/hyw/ HOW'S YOUR FUCKING WEBCOMIC MAN

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Also posting progress on mine webcomic.

Why would I waste my time making a webcomic?

>>92896907
because why not?

>>92896851
I can't even loomis. thats how it's going

Is it really necessary to have an elaborate backstory? Can I just have my characters have normal ass upbringings, or will the readers just spaz the fuck out immediately at the idea that origins aren't the be all end all to my cast?

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>>92896851

Finally. I was waiting for this thread to pop up.

I need a title for an assassin (she's not human) who strangles her victims with her tendrils (a humanoid tentacle monster), snaps their neck, or sucks the life out of them. In history she's described as a shadowy figure that makes no sound, like a void or a plague that enters a room and kills everyone inside without a noise and leaves no trace.

I guess for a comparison think slender man but more ethereal and subtle. Like a plague or a shadow. Like a ghost or a banshee.

I already have her real name, the name her handlers have for her, and even her 'mobster name' but I need a title that has a willowy and mystical feeling. For legends and bed time stories in the world.

Let it die, OP.

>>92896851
based on homestuck and it hurts, i thought I might be able to do a comic without being good at drawing. then i thought more and realized that was fucking dumb and even shitty homestuck drawings are better than what I can do and they're surprisingly decent in a minimalist way.

which thought was right? right now I'm assuming they're both wrong and this whole thing is fucking dumb and why bother but that's probably wrong too sooooo who cares

>>92898011

That is highly dependent on the story in question. Character history provides and understanding of motivations and personality.

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>>92896851
>Implying I'd post my genius online

>>92898024
strangle snap sucky girl

you're welcome anon.

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I'm trying to push out a chapter by the end of the month.

Also typically don't these threads have like a shit ton of resources and links to help fellow autistic artists? Where the fuck they be OP?

>>92898551

kek/10

I meant mystical mythology names, not porn star ones, anon.

would it be okay to have an art style that's on the level of ONE and modern Togashi if I update daily (or at least every other day)?

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>>92898011
Do whatever you like man! I don't see why someone would be upset about that. I think having everything explained is kind of a fault.

>>92898024
Nyx, Greek Goddess of the night, daughter of Khaos - it writes itself.
Vira, and I'd look up the meaning if name websites weren't such a pain in the ass to use.

>>92898077
Art doesn't have to be good, it just has to serve it's purpose. If your art sucks, but can accurately portray the feeling you want to get across, then I don't see why anyone would complain.
This comic 'arc' by plasticbrickautomation is one of my favorite comics, the art isn't the best, but I have no complaints. The author has a sense of direction, and a story he wants to tell.

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Finally getting to the end of this first arc.

No offense, but if you're drawing with a mouse I don't really see the point in bothering with construction lines.

>>92898024

The Dark Whisper.
The Empty Twilight.
The Repressed Death.
The Mangled Silence.
The Subdued One.
The Subdued Death.
The Subdued End.
Lady Quell.
Queller Death.

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So I'm trying to work on background composition for character illustrations. I've been improving a lot when it comes to the main subject (the character) but I recognize that plain white backgrounds are uninteresting...

>>92899492
Thanks, I'll check out arc and see what you mean. It's just discouraging that even "bad" art takes talent/practice/whatever far above my current level, and between guitar, this, real life, getting fit/strong, friends, and my own entertainment, I'm really just treading water. Staying in the same place never moving forward unable to hold on to anything slowly losing the things that make me keep my head above the water in the first place until I'm so exhausted that I have no choice but to let the waves carry away the things I hold dear as I watch myself be pulled along by the tides without even the illusion of control afforded to me by my dreams, dreams I can no longer bear because that second between waking and sleep where I'm not sure which was which is followed by a second where I know, absolutely and completely, with no delusions or bias or anything but stark reality, and every day it breaks me.

>>92896885
I can actually hear the rhythm in my head. Almost feel like brushing off my ableton program to make it.

>>92899882
jk that was like a writing thing for a webcomic or something haha. pretty lame I'll start working on something else and stop posting here.

>>92898024
Something about mist maybe?
creeping death
scourge
pestilence (pretty overdone but w/e, just throwing shit out there)
calamity
shadowdeath (lol)
Taker (maybe add something at the begining, void taker or kid taker or spooky taker use your own judgemnet)


idk harder than I thought really
I dunno what your worldbuilding's like but you could name her after a god of death or some historical figure or folklore beast (if you've got a bunch), having the common name be incorrect can be a good touch

Any extra exercises to help you get used to drawing on a tablet, or just redo the same ones for paper drawing? I'm still having trouble with the pen/tablet/screen disconnect. My circles always slowly drift to the right.

>>92900776
contour drawing

>>92900967
Ah, that's definitely going to address my biggest problem with the tablet, thanks a lot. I still need a second monitor so I can do things like quickposes on my tablet too.

been scripting something

>>92899492

I really should have put this in the initial post but I'd like to avoid actual names of mythological beings that have an identity of their own. I already have plenty of characters that do/and are loose representations of religious or mythological characters but I try to keep their names more subtle than their 'real world' counterparts because they are more based off of them rather than a good representation of what they're supposed to be. Most only ever go by the names of the languages of the races in my story anyways, so it's actually rather hard to tell. There's also canonical reasons for that too but that's spoiler talk. (also the other name I have for another character already lol) But thanks for the suggestions though.

If anything the character in question is basically urban legend/folklore tier and not as 'epic' as say, Mnemosyne or Vulcan. It's a lower tier mythological being. Maybe even creepypasta level of 'fame' despite her actual capabilities.

Kinda like a backwoods serial killer tale you'd tell around the campfire with a little bit of whimsical ghost story.

>>92899680
I like a lot of them but some feel a bit too…'powerful and forceful'. But they are good nevertheless. Thanks.

>>92900169

>Something about mist maybe?
That's the right idea. Something ethereal and like a shadow. Intangeble

>idk harder than I thought really

I know, it's the reason I asked you guys. kek

>I dunno what your worldbuilding's like but you could name her after a god of death or some historical figure or folklore beast (if you've got a bunch), having the common name be incorrect can be a good touch

See first thing above.

>>92901179
>after a god of death or some historical figure or folklore beast

I meant an in-(your)-universe thing, not a real life thing. Like if there is some death god, have the people think it's her or they name it after her or something.

Or like some historical dick killed a bunch of peeps or had some tragic shit happen to him so peasant bitches gossip about how "oh that evil dick tyrant fucker banged some half demon maid and then ruined her life and tortured her or some shit and melted her mouth off with acid so she can't speak or make any noise now but he fucked it all up and now she's super evil and immortal and shit and she'll fuck you up too especially if you keep stealing my god damn CLEARLY LABELLED lunch sack, JERRY, you lazy eyed lunch stealin son of a bitch."

but like I said, i don't know what your worldbuilding's like so idk if any of that could be adapted to your world or not. hope some of this has given you something to work with. or not i guess

>>92899731
this is amazing, is it out yet? blog?

Question.

Would it be a bad idea to have one character go by two sets of names? Starting as one then change to the other as events unfold but some people still refer to him as the first name.

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And here we are ladies and gents... I have finished planning chapter 1 (along with writing the scripts ahead of time).

The Polishing Begins.

Would anyone like to see the pages?(Or not it's better if no one sees it till the Official reveal)

If not you only get to see a sample of what it looks like with this ONE panel.

>>92902191
I like it.

>>92901921
wouldn't be a big deal as long as things are clear and you make sure the reader understands what everyone means (if they are supposed to at that point obviously).

>>92902191
super cool, what are the rest of you retards doing?

>>92902353
Trying, and failing, to get an artists to work with

>>92902191
how did you draw that planet?

>>92902383
>not taking the effort to learn yourself
the dream was dead before it begun, NGMI

>>92902415
To be honest I've never drawn a planet before...

I looked at images of earth and kinda looked to see what i should draw on a planet like this.
- Cloud formations
-Continents with different landscapes depicted by different shades of gray.
-I plan to add a light blur to represent the Ozone
- and whatever else i feel might add a little flare.

To frank I have only a vague idea of what I'm doing, I'm just a guy winging it on my first comic...

>NGMI

>>92896851
It's bad. I suck at drawing.

>>92896851
>>92898669
>Also typically don't these threads have like a shit ton of resources and links to help fellow autistic artists?

Not OP but yes they do usually get posted on the first posts of the thread. Who knows what happened to them this time.

Only one at hand I have is this pastebin of DO's and DONT's
https://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

which gets me to question as well to fellow anons, how good is the option of using tumblr to host the comic? I mean the pic urls are shit so it's viable to just store the comic pages somewhere else and do posts there? Or is all a no-no? I'm not in a good position with money right now so following the do's of this pastebin aren't possible for the timebeing.

I've put 0 effort into it
molcomic.tumblr.com

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>>92896851
Well... I've been working on a thing for a while. Been spending most of the time plotting and trying to sort out character designs.

Buckled down and bought a domain name... but no webhosting yet.

It was originally gonna be a quest but then /qst/ happened and i've been shy about doing it.

>>92902724
Is that guy in the middle a robot? It's a very cute robot.

>>92896851

What happened to the paste bin list of resources and artists?

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>>92902796
More of a faceless goon. Very rank and file trooper type. But I'm glad you think he's cute. He's supposed to be.

He might as well be a robot.

Have there been any links posted for webdesign yet? Usually there's a resources post in the OP.

>>92903002
That's nice. What is your story about? Looks like it's about a sort of militia?

As for the OP sources, I may go search for one old thread in the archive just to post them. No /hyw/ is complete without them.

>tfw feel sick as a dog
>tfw still making progress

I-I'm g-gonna make it

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>>92896851
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on: https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP


>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

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Guys i was looking at Tyrone's channel, and one of his videos sent me to this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDM-LQL8sag

This reminded me a bit of a dilemma i had recently, you see t the other day my little bro showed me a bunch of channels like this that he follows, what surpised me is that in my poor naive country, guys with this level of quality work doing "animation" for the big let's play youtubers of my country and they get a good amount of money from it

little bro has a a channel with a little over a thousand subs, he asked me to draw a little animu profile pic the other day and then told all his subs i drew it

Now apparently their subs want one too and ill get 3 american dollarydoos for each one

i just accepted one request right now to test how this works

is it a good idea to start taking request even if you are not at the level you would like to be yet?

i mean the "animators" my bro showed me were really on a lower level than me but already taking request left and right, but the thing is i have set my bar really high and i haven't reached my goal yet, taking request makes me feel a bit hacky

>Finally drawing seriously and consistently again
>Backwards progression is real

I used to be good enough for commissions. Now I can't even draw a head looking 3/4 view without it looking wonky. I fucked up. Gotta git gud again.

>>92903252
>is it a good idea to start taking request even if you are not at the level you would like to be yet?

Hell yes it is. You are now getting paid to practice. If you're worried about ruining your brand, it's not like you're using your real name (I assume, cause that'd be dumb, but what do i know).

You'll get other peoples opinions, you'll work on things you might not have otherwise, and it can be decent money.

>>92903596
You will make it, Anon

>>92903636
Thank you. I feel so stupid for having let my insecurities get to me this badly. I will get to where I was, and then I'll get even better than that.

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oh hey this is back? marmalade.
I did another comic.

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>>92903141
Space troopers dispatched to a planet to sort shit out. What starts out basic quickly turns out more complicated, as leaving the planet is harder than landing. They gotta sort out what's keeping people from leaving, all while negotiating with aliens, saving colonists, surviving fauna, and figuring out an ancient mystery.

I originally intended this to be a quest on tg, so I had reader interaction in mind. But it started to get bigger than I intended, and /qst/ suddenly became a thing so I figured I'd go the Prequel, Awful Hospital, Problem Sleuth route, and make it a somewhat interactive comic instead. People could make the MC specialize in different things by way of flashbacks to bootcamp establishing the characters skills.

But would doing such a thing be worth it? I've planned it out enough that it could feasibly survive without people giving directions, but I sort of liked that as part of the fun of quest style storytelling I liked drawing stuff on request, and still do.


Additionally there's formatting issues, would I have to do it that one panel at a time style? Should I do it full on pages? A bit of both?

It Hurts!! ending has really inspired me to finally get off my ass and do this thing. I'm just fraught with doubt in general.

>>92903676
looks like it's drawn by a kid

>>92896885
you have taught me who rocks

>>92898011
let the backstory happen organically as you think of it.. just make sure you write it down so it stays consistent

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>>92903141
Not a robot, more of a faceless goon with standard issue equipment. Finding out what makes him unique among/despite being cannon fodder is part of the point of the story.

Have an alien.

>>92898024
call it Thromb or something

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https://audioboom.com/posts/5978281-voice-for-this-guy-s-comic

A friend of mine voice my villain! I hope you love his voice. Also, This comic is non-canon to my comic.

This question is only marginally related to the thread but fuck it. You guys give good feedback.

I'll be doing an on the spot drawing demo from sketch to finished piece using ink and markers. There will be multiple opportunities for the audience to ask questions, but I know not everyone wants to ask a question in front of 200 strangers. I was thinking I'd explain every single thing I'm doing as I'm doing it. Is this annoying? I've always found voiceovers really helpful, but maybe it's not the case for everyone. What learning methods work best for you?

Also I was going to do prizes at the end to reward the people who sit through the whole thing. I currently have a set of Sakura Micron inking pens and a set of skintone Copic markers. Any other ideas on prizes?

>>92901921
Tolkien can manage it, but most people go with more conservation of information

>>92902191
what the... damn..

>>92902724
I can see you going far with this.. though it seems like all faces are pointing both forward and to the side at the same time

>>92903252
wait, how can I... get this money?

>>92903596
sometimes you have to break a bone that healed wrong in order to get it back where it's supposed to go
not me though, I'm fine

>>92903806
Was pleasantly surprised. You have a very pleasant voice mate.

>>92903700
ff, I wish. have you seen how kids are drawing now?

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>>92904186
In a 3/4ths kind of way or a mishmashed potato face feeling the warp overtake me kind of way?

Office work has hemorrhaged my art for a while, I also worry i've grown complacent.

have more wip work in the meantime.

>>92904007
that sounds nice!
>>92904235
Oh! thanks you.

>>92904246
>this is an adult male
how did things end up so wrong for you

>>92903690
>>92903739

Interactive comics are fun, it sounds interesting, and maybe you can play with the style. I don't know if /qst/ is the same, but the quests on /vp/ are intercative and have full comic pages in reaction to it, so it isn't impossible.

As for the faceless goon, I'm a huge fag for those kind of characters so I'm really liking your guy. Best of lucks on everything!

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>>92904186
Man why is this harder than I remember it being?

my webcomic is non existant, thanks to ask

>>92904402
you're gettin' it now. Remember that the nose and brow and stuff like that stick out a little, so when a head's turned, they'll be further forward than usual. The nose won't still look like it's directly between the eyes anymore, right? because now the head's turned, so it'll be closer to the "Far" eye. this is how we keep faces from looking totally flat. i'm currently working on that myself, but with eyes. i'm used to drawing them totally flatly.. but if you can get eyes to look like they're also rotated along with the head, and have shape to them, it looks damn nice

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>>92904402
Office work does that to you.
Not office work per se but college got really bad for me this last semester and I could barely draw anything for days, and I feel I actually went a few steps back on my progress. Now I graduated and I'm looking for a job, I fear for this to be a constant in my life now.

>>92898077
My rule of thumb is that good writing/jokes can generally carry bad art, but not necessarily the other way around. That's how we end up with things like 8bit Theater, which is literally just copypasted sprites.
That said, good artwork is always a bonus.

The most important factor is consistent updates; a slow or inconsistent schedule, or constant hiatus will kill your comic, no matter how good.

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Working on a new page. How's this looking? Specifically the bottom panel.

>>92904640
backwards progress happens sometimes. People waver. you can waver back but you can waver forth too

>>92905105
Wow anon that page looks damn gorgeous

>Specifically the bottom panel.
Painful as hell

>>92900010
do it man. do it

>>92905105
Ayyy Nice Onomatopoeias.

So Dust where do you post your stuff, I plan on posting my first chapter on Tapastic but seeing as you've done this longer than I have what's your opinion?

>>92905201
eew tapastic

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Haven't posted in a while, so I'll do a short storytime of the pages that I have for the current scene. here's page 1

>>92905259
I know right... But Hive-mind has you showing page by page comics. And i don't know a lot of other website i can post on without too strict of a time regiment.

I just wanna upload a ton of them at a time like a comic book someone would wait for weekly or bi-weekly.

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>>92905284
Page 2

alright if you're uploading a lot of them at a time, then at least tapastic's layout isn't terrible.

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>>92905284
>>92905337
And page 3, the current page as of this past Monday.

I have a long way to go to be able to make a half decent webcomic, but my favorite is scrap and topheavy

>>92905569
better get started

>>92905369
I thought bringing the gun into your body when disarming and throwing was a bad idea.
Trigger fingers and clumsy shots tend to fire off when the gun is being handled by more than one user.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi4FekY5kVw

>Break the grip
>Break your enemies balance or cause minor confusion.
>Break the gun or Bust a cap in them...

sometimes I just don't know anymore..

>>92905669
I meant to show the barrel to be pointed past both their bodies during the lift before the slam, but it probably read wrong.
Also, I'm no disarming expert, so I just went on what I've seen on youtube and threw in some embellishment for drama's sake.

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>you will never find the perfect artist qt to collaborate with on a comic
>your art will never be able to live up to your vision
>the best years of your life are gone
>it's only downhill from here
>more bot followeres on social media than real people
>single digit daily views

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>>92904365
Thanks Anon. I'm definitely open to experiment more. Maybe when its less midnight and the thread is still up I'll post more art.

>>92904479
I've been working in a bit of a vacuum for a while now, its nice to get some pointers again. Yeah I'll definitely work on that. Have another quick doodle.

>>92904640
I sought out opportunities to work on my art outside of my job like trying out in a OC contest, but work got in the way of that ultimately. And as it got shittier it just got harder.

I'm actively trying to make it more important in the wake of losing my job.

I dunno... My job didn't used to get in the way of my art... but the more miserable it became the more it did. I feel if you do work that is at least, stimulating without being taxing, you can make art one of the things that rejuvinates you at the end of the day.

Its easier to mix art and work when work doesn't make you bored or stressed.

>>92905754
>>92906035
Wait and hope. It's a slow path but you can all do it!

>>92906210
wrong, statistically the majority of us won't make it.

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Posted these two in a previous thread, trying to get the rest of the character's designs figured out.

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>>92905815
Here i tried my best to red line a bit.

>>92905201
I've just been posting mine up on Tapastic too, hahaha, figured it was an easy place to start!

>>92906271
That's why you gotta work hard as fuck and buddy up with bigger artists for exposure

>>92906568
Damn, son. That's pretty slick. That does read much better.
Though I'd omit the capping of the ass in this instance.

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So my computer hard-drive died and everything was deleted off of it, so I had to trace this page from the earlier previews I posted here.
Anyways, are these background lines too sloppy?

>>92906713
your style's gettin more refined, you've been studying?

>>92906751
Every so often I watch new, various, or random tutorials on art to see how other people do things differently, though I'm guessing it's more likely a side effect from drawing the same characters over and over again (mostly separate from the comic in sketches)

>>92906713
wow, that really fucking sucks. i hope you didnt lose too much
i've had to trace before but only because i accidentally saved the smaller preview size version of something over it

>>92906839
my hardest losses were the two commissions I was working on (which means I had to think of a difficult explanation of why their pics were being delayed yet again) and my gigantic folder of women references and porn.

I have question for writers. how do you do it? I've been trying for years and literally cannot get a single first draft of anything finished. I've tried analyzing stories I enjoy, I've read books about writing, and written several pages worth of very small individual scenes involving different characters from different ideas, but I can never piece it all together.

where are you, and what time of day is it and what mood are you in when you actually sit down, focus, and write a good story? cause it seems like the act of actually setting out with the intention of writing something is the biggest thing that prevents it.

I'm an illustrator and I've tried telling myself that the reason I'm having trouble is that visual art and writing are two different disciplines and I just need a writer, but plenty of artists write their own comic strips and those fucking faggot Japs can write and illustrate like 80 volume epics all by themselves and it just blows my fucking mind. how do you do it.

>>92906909
the pain of it all. gotta back up, man.

>>92907044
mostly i roleplay, except by myself. which is how I do everything anyway
writing is basically just taking what should be a boring and terrible version of a fun thing and making it work, in a way that other people will enjoy reading later despite not being able to participate. but some part of them will wish they could
just sit and imagine what you'd do in the place of every character. then once you've gotten that all down, the harder bit is writing things no actual character decided, like just things that happened by chance. but you'll start to go back to their POV and think "i sure hope such and such doesnt happen" and you as the writer can go "hahaha, it will. now you have to deal with that"

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>>92898070
Nothing is over unless we say it's over, senpai

>>92907053
I had about three years worth of backups and it waited until my computer died to tell me that all of them were corrupted.
Do you use Acronis True Image?
Don't.
Use anything else except this piece of shit.
>>92907044
What aspect of writing are you stuck on?

>>92907044
I've only been able to do that the last 2 years or so and the only reason for that is I sat on my ideas so long I finally had enough material and then I combined ideas from my stories I knew would go nowhere. I don't know, I take inspiration from work, friends, personal issues, I keep in mind to remember these things as soon as they happen. The experience of one's day is a prime resource for writers.

>>92907169
shit i've been there before, but thankfully i didn't ever have to rely on those backups.
also it was an external drive, and the reason it got fucked up is i didnt hit 'eject' before turning it off.

>>92907082
that sounds like an excellent approach and I will try it. I think my problem is finding the proper way of establishing a plot. Sometimes I read (or watch) stories and when they really engage me I feel like I can imagine my own stories with those characters involved - which I guess is the same thing that inspires people to write fanfiction. I want to figure out how to establish those characters and situations on my own.

>>92907169
>What aspect of writing are you stuck on?
I'm not sure how to explain it. I always come up with these small ideas or scenes that feel like what would be incomplete parts or scenes from a bigger story. They involve characters I have imagined in my head already and have previously imagined in other situations as well. So for example, I might have two characters fighting about something. I can imagine where they are, what each of their motivation is at that moment, etc. but I can't figure out what leads up to that. I try brainstorming and just imagine what happens next, but my mind just goes blank. I'm just not sure how writers progress from moments like these and eventually turn it into a full story with themes and symbolism and shit.

>>92907193
I do that too. I try whenever I can to see potential story ideas in the interactions I have with people, the places I see and what I observe in the world in general. I think I might just be intimidated by the idea in general; I've tried writing shorter, less complicated stories and even short little comic strips and I can't see them through; that's what has me so discouraged lately. but yes, every moment is valuable.

thank you all for your advice :)

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Just this so far my comics will be heavily focused on demons

>>92907724
looks like it needs to be heavily focused on loomis instead

>>92907755
Genuinely curious what does that mean? I'm sure you could tell I'm a young artists never have I came across the word loomis.

>>92907911
s'thename of an art lesson book guy

>>92907911
>too innocent to even get offended
sweet child, how old are you

>>92907925
>art lesson book guy
this is why your comic is trash after 9 years coldfusion. your mind even thinks like a teenager, did you drink a lot when you were young or something to stunt your cognitive development?

>>92907755
I shall do some much needed studying thank you for the advice stranger :)

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I was thinking of opening the very first chapter with something like this

The first panel would be really long so you'd have to scroll down for a bit.
I might redo it but with more of a chase going on, although I'm not sure how.

>>92908276
your 4s are funnylookin
i like the angles in these thumbs but it's hard to know anything more about it at this point

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>>92908301
Just wanna kind of set up that this is kind of an alien world full of bug monsters, and that this one dude is a spider and a hunter

I was thinking a hunt would be a nice way to open it.

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anyone else hoping their writing will carry their bad art and someday some artist will be so impressed with your work he'll team up with you?

>>92908530
would you settle for any artist?

>>92908530
hey if ONE could do it so you can

>>92908596
ONE has created a generation of retards who rationalize their laziness with a pipe dream. no one is going to draw any of your cringe tier writing

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>>92908666
>Satanic trips
Damn son.

Anyway, I'm personally too selfish to let anyone team up with me for a story. But if I did I would do it by paying the artist from the very start. And tbqh that should be the best option if you can't draw for shit and have enough money, and that sad pepe anon should consider this option.

>>92907044
I just close my eyes and imagine the world and the characters as vividly as if they were real. Like daydreaming but focused on what you want to write. If you've got a clear vision of the characters and the world their in, stories will basically write themselves. Start from there and start developing the main thread once you feel more comfortable.

Alternatively, you could come at this the other way. Once you've got your characters and your world, start at the end. Imagine a payoff or some big scene you want to write, work on that. Once you have it, it just becomes a matter of filling in the dots. The ending is almost always the toughest bit to write in my experience so having a good idea of it from the start is great (plus it lets you really layer on the irony and foreshadowing and whatnot).

Either way, write down every single thing that you think of, then come back to it later to decide what to keep and what you want to happen, then rewrite it. And make sure to go through it from the beginning every so often so you know it all makes sense and stays engaging and all that.

>>92908927
are YOU a boy or a girl? THIS is important

Oh and

>>92907044
>I'm an illustrator and I've tried telling myself that the reason I'm having trouble is that visual art and writing are two different disciplines and I just need a writer, but plenty of artists write their own comic strips and those fucking faggot Japs can write and illustrate like 80 volume epics all by themselves and it just blows my fucking mind. how do you do it.

The japs have assistants and shit, plus they have a super shitty work culture so don't look to them for career advice.

It's totally fine to just be an illustrator, they are totally different skills. It's always going to be better to be both, in the same way a decent guitar player who sings well is in higher demand than better ones who don't, but there are shit loads of writers who can't draw so you'll be fine.

>>92908985
and do you want men or women?

>>92906271
Not with that attitude

About halfway through the first part of our comic. Starting a new chapter next Friday. Could have a chance at a real publisher thanks to a cool guy I met at a con. Slowly growing a devoted readership. So things are going pretty well.

>>92905105
Looks good. Maybe nudge the colours of Urchin & Princess towards red, to make them a little warmer? Certainly Urchin at least. This would help them pop out a little more against the desaturated cool blue-grey of the background, and tie in with the warmer red and yellow "AAAA" and "Krash!" of panels 1 and 2.

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おはよう /co/

I would just like to inform the kind friend that reviewed my fist comic that I am coming out with a new one today or tomorrow, and i would like to get a reservation for a review by him.

carry on.

>>92911567
which is yours?

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Almost done with this chapter. Took longer than expected due to finals coming up. I don't see my time freeing up in the near future, but I'll chip away at it when I can.

Pic related, it's a panel I'm currently working on.

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>>92911619
im sorry. I cant tell you now. I dont want to shill my comic a 2nd time because that would be cheap. >~> Or you could search my name on twitter if interested.
>>92912306
Give me blog and I will follow! I like the colors and character design.

I need to get back to work for my 1 fan! Last post for now.

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Hey folks, just fucking around here because the Sisters hit 476 pages of content and we're nearing the end of this arc.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapas.io/series/The-Sisters

>>92901921
Just have to make it clear, and one of the easiest ways to do that is to show why and to also show how stupid it can be. The bad guy for my first story arc went by a cover name very close to his real name--because nobody was looking for him directly in the group he was infiltrating, so he could be something close to the familiar. Now in the present he's referred to by people who did figure how his deal as Con-guy rather than Connor or Conrad; and they think it was pretty stupid of him to hide under a name like that, even if none of them know why.

You want to minimize confusion.

>>92898024
The Breath Drinker
Or by association, could just call her a Boo Hag. People don't get to pick their titles, and anyone who knows what that is proper would be scared while those who don't will think it is stupid.

Interesting topic of names going on here.

I think a lot of this also depends on genre and setting. In a fantasy setting, you can have the Prince of the Dwarves, Heir to the Throne Under the Mountain, the Foe-Biter and Bane of the Foe's of Durin's Kin. In a more modern thing you have Davis from Accounting who goes by Dave on the dating sites, namefags as Chip'n'Dave on /vp/, and wishes he had a cool name like Tyrone.

In fantasy it can be read like a litany of ones deeds and accomplishments, in a more modern setting it is compartmentalized based on who is interacting with the character. If that character is our focal point, that's less of an issue because we'll get different people call them different things.

Anyone remember that one webcomic about some kid and his pet cat dying and turning into a ghost? What happened to that guy?

>>92913872
I spoke to him weeks ago, he's doing well. Studying and practicing really hard.

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>>92908530
An artist teaming up with you is a pipe dream.

But perhaps your personal super comic that's made by just you will inspire great artists to draw you some awesome fan art at least.

>>92908530
Pay an artist.
No one's gonna put in their own blood, sweat, and tears make your dreams come true for you.

>>92914072
To be honest the idea of teaming up with a writer is great, I'd do it if my comic wasn't being made.

My biggest worries are that my writing skills are nowhere near what I can do artistically. Right now alongside studying art in general, I plan on enhancing my literary skills to help add the extra UMPF I need to make my first comic alluring.

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I haven't worked on my videos for like a week. I think now that I'm so close to finishing them I'm getting more nervous about it. When I'm dealing with small individual resources it's easy to fix mistakes but when it's something so complicated and investment heavy it becomes really stressful.

How do I get into the mindset to just FINISH things without getting stressed out about it? I'm confident with my art and animation skill but there's no way for my writing/delivery to be effectively criticized out of context so I know the only way to really move forward is to just finish it and move on but just can't get myself to do it.

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I haven't gotten any actual help from these threads so I mostly just come and post and image then leave

>>92914988
Cute!

>>92914988
Ouch Lucy...
You could always ask for help you know, posting a character isn't enough. What's the comic about, what's the audience, what genre, what are you doing in this comic storytelling persuasion education... etc.

I'd be willing to help because we both learn from each others mistake, that how Humans and in this case artist improve. But you gotta show me a page or a plan... a cute character isn't enough.

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What are your preferred methods to improve on writing?
On the subject of writers and artists,
If I had to pick between being a writer or an artist, I would definitely say art is my stronger suit. I've voluntarily drawn for a fanfiction story though, because I was a big fan of their story, and it wasn't too long. I really liked that dynamic, because we were both fans of the original book. The book gave a lot of liberty to characterizations, it wasn't super descriptive in terms of looks, background story, and the aftermath. At some point it kind of felt like we drifted too far from the source material, so why not try making something original? I lost touch with her, but if she ever wanted to try writing a comic, I would not mind drawing for her.
Maybe you can ask Vigor Mortis, or the Circle Jerks team, how they met and work with each other.

>>92914803
The sooner you post your video, the sooner you'll get fan art (from me at least). I mean I'd do it now, but give me something to work off of!

>>92915443
It's just my three protagonist getting into trouble due to their personalities and traits, I want to make it episodic. So in one chapter they're discussing over cheese and in the other there's a mecha battle that destroys half the city. I want to be able to have this creative liberty

>>92915666
So lets see... you don't have to worry about story, since the comic can be one situation one day to the next.

Also again whats the story here, what do these characters do? Are they superheroes, ninjas, pirates, ghost? What's the world like is it big, what's the era of the world future, past, present? Did you plan out what the first episode is like? Can we see a sketch of the environment? The people? The powers? The villians? The plot? Storyboard?


I know this sounds complicated, but you gotta start somewhere. Just telling me the 3 characters have conflicting personalities isn't enough. How does this affect their world and them? If it's like an episodic comic this'll be easier...

Just make a page or two to the best of your abilities and show me what you're doing...

If you were a writer and sent me a description like this, I'd be flabbergasted...

>>92908666
this. there are more ridiculously rich football players than webcomic artists who made it

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>>92915632
>What are your preferred methods to improve on writing?

Mostly? Reading.

An example from life; my father runs an accountant office and he had to outright tell one of his assitants to read some fucking books because her redaction skills were shit and she was making awful paperwork.

I'm not joking when I say reading books is a huge help when it comes to writing, because in a way you learn how to work dialogues and descriptions that may help either your artist or yourself when it comes to what exactly do you want to show on the visual aspect.

Of course you have to be picky on what do you read tho. You won't take Twilight nor 50 Shades as the greatest example of literature to base your dialogues on (unless you want to do a shitty teenage drama comic).

So after you read some stuff, then you practice your writing. You will see how it comes out all by itself.

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>>92908530
My writer wrote fanfiction for me.

Granted he wrote fanfiction of my comic then took over but you don't just expect to attract an artist by existing. You have to bribe them.

Finished my notecards laying out the first issue. The next step is actually writing the script. I'm so damn excited.

>>92912515
>I like the colors
cheeky. that is amazing "coloring" though. That fantastic use of broken-up pieces of solid shading.

>>92913628
Glad you're still around! Man Erin is just not having the best of luck lately.

On the topic of multiple names, I mean you got it great with your Aethon-man-eater guy. I'm reminded of the instruction manual for zelda 3, wherein the japanese version for the first time expanded his name from ganon to ganondrov, and the american one went extra distance and decided to bullshit up two (pretty cool sounding) aliases, Ganondorf Dragmire and Mandrag Ganon, which they also bullshat up a meaning for. Sadly the incorrect romanization -dorf has remained, but people are aware the rest is non-canon.. but it SOUNDS cool, and you probably wouldn't get confused about who those two different names referred to since they sound similar.
Meanwhile I used to get confused as fuck about who "Jack" Kennedy was.

>>92913984
Glad to hear it. I liked that comic, but I stopped checking when it was clear it was done updating
>>92914233
>my writing skills are nowhere near what I can do artistically
I mean, they'd almost have to be. At your art level that's asking too much, you'd be some kind of savant if you could write just as well.

>>92918076
Your art is quite nice. What's your comic?

>>92915666
oooh this sounds good.

>>92916919
How'd someone with poor english skills get hired in the first place?

>>92919148
She was doing professional practices at the time and back then they just asked for math and knowledge on the required software, I guess they just took some basic redaction as a given because of her grades or something. She stayed on full time with pay after her practices ended but first she had to learn how to redact.

>>92910107
Best of lucks anon!

no one here is going to make it, why do you keep making these threaeds

>>92915632
Thanks! Yeah I guess I'll use my "fans" as a motiv to start this. I've got a surprising amount of fanart as it is so I wouldn't want to let anyone down. I guess I'm just worried if the first episode isn't so great everyone will lose any interest they had.

And as for your question, I agree with the other anon. Consumption of other works in general can help tremendously if you're analytical and observant enough. Whenever I'm trying to plan out stories or dialogue I try and think of a really "satisfying" similar example from other media and try and figure out what made it so effective and why.

For example the comic I'm working on is about a team of newbie space mercenaries gradually unraveling the plot of an alien menace and following his trail to hunt him down. To help make sure the story was enticing and fun I tried to think of what made "Men in Black" as enjoyable as it was since it had a roughly similar plot-line and themes. Not exactly fine literature but it helped me streamline the story tremendously. Obviously you don't want to straight up copy things though.

>>92920967
I will make it or I'll die.

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>>92920967
Mostly because it's a hobby...

>>92919071
Yup, and if i plan on to "git gud" I have to read and improve my writing skills or else... NGMI (not that worried though...)


Anyone else having this much fun after the planning done, I feel all giddy that i can finally refine these pages.

I'm also not posting more than the first 5 pages...

>>92921103
better get those funeral invites ready

>>92921161
you're all invited to my funeral now who wants to be my writer?

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>>92921272
>who wants to be my writer?
stop leading us on, this is the artist equivalent of "don't hit on me silly boys XD", replace boys with writers. artist/writer pairs have a 99% failure rate, you only have yourself to rely on

>>92921392
nice bait then

>>92921147
how many total pages, and what's the ETA?

>>92921582
3 have been polished so far, by the 14 of the month I should be close to completion.

17 more to go.

anyone have story ideas about a boy falling in love with a girl?

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>>92921630
slow and steady

>>92921716
That's so broad. Is it just a normal romance story? What's the setting? What type of characters? What location? What time period?

>>92921893
any, I think a broad general prompt would be fun and light for the individual creators here to work on and share.

>>92921716
Hmmmm what if they have to work together on something because they're the only ones left unpaired.. some kind of competitive thing, or maybe...
maybe they're both young adventurers looking to cut their teeth, but the quests board only has shit too high level for them, so they reluctantly decide to work together.. and surprising everyone, instead of bickering, it turns out they work perfectly together right from the start.

>>92922268
then as they get older, the boy feels like they're losing their spark. in a bid to rekindle their passion for one another, he plans to confess his feelings to her, only to find out she was cucking him with his best friend.

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>>92922737

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>>92918921
I posted this last time, but here's another panel that has that same shading. Don't know why I do it like that, but it just feel right.

>>92923410
it must take forever

>>92923448
This is true. That's why I avoid brick walls, but at the same time, it looks best on bricks.

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>work on comic for 30 minutes
>lose focus and get distracted for over an hour
how the fuck do people do it

>>92923852
>how the fuck do people do it
30 out of every 90 minutes. that's still pretty good

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>>92923852
>draw for an hour
>decent looking sketch and want to finish it
>get tired and go to sleep instead

>>92920941
Thanks!

>>92913628
do we have any idea of how many arcs total? I'm in no hurry for it to end....

>>92923852
I watch/listen to documentaries or podcasts while drawing. It's just interesting enough to keep me from surfing the web but not so much that I lose interest in working.

>>92919100
http://www.olympic-dames.com

>Y r they all pregnat

>tfw I reply to myself and 90% of the posts in this thread are me
it's so dead

>>92926022
welcome to my world

>>92926022
If I were motivated enough to do anything other than sleeping and eating, I'd post some of my work in this thread.
But then again, that'd mean that I'm not scared to share anything with the world.

>>92926048
there can only be one

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>>92913628
damn, I just blasted through this.
I think the overly stylized body types could be cooled down a touch, but that's obviously a personal preference.
Otherwise, its fucking great. I like the story, like the characters, like the art.
you are gonna make it

Also, are we hitting on B's backstory soon? We are seeing some hints from Guy-vision but you've gone and made me real curious

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>>92926048
I'd post more but I'm just working on writing and boring technical stuff.

So I guess here's a look at all the pre made assets I've done for Dupe's head. I'll probably make more later but this is all I've come up with for now.

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>>92926967
Also working on some graphic design. This one specifically is for the "featured fanart" segment of the videos I'm working on. I'm trying to make it look like a menu from a 90s playstation game.

Going to hand draw the logo next.

I think when this thread dies we should hold off on these threads for at least a month. There's just not enough content to hold them every day.

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>>92928632
>at least a month

>>92928632
bollocks. they should become a weekend thing. most people update at least once a week, so it becomes a place to upload your latest update. and it's more consistent that way

>>92928632
I think most people are just confused by the OP image.

I didn't realize it was the thread for a while. If I don't see the image I just forget the thread exists.

>>92928956
What should the new image be? I'd be happy to make one.

>>92928632
>at least a month

Why do retards say shit like this? Who do you think you are?

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New page of west tree!

I swear I'm almost done with this next animation and I can get my comic out of hiatus... again.

>>92928978
Hey that's a good idea, a brand new one. the old one was a little stale
as long as it says how's your webcomic, that's fine. and make sure that's something people can ctrl-F in the catlaog.

>>92929185
do yourself a favor
stay on hiatus

>>92929185
any more*
aha*

also what in the litebrite is going on here?

>>92929344
You'll see :)

>>92929252
Well I want specifics. I don't want to go through the effort to make one only to have everyone complain about it and have it not used. Should we stick with the same colors? Should it take design cues from something in particular?

>>92929810
I'd appreciate similar colors at least. Maybe blue background this time instead of red, with red letters instead of blue... something really visible and legible. maybe still a yellow circle in the background

maybe some kind of little drawing of a face in the corner

>>92928805
I honestly wouldn't be averse to these threads only staying up from Friday - Sunday. It's a hassle keeping the threads alive throughout the week, and this time is when we get the most traffic anyway.

>>92929958
i'm happy with the absolute most we can get, we've never had an unproductive thread. but i think weekend sounds best, with the caveat that anytime a thread dies on the weekend we make another, even if it's sunday evening.
After all, the activity has never died to the point of tons of bumps (a bad sign), it's more that everyone goes to bed at the same time and stops bumping entirely.

it's settled then, these threads will be reduced to once every 2 months. say your farewells, make your peace, let it die

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Small wip update on page 3 and 4, the last panel there was giving me some trouble. As well as page 4's speech bubble.

I like the idea of a weekly thread, but if I see one during the week I'd probably post in there too.

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I think this belongs to this thread

>>92930331
Aw that's sad and here I thought I'd get to see people grow their abilities so I'd have something great to read while I'm bored...

>>92930754
yo. pips. did you not notice the 'let it die' indicating this is our shitposter?

>>92930692
why does the text appear to have been erased and retyped?

>>92930861
I know, but I have a hard time expressing sarcasm in text...

>>92896851
I HAVEN'T STARTED IT YET ASSHOLE ONE DAY WHEN I LEARN TO BE A FAMOUS SUPER GENRE-BENDING ARTIST I WILL

>>92930917
you gotta push it harder. more over the top

>>92930935
>haven't started
>wants to start once he learns
>you learn by starting
this lazy retard's NGMI

>>92928978
The point of my post just went right over your head.

I didn't recognize the image because it is new.

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>>92931061
>>92929876

Regardless I tried throwing something together that's at the very least more easily read than the op pic in this thread. I might do some others or change up this one later if anyone has any ideas.

>>92931218
Nice!

...now i wanna make one... BUT i gotta comic to do!

>>92931218
I don't hate it! now i'd like to see a lighter background (maybe pale yellow in the middle?) and darker red letters for better contrast, and the fingers and/or the pencil appear to be flat, but overall this is a great idea. the iconography.. the writin... the swirly shapes.. good times.

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Taking a break from my main comic to do a little comic.

>>92932766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoHGTzqJTM0

>>92932766
>how should I tell her
m'lad, I knew it from the first panel.

>>92932766
I swear I thought the answer would be "I love dicks"

>>92932766
are you a fujoshi?

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I think i know why manga artist tend to focus on character, and exclude the background if it's not important for the scene...

>>92924517
Overall, 9 arcs are planned, though the last two could fold together into 8. We're doing pretty good for one arc a year, and honestly its pretty good portfolio material. We did get an agent because of it.

But yeah, three in-universe years.
Spring (Conrad), Summer (Aethon), Winter.
Spring, Summer, Fall.
Winter, Spring, Summer.

Honestly the next arc will be nice, more direct conflict and stakes for Jam and Beatrice. Plus the kids having been getting into shape with Craig for the rest of Summer and Fall.

>>92926488
>B's backstory.
We touch on it more next arc, as Beatrice's character this arc is her trying her best to take control of a bad situation and coming to realize she's bad at that. Mostly because she put Guy in charge and she's been very shady and let Craig slip away. Next arc is her coming to terms, and the fourth arc is really about her trying to fix her backstory--in a bad and destructive way, because she isn't great with doing things any other way.

And yeah, it is a personal preference situation. Works better in some scenes than it does in others, but thanks for reading it.

>>92919043
Erin's character is to be the worst possible person out of the three, and we'll get into the heart of that more next arc. But given that she apparently had sex while underaged with one of her dad's friends, and Scott only dated her because he thought she had a penis, and the whole Conrad fucking her so he could try to screw over her dad---she doesn't have great luck in general with love which contributes to her being more okay with being a shitty person to people in her life. So Dan's fucked.

>>92930331
Fair enough, about as comfortable as I am posting here. Nice to see a shift in quality and who is posting. I'd keep in touch more but who cares, plus busy with other shit. You guys keep on doing what you do, here's hoping you have fun doing it and tell a good story.

>try to imagine a scene
>nothing comes out
>try to write
>mind is blank
Did a lifetime of drugs and alcohol destroy my brain? Anyone else struggling? I might be retarded...

>>92933613
>Did a lifetime of drugs and alcohol destroy my brain?
It can be, yes.

I personally just struggle to set things into motion. I can write stuff as if it was a wiki summary and bios and draw stuff but as for actual story I never know how to begin and drive to the next point.

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Gearing up to draw a finished character sheet. Mostly having fun.

>>92933552
>we're only 2/9ths of the way in
thank god. I always worry every time i hear 'finale' even if it's just a "season" and a LOT of great comics feel like they end too soon.
speaking of, that review you wanted to finish before I finish? I'm in the home stretch

>>92933552
>Erin a bad person
Honestly I still don't see it. Everything bad in her life seems to be something she went into with good intentions and got screwed by someone bad.. I guess I'm just not noticing her being shitty to people in retaliation. Even this thing in the car where she refuses to spill what happened, that feels like a selfless act.
>fair enough
that wasn't a serious post!!

>>92933613
get in bed. get sleepy. the scene will come later, but stop trying to force it
>>92933767
I'm loving this guy more and more.

>>92933767
>Life's a nightmare

poor faceless goon, I want to protect him so damn much

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>>92932843
>>92933447
Made me laugh harder than I thought it would.
Because it's hard huh! Then having to draw it at different angles while having to keep size consistency.

>>92932880
He's not actively trying to keep it a secret

>>92933251
But that gives just a glimmer of hope for her, you know, 'cause maybe you can be straight but still love dicks? Is that possible??

>>92933336
No, just all my punchlines seem to be gay

>>92926967
>tfw Dupe has no eyes
>tfw mirrors aren't real

>>92929274
>>92929185
man why do so many anons hate you dude?
Your comic seems harmless enough.

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>>92934557
Actually i think the main problem is I'm really putting myself into this comic and I'm having fun doing it.

But I just think I'm going too slow, and i need to increase my output...

>>92934557
This is funny as hell, man.
>>92934871
Don't open the wound. Nobody has ever asked that question of anyone and been glad they did

>>92935010
i want to squish that ladybug

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>>92933939
>>92934414
With any luck you'll get the chance.

This is just a quick run through, haven't cleaned it up much. Wanted to get a sense of his colors, sampled some stuff from an older piece of artwork i had of him on file.

I dunno want to work back into it and make it look a little more painterly like those world war propaganda posters.

I had a few more rougher sketches as well I can post in the morning if thread is still up.

>>92935208
You go anon, I'm loving your progress so far. And the propaganda looks fun.

headcount, how many of you are working on comics right now? how many are slacking?

>>92935449
I'm still working on setting and designing characters, and I have been for a while and have nothing ready, so I guess I'm slacking for now.

>>92935449
i'm working on one.

https://tapas.io/episode/709850

>>92899680
>Queller Death.
That is a pleasant mix of words Anon. Odd but pleasant.

do you guys have a discord?

>>92903237
This would be great as the Copypaste for these threads.

>>92935692
this usually is pasted on second post. of these threads. Since OP was a retard, he forgot to.
I am said retard.

>>92935692

It already is. OP is just a lamer who didn't post it.

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>>92935449

I just finished this page

http://rustlandmutants.webcomic.ws

https://www.tumblr.com/blog/will-o26

>decide to watch movies to basically get a feel for narrative, visuals, plagiarize ideas for minor characters from such diverse sources that nobody will catch me, etc.
>start procrastinating on watching movies.

>>92936176
what movies?

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>>92899680
>Queller Death.

I thought the name was cool, got inspired and drew this instead of working on my webcomic. I got in design practice at least I guess.

Well to be honest, life's been kinda getting in the way of me making my comic. I take art commissions mostly, for my income, and my latest paid project has been taking up all my time.

But I think my biggest problem is that I'm stuck on the writing. Every draft I make feels like it's "lacking" something, that the events don't really fit together. Just filling in plothole after plothole. I'm pretty good at world building and thinking up character pasts and personalities... But actual full STORIES? It's like a brick wall.

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>>92935208
Looks Scudlike, but I guess all mouthless yellow robots look alike.

>>92937644
1. Google: "character goal obstacle" . Pick an article you like.
2.Write a short story. All the way to the end. Does your mc have a clear goal? Does he overcome the obstacle?
3. Google story structure.
4. Edit your story: does it have clear acts? Can you find your inciting incident, end of first act, midpoint, beginning of third act, and climax and resolution ?
If not, edit.
5. Keep practicing.

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>>92936129
I recommand you add blood splats whenever you're MC slices shit.
Also paneling is a bit confusing. Many put less panels in more pages?

>>92936129
The layout is kind of hard to read. I'm trying to figure out the panel order, but it feels like it's actively changing as my eyes pan down the page.

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>>92935449
present

>>92935449
I'm working on the design of one of my main characters. It's not really working on the webcomic itself perse, but progress is being made.

>>92937829
...Does that work for porn-with-plot?

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Sorry for the shitty phone pic, it's the best I can do now. I plan to finish this page later today and make another tomorrow.

>>92934871
Because im apparently the worst person to be comapred to and that's hit some people too hard.

But it also makes me happy because they only hate me on an artistic level and not a personal one. Which i can understand because thats how i feel about some people in the industry.

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>>92934615
I animate his eyes on a separate layer with tweens like in this practice gif. I probably should do some specialized eye expressions though.

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an example of my process.

>>92937543
This is really cute and a really nice design.

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>>92931533
Here you go.

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>>92937543
OH wow, this is awesome, really cool, love how expressive the face is.

Working on a character design here, pretty rough, early stuff, meant to be a member of, like, a biker-esque gang of pirates. Going for something sorta Gangreen Gang-esque. Named Auntie Anchor, swings a giant anchor on a chain around.

>>92935631
We do! I don't know how you share it...

>>92937543
That is a gnarly frog

>>92942686
Really good!

>>92936129
the anatomy and line control need tightening up, but I'm liking how viciously violent this is. Keep studying, we need more good action comics

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>>92896851

I need names for 2 fictitious drugs. This is in a cyberpunk 80's dystopia with aliens and stuff.

Both are hallucinogens/stimulants and are considered 'Class A drugs'

One is based off an altered form/dead of a virus that was designed as a bioweapon against a particular species in this universe's equivalent to WW3. Since most species are (usually) immune to its lethality, it's used recreationally for it's cannabis like side effects and is consumed by inhaling it, much like "nasal insufflation" and smallpox scabs. Some even light up blunts due to misinformation, thinking it'll enhance the high. PSA's often remind the population that what they're smoking has lead to millions of deaths in the old war, and that by continuing to use the drug, that war may never end. Not that anyone really cared.

The second drug I'm not sure what form it would be. I was thinking it would either be a pill that could easily be mistaken for candy, or a berry that can easily be mistaken for a healthy and safe treat. (which sounds better) yeah it's part of the classic 'mixer upper' plot in a gag/filler strip It'd be a mixture between ecstasy and LSD and shrooms but potentially more potent.

>>92943730
are we talking the real name or the slang name? because the slang is easier.. the virus one would be called 'fect' or 'fection' or even like 'vax' if it's deadened

>>92943818

Either or. I suppose the slang for now, since that'll be used more often.

Guys, I think webcomics may be bad....

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My Web comic Mintgreen
Sadly my crippling laziness is preventing me from working on it, but I started lifting and have been making some progress, feeling motivated to continue.
Thinking of releasing pages in a 'bomb' format, like Steven Universe. 7 pages at the end of the month.

>>92943856
yeah I'd go with something like 'alduenza' for the virus and fluorolaminaketamide or something so it gets called 'flakes' when sold as little candy-lookin' scrapings. nice and distinct looking too. other nicknames including like dandruff/druff etc.

>>92943932
i check your comic every day, so i'd rather get a comic every 4 days than 7 pages at the end of the month and now i have to hit 'back' several times to catch up

>>92940581
Cool, I think the 3x3 panel's works really well with your art style.

>>92943975
Y..you do? Holy crap anon, I'll definitely work on getting these out faster then!

>>92944011
i mean I check 200 comics a day, and ones that don't update much I don't exactly linger on, Just glance to see if it's updated..
all the more reason cluster updates are a bad idea, i'll see there's a new one, read it, get confused, and move on. then later i realize i missed a bunch of them, but I didn't think to check back in the archive because I had already lost track of the plot

What's Annabeth so embarrassed about /hyw/?

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>>92944043
It means a lot still, have a sketch

>>92944080
Aw fug i forgot my funny pic and im already home and away from my computer :(

>>92944418
you're an absolute failure in every way

>>92934871

I second the notion.

>>92935060

I dunno man. Blissful ignorance and shooting yourself in the foot by a lack of knowledge from people refusing to give information seems worse knowing but being disgusted by the truth.

>>92944418
wait, in under 20 minutes... how did that happen?

>>92944149
awww even monsters nurse. that's sweet.

god dammit Tapas I never asked you keep my place every time I visit the main page of the comic, I want to automatically see the newest comic

>>92947540
I'm actually not even sure what it's doing now, just when I go to a tapas comic I follow, it shows me a comic from weeks ago instead of the newest one..

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bump

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I swear, I hate myself for drawing and shading bricks in this way. Oh, and I added color for this page.

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>when you want to draw comics but are shit at writing and drawing
>feel years behind everyone else
>market is already saturated
is there no hope?

>>92949041
everyone good will retire someday.

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>>92949041
>>feel years behind everyone else
There's people who have been making webcomics for over a fucking decade and their art has gone to complete shit, or was never good.
If you start spending your time improving your artwork and practicing your ass off (and I know that you can do this), then you'll be at the very least better in drawing.

>>92949683
>for over a fucking decade and their art has gone to complete shit,
we have some examples in these very threads

Wtf

>>92949779
I was actually thinking of Penny Arcade, because of its popularity. I also don't visit these threads enough to know if people are regressing or not.

http://legacy-directive17.deviantart.com/art/way-of-the-gun-Unfinished-wip-pg-3-684353606

Way of the gun guy here
Haveing trouble posting on here for whatever reason, guess I'll just link my da then, unifinished wip. did it in 30 mins but I have no energy today, kinda pissed about it. Anyways I'm modifying the sand strikers a bit and adding the long tube part to the cockpit unit that you usually find on tanks. ill try to post the finished wip here.

>>92950571
But the sand striker is a two seater vehicle with the weapon operator close to the top of the tank and the driver horizontally underneath him. You can imagine one of those 2 seater fighter helicopters.

>>92949004
Eyy this looks sick, link ya comic

>>92951228

http://funnyjunk.com/collection/WitchHill

Yeah it's FJ. I really should find a better place to have this hosted, but I'm too lazy to do that. I'd recommend starting from Ch 07, the earlier stuff isn't that important.

>>92951790
it really is a crummy host, but because I'm giving you credit for all this good colorin', I'm scrolling down and seeing if there's a new one..
if you at least changed it so it was newest-at-the-top, it wouldnt be as bad.

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I'm still not even halfway done with this project

>>92940581
is the dude trying to be sneaky about drugging homeboy? because he is WAAAAY too obvious about it
>>92943932
this looks super cool. is it up anywhere?
>>92942686
nice

>>92942789
She's good, but I think she's got too much bank space. I think you should try making her anchor tattoo a sleeve tattoo or just a bit bigger.
Try adding a seam to her trousers or pockets, maybe laces to her boots.

Basically I think she just needs a little more detail, and be careful how you draw her massive arms, they might look weird where they connect to the shoulder if you're not careful.

Thumbs up overall though.

How do you guys feel about the use of 3D line renders?

It's something I'm really considering using for my own comic because drawing complex structures like buildings or cities is really time consuming. At the same time, I feel a bit shameful that I'm taking a shortcut and missing out on improving my structural art skills.

I think I'm not ready to make my own story... IT doesn't feel right.

I need help, what I need is to practice more. But I'm not ready to express my own story yet...

So here what I'm gonna DO! If your a writer or you have an idea of some kind I'm an artist I'm willing to HELP you illustrate your dream!

>>92953146
http://pipsqk.tumblr.com

Contact me here, leave a message and a proposal. I'm dead serious here, I'm will to work for free!

I just need to make something look amazing!

>>92952939
I prefer to use it for things where the labor-to-interest ratio is similar to buildings. like i give no shits about the buildings, i won't even see them when i read the comic, but.. they need to exist.

>>92953146
you are some kind of mary fucking poppins come to save us

>>92953146
A boy falls in love with a girl. Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl’s phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well. But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day’s confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn’t exist in this universe at all. She is the girl’s alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC’s own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush. Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.

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>>92953409
>us
he's only saving one. step back nerds, this is my chance

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Eh, what the hell. I'll take a chance and post my protagonist and his alien BFF. Short version: Space Opera adventure.

>>92954655
love this art
and we need more buddy comics. we also need more girl buddy comics, like thelma and louise kinda shit. there's so much just-make-them-gay now that we dont get that healthy bff stuff we need.

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what do you do when you have artist cringe syndrome where you cringe at everything you draw. Every expression I draw that's extreme makes me physically wince.
>inb4 get gud
I'm at best when I'm in my comfort zone but I want to step out of it ya know

>>92954893
start simpler. you know how nobody hates a smiley face? get good at those, then work up from there.

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>>92954820
Well..... There's an aspect of the gay thing. But I'd like to think I'll handle it respectfully. Either way, here's some more. Pardon the spam.