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Tropes You Hate

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>early seasons
>smart character is just book smart but is a bit more knowledgeable about certain things than his friends
>later seasons
>smart character is somehow a nuclear physicist who can make advanced chemicals out of household items with zero effort
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based shaggy working the genndy smarks
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The same thing but for stupid characters that become retarded
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>>92735080
You mean like Patrick who was just a lazy stoner who pretended to have life figured out, only to evolve into a character who is too stupid to even breath?
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>character has developed away from that fucking annoying behaviour they had and is a better person
>later seasons
>THEY START DOING IT AGAIN
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>>92735044
The idiot hero.
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>"We are much alike, you and I"
>They really aren't
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>>92735080
>>92735128
Pic related
Went from a good-hearted buffoon with moments of clarity to a complete retard
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>If you do [blank] you're no better than they are
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>>92735903
>Fuck off Batman, we kill the Joker now and he can't continue to gas an entire neighborhoods worth of people every other week
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>>92735080
Like Randy from My Name is Earl, he started as a redneck ended with him being an actual retard
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>early season has a really good joke that becomes iconic
>later season repeats the joke again and again
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>>92735044
Honestly it's not even a thing against tumblr at this point for me, but i'm sick of cartoons that have things that OBVIOUSLY pander to tumblr's hivemind (Like the toally nonbinary character or the radical chick that does things chicks don't normally do and no one makes a big deal out of it, so LET'S MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT!

That kind of shit.

It's no better than the early 2000s trend of being 'friendly' to gays by including a token flamboyant femme gay man (Will and Grace for example).

Aside from that...I'm tired of incompetent villains. Like, fuck, i screw up 1-4 times on something i give up for a long time. They either have to improve (which would be neat to see a villain actually gradually get better over the course of a series just through learning from his failures without him being the protagonist) or they have to give up and maybe fall to petty crime or something.

It's boring. It's formulaic.
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Not a trope, but:
>show's first and second season are pretty good
>show becomes exponentially worse because the staff pays too much attention to fans
>show is irrevocably ruined
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>>92736170
Second'd. Goes for any form of media really
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>character becomes a self insert that always gets the last word
>girls vs boys episode
>obvious political character that's just a strawman
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>early seasons
>character is kinda dopey, a bit of a fuck up, but by no means stupid
>later seasons
character is a bumbling idiot
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>>92736109
>the radical chick that does things chicks don't normally do
An old example I remember is the bear and princess from Gummie Bears. It was a different time so they acted differently then they would in a modern show but it's made it hard to go back and watch now.
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>>92735044
>character does something and never tells anyone about it
>they never ask about it or bring up anything related to it
>"WHY DID YOU LIE TO US!!!"
My rage can never die
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>>92736288
Name 2 shows and a children's novel that do this.
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>>92735044
>Character does something questionable, but has good reasons behind it.
>The team is angry at him or her.
>Instead of explaining why they did that, the character says: "I did what I had to do."
Seriously, this and the failure to communicate killed my enjoyment of JLA.
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>it's an episode about how long distance relationships never work
We are in the age of cellphones and social media, it's easier than ever now.
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>>92736806
I read a series of children's novvels thta had those three things.
>evil mayor in some plot about the environment
>the main girl degraded to a mary sue over time
>every single book was about a group of brothers versus this group of sisters
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>token male is the buttmonkey

>voice of reason becomes insufferable when gets his/her own episode
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Not really a trope but
>cast has a gender ratio of 4:1
I just want an equal number of boys and girls so I can ship everyone, because hetero shipping is all I'm good for.
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>>92736819
Gravity Falls?
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>it's a "ditch the supernatural and go back to your life of complete mundanity" ending
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>Something bad happened where it looks like character A did it but it was actually character B
>Tries to explain what happened
>Keeps getting interrupted by another character before they can explain
>This repeats for the entire episode until the end where character B gets exposed
Whoever came up with this one is a monster.
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>MC is a normal boy thrown into a wacky world
>we spend more time with the MC and his boring friend then the actual draw of the show
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>>92737279
>character A was already punished for the thing
>character B is known as the one that did it but no one cares now
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>Slapstick-heavy show
>Any female characters are mostly, if not entirely immune to slapstick.
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>>92736170
Let's hope this doesn't happen in Star vs.
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>>92736806
Teen titans comics based off the show and ppg
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>memes unironically referenced in cartoons/tv shows/etc
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>>92738583
DO THE HOMER SHAKE
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Reposting:
>Group are shown to be equally capable.
>Suddenly all but one become incompetent/useless and get captured, and the last person breaks them out
I really, really hate this shit.
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>>92735080
Patrick
Ed
Billy
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>>92736819
But paradoxally enough, if the quantity and ease of information has exploded, quality of it has declined. This is why before you could hold relationships with letters alone and have it meaningfull, while now we can barely keep those geographically close to us because of the ammount of bullshit interactions we have with them.
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>>92736109
>They either have to improve (which would be neat to see a villain actually gradually get better over the course of a series just through learning from his failures without him being the protagonist)
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>>92735844
>I LOST IT! I LOST THE KEY!
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>>92736170
Not a show, but pic related.
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>>92735044
>Character A constantly outshines characters B, C, D, and E
>Episode starts with other Characters telling A he can't do everything by himself.
>Think it's going to be an episode where the other characters prove their worth.
>Character A proves them wrong and does everything himself.
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>>92739029
This. XXI century tech aside, without actual relationship you can only be that much interested in words alone with anyone ebfore you simply run out of things to talk about.
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>>92737279
>Let me expl-
>I've heard enough of your lies! Let's fight!
Half of modern vidya conflicts.
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>>92740202
Examples?
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>>92737920

and this is why i like kitty katswell.

i dont care for porn.
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>Male character makes a mistake/lapse in judgement with minor negative consequences
>Publicly humiliated, badly injured, and/or nearly killed

>Female character makes a mistake/lapse in judgment with major negative consequences
>Utterly unscathed physically and emotionally
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>>92740397

women are protected class.

why do you think frozen was such a hit?
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>>92736170

mlp?


what about shows that got worse in later seasons because executive meddling, like Wakfu or Avengers EMH ?
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>Main Character is in a traumatic accident or is hit on the head
>Amnesia that lasts for an episode
Seriously, think of all the things that could have been accomplished in the time it took for character A to get his/her shit together
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>>92736170
Similar to this, but
>early seasons all have original jokes and are funny
>mid-later season's jokes all revolve around referencing running jokes from the early seasons, and the characters all devolve into more and more exaggerated caricatures of their established traits, most relying on repeating completely unfunny catch phrases
The show most notably guilty of this is Archer
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>>92740848
And family guy
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>>92736819
>We are in the age of cellphones and social media, it's easier than ever now.
t. virgin that's never dated anyone.
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>>92740358
Teen Titans - Robin
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>Hero's about to kill bad guy
>Some idiot stops hero with stupid 'Kill him and you're no better than him' speech
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>>92738606
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>92735844
>the villain is unicronically a better mayor than the mayor
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>>92738583
Charlie Brown.

Y'all EXACTLY know what show I am talking about.
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>>92736170
Steven universe in a nutshell basically.
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>>92737489
Loud House?
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>>92735044
>protagonists get through most of the show without any deaths or emotional damage
>gets to the point where you actually want the protagonists to get fucked over just because their invincibility pisses you off
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>>92741289
Scream Queens?
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>>92740779
Well, agent six( the guy with the sunglasses) isn't exactly the main character, but he serves as a mentor figure and he ends up getting anesthesia and doesn't fully recover from it. There's also Rex who has anesthesia from the beginning of the serie but he doesn't remember anything for a loooong time.
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>>92741289
Is this for individual characters, or protagonists groups as a whole?
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Whoops, forgot the photo
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>>92741314
The worst example of this comes from Part 4 of JJBA, honestly. Every single protagonist is a shit-talking asswipe and nothing bad ever happens to them. It fucking sucks.
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>>92740397
Still upset about Gravity Falls, eh?
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>>92741333
Both.
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>>92741364
I legitimately wanted Kira to win, Araki had to put him at a severe disadvantage by using bullshit as an excuse to bullshit.

Like, seriously, dried up blood not being part of you yet they're somehow still connected to each other so you can use glass shards as homing bullets? The fuck?
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>Character is possessed/mind controlled by the big bad
>Does some terrible things while under control
>Is freed from big bad only to have your "friends" treat them like you ARE the big bad

This happens in a handful of things but Code Lyoko annoyed me the most with this.
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>>92741427
Don't forget Jotaro and Koichi getting holes in them that made Kakyoin's injury look like nothing and not immediately dying as a result
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>bad guy gets death powers
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>>92741397
Alright
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>>92741395
That's hardly the only show that does that
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>>92736819
Tfw just broke up with my gf while she was studying abroad in England...
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>>92736819
>Hey, honey, wanna watch something tonight?
>Babe, my co-SKREEE
Long-distance relationships are a fucking joke.
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>>92736819
Easy to contact them, sure. Not easy to feel loved
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>>92738583
>use memes to appear hip and kewl
>they're all so old that they make stuff like do a barrel roll, this is sparta, or all your bases are belong to us look fresh
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>we need to stop the villain from getting the mcguffin or he'll be unstoppable!

>he gets the mcguffin
>somehow he's stoppable
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>>92741747
I'd like to see more stories where the heroes stop the villain at step 1 of his plan.
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>>92741058
>nobody has any problems with killing mooks in droves
>but when it is time for the captain megahitler von evil to bite dust they all decide that killing is wrong
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>>92737920

*unless they're ugly
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>>92740358
Justice League - Batman
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>>92741908
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>>92741876
I remember a mech game where one of the bosses mocks the protagonist for trying to not kill her when the protagonist has already has killed dozens of mooks in cold blood.
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>>92735044
>outdated youth culture is mentioned by kid
>parent is confused about it
>kid explains it to parent
This is why I watch television
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>> math teacher creates overcomplicated math problem only understandable by Wilbur Whateley or Ivo Shandor.
>> Expects kids to solve batshit insane formula to summon Cenobites or Gozerian Terror Gorillas.

Did writers have terrible histories with math classes?
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>>92735044
This is absolutely painful in comics.

I will forever be irritated by Beast building a goddamn time machine.
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>>92737920
>show full of fetish episodes
>none of the fetishes happen to the female characters
>weirdos on /co/ complain about it
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>>92740046
This was the first thing I thought of when I read anons post.
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>>92741505
>tfw I'm returning home from four years of college and still faithful to my boyfriend -turned fiance two years ago
You just picked a shit girl to enter a relationship with.
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>non lethal swords and guns

jeez, either let people get killed or don't put dangerous weapons in your show
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>>92742674
>Zoro: Don't worry, I used the back of my swords
>NAMI: YOU CAN STILL KILL THEM LIKE THAT
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>>92742885
Yeah, wouldn't it be as deadly as a metal bat?
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>>92741454

That was the entirety of what Justice League Unlimited started on and it's what made me drop it for a long time:

>Superman, you got obviously mind controlled by Darkseid 1 time, which was not only ENTIRELY your fault, but it totally negated the 5000000000 times you risked life and limb and saved the earth and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt you're the hero-ist guy ever!

>BUT FUCK YOU!
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>>92741427

>Araki had to put him at a severe disadvantage by using bullshit as an excuse to bullshit.

Nigger please, Kira had already cashed in what?, like 6 asspulls at that point to not already have lost?

>Somehow has encyclopedic knowledge of all the other Stand users in Morioh and how their abilities work despite learning about Stands literally like, the day before.

>Somehow survives a full power ORA ORAing at the hands of Jotaro at the end of Sheer Heart Attack, and has enough ANYTHING left to even move, let alone get away.

>Somehow gets away despite the ENTIRE gang being literally 5 ft away from him, and teleports across town, has the time to think up the escape plan, reach Cinderella, and carry out the whole switcheroo despite being so fucked up from said ORAORA that he's a shambling corpse.

>Everything about BITE ZA DUSTO, which literally comes out of nowhere as a magical asspull, and doesn't follow its own rules and ability set constantly

I could go on. Kira was just an ascended villain of the week who was no 'better' or cooler or flashier, and had no better of an ability then any of the usual VotW, peple only like him so much because of his swag.
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>characters visit or talk about Spain
>it's just Mexico with bullfighting and flamenco

Read a fucking book!
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>>92735128
Same happened to Johnny Bravo. From goofy and clueless but cool dude who actually had sex in the past to a literal mentally retarded virgin manchild.
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>>92737576
Love Hina in a nutshell.
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>>92735044
>Villain turns over a new leaf
>Tries to be good, maybe even joins the heroes
>Heroes are untrusting and mean to the point that its ooc, even taking advantage of villian's niceness to be extra mean
>Unsurprisingly, having been shunned/ treated like shit, villain goes back to being a villian
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>Character written to be a one-off character
>The fandom spergs out about them so much they eventually become main characters
>half the cast of tiny horse show at this point
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>>92736819
B-but my gf would never cuck me from hundreds of miles away with no way of me finding out r-right guys?
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>>92735044
>Villain is an eve head of a government/corporation
>Future is ruled by corporation/evil government

>>92736030
The one that bothered me was Earl. He went from an asshole trying to do the right thing for Karma sakes, to a good and genuine person wanting to do the right thing and using the list to do it, back to a petty asshole who just did good stuff because of the list.
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>a red herring is more interesting than the actual answer
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>>92746126
Adventure Time is really bad about this. So many characters would have been great as one-offs that they just kept bringing back. Lemongrab in particular comes to mind.
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>>92736170
yfw this happens to Star vs.
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>Action show
>On a kids network
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>character reluctantly makes a mild sacrifice in a situation here a loved one would've otherwise been killed.
>This is supposed to be a sigh that they're selfless, rather than merely a sign that they're not irredeemable human filth.
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>>92736434
Or, the reverse.
>Character withholds extremely significant information when it's obvious that others would want to know
>"Why didn't you tell us?"
>"You didn't ask"
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The Dumb Fat Friend
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>>92746865
Pic related.
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>>92742022
Based Butch Hartman
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>>92738606
In 2025 there will be an entire simpwave episode
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>>92746937
It also happens a lot in that new show with the beast
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>>92746455
>The Greater Good!
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>>92741364
>Josuke's granddad dies
>Fatty dies
>girl they befriend is already dead
>Aya dies
>okuyasu's brother dies
>Koichi and Jotaro almost die
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>Time travel episode

>At the end, the original version of a character is killed/erased and the rest of the story follows their time travel duplicate

Especially if it's never acknowledged
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>>92747140
What's that from?
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>>92747156
It's still definitely lacking in carnage compared to the other parts.

>Main character and his sidekick die
>Main character loses his hand and his sidekick dies
>Kakyoin, Avdol, and Iggy die
>Bruno and Narancia die, Polnareff's soul is stuck inside a turtle
>Everybody except Emporio dies
>Gyro dies
>Not a lot of carnage yet, but we learn that the previous part's protagonist died horrifically
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>>92744551
why do you care so much whether a cartoon character has had sex or not?
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>>92747219
Hot Fuzz.

Sgt. Angle comes up with a theory about a huge town-wide murder conspiracy involving money, property rights, affairs, and all sorts of details that all fit together perfectly. It turns out there is a conspiracy, but the murders are all for reasons like "He was a bad actor, so we improved the town by getting rid of him", or, "His house was ugly, so we burned it down with him inside so we can build a nicer looking one." Its all for the greater good.
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>>92747246
People get pretty fucked up in part 4 the only difference is Josuke can heal people. Not to mention it's a lighter setting compared to the other parts
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>>92747246
I almost forgot all the none at users who were shot by the arrow
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>>92736100

fucking Community holy shit
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>>92740503

what was the executive meddling in Wakfu?
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>last minute before credits
>wedding, ceremony, or God forbid a dance party
>goofy sidekick character who had no interest in romance in the story locks eyes with girl
>girl shares some physical traits with sidekick and/or clearly shares some of his interests
>she bats her eyes
>they dance, hug, kiss, etc.
>all to imply he won't be lonely like the rest of us
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>>92746903
She did bring it up on past loops and they didn't believe her
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>>92735251
>tfw this happens with irl people you know
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>>92746002
I see this a lot but I can't recall any examples for some reason. Got any good ones?
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>>92746002

>and this is to go even further beyond.gif
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>>92735044
>character is introduced as competent or intimidating (like having a tall stature or strong presence)
>all of a sudden the character is reduced to a very weak shell of their former self (getting their powers taken away or made small)
Maybe it's my inner /pol/ talking, but I fucking despise this trope of making characters become pathetic shadows of their former selves, usually to making them short/harmless.
This shit happened with Peridot from SU.
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>>92735044
Double D

>>92735080
Ed
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>>92737920
I loved just how Ed Edd and Eddy DIDN'T do this, which is why it's GOAT
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>>92748212
They really fucked over Starscream in Transformers Prime this way
I know he was never supposed to be successful but this one was actually competent for a little bit
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>Dramatic final scene
>Cheery credits music
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>>92748080
Xiaolin Showdown is probably the best example.
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>>92748493
which character? if you are thinking in jack you are wrong, he was a "i want to be evil but im actually good and i hated it" kind of goofy villian.
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>>92748566
you must be lonelly in saturday, dont worry, you'll be here forever anyways.
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>>92748581
There's an episode where he joins the heroes to be a warrior or something, and they beat him up and make him do their laundry. Mostly a case of heroes being bigger jerks than the villains.
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>One off character of the week comes around wrecking MCs shit because MUH PLOT
>MCs friends/family side with one off because LOL WHY NOT
>MC has to pull some miracle out of his ass just to return everything to normal
>MCs friends/family still look at him in an unfavorable light or don't care what he had to go through

Happens way to much in King of the Hill and Bob's Burgers
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>red shirts and monsters-of-the-week
I absolutely hate it when characters exist just long enough to get some development and are then immediately killed off in the same episode.
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>Obnoxiously cute "quirky" girl who never has anything bad happen to her
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>Protagonist is by far the blandest/least interesting character
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>>92736819
the comments and butthurt this post is getting is amazing.

been talking 24/7 with my gf for over 2 years, time just pass and we get closer and closer.

find a fucking project to do with people you fuckers, it gives you something to look at, share and keep bonding.
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>>92748382
For the most part they did. Sarah was usually the one giving the hurt, the Kankers generally win in the end, and Nazz barely appeared.
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>>92735044
>villain that's really interesting and entertaining but gets little to no screentime
>worse if the protagonist is boring and bland
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>>92748037
>tfw you are that person

I was destined to be unlikeable.
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>>92747423
What was the joke? Something to do with Chang, I bet.
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>>92741505
She got ANGLO'D
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>>92748485
Star vs
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>>92747335
I mean, that one pulled it off.
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>>92748945
pic related is the only reason that I have ever watched ANY episode of captain planet
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>>92738606
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>>92741048
Yeah, he got that a lot, didn't he?

>that episode where Slade sprays Robin with fear gas or some shit
>Robin keeps hallucinating Slade everywhere
>the team keeps telling him that he's wrong
>he insists he's right
>he winds up being right and wins on his own without his friends
>even though several previous episodes said Robin's obsession was a bad thing
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>>92740202
>>92740358
KND operation zero
>numbuh one starts out being a hotshot superstar who doesn't follow orders and always thinks he knows best
>opening quote: "I am kids next door"
>Nigel is supposed to learn in the end that the KND is about the team
> his other team members hardly get any focus at all and the movie focuses on Nigel going solo or with his dad
>his teammates are pathetically useless throughout the entire movie other than the token teamwork scene at the end where all they have to do is ride a bicycle
>end quote: "WE are kids next door!"
"WE" must mean the royal line of numbuh zero and his decedents. only non token help is from sector Z. still love the movie though
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>>92747335
That was a great twist, though. The sheer silliness of their motivations somehow made it more compelling.
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>>92741058
>Kill him anyway
>"I never said I was any better :^)"

This never actually happened, but an anon can dream.
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>>92735044
>>92749466
Speaking of Operation: Zero
>two villains are about to have an epic final fight
>one of them says "fuck it" and leaves
>does nothing for the rest of the show/movie
Even as a kid I was pissed that the writers scrapped the Grandfather vs. Father fight.
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>>92749623
>Father starts out as a badass villain
>winds up becoming a pathetic jobber
>gets pissed off and gets ready to smack down Grandfather
>but then he doesn't and just goes to eat ice cream

WHY THE FUCK REEEEEEEE
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>>92746455
Mandarin.

>Get charismatic actor to play the villain
>Give him a theme unique to the MCU
>Said theme and story perfectly ties him to the first movie as well as gives him a motivation to attack Tony
>Keeps the Mandarin's theme of fanaticism and extremism, but updates it

>Twist happens
>Throw away the character for one 5 minute smugfest
>Use actor who plays his role with the charisma of a block of wood
>Evil White Businessman #3
>Literally Edward Nigma
>Plan is another "kill the president" plot, nothing more
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>>92749623
>>92749726
that infuriated me as a kid. also its another thing that feeds in to the lack of teamwork
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>>92749733

Fuck, this is always going to piss me off. Mandarin was the best part of the entire movie and they just ditched him for a shit twist.
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>>92746505
Lemongrab at least had later episodes where he was really funny like the dungeon one
For AT I think that minor characters like that squirrel who hates Jake and shit are extremely unfunny and they just keep coming back, lame as hell. Though I think the show is mostly alright at restraining themselves from bringing every who cares asshole back and wen they do bring people back they're pretty okay.

I hope they never bring demon cat back, too pure for a second appearance
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>>92746126
Kinda reminds me of pic related, though S5 was already written by the point it aired.
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>Happy-go-lucky character is secretly miserable and only pretending to be happy
Now every cute or funny moment with that character is stained with a hint of sadness.
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>>92748080
Didnt this just literally happen in the flash (CW) ?
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>>92735044
>flashback to middle aged character as a late teen/young adult
>completely different voice
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Alright, this is sort of specific but it seems to happen in any show with teams

>character defects or is turned against the group for whatever reason
>he/she isnt stronger for it or anything, just fighting against the team
>they all struggle to take him/her down
>later on in some other show, the exact same shit happens with another member who is now suddenly hard to take down by the entire group
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>>92750718
Does Terra from Teen Titans count? I don't remember her doing a whole lot different even after she got the suit, aside from the rock monsters.
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>>92735044
>character goes from naive to mildly effeminate to having every appearance be a gay joke
aaaaaah
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>>92747650
I hate this shit.
>>
>can't have protagonist outright kill the villain like he should so the villain just dies because he wasn't really paying attention
>>
>You lied!
>Nooo, I just [Some bullshit about how he teeeechnically didn't lie, just misled by taking things literally or something]
Why not just "Yes, I lied"? The character is already betraying someone's trust, are they really that determined to not be a liar?

I'll make an exception for situations where the character is incapable of lying because of magic or something. In that case, it's okay.
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>Character is an overpowered faggot that you'd come across in vs threads against goku and shit
>is facing a lowly opponent who just has one strong attack
>character could easily win the fight with his super speed/strength/etc but fights at the same pace as opponent
>gets hit and knocked on his/her ass
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>masked character is knocked out and captured by villains who can easily learn his identity
>the issue is simply ignored
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>Character is impossibly bad at lying
>No one realizes he's lying
It was funny the first 20 times or so, but now it's just a tired cliche.
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>>92747335
>Mornin', Angle.
You did good, kid.
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>>92747444

"make the season 2 episodic, so we can air without caring about continuity"
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>>92749030
Its not hard to not be a shit.
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>character needlessly exposes themselves to being shot
batman announces his presence and then just runs away from the bullets a bit too often
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>>92737279
>the bendy episode from fosters
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a bit specific but...
>for some (unknown) reasons, some characters act like complete dicks to someone who is completely innocent or irrelevant to their issues. Either is for humor or drama is depended by the situation
>after few episodes or minutes later, those bastards pretend they did nothing wrong to their victim
>or worse, they FORGOT what they did
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>>92749617
I could see it coming miles away but I'm glad Deadpool did it
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>>92748212
I think the only way this works is when it's to show character progression or to show the character is no longer a threat (examples being Hazamada and the lock guy from part 4 of Jojo)
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>>92741876
>>92741058
Worse
>the fucking cops regularly shoot at the bad guy, clearly with intent to kill
>when a protagonist gets a shot himself suddenly if he kills the bad guy he'll become just like him and invite the darkness into his soul
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>>92748713
>monster does not hesitate to dispatch red shit
>heroes only survive because the monster arbitrarily decides to dick around instead of just trying to outright kill them too
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>>92748212
something similar but just as terrible
>a good characters is introduced or implied to be the one supporting the hero and handle most of the tasks for the hero throughout the series
>main character give zero shit to this character
>then this character reduces to tertiary gag/joke character
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>>92735044
>Villain causes chaos killing multiple people and threatens to kill even more in a few seconds
>"Since were not attacking each other right this second, killing me would make you a cold blooded murderer!"

It wouldn't though
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>>92735044
>the villain looks like they mean serious business
>mocks the hero and their beliefs
>it looks like the story is actually going to be more than good vs. bad
>rather a conflict of ideologies
>LOLWUT FAG WHAT IS THAT SHIT OFC THE BAD GUY IS 100% BAD AND HE LATER FORGETS ABOUT IDEOLOGY AND SIMPLY STARTS DOING EGOITISTICAL COWARDLY SHIT
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>>92735044
>Character works as a spy
>The spy agency betrays him and turns out to be evil all along
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>>92751608

they did that in Season 1 too though
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>>92752027
That sounds infuriating. Did you have a specific example in mind?
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>>92747246
>Bruno and Narancia die
>Does not mention Abbacchio
heartless monster
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>>92752972
that one episode from xiaolin showdown is pretty much this
>people treat Omi likes a shit and vents on him
>then Jack and his allies proceed to kick those bastards' asses and they can only depend on Omi to rescue them
>Omi kicks Jack and his allies asses and save the day
>their actions were never mentioned in any future episode
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>>92735044
>new girl is introduced
>is just used as a love interest/sex toy for the main character
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>>92752971
it was more obvious in s2
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>>92748037
>tfw you're also that person
Sorry, but i've just been hiding those traits, not getting better.
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>>92753311

>villaines falls for the hero and becomes good


how could Blackarachnia fall for Silverbolt?
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>"SHOW is sooo deep!"
>"they're taking GENRE and turning it on its head"
>"how do they get away with this on TV?!?!"
>it's literally generic GENRE except occasionally characters die/there's minor nods to continuity

GoT is fucking awful, holy shit.
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>>92746560
Knock on wood motherfucker. Star Vs. is shaping up to be primo kino.
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>Character is always portrayed in the right no matter how stupid they are acting.
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>>92746180
>g/bf
ftfy cuckboi
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>>92754209

hello Po from KFP tv series
hello Micheangelo from TMNT 2012
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>>92735044
>Character learns about something
>uses knowledge of said thing in future
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>>92747191
I thought this was tropes we hate.
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>>92754558
>character *doesnt use said knowledge in future
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>>92736100

What is all of Archer?
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>>92749623

>mfw "You...big...JERRRRRRRRRRRRK!!!!"
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>>92749617
Mighty Max did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zln_fzkqK-k#t=19m06s
Skip to 19:00.
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>>92752497
What is all 12 seasons of supernatural?
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>Villain kills henchmen for small mistakes or for no real reason
Unless we're about to see a henchman rebel because of this and join the heroes, I'm not interested.

That said, when Vader did it, it was badass.
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>>92736030
>>92735844
>>92735128
>>92735044
Flanderization, the thread
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>early seasons
>character is silly and light-hearted

>later seasons
>character is a retard that does nothing except burst into the scene to scream out some stupid 1-liner or make a dumb joke

>pink miniature horse.jpg
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>Extremely competent main character
>Only ever finds themselves in an inescapable situation when there's a new side character that needs to prove their worth
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>>92742950
Nigger can cut boats in half, swinging that hard it doesnt really matter which side he hits fuckers with.
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>Main character is an idiot
It's getting kind of tiring. I was disappointed when the end of the Rick and Morty pilot had Rick saying Morty is "as dumb as they come", but then pleasantly surprised that the rest of the series shows him to actually be kind of clever.
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>>92749623
>>92749726
That's the point, you know. Father, biggest badass of the show, is so thoroughly and utterly broken. Grandfather already won the fight, long long ago.
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>>92748212
Fucking Valmont, man.
Remember when he was a badass crime-lord and not a joke character?
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>>92747246
>2 middle schoolers die horribly, and a dog
>Completely innocent stylist died
>Innocent man dies, posthumously cucked
>Same man's family is torn apart by the end of the show, and may never find peace again
>MC's granddaddy is unceremoniously killed
>Sidekick's brother killed, father is permanently a mutant freak

Fuck off, Part 4 had more suffering than you realize
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>>92749623
>Missing the point of that battle
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>>92737920
Amy falls off hoverboard and screams
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>>92735044
>Power levels of any kind
The moment you start numerically calculating which of your character is statistically stronger than the other is the moment I lose all interest in your show/book.
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>>92735639
>If you kill me you'll be just like me!
>If you get angry you'll be just like me!
>If you refuse to take my shit you'll be just like me!
>If you don't eat your greens and brush your teeth three times a day you'll be just like me!
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>>92735961
>If you kill him something worse might take its place!!!!
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>>92747650
>>92751123

It appears that the only companies that do this shit is Dreamworks
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>>92735044
>Strong, independent womyn
>lets her friends fight eachother over her affection
>"Its my choice who to marry!"
>still lets them fight eachother

Also
>"Strong female badass"
>Movie/Show/Comic/Manga explicitly goes out of its way to tell you how strong she is
>Sits on the sidelines during the big, important fights because the MC does the actual work
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>>92738606
TOO FAR!
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>>92757542
>The strong female character only gets to fight the one evil female
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>>92746890
Toby isn't dumb.
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>>92736109
>(Like the toally nonbinary character
Ah yes, the thousands and thousands of non-binary characters in mainstream media (Stevonnie is the only character in Steven Universe that counts so don't bring that up)

>radical chick that does things chicks don't normally do
That's been a thing for decades. It's not a Tumblr thing.
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>>92756484
>I'm gonna wait for your father, hopefully he'll be home soon
>Y-Yeah, I'll wait for him too
Kid just wanted his mom safe
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>>92742674
>Watching Wolverine and the X-Men
>Wolverine pops his claws
>He starts kicking people
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>A weapon that's hyped up for a long time is never used
>Some bullshit item that was talked about in passing is the true hero's weapon
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>>92735639
RIP Mamika
https://my.mixtape.moe/woqnfw.webm
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>>92735044
>>92737920
>Shows has moments where male characters are stripped butt naked through dumb slapstick or accidents
>More likely if they are children
>Female characters are entirely IMMUNE to this
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>>92757676
Poor wonder woman.
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>>92753580
This, nothing about walking dead or game of thrones is amazing. Hbo viewers are just getting dumber
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>>92740202
Get fucked I fucking love these. Caring about equal participation is a bitch mentality.
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>>92735961
To be fair to Batman though, it's really the government's fault they don't take care of the Joker.
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>>92754658
>implying it wasnt funny every time Ray got crippled
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>>92740202
I remember Superman in Justice League during the training 2-parter was getting shat on because he said that because of his invincibility, it made the most sense for him to solo everything.
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>Character goes back in time
>their ancestors look exactly the same as their parents
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>>92758574
>Flashback of character's ancestor
>They look exactly the same but with period clothing
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"If you kill him you'll be just like him!"

>Comparing hero to a mass murdering psychopath because hero hypothetically kills said psychopath to stop more innocent from dying.
Hero cant just simply be a monster every now and then to fuck other monsters and go back to being good.
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>>92735044
It's called flanderization
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>>92735044
>Lisa Simpson know it-alls
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>>92737279
FUCKING THIS!!!!

I'm not kidding when I say there is not a single trope that probably pisses me off MORE than this one.
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>>92741747
this 1000 times

especially bad when
>getting sad mcguffin is a plot for whole season
>he is stopped by power of love
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>>92755473
>boats in half
Zoro is way past that. Dude's slicing up mountains.
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>>92739260
I watch Star solely for based Ludo.
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>>92757379

I remember Phil kissing Aphrodite at the end of Hercules
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>>92737279
being the victim in this situation numerous times, I really can't find any good things from this cliche.
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>>92752838
similar
>villain has really good argument for his cause
>protagonist has much weaker argument
>ends it by something like "BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT AND SO I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT"
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>>92741364
>Every single protagonist is a shit-talking asswipe

That literally describes only Rohan. The rest of the cast was pretty cool most of the time unless Josuke was pulling a scam or Okuyasu was angry.

>>92741454
William was pretty dumb, though. He ran straight into danger when Jeremie told him not to, which is what got him possessed in the first place.
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>>92743774
>putting a hero on the pedestal of a god
>hero shows weakness
>immediately turn on them

Makes sense, but I still hate it. And it's really dumb that Hamilton began associating with actual criminals in spite of that, let alone people who were intentionally goading the Justice League into giving them an excuse to kill them.
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>>92754658
>have season in a completely new setting
>characters all have different roles and allegiances
>ends up repeating the same plot we already saw (a few times)
>characters fall into their regular slots anyway
oh woah barry is now cyborg and wants to kill everyone...
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>>92759092
Qilby did nothing wrong
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>>92758820
I've seen sitcoms that pile whole seasons of this shit, episode after episode
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>>92735044
The trope of where a wannabe villain tries to overthrow his boss and fails horribly.

Does it ever work out satisfyingly
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>>92759221
I believe starscream managed to hold onto power for some extended amounts of time.

Don't recall the particulars, but maybe T:Animated S1 ?
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>>92758166
I see there was at least one naked girl gag in cartoons way back but for the life of me I can't think of any.

I mean, unless it was something that got EVERYONE naked, like walking into a nudist colony.
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>>92735080
Fucking Cosmo. Early Cosmo was a treasure.
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one trope I bet a lot of you find it relatable
>when character x does something, he/she is automatically right all because he/she is x character, and thats the only explanation people need
>when character y does something. People give he or she bad look. The thing is that character y does not offend anyone in any shapes or forms, nor the said character causes any troubles in the past.
>Why character get all those hates? All because he/she is character y, no other explanations.
seriously, if writer wants to invokes drama. Don't pull this one out for Christ's sake.
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>villain has a physical trait they hate
>any remark or object that barely even vaguely draws attention to said trait makes the villain enter a fit of rage
>villain orders the death/destruction of the person or thing responsible even if it was a poor choice of words.
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>Little sister of the MC is a genius
>Constantly fucks over the MC and other characters for their own personal gain or just for shits and giggles.
>Never gets any comeuppance and the MC's parents take her side at all times.
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>>92759316
The first trope is forgivable if there comes a time when they're wrong or misunderstood the situation and gives a moment for growth for the character.
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>>92759316
>character voiced by show's creator
>his opinions are never wrong
>he does a philosophical rant almost every episode
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>>92736819
>>92741007
>>92741505
>>92741544
>>92741675
>Know multiple people who married someone they met online
>All these anons getting mad because their long distance relationship didn't work for them
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>character A constantly gets bullied by character B

>one episode character B gets bullied by a bigger bully

>character B breaks down and goes into a depressive/manic state and stops bullying character A

>character A feels sorry for character B and tries to help them over come the bigger bully

>character A succeeds and character B goes back to bullying character A like nothing ever happened
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>>92745762
Any and every tsundere character.
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>new team of """superheroes""" who suspiciously looks like a bunch of moustache twirling villains come into town
>they mysteriously always arrive before the established team of superheroes when something happen
>whole town start to treat the team that saved their life daily like shit and the new team is treated way better than the old one ever was despite not having done half of what they did
>when the team try to say that the new team isn't what they seems to be people act like they are just jealous
>but the new team was in fact vilains who wanted to discredit the previous team and caused themself the accident to be the scene.

Bonus point if the new team act like passive agressive bitch when they are with the old team and nobody find that suspicious.
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>>92742885
In fairness Zoro doesn't seem to give a shit if he kills bigwigs and only uses the blunt edge on mooks he doesn't have any real beef against. He just suffers from living in a world where you can only die in flashbacks unless you dying is in Blackbeard's plan.

Seeiously though, fuck you Oda and your bullshit no killing rule. I don't care if the fan sites autistically suck your dick, it's bad storytelling to have no one ever die
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>female character gets kidnapped by the worse possible kinds of villains for days
>doesn't get raped
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>>92760276
The lack of torture or unmasking pisses me off even more.
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>>92758486
T H I S

its shouldnt be batmans responsibility to ice him considering he would go from vigilante who assaults criminals into full blown murderous terrorist

batmans brought the fucker in countless times and instead of giving the cunt the death penalty they just push him back off to arkham to plan out his scheme for next week when he breaks out
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>intelligent guy starts explaining something
>WOAH IN ENGLISH, DOC
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>>92742674
Wolverine was such a goddamn jabroni for most of X Men TAS because of this bullshit and it's just so much worse if it's the supposed badass of the group who gets this treatment.
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>>92736170
Adventure Time in a nutshell
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>>92746965
And an episode based on oneyplays jokes by 2035
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>>92735044
>character A is incompetent in some way and aims to improve themselves for completely logical and sound reasons
>they either become an awful person because of it or all the other characters tell them to go back to "being themselves" or some gay shit or they force character A to change back to the status quo for their own selfish reasons regardless of how much better character A is due to their changes or how much success character A is enjoying because of their changes

Whoever came up with this shit deserves to burn in hell.
>>
>Random animal repeatedly goes after the same character throughout the episode
It works only in some instances like the campfire episode
>>
>Show targeted for young girls
>Males are ALWAYS bumbling idiots or evil and smart
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>>92740202
Sounds based. I'm okay with sacrificing good morals for the sake of subverting cliches.
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>>92735044
> THE CHOSEN ONE

Fuck you.
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>>92759375
MEGAN
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>"skilled" character constantly ends up in situations where they were going to fucking die if not for somebody saving them at the last second
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>>92759214
what WORSe is I dont think ANY show has ever subverted said trope where either A) the characters LISTENED to the victim of fraud the FIRST goddamn time or B) the person shouted and told everyone to shut the fuck up and let them explain themselves...its infuriating.
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>>92759316
goddamn Gravity Falls did this BAD by season 2 and its end.
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>>92759364
fuck you Ratigan.

like everything about you is great, but seriously get over yourself...you fucking rat.
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>>92760821
or worse where if thye just had fucking moderated how MUCH they changed it would be fantastic for everyone... but fuck that, you changed once and went overboard so obviously the entire CONCEPT just sucks.
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>>92746002
>The Penguin tries to reform when he realizes nobody cares about him enough to notice when he's done with his time in prison, and attempts to legitimately re-enter high society
>Batman stalks him, talks him down, and eventually Oswald does relapse when his gf was only dating him as a gag and he had no other motivation to stay on the straight-and-narrow
>Riddler reforms, and retools his toyetic motif to sell puzzles and start making an honest living again by doing something he loves
>Batman's breathing down his neck the whole time until he triggers his suppressed OCD into relapsing
>Harley "attempts" to reform, and fucks up absolutely everything over a slight misunderstanding
>Bats buys her that cute outfit she had her eye on, and ends up supportive of her efforts by the end
>the same shit as the former two eventually happens with Mr. Freeze in Batman Beyond, when his ONLY remaining motivation for being "evil" was cured and he was actively trying to make amends with his victims
Fucking Dini, that waifufag. Harley wasn't even "insane" to begin with, she was just an uninhibited screwball coasting off The Joker's real insanity, and took advantage of Arkham's low bar entrance qualifications for evading an ACTUAL prison sentence.
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>>92762456
I think Mr. Freeze's attempt to reform was the saddest of the bunch. Even Terry was wondering just what the fuck was up with Bruce when he told him to keep watching him.
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>>92738606
They... they didn't actual do that, right?
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>>92762572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrn-7zjmYw
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>"The power was inside you all along"
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>>92735044
>bad flanderization ie Homer, Patrick
>le hyperactive quirky sidekick
>muh sudden grimdark turn (moral orel)
>constant use of catchphrases
>status quo is god
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>>92757844
>Stevonnie is the only character in Steven Universe that counts
Stevonnie is a literal fusion between two children. No term can be used to describe it.
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>>92748274
This example of flanderisation is actually positive. The show benefited from the over exaggeration of the characters.
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>>92758166
This only applies to American works.
Try European or even the occasional Japanese work.
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>>92762636
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>>92759476
Family Guy basically.
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>>92760234
>What is Ace?
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>>92741172
It's really AT than SU.
SU's problems are different.
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>>92762747
No they're the same.
Both of them stem from the fact that they can't choose between having coherent plot or being episodic. So they do neither properly.
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>Introduce badass character covered head to toe in armor
>"Wow, he sure is tough!"
>"I wonder who he is?"
>"What a macho manly man that man is!"
>Takes off helmet
>IT'S A GURL!?
So predictable.
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>character dies
>everyone cries
>turns out they were just knocked out
>HAHAHA WE THOUGHT WE LOST YOU *sniff*
>mfw
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>>92762839
I wish that opposite would happen

>A girl appears
>takes her clothes off
>turns out its badass covered head to toe in armor.
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>show has people with superpowers
>in order for the show to be interesting over a long time, powers become exaggerated
>people are slicing up mountains left and right
>the writer has to keep doing this or else fans will throw hissy fits
>it comes to the point were the fights are indistinguishable from dragonball
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>>92763088
when the shit did this happen in a western cartoon?
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>>92735044
>Character is crotch attacked
>No reaction because character is female.
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>>92763107
Take ed edd eddy for example
Ed was a normal kid and in season 3/4 he lifts fucking houses and shit.
Adventure time when Finn dipped his head into lava and survived.
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>>92763117
extra puffy vulva
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>>92763117
I pity the chick that gets clit kicked.
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>>92763142
ehhh....
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>villain packs a punch and is a threat to the cast/everything
>once he gets redeemed/joins the main cast he becomes irrelevant
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>>92754558
>>92754607
>character learns a useful power
>it's never mentioned or used ever again
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>>92758486
>>92760601
Batman has intervened multiple times to intentionally save the Joker's life
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>>92741358
Now theres a show I wish they gave a proper conclusion too.
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>show about a kid with superpowers
>it takes a really long time for them to discover their full potential
Why the fuck can't there be one show where the super powered kid already knows their abilities?
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>>92762636
>Friendship was the true answer.
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>>92757542
>"Strong female badass"
>Movie/Show/Comic/Manga explicitly goes out of its way to tell you how strong she is
>Sits on the sidelines during the big, important fights because the MC does the actual work

Wendy?
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>movie or show with "strong female character"
>the show keeps hammering the audience over the head with the fact that she's a female and can take care of herself
>literally 'girl power'
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>Multiple characters either cause trouble or are together when one causes trouble.
>The biggest culprit gets off scot free.
>Meanwhile the rest suffer despite minimal responsibility or none at all.
Really love EENE's Boo Haw Haw, but holy fuck was that end infuriating.
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>>92738777
>why shonen is shit
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>>92763484
that new Pirates of the Caribbean really irked me with this one

very unsubtle, even explicit a number of times, "Luckily I'm a Woman"
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>>92761012
>show aimed at girls
>one or no female characters
Ok, this is anime but it still pisses me off.
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>>92759476
JG Quin-I mean, Mordecai
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>>92735044
>>92735080
Flanderization, my friends.
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>>92748212
Her introduction involved her fleeing just because of seeing a kiddy sticker
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>>92762132
Rats are smarter and more emphatic than mice.

Mice are little shits, fuck all the pro-mice propaganda in popular culture.

And why the hell do we villainize the cat when the entire reason we brought them into our dwellings was to protect us and our food against said vermin?
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>>92764780
its Jerry's fault we see Mice as better.
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>>92746865
I gave up on Little Witch Academia TV.
>Boy, that Croix lady sure is a bitch and has nearly MURDERED people
>But I won't tell anyone or at least warn Akko and friends because I guess that'd just be too awkward

I loved the shorts, but the show lost the Yay.
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>>92764915
Japan is stupid

"If you are getting molested on the train don't cry for help, because you would be making a scene and inconveniencing other passengers"
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>>92764812
Don't lie. You know that after you've seen enough of Tom loosing to Jerry that you go to root for Tom.
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>>92764780
>rats are vilified despite being nicer animals with bigger balls
>cats are vilified for just doing what they domesticate themselves to do
>mice are totally innocent and always portrayed as persecuted underdog characters
Are mice the ultimate /co/ kikes?
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>>92758499
Which did make sense honestly. He could take a tomahawk missile to the chest, Hawkgirl can't even with her mace of deus ex machina. Let him play human shield so you can yell "HAAAAAAAA" and swing your mace.
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>>92757379
I remember at the end of Hotel Transylvania the invisible man got with some invisible woman, though.
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>>92764812
If anything, tom and jerry made me like cats.
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>Character clearly has no redeemable qualities
>Women looks past character's bad or cringe inducing flaws/ interests and falls in love anyway.
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>>92741876
>Assassin's Creed 2
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>>92762991
Nice
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>>92765249
same, even though that's just art imitating life
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>>92740202
There's nothing wrong with these ones.
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>>92735251
Ice King?
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>>92736819
Anon.. I.. Um
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>man beating up woman can't be a good thing in the narrative of the story
Now, now, before you gang on me, while this might be very specific, it causes a lot of problems.
>team fight? female enemies always taken care of by the female members of the team. Always.
>solo female villain? actually manipulated/wronged and is "semi redeemed"
>female vs male? well, the hero is always careful and competent, but let's have his ass handed to him by someone clearly weaker, because he forgot how to fight
etc, etc
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>female main character
>has literally no character traits other than "I'M TOUGH AND I LIKE TO PUNCH THINGS I HATE DOLLS AND GIRL STUFF"
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>>92765473
thanks.
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>MC collects items from villains as trophies
>shown in background and acknowledged in continuity
>never uses them even after 7 seasons
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>>92765913
This only happens because the writers pussy out on creating an actual terrible woman.
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>>92740277
Knuckles, every fucking time.
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>"I CAN'T HIT A WOMAN"
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>one dimensional bitch character who is somehow popular because money from daddy.

>video games parody
is of fucking arcade games from the 80s or at best NES era....where the FUCK is the N64 and PS1 era parodies DAMMIT
I want to see a carton do a collect a thon parody I dont think thats ever been done.
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>>92741314
Red Devils did nothing wrong
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>strong female character
>actually, strong means being a horrible bitch that does things which if male characters did, they'd be booed into hell and back

There's a million of those. And they're usually played for comedy, like in a WW/Bat comic
>and if you miss our dinner again, Alfred won't be able to patch you up

Imagine supes or another guy going jokingly
>and if you miss dinner again, I might drop you when I fly you over town
or some shit.

In the same vibe, a woman beating up a guy for saying something, or looking at her in a lewd way or some shit.
Seriously, female characters get away with way too many disproportionate reactions.
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>>92762591
>
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>MC(s) is/are hyperactive fucks who annoy everyone who isn't as retarded as them
>are always in the "right" when dealing with a more cynical and somewhat more realistic character
>despite if MC existed in real life they'd get the shit beaten out of them by EVRYONE.
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>>92766020
>Parody happens to be a Mario reskin with the show's characters as the protagonists.
>They proceed to make an extremely overused Mario Bloopers Joke.
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>>92735044
main character appearing to have died following the final boss battle of the movie but then revealed to be alive

that's not even tragic anymore, you know he or she is still alive 99.9% of the time, pic related is an exception
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>>92766043
>male villain in a female-lead show/movie/whatever
>pathetic, unthreatening and laughable, even despite their acts and/or powers
I can let it slide in comedic stuff like Kim Possible, but when it happens in more serious works it's just annoying. God forbid female heroes have to deal with someone as menacing as UtRH Joker or Lex Luthor for instance.
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>>92766006
>that episode of Yu Yu Hakusho where they fight a woman
>female villain shows up
>Kuwabara can't fight her because she's a woman
>Yusuke beats the shit out of her and doesn't give a fuck

Yusuke is based. Turned out to be a guy in drag or a transsexual, though. I wonder how mad Tumblr got at that.
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>>92766164
has this trope ever been done but with a female villain?
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>>92746965
That wouldn't be a bad idea desu
But zombie simpsons would do it terribly.
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>character is a scientist
>as the show progresses, he/she turns into a super-genius that can solve Schrodinger equations using his/her mind
>turns into a Flat Earth Atheist
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>>92766198
Mad for all the wrong reasons.
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>>92766198
>Yusuke beats the shit out of her and doesn't give a fuck
He did but he groped her to make sure she had a dick first
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>>92741172
SU doesn't give a shit about its fans. Nothing in the show is influenced by the fandom.
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>>92765923
America Chavez?
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>>92751343

The fucking rat that almost kills Jotaro in part 4
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>>92766164
and when there is a decent villain, he gets a karmic "learn your lesson/suffer for your actions" punishment or some shit. The male hero tends to suck it up, incapaciate, hand over to the police and move on, but noooooooo, princess can't just have that, her villain needs to suffer and learn his place.
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>>92736819
My parents met on an mmo,so I know this anti-LDR is a meme. Though some people think I must be really young if my parents met that way but I'm 19,it was just an older mmo.

But LDRs certainly have difficulties.
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>>92766359
>they think I must be really young
>but I'm 19
19 is really young
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>>92746126
similar notes...
>character (x, y, z) is only a popular tertiary character
>but the character's fanbase demands the writer to let the said character hijacks other characters' spotlights and developments

the worst part is that the said character replaces some main casts, or the main characters that are linked to the lores/stories.
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>>92766359
>Though some people think I must be really young if my parents met that way but I'm 19
You goddamned ZYGOTE!

I'm 30 years old this month.
Only plus is that people think I'm still in my early 20's in-person.
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>representation character is unbearable, and clearly just there for points, but the fandom loves them
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>>92736109
>improve
The Angles from Evangelion, dude.
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>>92766215
>decide to look it up on Tumblr
>the only thing I can find is one person talking to their trans friend about how that scene would offend them
>the trans person wasn't offended and BTFO of them for assuming

Based.
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>>92766434
>>92766468
I know I'm young but I meant people think I'm a 12 year kid.
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>>92766591
The world isn't as much of a fucked up far-left and far-right shithole I thought it was.
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>>92766656
Don't believe them, time flies at that age. I remember being your age just yesterday and now I'm 25.

Time passes slower now, because I'm very aware of anything happening around me, because I'm in constant stress/fear/panic/ohmygodwhatwillIdowithmylife mode.
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>>92766687
If anything time passes by faster now, because you can feel each second being sucked into the void as you march one step closer to the grave
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>>92746865
this so much
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>>92766849
Nah, I'm very aware of each second, that makes it pass slower for me.
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>>92746865
I like it when it's a villain fucking with people.
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>>92741364
>Who is Shigechi
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>the "It's A Wonderful Life" trope
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>Character is shown to be a great fighter and can think outside the box, has a good situational awarness.
>Has the advantage in a fight but doesn't capitalize on it only because the writers want a longer fight scene.
>Bonus points when there is a time limit, and they are just wasting it by not finishing the fight quickly.
If the character has some kind of code of honor, isn't taking the fight seriously or there is some other reason, I can understand. But otherwise it's just annoying seeing all the opportunities to win they are missing.
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>>92763233
JUMP GOOD
>Jack could canonically jump hundreds of feet in the air with perfect control
>nope, better go up this mountain/building/whale the long, dangerous way
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>Protagonist has always been outclassed by the antagonist
>They beat the antagonist anyways because muh friendship
>The antagonist was only a product of their upbringing and the protagonist had a hand in their creation
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>>92749105
I'm guessing he means the paintball episodes. The first time in season one it was one, then they did another one in season two and it was alright, then in season three they didn't do one and mocked the idea with a flashback, then Dan Harmon got fired and they did another one in season four. Didn't even bother with that season.
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>>92767277
Worst part is that there were episodes where the writers remembered it.
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>>92766687
How funny, it happened in reverse for me.

In my youth time felt slower, now I'm on so much stress over what do to with my life now that college is over that I can barely believe it's nearly half a year, January felt like yesterday.
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>>92749617
>I-if you kill me you'll be just as bad as me!
>Oh. You're right.
>BANG
not /co/ but advance wars days of ruin
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>the big bad is so stupidly OP, they could easily outclass the protags physically, intellectually, or through sheer volume of resources alone
>when they inevitably lose the conclusion is at least somewhat acceptable - dumb luck at worst, and maybe some forgivable jobbing on their behalf
>and then, in every subsequent appearance, they're easily btfo and regress into "joke character" status permanently
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>>92769603

>bad guy has a nearly unbeatable plan that only fails due to a random freak occurrence or the intervention of a non-regular character, or some other temporary state of affairs that they couldn't have seen coming
>never tries that same plan again even though it would without a doubt work on an average day
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>>92741747
>Heroes get the mcguffin first
>It's the only thing the bad guy needs to complete their plan
>let's not bury it or throw it in the ocean so they can never find it
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>>92769874

fuck off Frodo, it's been explained why that wouldn't work
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>>92747156
>>92747246
Let's not forget the mass graves filled with all the dogs that die on that show
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>>92747273
Because he used to be more of a failure try hard than desperate.
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>>92769915
was not thinking of LoTR when I wrote that, it's different when the McGuffin is partially sentient
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>Character is fun in small doses
>Creators catch on
>Charactet now suddenly dominates the show, becoming unbearable

Everytime. Bonus points if its a comic relief character they suddenly try to give serious moments to.
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>>92737920
>Show where everyone is stupid
>Female is the smartest, dry and sarcastic, a badass, and always rolls her eyes at the dumb men.
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>>92738583
>Show references the fanbase
>Show refeences the tumblr fanbase
>Show starts to change to meet the demands of the tumblr fan base
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>Antagonist did nothing wrong aside from opposing the protagonists, but everyone treats them like they're literally Hitler
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>New character turns up
>Character is jealous as new guy does eveything he does but better
>Sabotages new guy
>Side characters find out, make him feel bad
>Character alologises to new guy and helps him out of the trouble he got him in
>New guy forgives him and is never seen again
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>the entire cast basically worships a dead character who isnt even that great
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>>92770319

jesus?
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>>92770337
*tips fedora*
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>Two guys fight over a girl
>They compete to win her affection
>In the end she chooses neither and they make up

I loved when they played with it in FoTC
>I choose Brett
>I-I'm Jemaine, thats Brett
>I know
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>>92741364
Come on, you shouldve seen this coming when the mc had healing powers. Its not like Araki pulls his punches with JJ, but people would shit all over it if he didnt use the healing powers properly
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>>92741747
>We have to stop them getting the macguffin
>Heros find it first, defeating bad guys at every turn
>When they finally get to the prize the villains are already there
>"Lol we followed you"

Every. Time.
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>>92757844
>Ah yes, the thousands and thousands of non-binary characters in mainstream media
Nigga where?
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>>92764915
How is Little Witch Academia anyway? The art style looks good and i haven't heard of any of that fetish bait shit most anime is crammed with, which is always a plus.
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>>92747650
Jesus, NONVIRGINS REEEEE
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>>92742885
Remember when Zoro got to the Fishermans base before everyone else and just slaughtered his entire crew?
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>>92751123
Why can't they be fat austitic weebs like us?
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>>92770846
It's pretty good, Diana a shit
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>>92747246
Yeah, its almost as if part 4 is a slice of life and is thematically appropriate
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>>92736109
>>92757844
>implying "nonbinary" is a legitimate thing
kek
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>enemy completely outclasses hero
>hero gets one time power up and wins
>enemy turns into minor annoyance from then on
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>>92759375
m e g a n
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>>92753590
ftfy starcuckfag
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>>92752983
Fucking spoil that shit faggot, some people are waiting for the anime goddamn
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>>92769976
Just like /co/?
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>>92770799
Sarcasm, motherfucker, do you speak it!
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>>92753320
S1 basically
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>>92753311
You and tumblr are going to have the great time knowing each other
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>>92769603
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>>92750640
>flashback to middle aged character as a late teen/young adult
>same voice as if it never change
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>>92737920
exhibit F in the case for Futurama being the best show ever
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>>92750640
>>92771339

>Flashback to Timmy's dad
>"the other kids like to call me 'dad' for some reason"
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>>92758346
why do you want most of the cast to be useless?
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>>92771218
>JUST A JOKE
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>>92742424
English and Math departments, teachers, students, etc. are always at odds with each other, it's a part of the humanities vs. science & engineering thing
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>>92743884
didn't his dad inform him of their abilities? jotaro was also weakened which probably explains why he survived. btd wasn't really all that inconsistent either.
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>>92759316
clay did nothing wrong[spoiled]
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>>92760276
>muh fetish
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>>92742424
>>92771617
Academiafag here. Humanities are just butthurt that they're bad at math.
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>>92762849
Fuck the early episodes of adventure time, they did it twice
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>>92764991
Where?
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>>92769874
>good guys in the past had the macguffin
>they opted to bury it
>present-day bad guy finds it and digs it up
>present-day good guys eventually get a hold of it
>they re-bury it, in a new place, possibly after splitting it into pieces
>no one throws it in the ocean
>NO EVER JUST THROWS IT IN THE FUCKING OCEAN
I mean seriously how the fuck is anyone going to find it on the abyssal plain?
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>>92765923
Rare. Only on movies not cartoons.
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>>92771821
Better yet, why don't they just smash it with a hammer?
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>>92762067
I also dislike Batman, anon
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>>92747335
that was A) for the humor of it and B) a veiled attack on tradition and local prejudice in general and "good-hearted sleepy English villages" in particular
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>>92750640
>Flash back to middle aged character as a child
>Exact same voice but speaking at a slightly pitch
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>>92748834
How else are the viewers going to self-insert?
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>>92736170
Artists should produce their work in a vacuum for exactly this reason. If I ever get a show I'm cutting myself off from all social media and informing my bosses to never mention how a the show is being received by audiences, only whether or not they want more episodes.
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>>92755257
>What is all 12 seasons of supernatural?

EVERY TIME THEY GET THROWN INTO A WALL TAKE A SHOT
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>>92747156
>minor characters die so that counts apparently
>listing almost dying as a noteworthy event as if every action show in existence doesn't have a protagonist almost die at one point
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>>92771821
>throw it in the ocean
>it washes up on some beach where anyone can find it
nice job fucko
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>>92765923
Does Yang count?
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>>92770319

I'm almost positive Saints Row 3 isn't a cartoon.
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>>92735044
>who is sandy cheeks?
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>>92735044
>character suddenly gains busted-ass, god-tier powers out of the blue
>explanation for this is half-assed at best and sixteenth-assed usually
YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS!!!!!!!![spoilers]
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>>92769811
All of my god damn hate

would be interesting if a villain's plan was stopped due to sheer luck on the second episode of the season, and then during the last episode of said season it's revealed that everything else he did was just a distraction so he could resurrect the original plan, minus the tiny weakness it had.
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>>92762657
>moral oral
nigga the very first episode that aired was the Christmas special where the whole family fell apart. It was always dark.
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>scientist character
>cast stumbles upon a potentially dangerous lifeform/entity
>or worse, a lifeform that is CONFIRMED to be dangerous and unstable
>scientist commands they bring it on board so he/she can study it
>SHTF
>it's all the scientist's fault
>mfw
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>When a female character wheres a dress normally only to suddenly switch to pants for avoiding an up skirt shot later on in the ep.
>never ever change clothes for any other reason.
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>>92770319
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>>92772356
>that monkey episode killed a part of my inner child.
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>>92762636
I hate this shit so fucking much
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>it's a Planet of the Apes trope
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>>92766020
>the game parody is more up to date
>the game is incredibly violent
it's great when that happens and no one cares though
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>>92769811
eh, the good guys would be more prepared, there'd be no element of surprise
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>>92760624

>intelligent guy starts speaking gibberish.
>IN ENGLISH PLEASE!
>The very simple thing that has a very common and simplified word/or nick name that everyone would get if I said it the first time is broke!

I hang out with enginers, they never talk like this ever.
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>>92770337
>>92770344
>>
>The redeemable villains are all humanoid or have human forms and attractive while the totally evil ones are monstrous
>>
>Story introduces big threatening villain, but fleshes them out a lot, shows their not so bad deep down and maybe morality isn't all black and white
>as soon as the redemption starts taking place another really flat, totally evil villain appears for the heroes to beat up and save the day.


>Some noble villain is all about "honour"
>Get's put next to a more scummy villain to make them look better by comparison
>Noble villain never actually does anything ethical anyway
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>>92774100
Hey, the noble villain doesn't LIKE to slaughter entire villages
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>>92772395
>YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS!!!!!!!!
>Implying that was out of the blue

Yeah it's not like she spent the last two episodes as a shapeshifting monster or anything. Nah.
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>Mildly stupid but lovable characters that become insanely stupid assholes.
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>>92738606
>Cringe: the animated series (formerly The Simpsons)
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>>92772132
unless it floats or we're talking geological time scales, that won't happen
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>>92735044
>Character who is a powerful early-show antagonist
>First appearance involves taking down the entire goodguy team through intelligence
>Later joins the good guys
>Suddenly becomes just as incapable as they are
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>>92773648
>"Please pass me the *extremely long-winded description of what a tool does in the most complex wording possible*"
>"The what?"
>*sigh* *eyeroll* "The *common tool*"
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>>92775123
Alternatively
>Character gives easy-to-follow explanation of something
>Other character asks for it in english or still doesn't get it
>First character has to draw a diagram as though the other is a child
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>>92760624
>>92773648
>>92775123
I can't tell if it's better or worse when the non-scientist is dumb.
>"We just need to disrupt the gyroscope."
>"haha whats that in english dude"
>"Make the spinny thing not spinny."
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> So-called kid genius character makes device to do thing
>Someone asks them how it works
>'genius' says something like "It uses molecular kinetic energy to create thermal radiation that alters chemical properties"
bitch please you're just using those words to try and sound smart for re-inventing THE FREAKING OVEN
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>>92736170
It's okay, you can say Steven Universe
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>>92764991
>implying /japan/ is one person
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>>92775123
>"pass me the ultrahammer"
>"here you go"
>people speculate for decades on what an ultrahammer is
>they speculate on what it does
>they speculate if the character actually said "ultrahammer" or "underhammer" or possibly just "other hammer"
>tfw you think it was "other hammer" and people are making a mountain out of a molehill
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>>92762591
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>female character x who is normally friends with male character y strong arms or outright bullies/manipulates male character y into doing something for them
>portrayed as something that's completely okay
I see this in a lot of kids shows
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>>92762636
>The Matrix
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>>92775327

name 53 times this happened
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>>92772952
what's wrong there?
>>
>THE STATUS QUO IS GOD!
>>
>>92735073
wat
>>
>Protagonist uses the one combat trick they were shown earlier to gain an upper hand in the final battle
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>>92771899
because theres just more in a cave
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>>92774578
Shapeshifting monster = | = Having all of Aku's powers and using them at the same level as him
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>>92764271
Holy fucking shit this that bitch was annoying
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>it's a "character gets blamed for something that isn't their fault" episode
it's a "timid character gets put in a position of authority and goes power-crazy" episode
>it's a "boys vs girls and suddenly all the boys are completely sexist and incompetent so the girls can show them up" episode
>it's a "character is in a situation that would be easily resolved if he would just ask for help, but his pride won't allow it, so he comes up with a web of increasingly elaborate lies while he struggles to resolve the situation" episode
I think we can all agree these are the worst four offenders, and any writer who pitches one of these episodes should be fired on the spot.
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>>92737119
Right?? I'm not really focused on the shipping aspects of it but I totally agree that it's super annoying when there's a group/team/etc of 4+ characters and all of them are male except for like one girl being included. It's like "See?? It's diverse if we make a single female character!!" The sad thing is is that there's many examples of this.
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>>92737489
dat ass
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>>92778289
This is actually the reason the lady on the team is so often the one reasonable "perfect" one. There's only one woman, so suddenly they have to represent all women and if anything bad happens to them it reflects badly. This can be easily solved by just having a second, different woman.
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>>92778369
That's true as well! The fact that this single female character must represent an entire gender is frustrating. Another thing that bothers me is when this exclusive lady character is seen as wittier than the rest of the team just because she's the only one that stands out. Or it's the independent, "edgy" trope like "Don't mess with her. She's as tough as nails and can kick your butt just because she's around men 24/7. Good luck trying to win her heart." It's one thing to have a strong female character. It's another thing if that strength is only derived from the fact that she's the odd one out standing next to her male companions. Also, pink. It's a fine color but why must the girl (in cartoons especially) always have some sort of pink thing??
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>>92778675
>No offence
>>
>Utterly random musical numbers at the end of/during a show that is absolutely not a musical

I'll admit sometimes it's hilarious and pretty entertaining but at the end of the day I'm thinking "....Was that really necessary?"
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>>92741289
>First season of show paints team out to be invincible and unstoppable force with no loss whatsoever
>Second season starts and right off they get their shit kicked in by a new enemy and someone on the team fucking dies
>majority of second season revolves around team struggling with new enemy until some deus ex machina gives them a way to even stand a chance and revive dead friend for an epic showdown
Please tell me there's a show/comic that does this
>>
>Character is dead but not really
>>
>Male character says/does something dumb or typical of their personality
>Female character roll eyes
>"Ugh...men."
Or
>Female character(s) hits male antagonist in the crotch to defeat/weaken him
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>>92772319
Is Gat really that popular or is it just creators shilling him?
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>Smart, charismatic and sarcastic funny early season 1.
>Team decides that's to hard to write so they turn him into an air head that's funny sometimes with a few actually good jokes here and there.
>Few good people leave, creativity plummets, Cosmo is now the classic borderline retard with the tradition breaking smart leading wife.
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>>92779803
>>Smart, charismatic and sarcastic funny early season 1.

it's been so long I honestly don't even remember this
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>>92779803
Borderline retard? He's literally retarded now.
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>"leader" character
>only takes a role of authority in like three episodes the entire series.
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>>92763233
Fucking Kakyoin with Hierophant Green
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>>92779753
There was a huge uproar when he died in the third game.
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>>92778262
>>it's a "character gets blamed for something that isn't their fault" episode
I remember there's an episode of the Donkey Kong cartoon like this. Donkey Kong gets blamed for all this horrible stuff through-ought the episode, including hitting on Dixie Kong. Then the episode ends and he everyone still thinks he did all those awful things.
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>>92746505
Lmongrab was great though. I could listen to Justic Roiland's high pitched screeching for days.
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>>92743774
This is especially stupid cause Darkseid could have pretty much had that happen to anyone if he wanted, potentially making anyone just as guilty.
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>>92766110
>Mario parody
>"lol Mario gets high on mushrooms"
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>>92738606
WAKE UP IN THE MORNING FEELING LIKE P DIDDY
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>>92769603
Who is Dr Light from Teen Titans cartoon.
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>>92765961
example? that sounds cool.
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>>92759476
So Kyle from South Park?
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