Is this the best superhero movie villain ?

>>92828190
no

>>92828190
Well you don't see thousands of Iron Mongers or General Zods at Comi-Cons, do you?

>>92828190
He was good for that movie

If you want to make a movie about Batman trying to maintain control (both of the city and his own morals) against a powerful destructive force then he was very well designed for that narrative. Change the hero or even the situation and he doesn't really work as well so it's not a joker I'd really be interested in seeing again but he was a good character.

>>92828190
The performance was great.
The character was terrible.

>>92828673
Which one is it anon? Not sympathetic enough or not goofy enough?

>>92828766
Try not Joker enough.

>>92828289
If fan popularity determined "best" then the sheer unwavering longevity of baneposting would make him one of the top cinematic villains of all time

This is truly the best incarnation of the Joker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPpWzS3nCwM

>>92828190
Considering Bane is the only other memorable villain in a superhero movie I guess Joker wins.

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Pick any.

>>92828190
No, Heath Ledger's performance is what saved such a 2D character. People overrate how deep the joker is, now more than ever.

Zemo, although littered with plotholes, is a better villain.

>>92828839
baneposting's central figure and most popular character is CIA though

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>>92828190
Superior Batman movie villain coming through

>>92828977
>Faora
Yeah, who could forget generic, personality-less henchman #41909058053425

>>92829011
>rating a villain in terms of dimensions
A 1-dimensional villain that is executed really well can come off more interesting than any third-dimensional one. Case in point Sauron in LOTR.

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>>92828190
Close but no ice
Here's a cooler suggestion

>>92828839
Bane was legitimately great tho.

Hell all of the Nolan trilogy's villains were, contrarianism aside - Liam Neeson as Ra's al Ghul is really underrated. And if you had to choose the top 3 Bat-villains, Joker, Ra's and Bane is a pretty solid unholy trinity.

>>92829590
>smokes a cigar despite his sub-zero biology because Ahnuld said "If I'm going to wear a stupid bald cap, a solid coating of silver body paint and that damn suit, you're going to let me smoke my stogies."

>>92829393
she had tits tho
so I can fantasize about her domming me

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>>92829980
I mean, would you deny Ahnold his stogie ?
I don't think he would be cool with that.

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>>92828190
No

>>92829892
I'd bump Bane out for Penguin, though.

>>92828190
He wasn't even the best joker.

>9 years
>out of dozens of superhero movies, only Logan was able to even come remotely near it
Even better is /co/'s revisionist hateboner for it
https://youtu.be/hN11P9AwPW0?t=2m5s

>>92828190
by far and away the best. there's almost no debate.

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>>92828190
Nazi Vampire is best Superhero movie villian

If you put Heath Ledgers character into some No Country For Old Men sort of film, he'd be regarded as one of the greatest characters to have appeared in film.

Sadly it's straddled with being "an interpretation of the joker".

>>92834062
He is already regarded as "one of the greatest characters to have appeared in film".
You'd be hard pressed to find a more overrated character in existence.

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>>92828190
mark hamill will always be the best joker

>>92834115
Nah, it still gets the "psh, comic book" treatment from many.

>>92828190
>cesar romero joker

>>92834115
>overrated
>>92834182
you know that's not actually mark hamill right? he just does the voice.

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>>92834283
>implying TDK Joker isn't overrated
I appreciate Heath's performance but come on now.

I second >>92829079
Devito owned the fuck out of that role

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Nope.

>>92834432
>this low tier b8
ok

>>92828839
Fuck you faggoty "muh maymay" retards, Bane was a great villain and a perfect foil for Batman. Just because you guys like running shit into the ground doesn't mean dick about the quality of something.

>>92834540
this. tom hardy as bane was fucking great.

>>92831551
If you really need to bump Bane off, Poison Ivy is better than Pengu. Tbh apart from Joker and Ra's who are lock-ins you can make the case for lots and lots of bat villains. If she weren't basically a hero these days, I'd say Catwoman is a definite lock for the Bat villain trinity.

>>92834540
Bane was great, but the reveal that he was just doing it for Talia still annoys me.
I want Santa Prisca raised Bane out to beat Batman to prove he's the biggest bad ass there is.

It's funny how no one is even trying to make the case for any of the MCU villains.

>>92834720
Joker, Penguin and Catwoman are the classic trinity.
Nowadays, with Catwoman being just a hero/love interest, and Penguin being stuffed in the Iceberg Lounge and retired, it's Joker, Ra's and Bane.

Yeah ignore the contrarians, he was the bomb. One of the only onscreen supervillains who felt SUPER as opposed to some randomer with a flying suit or whatever.

Childhood is thinking Joker is cool and deep
Adulthood is realizing Penguin, Bane and Ra's make more sense

>>92828190
as a performance, likely.
as a character? I wouldn't say so.

>>92828673
trippy we thought the same thing.

>>92828766
A bit of both, for me. Which I don't personally think affected the movie.

>>92829079
this is actually an opinion I agree with but I think the movie is appallingly shit (I saw it in theaters when it came out don't assume my age you ageists). He had motivation and a good performance though.

But I absolutely hate when people try to act like that garbage was better than even BvS.

>>92828977
>Faora
>Fucking sperg Lex

Michael Shannon was good as Zod though

>>92828796
>Not muh
Have sex

>>92828766
>The Joker
>Sympathetic
Unless you're adapting The Killing Joke, it's one or the other.

>>92829581
Sauron wasn't technically a character, more like a concept. We see him in one flashback in the movies, and in the books we hear about his intentions, his minions, his power, but it's all secondhand. He has no lines, no physical incarnation (though his presence is felt), and no description of his thoughts or actions from HIS perspective, save for the last part of Return of the King at the Cracks of Doom. I don't think it's fair to call him a character in the same way someone like the Joker is a character.

>>92828673
this

he was way too invincible

>>92835319
I'm glad we at least agree on Penguin being good but I cannot empathize with your feelings towards Batman Returns (especially to say that it is worse than BvS).
Maybe you could rewatch it. A lot of people didn't like it when it came out but later accepted it better for what it was.

>>92833961
Agreed.
Blade is basically unrecognized by MCucks and DCrEtUrds though

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It doesn't matter.