Why is he such a baby?

>>92920733

Gems have no gender you Farquaad

He's only as old as he thinks/feels he is.

>>92920733
>Is in touch with is feelings
>Wares his emotions on his sleeve
>"Ugh, what a fucken lists"

Some people express their emotions I healthy ways, some people do what you do and just punch walls like a fuck boi

>>92920733
he's older than aang from atla, but he acts like a whiny 7 year old

>>92920883
Overaction is not healthy.

>>92920883
>crying every day is healthy XDD
what a faggot

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>>92920883
Not every man is a spastic effeminate numale like (you)

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>>92920733
Better question is, why don't Connie just rape him?

>>92920983
Because she loves him.
She would never rape the gem she loves.

>>92920983

Because she's scared that it will ruin their relationship. Same with Lapis.

However, the two will eventually lose it and rape him anyways.

>>92920733
He's a sheltered homeschool/unschool student.

>>92920733
Because 14 year old boys are whiny cunts.

>>92920883
>Is in touch with is feelings
No one in Steven Universe is in touch with their feelings.
They can't even control them. Even the Diamonds.

>>92920883
Define healthy.
Most 14 year old boys would get the shit kicked out of them by their peers if they acted like this.

>>92922331
This

>>92922331
/thread

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>was willing to sacrifice himself and face his death like a man
>LOL WHAT A FAG I CANT BELIEVE HE CRIES

Most of you faggots would run away screaming if you were in his position.

>>92922429
NAH AH I'm like so tough and I fuck hookers ever week no one can fuck with me!

>>92922429
Not if we know the fact of being an alien hybrid grants powers unobtainable by human means.
If we're our regular, powerless selves, probably.

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>>92920952
Literally this. I have seen men cry and women but not as much as Steven does. It is just unreasonably over the top that I just roll my eyes. Like they just make Steven cry for "Le sad drama feels :(" to seem smart and deep. When it is really just a over used trope that they use to excuse actual good writing.

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>>92922386
Yes anon I'm sure the bullies who batter someone for crying are very emotionally healthy people.

>>92920983
Not possible.
If they ever try sex, they would just fuse
>fusion is the ultimate cock block.

>>92922497

No, Steven knew there was no way he could fight back. He knew the diamonds would probably kill him. Most of the people in this thread would hide like little bitches.

>>92922497
What the fuck does that got to do with anything?
Doesn't matter that he has super powers.
Powers or not the kid deals with some hard shit.
And having super powers don't change the shit things that happen to him.

>>92920983
>giving Connie your mother's sword
>not just manning up to use BOTH sword and shield
>become useless when fighter gone because you put all your stats in tank

I don't give a fuck if they did that to make Connie useful they should have said. "Yeah maybe we should let Steven learn how to fight because he's not gonna be with a fighter all the time and he wouldn't be able to talk his way out of everything"

>>92922517
Irrelevant. They're still bullies and he would still get his ass kicked for crying in public so much.
This show isn't about mental health experts discussing proper teen behavior.

>>92922386
if i saw some guy trying to do that i will kick his ass fuck asshats like that

>>92922540
Personally, with those powers it would be optimal to find and use a destabiliser.
You can't heal yourself if you're dead, fried alive by electrocution.

>>92922584
Why are 12 year olds allowed on here?

>>92920733
A better question is "Are the writers delibratley making him extra punchable?"

Because I swear every episode this last bomb turned him into more of an insufferable little twerp. Not just he crying, but the constant whining, and yelling, and acting like total prick.

>>92922574
Pearl did teach him how to fight - It's just that she trained Connie harder. Pearl treated Connie like she was Stevens pearl. But she still trained Steven to fight.

Steven is just a pussy irl. It's really no surprise that most of the male characters in SU are effeminate manchildren lacking testosterone.

>>92922610
fuck off idiot what are you going to go do next fuck with some kids on the playground or something is school out already

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>>92922582
What are you even talking about anymore?
Most of the characters in SU have emotional problems.
The gems are all war vets who saw many of their kind die.
And Steven is burdened with dealing with the after affects of the war and shit his family did.
Their not emotionally healthy but that's the point its what makes it interesting.
Pearl is the best writing character on the show on she is beyond fucked in the head. But I like that because its interesting.

>>92922661
Again why are 12 year olds allowed on this board.

>>92922599

and he was guarded by 2 gems that were stronger than he was.

>>92922670
SU is not a psychologist roundtable on adolescent behavior.
Get over it.

>>92922670
>point its what makes it interesting.
It makes the gems interesting. It makes Steven a twat.

>>92920733
The right question would be: why rebecca hates character development so much to the point of making the main character eternally seven?

>>92922633
>Not just he crying, but the constant whining, and yelling, and acting like total prick.
Besides the crying and yelling being completely justified.
Why is he being a dick again?

>>92922727
why does this only apply to the gems and not Steven?

>>92922711
Oh. Well I'm not here to defend him or his actions.
If /co/ hates, /co/ hates him. Why try to change that?

>>92922331
This, Steven never really had anyone to bully him when he was weird or overly emotional. Also remember that he grew up with three aliens, all of whom are extremely emotional in the wake of the death of their friend/mother/6,000 year love interest. It's honestly a miracle Steven came out this functional

>>92922715
What are you even talking about?

>>92920733
Sugar should have made Steven 11 honestly making him 14 is just fucking retarded.

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>>92920733
They're trying to push an ideology that it's okay for boys to be fat, passive crybabies.

>>92922654
It's not just that, the whole idea is that Connie is the hitter while Steven the shield. This is an ineffectively way to fight if one is missing or hurt.
Pearl let her emotions get the better of her in making Connie like her, Rose was as much of a fighter as much as a protector.

>>92922789
Its part of the plot why does nobody get this?
He is emotionally stunted.
Its a character flaw.

>>92922517
No anon its literally male instinct to want to beat up men who look like weaklings thats why the most common bullied males are obviously weak looking ones or doormats. This stems from our days are apes where male apes would beat the shit out of other male apes to asser their dominance in the pack, the alpha male of the tribe was usually the most psychopathic and strongest male in the pack sound familiar to you.

>>92922331
This.

He's maturing fairly well considering the shit he's been expected to deal with in a relatively short amount of time. Remember, until Arrival he didn't even know about the war or the fact the CGs are aliens.

>>92922830
Steven acted more mature the moment he aged himself to 14 meaning he isnt emotionally stunted hes literally a child.

>>92922836
>Bullies are atavistic throwbacks to when we were damn dirty apes!
That... really doesn't make a good case for them.

Tell me anon, are you one of those /fit/fags who eats paleo too?

>>92922741
Because in the trial, despite Zircon telling him what to do, even going so far as to tell him if he fucks up she's sharing his punishment, he keeps on blabbing about shit he doesn't know about. For someone that wants to make peace, he's really going out of his way to screw others over.

>>92922789
Wasn't he 12 at the beginning and is 14 now? At least that's how I understood it, maybe the birthday episodes prove me wrong.

>>92922933
He wanted to accept his punishment by himself he even said for Lars to be let free.
He didn't want Zircon to be hurt either but homeworld rules are fucked up so of courses that didn't work.

>>92922876
He's maturing fairly well considering he's being raised by three overly dramatic lesbian moms with more hang-ups than a call center.

>>92922975
He was around 11 to 12 at the start of the show yes.

>>92922932
He's explaining why it happens you dingus, not justifying it. You act like humans aren't damn dirty apes anymore, when we are.

>>92920883
Theres a difference between healty displays of emotion and crying like a little bitch at every little thing.

>>92920733
He's been coddled and told he's special all his life and is in desperate need of a masculine authority figure.
I was really hopping uncle Carl would rub off on him a little considering how much interest Steven showed in him, but that's yet to happen and I doubt it ever will.

If steven really has the age his mind finds itself, the only way he might hit puberty is if someone rapes him. Who is going to do the deed?

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>>92922498

>>92922932
>atavistic
No anon bullying weaklings is male instinct, even 5 year old boys will bully if they arent taught any better.

>>92923041
All the more reason to distance are selfs from apes as much as we can and advance are specials were brain is more important then strength.

>>92923094
You really think we're going to get off this miserable planet, don't you?

>>92922753
Gems have hundreds of years of baggage, with their own means of trying to cope, and slowly improve. Steven's emotions are diluted with teenage angst, and seems to be getting worse.

Garnet is the stoic mom who doesnt lets bad things happen to you to learn from your mistakes.

Pearl is the overprotective mom who constantly embarasses you.

Amy is your older sister who corrupts you.

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>>92923086
Lapis of course she'll rape the maturity right out of him.

>>92923004
And yet when it gets too much, he starts crying. Pregnant women cry less often than him, and they know they cry over dumb shit.

>>92923118
Oh look at Mr pessimistic.
Not too long ago we lived in mud fucking houses.
Now space travel is just on the horizon.

>>92922806
Just this

This show is literally produced by a bunch of lezbo dykes and peeps expect them to accurately portray male characters.
Not gonna happen.

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>>92923149
>Steven is put on trial and this could lead to his death
Pfffffff why is he crying the big baby.

>>92923094
These are instincts anon, they are a higher level of cognitive control than even your fucking emotions. Our instinct to fuck goes all the way back to 400 million years ago.

>>92920883
There's a difference in being in touch with your feelings, and being controlled by your feelings

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>>92920733
>another anon complains about the show without even watching it
He hasn't aged since he was 8 you dipshit

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>>92923231
But anon I need a reason to shitpost!

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>>92923168
>fashioning resources already on the surface of the planet into more refined structures and substances
>the same as traversing distances that take fucking light centuries to get to
We can barely get out of orbit without blowing up.

>>92923217
Steven literally acts like a normal male child an impulsive idiot that thinks with their feels rather than rational brain. His constant crying is weird because not even female children have the leve l of empathy to understand what Steven goes through meaning Steven has more empathy than a normal child meaning hes a natural born pussy.

>>92920883
And some realize crying solves nothing and keep going.

At this point Steven bawling is like reading a military action book, and the author goes into fetishistic detail about the size, range, and killing power of a gun: After the umteenth time it gets predictable and boring.

If you want to show someone as nearing the breaking point, use stuff like crying sparingly. It adds weight to seeing them break down and actually makes them sympathetic when they finally do shed tears. When you do it too damn often it gets annoying and just makes them look like some pampered brat.

>>92923231
>He hasn't aged since he was 8
And it's getting awful goddamned annoying.

If my son quit aging at the age of 8, (emotionally), I would be looking to drown him by the age of 13.

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>>92923200
He didn't cry during the trial you dink, he made an ass of himself.

>>92923004
It's not even his punishment though, it was his mothers' but he FEELS that it was his fault/guilt because someone else had to die for him to live. Yes feeling down that someone else had to go for you to stay is god awful but Steven is taking to manifest destiny levels of guilt.
>"Waaaaah my mother killed pink D punish me because I feel bad for Blue D"
Good god that was annoying as all hell, even more so that he doesn't even consider that if Pink D didn't bite it Earth would have been destroyed a long time ago

>>92923294
It may annoying, but that's not the point. People are bitching because he's not acting like a 14 year old

>>92922815
I believe that anytime they're fighting together they'll just be Stevonnie

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>>92922574
>Not going full double shild

>>92923299
Not that guy, but it's funny how he kept claiming he was guilty.

>>92923315
Im certain no child has the brain capacity to even blame themself for the suffering of a country let alone an entire planet. I mean I was one selfish little shit I was a kid. The fact Steven blames himself constantly is something a child doesnt do, their emotions are fleeting and change rapidly unless you molest then it stays due to way our brain works making us remember events that might kill us to stop us from going back to them.

>>92923231
So?

>>92923367
>Not using double saw-shields

>>92923350
And instead he's acting like a spoiled 4 year old.

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>>92922534

So just masturbate with whatever weird cockteris thing Stevonie has

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As someone said in a different thread, Steven cries a lot but he gets shit done. Both recent bombs were basically spearheaded by him.

Most of the people in this thread would have killed themselves already.

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>>92922429

Boy, that wasn't an "I am spartacus!" moment, they wanted everyone in that room and there was nothing that could stop them before or after he "Sacrificed", they could literally continue fighting right after the got him, not to mention that it doesn't matter wether they get him or not, homeworld was aiming at earth regardless and wasn't going to stop, becose there was no logical reason to stop, they were winning, we would they want to stop winning?

TL;DR You're wrong

>>92923389
So it makes OP's criticism completely moot

>>92923444
Nah most anons in this thread would be too mad with power as children if they had Steven's abilities. The fact Steven even consistently gives a damn about the war shows he is cognitively above a child. Child soldiers equate wars with playtime with "bad things happening if you lose".

>>92923444
What? He didn't get shit done on PURPOSE it was all him holding because he's too emotional to really do anyhting then crying when shit goes south
Crying is what saves him most of the time and he only cries when things are going wrong.

>>92922540
So instead, he'd turn himself in for a crime he had only a vague understanding of on some flawed reasoning that by handing himself over to the Diamonds, they, with their nigh limitless power and no real inhibition, would leave Earth alone despite nothing stopping them?

At least Neo had a trump card with dealing with the Machines in the Matrix. Steven's got no leverage yet he expects things to turn out okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GP5_NQ_LEs

>>92920733
He has to grow up eventually.

Yugo and Finn did.

Goku didn't because he's too fucking strong so he gets to be a spastic child forever.

>>92923560
Precisely.

>>92923200

I'd be okay with the crying if he wasn't such a fucking moron.

"I want to know what she thinks we're going to do so I can make it worse."

"Punish me, but let this human I clearly care for go!"

Was totally expecting them to execute Lars on the spot just to spite him.

>>92923231
If the writers wanted to, they could easily have not included that plot point and not made him a complete retard to boot. It's still comes back to the writing.

>>92923315
>Caring for other people is dumb, nothing personnel kid

>He doesn't even consider that if Pink D didn't bite it Earth would have been destroyed a long time ago
He has considered these things. His stance is 'do not kill'. It's not something we haven't seen in comics and cartoons before. He's just more naively optimistic about it. You know...one of his well established character traits.

Don't try to kill Achilles by aiming at the knees. Hit the ankles. The show is incredibly mood-deaf, mostly outside of its 'loss' moments, with bad pacing and timing. Which makes sense given its creators.

>>92923693
Steven could have just let Aqua kidnapped the humans then have the gems build a ship to break into the zoo to rescue them.

>>92923613
>Yugo

Yugo is the character Steven WISHED he was.

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>>92923755
>His stance is 'do not kill'. It's not something we haven't seen in comics and cartoons before.

>>92923750
>If the writers wanted to, they could easily have not included that plot point
And yet these idiots fixate on it and think his whole character is inexcusably bad because of it

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>>92923572
What are you even talking about?

>>92923871
>And yet these idiots fixate on it and think his whole character is inexcusably bad because of it
You didn't read the thread at all did you anon?

>>92923862
Batman may not kill, but he does leave people injured and sometimes crippled. Steven tries to solve every conflict peacefully no matter how high the stakes are.

>>92923941
Steven was trying to fight Topaz.

>>92923572
That's the problem. Rather than fixing the problem, trying to stop the [bad thing] from happening, he just starts crying.

>Yugo would start throwing portals to at the very least move [bad thing] away
>Finn would do something real stupid or real smart depending on how old he was when facing [bad thing] but wouldn't cry.

Crying has been used to signify total defeat, that the chracter feels there is nothing they can do. When you have them use that all the friggin time it loses the impact of 'lost all hope' and becomes more 'mommy I wanna go home'.

>>92923904
I'm not addressing the crying complaint, just the "How is he 14? REEEEEE" fags like OP who keep bringing it up

>>92923989
Anyone has that story of Steven crying when Aku's forces comes to pick him up as a slave?

Because despite what teenagers think adults still see them as children.

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>>92924013
Why would you want that?

>>92923989
Steven can handle beating up corrupted gems, hes cant handle a fucking intergalactic civilization. The gem war is probably only 0.0000005% of gem military force.

>>92924077
Because it's fun!

>>92923989
Except, that's literally never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heRh6o6lfew

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>>92924081
>1 gem and a fusion that aren't even looking for him
>Fucking intergalactic civilization

>>92924111
>Steven has literally never given up and started crying while going on a self flagellating tirade

>>92924158
Now see? That worked. Because Vegeta was shown that despite everything he did, all that he fought for, all that he sacrificed, the goal he sought for so long stayed so very, VERY far out of reach. And even then he didn't stop until the very end! Fuck even Gohan would go on longer before crying.

>>92920883

Oh no you fucking don't. You get right the fuck out with that nonsense.

Healthy displays of emotion are great, and in a show, it's even better to really hit those important notes. But Steven and the crew crying bitch tears over every emotional slight and moment of discomfort is not only obnoxious, it's insulting.

I don't flinch when I see a man or male character cry. It's great the right moments - because you know they've been brought low by the situation around them.

But Steven and his cryjutsu crew? It makes them out like they're soft, emotionally unstable shits. One of their powers MAKES OTHER PEOPLE CRY FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

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>>92920883

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>>92924291
Except Steven didn't give up.

He's honestly 10x more man then that fucking pussy Vegeta.

>>92920983
She has too much competition, when pit against such xenos like Lapis and Pearl a normal human shouldn't just join in but wait for them to destroy themselves

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>>92924456

>>92920886
Because he stopped aging at age 8. Why does everyone forget this?

>>92923294
Steven isn’t human. He might take millenia to from 8 to adulthood.

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>>92924456
Aaaaaand you just went full potato.

>>92923464
No it's not, considering how proud Rebecca is about how much personal growth Steven has "gotten" over the show

Let's just name the show Steven Wahwahverse

Should steven remain a cry baby or should all boy characters turn out manly in the end?

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>>92924516
And yet we're 5 seasons in. By this point, most series would be nearing the end of Initiation. Instead Steven seems to rollback again and again, in worst cases all the way back to Refusal

>>92922374

I mean it's "super princess peach the cartoon"

of course it's retarded emotionally

>>92923444

>Most of the people in this thread would have killed themselves already.

Yeah, just like Steven saying "I'm rose, punish me" every fucking time in the whole judge chapter. At least Zircon was neutral enough to literally save his ass in the episode

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>>92924631

>wahhhh
>muh planet

Fuck Vegeta. Akira hates him for a reason.

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>this entire thread
Holy fuck /co/tv/pol/, no need to be so autistic over a cartoon character.

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>In this thread: A bunch of /co/ autists pretend that a boy in a world where:
>a) his mom murdered at least one person and led a large scale war for hundreds of years
>b) his father is still dealing with her loss and his "moms" all have their own emotional scars and alien perspectives
>c) literal alien invasions and kidnappings occur
>d) he's almost died several times
>e) in a weird way, he's his own mom (thanks Sigmund)

>wouldn't have some raw emotions constantly at the surface

Most people go through their lives with maybe a 10th of the existential and emotional crises that Steven has dealt with by the age of 14.

All of his powers are emotion based too, so he can't shut them off like most guys try to do.

>>92924875
Doesn't change that Akira gave him more development in a single arc than Steven in 5 seasons.

>>92924918
And yet in 5 seasons he still hasn't dealt with those issues? Even Inuyasha isn't that slow.

>>92920733
>theyve never met a homeschooled teen before

>>92924918
>>a) his mom murdered at least one person and led a large scale war for hundreds of years
>>b) his father is still dealing with her loss and his "moms" all have their own emotional scars and alien perspectives
>>c) literal alien invasions and kidnappings occur
>>d) he's almost died several times

Aside from the alien stuff has happened to me

>>92925031

Fuck man, I was homeschooled and I learned to repress that shit.

>>92924984
Do you not watch the show?

For one thing, it's only really been 4 seasons (the fifth just started)

The other thing is that each season adds more emotional shit for him to deal with. He didn't learn his mom shattered other gems until fairly recently. He also didn't have to deal with his father (and almost friends) being abducted until just before the current arc. More stuff is piled on him pretty consistently. He started the show with some general feelings of inadequacy because of his mom, everything else I mentioned was added over time.

Finally, please don't use Japanese shows for your emotional standards. It's the same island that spawned a culture so focused on self-suppression and external appearances that they can barely get people to fuck anymore.

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>>92924918

But he was a wuss way before any of that and hasn't change much since then

>>92925053
Sucks man, but lemme ask you this... did you shut it down and walk away? Bury it deep, shut off your emotions and move on with your life?

Because Steven literally can't try to do that without his powers going haywire, or being unable to fuse properly.

>>92925126

He didn't even know how his powers worked when the show started, that's a bullshit excuse.

>>92925126
I learned that problems won't go away but crying won't help either. The best you can do is be strong and grow from it and move on.

>>92925173
Hard to move on from things that keep invading your doorstep though.

Especially when you've had to put some of them down.

>>92925113
it Baffles me how anyone can say Steven from season 1 is no different then season 4 Steven.
Steven now takes charge of things gets pissed at the gems for lying to him feels responsible for the things his mother did.
Wants to actively help his friends rather then just act like its all cool.
Takes what he does seriously and cares about hi friends even more then himself.

>>92920883
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>>92925090
>For one thing, it's only been 4 seasons
You say that like it's significantly better.
DBZ WITH the filler is faster in character development.
>The other thing is that each season adds more emotional shit for him to deal with.
Which is completely pointless to do when they have the same resolution. TALKING CALMLY ABOUT THINGS THAN CRYING AND FAMILY GUILT. Anything not Homeworld is pointlessly extended.

>It's the same island that spawned a culture so focused on self-suppression and external appearances that they can barely get people to fuck anymore.

Anime's 70% the reason why your lesbian and femboys cartoon even has a semblance of nuance you fuck.

>>92925222

He seems to fluctuate so wildly it's hard to tell. Yeah, he's more emotionally mature, but then he still makes dumb as shit mistakes like getting stuck in a log while Connie is kidnapped or trying to get himself killed/tortured by the diamonds.

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>>92925301
>>92925308
Just explain this meme to me already.
I just want to know what this means.

>>92925222
That was Steven by the 2nd half of Season 2.
The Steven now is a bipolar lunatic who randomly decides to be a suicidal doormat like the trial and whenever the gems bicker.

>>92925090
>Do you not watch the show?
I could ask the same of you.
By season 3 he's already had half that shit heaped on him, and has dealt with it, yet he hasn't changed one iota. Fuck by season 3 he seems to mature for the better, but by 4 he's a trainwreck again. Not even a little bit more maturity carries over. He learns something new? He's back to his old self. Most other shows and series would have the protagonist taking this new knowledge with a different approach, or at least process it differently.

>The other thing is that each season adds more emotional shit for him to deal with.
Yet he doesn't apply anything he has learned to it. When he has to deal with it, he acts like everything that has happened before never occurred, and he falls back on sobbing and yelling.

>Finally, please don't use Japanese shows for your emotional standards.
I wouldn't if there were any Western series that moved at SU's snail pace.

>>92925313
He probably menstruates every month too.

>>92920733
He is mentally retarded and is being raised by SJWs.

>>92923200
>bwaaah the ice cream sandwiches I like are gone REEEEEE
Just because sometimes his crying was justified doesn't make the million other times he cried were justified.

>>92925359

tl;dr Douchebag character died, got powers of a magical lion, one of which is making portals by roaring

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>>92925313
>like getting stuck in a log while Connie is kidnapped
Why does everyone take that scene so seriously? it was played for a laugh you know a fat joke? it was meant to be funny.
>or trying to get himself killed/tortured by the diamonds.
He wanted to serve his punishment for his moms crimes because he hoped it would mean homeworld would leave Earth alone.
Was it a smart plan? no not really it was done out of emotion Steven wanted to protect his loved ones above all else and thought this was the best way to make sure they were safe.

>>92925216
Well yeah my mom's ex lover kept coming by and being a pain but it's just something you had to deal with.

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>>92925449
>Why does everyone take that scene so seriously? it was played for a laugh you know a fat joke? it was meant to be funny.

Oh yes, a funny joke about being fat as his girlfriend and all of his other friends are literally abducted by aliens. Appropriate.

>>92925359
/co/ made a SU fans snap so he revealed his power level

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>>92920883
>"Ugh, what a fucken lists"

Anybody know what this means?

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>>92925415
My god people why do you obsess about this one joke from the first ep?
It was a joke as clear as day it was played for comedy Steven got upset about ice cream and even buried an ice cream wrapper because it was funny.
I don't care if you found it funny or not but damn why is it so hard for you lot to understand it was not meant to be taken seriously?

>>92925449
>it was meant to be funny
steven being unable to save his friend because he got his fat ass stuck in a log is hilarious

>>92925480
It is still a kid show anon it cant go full grim dark so you got to sprinkle comedy in and it didn't take away from the scene.

Almost all 14 year olds are a mess. It takes years of practice, patience, and wisdom to master emotions for most people. So there is probably no real "normal" for people at that age. There's probably only statistically likely to or not likely to, is this or that way for a certain group in this or that place, etc. Just too many factors.

>>92925514
>My god people why do you obsess about this one joke from the first ep?
Because the introduction to his character was him having a legitimate autistic/asperger meltdown to the extent that the shop workers were concerned for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3eZia96N7c

>>92925536
Well I'm glad you agree with me.

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>>92925514

>My god people why do you obsess about this one joke from the first ep?

The joke never stopped

>>92925449
>it was meant to be funny.
Then the writers need to go back to writing 101 because you don't derail a high tension situation like that. It fits as well as the damn wonton jokes in the nuGhostbusters movie.

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>>92925561

>>92925514
He wasn't complaining about that scene in particular, he was making a point on how the show overuses crying in general. I don't care if the creator finds it funny or not, crying in this series is seriously overused and it makes it all feel cheap whether it's played seriously or not.

>>92925580
it's funny in a pathetic "how the fuck is this on the air" sort of way

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>>92925391
This is the future of Steven. This is the person he will grow up to be.

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>>92925579
And its a joke.
Its a cartoon anon....

>>92925561
Oh yea.
The totally not grimdark plot twist of Pearl doing what's symbolism for rape under false pretenses of intercourse by Garnet's standards of fusion.
Or Amethyst breaking an emotionally sensitive man over his dead wife.

>>92925561

Nigga even george lucas wasn't so blind with its tone shifts

>>92920733
He was raised by 3 women and manchild.

>>92920883
Having an emotional breakdown every episode doesn't make him "in touch" with his feelings. If anything it only shows that he has poor control over them.

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>>92925609
>Its a cartoon anon
Oh really? I hadn't noticed
>>92925627
I love how his father got a million dollars and nothing changed. He went on a vacation and bought a bought and then it just stopped.

Once a loser always a loser I guess

>>92920952
It is, if you have chronic depression.
At least is more healthier than waifuing.

>>92925609

>Its just a cartoon brah!

Cartoons can be bad anon

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>>92925608
>This is the future of Steven. This is the person he will grow up to be.
inb4 that one part of his life in his 30s where he manifests as something non repulsive

>>92925646
He is going to save his money until the gems fuck up something and he ends paying for their mess.

>>92925561
>Can only be lighthearted comedy or total grimdark

Oh is that what Avatar was by Book 2? Grimdark?

>>92924752
So it's like The Simpsons where shit that happens in each episode rarely if ever cause any lasting change in subsequent episodes?

>>92925646
Well they could easily afford Korea.
But the way they montaged it, it could have been "oh, Greg managed to find a cheap way to Korea" unspoken lampshading. So Laura just gave us and made it a completely pointless twist.

>>92920944
redit, tumblr, /pol/, and /r9k/ disagree with you.
by screaming, calling you a racist/cuck, shitting themselves, and crawling back to the corner of their safespace/basement and sobbing.

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Daily reminder that Connie is the only decent character on this show and in a few years will be off to med school with a full ride and will get pounded by chads every night having the time of her life while Steven is still at home watching a show about crying fruit while crying and being fat

>>92922331
He's also raised by three lesbians with emotional/mental issues instead of his deadbeat pussywhipped father while living in a shitty sticksville town, meaning he has like no positive male role models in his life to teach him how to actually be a man his age.

>>92920883
Not even my 9 years old sister cries that much

>>92925391
>SJW
Pearl is almost /pol/ tier in what she believes in.

>>92925724
It wouldn't be a problem if it didn't pretend to have lasting change and go beyond the status quo. It has the same problem as adventure time.

>>92925755
Yep, it's basically the same as if he won a contest for a free trip to korea. Instead he got a million dollars from writing that song we never knew about for that commercial we never saw and hey now he can do it.

So yeah it's not as shallow as the writing could be but the water barely hits our ankles

>>92925759
Steven will turn into a douche when hes a teen and be a playa like his dad. Connie is just a little crush.

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>>92925788
>pearl
>/pol/ tier
>she's a cuck

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>>92925830
>steven
>every growing up
The little shit has been seven years old for half his life and still won't grow despite all the shit going on in the show.
He's not growing, ever.

>>92922670
>And Steven is burdened with dealing with the after affects of the war and shit his family did.
Yeah remember when two of his moms were fighting each other? Steven just ran out of the room and bawled his eyes out until they stopped

>>92922789
They wanted Steven to be post puberty to emphasize how much of a big fucking baby he is

>>92922386
>I think alot of things have changed since we were in highschool, anon.
>I graduated 5 to 6 years ago, and my sister who graduated 2 years ago, said that their was little to no bullying most of the time.

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>>92925759
>connie hears all the stories of steven's adventures
>finds out she can fuse with him
>all the cool stories she read about she can actually experience
>starts to train with steven
>leans how to fight with him
>excited to one day participate in these adventures
>the time comes
>she holds her own against topaz
>asks steven to fuse with her
>he's too busy crying to fuse
>tries to get him to focus
>he's too far into his asperger meltdown to even notice her
>at one point he gets his obese body stuck in a log and you finally get captured
Any romantic feelings Connie could have had for steven are gone. You don't come back from fuck ups that bad. He's always going to be the mentally unstable childhood friend to her.

>>92923299
>>92923376
Yeah that was fucking retarded of him to keep shouting "I'M ROSE QUARTZ I SHATTERED PINK DIAMOND I AM GUILTY" the whole fucking time. Also don't forget that it's a WAR crime and not a regular crime even though that's not what a war crime is.

>>92925918
I mean it just seemed obvious sugar was going for the christ imagery. But instead it just made him look like an idiot.

>>92925590
>you don't derail a high tension situation like that.
What shitty writing school is forcing this meme on its students, and why do they have so many students?

>>92920733

1.) because he's sheltered

2.) because he hasn't aged in almost 6 years

>>92925916
Steven should have been a girl.

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>>92925724
No, because it has arcs where the protagonists have to face a trial, and come out changed. Only instead of changing with everyone else, Steven reverts back.

>Pearl comes to terms with Rose being gone, Rose becoming Steven, and Rose's relationship with Greg
>Amethyst deals with her shortcomings, literally and figuratively piecemeal by beating/getting beaten and coming out changed mentally and physically
>Garnet reaffirms the bond of her fusion and how it strengthens her to help Ruby and Sapphire as much as she helps others
>Greg deals with the fact he has a super alien hybrid son that he can't raise like a conventional child, but still tries his damnedest when his son comes for his help and advice.
>Connie goes from shy bookworm to confident fencer, ditching her glasses, and tying her hair up for combat
>Lars faced his fear and went from conceited douche bag to bro-tier
>Peridot has come to terms with her defection and change in size, embracing the primitive culture and lifestyle of earth the same way a castaway accepts their exile on the deserted isle.
>Lapis eventually is able to see the beauty of Earth and overcomes her disdain for one of her captors to at least find some common ground.

>Steven hasn't even changed his shirt size.

>>92925960
I mean he has literally no masculine qualities and every fusion he creates ends up looking 100% female so he might as well be

>>92923444
>Steven cries a lot but he gets shit done
Barely gets shit done though, his threats either forfeit, get worn down by somebody else, or get fucked by themselves. And most times the threats are caused by him. Fucking Peridot got more shit done than him and she's dumped into the cuckbarn these days.

>>92920733
He's been sheltered and coddled his whole life. Have you ever seen a kid with overbearing parents who's gotten sheltered their whole life? Mentally they act a lot younger and in a worse case scenario they can't function properly in society. It's pretty sad really.

>>92925949
The kind that knows you DEFUSE tension at the end, not toss the train off the rails.

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>>92925918
>Also don't forget that it's a WAR crime and not a regular crime even though that's not what a war crime is.

Just let it go dude

>>92925987
Steven is morbidly obese for a seven year old and his mental state is so bad he doesn't age physically (which sugar went to a lot of effort to show his mental state control his physical age) so yeah he's basically been abused

>>92925918
>>92925943
I think that was the point, he wanted to take responsibility for it but he didn't have a clue of what that would entail nor did he even know the common knowledge that everyone else seemed to have about her death.

>>92923989
>Rather than fixing the problem, trying to stop the [bad thing] from happening, he just starts crying
This
>Ruby and Sapphire are arguing so much they split apart
>Breakfast is ruined because their argument is starting to get out of control
>Instead of confronting it directly and telling them to cut that shit out Steven starts crying and crying and crying until the problem somehow fixes itself
That's not child protagonist stuff, that's fucking baby ass side character stuff.

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>when you're such a fat piece of shit that you can fit your face on your head twice

>>92925982
Incompetent protags allow shows to have plots.

Star Butterfly was made dumb because she is nigh omnipotent with her wand.

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>>92925994
Yeah, fuck the retard that painted this. People don't even look like that. He should kill himself, because he sure doesn't know what art is.

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>>92926041
exactly. It's kind of hard to courageous when you are a literal retard who doesn't understand what you're getting into
>>92926055
>tar Butterfly was made dumb because she is nigh omnipotent with her wand
>he says now that steven was given resurrection powers

>>92926020
How did the gems even shelter him?

They dont even understand how to parent at all.

Garnet would already know that Steven is impossible to kill if you are not superhuman.

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>>92926092
>those last two pictures on the right
what the fuck is this shit

>>92924158
See DBZ knew when to lay out the tears for people to see. This is Vegeta after he had tried everything in his power to overcome his adversary and realizes he can't do anything else. Even then he doesn't bawl his eyes out every time such a case happens, hell he even makes great efforts to improve himself after every defeat so he will never have to make such a pitiful fool out of himself again.
With Steven? Steven fucking cries about everything, and it's always maximum sissy tears at the first moment he gets. First episode he cried bitch tears because his ice cream of choice was out of production.

>>92925969

>Steven hasn't even changed his shirt size.

But he does changes shirt size They get smaller

>>92926124
Since he is a boy you would expect his crying to be due to anger not sadness.

>>92923941
So the argument is no longer him having a strict no kill policy but a no fight policy? I'm pretty sure Steven has actually fought a few times in the show though.

>>92926075

Picasso was a fucking hack and people only buy his paintings for his signature.

>>92920961
>he says whilst getting mad over a children's show on a mongolian string-weaving board

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>>92926075

>"I don't know what drama is or how it works"

>>92924456
Steven's only a man in gender identity you fucknugget

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>>92926092
>those wildly different character sizes
This will never not piss me off.

>>92920883

What is emotional control???? Which is a characteristic of being a mature adult???

>>92924516
The Rugrats have cried less than Steven and they're all literal fucking babies.

>>92926092

Lol, what if this is intentional and ends up being a plot point that his shapeshifting is out of control and he slightly changes every time he goes to sleep.

>>92920883
My fucking nephew throws a tantrum and has crying episodes like once a day and his doctor says something must be physically wrong because that isn't normal, even for an eight year old. And Steven is suppose to be eight at heart, which means he's actually got some sort of physical problem and is probably unhealthy.

>>92926171
>Having serious discussions about cartoons on a board about cartoons
I never would have guessed!

>>92926154
Exactly! Fuck thank you

Kids that age cry over confusion and frustration and anger. Steven cries like a preteen girl. Which there's nothing wrong with that except he's a 7 year old kid

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>>92926178
>I think everything is supposed to be drama and judge everything by its standards
Stop trying to make every piece of meat a pork chop. You're at a hotdog stand. Just eat the fucking hotdog.

>>92926239
Steven is 14.

>>92920883
I've seen teenagers who grew up in war-torn countries talk about their experience on TV without bawling their eyes out during the interview. Steven can't even manage it when talking about how the Big Donut is out of his favorite ice cream.

>>92926250
He's 14 years old but stopped aging before his 8th birthday

>>92926020
He's hardly fat at all anymore.

>>92926236
>spewing buzzwords
>serious discussion

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>>92926248
>Compares painting to writing
>Everything should be judged differently!

>>92926239
M8, he is almost 15.

>>92926295
>I don't agree but I have no rebuttal
>They're using buzzwords that have no meaning!
Just admit you have no counters left anon.

>>92926304
He literally has not aged a day since before his eight birthday

>>92926272
Steven's mom was a pregnant woman.
Steven is his mom.
Steven is a pregnant woman.

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>>92926272
When will Sugar make Steven chimp out?

>>92926248
>Stop trying to make every piece of meat a pork chop. You're at a hotdog stand. Just eat the fucking hotdog.
>/r9k/

>show starts
>everone complains about Steven being a goofy, annoying fat kid
>scant few years later
>Steven is an annoying Gary Stu midget who isn't even fat anymore but has replaced being inexperienced with crying and whining about his mom killing someone in a war

I hope all the schmucks who whined about Steven in 2014 are happy now

>>92920883
I punch your mom fagget

>>92920883
>Some people express their emotions I healthy ways, some people do what you do and just punch walls like a fuck boi
>steven
>healthy

>>92926331
As a teen I always wondered why kid Ben was a close minded dick who always thought he was in the right. Then I realized he was a kid he could view beings in a good or evil compass, greyness was alien to him.

An actual child minded Steven would see homeworld as the evil guys who need to be stopped to save the day. Rebecca clearly has no fucking clue how little boys think.

Even ISIS chikd soldiers are taught that infidels are evil while muslims are good.

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>>92926230

>what if this is intentional

I don't buy it

>>92920733
WHY DOES HE HAVE A PIG NOSE

WHY DO HIS NOSTRILS FACE OUTWARD

>>92926467
Cal Arts everyone

>>92924752
See this is the problem right here, Steven Universe wants its viewers to believe that it's some grand adventure told in sequential, episodic order where the change stays constant throughout. The problem is that its actual format resembles more that of endless cycle shows like Family Guy or The Simpsons where significant changes are extremely small given the length of the series and the world is reset after every episode.
It tries to use the Redwall format where viewers are thrust into a single-instance world they know little about but its population knows in full, but fails to do so correctly because it also wants to be Goosebumps where each story told has no bearing on one another save for the rare direct sequel. Think back to when the CGs begin work on dealing with The Cluster: we know it's there and that the characters are working towards that goal, but the show then concentrates on subject matter that is either unrelated or would have better served as tertiary subplot rather than central to the episode they're focused on.

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Only /co/ could be this autistic about a character from a show they don't actually watch.

>>92926543
...what is in his hand

>>92926496
Season 1 was so shit that Lapis is the very reason anyone bothered to watch this show.

>>92926543
How the fuck did that saliva not vaporize from the absence of air pressure?

>>92926568
Semen

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>>92926543
Nice assumption anon. Fact is, if people didn't give a shit about a show, they wouldn't shit all over it. They want it to be better, and so they criticize, and get angry when it does worse.

>B-but it's a kid's show
Written by adults that actually care about what they want to do. You want a show where neither the viewers nor the creators gave a shit? Watch Problem Solverz

>>92926568
His saliva. He has healing spit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNEOPshLfUM

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>>92926543

>don't actually watch

Bitch I used to make a shit ton of well received fancontent for this show before it got shit

>>92926617
>healing spit
Thats so dumb why the shit would an inorganic being secrete fluids.

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Why does this board feel the need to make a thread about Steven every few days?
I mean you can dislike Steven ok but do we really need none stop threads where you all you guys do is moan about how Steven isn't a super strong bad ass or how you could totally beat him up because your so manly?
I'm just saying its a bit overkill.

>>92926599
How the fuck did steven not get immediately crushed by the water pressure from the miles high water tower. Also, if he could survive that, how did he not get decompression sickness. He wouldn't be able to breathe that high up either.

>>92926614
The creators put a lot of work in Problem Solvers, they're just weird fuckers so the work didn't resonate with everybody. I loved the show, and really wished that /co/ could've looked past its artstyle and discussed it properly when it was new.

>>92926614
>>92926652
You guys are legitimately autistic if these things bother you

>>92920733

He was raised by (a) single mother(s)

>>92926657
Read
>>92924752

>>92926657
Because Steven Universe is a faggot and at least I want him to stop being such a little bitch.

Also, anger is fun.

>>92926657

Probably because one of the longest running problems with this show is that it's an unspoken rule every episode has to be from Steven's POV or must include Steven in some way. That's why so much of the lore goes unexplained, because he never fucking asks questions and we won't get flashbacks to time periods where he wasn't born yet.

>>92926657
There aren't a lot of other currently airing cartoons to talk about. What's left that's like SU, basically Star and Adventure Time and that's it.
This is all we have.

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>>92926671
You're taking that dolt gabbing about spit seriously and still have the gall to call me autistic?

>>92926577
>season 1: introduce all the fusions, peridot, lapis, warning from Lapis, connie, fusion with connie, Jasper,
>season 2-3: search for peridot, peridot joins, lapis fusing with Jasper, cluster, malachite, lapis joining group, corrupt gems, Jasper fight
Season 4-5: ????

Seriously what happened?

>>92925759
Sometimes I feel as if Rebecca is dumping all of the shit that Steven was supposed to go through onto Connie. I mean think about it, she was completely mundane until she exposes herself to the Gems more and more, she receives actual training and knowledge rather than being told to "sit out", is given ownership of an ancient weapon which can be used to defeat her enemies, and she's progressed from a four-eyed egghead to an outroverted swashbuckler who is willing to do feats she would have never even thought to consider if she never broke through the threshold.
Hell she even had to confront her own family about what she's doing, had to convince them that veering off of the expected path was the right choice and that they need to support the decisions in life she is making. If Connie was Rose Quartz's kid and main protagonist and Steven was the love interest/side character then I don't think people outside /sug/ would have to be spending countless hours pointing out all of these flaws in writing and continuity that we're discussing in this thread right now.

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>>92926614
>they want it to get better
>same thread about steven crying with the same image
>with the same copypasta about steven getting raped by aku

This isn't fucking su critical. this is some faggot shit

>>92926664
Lapis magic duh.

Him being gem explains why lack of oxygen didnt kill him.

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>>92926248

>"I REALLY don't know what drama is or how it works"

In an attempt to make something diferent they forgoten to make something good, its a hotdog made out of rotten pork meat plus shit for sauce, it certainly a hotdog and its VERY diferent, but its not by any means good, enjoy your shitty hotdog

>>92926736
This is 4chan. For every person that's talking about the flaws, you have 20 autistic fuckwits, you should know this by now anon.

>>92925773
It seems to me that Steven was written by women...who have no idea what it's like to be a boy, so they substituted their own childhoods, but removed dolls, clothes, crushes on pop stars, and ponies. And there you have Steven. A whiny little girl.

>>92925916
>Any romantic feelings Connie could have had for steven are gone.
Maybe if the writers weren't complete fucking faggots this is what would happen, but unfortunately for everybody they are complete fucking faggots and will make Connie forgive him/not even feel slighted by Steven's incompetence.

>>92926730
Rebecca stalls too much.

Five seasons and we see homeworld 4 FUCKING YEARS

>>92926296
It was an example of your erroneous logic.

I didn't compare a painting to writing, I compared your lack of nuance in distinguishing creator choices as directed by varying styles, genres, tones, and themes, to a similarly erroneous sentiment in paintings, that being faulting a cubist painting for not being photo-realistic.

It would be erroneous to judge flora by fauna standards, or a car by aircraft standards.

But if you're unable to grasp the concept of a metaphor, it's erroneous to judge a scene or an entire show by the standards of what constitutes drama, when that scene or show has no intention of being that.

An appropriate argument would be "The scene to me wasn't funny, and could have served better as a dramatic moment." Just as one may say that a cut of meat may have been better off prepared another way in a different dish.

But to say that what you have is terrible at being something else entirely different doesn't put forth any other argument than one for a better school system.

>>92926759
This guy gets it.

>>92926736
>same copypasta about steven getting raped by aku

That's not in this thread anon. Try again.

>>92926124
He's basically Caillou with hair.

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>>92926760
No, that's not what I mean. This specific thread has been done like 80 fucking times with the same shit. It's not people pointing out flaws in the show. There are like 1000 other threads in the catalog right now doing just that.

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>>92926599
>>92926664
Its a kid show.
Stop taking everything so seriously.

>>92926652
1) Why not, there are plenty of inorganic liquids

2) Steven is organic

>>92926818
No anon I hate the healing spit in general just make him heal with glowing hands or some shit.

>>92926770
I remember Rebecca being able to write Finn from AT pretty good back when she was on that show, he was actually usually at his most badass when in her episodes even though she still managed to sneak her crying fetish in once in a while

I don't know what happened in the transition to SU

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>dude why does steven cry so much!!
>more like sjw universe right!

Every. Fucking. Day.

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>>92926867
Maybe because she's not writing the same fucking character

You people are actually autistic

>>92926851
My god man stop being so autistic he has healing spit this should bother no one yet it bothers you somehow.

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>>92926000
BUT IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR IT TO BE CALLED A WAR CRIME
EVEN FUCKING MY LITTLE PONY WRITERS PUT EFFORT INTO RESEARCHING WHAT THEY PUT IN THEIR SHOWS
THEY JUST HAD AN EPISODE WHERE TWO CHARACTERS EXPERIENCING NIGHTMARES ARE FALLING ENDLESSLY AND HAVING THEIR TEETH FALL OUT
AND THOSE THINGS WERE USED CORRECTLY
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT IT'S NOT A WAR CRIME YOU SHITTY CURLY-HAIRED INTROVERTED SHEDYKE
I'M MAD

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>>92925797
>>92925797

>Instead he got a million dollars from writing that song we never knew about for that commercial we never saw and hey now he can do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3M47LlGAWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNUlhdKGFvE

>>92926791
Alright then, in what setting, does fighting an enemy where your friends are in mortal danger, does a fat joke fit? In what medium can you use 'It was a joke' to legitimately blow off criticism?

What style of writing finds it appropriate to literally stop the story to tell a joke?

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>>92926875
These threads are so tiring and do nothing but repeat the same shit over and over its insane.
Plus the amount of autsits in these threads in nuts their are retards in this thread right now who are legit upset that Steven has healing spit.
Why anyone would be upset by this is fucking baffling and sad.

>>92926903
It just shows that when Sugar has full control of a character he becomes a boring crybaby and little else
>You people are actually autistic
Yeah that goes without saying, look at this thread champ

>>92926055
And Star is shown from the very first episode that even if she's a retarded spaz she still knows when and how to get shit done. You can do a character like Steven right, the problem is that he isn't written that way.

>>92926811
Because every thread where someone points out a bad decision, there's an equal number of anons defending said bad decision.

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>>92926937
Me Grundy think Android should let Android's anger go. Or Grundy make shiny metal man disappear for rest of season for no raisin.

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>>92927014
it's almost like...cartoons are subjective wow!!

Can a mod delete this bait thread already jesus

>>92926789
Well, when were you expecting to see it?

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>>92926983
>>92926909
>>92926903
>>92926875
>>92926818
>>92926811
>when a bunch of people enter the thread to say the same thing but the IP count doesn't go up

>>92926092
>>92926196
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>>92926230
Rebecca doesn't enforce character references to the point that the storyboarders are the ones that set the heights and proportions, even if they are grossly inconsistent as that.

>>92926960
How the fuck do you have a song without a bridge/hook?

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>>92927039
>cartoons are subjective wow
really
just cartoons?

>>92927043
I've been here for maybe an hour I just refresh the thread every now and then to see what the next autstist says.

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>>92920733
Reminder that the mods are biased against SU.

The Star Vs General can be up when they havent had episodes in fucking months, but /sug/ can get shut down for literally only two days before a new episode comes out. These shitty threads get to the front, but make a thread about the Diamond conspiracy and it gets deleted instantly.

Because it was created by a woman who doesn't understand what being a man actually means.

>>92927043
Shhhh don't tell him how the site works, it's funnier this way.

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Its a kids show.
You are all autistic and you are all triggered that a little fat kid crys.
You lot are sad.

>>92926543
>they don't actually watch.
Just because I watch Steven Universe doesn't mean I stay oblivious to its flaws. That's like when a Batfag says BTAS is a 10/10 show and every episode is worth watching.

>>92927039
There's being subjective, and then there's being blind.

It happens when you have fans of a show. They take criticisms directed at what they like and act like it invalidates themselves for liking it so they defend every decision, rational or otherwise.

>>92926730
They stretched what should be a 3 season series into 7.

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>>92927088
>The Star Vs General can be up when they havent had episodes in fucking months, but /sug/ can get shut down for literally only two days before a new episode comes out. These shitty threads get to the front, but make a thread about the Diamond conspiracy and it gets deleted instantly.
That probably has to do with the massive amount of nsfw content that is posted without spoilers, and the shit that is posted with spoilers is so bad that even /d/ would ban them. Literally the only board that tolerates the shit they post is /trash/

pregnant corpse scat fucking with vore and unbirth and bodyswap

>>92927043
The...IP did go up. Here. Screenshot for ya bud.

>>92925690
why would he be balding? It comes from the mother.

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>>92927115
And yet you're here. What does that make you?

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>>92927149
>Here. Screenshot for ya bud

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>>92927043
Fuck.

>>92926657
>Why does this board feel the need to make a thread about Steven every few days?
/sug/ is still mad as fuck that they got shitcanned into /trash/ almost a year back. This last bomb that happened they're trying to force themselves back here because even if you hate the show you have to admit this is the first time in a long ass while that the plot is actually moving forward and is staying in the forefront.

>>92927170
He's Photoshoping