Dr. Strange is really underrated

It pisses me off that Strange is another quipfag but yeah the movie it's alright.

Dormammu could've been better, too.

>>92899199
>It pisses me off that Strange is another quipfag
He's not though. I literally just finished watching it. There are like 3 jokes from the whole character. No one even finds him funny.

Please don't tell me you got triggered from the Beyonce thing.

>>92899123
>Dr. Strange is really underrated
Horrifically overrated you mean. It managed to make dr. strange extremely generic and boring and so by the numbers, it was obnoxious.

The only thing that pisses me off from this movie is the lack of proper magic. Everything else was decent to good. I just fucking hate the lasso-fu they came up with.

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>>92899123
>Iron Man is about an arrogant, desperate man learning there is a world beyond himself and forging relationships with other
I mean, before he was kidnapped Pepper was just secretary to him and Rhodey was just Terrence Howard.

Even Iron Man 2 is about Tony learning to understand why his dad behaved like he did.

>>92899123
Lol is this your first day on the job? This is blatant shilling.

>>92899745
>liking something is shilling
we have long ago reached the point where we are suspicious of any positive reaction to any piece of media, and can only understand hatred towards anything

>>92899610
Everything is science silly, even magic is just hacking the source code of the universe.

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>>92899123
It was good. But I felt the animated one did it better

>>92899817
i actually like that, it has a very DnD-ish explanation to magic, that there are fundamental truths to the universe that proper study and practice can help you unravel for super effects

>>92899446
>by the numbers
>doesn't end in a giant action scene
>ends with a conversation
What?

>>92899123
Any time someone here says anything negative about MCU kino assume it's another butthurt DCuck.

>>92899864
The story line was better in this one. The build up was better too. The live action film had a better final act though, and better visuals.

>>92899123

maybe by "like iron man 1" they just meant "good"?? dr strange was certainly the first marvel movie i've enjoyed since iron man 1.

>>92899864
I strongly disagree with this. The sister felt like just a plot device, not the heart of the story.

>>92899911
Except that was a giant action. With CG and colors out the ass, shill.

>>92900974
Bullshit. This is a giant action scene. Just because it uses CGI mean it's an action scene
https://youtu.be/SWAkEQxPjPs

>>92899123
It's literally the magic version of the green lantern movie from 2008. Prove me wrong.

>>92901479
Green Lantern the movie came out in 2011. The Green Lantern DTV, First Flight, came out in 2009.

Checkmate, atheist.

>>92899123
I think its overrated

thank china for saving it yet again

>>92901358
So are we going to ignore the many times Dormmamu killed Strange and Strange fighting him off?

It's a fucking action scene you stupid shill.

>>92899123
I didn't like it because they made it not really magic. Just science we don't yet understand.

>>92899251
The Beyonce thing was pretty bad though

> one of the themes is the importance of time and patience
> Strange barely practices at all

Completely took me out of the movie

>>92903040
What's the difference?

>>92903086
I took the punchline of that joke as Wong just sandbagging Strange's increasingly lame attempts at humor. It felt like the joke was supposed to fall flat.

Maybe I was just reading too much into it.

>calling an overrated movie underrated

>>92903040
>I didn't like it because they made it not really magic. Just science we don't yet understand.
you're thinking about Thor

Dr. Strange straight up says its magic.

>>92899817
>it's an anon doesn't know how magic works in the MU episode

>>92903040
They made magic as a type of mystical science, exactly as it is on Dr. Strange comics.

>>92899864
Shit taste.

>>92903040
They literally say they gather power from different dimensions to create magic. That's basically how it works in the comics. Or did you think Strange calling other entities names was just to look sound stylish?

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>>92903124
wut

Like that was the entirety of the 2nd act. Shit, he was still learning up till the climax and isn't even the actual sorcerer supreme yet, which personally I really liked. It allows that arc to continue.

>>92903278
It's not good, but it's at least better than the live action flick.
>>92899123
I like that he trained in a matter of 6 months or so. The sling ring thing was fucking stupid. And the humor was probably the worst yet.

>>92903203
>>92903086

the real terrible joke was when Wong laughs at the end. Then the joke goes from plausibly being that Strange isn't really funny with the "did the people who laugh work for you?" line to "Wong has a weird sense of humor and laughs at the wrong things"

>>92903322
Idk, just felt like in one scene he couldn't do magic and the next he was just doing it

I felt like it needed a scene of him "getting it" you know?

>>92903429

I thought the scene of him getting it was when she left him on Everest. Might have been a bit better if Mordo actually had to rescue him the first time though. Even the Matrix with its literal Jesus character had him fail the first jump and lose the sparring match against Morpheus

>>92903429
That's what you would call "pacing" issues.

In that regard I agree with that. The training montage was very short and it felt as if he became extremely good in magic in just a few days.

>>92903409
I kind of like Wong being a warrior-Bodhisattva type who laughs at evil being destroyed good though ngl

>>92903409
>implying
Beyonce is by far the worse.

Wong laughing at the end actually made me chuckle.

>>92903429
He had a scene where he learned that magic was a thing, and at the climax of the movie he only knew a few spells. Between those he had a scene of him learning to use each of the spells he knew individually. I don't know what you want.
There WAS a big jump where he was seemingly much more powerful in the scene with Thor but that should hardly matter.

>>92903670
Not to mention that even in his fight against Kaecilius he was struggling with magic (i.e. his summoned shields malfunctioning) and the Cloak ended up saving his ass.
There's a reason he didn't outright become the Sorcerer Supreme at then end of the film.

>>92903499
>>92903504

>Wong spends the entire movie being stoic and straight faced about everything.
>at the end he suddenly laughs

It was, and mind you I don't say this lightly, the most predictable and unfunny joke of the entire MCU

>>92903780
Did Wong shat on your cereal this morning?

>>92899123
I'm watching it now. It's a pretty bad movie but it's got cool visuals.

5/10 watch on Netflix.

>>92903822

no, that joke was just really fucking bad. Wong was fine outside of that

I straight up forgot this movie existed until this post.

>>92903856
You seem really butthurt by that joke though. I can understand you not liking it, but the worse in the whole MCU? That's just silly.

>>92903884

It's the only joke I can think of off the top of my head where I literally knew exactly what joke they were going to do before it happened. Some of them were boring, or ruined the tone of the scene or something, but it's like the movie read my mind and gave me the exact joke I was already hoping they wouldn't do there

>>92903765
he got lucky with the defibrillator too

>>92903765
>>92904020

was Strange the most outmatched hero of the MCU?

>most MCU heroes face a villain with an Infinity Stone or some other super powerful forceor almost unbeatable plan
>still beat the shit out of them while drpping quips in the Meantime
>Strange is the one with the infinity stone in his movie
>still couldn't win the fight and had to find another way to get the enemy to leave

>>92903922
You must not see many movies then because setting up jokes is something very common. The joke itself is one of the oldest cliches around.
It was done nicely, like I said i got a chuckle out of me, and yes I also saw it coming from a mile ahead.
Maybe you just like your jokes sudden and random? but it certainly wasn't the worst in the MCU. Is setting up a joke that much of a sin for you?

Its a fairly average MCU with quips

of course /co/ is going to hate it

>>92904092

If you know exactly what the punch line is as soon as the setup starts, the joke is bad. Do you disagree?

>>92904082
Yes, but Kaecilius was just fucking incompetent.
>master of the mystic arts alluded by everybody to be incredibly powerful gets his ass handed to him by a newbie and Aladdin's rug

Strange fighting Dormammu I completely agree. Even Star-Lord got into a DBZ fistfight with Ego.

>>92904160
Yeah, as long the execution is decent and in this case it was.

>>92904082
>lvl 4 sorcerer with a reset button vs. a god on his own plain.
Yeah, pretty outclassed.

>>92904182

What was good about the execution? Wong becomes known for not laughing, and then he laughs. That's literally it. What's worse, when he does laugh, the laugh is super exaggerated and the entire scene comes to a halt to focus on it. There's no subtlety, there's no comedic timing, there's no subversion of expectations unless you mean the expectations of a toddler being introduced to humor for the first time.

The movie made a massive mistake by explicitly stating that everything Strange does is in the year 2016. Dude's Sorcerer fucking Supreme in a year. The entire point that The Ancient One makes about years of training and practice and reading is completely undone by the end of the movie. Strange is just inhumanly competent at magic, and any other masters of the art can suck a dick.
And it's not like it needs to take place that far in the past. Just put the outset of the movie 2014 or so and then have a timeskip to 2016. It would even explain the gray streaks that he doesn't have in the beginning of the movie. But don't just have him master that shit easily, give me a reasonable amount of time that I can believe this man can learn fucking sorcery.

>>92904165
>alluded by everybody to be incredibly powerful
I only recall them saying he was dangerous, not powerful. Dude was a cult leader with followers willing to die for his cause, not the sorcerer supreme.

>>92904355
>Dude's Sorcerer fucking Supreme in a year.

agreed with most of your post but he didn't become Sorcerer Supreme at the end

>>92904355
but he isn't the sorcerer supreme yet

>>92899123
>>avoided it cause /co/

Well that's where you went wrong. Don't listen to /co/. Some of these guys are clearly idiots. The same people that will call BvS "kino" and claim it's an intelligent film simply because they don't want to acknowledge the reality that there might be a bad Batman film

>>92904383
Then who the fuck is, if not him?
Because he's the dude who's having sitdowns with Thor, and keeping the Infinity Stone under protection.

>>92904419

Wong literally says at the end

>earth has no Sorcerer Supreme

>>92904419
he's having a sitdown with Thor because he's been given the New York sanctum but he's not the supreme yet

>>92904346
The way he did laugh which was funny. The moment they decided to pull it off after the heated battle that nearly destroys the world. The sudden shift in tone. I'm not saying it was the best joke in the world, but certainly it wasn't the worst ever, not even the worst of the movie it was in.
What I find really funny is that somehow it made you THIS buttblasted just because it was predictable when in reality it was completely harmless.
Maybe Wong really did shat on your cereal this morning and then annoyingly laughed.

>>92904382
He was part of the Masters of course he was powerful plus he had Dormammu's power up at his disposal.

>>92904522
I find it funny that you're trying to insinuate this joke ruined my life simply because I said it was the worst joke in the movie

>just because it was predictable

Predictable humor is bad humor. I guess we're just never going to see eye to eye on this if we disagree on this basic premise

>when in reality it was completely harmless

I agree. Would you care to point out a joke that wasn't harmless?

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>>92904697

>>92899123
The end of the Ancient One's nose is weird and distracting.
Every other character in the movie is even more smug than Benadryl Cumberthunder. Almost all the dialogue is one character patronizing another.
Gah.

>>92903040
You're confused. It's magic, it has a basis in science, and in Kamar Taj they seem to understand it

>>92904697
Well, I never implied that, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone else thought it, after all you're making such a big deal of a simple joke.
>Predictable humor is bad humor.
Not really, but I do agree that we won't reach a common ground.
>Would you care to point out a joke that wasn't harmless?
Sure, my dude. Omelet, "in retrospective", and every other joke Ultron did which made his character come off as weak and diminished him as a threat despite him orchestrating the extinction of humanity. The "you didn't see it comink" which seems like it was the whole reason for Quicksilver's death since no one has brought it up ever again.
For a lot of people "Dance off, bro" is this, not myself though. And that's only for the MCU.

>>92899123
Both of them are just standard hero's journey tales with different specifics. But then again, that's what most superhero origin movies are.

>>92904962
The specifics are way too similar but that's the source material fault.

>>92899911
It's a marvel movie, it's generic and boring and so by the numbers inherently.

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>>92904411
>he didn't understand it

>>92905119
>snydercuck still trying to bait people
it's over, scum, based Wondy finally showed everybody the piece of shit BvS was.

>>92904989
Except the source material is nothing like Iron Man.

>>92905195
You're right.

Iron Man is extremely similar as the source material.

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>>92905137
>0.50 mousebucks have been deposited to your account

>>92904989
People sometimes like to minimize how many elements Lee contributed to his collaborated works, but here we have a clear case where the common thread is Lee's involvement in the characters' creation, and both stories are about a moustached jerk who is humbled or brought low by something, and has to find it in himself to become a hero.

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>>92905255
I wonder where he got his ideas from.

>>92905248
The sad thing is that Wonder Woman also had better imagery.

BvS was seriously disappointing to the point where a movie starring Gal Gadot blew it out of the water with no effort whatsoever.

Your pic is just sad.

>>92905303
Working as a shill spamming imageboards is also a sad state of affairs.

>>92903409
wtf I liked Wong's laughter because it perfectly fit the kind of humor a librarian would have when someone references something about the books he studied that he too noticed and was annoyed by

>>92905338
Then why you do it?

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>people disliked Dr. House as a superhero

feels bad man, I actually avoided the movie for a while since I thought mixing mystic shit with iron man and scientifically explained world would just ruin it all but then on a whim I watched it and found my favorite superhero in the entire MCU

>>92905357
Snyder's superhero movies are arthurian legends that need to be cherished. People don't appreciate them because of the constant smear campaign by paid marvel shills, like you.
I will help the world understand.

>>92905439
Snyder's movies are pretentious shit. For fuck's sake there was nearly 30 minutes of dream sequence in SvsB

>>92899123
>>Dr. Strange is about an arrogant, desperate man learning there is a world beyond himself and forging relationships with others

That is literally Iron Man 1 all over again.

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>>92905439
>"yes, i am a shill" said the Snyderfag
kek

I don't even like Marlel.

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>>92905407
>hugh laurie is too old to play capeshit

>>92905469
t.brainlet

>>92905537
Hugh Laurie would make a rad supervillan though, even without the american accent

>>92905622
>yet another white male villain
Let's have him in the black panther movie, why not. Let just let mandingo take our wives while we're at it.

>>92905677
>brits
>white

>>92905677
stop being triggered /pol/, he has the range to play a great villan or anti-hero at best, I cant see him playing a goody two shoes white bread hero without it being cringe

why dont we just make an all dark skin team of villans to fight the white good guys just to jerk off r/the_donald

>>92905730
Got you senpai.

>Thor 4: The Wrecking Hood

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>>92905677
If you want more black villains then expect more white villains to be swapped.
>Let just let mandingo take our wives while we're at it
where did that come from?

>>92904411
Of course a guy defending doctor strange wouldn't appreciate how kino bvs.

>>92899199
I think he's going to learn to hold his tounge.
It seemed to hit him pretty hard when Wong asked if people only found him funny because they worked for him.

>>92905622

Agreed. I'd kind of like him as like Maxwell Lord perhaps?

Open to other ideas too, just saying I think he'd work as Maxwell Lord.

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>>92906346
>if Iron Man 1 was made on this days people would cry muslim racism over it

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>>92906387
Same with Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones

>>92903322
>Not in MvC:Infinite

>People don't get that Wong laughed because it was a bad joke

God... /co/ really is /tv/ 2.0

First time I watched Doctor Strange I was liking it but I felt it was missing something to make it a great movie.

Then the climax happened with the time going backwards/infinite time loop and I was like "Okay movie, that's fucking awesome, you win."

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>>92906743
You're being dramat
>>92906830

Does anyone have that collage pic we made about Marvel's magic? From the comics i mean. At some point the "MCU 2 afraid of *real* magic!" complaint gets tiring

>>92906743
Blame the American kiddies. The thread became much nicer once they went to sleep.

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>>92906914
Found it, there were 2

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>>92907035

There were some jokes that felt really forced, but I like the movie aside from that.

>>92906498
>I don't like sandniggers. They're coarse and rough and irritating and they spread their vile genes everywhere. Not like here. Here everyone is white and pure.
How did Lucas get away with this?

>>92904448
In the comics the Sorcerer Supreme's prior to the Ancient One had to manage without the Vishanti, who had lost interest in Earth.

Agammato was not human, he was an elder-spawn.

I think maybe the MCU Ancient One had to use Dormammu's power due to the Vishanti being AWOL.

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>>92907035
> tfw Ret-con of Bendis stupidity actually creates neat bit of lore.

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>>92899123
Am I grasping at straws or was when the ancient one describing how spells worked and they were showing other students constructing them...

>>92907674
I hear he and Sam Raimi were good friends back then.

>>92907966
That time Slott was actually pretty based and made continuity better.

>>92903857
Sup /tv/

>>92899817
Okay real talk how is magic not science?
For magic to not be science that'd mean you can't get repeat effects from repeated actions. Which means no one would actually be able to use it, let alone teach it. They'd cast a spell and the spell would do something observably different every time.