Former WB Employee Calls Wonder Woman a Mess, Slams Zack Snyder

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*BREATHES IN*
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>>92817388
sounds like to me they fired the right person.

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>>92817388

>>92817388
This was probably the same person who leaked that Suicide Squad was going to be good.

>>92817471
REEEEE
GIVE MY JOB BACK WB
I'M SORRY I LIED ABOUT WONDER WOMAN
GIVE IT BACK
I WANT IT BACK!!!

By "two years of articles" you mean this one, single anonymously sourced opinion that every website ran with because they knew how many clicks they'd get?

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>>92817388
My absolute FAVORITE DCEU rumor was the batman one with the directors.

My favorite was the batman rumors with Matt Reeves.
>"Deal didn't fall through! DCucks some suicide watch!
Deal is official
>"B-But no Battfleck!"
Ben literally tweets "welcome to that Batt cave" on twitter
>"I'm not seeing the camera crew or set directors, or anything. A-HA! Take that!"

>>92817629
shit I'm tired. Well it's been fun. can't wait to see more drama over this tomorrow.

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The issue here is twofold: this news is now proven completely, undeniably fake, which calls into question the vetting process of the news sites that covered it. If they published this completely fake article, what else are they publishing that is not true?

The second, larger question is what the original source of the news is, and why was it created? Was it Marvel fanboys trying to shit on DC? Disney's marketing department? The sites themselves fishing for clicks?

There is an entire market of anti-DC clickbait out there, and you have to wonder "why?"

>>92817388
I find it hard to believe this movie will actually be good, but maybe it will be.

>>92817652
People want to read about drama and epic failures, not successes.

>>92817388
>Do how do they explain two years of articles like this?
Because its probably true.

Gal Gadot literally can't act. I have zero doubt these current strong reviews are yet another Ghostbusters situation and that the RT will drop by the time of actual release.

I'd be shocked if they were higher than mid 70s desu.

>>92817652
Fake News has been a thing for a long time but has become far more rampant lately. I'm thinking it was a legit fired employee that was mad, so to get revenge she tried to dip into WB's profits.

>>92817388
/tv/ BFTO

marvel studios final have some competition.

>>92817661
>11 top critics so far rated it positively
>"I find it hard to believe this will actually be good"

>>92817690
Just keep making excuses.

>>92817704
True. Most real news sources have vetting processes but the rise of Brietbart (and fall of Fox) have created outlets for fictitious stories to get blasted out. Plus social media has made it possible to circumvent actual journalistic scrutiny.

>>92817713
I'll reserve judgement. It might be fun enough to enjoy it.

Why is there so much smear campaign fake news against DC?

>>92817388
Will the employee face ramifications for trying to sabotage this?

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>>92817652
Smear campaign against DC.

Still, BvS would be received much better if it was Ultimate cut version showed up.

And while Suicide Squad rumors for reshoots to add quips are false, it's clear that original material was done unjustice, solely based on that scenes that were in trailers like Joker with grenade weren't in final version nor in "extended cut".


Still, RT is credible only for Mcucks, with Alien Covenant and Kong rated as good movies and Gold, Live by Night and Free Fire as bad.

>>92817388
Jews

>>92817859
Kong Skull Island is a good movie.

>>92817388
Disney wants to push back the capeshit fatigue all they can because they have to recoup a 4 billion investment making $150M in profit in each movie. They had a good grip on media outlets because they spend more in marketing than the other 4 biggest studios put together and most of internet podcast make their living off online ads. Smearing DC they get less capeshit every year, pushing the dreaded capeshit fatigue away and increasing their chances of getting their money back

>>92817859
Live by Night and Free Fire are bad movies

>>92817923
This so much. Not to mention they're scared of Batman, AKA King Capeshit.

>>92817388
Disney paid for hit pieces and got B T F O

>>92817859
>>92817945

Live by Night was not great, but it was nowhere near as bad as reviews suggested.

>>92817859
why did Gold get shit on? was it because Matthew didn't really care about the election or something?

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>>92817388
>Critics Consensus: Thrilling, earnest, and buoyed by Gal Gadot's charismatic performance, Wonder Woman succeeds in spectacular fashion.
>Thrilling, earnest, and buoyed by Gal Gadot's charismatic performance
>buoyed by Gal Gadot's charismatic performance
>charismatic performance

Huh.

>>92817713
>>11 top critics so far rated it positively

Probably only because feminism.

>>92818025
Why "huh"? You should be used to being wrong by this point

>>92818025
turns out directors can push for good performances if they give a shit to.

>>92818056
Sure, They said she was the best part of BvS as well so I'm not buying it.

>>92817956
>Batman busts sex traffickers
>Disney is afraid of him
Hypercrisis?

>>92817859
They are on 4chan aswell. Disney knows social media has well replaced traditional marketing.

>>92818134
No we're not.

>>92818056
I'm honestly looking forward to seeing this supposedly charismatic performance with my own two eyes. Gal Gadot has always struck me as a basic bitch with a pretty face and very little in the way of acting talent or charisma. If she can somehow change my mind with this one "charismatic" performance, I'll be blown away.

>>92817388
This open letter always seemed like bullshit. It sounds like it was written by some obsessive nerd and not a WB employee.

>>92818167
There was one scene she had with Chris Pine where they were bickering which if you asked me, showed the most expression in her performance than she has ever in her career where she just acts like a stoic Fem Fatale action bitch (F&F/Jones)

>>92818198
The source should've been considered that these were the rantings of a "ex" employee which should've been taken with a grain of salt that this was someone lashing out that they were fired.

I just want to know who and why

>>92818215
>I just want to know who and why
>>92817923

>>92818232
I mean it was either a Marvel fanboy, Disney marketing, or a clickbait site.

None of those make Marvel look good bit the question is which one did it?

>>92817859
>kong
>alien
>bad

eat shit

>>92817388

It's a conspiracy, OP. Clearly it's all that Disney money being spread around.

It's the only explanation for how BvS got such bad reviews. I mean, it's ' work of art. Obviously.

>>92817859
Alien covenant was good. Fuck off /tv/. too much cuck posting has ruined you.

Do you think the people crying "shill" and proposing company war conspiracy theories actually believe that DC and Marvel are paying critics and running smear campaigns, or is it shitposting?

At this point I really can't tell.

>>92817526

>Robert Gabel Jr...

Wait so we trust reviewers and RT now?
...But that means the Snyder films actually WERE bad.

>>92818405

Nobody over the age of 14 actually likes Snyder's movies. You've been trolled.

>>92818405
Write in your next post "Wonder Woman is better than Iron Man and GotG" and I'll admit that as a Snyder fan. Fair is fair

>>92818359
Hello. We are talking about a blatantly fake article pushed all over the internet that shit on Wonder Woman. No one mentioned BvS but you.

In the future, please read the OP before commenting. Thanks!

>>92818405
you should see the same mouse cucks claiming WB bribed critics and that RT is not to be trusted

>>92818377
>>92818405

Can you address why the fake article in the OP was written?

>>92818433

I said it's all a CONSPIRACY!!!!

And you're ALL in on it. Every last mouse-humping one of you!

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Do you MCUfags now realize how critics are a bunch of fucks?

Because in no fucking way is this movie better than MoS and BvS.

>>92818405
It was thanks to Snyder why Wonder Woman is out today instead of 2023. It was his idea that the setting should be WW1 and his decision the director. He may not have directed Wonder Woman, but even Patty Jenkins thanks him for his contribution.

>>92818509
He's also listed as story writer and producer and also has a cameo. As much as critics hate to admit it, he was crucial in Wonder Woman being what it is.

>>92818479
>Because in no fucking way is this movie better than MoS and BvS.

Even Michael Bay has directed better movies than those heaping piles of fly-infested horse shit.

And Wonder Woman looks ace, you just have shit taste.

>>92818534
Critics don't have a bone to pick with Zack Snyder despite what some overly-sensitive (and very deluded) fanboys would like to believe. It just so happens most of his movies are not very good.

>>92818540
>Even Michael Bay
>Even
Aye, it doesn't surprise me that Marvel fanboys have no idea what Michael Bay is capable of. Were you even alive during The Rock? Or Armageddon? Or Pain & Gain and 13 Hours? MCU could dream they had a director of that calibre doing their glorified TV show films. Instead you're stuck with the fucking Russos and Snyder's assistant.

>>92818367
It was ok. The scariest part was the little shits in the long grass and it more like a gorey thriller than horror

>>92818564
Armageddon is literally one of the worst movies ever made. Deep Impact was twice as good as it was. And Deep Impact was also shit.

As I said, you have shit taste.

>>92818557
When all is said and done. There is credit to give for Zack Snyder. He may not direct good movies, but he might shine better a producer. Guy that hires Larry Fong can't be all that bad. Also James Cameron and MCU directors seem to dig his style.

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>>92818605
Keep pretending you know shit about cinema thinking you're clever for claiming Bay is shit while simultaneously shilling for the visual garbage that is the MCU. If MCU had a director a fraction as skilled as Bay, then maybe those films would actually be watchable. Bay has been doing films for longer than you've been born.

>>92818634
Zack Snyder is an exceptional film director. His only mistake has been assuming more of critics than they deserve. 300 alone has innovated more than most Hollywood directors manage through a lifetime of filmmaking.

>>92818564
>have no idea what Michael Bay is capable of

Ninja Turdles: Rise From the Toilets

DCEU appologists are having an existential meltdown now.

> "Bet you marvel fucks are shitting the bed huh?!"

No, you can't project this onto someone else guys, this is your disaster to suffer through.

>>92818751
What the fuck are you even ranting about you sad fuck?

>>92818655
Not nearly dark enough, now if they were fighting in a warehouse that would be much better.

>>92818757
Woah there son you sound angry. I'm just glad the DCEU finally put out a decent movie that can challenge Marvel and force them to be more on their game.

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Jesus, as a proud DC cuck this scares me. Is the secret to Rotten Tomates making every DCEU film from now on about a woman?

>>92818405
No. RT is sometimes right and sometimes wrong. It's a good sign when RT paints the movie favorably but in no way equivalent to "this movie is good."
A website that rates Iron Man 3 higher than A Beautiful Mind is not an accurate decider of quality.
>>92818655
>that shot
I don't remember it looking this bad, is this pre-release material?

>>92818655

I'm 36. And you still have shit taste.

Of course you would have a thing for Michael Bay's films. Tell me how you feel about Paul W.S. Anderson.

>>92818765
Yes, we can probably expect the Captain Marvel movie to be a solid 100%

>>92818782
> I don't remember it looking this bad, is this pre-release material?

And heavily desaturated in photoshop too.

>>92818765
At the cost of getting normies to love the DCEU, it is now spearheaded by Israeli women.

>>92818792
Marvel films get let off the hook because they're beloved normie shit anyway.

>>92818808
SHUT UP MARVEL DRONE
BURN FOR GHAZA

>>92818709

Literally better than every single film in the DCEU. (except Wonder Woman, apparently)

>>92818765
>Jesus, as a proud DC cuck
Are marlels still playing the concern troll game?

>>92818782
RT doesn't "rate" anything. The score is reflective of what percentage of published critics recommend the movie.

A 90% score means that 90% of people gave it a favorable review. It doesn't mean the film is inherently better than a lower scoring film, just that it holds wider appeal.

This is literally what the director of Dr. Strange was talking about when he had to remind people that his film's high score wasn't reflective of its quality.

>>92818805
>I'm 36
Holy shit 36 and you know nothing about cinema? That's sad. Bet you think you're clever and you "fit in" with the online crowd for shitting on Bay while completely ignorant on the fact that Bay has more talent than the entire MCU director collective put together.

>>92818806
Nope, it looks exactly like that. Just checked.
https://youtu.be/Gq4KGOMMgn0?t=2m34s
2:34. Also
>Yes, we can probably expect the Captain Marvel movie to be a solid 100%
Hahah

>>92818808
This is currently a huge quandry for the people who have aligned themselves with DCEU's direction up until this point. Should they be happy for Skwad being profitable by being turned into a cheap GOTG rip-off and WW for being well reviewed because of feminism or should they stick to their guns because they still defend the Snyder films?

>>92818765

If that's your only take-away, you deserve to be a DC cuck.

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>>92818829
Okay, we need a new name for Marlels.

I'm thinking Marlets.

>>92818847
Still better cinematography than the warehouse fight in BvS sadly.

>>92818846
Do not respond to this guy, Mr. 36. He's baiting you hard and you just keep falling for it.

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>>92817770
>Most real news sources have vetting processes
Journalism died with Hunter.

>>92818853
Wonder Woman has always been female. I think you're mad that despite MCU wanting to appear cool with the nu-males, they still refuse to take any risks at all.

>>92818846

I know plenty about cinema, but I also know that you like the majority of Zack Snyder and Michael Bay's output. Which means you have shit taste. You can call them "mistunderstood geniuses" or whatever idiots like you usually say to defend the garbage that pollutes your Netflix queue, but you can't deny that your taste is objectively shit.

>>92818847
You realize the quality of a movie and its cinematography is more than just how many PS2 cgi cutscenes Zack Snyder can fit into an otherwise uncanny mess right?

>>92818841
Until you look at the "average rating" aggregate that they have and realize the people who collectively awarded The Force Awakens an 8.2/10 are complete retards.
RT and Metacritic are, as you've said, aggregates. And they don't necessarily reflect the quality of their movies (as we see with the majority of the MCU).

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>>92818884
If you hate on Snyder you're objectively a cuck. Don't do it to yourself just to fit in with the Marlel crowd. Your days are numbered on /co/.

>>92818878
Wow son, that's alot of projection and assumptions. You should calm down.

>>92818898
Said the tripfag.

>>92818888
>movie looks like verifiable garbage
>b-but Zack Snyder CGI
Vision in that shot looks more fake than any CG scene in BvS including Doomsday.

>the absolute state of mcucks right now
At least we all agree that RT isn't reliable and Civil War was a piece of shit now

>>92818898

Quiet, Rooney. You're the guy who's upset that a DC film is finally good. Go sit in the corner like a good little idiot.

>>92818913
I disagree.

>>92818915
>now
Most people on this board got over the hype after like 2 weeks and realized it was trash.

>>92818919
I have all the DCEU on blu-ray and rewatch them daily.

>>92818915
You're right RT isn't reliable, Civil War should have had a much higher score for being as good a movie it was.

>>92818938

I'm sure you do.

>>92818935
Good luck convincing the rest of the world outside of /co/ who can't stop singing the praises about the film.

>>92818944
Well, not Suicide Squad. I've tried to rewatch that again for the past 3 days but I end up losing concentration playing FFXIV and turn it off.

>>92818959
> FFXIV

shit taste truly confirmed.

>>92818932
You're wrong then. BvS at least put time into texturing and animating Doomsday, and contrasts his appearance with actual black values. CW just slapped that 2001 PC game tier CG on a gray background with no effort to cover anything up.
>>92818941
Yeah, I mean with the 0/10 source material that was the CW comic it's surprising they managed to make a 5/10 CW movie out of it.

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>>92818971
Wait a minute, are you that 36 year old from the FFXIV general that everyone bullies?

I don't understand why DCEU fans are so upset they finally have a good movie.

I'm conflicted. On the one hand I love Zack Synder and his movies are literally the geatest comic book movies ever made. On the other hand, like all good DC fans, I'm a woman-hating Trump voter and can't support this movie and realize that the only reason it's getting good reviews is because of SJWs and that it features a woman instead of a men.

>>92818981
Back to /v/ with you shit taste.

>>92818981

36 year old guy here. That's a different anon.

I don't play video games.

>>92818973
Well there's no hyperbole of toxic bias in this post at all, clearly this is a clam rational person making this statement.

>>92818988
>this is the narrative Mousetards are going to have to stick with
Come on, it's not even as ironically funny as the "it's too safe" one

>>92818655
> If MCU had a director a fraction as skilled as Bay, then maybe those films would actually be watchable.

There is no way in fuck I would watch any of those annoying Transformers movies instead of a Marvel movie.

You are a DC cheerleader completely lost in your own bullshit.

>>92819004
Yeah, thanks for stating the obvious you buttblasted shill.

>>92818981

Why am I not surprised you are a /v/ shitposter?

>>92819005

I wasn't being ironic. Fuck women.

>>92818997
Why don't you like FFXIV, anon?

>>92819031
>>92818997
Also how do neither of you not know the difference between /v/ and /vg/.

>>92819005
what
I don't understand this narrative

>>92819034
You retarded Marvelgoblin I never even accused you of irony, I said that the other tthing would have been ironically funny

A gamer child would be a fan of Zack Snyder considering all of his movies look like shitty cutscenes from a video game.

>>92819050
>difference between /v/ and /vg/

The only difference is the speed with which they shit post.

>>92818984
Because they're not exactly sure how to spin this into something against the MCU bullies they insist have been keeping Snyder down with their mouse bucks.

>>92819024
> I shill for free

You sure do friend.

>>92819036
Because Final Fantasy has been a creatively bankrupt franchise since the primary team left Square Soft following the Spirits Within debacle resulting in the empty shell of a company and its properties being bought out by Enix (yeah that's right, it wasn't a merger, it was a pity buyout). There's a reason why Kingdom Hearts has never managed to capture the magic of the first game or pop culture notorioty of Final Fantasy 7-10.

>>92819056
>Marvelgoblin

I'll kill you for implying I would enjoy anything from that mousefucker factory. You're probably a Marvelcuck trying to rustle my jimmies.

>Warner Bros can't make a good mo-

>>92819034

>I'm not being ironic
>I actively describe myself as a woman hating Trump voter

There's shitposting and then there's high definition autism.


Don't make it so obvious next time

>>92819080
Damn imagine being this butthurt MCUck. It's ok you still got Dance off Meme man to clap to.

>>92818805
>36
>on /co/
Bad decisions general

I like how all the DCEU apologists (all two of them apparently) have congregated in this thread since they've instead of the other WW threads currently up because they've been silenced by sound reasoning in all the others. Only the most shitpostiest of threads is where they still have any ground left to stand.

>>92819082

They've made plenty of good superhero movies. Superman, Superman 2, Batman, Batman Returns, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight.

And now at long last, they've made an 8th good superhero movie. Took them a while but they did it.

>>92819104
Too much projection friend.

>>92819094
>high definition autism

Don't joke about such things. I'm a high-functioning autistic Trump supporter who loves all things DC. Actually, I'm proud of it.

>>92819119
Superman 2 was shit, Batman Returns was shit, Mask of the Phantasm was a cartoon. Batman Begins was mediocre at best.

>>92819105
If that's old to you, then you're very, very young.

>>92819141
Hey, I'm trying really hard to give them some credit, okay? They've had a rough time these past few years, give DC a break.

>>92819113
I like how you're still this butthurt.

>>92819141
>Mask of the Phantasm was a cartoon.

Is this supposed to be a criticism?

>>92819141
>Mask of the Phantasm was a cartoon

Which makes it superior to every other DC movie since animation is inherently superior to live action.

>>92819172
Fair enough, can we throw in the Batman Animated series too, since that's honestly the best anything Cape related ever put to media. I mean if we just counted that as a movie.

And if so can we also count the Brave and the Bold. What about video games, can those count too?

>>92819141

> Batman Returns was shit

You're shit. Returns is the good version of BvS, a director implementing a pure personal vision over source material and turning it into something special.

> Mask of the Phantasm was a cartoon

So?

>Batman Begins was mediocre at best

Are you legitimately retarded?

>>92819191
>>92819201
See, there you go, you guys got your little cartoon movies so you don't need to keep defending the DCEU.

>>92819186
Not an argument.

>>92819214
Being this mad.

Does this mean DCEU fans have to admit the Snyder films are shit if they're going to take RT as word of god now?

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Which is better? Batman v. Superman...or Steel?

I'm going with BvS but just barely.

>>92819223
>little cartoon movies


It seems like a poor move to out yourself as a /tv/ shitposter so blatantly.

And I haven't defended anything. I just wanted to know if you thought calling a cartoon a cartoon was a criticism or a praise.

>>92819255
Fuck you Steel is one of the best Cape adaptations to date. The MCU wishes they had a movie with that kind of cinematography.

>>92819241

>people still defend BvS

It's amazing, like talking to a different species. They're somehow dumber the the Prequel Trilogy defenders.

>>92819255

Steel isn't 3 hours long.

>>92819241
No it means that MCUcks will have to come to terms with the fact that even RT is now beyond their means. Gotta find something new to spam these threads with now.

>>92819223

You're trying too hard.

You already admitted you like the movie. Too late to pretend anymore.

>>92819260
Was it released in theaters? Is it part of the DCEU or current creative effort? If not than bringing it up seems kind of surpurfluous.

>>92819284
What movie?

>>92819289
>Was it released in theaters?

Of course it was.

>>92819241
Sure but you also have to admit Wonder Woman is better than Iron Man and Guardians.

>>92819278
What are you talking about, I'm glad that the DCEU finally has at least one good movie. Hopefully it will force the MCU to be more competitive since they were pretty much the only game in town up until this point.

I'm also hoping this will help people in denial come to terms with the fact that the Snyder films weren't worth defending now that they can actually have a good movie to be proud of.

>>92818557
Lmao I'm not one of those 'REEEE EVERYONE IS BIASED AGAINST DC REEEE' but you are out of your fucking mind if you don't think there is this weird hatedom around Zack Snyder.

We have abusers and rapists directors working in Hollywood but they don't get a third of the hate that Snyder gets.

Superman III
Supergirl
Superman IV
Batman Forever
Steel
Batman & Robin
Catwoman
Green Lantern
Man of Steel
Batman v. Superman
Suicide Squad

>>92819289

I don't see how a movies integration in to a wider spread universe impacts its quality. And yes it did have a theatrical release. 25 of December 1993

>>92819323
>you are out of your fucking mind if you don't think there is this weird hatedom around Zack Snyder.

Critics are not 14-year olds on 4chan. You're referring to a bunch of fanboys asshurt because Snyder is making their beloved kids comics look bad. Critics don't give a shit about that nonsense.

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>>92819320
Damn, you sound really mad knowing that you lost both RT and the knowledge that you'll never have a director of Snyder's calibre doing your glorified TV show films.

But it's ok, so long as there is RDJ forced in there somewhere with focus-tested quips, I'm sure you'll be there to clap your hands like the manchild you are.

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>telling lies about Gal

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>>92819348
>Critics are not 14-year olds on 4chan
Then explain this

Remember "The Next Iron Man"?

I sure don't.

>>92819349
>But it's ok, so long as there is GRIMDARK forced in there somewhere with focus-tested GENERIC TEENAGE ANGST, I'm sure you'll be there to clap your hands like the manchild you are.

So what are Marvel shills saying now that RT has been ousted as very easy to manipulate?

Are they going to pretend that RT doesn't matter now or that it does in fact matter still despite WW wrecking their shit?

>>92819367

I see nothing about 4chan on there. I think your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

>>92819320

>I'm also hoping this will help people in denial come to terms with the fact that the Snyder films weren't worth defending now that they can actually have a good movie to be proud of.

Of course not. This movie apparently has things like "jokes" and "likeable characters" and "narrative" which triggers the lunatic Snyder fanboys.

>>92819308
Only if it keeps that score above theirs after two hundred more reviews.

Even then it still has to outperform both films in the box office and have a higher aggregate score of 7.5/10.

See, RT isn't the end all be all, it's just one of the many indicators that are used to form a greater understanding. See a movie can make big bank at the box office and still be shit, it can do well on RT but still be shit, but when a movie has both and adoring public reception then that usually tells you something. That's why people can defend most of the MCU films and have no problem admitting other ones were obviously bad. You folks on the other hand seem to think that each and every factor in and of itself is a make or break standard.

>>92817690

100% of Gal Gadots lines were done in ADR post recordings. She delivered them all on set, but still got to go back through the dialogue again. Pretty sure most of Chris Pines were ADR too. It's not unheard of to loop an entire movie. It's a lot of work and thus, more expensive, but absolutely done.

>>92819382

Not taking sides but a success rate of 25% isn't exactly "wrecking their shit"

>>92819377
BvS was not focus-tested. But I wouldn't expect an MCUck to know the first thing of filmmaking. After all, look how he's willing to eat up Disney's anti-film. I say anti-film because it can't be considered film when the entire process is basically an assembly-line production of a design by committe style filmmaking that is entirely dependant on what the kids watching the test screenings think.

>>92819382
We're glad the DCEU finally has a good movie and not too worried about the score since it will most likely go down quite a bit in the coming week. Hopefully this spurs greater quality from the MCU and shows Warner Bros how to do a movie right.

As somebody who has already seen Wonder Woman, I guarantee the legions of Snyder fanboys are going to hate this movie. It's everything they hate. It's good.

>>92819399

Thats actually really interesting. I thought ADR was the preferred way of doing things as it eliminated the possibility of catching a mic on screen.

>>92819387
I'm sure an idiot or two bought into the RT scores of Dr Strange first week but who can defend Dr Strange now that we've all seen it?

A better question might be, who even remembers Dr Strange now? I doubt the people who were so keen on praising it do.

>>92819405
>MCU was not focus-tested. But I wouldn't expect an DCuck to know the first thing of filmmaking. After all, look how he's willing to eat up WB anti-film. I say anti-film because it can't be considered film when the entire process is basically an assembly-line production of a design by committe style filmmaking that is entirely dependant on what the kids watching the test screenings think.

>>92818044
Also Gal is part of the tribe ( which the only reason this sticc who can't act is anywhere near films).

>>92819409
When will MCU get its first good film? I eagerly await it.

>>92819349
Easy with the projection friend. I told you we're glad the DCEU can now finally compete with the MCU on level footing, I seriously hope this drives up the quality of both studios in the films they make.

>>92819425
Good to know you are completely lost on words and have to resort to this. Consider it a mercy that 4chan is anonymous and you didn't have to reveal your dumb face losing an argument.

>>92819418
Dr. Strange was fine. It wasn't particularly memorable but I'll gladly watch it over any DC film made post-Nolan. But then, I'd take just about anything over any DC film made post-Nolan.

Seriously, Snyder's comic book movies are some of the worst movies ever made. It's amazing how in denial some people are about it. Those films aren't even worthy enough to be called "schlock". They're nothing.

>>92819418
Everyone I talked to likes it and still talks about when Strange will show up next in the MCU. You can keep trying to force this narrative of forget-ability all you want, but in the end it's just you making noise on the internet.

Same way to try to convince yourself that everyone thinks Civil War was terrible despite it having some of the best physical format sales of any cape film to date.

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>>92819433
DCEU has been miles above MCU since its inception. After all, who can honestly be entertained by modern MCU movies besides kids and manchildren stuck pretending they're still kids?

>>92819451
>Good to know you are completely lost on words and have to resort to this. Consider it a mercy that 4chan is anonymous and you didn't have to reveal your dumb DCuck face losing an argument.

>>92819241
>implying Snyder didn't ghost direct this movie and Patty Jenkins just agreed to sell her name to use in credits.

>>92819458
Because in their heads, good movie making is all about visuals and superficial elements. In much the same way stupid people can't fathom anyone being smarter than they are, these folk can't imagine anyone not seeing their limited view as being perfect.

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>>92819458
>Dr. Strange was fine
Man MCUcks will literally eat any shit that Feige shits down their throats. This is amazing to watch.

>>92819468
If you say so friend.

>>92819477
Is this what you guys are going to tell yourselves now?

>>92819483
You never actually watched the movie did you?

>>92819459
>Same way to try to convince yourself that everyone thinks Civil War was terrible despite it having some of the best physical format sales of any cape film to date.
It was outsold by fucking Suicide Squad. So I expect you to reply to me that Suicide Squad is the best because it outsold Civil War. If not, then you're a massive hypocrite and Disney cocksucker.

Even when they finally get a good movie, DCfags are still pissed off about everything.

Can't you little wieners just be happy for once? Go see Wonder Woman and try enjoying yourself for a change.

>>92819499
Nope, Civil War still outsold Skwad in physical format.

>>92819483

I'm a DC fan. Literally every film in the MCU (Yep, even Thor 2) is superior to every film in the DCEU.

Until Wonder Woman, of course.

>>92819508
This.

>>92819526
Let's all give props to Wonder Woman for being the DCEU's first good film. The guys over at the MCU are going to have to watch themselves from now on.

>>92819518
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-is-now-ahead-of-batman-v-superman-and-captain-america-civil-war-in-home-media-sales-a150550

>SUICIDE SQUAD Is Now Ahead of BATMAN V SUPERMAN And CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR In Home Media Sales

Now I want you to reply to me saying Suicide Squad is better than Civil War.

>>92819526
I'm a Marvel fan and I think the entire MCU is garbage.

>>92819546
Well it was certainly better than Batman vs Superman.

>>92819559

Cool. I don't think any of the MCU films are particularly great. They're just better than the insulting shit that WB pukes in our laps.

>>92819546
Skwad wasn't on netflix though which took a huge chunk out of the physical format sales for Civil War. (not the original guy you're responding to though), plus Civil War had more time on Red Box too.

>>92819563
Damn, isn't it funny seeing MCUcks seeing a certain parameter as objective quality and watch them backpedal when they get BTFO?

>>92819546
So Skwad is the best cape film ever made? Wow friend you have strange taste in movies. How come none of Snyder's films sold as much as it did?

>>92819578
I'm a huge Marvel fan and seeing Kevin Feige ruin an entire Universe with his childish garbage films kills me. Pre-Disney Marvel was the GOAT.

>>92819588
Why are you so angry, you guys finally have a good movie for the very first time. Two if you count Skwad with it's stellar dvd/blu-ray sales.

>>92817945

Live by Night was just mediocre. It tried to be a bootlegger era Goodfellas with a nice family man central character but lacked the gravitas to make the emotional parts work. It was just too polished. People gave it shit because it wasn't Argo 2.0

>>92819591
No, Memepool is. According to dvd sales

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>Get less Oscars than DCEU
>Get less RT score than DCEU
>Get less home platform sales than DCEU
>Disney still billions in debt after buying Marvel
What the fuck does Marvel have now? I feel bad for them honestly.

>>92819483
DCucks are so desperate they hog onto cucked feminist reviews for that fresh rating.

>>92819588
You have to look at all the parameters. Good physical format sales, amazing theater turn out, great reviews, wonderful pop culture reception. Civil War was just loved all around and didn't fall short in any single parameter where as Skwad shit the bed in everything outside of money made which makes it tantamount to the Bayformers franchise.

See, ya gotta look at the big picture here.

>>92819630
>>Get less RT score than DCEU
>>Get less home platform sales than DCEU
False.

>>92819141
All better than the entire MCU though

>>92819630
Actually Disney made it's money back and then some with phase 1, everything since then has just been a gravy train.

>>92819599

>childish

The fanboy obsession with removing childish things from childish comics will never not be depressing.

>how dare these movies appeal to children

>>92819599

Superheroes are childish garbage. No amount of tryhard shit like violence, tits, swearing, or generic grimdark shit aimed at 13-year olds can make it otherwise.

>>92819655
If that helps you sleep at night friend, I just hope finally having a good movie to tout will make you less angry from now on.

>>92819641
>Civil War Oscars: Zero
>Civil War Halloween impact : Zero
>Civil War musical score sales : Zero
Damn, Suicide Squad really BTFO Civil War.

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>>92819356

>>92819241
No but we admit it's better than Iron Man and GotG

>>92819657
Explain to me exactly when Disney made 4 billion in profit on Marvel when they make on average 100 million profit per film.

Is WW good due to Gal Gadot or despite her?
The movie is now banned in Lebanon because it stars an Israeli.
The Lebanese government asked the military to prevent the screening across the country.

>>92819671
except in box office bucks which is what really counts to the penny pinchers.

Again, Halloween costumes and Soundtracks do not a good movie make.

>>92819671

I know you're trolling (and doing a darn good job, too!), but does anyone who's not a teenage girl actually like Suicide Squad?

Honest question.

>>92819668
>angry
But I'm happy that Gadot has a movie better rated than Iron Man, why would I be angry? Maybe if it doesn't win another oscar but that's not a feeling you'd understand

>>92819689

Gal Gadot was the only redeeming thing about BvS, so it's not surprising that a full movie about her would be decent.

>>92819684
Disney paid 2 billion for Marvel, not 4. And they were making more than 100 million profit on most of the films.

>>92819704
You're just posting like an angry person.

>>92819692
>Money made is all that matters
So Suicide Squad is better than CW considering how it outsold Civil War on home platforms? What is it going to be? Can you make up your mind please?

Suicide Squad is an Oscar-winning film, Civil War was forgotten after two weeks. Suicide Squad actually impacted culture with Harley Quinn. What impact did Civil War leave besides a laughable CGI airport fight?

>>92819684
Are you the autist from /tv/? The one that acts like merchandise sales mean nothing and that >10 billion dollars grossed are peanuts worth nothing and Disney is secretly going through a financial crisis due to the MCU?

>>92819721
Explain to me when Disney made 4 billion selling Iron Man toys.

>>92819696
I know some fags really liked the shirtless Jared Leto.

If you prefer Marvel or DC over the other to the extent that you're willing to go to war with fanboys over the internet about it, you are a massive fucking cuckmonkey.

>>92819719
All that matters to the companies. Civil War still made more money in theaters and physical formats than Skwad did with both too.

And I seriously hope you're not defending the movie synergy effect of Harley Quinn on the comics as a good thing. Because Civil War's success culturally affected Marvel comics to make Civil War II and I don't see anyone bragging about that.

>>92819732
Again, Disney paid 2 billion for Marvel, not 4.

>>92819696


I am a dude in his late 20s and I enjoyed it. Actually saw it multiple times in the theaters.

That being said I wouldn't say it was a great movie. Just something I enjoyed.

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>Wonder Woman beat MCU on RT
>Suicide Squad beat MCU in sales and Oscars
>BvS and MoS beat MCU in making actual films with substance
Shit, time to close shop, Disney

Why are the DC fans still so angry despite finally having one good movie?

>>92819546
Suicide Squad is better than Civil War.

>>92819750
Actually, WB made more money on Suicide Squad than Disney did on Civil War. The ROI was higher for SS.

Also SS won a fucking Oscar and also impacted a ton of Holidays with Harley Quinn's character. Meanwhile people forgot they even saw Civil War.

When will the MCU win Oscars and actually impact culture? Probably never with Disney in charge. Just look what they did to Star Wars.

>>92819767

>DC fans still so angry

Don't the German have a word for finding enjoyment out of other peoples misfortune? It sure as hell isn't anger.

Plus it's just company wars shitposting. Don't take it too seriously.

>>92819671

>zero Oscars

Reminder that this argument means DCEU fanboys think Suicide Squad is better then

>Heat
>Miller's Crossing
>Psycho
>The Shining
>Fight Club
>The Shawshank Redemption
>Magnolia
>It's A Wonderful Life
>Taxi Driver
>Blade Runner
>Do The Right Thing

>>92819766
Wonder Woman's RT score isn't final yet.

Sudicide Squad only beat Civil War in physical format sales, not overall profits or box office.

As for BvS & Mos... Critics, fans, movie going public, box office and profits would all seem to say otherwise.

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>>92819732
They didn't need to. This industry is a collective effort that goes from cinemas' grossing, to merch to simple, multiple investments. But you're looking only at one piece of the puzzle at the time, come up random numbers to prove said piece is disastrous and Disney must be in trouble, while on the other hand you people come up with shit like this >>92819719 and say that 10k of more DVD sales make ALL the difference for one company but not the other

Do everyone a favour and just shut up, go watch WW since they finally made a good movie for once, enjoy that instead of coming up with all this bullshit to rationalize that [other company] is dead and only your favourite one was ever successful

>>92819788
Yet more people still like Civil War than Skwad, how can that be. It's almost as if you're making up claims and exaggerating others to create an artificial narrative.

Oh good, finally a good film from DC. Now maybe all the autists can stop whining about how everybody wants DC to fail and that crticis are all bought off and paid by Disney.

Oh, who am I kidding, we all know they'll just shift the argument to "everybody wants DC to fail UNLESS it features a woman or a minority. SJWS!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

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>>92819792
Those are singular films.

Need I remind you that SS beat a collective of 15 MCU films at the Oscars?

>>92819805
DC fans will never be happy.

>>92819804
>Yet more people still like Civil War than Skwad,
Not according to home platform sales and OST sales and cultural events.

>>92819833

>OST sales

Man it was a fucking good Soundtrack.

>>92819792
Are you saying the MCU is as good as those movies?

>yesterday
>HAHAHAH GET YOUR EVANS READY BOIS THOSE EARLY REACTIONS FROM CRITICS ARE WB PLAYING TRICKS OUR MOUSEGOD WON'T LET IT BE FRESH XD

>today
>w-well who cares Civil War still made money haha

Sad and pathetic, tbqh

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>>92819819
Yep, they sure did. Skwad beat the fuck out of the MCU by the one merit that is regularly and highly criticized for the judges not watching the majority of the films up for consideration.

>>92819833
Again, when Civil War was on Netflix and Red Box longer those physical format sales don't really mean quite as much. Also, OST isn't really a good metric of the movie's quality (see Batman Forever and Batman and Robin) and as for cultural events I see just as many for Civil War as Skwad so you'll forgive me if I don't blow to such a vague metric.

>>92819826

I'm a DC fan, but then I'm also a Marvel fan. I'm very happy. Not too happy with what I've seen of Justice League so far, but hopefully WW will be massively successful and WB will start making more films in that vein instead of the previous direction.

>>92819875
That's an awful lot of forced narrative right there. Methinks you may have a bit of a victim complex.

>>92819875
>yesterday
>hahahaha Marvel is cucked by SJWs!!!

>today
>a-actually its g-g-good wonder woman is getting praise for being a feminist movie its legitimately good

>>92819871

No, I'm saying that people older then 13 shouldn't try and argue Oscars as a metric of quality.

>>92819876
>Yep, they sure did
Acceptance is the first step

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>>92819876
Don't try to trick me you butthurt nerd. Doubt you attended a single Halloween event. Every party I went had several Harleys and even a couple of Jokers. Nobody gave two shits about Iron Man.

Man can't wait for the day when MCU has enough artistic backbone to get an Oscar and impact people's normal day lives.

>>92819897

I doubt the types of people who get defensive over Snyder's movies will care much for Wonder Woman, honestly. It's optimistic. And it's good.

>>92819871
He's saying the oscars mean jack shit as they ignore many, MANY good movies. The MCU is just a recent side note

For fuck's sake, this is /co/! We've had dozens of threads about how easily and unfairly the academy ignores a lot of animated/children's films and often don't even watch them despite voting against them

>>92819906

But people aren't arguing that the movie is better because it won an Oscar. They are saying it won an Oscar because it was better.

>>92819897
>m-muh feminism
>m-muh cherrypicked reviews
Even more sad and pathetic tbqhwyfam

>>92819912
Now if only movie critics would star not watching the movies the rate like the Oscars do the DCEU would get the fair treatment it deserves.

>>92819923
> impact people's normal day lives

You mean 13 year old girls with Skwad posters on their walls?

>>92819952

Leave him alone. The girl at school that he has a crush on happens to have a Skwad poster on her wall.

So we all agree that BvS is pure garbage, because it has 25%~ RT score and doesn't even have any Oscars, right?

>>92819897

>wonder woman is getting praise for being a feminist movie

But it's not.

And even if it was there is a very wide margin between a strong feminist character and an SJW mouthpiece that talks down to its audience.

>>92819948
Why are you so upset? the DCEU finally has a good movie this should be a time of celebration.

The climactic battle was awkward, the slow-mo was thick enough to make me BORED in the middle of action scenes, and some of the jokes were cringe-worthy. The first part was okay, but it never comes together.

Everyone stomping their feet about it being good is trying to push some agenda: either DC, or female super leads, or whatever bullshit they're trying desperately to be right about. This movie was not good.

DC was the #1 all along.

>>92819973
Definitely.

Doesn't even have a cultural impact on people's everyday lives or OST sales to brag about.

>>92819792
Those were one-shot movies, if Heat was franchise of 15 movies all as good, rest assured they would have won oscars eventually.

Marvel movies are just bland and generic extended toy commercials. DC movies, for all their faults, at least try to be more than that.

The surprise hit so far has actually been completely assblasted Batfags and Superfags mad that a "D-list character" (whose comics of course they have never read but they totally know what they're talking about anyway) is getting success where MoS and BvS didn't.

Really wasn't expecting that.

>>92820000
If you say so chief.

>>92819356
IDF is going all out today for Princess STICC.

>>92819989
BvS OST sales BTFO anything made in the MCU though. And its physical home sales were on par with Civil War despite critical bashing.

Why is WB vilifying the Central Powers as if they were evil?

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>>92820007
Drink up friend.

>>92820000
I give you BvS and it's try hard pretentiousness, but do tell, how did SS try to do "more"

>>92820000
>DC movies, for all their faults, at least try to be more than that.

The Snyder movies definitely don't. Generic teenage angst and grimdark angsty nonsense is not better than marketing trash for kids. It's just pandering to different types of children. In the end, it's all childish garbage and you're a fool to pretend otherwise.

>>92820016
Civil War outsold BvS in physical format sales by a healthy margin and it's OST sales aren't anything to brag about, certainly not anywhere near GOTG or GOTG 2 and not anywhere compared to Winter Soldier or Civil War.

>>92820016
If OST sales are all that matters, why is everyone ignoring that GotG 2 and GotG 2 have been at the top of the charts for multiple weeks?

You can't complain about the fact that it contains licenced tracks, because so does SS

>>92820024
I'm a Wonderfag. I was expecting MCUfags to be the pathetic ones upset that a movie was actually good, not DCfags.

>>92819946

>But people aren't arguing that the movie is better because it won an Oscar. They are saying it won an Oscar because it was better.

How does anyone look at SS and think ti was even passable? The editing shreds the story. The soundtrack is laughable. The performances are either deathly boring or hammy to the point of not fitting. The action is endless putty patrol fights taht mean nothing. The team members never even get cool individual moments to make them stand out.

The only people who can claim Suicide Squad is better then even the worst MCU film are either shitposters or blind people. It's not just inept by comparison to other blockbusters, its' inept at basic filmmaking.

>>92820000

>DC movies, for all their faults, at least try to be more than that.

Suicide Squad renders that argument moot.

>>92820043
How many times have you said the word "grimdark"?

I guess you were too underaged for the Nolan trilogy.

>>92820016
Except it didn't.

>>92820024
>DC tears
>this whole thread is about mcucks not dealing with the fact that according to their tomato god WW is better than GotG
This level of delusion can't be healthy

>>92820016
>Captain America: Civil War 2,793,892
>Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice 2,324,415
On par? And with fact BvS theoretial cut was promouted as version with important parts, while CW didn't add anything.
BvS OST is perfect and it's a shame it was wasted on such trash movie.

Long time Marvel fan here, sucks seeing MCU fail so hard in comparison to DC. All we got now are shitty Iron Man copies whereas every DC film is unique.

>>92820058
The Nolan trilogy isn't grimdark at all. And if it was, that's just proof that MoS and BvS are disliked because they're bad and not because the planet/critics can't handle darker tones

>>92820066
You keep working that spin son, there might be a future for you as a Fox News commentator someday.

>>92820058
You're saying that like teenagers back then didn't latch onto Heath Joker like he was the fucking messiah.

>>92820058

The Nolan films were actually good movies, though. If you're going to try be dark, you better have substance to back it up Otherwise it's just cringe-worthy trash.That's the point. Snyder's films have no substance at all. If you got anything substantial out of those movies, you obviously are very, very young and have not watched very many movies in your life.

>>92820078
BvS is far more optimistic than TDK. You were just too dumb to get it you fucking retard. Stick to MCU kiddyshit.

>>92820084
It's a number kid, hard to spin it any other way

>>92820056

>How does anyone look at SS and think ti was even passable?

I don't know Anon I was just offering an explanation. I mean I enjoyed the movie but it wasn't anything to write home about. Honestly it's good for a rainy day when you want to watch something fun with a good amount of violence.

>>92820066
It'll be okay, maybe Justice League will be good too. You guys got whedon now after all.

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Don't worry, friends. So long as we say bad things about DC, then it totally justifies the sad state of the MCU and the lack of actual filmmakers who are making MCU films.

>>92820100
What number? The RT number, so far everyone in this thread seems happy that the DCEU finally has a good movie, MCU fans included.

>>92820100
It's an incomplete number. It will be influenced by more than a hundred more reviews in the next few days

I'm not saying it'll move all that much, just stating a literal fact

>>92820114
> If I cherry pick screen shots I can make anything a reality.

Good for you.

>>92819973
Do we agree Wonder Woman is better than the MCU since it has a better rating than Iron Man?

Why does every actual individual review on RT and every other site give it a wide range of 7. something or other translate into 90 percentile overall and the greatest comic film ever?

WB shill machine out in full force?

>>92820106
Justice League might have had a chance if Whedon directed the whole thing. No editor in the world is going to be able to spin Synder's amateur fanfiction into anything good.

>>92820137
Only if the final RT score stays that high.

>>92820139
It's Fresh score is so high because people were expecting so little from this film and to their surprise the movie was a pleasant surprise.

There's a reason why it's over all score is still a 7.5/10.

>>92820141
I wonder if that means they'll have to say the Avengers movies were good now?

>>92820141
Joss Whedon is a talentless hack
ounly autsitic SJWs like his crap

>>92820127
Are you saying that Civil War somehow doesn't look objectively worse than Iron Man?

Isn't it also funny how the last time Marvel was decent was prior to Disney destroying it?

So, let's get the facts for a sec before we keep talking about the hurt feelings of our marvel friends

>the DCEU grossed the same as the MCU in the United States in 2016
>the DCEU is $600M ahead the MCU by the third movie
>the DCEU has already won an oscar by the third movie
>DCEU movies outsell consistently MCU movies in home video sales
>all this against a shill smear campaign working around the clock
>as for now, the only thing lacking in the franchise was critical acclaim, WW just got praised as better than anything in the MCU too

But the next one will fail and DC will be finished, 5th time is the charm!

>>92820114
You realize Patty Jenkins is also a TV director for the most part, right?
Taika fucking Waititi has more feature films under his belt than her.

>>92820139
If you check most fresh movies have an average of 7 or 8. I guess it's just negative and positive scores evening things out

>>92820139
Because RT isn't an average score, it only counts reviews as either positive or negative, and shows the percent of reviews that are positive.

It's not a raw average like Metacritic or IMDB.

>>92820166
they were never good

>>92820173
They have literally nothing to fall back on now. I guess they realized it's easier to just resort to personal attacks on Snyder instead because fuck trying when you can hit the man grieving his dead daughter.

>>92820170

I think the guy is overrated, but a Whedon-helmed Justice League movie would give me a whole lot more hope than Snyder.

>>92820158
It's a 7.8/10 though, top critics is 8.8/10

>>92820172
Both films look great, some scenes in each less than others, but both movies look damn good.

>>92820173
The DCEU grossed 10billions with 3 movies?

>>92820174
Patty Jenkins has won more Oscars than the entire MCU combined.

>>92820173
Those are some awfully funny numbers you're spinning there guy. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>92820174
And yet her sole previous movie won an Academy award.

>>92820197
The people who attack Snyder and his daughter are obviously DC nutters.

>>92820215
And we know Oscars are all that matters. Yup, the one award you can win without the judges even watching your movie.

>>92820173
>7.5 is higher than 8
FIrst time I'm hearing it.

>>92820215
Patty Jenkins hasn't one a single Oscar. Theron did. If Jenkins is Theron then Favreau is his special effects team, since he's won an Oscar for that

>>92817388
>Its another episode starring a woman and /co/ tries to find ANY REASON AT ALL to hate it
>literally grasping at straws
Pathetic virgins

>>92820213
>by the third movie
Not yet, just getting there faster

>>92820216
I don't find them funny, there are people emotionally invested in the MCU and we should respect their feelings

>>92820231
Keep on throwing out excuses why nothing counts.

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>>92820206
>Both films look great
What did the Marvel shill mean by this?

>>92820247
you realize that the MCU has been building most of its characters from the ground up while the DCEU has been ham-fisting its biggest properties from the get go right?

>>92820173
B....b....but muh quips.....

>>92820251
Keep on throwing out excuses why everything counts.

>>92820215
She did, and in one movie too

>>92820236
Theron won when she was being directed by Jenkins in a Jenkins film.

And Favreau was the last person to actually make a decent Marvel back with IM1.

>>92820215
Pretty sure they have a handful of oscar winning actors m8.

>>92820251
does a Doctor get credited with all the accomplishments of a child that he delivers into this world?

>>92820247
If the third MCU movie was Captain America: Civil War, you might have an argument there, but it wasn't so you're really just comparing apples and oranges in the most biased way possible to try and rustle jimmies.

Try being happy for once, you actually have a Good DC movie for the first time in almost a decade.

Marveldrones are getting their asses handed to them HARD today jesus christ, is didioposting appropiate in movie threads?

>>92820173
>in the United States in 2016
Nice cherrypicking
>the DCEU is $600M ahead the MCU by the third movie
With A-list heroes. Batman SOLO could do billion, but Snyder is Hack. Marvel heroes were literally who.
>the DCEU has already won an oscar by the third movie
So, Moonlight is better than any DCEU movie, right?
>DCEU movies outsell consistently MCU movies in home video sales
That's just false.
>WW just got praised as better than anything in the MCU too
Just as Luke Cage which is garbage praised by sjws

And GotG2 did more than SS.
MCU is currently winning, but if JL will make more than Avengers, I'll amdit that DCEU won.

>>92820286
Or maybe that was the last Marvel movie you ever actually watched. :)

>>92820298
The worst false analogy I've seen in my entire life, congratulations

>Batman has had 8 previous films
>guy why didn't DC build him from the ground up, so hamfisted

>>92820314
>MCU is currently winning
How, when it suffered a massive half a billion drop from Avengers to Civil War? Meanwhile BvS performed closer to TDK than CW to Avengers.

>>92820323
Why, because it doesn't suit the obviously biased narrative you're trying to patent here?

>>92820314
>So, Moonlight is better than any DCEU movie, right?
It actually is. Both are better than the entire MCU too

>>92820323
explain why it's false?

>>92820329
That's not what he meant, you idiot. MCU had to build up IM, Thor, Cap, ficking Hawkeye. As you just said, WB didn't have to do anything to bring up the big guns

>>92820335
Because Civil War didn't have the name Avengers in it? Because it was released against far more competition than any of the DCEU movies did? Because it's not realistic to expect every movie in a franchise to make exponentially more than the last?

>>92820335
Most companies wish they could drop half a billion and still make more than a billion.

Its funny how Marvelfags have to cling to Guardians making more than Skwad, a movie that was literally barred from China yet still pulled comparable numbers.

>>92820314
>So, Moonlight is better than any DCEU movie, right?

Yes? Obviously.

Almost everything is.

>>92820338
>>92820349
Because direction is a very important factor to get good perfomances while that doctor shit is just you crying over your keyboard

>>92820361
Is it any different than all the things DCEU apologists cling to to rationalize movies that they themselves won't even defend as being good?

>>92820335
I think you are forgetting that it still made a fortune, like every damned MCU movie.

>>92820367
so you're saying a doctor delivering a child is not important to the birthing process?

>>92820367
So the MCU then gets credit for all the Oscars all of its directors and actors have won outside of the MCU then?

Well the MCU wins again I guess.