Who is the western equivalent of Guts?
Not Batman. Guts is too vengeful.
Not Punisher. Guts is too kindhearted.
Wolverine?
>>92775577
Guts doesn't have amnesia. Who has a prosthetic arm and fights demons?
>>92775577
I'd say Slaine, except Slaine is a complete bastard.
why would there be one
>>92775888
Who, indeed.
>>92775577
Western equivalent? Ash J. Williams
/co/ equivalent? Ash again? Guy has tons of comics.
If not him... Geez, I don't know.
>>92778541
Cerebus maybe?
He's basically Elric + Conan
>>92775577
I think Wolverine works well in that they're both loners with traumatic pasts who end up in groups anyway.
And they're the best there is at what they do, but what they do best isn't very nice.
>>92778672
actually maybe griffith is more like elric. guts and elric just has the curse and magic sword thing in common. griffith has the anemic albino sorcerer who betrays his people and serves a demon god thing
>>92775577
Why does the west need an equivalent to Guts? What makes Guts so good that we would even want an equivalent?
>>92778467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS3mSJ_3GTM
>>92778672
>>92778747
guts is conan + ash williams
guriffisu is elric without a conscience
>>92775577
Ceberus.
>>92778672
there's that other guy whatshisname with the hand
>>92775577
>>92775577
Thanks OP, I'll give Berserk another shot. I thought Guts was insufferable and I eventually gave up but apparently he does go through an arc of sorts eventually.
>>92778862
looked him up, prince corum.
now that I think about it is berserk just corum = guts and elric = griffith?
>>92779003
skip the black swordsmen arc. its the first arc, guts is an insufferable edgelord and the art is bad. the conviction arc is an amazing piece of literature on top of having art that belongs in the sistine chapel
>>92779021
>Corum is a Vadhagh, one of a race of long-lived beings with limited magical abilities dedicated to peaceful pursuits such as art and poetry. A group of "Mabden" (men) led by the savage Earl Glandyth-a-Krae raid the family castle and slaughter everyone with the exception of Corum, who escapes. Arming himself, Corum attacks and kills several of the Mabden before being captured and tortured. After having his left hand cut off and right eye put out, Corum escapes by moving into another plane of existence, becoming invisible to the Mabden. They depart and Corum is found by The Brown Man, a dweller of the forest of Laar able to see Corum while out of phase. The Brown Man takes Corum to a being called Arkyn, who treats his wounds and explains he has a higher purpose
yep that's guts
Jack
>Eastern Warrior created by Western Artist
>Hunted by demons and mercenaries
>Gets shit on constantly
>Gets cucked by Demon
>>92779115
>>92779003
Agree. Just skip strain to Golden Age, unless you've already read it then just pick it up at Lost Children.
Conviction, Millennium Falcon are great and Fantasia's been really good so far.
>>92778467
Actually? This one is pretty close, except his Casca is fucking dead and he had to decapitate her reanimated corpse. Also his sister was raped to death via trees, so he'd fit right into Berserk land.
Of course the comparison stops with the resourcefulness, crapsack world and history, he's too smarmy and witty to be a Guts personality wise.
>>92778467
True. Miura did worry he was going to get sued after he saw Ash for the first time.
>>92779115
>amazing piece of literature on top of having art that belongs in the sistine chapel
it's okay
>>92779244
the only parts of fantasia I really like was the rickert chapters and the guts childhood flashback. the fight with Raksas was awesome. the sea god chapters were boring filler, and the elfhelm chapters have been a huge letdown so far, especially the art.
lost children is the greatest thing ever put on paper and I've read it almost everyday for years. the fight with grunbeld was also fantastic and I reread it all the time
>>92779612
no
>>92778856
HE'S CALLED CEREBUS YOU FUCKING CASUALIf it was autocorrect then it's alright
>>92775577
Doomguy
>>92779228
Jack's the polar opposite of Guts
From their appearance down to the weapons they wield
>>92779115
>>92779244
>skipping anything
Why are you so wrong? Black Swordsman is the worst arc, but it adds depth to the Golden Age by the contrast and knowing that eventually things fall apart for Guts and Griffith.
I think it's enough knowing that Guts isn't a total edgelord faggot and he's just pretending to be one because he thinks he needs that facade to protect himself and those around him.
>>92779792
it's a huge turn off to anyone trying to get into berserk. lost children is basically a redux of the black swordsmen arc except 1000x better
>>92775577
Slaine
>>92780045
I hope guts sees Chitch again in elfhelm
Fuck demons
>>92780075
Same
>>92779115
>>92779792
I feel like skipping Black Swordsman is a rookie move. It definitely is the worst arc, and your criticisms are valid, but it's necessary because Golden Age is such an immediate contrast and makes you understand what you were seeing in the previous arc. It does a great job of making you understand someone you previously disliked, and then feel for them when it all goes to shit.
>>92780161
>>92779792
>>92779961
>>92780161
I thought the Black Swordsman included the entire thing with mercenaries and Griffith...
Does the quality pick up after that?
>>92780217
The Black Swordsman Arc is him literally killing demons, once you hit a flashback is the start of the Golden Age Arc.
>>92780217
the golden age starts at the end of black swordsman. after the count is killed it jumps to griffith talking to guts. its long and early muira wasnt a very good artist or writer but it progressively gets really good. I'd recommend reading it but I'd understand if you just watched the anime and then skipped right to lost children, but he anime criminally leaves out a lot of really really good parts like pic related