, and he specialized and preferred drawing mice specifically over stuff like humans because, in his words: "everyone knows how a human moves, but no one knows how a mouse moves"
which is blatant bullshit but its why most of his work has had mice and dinosaurs in them and why everything moves awkwardly
>>92953823
I think I still have that card, somewhere.
>yfw there will never be a decent film or animated series of Redwall
>>92967030
>5/4
>Ninjutsu
>REGENERATE
It's a fucking fanboy wetdream.
>>92967030
>Ink Eyes, Servant of Oni
>abilities have nothing to do with demon cards making her an ill-fit for a kamigawa demon deck since most of those cards care about demons
I always hate that shit.
>>92967124
I had her in a black/blue ninja deck. Shit was fun yo.
>>92967088
Unfortunately you cannot reproduce Redwall even half-faithfully without far more blood and death than is normal for cartoon TV series.
see you all in /trash/'s mouse monday