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Dumbing of Age

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Last night, while Patreanon was fast asleep, Rapin' Ryan whipped out his knife and waved it around menacingly at Dorothy and Amber.

How will Willis manage to ruin this promising action setup? Only time will tell.
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>>92900683
How cartonishly evil can Willis make someone before people get tired of it? Pretty fucking far if this is any indication.
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>>92900947

Ryan sounds like he's having a psychotic break. Doesn't this mean that by Willis Logic, he's immune to the consequences of his actions?

Also, how is Ryan even in any danger? If they don't have his name and they just have his photo, then it's basically his word against theirs. He could very easily claim that he's the victim of a targeted witch hunt and his parents would probably believe him.
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>>92900683
man this would be really threatening if it wasn't for this horseshit in pic related. also if Willis didn't tell everyone there's a no death rule
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>>92901328
Some of his fragile core fans would be hospitalized right now with panic attacks if they couldn't go into their little mental safe-spaces, repeatedly telling themselves that Willis will never kill a character.
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>>92900683
I feel like in the 3rd panel it would have been better to break up Ryan's two bits of dialouge with Dorothy saying something, cause it just seems awkward for him to say Really rough day and then be like "rough day?" or something. Also who the fuck goes by just their middle name? That doesn't seem like a common thing.
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>>92901451
>who the fuck goes by just their middle name?
I'm thinking one of two things. It could be as simple as just a (bad) alias to protect himself when he goes out rapin'. Or, maybe his first name is just stupid, like "Lindsey" or something, and his last name would link him to his well-known, Republican Party affiliated parents, which he wouldn't want either.
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>>92901451
I do, but that's because no one can pronounce my first name
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>>92900683
So his big plan is to pull a knife on two people in front of the entrance to a dorm, in plain view of the front desk, anyone with a room facing the front, anyone in the lobby, anyone outside, and presumably the security cameras?
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>>92900683
>you're safe. Go!
If there's time for one of you to get inside, there's time for both of you to get inside, dumbass.
It's also comedic, how the villain pegs Amazigirl's identity easily, when not only has nobody else found her, but nobody has found him either. It's like acknowledging how easy it is, which highlights how stupid everyone else is.

>>92901599
>Or, maybe his first name is just stupid
>>92901451
I knew a "Mike" in middle school whose real first name was Ernie.
Also knew a John who went by Adam since a lot of his family were named John.
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>>92901776
The real genius to the plan is that whoever's manning the front desk won't bother to call the police or help because those two people getting stabbed by the hooded creep outside are insufferable twats.
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>>92902874
It's most likely Asma at the front desk. She won't do anything since she seems to hate everyone anyway. She'll even be thankful there's going to be two less infidel lesbians on campus (it's probably easier for her to assume all the girls are lesbians at this fucking school).
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>>92900683
Whose ready for zero reprocusions the comic?
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>>92901451
So when the send Ryan to jail because Willis wrote am unbelievable character, that's it for any real drama in the comic right?
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>>92900683
5 years ago:
>I really didn’t want to end a strip on Joyce being shoved into a bathroom. That’s not the sort of cliffhanger I want to do. It was a very important goal of mine throughout this storyline to not leave Joyce in a state of imminent, impending rapey danger for the 24 hours between strips. So if Ryan makes his move in a strip, he has to be subdued by the end of it. If some subtlety is lost in that, then that was a sacrifice I was willing to make.

http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/11395079843/im-just-curious-i-really-liked-todays-strip

Is this........ growth as a writer?
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>>92900683
Oh wow so it was a knife. It's not even drawn the same as in the last one...

Also, the idea that there are no Ryans at all at the school is actually nuts. The idea that he tracked down the Amazi-Girl reporter is also kinda nuts, but Willis did set it up with him knowing about her article.
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>>92903244
That'll only leave Sir Grandpa Clint and Mary as outright villains, and neither of them are very threatening to the degree that Toedad, Amber's dad, and Ryan are...physically threatening, anyway.
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>>92902012
>If there's time for one of you to get inside, there's time for both of you to get inside, dumbass.
I think she was being heroic and telling her to go first, and then she would follow Dorothy or fight Ryan.

>>92901451
My boyfriend goes by his middle name, as does one of my great-aunts. It's not super-common, but it happens regularly enough.
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>>92900683
See, now THIS is something happening.

Too bad Toedad was the peak Happening that happened in DoA, and with that plus Willis' no-kill clause, we already know that this is going to end with trauma but no blood spilled. Unless somebody gets stabbed. In which case, they're gonna live. But they'll have the trauma now, I guess.

Maybe this is why Willis shifted the primary focus from Joyce to Dorothy/Amber/Sal for the Ryan story. He knew there was no middle-ground for his climax, so he had to go all or nothing, and that meant pulling out a knife.

Also, it's now two-for-two that Ryan makes the fatal mistake of announcing his intentions instead of just doing it without saying anything.

>>92902012
>If there's time for one of you to get inside, there's time for both of you to get inside, dumbass.
I question why they weren't already having their conversation inside. What reason was there for them to be outside? The lobby is clearly large enough that they could hold a private conversation without having to worry about eavesdroppers, especially at night when there's likely nobody around.
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Well, tonight, we learn that paper can effectively bar a door, and that Amber is fucking stupid.

Oh wait, we already knew the second thing, and the first thing is retarded. Oh well. At least when Amber mangles his face further, Ryan will have all the circumstantial evidence in the world to turn it around and make her seem like the aggressor.
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>>92903476
>One of Ryan’s greatest flaws, besides the obvious, is impatience. That’s part of why he’s trying to shortstep the journey to premarital hanky panky to begin with.

http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/11412863308/i-get-that-i-wasnt-suggesting-you-not-end-this
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>>92903536
Is the palm of her hand phasing through his wrist?
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>>92900683
This actually cracked me up a bit because that last panel looks like Willis is trying to emulate Rob Guillory.
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>>92903536
>the blue-eyed girl
She told you her name that one time.

>Saw the reporter on my way into class.
I thought Ryan didn't go to this school. Wasn't that a thing that he didn't even go to this school?

>Unfortunately for you...
>I am not Amazi-Girl.
I feel like this is supposed to be a badass thing, but if the implication is that Amber is the violent one and Amazi-Girl is more subdued, that's still not helping how fucking confusing Willis' interpretation of Amber's alleged DID is.

Also, she looks like a goddamn scarecrow with a slit for a mouth in that last panel.

Anybody got the new porn pin-ups yet?

>>92903576
What a goddamn handwave. "Oh, uhh, he's impatient. Yeah, that explains why he directly enunciates his intentions to rape Joyce right in front of her face."
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>>92903536

Oh my god, the art just keeps getting worse and worse

It's obvious that willis can't draw detailed non-stock facial expressions, so why does he keep trying?
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>>92903536
>Why so serious, Ryan?
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>>92903536
hey look, it's two crazy people in a knife fight. It's just like my Chinese bum fights
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>>92903536
>Red panels
Brace for Amber losing her shit completely.
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>>92903639
>What a goddamn handwave. "Oh, uhh, he's impatient. Yeah, that explains why he directly enunciates his intentions to rape Joyce right in front of her face."
It gets worse:

>And finally, I don’t think the scene works unless Ryan reveals exactly what he is, no moderation. Joyce has to understand instantly. It can’t be something that could be mistaken for sarcasm. Joyce has been giving him the benefit of the doubt all night. Ryan’s true self has to get her attention right here, right now. Minimizing his anger doesn’t create that catalyst for her snap back into reality.
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>>92900683
It's so absurd, yet I'm not surprised. Come on, Willis.
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>>92903536
Oh look! Amber is becoming the the Joker! Gees, this is getting ridiculous, also it seems this is leading to another case of "the bad guy gets his shit absolutely kicked in" as per Willis' rule about the "bad guy(s)" getting what they absolutely deserve.
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>>92903536
Boy, I sure am glad that the rapist villain loves to monologue instead of just cutting to the chase and getting stab-happy.

Just what I'd expect from this totally realistic depiction of college life.
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>>92903709
wow, I understand having no faith in your readers you have to simplify shit but you are some special level of hack to have no faith in your own characters you have to have other characters act like idiots so you can mentally justify them keeping up
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>>92903536
>>92903639
Oh, something else to consider is that Dorothy is watching the whole thing. Hell, maybe Sal's on her way downstairs after Dorothy calls or texts.

So I'm going to assume that Amber and Ryan will drag out their MOST EPIC KNIFE FIGHT EVER (GONE SEXUAL) (GONE WRONG) 2017 until Sal is within view, at which point Amber up and stabs Ryan in the hand in the same way that she stabbed Sal so many years ago. Sal witnesses this and realizes that Amber is the girl who stabbed her all those years ago, because I guess that'll be something that will happen for some reason. Amber will be holding the knife in her hand while Ryan's on the ground, writhing in pain. Dorothy will be inside, calling the cops. Sal will be awestruck and unable to move. Amber looks at Sal, then the knife in her hand, then flashes back to when she first stabbed Sal, internally considering whether or not to give her a matched set. Then Amazi-Girl attempts to break through, at which point we have a MOST EPIC BATTLE OF MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES (GONE SEXUAL) (GONE CHUBBY) 2014 2015!!!! in which Amber and Amazi-Girl duke out control.

And that's not just fanfiction; that's honestly how I foresee this whole thing ending. There's no reason for Willis to drag out Ryan's storyline any longer unless he wants Robin to have a role in it, and this is the only way I can see Amber and Sal's teamwork coming to a climactic conclusion.
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>>92900683
why is this piece of shit always shilled here?
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>>92900683
What the fuck is that continuity in panels 3-4? Ryan's five feet away, then he's close enough to touch Dorothy, then he's five feet away again.

Also, is that REALLY going to be the explanation for why Ryan isn't his real name? With the massive handwave that there isn't a single student at this public university with the first name Ryan?

Even for Willis this is contrived.
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>>92903536
So I'm guessing Amber's gonna grab his knife and slit his fucking throat and kill him. And then everyone is gonna praise her for a job well done and pat her on the back while police do absolutely nothing again because clearly murder isn't worth their time punishing someone for.
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>>92903814
I'm betting when Amber fucks him up, with a hand-stab or otherwise, the cops will be called, or maybe Sal breaks it up first. Either way, he's then gonna say that these girls are harassing him with false rape allegations online, stalked and assaulted him at Robin's rally, and then stalked and assaulted him again outside of the dorms here.

They have no evidence on Ryan whatsoever, unless there's a CCTV camera pointed right at them right now, which I doubt there will be.
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>>92903536
Here's to hoping she imagined this whole talk and knife and its just some random guy she just assaulted
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>>92903536
>I'm not Amazi-girl.
Wtf is that face. This is where the comic hits into maximum Willis.
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>>92903536
Amber grabbing his hand in panel 5 is so fucked up. Like her hand blends into his or just looks disjointed.
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>>92903947
I think he's trying to convey that Amber is about to have a psychotic break, and is about to beat that man to death while screaming "DO YOU LOVE ME NOW DADDY"
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>>92904012
If only. If she kills Ryan and gets put in a mental institution, then and only then will I believe Willis has grown into a amateur writer and not sjw baby trash.
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>>92903815
We have a weird sort of love-to-hate relationship with it. Just ignore the thread if you don't like it; there's a chance it'll be gone tomorrow morning.
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>>92903536
That's a set of double doors. All Dorothy has to do is open both of them at the same time and the book will hit the ground.

>>92903858
No death rule, remember? Amber will one punch KO Ryan, at which point the police will show up just in time for Ryan to give his full name, list of prior rapes including time, date, and incriminating photographs, his roofie stash, fingerprints, and DNA sample without prompting, at which point he will be whisked away and Mary will immediately start a legal defense fund while spreading lies about Joyce claiming rape to cover for her sexual licentiousness and Dorothy and Amber leading a witchhunt against Ryan that ultimately ended with them jumping him and planting a knife before filing a false police report.
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Reminder that, as of a year ago, Willis still wasn't sure if he wanted Ryan to get caught or not:

>A huge reason I had Joyce put a gaping gash on his face is that at the time I wasn’t sure if we were going to see him again and I wanted him to suffer.

>(I’m still not sure.)

http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/131715025652/ryans-never-getting-caught-is-he
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so is there rape in this comic series?
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>>92904274
Short answer? No.

Long answer: In 2011, this big-nosed guy tried to rape the main character at a party. He disappeared for several years out-of-comic and a few weeks in-comic (Yes, it does move that slow).

She has PTSD from dealing with the trauma, and the idiots didn't report it to the police originally, so they have nothing to go on but the gash she left on his face when he got physically aggressive with her.

More details can be given if you want them.
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>>92904330
Are there any visuals worth showing?
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>>92904403
This scene from her nightmare?
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>>92904472
Yes, thank you.
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>>92904472
If Willis wasn't such a basic bitch he'd have made a rape hentai out of this scene.
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>>92904472
And this is pretty much the rest of it.
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>>92904472
wait

his scar is on the wrong side
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>>92904524
~~~~~DREAM SEQUENCE~~~~~

(I honestly don't know why it looks like that in Joyce's dream.)
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>>92904472
YOU CALL THAT RAPE
YOU ARE LIKE LITTLE BABY
HERE, WATCH THIS

https://youtu.be/FYJZ4aA1t4c
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>>92903287
Or he just doesn't give as much of a shit about Amber and Dorothy as he does about Joyce.
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>>92904274
Don't listen to >>92904330, he's trying to fool you. The blue-eyed girl Ryan mentioned is Joyce who, after squandering her trust fund, hatched a plan with her friend Dorothy to have sex with a rich frat guy and get knocked up so she could sue him, the frat, and the university along with being able to claim child support. Ryan walked in on them as they were trying to rape his bro Tyler after slipping him a roofie and a crushed up Viagra and tried to stop them only for Joyce to glass him in the face. Afterwards they went around claiming that Ryan tried to rape Joyce using social media to start a witch hunt and deflect any allegations against them. Ryan, having snapped under the strain is now confronting Dorothy; unfortunately for him Dorothy brought along Amber, a severely mentally ill girl who occasionally slips into the delusional belief that she's a superhero called Amazi-Girl, a delusion that Dorothy encourages and exacerbates as to provide her with interesting fodder for her student journalism job.
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>>92903536
>I am not Amazi-Girl.
Looks like it is time for "Ryan" to get hand-stabbed.

>>92903918
>They have no evidence on Ryan whatsoever, unless there's a CCTV camera pointed right at them right now, which I doubt there will be.
Except for his finger prints on the knife, motive, and the sworn testimony of two witnesses. As long as they go straight to the cops, this is a slam dunk. Of course, they had a ton of evidence against "Ryan" last time that they pissed away by not going to the cops.
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>>92903536
>Blue-Eyed Girl
Not remembering the name of the person who got Ryan that scar is a choice.

>Dorothy fighting to stay outside where she can get in Amber's way,
Pretty annoying. Like I have to give some credit for being shocked, but it's objectively a dumb decision especially when the assailant is armed.

>Ryan monologues that he is planning to go inside a dorm with heavy traffic and probably lots of cameras and personnel and literally cut up his victim's face
So, the issue here is one I've had a lot. I thought Tycho Ryan Brahe here would just lay low or leave, assuming he wasn't on campus. But with him being a student the desperation and drastic action become justified. However, instead of just quietly following until he can get a knife on a neck or something, he's doing this weird overdramatic bullshit, because he's a Willis villain. He also waited a while for someone "impatient."

>Calls Amber fat again
Once again, not the actions of a desperate man. Cut to the chase.

>Willis' "masterstroke," Amber finally has a chance to fight a punk with a knife to help her friends
This would almost be good if she didn't just reach her hand up and crush his hand, making it seem like the easiest shit ever. Going for weapon arm control is correct, but I think they train you to use both hands, and to either grab the wrist or just knock the arm to attempt a disarm. But, once again, there's no reason why an antsy desperate Ryan wouldn't be looking for this person to try something. And I don't even care that much about the "biotruths" man vs woman arguments, it's just really boring when the person who beats everyone beats the big bad, you want a little more tension.

Anyway, I hope she goes full psycho, stabs this Brian Ryan Zion and goes to jail. But I bet even if the killed him while he was begging for his life, Dorothy would cover for her (and then tell Walky in a crying fit later, but she'd keep it to herself for at least 2 years).
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>>92904774
>Calls Amber fat again
Pretty sure he was referring to Joe. He knew that once Dorothy was separate from Joe, she'd go to her dorm. For some reason. Did Ryan never consider that Joe and Dorothy could literally live in the same building and/or that Joyce was possibly on the other side of campus?

Ryan made a LOT of assumptions that just happened to be correct. How fortunate for him.
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>>92905384
Immediately after posting this, I had an unpleasant flashback to the time a "friend" said he would have raped me if I were alone. GirlAnon out for now.
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>>92903536
Ah, this reminds me of what Hank Pym did to that guy who murdered all his students.
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>>92905384
Ohh, ok that makes more sense. His good luck is going to get him stabbed, though.

>>92905429
That sucks. Especially with how this deals with serious subject matter in the most over the top ridiculous way. Hope you feel better soon (probably not the right way to phrase that but, I hope you get my meaning).
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>>92903918
I don't think Dorothy is going to be leaving Ryan in any shape to lie to anyone.
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>>92904193
>A huge reason I had Joyce put a gaping gash on his face is that at the time I wasn’t sure if we were going to see him again and I wanted him to suffer.
I thought it was because he wanted Rapin' Ryan to be identifiable in the endless sea of sameface.
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>>92900683
>HE WAS COMICALLY EVIL ALL ALONG!
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>>92903536
Congratulations willis. I am now rooting for a rapist to win a knife fight. I didn't think it was possible, but you've done it. I don't even want to root for him, but I do. It's unfortunate, really. This comics last chance at redemption died a long time ago. Even if every part of it from now on was the best writing possible, the background of how we got here would still ruin it.
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>>92900683
who was the anon that posted a week ago that rapin' ryan would show up as soon as they saw an outdoors scene at night

like, it's about as much of a prediction as calling rain on an overcast day, but kek
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>>92903536
>paper can effectively bar a door

It's a whole book (seems to be hardcover too). A phone book can stop a bullet.
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>>92903639
Reread todays strip, he goes to the school, his name just isn't Ryan.
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>>92903536
>>92906099
Barring the door from the outside, no less. If Amber can't stop him, then whether or not a book can doesn't mean shit.
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It's weird that both Willis and also the writers for Life is Strange felt they needed to make their rapist students into mental cases who bring weapons to school and attack people, instead of just making them regular people who are capable of doing bad things like most sexual abusers are in reality.
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>>92906547
Well the idea is that Dorothy would maybe find some help or call the police or something. Maybe hide in a janitor's closet, or use Walky's smelly torso as a deterrent.
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>>92903601
No. She's just fat
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>>92900683
>how will he manage to ruin it

Why is this even a question? Amazigirl will beat him up easily with one punch, or Sal will come out of nowhere, or Dorothy will somehow run faster than the wind to get "the gang" to come and beatdown on Ryan the Retarded Rapist.
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>>92900683

I was fully expecting him to be defeated.

But not this soon or in so fucking retarded a manner. At least up till now he might have had a chance to get away with a good lawyer. But this... this is just too convenient.
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>>92901451
>Also who the fuck goes by just their middle name?

I do.

Mom said I looked more like it.
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>>92906617
Oh you mean like Chloe falls over and have her neck land on a pebble instead?
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>>92907409
>At least up till now he might have had a chance to get away with a good lawyer.
They only had old witness testimony, weeks after the incident. The victim remembers nothing, she was never tested for drugs and they didn't even know his name. All he needs is a story about the scar, or why he was glassed, and I think they would have a hard time securing a conviction.

So he didn't need even a good lawyer, unless he was planning on suing for defamation instead. I'm surprised he doesn't have a mustache he can twirl.
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>>92907884

So he COULD have gotten away if he had let it be. There is literally NO reason for him to do this.

This is bad, BAD comedy, Starscream
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2 nights ago I had a dream that Willis made an animated film based on It's walky.
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>>92906617
To be fair, LiS did it slightly better by having the student being manipulated by someone else
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>>92908166
He had a reason. God told him to. In this case, the God is Willis.

Hell I like to imagine Willis's characters not believing the shit they are doing.
>RapinRyan: Shit! I got caught trying to rape someone and got injured! I better lay low...
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>>92907409
I'm amazed that Willis is finally going to stop dragging out this storyline.
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>>92909380
That is so optimistic of you.
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>>92909417
Shit, you're right, I forgot about "Ryan's" father. He's probably going to sweep in and make all the charges and trouble disappear like Clint did.
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>>92906547
the book isnt to stop ryan, its to lock dorothy in while amber kills a man
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>>92908533
Theirs is a suffering unimaginable, self-awareness under distant and controlling god who puppets them for the amusement of other.

>Hey Amber, I guess I've got to stab you know.
>I understand, but...you know I'm only in this scene to beat the shit out of you, right?
>S'cool, I scored an oxy before I showed up and it's hitting pretty hard; I can barely hold the knife.

>>92910005
Her bloodlust cannot be satiated.
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>>92900683
Haven't they been threatened with shotguns and come out pretty much untouched?

Why is a knife in the hands of a guy who was EASILY beaten before trying to be a threat?
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>>92903536

It's funny how uninvested I am in this

Willis sucks
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as someone who doesn't follow this, what the deal with the raping and the name-going-by-ing
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>>92900683
I can't get over what a pointless red herring this name reveal is. If Ryan is the name he goes by then for all practical purposes THAT IS HIS NAME. Anyone who recognizes him from Amazi-Girl's photo will still be able to give information on his whereabouts.

"I have Spanish II in the morning with that guy."
"I live in the same apartment complex."
"I intern with him for a political campaign."

Ryan using his middle name has no bearing on people's ability to recognize and report him.
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>>92911257
Maybe it would have helped if Ryan wasn't easily disarmed the strip after he produced the knife.
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>>92912082
The huge scar he has on his face (which he apparently doesn't cover with makeup) would do far more to mark him than the use of his middle name.
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Willis should revive Shortpacked.
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>>92912082
Lol, I love how willis dropped that like it implied something big. When Robin finds out his name isn't Ryan, this was treated like some huge twist. In reality, it didn't mean shit. Ryan still was they guy who tried committed sexual assault. He could be Bob or Tony. End of the day, he still has a scar on his face
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>>92912699

>Willis should get a real job and stop infecting the internet with his shit

ftfy
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>>92911825
It is a long and tedious tale but to summarise;
"Ryan" is an attempted rapist who drugged Joyce the MC at a party getting a gruesome facial scare for his efforts
Rather than reporting this serious incident Joyce decided to pretend nothing happens.
Some weeks later Dorthy spotted Ryan at a political rally and snapped a blurred picture of him
Deciding that vigilanty justice is the way to go she posted the picture online with an appeal for more information about "Ryan"
Rather than suing her ass for libel Ryan has decided to get all stabby and also reveal that Ryan is his middle name. Explaining why they hadn't been able to take him down before
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>>92912824
the most credit I can give Willis is it just shows her aids are shit at their job that, 1, they probably delegate dealing with volunteers or just don't remember them, massive facial scars included and/or 2, there's either no documents or application for volunteers or there isn't a space for middle names/initials which I'm sure is the default in most templates
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>>92913066
Amber took the picture as Amazi-Girl, not Dorothy.
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>>92913066
>Ryan is his middle name
Was his middle name not part of his record?
Was there anyone else they found with Ryan as part of their name other than him?
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>>92913413
For some reason, Willis thinks you can go as a name and somehow have it never come up in a way that employers or teachers notice. Also he forgot that you can just fucking identify him with the scar and get his "real" name.
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>>92911211
>Hey Carla, hows it hangin'?
>Good. You still up for Thursday?
>yep. I... always... goddammit there's a camera!
>Oh fuck. Mary, I just want you to know I'm sorry for whatevers about to happen.
>Yeah.
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so it can't have been more than a couple weeks since dorothy got her interview with amber, right?

and I'm assuming the IU has a weekly newspaper, rather than a daily one.

How is dorothy already known as the 'amazigirl' reporter, if she's had MAYBE one article on her?
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>>92903536
What a great idea posting Ryan's face on social media was.
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>>92903536
Wait, he knows she's Amazi-Girl? He knows she can leap from speeding car to speeding car and punch through windshields and wall jump to the roof of a 3 story building? This doesn't concern him?
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>>92915105
I think the bigger concern for him is that he's a straight white male facing up against a woman.
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>>92903536
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>>92904330
>2011
>TWO THOUSAND FUCKING ELEVEN
Oh my god, I knew this shit moved slowly but Jesus Christ, he mad less than one semester last over half a fucking decade? Holy shit, dude
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>>92903536
>>92900683
I don't understand.. he could literally avoid the law if he didn't do anything. Why go do something that will certainly get him in jail?
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>>92906488
I mean that I vaguely recall a statement after the party that he wasn't even from the school and that nobody knew him.

You'd think he'd have decided to just stay at home and not leave the house if he knew his picture was all over social media and his life was ruined.

Oh, and something else I just realized. What does Dorothy have to do with any of this? She's not the one who put the picture online. She didn't even write an article about Ryan. So why target her? If anything, he should be trying to get her away and talk to Amber alone.

Or I guess Willis is a hack.

>>92906087
I predicted a few days ago that Ryan would show up, but that was the first strip where Dorothy and Amber were both out alone at night.

I mean, seriously, how COULDN'T you see that coming?

>>92908507
Here's the closest you'll get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9x_j7CQFqM

>>92911211
>>92913611
Honestly, that would be a great concept for a story: A reality-show crew comes barging in on the lives of college kids and assigns them different roles, goals, and quirks to make the show interesting. Conflicts arise as this new mandate shakes up the social structure, and soon the fiction of the reality show and the reality of the status quo begin to clash and blend.
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>>92903536
HOW THE FUCK DOES HE LOSE GRIP OF THE KNIFE
does he have like no grip strength at all? is she snapping his wrist or something? with the way her hand is it doesn't make any sense.
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>>92904774

in all seriousness the art in that strip is quite well done

comic overall is still cringy as fuck, though
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>>92903536
>Ryan realizes he has made a terrible mistake

Amber rapes Ryan when?
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>>92915321
>Gabe steals tychos watch
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>>92915664
>She's not the one who put the picture online.
She was. It was the one Amber sent to her before Ryan tampered with her phone.
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>>92914837
To give him his due, of all the ways that could have backfired this is by far the dumbest
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>>92900683
Jesus fucking Christ a folding knife, seriously?
How the fuck can they not recognize wormface
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>>92900683
>>92903536
Nice to see that Willis couldn't go more than 3 strips without erasing all tension again. As a reminder, he had 5-6 straight pages of Leslie getting the shit kicked out of her in Shortpacked!

So, it's painfully obvious that Ryan's Leland, right? Was that supposed to be a huge twist? Because it fucking wasn't.
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>>92904472
hot
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>>92918880
Ryan isn't Leland though
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>>92918960
What is this pic based on anyway?
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>>92918880
Willis seems pretty adamant that it is not Leland. Yes, everything about this arc seemed to be building up to a Leland reveal, but Willis is treating them as two distinct characters.
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>>92919044
It feels like it's referencing something, but I have no idea what. Probably something from some obscure Transformers media.
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>>92918960
>>92919044
>>92919115
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>>92919609

Ah, I see

I hate Trump so much but watching Willis-types get assblasted is my salve.
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>>92919609
Oh for fucks sake.
At least Trump references haven't seeped into the actual comic yet.
Lord knows I can't stand shit like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SslItzjQRpI
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>>92918341
Amber sent it to Dorothy for confirmation. She posted it on SocMed™ the next day after talking about it with Joyce. Pic Related.

>>92919754
Yeah, about that.
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>>92919853
See, technically Willis hasn't made any direct Trump references.

But boy howdy has he made "subtle" references.
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>>92919853
>>92919890
Also, here's the strip I was thinking about from the party about nobody knowing who Ryan was. Turns out the guy claimed to have seen him before, so my bad.
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>>92919754
>At least Trump references haven't seeped into the actual comic yet.
>>92919890
You beat me to posting that strip.
>tiny hands joke
>#maga hat
I'd call it pretty direct. But I doubt they'll ever mention his name, if that's what you mean. This strip has Joe referencing Trump's predilection to rate women on a 10 scale as well.
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>>92919754
And there's this bonus strip.
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>>92920144
I can't imagine 4 more years of this garbage.
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>>92921313
Going for eight. Because I don't see anyone on the other side getting over this enough to actually look sane.
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>>92905718
Thanks! I appreciate the sentiment. I'm good to talk about it a bit today. My situation involved a guy whose dorm was less than a 2-minute walk from mine. Anywhere on campus, I felt paranoid and tried to keep someone with me in case he approached me. I tried to make sure I wasn't walking alone when I was at my dorm or off to visit the bf. It was a really stressful time, and the only sympathetic people were women. It was an isolating time, because my male friends were on good terms with the guy who threatened me. The more I tried to get them to stand up for me, the more ostracized I got.

The police looked at the texts and questioned some people, but nothing came of it. The sexual assault services coordinator was great, and so was my counselor. My female friends and teachers took me seriously, but almost no one else was there for me.

Oh, and my stalker called me deranged recently.

So this arc hits a lot of sore spots for me, especially with how ridiculously it's being treated. Can't wait for the catharsis of watching Amber beat this tool up. I can't get justice, but maybe this will make me feel a little better.

Lot of touchy stuff happening here, so I'm not sure how the next events will affect me. I hope we can just end this storyline, but that's not gonna happen.
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HEY. WAIT A MINUTE...

This comic is BAD.
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>>92921844
>Can't wait for the catharsis of watching Amber beat this tool up
Unless Willis has one of Ryan's friends jump in to save him and this fucking subplot goes on for another year.
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>>92921844
How much catharsis do you really think you'll get considering that Willis dropped Joyce from the storyline and has instead made it about Amber's sense of inadequacy?
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>>92921974
>Choche from Bronco
>Indian
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>>92922003
I'm >>92903814, and assuming that this scenario doesn't happen, then I'm side-predicting that Ryan ends up escaping after Sal distracts Amber when she arrives on the scene, whether on her motorcycle that the campus apparently allows off-road or after having rushed down from the dorm.

Either way, I still see this story ending not with Ryan's arrest and the end of this subplot which should have ended four to six years ago, but with the unnecessary development of Amber's unnecessarily complicated (and wholly inaccurate) multiple-personality disorder and her unnecessarily irrational hatred of Sal.
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>>92921844
>So this arc hits a lot of sore spots for me, especially with how ridiculously it's being treated.
Yeah. And it also kinda sucks cause it started in a decent place narratively. Defending one's self against an assaulter with a weapon and being afraid to go to the police is interesting to explore, even if it's a bad decision. There's even a great strip later on, when Joyce is alone for a moment on campus and looks around and sees Ryan everywhere. It's a bit over the top as a visual metaphor, but at least it explores that feeling you're talking about.

This stuff right now is so far removed from the feelings around dealing with a stalker/former assaulter. It would at least be way more effective if Dorothy had to deal with him alone, or maybe if he threatened her and then receded back into anonymity. It would still have the issue of not focusing enough on Joyce, but at least he'd still be exploring isolation and fear.

Honestly I think Amber's whole shtick since she beat up her dad has been really bad, and I can't find it in me to care about it. It really sucks that it has to intersect with what started off as a more grounded concept, magically appearing black friends with bats aside.
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>>92924023
Willis just started a new plot of Amber trying to reconcile herself with Sal. Unless it was a red herring it's unlikely he'd go back on it immediately.

>>92924160
Amber post-Blaine beating had a couple of points where it could have gone in pretty interesting directions. Her unresolved issues with Sal becoming obsessive, her pushing of her sexuality and positive traits on Amazi-Girl, her feelings of inadequacy following the party and Toedad's Wild Ride, even the idea that Amazi-Girl was becoming Amber's go-to stress relief mechanism could all have been fodder for an interesting character arc. Unfortunately Willis just pinball'd through potential developments and cut them off with really examining them.
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>>92924571
Amber's redeemable characteristics died with the end of the Blaine arc, and it's easy to see why. Willis had DONE the Blaine arc before. He didn't even have to really think about it much to give it a new little spin. He could 'do it on autopilot' if you will.

After that, Amber's character turned into this mentally regressed disaster. It's like he threw the DSM V into a blender, left the cover off, and just let it splash all over her. He's still writing her character on autopilot, but he no longer has any GPS navigation to tell him where he's going.

I just want her to break and suffer now since she's become such an unlikable, unrealistic mess.
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>>92924160
>It's a bit over the top as a visual metaphor, but at least it explores that feeling you're talking about.
Idea for a better visual metaphor: instead of Ryan being everybody and being everywhere, Ryan should be lurking and hulking directly behind Joyce whenever she's alone on campus. Not only is that simpler but as effective as the other metaphor, it could lead to a scene in this current story which Joyce is on campus with others and talking, but Ryan can be seen behind her. It not only matches the visual metaphor we've seen, but it confirms that Ryan is indeed a real presence in this instance.

Or something like that.

>>92924571
>Unless it was a red herring it's unlikely he'd go back on it immediately.
My overall idea is that Amber will eventually have to have an internal/mental battle between herself and Amazi-Girl.

>Unfortunately Willis just pinball'd through potential developments and cut them off with really examining them.
Welcome to every potential development in "Dumbing of Age". Remember when Dina recognized how she might have been little more than a rebound for Becky after she got dumped by Joyce, only for Willis to wipe that whole thing away with two quote bubbles and a punchline?
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>>92926999
Honestly I'm perfectly fine with him not going anywhere with the rebound thing. Aside from the fact that I hate the rebound concept in general, it's a pretty fucking cliche plot and it'd suffer under the same decompression issues that plague the other relationship plots - namely that everyone's only been dating for maybe a month at most.
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My interest in this strip begins and ends with my unfortunate desire to see Amber violated, has some drawfag already anticipated this

It's not any particular issue with the character, she's just a shortstack in glasses
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>>92927293
A fair angle, but I liked it because it actually added some layer of conflict to Dina and Becky's relationship. After all, shortly after Dina's conversation with Sarah about this, Becky up and fucked off to join Joyce on her weekend trip back home. Yet Willis barely wrote anything more about Dina's feelings about that situation than a raised eyebrow.

Like, I know Willis is on his whole "God answers lesbian prayers" shtick, but it doesn't make for good or even tolerable reading when everything goes right. Know what I mean?
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>>92915693
>is she snapping his wrist or something?
I think the action lines in panel 4 are Amber crushing the bones in "Ryan's" palm.
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>>92927293
The only good thing about the Dina being a 'rebound' plot being continued, would have been be that we'd have seen more of Dina, and less of these other awful characters.

Plus it would have given Becky an undeniable flaw, so that's probably why he ditched it.
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>>92928599
I think a more interesting angle would be Becky and Dina having a perfectly normal relationship that ends because they've ultimately gotten what they want out of it and don't really have enough in common to stay together. Becky is validated as a lesbian and Dina is validated as a mature, sexual being, but outside thinking dinosaurs and vaginas are neat there isn't really a spark.

>>92928683
More screentime, more chances to ruin, anon. Plus having Dina being the rebound isn't really a flaw in and of itself and the comic is way too decompressed to have "shitty girlfriend" as anything other than an informed flaw.
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>>92929004
>outside thinking dinosaurs and vaginas are neat there isn't really a spark.
The problem is that this IS their current relationship, and nobody seems to see any problem with it.

Also, instead of vaginas, it's scalps. I have no clue why.
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>>92929564
There really isn't a problem with that unless you try to force a relationship. Amicable break ups based on the realization that you're not compatible aren't exactly common.

As for the scalp thing, every time Willis has show Becky's mother she's had her head covered, presumably due to cancer treatments, so it could just be some weird attachment that got turned into a fetish.
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Tonight, we mourn the loss of "Rapin'" Ryan McSquiggleface.

He died as he lived...getting really close to sticking it in a girl, and then getting shanked.
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>>92931198
Whelp. That's it, that's our comic, Ryan's dead, Good night everybody.
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>>92931198
........and then we cut to Robin sitting with no pants on at the spot we seen her at a few strips back
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>>92931198
>Muh no kill rule

Who oh who will be absolutely triggered in the patreon comments section tonight?
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>>92931198
Wow..... it's like who could have saw her self-destructive behavior and not thought she could absolutely snap and gank someone with a knife. Clearly no one could have saw this coming AT ALL /s.
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>>92931198
Now THIS is visual storytelling. A bit "too little, too late" coming from Willis, though, but at least something's happening.

Knowing Willis' "no death" clause, this seems to be cutting it close. I would assume Willis might retcon it by saying something like "only important character never die", but that seems unlikely.

>>92931270
I wouldn't be surprised. Willis tends to cut away to somebody going to sleep when ending the Dumbiverse day.
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>>92931198
>>92931270
I should note that Willis wrote "storyline over" under this comic, so we might even be in for a sizable time skip as the new story arc begins.
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>>92931198
If she actually did just murder Ryan then I'll give him credit where credit is due.
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>>92931392
>Story line over

Oh dang. So he's ending with a cliffhanger like that? Rough. Is it gonna jump two days and start with the comic he revealed early with Danny happy about something?
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>>92931386
Or he could simply have Ryan survive.
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>>92931198
She's not going to jail, is she? I swear to fucking god that Ryan was written like a dumbass just so she could be justified in murdering him.

If Joyce is happy about this, there's no hope for anybody.
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>>92931433

I will bet MONEY that he'll pussy out and Ryan's state will be either indefinitely ambiguous or very much not dead.

I will not actually bet money over a webcomic because that's dumb.
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>>92931315
Well, you-know-who just posted this gem
>:=c nooooo... Amber... *curls into DID panic ball*
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>>92931461
That's what I mean. He's cutting it close to an outright death, given how there are so many ways you can slash somebody with a knife and let them live.

Needless to say, it still kills any tension when you know that nobody's going to die.

>>92931476

Technically it's self-defense, given that Ryan approached THEM with the knife, but I'm sure there's going to be a whole fantasy fanfiction story where Amber is taken to court and wins her case.

>>92931493
>DID panic ball
Yeah, I'm definitely sure now that she doesn't have DID.
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This raises an interesting plot development now: will Amber get kicked outta the plot now? If she kills him, she is most certainly going to jail, and even if it's a stabbing she should be expelled. Or I guess some BS "no one else saw that but Dorothy" thing will happen and she swears to never speak of it.
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>>92931198
>Here Lies Ryan
>He Never Scored
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>>92931493
Turns out Amber was always Damaged
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This scene would have worked better if Ryan didn't know Amber was Amazi-Girl, the girl who beat his ass in front of a hundred people and sent him running. That way the previous strip could have ended with Ryan realizing in horror that the girl who just grabbed his hand is actually the most dangerous person on campus (lol this fucking comic).

Instead he deliberately attacks an actual, real life super hero with nothing but a knife. The art in this scene isn't bad but everything else about this arc is offensively stupid.
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>>92931198
Is somebody going to call the cops this time? If not, I would love to see Willis "wacky" cast of characters try to make jokes while they dismember and bury "Ryan's" corpse in the woods.
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>>92931476
Naw, I'm betting she just made his face look the same on both sides again.
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>>92931541
>Technically it's self-defense, given that Ryan approached THEM with the knife
That's what I mean by Ryan being written like a dumbass. It was completely irrational.

>>92931547
She can get off on self defense easy if she can show the knife is his.
Her explanation of why he would come at her with a knife is iffy considering they never reported the rape that started it all, but she's a main character and Willis doesn't have the balls to get rid of her.
If I were a prosecutor I would bring up the last time that she stabbed someone.
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>>92931198
>He died as he lived...getting really close to sticking it in a girl, and then getting shanked.
Well done!

>>92904774
>Anyway, I hope she goes full psycho, stabs this Brian Ryan Zion and goes to jail. But I bet even if the killed him while he was begging for his life, Dorothy would cover for her (and then tell Walky in a crying fit later, but she'd keep it to herself for at least 2 years).

The only thing I'd take back from this, is that he's probably not dead, just to justify the no kill rule. Although I have no idea how she would expect to avoid jail if he survives.

Try cocking your fist/wrist that sharply for a punch, btw. And then go to the doctor.
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>>92931198
Of Willis had any balls he'd have her castrate Ryan.

That being said, we know she didn't kill him. Be prepared for Ryan to have a new fun scar and a nice little wrap up with him getting arrested.

Willis is a fucking hack, etc etc.
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Meanwhile, in the comments to >>92903536:

>(not) nice knowin’ ya, Ry <br> time to die
>I mean….he actually might die.
>Willis has a no-death policy, but hasn’t said anything about lifelong comas.
>I thought his no-death policy was just for the main cast? Which Ryan is not part of. Tho I may be mistaken
>Yeah, if I recall he even used Tony as an example of someone who wouldn’t fall under the no-death policy. RIP Tony (again).
>There are security cameras around, right? Even if this is open-and-shut Self Defense, something has to stop Amber before she kills him, unless Willis really, really wants to explore writing about the legal system.

>he got caught monologuing
>Rookie mistake.

>I don’t think “Ryan” planned things out that well. And is Amber about to kill someone?
>Doubtful. If she does, she’s going to jail and will probably have to leave the comic. She’s one of the central characters along with Billie, Sal, Joyce, Becky, Sarah, and Dorothy, so I find that unlikely.

>Also, side note, Ryan is holding that knife like a complete dork. Yeah, you gotta respect the weapon, but he has no damn idea what he’s doing with the thing, he just got it and figured it’d be enough. Dumb move.

>Shit.
>Shit.
>well, this comic started with poop jokes. Shit happens.

>Gon get stabbed through the hand!!

>Total Rorschach moment! ^_^

>I’m somewhere between “oh no” and “OH YEAH” and I don’t know how to feel.
>Same, exactly. I was like, this strip doesn’t really make me *happy*, but I’m not as panicked as yesterday so I guess it’s good? Oh god I’m just worried about my girls.

>Holy crap..the look on her face in that last panel…It’s like watching the Joker as a college student…
>And we all thought she was batman :O

>That’s kind of sad actually.

>and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the best thing ambers friends can do for her is convince her to go to therapy, rather than enabling her with the vigilante-based self-hatred and compartmentalization
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>>92918960
>Mary
>evil

SLANDER.
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>>92931541
>Technically it's self-defense, given that Ryan approached THEM with the knife

>>92931666
>She can get off on self defense easy if she can show the knife is his.

I guess you can't tamper the Amber. (Seriously there's like no full rhymes, same with O'Malley

>>92931750
>and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the best thing ambers friends can do for her is convince her to go to therapy, rather than enabling her with the vigilante-based self-hatred and compartmentalization
Uh, it's kinda too late bro, she just maybe murdered a guy. And this is after fucking stabbing another girl in police custody, I still don't even know how that got handstabbed er hand waved away, and it's suddenly become extremely important.
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>>92931912
>She can get off on self defense easy if she can show the knife is his.
I get off on self defense. It's the sexiest of all misdemeanors.
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>>92931641
>try to make jokes while they dismember and bury "Ryan's" corpse in the woods.

Or maybe go the "Eating Raoul" route...
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>>92931198
I kinda have to give it to Willis for having his psychotic vigilante character actually do something violent that is genuinely bad. She beat the fuck out of Blaine, but that was more justifiable even though he went too far. Even Dorothy, who probably hates Ryan, is completely shocked by Amber's actions.

I honestly thought after the way the Sal grudge dissolved, that she would always just skirt the positive enough to always just be a hero. Maybe she'd end up hurting herself trying to help someone at the most. And eventually the Amber side would be proven to be just as good as the Amazi side. Instead we get this.
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>>92931198
wow, jesus. this actually happened. gotta say i was expecting a fake-out
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>>92901451
I go by my middle name, anon. My parents gave me my dad's first name but never intended to call me by it.
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>>92931198
>this woman who beat him and his friends up
>comes at her with just a knife
>thinks everything's going to go great

Is Ryan retarded?
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>>92931198
>Almost murders Ryan
>Identity is exposed
>Everyone is afraid of her
>Has to go on run from police
Would almost make this comic readable, but Willis doesn't have the stones.
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>>92911257
You lie, you come to this thread every day to eat up the latest comic.
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>>92931198
No, not kill.

Rape.
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>>92933333
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>>92931198
So.. are we really forced to believe that the fat girl is able to take the knife from his hands?
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>>92933667
Crazy makes you strong, and Amber appears to be legitimately out of her fucking mind.
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>>92933667
Maybe he was just too stunned to react in time?
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>>92931541
>tfw Ember wins the case and Ryan is sentenced to death in prison
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>>92933667
You say that as if being fat would prevent someone from disarming you. Just cuz you're fat doesn't mean you're weak.
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>>92934089
Might give her more leverage, in fact. You ever have a skinny person who isn't a massive fitness freak try to move you against your will? Doesn't work well.
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>>92934108
Skinny isn't trying to move anyone here. Fatty simply doesn't have the muscles to take away a knife.
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>>92934081
>EMBER!
>YOU WILL remember my name
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>>92933667
She took self defense class funded and required by her father. She should have been taught how predators think and all that jazz
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>>92931666
>She can get off on self defense easy if she can show the knife is his.
I think it stops being self defense sometime after the fourteenth stab to the nuts, Anon.
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>>92931461

I wouldn't be shocked if somehow Ryan got away andthis dumbfuck storyline STILL isnt resolved
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>>92931541
>Technically it's self-defense, given that Ryan approached THEM with the knife
There's a rule about self-defense that says you can't escalate a non-lethal fight into a lethal one, or it counts as you attacking them. While Ryan did come at her with a knife, he stopped being lethally threatening when Amber took the knife from him, so it counts as Amber starting a new fight when she then used the knife herself.

Or to put it another way: you can't claim you were defending yourself from a knife attack if you're the one holding the knife.

...That being said, once actually IN court, her lawyer might be able to get her off with "She was in a fight for her life, she wasn't thinking straight enough to realise that Ryan wasn't able to stab her anymore". IIRC, it won't get her out if she killed Ryan (that has very strict liability), but if she just maimed him it should be fine.
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>>92931711
>any balls
>castrate
ha
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>>92936735
Just looked it up: America has "imperfect self-defence", which is where you were honestly but unreasonably defending yourself, and it downgrades any murder to manslaughter. If Ryan's dead, that's definitely what Amber gets sentenced with.

...Generally, anyway. It depends on the specific state. America's laws-by-state system is really annoying for legal analysis.
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>>92932578
Rachel's "redemption is just a nice story" speech (which happened I'd say less than an hour ago) may have had a significant role in this (or, at least, it was foreshadowing this moment).
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>>92936902
That fact that she took the time to bar the door and prevent Dorthy from intervening could work against her in court. The prosecution could argue that at that point she made a decision not to defend herself but to fuck Ryan up
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>>92936138
He's already walked off a baseball bat to the head.

>>92936735
>>92936902
Amber is in the clear legally as Ryan threatened her with a deadly weapon. It doesn't stop being self-defense just because Ryan dropped the knife during the attack. At least in America. In some places like the UK that operate under the equivalent force principle then Amber would only be able to legally defend herself with weaponry equal to that of her attacker. Imperfect self-defense usually means a legitimate act of self-defense that has unintended consequences, like a bystander getting injured.
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>>92937085
Self-defense covers acting on the behalf of a present third-party and Ryan was trying to attack both of them.
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>>92901313
But that wouldn't resolve his storyline easily with a happy ending. Now he'll get his.
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>>92901451
I did, but only because Chris is an incredibly bland first name.
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>>92934642
Why? I think you're seriously underestimating how easy it can be to disarm someone (especially someone who's not a real murderer) or severely overestimating how being overweight would effect someone's health, strength and stamina.
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>>92937176
>In some places like the UK that operate under the equivalent force principle then Amber would only be able to legally defend herself with weaponry equal to that of her attacker.
I am almost certain that every state in America uses the equivalent force principle too. At the very least, Indiana - the state this comic is set in - certainly does.

>Imperfect self-defense usually means a legitimate act of self-defense that has unintended consequences, like a bystander getting injured.

And that's just outright wrong. That's not only completely unchargeable, but in the US, the criminals themselves will be charged as if they had murdered the person themselves - under the Felony Murder law, on the national level. The former is fine, but Felony Murder is perhaps America's most infamous and awful law.
ACTUAL "imperfect self-defence" is exactly as I described it.
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>>92931198
OH MY GOD HER HANDS ARE COMING OUT OF THE PANELS HELP
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>>92931962
Is self defense even a misdemeanor?
That would imply that it is not technically legal, while it's perfectly fine under most laws as far as I know.
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>>92931198
Calling it now, Dorothy is traumatized from watching this go down, or some shit.
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>>92937197
Yes and if she has told Dorothy to block the door or gone with her she would be in the clear. As it is blocking the door from the outside does nothing to protect Dorothy. A prosecutor could use that against her. Whether a jury would buy it is another question but it would certainly be a mark against her
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>>92931198
F
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>>92931198
Willis should just end the entire comic right here. It's art.
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>>92931392
>I should note that Willis wrote "storyline over" under this comic, so we might even be in for a sizable time skip as the new story arc begins.

I would give him mad props if the next Amber strip was her arraignment. Good thing those are props I will never have to give, because obviously she's getting out of this with no Police involvement, because cops don't exist in this universe.
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>>92939873
I hope he wouldn't; it would just be another goddamn "death of innocence" metaphor and we don't need another one of those.

>>92940313
>cops don't exist in this universe.

No, they DO exist in this universe. But they're so incompetent that nobody bothers.
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>>92931198
As we all know, Ryan died a virgin.
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Willis posted the second May bonus strip this morning.

He said he "chose to wait a few extra days to publish" it, for obvious "reasons".
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>>92940611
And yeah, it's the same scene that this happened in ages ago.
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>>92940611
I'm disgusted at the visual ineptitude of both of them, but especially him, considering he has every reason to believe Joyce lives on campus.

Unless, I was mistaken and the party was off campus somewhere?
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>>92940611
I thought these strips were usually concurrent with events...
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>>92940611
He held off on it for a few days, but he didn't bother to fix Joyce's position in panels two and three?

Also, this is a bit confusing given Ryan's comments about wanting to harm Joyce. His monologue here implies that, like Joyce, he's worried about running into her again on campus. If he feels like he has a position of power over her to the point of wanting to carve his name into her face, why bother being worried? Hell, why even be thinking of her? He should have already raped at least three other chicks by now. Ryan is a horribly inefficient rapist. The rape economy has suffered because of him.

>>92940633
Oh, so the positioning is intentional.
Or is this just a testament to how lazy Willis is that he doesn't fix something so egregious after more than two years?

And I'm glad that Joyce is running away in the last panel. It would appear that she's having a stroke and is in dire need of medical attention; I would assume that she found some?
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>>92940726
Yeah, I think the read is that she freezes and backs up towards the safety of the building. But her posture is so neutral that it just seems like the panels are out of order. Also it's kinda strange that she went up stairs backwards without any sort of stumble.

And yeah the dialogue is pretty out of place.
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>>92938616
>I am almost certain

I'm almost certain that you're wrong.
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>>92940956
>>92938616
Can't either of you post the statute or a case that proves which one of you is right?
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>>92931198

Well that escalated quickly.

You know, in a general comic sense, not the situational one.
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>>92903536
So is there a reason all these girls are able to physically take down badguys fairly well?

Like didn't one of them punch out toe-dad, and now worm-on-face man gets disarmed in half a second like he isn't a threat.
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>>92940633
Nice positioning from the second to third panel.
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>>92941226
>the dark void that is apparently my school
It goes well with the miniature black hole under his nose
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>>92941200
Toedad was barely standing after Amber crashed his car. We know nothing about Ryan except he's the kind of gutless shithead that drugs and rapes girls half his size. He could be drunk or high or just that pathetic.
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>>92941200
Well Amber is implied to just be strong and somewhat active. Same goes for Ruth and Billie to an extent.
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>>92941200
>>92942517
The implication given the previous two strips is that Amber is unhinged, socio-psychopathic, and has probably killed before.
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>>92942684
She's also the kind of person that runs around at night picking fights with criminals so anon's implication that Ryan should be kicking her ass because she is short/fat/a girl doesn't really hold up
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>>92941111

There's no *single* statute -- every state has its own laws, and researching the laws of 50 states, +DC, +territories, etc, is way more work than I'm inclined to do for anything that doesn't pay money.. "Equivalent Force" doesn't seem to be a thing, but "Reasonable Force" is, but RF can vary from state to state, or even situation to situation.
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>>92901451
>Also who the fuck goes by just their middle name?

Lots of people. My wife's dad, his sister and his brother also; two of my Art professors, an ex-brother-in-law, just to name a few in my personal circle, and these people are all from different parts of the country.

Celebs who go by their middle names: Rihanna, Reese Witherspoon, Brody Jenner, (the former) Bruce Jenner, Bruce Willis, Will Farrell, Ashton Kutcher, Dakota and Elle Fanning, Lance Bass, Brad Pitt, Jason Sudeikis, and many more.
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>>92901313
Not to mention he's really really rich, and as we've seen from recent rape cases, that's the one thing that will get you out of trouble if you're a guy.
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>>92940726
>why bother being worried? Hell, why even be thinking of her? He should have already raped at least three other chicks by now. Ryan is a horribly inefficient rapist.
You can tell a story is poorly written when it relies on people making irrational and idiotic decisions to advance the plot.
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>>92943604
>There's no *single* statute -- every state has its own laws, and researching the laws of 50 states, +DC, +territories, etc, is way more work than I'm inclined to do for anything that doesn't pay money
Yeah, but we're talking about Indiana.
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>>92938616
>The former is fine, but Felony Murder is perhaps America's most infamous and awful law.

I'd say Civil Forfeiture is.
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>>92937858
To begin with, by being a woman she has 30% less muscle mass than a common man.

Even if somehow she manages to get those 30% difference, it still wouldn't be so easy. Stabbing someone is easy; i think that's where everyone gets it wrong. A GOOD instructor will always point out that you should run first, and only try to take away the knife of your opponent second. Those fancy tricks simply don't work with knifes, and when the fight even starts you will most likely already be cut about 2-3 times.

Knifes are by far the most deadly melee weapon these days for a reason.
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>>92940611
Here's what Willis had to say about Ryan's re-emergence and future a couple of hours ago.

I blanked the other user names in the screenshot so it would be obvious that this screenshot is just about the comic, and what Willis had to say about it.
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>>92945717
Wow, so that's the end of the entire Ryan arc. That went from 0 to 100 back to 0 in like, 2 nights.
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>>92931912
Sal got JACQUES'd
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>>92945717
So I guess Ryan is just dead.

I would like to see the text of Willis' no death rule. I know the rationale is that because of the time compression, the rest of the strip would be in mourning for the dead character. And Ryan isn't a character who anyone would mourn.

But this makes it seem like he doesn't consider him a person because of his crime. I think he's shitty and did a terrible thing (and that he's poorly written with vague motivations), but it's *because* he's still a person like anyone else that it's disgusting.

And it'll be really annoying as he goes forward and presents an argument for Amber's personhood despite this crime (and others).
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>>92946718
Will look up the no-death rule if I can.

I would love to see some scenes of Joyce at a cemetary, wanting to kick and punch Ryan's gravestone, but there are people watching her and she doesn't know what to do.
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>>92941111
>Can't either of you post the statute or a case that proves which one of you is right?
Yes - and specific to this comic's state, too:
http://www.pottslawllc.com/2016/09/14/self-defense/
"In other words, to properly claim self defense, that party must use only that amount of force reasonable in relation to the force shown upon them, and that party’s belief that the opposing party will unlawfully harm them, must also be reasonable."
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>>92945717
So he never had any intention of giving Joyce agency he in this. He tormented her character for years so that he could keep Ryan as a potential plot hook. And when he did bring him back he did so for the sake of Amber and Sal's arc, not Joyce.

Willis, never write about rape again, you hack.
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>>92947163
For a second, I though you said that Joyce was waiting for Ryan to rise out of his grave (no death rule) so that she could beat the shit out of him.
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>>92947163
Her arm has gotten subsequently more fucked over time so punching all the way through a gravestone and getting a bionic arm to replace hers would be right in line with the progression.

Maybe Ryan's dad could be there and she could paralyze him with the shrapnel. I mean he's associated with Ryan and a parent, he's probably the final boss.
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>>92948844
The final boss would be Head Alien when Joyce realises that this has all been a situation she was trapped in.
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>>92940726
>It would appear that she's having a stroke and is in dire need of medical attention;

If you had read the following strips it's pretty clear that didn't happen.
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>>92940726
>It would appear that she's having a stroke and is in dire need of medical attention
She was just shitting her pants and running for a bathroom.
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>>92947382
Yes, but the actual statute is:

(c)A person is justified in using reasonable force against any other person to protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person:
(1)is justified in using deadly force; and
(2)does not have a duty to retreat;
if the person reasonably believes that that force is necessary to prevent serious bodily injury to the person or a third person or the commission of a forcible felony. No person in this state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third person by reasonable means necessary.

The article you're quoting also goes on to say:

The same duel reasonableness concept applies to the use of deadly force in defending yourself or others. You are justified in using deadly force against another so long as you have a reasonable belief that the force you are using is necessary to prevent serious bodily injury to yourself or others. In other words, you reasonably believe that another person is going to seriously harm you and that your use of deadly force is reasonable in light of whatever means the other person is using to harm you.

No prosecutor is going to stand up there and try to argue that a guy approaching two women with an open knife in hand and blaming them for all his problems doesn't meet a reasonable assumption of serious bodily injury. Arguing on the basis that he dropped the knife would only work if there was a time gap in the encounter, such as Ryan running off after dropping the knife and Amber chasing him down to stab him.

>>92948844
>Joyce beats a man to death with the gravestone of his son

And not one of those small grave markers either. One of those big fancy graves with a base that has a built in flower vase and candle holder, and Ryan's likeness carved on it.
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>>92944164
>it relies on people making irrational and idiotic decisions to advance the plot.

Yeah, because there's no rational reason for Ryan to do this. If had just kept to himself and he eventually got found he might have been able to pull off a reasonable doubt thing in court
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>>92945717
>Probably not gonna see him again

If he's implying that whatever happened to him will never be brought up again or left vague that sounds like a terrible idea. Like you can't have a scene like that and expect not to have any follow up or more details.
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>>92946718

>So I guess Ryan is just dead.

Im betting on Ryan getting arrested and hauled off to jail off-panel like Ross
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>>92946718
>So I guess Ryan is just dead.

But if he was there would still be court hearings for Amber to have to go to, wouldnt there?
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>>92931198
We taking bets on if she killed him or if she's dead? I put $50 with 3 to 1 odds on she murders him and faces zero consequences.
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>>92949744
I just don't know how he survives and Amber stays out of jail.
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>>92949944
I'll take an outside bet that Rachel gets blamed for everything to some degree because of her speech to Ruth while Amber was there.
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>>92950137
Him trying to attack Amber and Dorothy with a knife will probably have something to do with it.
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>>92949944
Given it's legit self-defense with at least one witness, if not dozens, she'll probably get off without even being charged.
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>>92951072
Yeah, Dorothy's reaction is definitely that of someone witnessing "legit self-defense."

In the context of the strip, Amber definitely could've defended herself from Ryan without killing him once he didn't have the knife. This is a person who has beaten up groups of athletes, beat her father into hospitalization, took out a a gunman in a car, and has beaten up Ryan before. If any investigation happened it would become pretty easy to try and prove that she went too far once she got the knife off of him. All her Amazi-Girl antics basically prove that she doesn't fear for her life to the degree of needing lethal force in much more dangerous situations.
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>>92951607
Most people are pretty shocked at witnessing violence in general.

As far as the legalities go, you'd have to prove she's Amazi-Girl first. Also if we're assuming she's using lethal force then the only witness to the attack is Dorothy, who Ryan was attempting to harm. Just curious, are you from the UK? Because your take on self-defense reads heavily from how the law works in the UK rather than in the USA.
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>>92951607
Sounds like a history of violence and instability that will land someone in the nuthouse.
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>>92952036
Dorothy, Ethan, and Danny all know that Amber and Amazi-Girl are one person. Because Dorothy is involved in this incident, she would be legally obligated to honestly answer any questions regarding AG's identity.
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>>92952586
But law enforcement is evil, and the hyper-violent vigilante is a paragon of virtue, so she'd never sell her out like that.
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>>92951607
Dorothy is freaked out, but she's not going to testify against Amber.
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>>92952586
>>92953696
Also if they testified against Amber then they'd also be admitting to being an accessory to her vigilantism.
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>>92952586
I wonder if Dorothy will write about this incident for the newspaper and be questioned why Amazi-Girl was not present to stop the literal murder.
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>>92949457
i think the real hitch is that she could have gone into the building with dorothy, but willingly chose to stay behind to engage in the violence.
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>>92954531
Indiana lacks a duty to retreat.

Duty to retreat is actually a very terrible self-defense concept due to the lack of a concrete definition.
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>>92952036
I'm Canadian and I only get knowledge of the law when there's a popular story and I read the related statues, and there was a time where I was reading lawcomic.com (not an informed stance, but I'm not out here pushing the boundaries of the law).

It's not Indiana law specific (for example she doesn't have to retreat) but that guy went over self-defense and the 2nd bit of the force being necessary is where I'd call Amber into question since she could obviously just beat Ryan up with her bare hands.

And to be clear I'd think this was way different in a real life case, but I basically have to think of Amber as a 7 foot 250 pound Marine when she gets in physical altercations. The premise means that she always has the upper hand in a physical altercation.* In real life even with a lot of training, she probably would've gotten injured fighting for the knife and it would've been much more desperate.

*Ryan even reacts that way when he loses the knife. He knows he's about to get absolutely ruined, even if he didn't expect her to use it. Also, maybe she broke his hand? It's unclear, but I wouldn't put it past Willis.
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>>92953731
This. Even if Amber outright stabbed Ryan to death, she would basically hide that she did it. Or just say "it was the right thing to do." Does it make sense? Of course not, but half the shit in DoA doesn't make logical sense.
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>>92947387
Willis answered a very similar point with this post a few hours ago.

His reasoning has the same tone as the whole 'the universe will bend over backwards to give Becky a happy ending' to me. Basically, good writing and reason be damned, he's just gonna do what "feels good" and suits his apparent lack of future-planning for storylines.
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>>92955303
This makes no sense. Yes, he gave him a scar he will have to live with, but she is still dealing with the fallout of that attempted rape and getting drugged. The fact that she is not able to go anywhere alone without visualizing people as Ryan is a pretty crippling thing for her, and she can't function kinda. So wouldn't it be ideal that that person who caused her pain would pay for his crimes? Wouldn't that give closure to her ordeal and allow her to heal completely? And yes, she didn't wanna solve it, but her friends took up that mantle and she is just along for that ride I guess.
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>>92955303
All I'm getting from what Willis wrote here is:
>The idea that it's important for Joyce to have to deal with Ryan... I really don't like that idea. It's not Joyce's problem to deal with Ryan. I much prefer that Joyce have to deal with PTSD that prevents her from walking across campus alone without being in fear of him coming from out of nowhere and taking revenge. The greatest victory here is that Joyce suffers.
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>>92955303
>I don't like the idea that character arcs need "resolution"
David Willis, everyone.
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>>92955303
Oh look it's another "willis thinks joyce having to deal with adversity is haram so everyone else deals with it for her" plotline.
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>>92955629
Willis doesn't give a shit about Joyce growing or having any agency at all.

I guess having people to take care of all your problems is a form of power fantasy.
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>>92955629
>>92955525
This whole situation is disgusting. It's not that she shouldn't have to lift a finger. It's that she doesn't get resolution for herself. She is going to suffer, and Ryan getting pulled out of her plotline and into someone else's just means that it shouldn't have been her who almost got raped in the first place. It should have been Dorothy or someone else.

Willis wants this to be somewhat autobiographical, but it is increasingly clear that

1. he has never dealt with sexual assault or threats

and 2. he has literally no idea what it is like to be a woman.

We all know he's a hack writer, that he's lazy--deliberately so. But this is a new level of insult.

If the comic hadn't run me off as a fan years ago, that comment of Willis's would do it.

Ryan wasn't Joyce's "problem to solve." But the resolution should be part of her story, not just Amber and Dorothy's.
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>>92955909
It's funny how he touts Joyce as the central character whom the main focus of "Dumbing of Age" focuses upon, yet she's being relegated to a backseat role even in the stories that most directly involve her.

Like, even when "Hey Arnold!" had stories that focused on other characters in the show, there were still stories with Arnold himself at the forefront.

>>92955979
I agree wholeheartedly. The proverbial last straw was Pic Related, where Willis literally had Joyce hand off the role of bringing Ryan to justice to others, two of whom were directly involved in the events that led to Ryan's initial escape.
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>>92956158
>Should that everyone on Earth be so lucky.
What a clumsy-ass sentence.
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>>92956213
Surely, what you are talking about I do not know. False eloquence can be attained perchance, if fucking with sentence structure is your method of writing, or so heard have I.
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>>92955303
I can kinda get the idea that society should catch this guy.

But part of Willis' response sounds like Joyce's reaction to the attack, and it turned out that was an unhealthy choice. Her initial choice was to pretend it didn't happen at all and even tell her friends to never bring it up to her again. It took Amazi-Girl confronting her about the penis drawings for her to open up and tell her to find him. And even with them looking for him, she still had to give a go ahead to do the social media blast.

So, she did have to think about him to take him down, and that does kinda suck, but that's the reality of life*. If she hadn't had a weird vigilante around then he might've never ever been found, and Ryan would've just went on doing crimes. And hell even if she went to the police they might not have done any thing and he would still be doing crimes, but at least some engagement is necessary to try and stop him.

And by making Ryan another completely ineffectual self-defeating villain, it feels like he's making light of sexual assault and rape. Cause, I'd imagine, the way it usually goes is the guy does it as opportunities arise and then lays low and denies any accusations, with the victim trying every fucking option they can to try and get some justice. In the comic, it's a farce that I don't imagine many people would take solace in. It's fun and cathartic to see a realistic villain get their comeuppance, but there has to be some verisimilitude to them.

*Although, maybe that's the point of this comic. That the somewhat shitty realities of life that we have to overcome are fucking bullshit and should be bypassed. Unless we're talking about mundane stuff like bad grades, then you've gotta deal with it in mostly standard ways.
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Tonight, we get fuck-all.

But don't worry, Willis has assured us that, "look it's not tonal whiplash if it's the first strip of a new storyline"

So, if you feel like this is a bullshit cop-out, that's YOUR problem.
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>>92919890
> nineteen-character hashtag

Well her slogan is a twenty-six character hashtag so...

> not #md19ga
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>>92957587
Oh goddammit, this is the Kickstarter bonus. We've seen this one already.

Now how am I going to spend the rest of my night?
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>>92957707
The answer to any question of how to spend extra time is masturbation. Excessive, violent masturbation.
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>>92957587
Welp, I called it ( >>92931438 ).

Still, why jump 3 days later? After THAT?! Are you fucking nuts Willis? And why to Danny? We now have no fucking clue why he's so happy or whatever? Wouldn't he be one of the first to be crushed by what happened to Amber?
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>>92957587
Quick, someone draw Danny's new girlfriend, "Dincha!"
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>>92931392
We don't even know who got cut. Amber might have grabbed the bloody knife out of his hands with her last strength, and he runs away while she bleeds out from a gut wound.
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>>92957771
>excessive
Got that covered.
>violent
Maybe later.

>>92957772
I was about to comment on that. I can only assume we're going to see the fallout relayed through flashbacks or context clues, the same way that we got the full story about Amber and Sal, but regardless this is absolute tonal shift of the most bullshit degree. Like, I can't wait for the next scene in which Dorothy is just lying in bed traumatized by watching Amber gut a man like a fish, and then the next scene is Becky making dinosaur noises to wake up Dina.
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>>92957707
Hmm. Did the Kickstarter bonus strip have the "three days later" thing, or did he remove it for the teaser strip? I think I would have remembered us discussing an upcoming time-skip.
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>>92957587
Jesus. "Tonal whiplash" is the understatement of the century.
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>>92957900
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/326540223/dumbing-of-age-sixth-book-collection/posts/1851865
It would appear so, though we can always check the 4chan/co/ archive to make sure. Which one are we; desustorage?
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>>92957587
I swear to god: If Willis makes it that not a single soul except for Dorothy knows what Amber did I'm gonna flip. There is no way in hell that an incident like that (if she murdered him or just stabbed him) wouldn't be on the headlines of all the schools papers and social media or whatever, especially after three fucking days.
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>>92958041
Yeah, desu is the only one that lets you actually search the /co/ archives.
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>>92957587
"Hey Danny, remember when your ex girlfriends were in a knife fight with a rapist three days ago?"

"UKULELE"
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>>92957587
Please. PLEASE tell me the patreon comments are questioning this time jump and tonal shift. And also leaving us in the dark about that last scene.
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>>92957900
>>92958041
>>92958077
Found it: http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/91231391/#91312750

In other news, today's strip with Amber knifing Ryan is titled "Your princess is in another castle" and its filename/password is "wellyikes". How mature of you, Willis.

I think that's one of Willis' flaws when dealing with heavy subject matter in DoA: He comes off as far too passive for what he's working with. Like, Amber just knifed a nigga in the gut, and all he can muster is a video game reference, "well yikes", and "storyline over".
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>>92958205
>today's strip with Amber knifing Ryan is titled "Your princess is in another castle"

Not only is that a dumb title, I fail to see how it makes sense at all in relationship to that strip. Like is Amber the princess in this scenario (which is laughable if true)?
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>>92958186
I can't speak for Patreon, but here's comments for >>92931198:

>uh, you didn’t need that nose, right

>Ooohh boy.

>I think I prefer Amazigirl to Amber.
>So does Amber. That’s part of the problem.
>Enh, assuming Ryan isn’t literally dead I’m less concerned about him and more concerned about the legal repercussions of Amber beating the shit out of him with no one but Dorothy to attest to the fact that it was in self-defense.

>Hmmmmmmmm. Ominous.

>I have to ask – does Dorothy not have a cell phone with her? Or someone inside the building to rush to requesting help?
>Because Dorothy really has lived a sheltered existence thanks to her parents. She doesn’t know how to react to a real crisis.
>…If by “sheltered,” you mean she’s never seen someone get shot and/or stabbed before, then I’m pretty sure a majority of the population is sheltered. I mean, should her parents have pushed her into joining the military or something?
>If you’re thinking I’m putting her down, I’m pointing out by the standards of the protagonists–Dorothy is one of the few who hasn’t experienced a pretty terrible background that would give them experience to deal with a dangerous or violent person: Joyce, Ruth, Becky, Dinah, Sal, Sarah, Billie, and Amber have all experience with these situations and how to react. Dorothy until now has been kept out of encounters with this kind of evil.

>Whoa…wasn’t expecting that. Was kind of just expecting a well-deserved massive, bone-breaking beatdown. <br> … <br> I’ll allow it…

>I am guessing this scene is not going to be an uncensored slipshine release.
>I dunno, it looks like “Ryan” is getting fucked pretty hard.

>What you did you did Amber.

>…OKAY. Somebody pick up the phone labeled “Trauma (Dorothy)”, because it’s ringing itself off the hook.

>Dorothy has her slo mo trainwreck face on. Poor Amber.

>That, uh, that’s gonna leave a mark.

>On one hand: Ryan deserves some punishment. On the other hand: I’m worried Amber has crossed over a line.
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>>92958186
Eh. It's about 50/50.
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>>92958286
Amber's shirt said "Your Princess Is In Another Castle". That's pretty much it, unless Dorothy assumed that Amber was like a princess.

>>92958290
To continue from that last comment:
>If I’m on a jury, I think we’re well past the point that self-defense is justified even if she’s KILLED Ryan. Not that it wouldn’t be traumatizing.

>I almost want tomorrow’s strip to cut away from this and have the comic not address this for days. Almost.

>I come from the FUTURE… OK, not so much, I more came from the Patreon. I won’t spoil tomorrow’s strip, but I will give you Willis’ tag for the strip: "look it’s not tonal whiplash if it’s the first strip of a new storyline"

>Hey, it’s okay! Ryan’s just really clumsy with that knife. Reeeeeeally clumsy
>So clumsy he got Amber’s fingerprints all over it D:

>Storyline over? Are you fucking kidding me? Okay, fine, I’ll repatreon up. (also because I’ve had Ad Block on for I think literally years because the ads here are a trainwreck and I’m 99% sure malicious. Willis, can you please look into that?)

>Congratulations, Rachel. You’ve convinced TWO people you were right. And only one of them is suicidal from it.

>Did Amber just totally kill a dude? That can’t be good.
>I doubt he is dead. But she done carved him real good.

>This is a pretty good ending.

>Dorothy might not be sleeping tonight. Or ever again.

>Well, looks like Joyce isn’t going to be the only one with PTSD.

>Waitwaitwait. Storyline over? I thought storylines only ended with shots of characters sleeping. <br> …. <br> … I guess Ryan’s sleeping now.
>No no no, I see the problem. BOOKS end with characters in bed. STORYLINES can end however the fuck they want.

>I want this, to me this is justice. You go girl!

>She slices! She dices!

>He dead.
>And nothing of value was lost.

>I know this will likely have negative repercussions but…I’m sorry, the idea of a rapist dying at the hands of an abuse victim does nothing but make me smile ear to ear.
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Something of note: The "Dumbing of Age" Tumblr has a gap between the 8th and the 27th for preview panels this month, so it's possible that Willis might have skipped that length of time because they featured elements that would have been spoilers at the time. I would assume that we'll get our follow-up to these events during this time.

Meanwhile, enjoy some Joyce tits.
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>>92958575
And here's Billie, who appears to have shrunk by one foot during the three-day time skip.
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>>92958612
Apparently this is Carly from Roomies. I guess Willis still had a few old character designs left over, and he didn't have to make new characters after all.
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>>92958205
>In other news, today's strip with Amber knifing Ryan is titled "Your princess is in another castle"

Not to sound Gamergatey or anything, but fuck off to anyone who 1:1 maps heroic princess saving with some kind of sexual conquest based 'rape culture'.

Because that's what that title is implying. Murder is okay, if you're murdering the right people, because all men are rapists who think they earn sex by blah blah blah.
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>>92958286
Joyce is the Princess, Ryan is Mario, thinking he deserved her, because reasons, and Amber is the angry fist of god punishing Ryan for wrongthink (and also rape)
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>>92958575
Yeugh, it's like the yellow dress, but awful.

>>92958612
JESUS CHRIST. Holy shit, I just threw up a little in my mouth. There's shortstacks, and then there's whatever the fuck THAT is.
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>>92958672
Who the fuck is Beatrice?
And what is wrong with her face?

>>92958677
Honestly, I didn't see it that way. I saw it as described in >>92958456, in that it's either the loss of Dorothy's idealized perception of Amber or just a stupid reference to Amber's T-shirt that Willis thought would be deep.
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>>92957587
I've either gotta strangle Willis for writing this shit or myself for reading this shit.
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>>92958331
>Gay man good at colour coordination

It's like they don't even into stereotypes!
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>>92958732
>>92958756
I guess I shouldn't show you what he did to Malaya, then.
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>>92958612
Christ. She didn't lose a foot, it's easily located in her midsection.
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>>92958817
Her sweater is a reference to the level of quality at which she is being drawn!
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It'd be funny if someone made a fuss at the timing of this, what with the knife attacks in Britain.
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>>92958817
The short-cropped hoodie, that Willis CONTINUES to believe is a real popular fashion thing for some fucking stupid reason, says it all.

BAD.
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>>92958893
Willis can easily deflect any bad timing of his strips with the three month buffer thing.
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>>92958612
I got shit last time I did this, but I'm doing it again:
>approximately five heads tall
>average female head height: 9.4" (~23.9 cm)
>approximate height of Billie: 3' 11" (~119.5 cm)
>average female height: 5' 7.3" (170.9 cm)

I know Willis has a thing for shortstacks, but there's shortstacks and there's goddamn midgets.

>>92958968
I forget if he's done it before. Weren't there school shootings around the time that Toedad pulled Ol' Glory from his trunk?
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why do you condone rape /co/?
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>>92959222
It's not rape if she can't scream at you to stop.
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>>92958575
This is more racy than usual. I guess Joyce heard the Ryan news and is going for boys.

No cast either.
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>>92958575
What the fuck is with those shoulders?

Joyce should be trying out for the IU women's lacrosse team IMMEDIATELY.
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>>92958677
>Murder is okay, if you're murdering the right people, because all men are rapists who

Wait.

Regardless of what all men are or not, you do know *this* man is a rapist, right?
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>>92960958
We know he's an inept *attempted* rapist. Your point?
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>>92941226
actually, in fairness, it looks like she's backing away from all the rapin ryans at first, before panicking and bolting.
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>>92958817
This isn't even thicc, this is just a normal girl viewed through a fisheye lens.
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It is late at night, so I'm going to try to avoid getting worked up about the ridiculous "resolution" of that storyline. I just don't have the energy or willpower, and I will literally be unable to sleep if I start talking about this utter horse crap.

>>92958205
>I think that's one of Willis' flaws when dealing with heavy subject matter in DoA: He comes off as far too passive for what he's working with. Like, Amber just knifed a nigga in the gut, and all he can muster is a video game reference, "well yikes", and "storyline over".
In Ruth terms, "oopsi-daisy."

>>92958286
Amazi-Girl is Amber's "good side," so I would assume she's the princess, but AG isn't here right now.

>>92958290
>Dorothy has her slo mo trainwreck face on. Poor Amber.
"Poor Amber"? WTF? Amber is a psycho.

>>92958575
What, so Ryan's dead now and Joyce feels comfortable with cleavage because she's safe? I can see literally no reason for her to suddenly change how she dresses. Also, did her shoulders get bigger?

>>92958612
Jabba the Hutt?? Her width just keeps increasing. And look how long her hair's gotten! Also, her hair scrunchie should not be where it is.

Willis has literally no understanding of the human body. How did Billie become a football player in 3 days? This is ridiculous.

>>92958756
She was briefly character in Shortpacked. She is mute like Marcie. There was a guy saying that Bumblebee is useless in the Michael Bay movies because he can't talk.

I think Willis overestimates how many mute people can also hear.

>>92958817
Did she spend all weekend riding horses? Because I feel bad for her legs.

>>92959095
The shortest girl I know is still 4'9". And she is tinyyyy.

>>92961351
Correct, but she's clearly copy-pasted, based on her head position and literally everything about her body other than that one lifted foot.
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>>92900683
>>92903536
This gave me a migraine.
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>>92962919
>AG isn't here right now.
AG is dead. The bloodlust has been unleashed. There is only Annihila-Girl now. She is hell and wrath and judgment incarnate, and we are all sinners before her.

>What, so Ryan's dead now and Joyce feels comfortable with cleavage because she's safe? I can see literally no reason for her to suddenly change how she dresses.
She is attempting to lure Jacob away from Islamic thots and into the warm, loving embrace of a good Christian woman.

>Also, did her shoulders get bigger?
She's changed her major from elementary education to swolenomics.
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>>92954531
Since Ryan has revealed himself to be an IU student, presumably he could easily follow them in. Although where I went to school you could only get into dorms that were not your own until 9-10 PM. Is there a front desk? I was under the impression the postboxes+Asma were in a different building.
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>>92958205
>It's fucking nothing
I'm done guys. Fuck this comic. It's not worth my time anymore. This dude's shit writing has some much plot wiplash I can't take it. Willis literally drops all his plots at the climax without any resolution or shit. This guy is a hack and I'm losing my mind trying for come up with a reason he did this. Been fun anons. I'm out.
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>>92903536

Oh Christ the art is so awful I can barely tell what is supposed to be happening.
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>>92963900
American dorms will typically have a front desk, which is by the main doors. All other doors are emergency exits. The person at the front desk, if it's a campus concerned with safety, will check to see if you live in the dorm in question. The mailboxes should be just around the corner. If you have a package slip in your mailbox, you take it to the front desk for pickup.

My old college had stickers that rotated colors, with the initials of the dorm. You could only get into your own building, which your room key also opens.

You can hold the door open for people, but to get past the lobby, you had to show your sticker or get checked in by a resident. If you appear polite, the person at the front desk can buzz you in, but you still have to get checked in or show a sticker in order to get into the main part of the building. You can sit on the couch and wait.

With Amber barring the door (if they have the same system), it's ensured that the door is locked.

If Amber were to walk off, Ryan would have no way of getting into the building, unless he waited for someone to let him in, which they wouldn't do, because he's creepy.

And no one would want to go to their dorm with a creepy guy lurking in front of it. They'd be more likely to call campus police, which we assume Dorothy (and/or a front-desk person) has had enough time to do by this point.

If we assume they only need a student ID to get into the building, then yeah, he can get in. Because he's skulking about with a knife, the person at the front desk would call the police before letting him go further.

If he barreled past the lobby and into the stairwell and such, I think they'd have no choice but to do something drastic, like pulling the fire alarm, so they could get people out of the building and into safety.

There's also a slight possibility that his picture is behind the desk, as he had already been banned for a previous incident. Unlikely but still a possibility if he's always this stupid.
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>>92963991
Good on you. Be free, friend. You'll be missed.
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>>92963509
The ritual sacrifice has drastically changed the Dumbiverse.
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>>92931198
I just realized that this is the third villain out of the four main ones that's ended with Amber/Amazi-Girl fucking their shit up.

So all that bullshit about Joyce not having to deal with her own problems is even more bullshit. The shift from Joyce to Amber happened because Willis wanted this scene. He wanted Ryan to get physically brutalized, and despite how fond he is of twisting his characters into what they're not, he knows that Joyce cutting a man to shreds wouldn't fly. So he has Amber do it. Because she's a 'superhero'. Because she's damaged enough that stabbing a man is in character for her.

...goddamn, it's like every time I look at the last few comics, I find another flaw.
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>>92957772
>why the time jump
I'm guessing to get past the consequences of Amber's fight with Ryan. Without spending the next year grinding through all the messy real world stuff.
Ryan gets taken off to prison/hospital. Amber gets arrested interviewed and released. Dorothy has a chance to process what happened.
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>>92958612
>"Now you have something to LOSE."
>"...That being about 15 fucking pounds."
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>>92963991
>>92964148
He'll be back.
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>>92958575
>>92958612
>>92959095
Joyce is approximately five and one-half heads tall.
That would put her at 51.7" (~131.45 cm), or 4' 3" tall.

And yet, that's still more plausible than Billie being a goddamn Hobbit.
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>>92965016
>she's damaged enough that stabbing a man is in character for her.

I'm pretty sure justified self-defense is in character for his entire cast. The problem is that he's sticking hard to the superhero concept. While the initial Ryan plot - let's face it, the Ryan stories are functionally two slightly related stories linked by their villain - is resolved in an implausible but not impossible way, ever since then he's been contriving ways to end things with heroic violence.
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>>92963991
Take me with you.
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Someone go tell Willis that "this isn't tonal whiplash; this is tonal catching-Gwen-by-the-ankle-after-she-gets-thrown-off-a-bridge."
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>>92958612
geez, was the frame stretched out, squashed down? Feels like her thickness was due to a resize and not actually drawn that way
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>>92963991
>This is the straw that broke the camel's back
You must be a glutton for punishment because that's all this comic has been for fucking years now. The only reason I pop up in these threads every now and again is to make fun of it.
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>>92967580
>catching-Gwen-by-the-ankle
That would still rip off her ankle.
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>>92967105
Have you ever considering doing this for some of the other characters, especially the male ones, and seeing how they turn out?
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>>92967708
I shouldn't have to explain this to you but I will. He saying that it isn't whiplash, something that injures you, is whiplash so bad you get your neck snapped.
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>>92963509
Since it's Always Freshman Year, I honestly don't see much changing besides outfit changes. With such a minor time skip, Amber can go back to her Quirky Nerd Girl self, with Dorothy being the only one who knows what she truly is when the mask slips off.

Not that Willis would actually do anything like that with Broken Amber, because that would be doing something.
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>>92970384
Willis likes promoting mental Illness as something quirky and character defining. Amber is a model for all mentally ill drama teens to aspire too.
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