what the hell happened?

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A chimpanzee happened

>kino
/tv/, apparently.

>>92750827
Episode four and five were good as well. The downfall happened in episode 6.

>>92750827
Episode 4 was great. Comfy as fuck.

>>92750878

Why do people hate chimpanzees so much around here? What did chimpanzees ever do to you???

>>92750827
1: Great
2: Kino AF
3: Great
4: Good
5: Ok
6: Good
7: Meh
8: I liked it but it was a complete waste.
9: Good
10: Disappointing.

First four are great. Rest are meh. Worst is definitely the prison episode.

>muh kino
Please fuck off back to /tv/

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Meanwhile outside of /co/ntrarians the general public loved Samurai Jack's concluding season

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Why didn't you listen to him /co/?

Wow the new season was just as hit-and-miss as the old ones.

>>92751006
who cares?
most of reviewers on RT are riding the nostalgia train or shills

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>>92751006
>11 Reviews
>Most of it is just praising the visuals
>One guy even says the plot is weak

yeah ok.

>>92750827
KINO MEANS MOVIE THEATER

>>92751073
>original
>hit and miss

>>92751077
Glad to know you can see the minds of all those reviewers.

>>92750827
Shitposting, that happened

>>92751077
>>92751096

Meanwhile the average rating is 4.7/5

You wanna check IMDB's average ratings, too?

>>92750827
Autism and headcanons

>>92750827
>Ashi

>>92750827
The focus stopped being on Jack, and Genndy started copping out built up ideas.

To me, the show season began falling apart when the mysterious Samurai figure was reveal to be just a spoopy ghost to punch.

>>92751141
>see the minds of all those reviewers
>all those reviewers
there's only 11 reviews and I don't need to "see the minds of all those reviewers" when I can just read and evaluate their reviews.

>>92751006
>normies
Of course they'd love it, they wouldn't know taste if it slapped them in the face

>>92750827
So you're a gay furfag MRA?

>>92751006
The rest of the world is sjws though

>>92751006
The general public loves every mediocre thing.

>>92751257
>>92751290
Right. So the people whose opinion matters like it. Sounds good to me.

>>92751219
no, because other people's opinions on season 5 don't interest me anymore. I already know the season is not a 4.5/5 and no amount of shilling is going to convince me otherwise.

>>92751255
So what about their reviews says they're all shills?

>>92751318
Good to know you're learning

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>>92751318
>the opinions of people who like everything they're told to like matter

>>92751324
>no, because other people's opinions on season 5 don't interest me anymore

Now you know how people feel about you

>>92751257
Not even my normie friends liked this shit. They seem to all agree the first three(and some four) episodes were great, but they were all saying Ashi was probably going to die at the end. Alot of them stopped watching at episode 8 when it pretty much confirmed she was going to die. The only ones that stayed around just rolled their eyes and changed the channel.

Honestly was interesting watching people see the show who never watched the original series.

Defense force on full force today, god damn.

>>92751393
>People with different opinions = defense forces
Grow up

>>92750827
a fanfic waifu oc happened

>>92751402
>shills
>people

>>92751374
well you're the one the keeps replying while bring nothing to the conversation, so stop replying if you're not interested. just mindlessly listen to IMDB an RT reviewers you praise so highly.

>>92751402
Not really helping your case.

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>>92751290
>he says while posting on /co/mblr

>>92751419
>muh shills

>>92751458
Me thinking people are stupid for thinking that people liking something = shills doesn't help what cause?

I feel really bad for people that are going to watch the series in the future. They're going to have no idea why the series throws out all of its thematic elements in the final season to focus on a romance plot.

>>92751337
well lets start with the fact that most of them already decided it was great before it was over. obvious sign there. most of the reviews are clearly subjective and teeter on nostalgia value.

>>92751447
>well you're the one the keeps replying while bring nothing to the conversation

That'd be you, champ. You're the one saying that the consumers of a product voting with their feet don't matter. You can find a flaw in anything if you look for them.

Let's be clear. the overwhelming majority of people thought this was a great season and a great show and you're in the pretentious contrarian minority.

>>92751565
>muh appeal to popularity
Yeah and I bet you think Nu-Star Wars is actually good too.

>>92750827
>the episodes where Ashi and her clones are being brutally murdered are the only good ones

Really makes you think.

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>>92751565
>the overwhelming majority of people thought
Are you one of those people whose every opinion is determined by what everyone else thinks?

>>92751657
You're one of those people whose opinion is determined seeing what's popular and reflexively hating on it

>>92751257
Taste is a meme. People aren't born with a magical ability to determine abstract quality, otherwise some kind of a 'taste gene' would've been discovered already.

>>92751565
>Making sure your opinion goes along with whats popular

>>92751385
>see the show who never watched the original series.
This is retarded. Why would you do that?

>>92751731
Excellent deflection, but I'm honestly curious as to what makes you think your argumentum ad populum is valid in the slightest.

Why is /co/ full of white special snowflakes?

>>92751768
Because they are normies.
Also it's pretty stupid to assume everyone watching Season 5 grew up on the original series, even Genndy knows this.

>>92751565
I thought you weren't interested in what I have to say? So basically you just reply to reaffirm your beliefs. Got it sport.
I already told you I don't care what the minority thinks, made that really clear. Also, "muh vocal minority" is not a argument. Just because you're too stupid to think for yourself and have to relay on the hive mind to support your opinions doesn't make you automatically right btw.

>>92751783
Look, it's one of those neckbeards who thinks naming a logical fallacy means they're smart or right about anything

>>92751829
>Just because you're too stupid to think for yourself
Post your degree faget.

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>>92751829
>I am the only free thinker among the mass of sheeple

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>>92750827
>1-3 fags
kys

>>92751829
>I already told you I don't care what the minority thinks, made that really clear.

You mean the majority. You don't care what the majority means. You don't like it when most people hate your shit thing and your shit on things most everyone likes. To clear things up.

Sorry that you can't handle that people don't agree with your shit opinions.

>>92750827
12 year olds started unironically using the word kino

>>92750990
theyre not they gang rape

>>92751814
Doesn't make it any less retarded

>>92751913
>reddit spacing
not him, but you need to go back faggot

>>92751905
Ok. Episode 1-4 are kino. Better?

>>92751023
He was the prophet we needed, but didn't deserve.

>>92750924
RoasTed

>>92751868
I'm not him, but too many people on 4chan seem to be clinging to this 'huh naming fallacies is a fallacy too!' excuse these days.

Let me explain this for retards: fallacy != argument. When you're using a fallacy, you're not providing arguments. But in order for your statement to hold any actual ground, you need arguments. See the problem yet? Pointing out a fallacy is essential for your opponent to acknowledge it and provide some actual arguments for his statement.

>>92752010
>kino
Stop that, no episode is really bad outside of the second half of 10. But even the closing scene is great.

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>>92751222
>new season written by creator of series
>headcanons

>>92752074
Why do people even look for meaningful discussion on 4chan of all places?

>>92751481
/co/mblr isn't real besides some normalfaggotry.

>>92751994
Never been to reddit. You must really hate capitalization and spacing and punctuation?

maybe i should type like you and try less good to write things and use buzzwords and less diction cuck

>>92751419
Why would shills be posting after the fact. Are you a retard who just calls all dissenting opinions shills?

>>92752096
/co/ headcanons, anon

>Why was there a quality drop?

Gee, it's almost like the PILOT EPISODES are DESIGNED to be better than the rest to snag your attention!

Hmmmmm...

>>92752139
>Never been to reddit.
sure you haven't kiddo. go ahead and correct my grammar some more, it doesn't make you look autistic at all.

>>92752074
Probably because naming a fallacy IS a fallacy and is not a substitute for an argument and because something is fallacious doesn't mean it's wrong especially when you're not discussing something that can be argued logically, like whether something is "good" or not.

Streaming here

weebcrew.moe

>>92752173
Are you kidding me? Most pilots are absolute dogshit.

>>92752249
Eh, The Real Ghostbusters pilot was pretty rad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIOz2GcUa8

>>92752212
Except in this case you're being asked why you think your argument is valid.

>>92752249
Not for like, the last 20 years. Most shows now at least have a decent pilot just to hook people. You need that, especially with so much other choices people have for television.

>>92752212
>because something is fallacious doesn't mean it's wrong
This doesn't make sense in polemics though. If you state something, you should provide actual arguments for it, not to expect people to assume that you're automatically right. More on the contrary: in polemics, whenever one poses a thesis, it's automatically wrong until given proper reasoning, other we could just assume anything and there'd be no point in polemizing.
So if you see a fallacy during polemics, you should point it out and demand actual arguments.

>>92751006
This is the same site that has Age of Ultron at 74 percent (7.2) and whose Tomatometer for Beauty and the Beast changed from 52 (5.4) to 83 (6.x) after the LeFou Is Gay announcement. You expect me to trust that this has any bearing on what's good?

>>92752332
Every thread hating on Samurai Jack and calling it shit is stating something, not provide actual arguments, and expect everyone to assume that they're automatically right without anything resembling a thesis or proper reasoning.

>>92752212
You know what else isn't a substitute for an argument?
Asserting something is good because it's popular.

>>92752426
>is stating something, not provide actual arguments
There have been plenty of threads talking about plenty of reasons why it's bad. Just because you choose to ignore them in fear of having someone disagree with your opinion doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>92752441
Or asserting that something is shit because it's popular

>>92752478
"pacing" is not an argument

"mary sue" is not an argument

Throwing around buzzwords is not an argument.

>>92752518
Case in point.

>>92752485
Or asserting that someone only dislikes something because it's popular.

>>92751290
Good, this mean histrionics are going to get good taste just to attentionwhoring.

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>>92752249
Only shows that're intended to last a while.

Shows with a shorter run time tend to blow their budget on the first and last few episodes.

"Samurai Jack was never good in my opinion, the show had an episodic plot, that went absolutely nowhere like BTAS"

Awesome critical analysis, you guys convinced me with that logical argument. Samurai Jack was always shit.

>>92752518
>"pacing" is not an argument
It absolutely is a fucking argument, are you being intentionally obstinate or are you really just that dumb?

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>>92752518
jesus christ.

>>92752653

And I bet you think the statement "The pacing is bad" is a profound and logical argument.

The first 4 episodes or so did not really feel like SJ.

>>92752654
He's right though.

Especially when used incorrectly.

wtf I hate Jack now

>>92752518
>"pacing" is not an argument
You just went full fucking retard.
The ending alone was the most rushed mess of an finale that I've ever seen. Honestly everything after episode 4 is extremely rushed. How Ashi's conflict with her mother was resolved was terrible.

>>92752779
The pacing is objectively bad. You're gonna sit here and say shit like episode 7 was fine?
Holy shit what's wrong with you?

>>92752955
> rushed
opinion
>episode 4 is extremely rushed
>fast paced is automatically bad meme

That's not an argument. That's an assertion.

See? What I tell you.

>>92750827
>first three episodes closely resembled the sprawling mature epic that everyone's nostalgia made them think Samurai Jack was like
>rest of the season is how the majority of Samurai Jack really was when the veil of rose-tinted glasses is lifted

>>92753066
Yeah I am. Prove me "objectively" wrong

>>92753091
>First three episodes were edgy bait meant to reel in newfags and man children
>For some reason, people on /co/ only love the first three episodes

Makes you think

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>>92753107
Watch the fucking episode.
The whole scene with the army and the resolution with Ashi's mom was rushed and contrived as fuck. It was so bad, the majority of people didn't think she was actually dead.

>inb4 muh opinion

Even people who defend this season admit this part was rushed too quickly. Not like it matters though, you're gonna spout the same shit.

>WELL ITS UR OPINION, NOT AN A ARGUMENT, JUST UR HEADCNAON

You SJ fans are fucking pathetic. You can like something and still criticize it. You have got to be one sad delusional idiot to think season 5 was absolutely perfect.

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>>92750827
>what the hell happened

you tipped your fedora super hard because you can't stand a woman who is infinitely more athletic and distinct than you "ruining" your homoerotic self insert fantasy.

fuck off back to your tumblr safe space you immature bitch.

>mfw retards like this are STILL seething because they're too stupid to get the point of season 5

>>92753305
>The whole scene with the army and the resolution with Ashi's mom was rushed and contrived as fuck. It was so bad, the majority of people didn't think she was actually dead.

>a fight scene is resolved quickly and not drawn, and that makes it bad.

Opinion.

>Even people who defend this season admit this part was rushed too quickly

You guys say the supermajority of people who like the show don't matter and then you use the opinions of other people to support your assertions?

You can't have it both ways.

>ou have got to be one sad delusional idiot to think season 5 was absolutely perfect.

It is "great" 9/10

>>92753076
So the way they settled Ashi and her mother's conflict was fine to you. Even if you claim to like fast paced writing that doesn't excuse how badly handled it was. Having her mom come out of nowhere randomly and deciding to fight Ashi made no since. On top of that we're supposed to believe that Ashi killing her mother automatically cured her of her mental hangups and we never see her internal conflicts again. Also fast paced writing =/= rushed writing retard and my previous statements are assertions because I presented examples of why it's rushed. You need to take a English class before correcting people like a little faggot.

>>92753305
>It was so bad, the majority of people didn't think she was dead.

That didn't have to do with the quality of the episode, idiot. That was just people having fun theorycrafting and making tall stories, and speculating on her voice actor still having future lines in the show. The "your fanfiction didn't come true" meme didn't come out of nowhere. Every fucking Samurai Jack thread was infested with the like.

Namely "muh Scotsman fan service!"

>I-it's not perfect so there!

Are we resorting to damage control already?

And yeah, criticisms being opinions is pretty fucking important. There's a difference between a show being bad and a show not being for somebody. And seeing as how the popular opinion is Samurai Jack Season V was good, well...don't appeal to the masses.

>inb4 "N-normies don't know any better!"

Just because you're overly cynical doesn't mean you're smarter.

It's actually pretty damn easy to be cynical.

>>92753471
>Having her mom come out of no where randomly and deciding to fight Ashi made no since

Made perfect since for her to use misdirection to assassinate Jack.

> On top of that we're supposed to believe that Ashi killing her mother automatically cured her of her mental hangups and we never see her internal conflicts again

You assume she's indecisive and agonizes over her decision to join Jack or has mental hangups to cure.

>Also fast paced writing =/= rushed writing retard

Then stop saying it is.

>and my previous statements aren't assertions because I presented examples of why it's rushed

Repeating an assertion doesn't make it an argument.

>You need to take a English class before correcting people.

That makes no "since"

>>92753564
I think it was pretty clear that she used the army as a distraction to get to Jack, it's not "out of nowhere"

>>92751006
Rotten Tomato TV scores are complete garbage and should never be followed ever.

>see thread about samurai jack
>immediately gets filled with autist deflecting every argument with, "muh ad hominem," "muh opinions," "muh assertions."
this is why no one talks to autist in rl, because they refuse to admit that they're wrong and will go to fill lengths to moving goal post and putting you through mental gymnastics just to feel right.
way to ruin another thread you worthless autist, would of been nice to read some actual opinions on season 5.

Developments you didn't like happened, sucks for you

>>92753776
Not really. There's no reason to assume so.
We all just think that because it's the only logical explanation to justify this bad writing.

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>>92753497
>Present to him an argument and why the episode was clearly rushed
>Expect him to scream "WELL ITS UR OPINION" instead of giving a rebuttal like the retard he is
>Does exactly that

BRAVO

>>92753643
>People didn't think she was dead
>"It didn't have an anything to do with quality of the episode"

But it did you retard. The whole fucking Episode was rushed, this has absolutely nothing to do with fanfiction or any other bullshit excuse you Genndyboys keep repeating. For someone who has been abused their entire life, they completely handled that terribly, it has nothing to do with fan fiction but how poorly executed the whole thing was.

>Are we resorting to damage control already?

The only one resorting to damage control is you. Now you're saying "well uh maybe the show isn't for you" "maybe you're too cynical" Fuck outta here with that bullshit you stupid condescending autist. The writing is bad, the show NEVER had good writing. Get some standards before regurgitating fortune cookie nonsense.

>>92753928
>Present to him an argument and why the episode was clearly rushed
>Expect him to scream "WELL ITS UR OPINION" instead of giving a rebuttal like the retard he is
>Does exactly that

I was promised to be proven objectively wrong and you submit an opinion. Try not moving goalposts

>>92753825
This. Even lurking isn't fun anymore. Autist have turned this place into "muh intellectual battle ground" instead of just having chill and casual conversations about a tv show for 14 year olds.

>>92753928
Two paragraphs filled with nothing but ad hominem and rehashing what you already said. And a dash of "N-no you're wrong!"

Engaging.

You are lying to yourself if you think fan fictions weren't a big part of Samurai Jack discussion.

Explain in detail what "went wrong" with the fight against Ashi's mother. What should've happened? 10 uninterrupted of Ashi beating the shit out of her corpse?

That'd be edgy enough for someone like you.

Also

>Cynicism can't ruin my enjoyment of a series!

Are you serious?

While I enjoyed it, it mainly needed more time/episodes to really produce an effect. Scotsman was around for two episodes, an actual Guardian cameo (or at least Jack piecing together his defeat).

It needed more.

>>92754228
>You are lying to yourself if you think fan fictions weren't a big part of Samurai Jack discussion.
that's an assertion
>That'd be edgy enough for someone like you.
ad hominem

mods delet this thread
it's useless

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>>92754062
>Literally does it again.

>>92754228
>but muh fanfiction
>complains about assertions and ad hominem and does exactly that

>>92750878
There's nothing wrong with episodes 4-6

>>92754451
>He's stooping to my level!

An actual post on 4chan

>He continues to cling to the belief that people talking about their "alternate takes" on Samurai Jack wasn't fucking constant

Laughable

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>>92754510
You forgot your reaction image.

>>92750827
Well op looks like you're right.
Not one single person could make one decent argument in this entire thread.

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>Contrarions being the vocal minority yet again.
>I'm so smart for not liking something that everyone likes!
Give it a rest, we've seen all the complaints in the 1000 threads you made vs. the very few made praising the show. You don't like it, who gives a fuck? All you do now is make circlejerk/bait threads where you can feel superior to everyone else for having shit taste.

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>This whole thread

Fuck off back to /tv/

>>92750827
I don't think I agree with Episode 1 being Kino. It honestly has just as much material crammed in it as the later episodes.

>>92754611
>He said, after making posts where he blames the downfall of a show entirely on a female character he doesn't like

wew

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>>92751797

it really was great eye candy in the beginning

>>92751963
They raped Pepe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k

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>>92751006

Honestly guys. He's right.

/co/ has a higher number of contrarians than anywhere else except maybe /v/

>>92755075
>he

>>92755075
what about /a/

>>92755075
/tv/ is contrarian central, /co/ is just /tv/-lite

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>>92753812
>Rotten Tomato TV scores are complete garbage and should never be followed ever.

This.

>>92755093
>has

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>>92752010
Oh, how delicious! Anon is moving the goal posts to try and curry favor with other anons on a image board.

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>>92752518
Do you lack self-awareness or are you just incapable of defending this complete shitshow of a season?
Between SJ and SU bullshit im so fucking tired of these faux anime garbage cartoons.
/co/ needs to get over it already and accept that yeah, the final season turned out to be garbage and theres no going back.
Not like SJ was ever an overly impressive show to begin with.
>>92755075
Pretty sure saying the final season outside the premise that the first three episodes set up and then completely squandered is contrarian. /v/, /tv/, and /mu/ have the highest concentrations of contrarian bullshit on this site that makes /co/ look like a tepid pile of pure agreeability.

>>92750827
here's a list of cartoon shows that can be considered kino:

>>92751374
Want to know what people think of you?
Its exactly like watching someone eat a piece of shit out of the toilet and praise it for its taste, while calling everyone pointing out that youre praising pure shit a contrarian.
The season was trash and Genndy wasted an opportunity to make a proper sendoff just so he could recreate his adolescent wet dream. Its fucking pathetic.
If you thought the season was good, ok. Just don't expect people to give a fuck about your garbage opinion, especially when you cant defend it.

>>92751768
The final season is honestly pretty self-contained contained and the cameos add nothing besides fanbaiting.
The series has never been big on continuity, so all you really need to know is stated in the first couple minutes of the first episode.
I was never a big fan of SJ, shit i only watched it because when youre a kid youll watch anything on tv- and i was still let down.

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>>92758083
>Genndy wasted an opportunity to make a proper sendoff just so he could recreate his adolescent wet dream.
And pray tell anon, he waited 4 seasons and all these years to do this because...

>>92752122
Its a collection of messageboards dedicated to discussing set topics.
The whole idea is to create discussion. Of course some of it is meant to be meaningful.
If you disagree go back to /s4s/.

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>>92753474
0/10
You cant use fedora and tumblr in the same post and be expected to get any bites you baiting retard.
>>92758146
Because hes a fucking hack that had nothing better to do.
Do you have an actual point?

Put the intro to CI in the "Kino" category

Having the original opening as Aku propaganda with Mako's VA was perfect

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>>92758227
So he's a hack because he ended his show on his terms instead of pandering to the internet?

>>92758083
And I bet you have a 24 chapter magnum opus fanfiction just waiting for an artist to come along and make your genius vision of how Samurai Jack should be concluded and how no one can compare to your artistic vision. I enjoyed every season of Samurai Jack, its characters, its action, its humor, its writing. There, that's my garbage opinion I can't defend cause you say so.

>>92758267
Hes a hack because of instead of telling a decent story with the constraints given he shits out a malformed abortion to relive a literal masturbation fantasy.
Its not even about pandering. Its about being an actual craftsman, which he proved he isnt, just a self-indulgent tool.
"Genndy did it how he wanted it" is an observation, not a defense.
>>92758273
Why was any of this season good you cocksucking faggot? Other than just because you say so?

>>92758146
>And pray tell anon, he waited 4 seasons and all these years to do this because
Not him, but ee've gotten reports that he wanted Ashi in the series back when it was on Cartoon Network, but they didn't want a love interest

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>>92758382
>Instead of telling a decent story
But anon it was decent story, just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't decent.

>Masturbation fantasy
You seem extremely upset that a girl was involved in the show, I'm sorry that it got to you upset.

>It's not about pandering
But it is, this entire aguement is you spewing that he's a hack for not doing what the autist on this website thought he should do, that would've been the only 'decent' story any of you would've accepted. Instead he wrote his own shit, because pandering is bad and is never a good idea.

>>92750827
it was never good to begin with

>>92750827
Pacing, what's that?

>>92751006
all 11 of those reviews were written before the season was halfway through

>>92751023
He was right. Right about everything. Ashi ruined the season.

>>92758382
You mean I can't enjoy Jack's struggle with his sanity and his position in life or the fight scenes or how Ashi learned from him and got him to share his vulnerable side or the comedy of the season? Nope. Not allowed to enjoy the plot or characters or anything now that you're here to say it wasn't a generally enjoyable experience

>>92751245
>the show season began falling apart when the mysterious Samurai figure was reveal to be just a spoopy ghost to punch
This.

>>92751797
>white
wew

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>>92758576
>it was a decent story
Not really. In theory i guess, if you enjoy basic-bitch action/romance.
>you seem upset that a girl
Im not upset that theres a girl involved, im just disappointed that over half a season was wasted on an underdeveloped character that went nowhere and pushed aside so many more possible endings in favor of meaningless romance.
>B-BUT IT IS ABOUT PANDERING
he told an awful story badly and i dont give a fuck what other autists here think or mindless drones like you think. Its a wasted opportunity for the character of Jack, the setting of the show, and setup of the other seasons that he wasted what he already wrote to push out garbage.
Again, "he did what he wanted" is not a defense. If he wanted to produce this trite garbage then guess what, hes a hack.

>>92753305
>The whole scene with the army and the resolution with Ashi's mom was rushed and contrived as fuck
And the part where Jack defeats his inner demons with eye lasers.

>>92754240
All it needed was a finale that didn't suck.

>>92754453
Yes, there was, and I dont know what it was but it was awful and made me stop watching the last season and instead DVR it.

>Episode 1, amazing.
>2 was even fucking better.
>3 was holy shit.
and then it started feeling different, the feel and flow of the show changed drastically up until the last episode where it essentially "wraps" things up.

You want more proof, or the best proof?
>The Scottsman dies, and then tells his daughters "we need to find Jack"
>They do not look for him at all, but instead watch tv.
>Then later Scot shows up "CELTIC RUNES IMA GHOST"

So in other words there was a whole big set up for him to be doing something amazing along with his girls, but it turned into a "lets just show them off at the end."

The series should have ended with everybody fighting Aku and winning, rather then "Jack just undoes time" Jack was a fucking messiah but instead, now, in the viewers eyes, is nothing more then a joke.

>Aku killed millions.
>But I will kill billions with time distortion!

Jack himself should not exist if thats the case.
>Jack goes into the future to go to the past to kill Aku.
>So their is no future.
>So now what?

>>92758695
You can, im just pointing out you're a moron.
Youre just like those retards on /v/ that are criminally underread abd eat up whatever shit is in front of you like no tomorrow.

>>92758244
>Put the intro to CI in the "Kino" category
Just the intro though. Everything past "I love you" was pure trash.

How hard was it really to have a decent finale? Just have a good fight between Jack and Aku, have Jack go back to the past, Ashi disappears, Jack reunites with his family and rebuilds his kingdom. Then show the credits with scenes of the future characters living better, Aku-free lives.

>>92758766
Yeah and I'm a moron because you said so. Not an argument or anything, but you'd have to be an incredibly immature child to argue that someone is retarded for liking the show because you don't

>>92758734
>Mindless drones like you think
I was gonna take you seriously, but now I know you're one of those auti- I mean, 'critics'. Once again anon, you're not above any of us for not liking the show, you're as much as an autist like the rest of us.
>he did what he wanted
Is a defense because he's the guy making the show, you can call him a hack all you want but the show would've never been good in your eyes unless he filled your criteria for a 'good' show. But go ahead a tell me that I'm a sheep again I'm sure you're aching to.

>>92750924
Oh shit, even my ass is sore from this one.

Episode 4 was really good OP, fuck you.

>>92750827
>what the hell happened?
Your butthurt happened.

>>92750827
Here is exactly how this series should have ended.

>Last 3 episodes.
>Jack and girl fall in love, have child.
>Get attacked by Aku.
>Jack stays behind to fight Aku's minions, she takes the baby and runs.
>Discovers she has some strange powers thanks to Aku.
>She takes child to various people Jack helped, and learns "just like Jack did"
>The blade is returned by old friend who found it.
>Jacks son, takes up the blade, with the power of Aku "sorta" and goes to rescue Jack who is being used as some plot device.
>The series fucking ends with Jacks child slaying Aku, similar to how the first episodes are with Jack and his dad.
>Jack finds fucking peace, has a family, and its all over.

>>92758083
>shit analogy

>>92758829
You were never going to take anything seriously. Its like your shit defense if the show.
"He made it how he wanted" is not a fucking defense. He told a story terribly. Was I expecting a different direction? Sure. Was the direction he did take good? Not really. And it wasnt even executed well.
Shit story, tomd like shit. Hes a fucking hack, anon. If you liked, ok, but youre just as stupid as Genndy then.
>>92758793
Youve provided no defense for the show past "but i liked it". Im sorry that you cant accept that maybe you have poor taste for being entertained by this garbage. But keep pretending its all just autists or whatever makes you feel comfortable with yourself i guess.

>>92757613
>moving the goal posts
That is such a wrong use of the term.

>>92758968
Uh yeah, my defense for liking a show is why I liked it and what parts I liked about it. Sorry that you're so socially inept that you are upset by people enjoying a show.

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>>92759006
You still have shit taste and I'm sorry your taste in media is painfully mediocre.
Accept your mental deficits and move on.

>>92759093
Argument by assertion just means you've already lost no matter how childish you get about it.

>>92750959
>4: Good
>6: Good
what the actual fuck anon
>>92750929
>>92750943
>Episode four good
>Episode 4 was great. Comfy as fuck.
WHAT THE FUCK

>>92759124
Episode 4 would've been good by itself I think, it was a nice showcase of Jack's old personality after the rollercoaster of episodes 1-3, and I was expecting it to shift back to the tone of the first three episodes afterwards, but it never did

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>>92750827

Does anyone remember when ADULT SWIM and RICK and MORTY hijacked AS all night and delayed Jack ep 4 for another week?

I have a theory they decided to do some last minute edits and tone down the violence.

>>92759169
Ah, so it was good because it fit your expectations when the show was airing weekly?
Fuck you and everyone else who ruins art because "it made sense at the time".

>>92759188
This is almost certain actually.

>>92759169
>E4
>Jack positive and joking all the way through
>E5/6
>Oh shit I forgot I was meant to be depressed LIFE IS HOPELESS

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>>92759431
>Oh shit I forgot I was meant to be depressed LIFE IS HOPELESS

Yeah, who would've thought believing you killed a bunch of kids will do that to your mental state? It boggles the mind.

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>>92751245
>The focus stopped being on Jack, and Genndy started copping out built up ideas

Fucking what? There was more focus on Jack and his character in this season than any other season before it. In the original series he was nothing more than a vehicle for one off stories. That doesn't mean it was bad, but you can't say the original explored his character at all without straight up lying.

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>>92750827
>the spaceship wasn't kino alien reference
>the kiss scene wasn't top tier satire
>the finale wasn't best forced anti-climax journey truth finding masterpiece
check your lack of taste before posting next time, ape.

>>92757438
>no

>>92760000
>waifu

>>92758967
everyone eats shit

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>>92758083
>ts exactly like watching someone eat a piece of shit
Stopped reading there, if you can't even write a decent analogy without resorting to literal shit talk, you shouldn't be posting

>>92751006
I seen no problem with it. Its a fucking cartoon, and the formula should not have changed from what it started out as when it first aired.

>>92760286
They probably had to change it to catch the attention of the (now adult) public that used to watch it, otherwise it would probably pass off as an uninteresting kids show that today's young audiences have no interest in and that no network would pick up, and then the show got lost in some grey area in between were mature elements were mixed with more childish ones and well, we get the drama that's going on around here.
I loved the new season, it was entertaining for what its worth, though nothing really unique or awe-inspiring at the end of the day.

>>92758227
LMAO at this faggot sperg's impotent rage.

you've refuted nothing, fedora bitch. your inability to comprehend an ending =/= an argument. also, 4chan's 18+, so you're gonna have to fuck off for a few years anyway you uneducated shitter.

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>>92750827
Episode 1-3 was the best, but I still had fun all the way until the end.

>>92751077
>Someone doesn't agree with me
>the must be a shill or blinded by nostalgia
Never change.

>>92760875
Dude, we're talking about TEN FUCKING EPISODES, not ten seasons.

>>92759124
>someone disagrees with me
WHat the actual fuck anon, you FUCKING retard.

>>92764817
So far this >>92758676 is the only sound argument as to why those reviews can't be trusted.

>>92764855
But nothing about that has anything to do with length.

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>all these autist who think the season was 10/10 and handwave any kind of criticism as "fan-ficiton" or not an argument

Good job ruining another thread. God forbid anyone who actually wants to discuss the show and its flaws.

Everyone I know who saw the final season fucking loved it, and they're longtime SJ fans. I fucking loved the final season, including the finale (ESPECIALLY the finale). What the absolute fuck is wrong with all of you?

>>92764944
>>92764956
Like pottery

>>92750827
>>92750943
>>92750929
Why are people so down on Episode 4? Only the last scene was bad.

absolute KINO-tier
>1
>2
>3

Good-ol' SJ-tier
>8
>9

okay-tier
>7
>10

Jack and the baby-tier
>4
>5
>6

>>92765978
>Good-ol' SJ-tier
>8
You dun goofed, man.

1: Kino
2:OH_MY_GOODNESS_I'M_ABOUT_TO_CLIMAX.mp4
3: Kino
4: Good (Plot)/Amazing (Visuals)
5: Great
6: Unnecessary but I liked it/Fuckin' Scaramouche
7: Meh
8: Kino intro, meh everything else
9: Ok, kino ending
10: Decent but underwhelming

Why does every returning series only get like 10 episodes now? How much did could they possibly need for a full 26-episode season?

>>92767506
What makes you think that Genndy wanted a 26 episode season? He didn't. He wanted something short and quick and that's what he made.

>Scottsman trying to get Jack to breed with his daughters
>this brilliance is a 30 second throwaway joke in the final episode
>instead of an entire episode in it's own right

honestly the biggest injustice here

>>92751245
>began falling apart when the mysterious Samurai figure was reveal to be just a spoopy ghost to punch.
I wouldn't say "falling apart," but it was certainly anti-climactic as shit.

Honestly, the first three episodes were the best. The next few are very good as well. Starting from six onwards the series is still good, but just "good" not great.

Last half of the finale was disappointing. The artwork and music was good but the writing simply wasn't there. Even more anticlimactic than episode six.

>>92751743
Nobody is suggesting that you're either born with taste or you're not. Like basically everything having to do with personality its an acquired trait.

Autism on the other hand, is something you're born with, something you specifically seem to have been born with.

>>92767506
>Fuckin' Scaramouche
Did you mean good or bad? Can't tell.

>>92751318
How to spot the redditard.jpg

>>92768027
>Autism on the other hand, is something you're born with, something you specifically seem to have been born with.
LAD STATUS: WEW'D
WEW STATUS: LAD'D

>>92752086
I agree, but nothing after episode five is exceptional either. Episodes 1-3 where basically next level in terms of the storytelling western animated television is able to produce. The rest of the series varies in quality, and while it does stay above the median in terms of quality, nothing reaches the peak of the first three episodes.

>>92758763
Basically this. The start of the season was like Samurai Jack but better. It transcended what the series was and pushed boundaries. I don't know why Genndy lost steam so fast after that. I feel like episode six was a big time sink. I appreciate the cameos but they were all more long winded than they needed to be.

>>92759504
Him believing that and running off at the drop of a hat is contrived as fuck to begin with. The difference between Ashi and Jack's understanding of the situation is that Ashi stood there for five more seconds. WOAH.

>>92768258
> was like tryhard Samurai Jack but worse.
ftfy. Still remains true that their quality was significantly higher than the rest.

>>92768316
>was like tryhard Samurai Jack but worse
What is this even supposed to mean? Name one Western animated television show that comes close to the first three episodes of Samurai Jack season five. I'll wait.

>inb4 Sam Jack season 1-4
Yeah no, fuck off.

>>92768037
The only thing bad about Scaramouche is that he died in the end.

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>>92768316
>was like tryhard Samurai Jack but worse.

>>92768037

He skideedily beep bop'd his way into my heart, anon.

>>92750827
Genndy was left unchecked and went full retard.

>>92768480
>The only thing bad about Scaramouche is that he died in the end.

one of the best posts ITT by far. i can't find anything wrong with it.

>>92768480
>guy who massacred a village or innocents to get someones attention
>laughs about it
>"LOL BUT HE WAS FUNNY SO HE DESERVES TO LIVE"

>>92768666

>there will never be a buddy cop style episode involving Jack and Scaramouche playing off each other as they hunt alien bounties while Jack is constantly annoyed with Scaramouche's silliness

slit me wrists

>>92768719
I'm not commenting on the morality of the character you autist. He was a fun character and I think it would've been fun to see him manage to slink out of the conflict with his life somehow. Then again after Jack goes into the time portal we don't see anything of the future so its a moot point.

>>92768719
Jack slaughters an entire reality over his hateboner for Aku.

>>92768719
And yet all you have as evidence of that is Scaramouches word.
He might have been lying.
He might have defeated the real villain and was just a double agent trying to get Aku out of hiding so that Jack could kill him.

Scaramouche is the true hero of Season 5.