>Take a typically anime trope >Apply/add it to your favorite

>>92748947

>main girl is going to be late for school
>she runs out the door with toast in her mouth
>main guy is an aloof doofus
>they collide
>main guy gets a handful of titties when they land on each other

>>92748947
>big bouncy tits and loli pantsu everywhere
Cartoon improved 1000%.

>>92748947
I would fucking love a shonen battle tournament arc in something like Adventure Time or Star Vs.

>>92751740
>the laziest, most tired trope in anime, the thing mangaka do when they just give up on having story in their battle shonen and just condense it to fights
>love
You're either an underageb& or severely retarded.

>>92750549
I like the cut of your jib

>>92751802
watch Yu Yu Hakusho and HunterxHunter, you'll change your mind.

>Star Wars but with Mobile Suits
YES

>>92751802
>thing is done a lot because it works
>dismiss it as lazy because you demand novelty for novelty's sake

>>92754182
Hunter x Hunter's tournament isn't even that good, the only decent fight in that arc is Gon vs Hisoka and it doesn't even compare to Gon vs Bomber desu

I'd really like more Western magical girl series. The only two I can think of off the top of my head that play it straight are WITCH and Miraculous.

For some reason, Western 'magical girl' series make the characters spies or secret agents, like Totally Spies, Kim Possible, and Phineas and Ferb. Come to think of it, even if you count secret agent girls, I can't think of a bad Western magical girl show.

>>92754182
>Yu Yu Hakusho tournament
No! Fuck that thing went on forever. It was interesting at first but damn it felt like a dozen Nameks. G Gundam's tournament wasn't that bad but most tournaments can go to hell; Japan is bad with pacing.

>>92750549
>>92754115
You can always use more gratuitous nudity. Hell Ranma's tits are the only thing that got me through that show.

>>92754474
The only thing? I thought that show was hilarious.

>>92754616
Maybe I should rephrase that; Ranma's tits were needed to counter Happosai's stupid repetitive bullshit.

Star Vs + NTR

Well it would be a lot more interesting of a show that's for sure.

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>big action scene
>bombastic music kicks in at exactly the right moment

Western cartoons are terrible about this

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>>92754247
>Mobile Suits
>Not VFs

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>>92748947
Not my favorite but...
>monster girl harem
>scooby doo

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>>92754355

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>>92757811

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>elves are treated as objects for a means to an end instead of living creatures with rights

>>92759696
>Bunch of people trapped in a fantasy world
>Travelling with a Tank
>Tomboy driving the tank
>Sig 550
This sounds like my fetish, even if the rest of it sounds like a bad plot for animu bullshittery.

>>92748947
So THAT'S where all the kinky women are.

Western Animation
>Tomboys are the worst girls
>Tsunderes are the best girls
Japanese Animation
>Tomboys are the best girls
>Tsunderes are the worst girls

>>92759913
kek

>>92748947
The trope I'd like to see the most is everything has shading/good lighting! I never understood why western animators were too lazy to shade, even during the golden age of animation.

>>92759543
ah man i can't wait for october again.

Recess: Dark Tournament Arc

>>92759992
Oh yeah I love how anime actually has shading and actual lighting and really nice looking backgrounds. Its too rare in western animation.

>>92748947
>flashing tits
>not mooning the guy
Redraw this immediately

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>>92760899
why wait?

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>Perverted Mentor

>Teaches a class of DC super girls

>>92754182
Yu Yu Hakusho was fucking ruined by that tournament bullshit. Fuck off.

>>92748947
>Harm
>Spider-Man
pppfft already a thing

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>moe slice of life
>cute horses doing cute things
It works!

>>92748947
>Side character freaking the fuck out over something happening, and explaining it in full detail.

Not even gonna lie, I'd love to see shit like this in something like adventure time.
>"Finn, the Lich has possessed the princess!"
>"Gasp, the Lich has possessed the princess?"
>"Oh my glob! The Lich has possessed the princess!"
>"But how could the lich possess the princess?"
>speedracer.jpg

>>92754182
>>92754474
Yu Yu Hakusho's tournament was so long it's literally the only thing I can remember from that series.

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>>92761108
Sounds like a western Speedwagon or similar character

>>92754355
MLP is basically a magical girl series.

>>92761134
Speedwagon is a good example of it.

That said, you can't beat speed racer for sheer delivery, or in this case, YTP delivery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwcI0FOpvY

That thing where something happens and it's like 20 reactions cutting in one after another from everyone present .

The bit where the characters suddenly get hyper detailed as a transition into "serious mode"

Overly detailed internal monologues that , despite their length , don't disrupt the flow of time outside of the monologue

I like these things

>>92748947
>Its a tournament arc
>but with super heroes

I'd read it. Hell, make it into a mini. Would be fun

>>92761196
That was quite the rampage.

>>92754256
>works
Sure, works to get little children who are too lazy to read and just want to see heroes punch each other in the face to buy the issue.

Do you know another thing that "works"? It's when they take a comedy/drama/mystery shonen and force the author to turn it into a battle manga just because those are more popular. Less novelty, more of the same shit, the mangaka's soul is crushed, but it "works".

>>92754182
Just because the fights themselves were good, it doesn't mean the tournament is a good arc type. It's still a lazy and creatively bankrupt move. That's like if in a cape comic, instead of the formula of "crime happens -> hero investigates -> hero fights and apprehends villains" the comic would just be full of people in colorful costumes punching each other in the face. Or in an echi manga instead of coming up with ways to plausibly display fanservice, the author would just have all of the girls be compulsive exhibitionists who would randomly show their tits every 15 minutes. All of that might be fun for an issue, but then you just get sick of it. Like eating cake for breakfast, lunch and supper.

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>>92748947
gender swap for no reason

>>92754474
It's funny how the guy was also the hottest girl on the show hands down. But then again, it was drawn by a woman, so it didn't really have any fantastically sized tits or extra-lewd behaviour.

If only we didn't have all this moralfaggotry in the West we could also enjoy tits in kids' shows. But no, American parents would either have their child see a real life murder than a drawn naked woman.

>>92761258
that serious mode thing I'd love to see in western shit. its really hype or funny when done right.

>>92761704
>cop also goes trough the emasculizer just to keep an eye on the prisoner
That's some dedication.

But being turned into a girl isn't even a punishment. You'd have to be a chauvinist prick to think that. I prefer sissification as a form of justice.

>>92761746
More importantly, his fuck buddy is the judge.

>>92761708
yeah its really odd how we glorify violence over what is inherently pleasurable.

Show kids people beating the shit out of each other in cartoons like but god forbid show an almost bare breast. or even just a shapely figure

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>>92761291
>it's a torunament arc
>but with superheroes

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>>92761291
Um... Anon...?

>>92761704
was it rape?

>Huge off model over the top reactions to shit.

like in happens in some cartoons, but not enough especially these days.

>>92761121
it had like FIVE tournament arcs. same as Flame of Recca too.

>>92761810
no look closely, she has money sticking out of her blouse side. she seems to be a prostitute.

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>>92761794
>>92761802
Ayyy
Great minds think alike.

>>92761291
Countdown Arena.

>>92761746
>You'd have to be a chauvinist prick to think that.
Or you know NOT trannyfuck

>>92761704
>judge and prostitute are same person
>the cop goes through the machine
>everyone's so fucking happy
This is a great comic and what did they actually mean by this?

>>92762356
the guy isn't he's shedding tear in panel 3 and 4.

>>92759559
Star is a girl with magic powers, but that's not even close to what the magical girl genre is. That's like saying Transformers is a giant robot series because it has large robots in it.

>>92762512
It's obviously a magical girl show *parody*.

>>92754247
Do you mean Warhammer?

what if western millennial cartoons but anime is basically the entire premise of Steven Universe, ie the show with the most direct references to evangelion this side of a Gainax joint.

>>92762549
It takes lots of themes and elements from magical girl shows, but it's hardly a parody. Bee and Puppycat is a better parody than Star.

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I couldn't see a Western cartoon getting away with the one episode that is just two of the main characters narrating at each other to fill in all the plot holes the writers forgot to show in the actual episodes.

>team full of villians with unique powers, backstories and interactions.

>>92763622
Hiatus x Hiatus?

>>92763513
>Bee and Puppycat
literally who

>>92763528
Isn't that basically the (hated) LOK Remembrances episode?

>>92754307
Gon and Hisoka don't fight in the tournament since Gon wins agains Hanzo, you're thinking about something that wasn't a tournament.

>>92763713
He's thinking of the Battle Tower or whatever its called

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>>92763678
nah, that's a recap episode -- summarizing all that has already been seen -- and Western cartoons do that often enough. I'm talking about the episodes in Lain and Ergo Proxy and even fucking Evangelion where the story just STOPS while someone in-story rattles off facts about things that happened off-camera.

Western cartoons do the "are we all on the same page? because shit's gonna get real." Anime does the "we're running out of time so I'm just going to tell you things and you'll have to accept it before we move on."

>opening theme plays during the final battle
>show has multiple OPs plays the first
If only cartoons had OPs

>>92761653
No it would be like if capes were stranded to fight on a planet in some type of "Secret Wars".

I wouldn't mind characters announcing their attacks as they did them.

>>92751802
Not him, but Tournament arcs are a fantastic way of showcasing characters that don't get a lot of love and giving some fan service in having two characters that wouldn't fight otherwise have a match. It's a great way of giving the fans certain things that they wouldn't get otherwise, and can be done just as well as any other type of story arc.

Dragon Ball had some great tournament arcs, and the Chūnin Exam's Tournament in Naruto was a lot of fun and gave us some of the better fights in the series.

>>92764021
It's not remotely a recap episode. Did you actually watch it, or are you just one of those bandwagon haters who didn't even bother?

>>92761653
>That's like if in a cape comic, instead of the formula of "crime happens -> hero investigates -> hero fights and apprehends villains" the comic would just be full of people in colorful costumes punching each other in the face.
So pro-wrestling?
I would read a pro-wrestling comic with meta humans.

>>92762960
I'm pretty sure Warhammer isn't star wars with mobile suits

>>92764162
>Superhero parody Manga/Anime
>Characters yell their attack names before using them.
This bothers the fuck out of me. If you're going to parody something, why bring in conventions from other genres that never pop up in these things?

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>>92764244
You don't need an entire arc, though. Teen Titans did it awesomely with a single episode.

>>92764353
Teen Titans did a fantastic job at it, but it did feel a little rushed because it was all compressed into a single episode.
Sure, plenty of shows pad it out way too much, but usually Tournament arcs have more plot stuff going on than just fighting. Just like the episode you just posted does.

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I know it's really fucking dumb, but imagine if a show like samurai jack basically did a shot for shot remake if the ending of gurren lagann.
Wouldn't that be weird as hell? No way they would spit on the fanbase like that.

>>92754247
>Star Wars but with Mobile Suits
Isn't that just Gundam?

>>92764398
Honestly the ONLY problem I had with that episode was that we didn't get the follow-up with the girls fighting (especially with Terra being there). Mind you, that's a pretty big problem.

>>92763936
Not even a tournament. Its more of a training arc than anything.

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>>92763643
One if many

There almost always great

>>92754668
You really should read a manga, it is much better than anime

>>92762175
It's a complete transformation. Brain included. You'll feel at home in your new body. It would be an actual punishment if they change everything except the brain leaving you a lesbian with body dismorphia.

>>92764244
>these character really don't get enough panel time, should I develop them as characters?
>and these characters wouldn't normally fight, should I write some clever plot twist to make them fight?
>lel, nope, I'll just write a tournament arc like a lazy piece of shit

>>92748947

>>92764265
For some reason I was thinking of the Fire Island Players episode in LoA. Don't know how I fucked that up.
"bandwagon haters" really?

>>92767573
Secondary character sometimes simply aren't important enough to the plot to warrent further development, or their character arc is concluded so it's hard to include them in real arcs as major characters. And Hero vs. Hero stories are always fucking stupid outside of tournament arcs, let's not pretend otherwise anon.

Brainlet detected.

>>92754115
What's a jib?

>>92748947
I just want a western cartoon with a hot-blooded protagonist that's actually painted in a good light, is that too much to ask?

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>>92768135
You called? (Referring to Robin obviously.)

>>92768153
Robin was hot-headed at times but he wasn't Hot-blooded, I honestly think Cyborg was more hot-blooded than all the other members given the climax during the brother blood arc.

>>92767735
>I like eating shit and everyone who doesn't is stupid

>>92769043
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but anyone that likes Hero vs Hero stories is dead sure someone that loves shoveling shit down their throat.

>>92764276
>I would read a pro-wrestling comic with meta humans.
Just like Kinnikuman?

>>92761704

source?

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>>92751802
Just because it's often done poorly doesn't mean tournament arcs are bad in principle. Pic related is one of the GOAT tournament arcs because not only did they have great fights, they had tons of stuff going on outside of them and behind the scenes as well. Not only did you have the scheming aspect from the tournament officials, you also had characters being explored. Even Keiko and Kuwabara's sister got fleshed out over the arc.

>>92769706
green tea neko, is in the image

>>92748947
>Nazis experimenting with supernatural weapons
>Steven Universe

>>92751802
It can be done well though.

>>92759573
That was at the very end of a season and we never saw the fight

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>>92754355
boy, do i have a treat for you

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>central dualistic theme of hope vs despair
>Star Vs.

Oh, wait...

>>92761291
>it's a tournament in Arkham 10 parts story
Lets fund it

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>>92748947
Henshin style transformation for this guy.

>>92751802
So... what are your thoughts about tournaments in real life, then?

>>92761291
I wonder what Western superheros would be most likely to participate in a vaguely martial art style tournament for charity?

I think Captain America would be down.

Probably Mr. Terrific... Definitely Wildcat I'd imagine for DC.

Megas XLR is essentially anime tropes, just handled by a clueless American

>>92776046
I don't care for them, but for different reasons. I can't get invested enough to care about who wins.

>>92776519
>homework and cough syrup factory

>>92776726
I suppose that's fair enough. You probably need to care about what's being competed in to begin with.

>>92776002
Magical Girl transformation, that way you can keep the rhyme.

>>92776275
The various Kung Fu fighting superheroes from the seventies and eighties. Probably a few of the Merc ones from the 90s. Any 40's and 50's superhero based on sports. Especially boxing.

Outside of them, you wouldn't get a lot. Not much time to fight in a big tourney when Toyman has taken over a Toy factory and is going to kill us all.

>>92776275
Iron Fist would for sure. probably also Damien Wayne
spider-Man would get excited at the idea of entering for a few seconds then suffer a horrible amount of guilt after remembering what happened last time he fought on-stage for fame and fortune