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Ashi appreciation thread

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>literally held off an entire army and her mother for her future boyfriend
>ashi brushing her hair over her ear to try and get Jack to notice her
>that excited "more?" when jack says her cooking is good.
>asking about his past to basically figure out if it's okay for them be a couple
>gets visibly excited to take off the robe in front of him, and visibly disappointed when he stops her
>coming back to say "bye" when she goes to get new clothes because she want's to see him one more time after turning the corner
>that all around hopeful and sweet personality
>There was a scene where Jack and Ashi stared into each other's eyes for a few seconds not long after their kiss.
>Starts rubbing the goop off of his face but keeps her hand there even after the spot is clean
>Forces him to come clean about why he left, and chooses not to chastise him, but to comfort him and tell him that she'll help him make everything right
>eats the eye candy of jack showering but doesn't stay out of respect to his shyness about nudity
>Her pure love for jack was so strong it overcame a literal essence of evil
>Says "he never will" in response to aku askin if Jack is dead, implying she plans to guard him as long as she has breath in her body
>That pure happy smile as she's walking down the aisle
She was perfect, why did you take her from us, Genndy. Why did you take her from Jack.
She deserved happiness
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>>92715146
Missed ya fampai!
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>>92715230
Good morning mate!
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We all must admit if not for the nostalgia this season was a massive disappointment. If you disagree with me let me propose this question. If this season had come out in 2005, a year after the show was originally canceled, would you be happy with how everything went?
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>>92715146
SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN PERFECT
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>>92715281
Had it ended like this? Let me think...

Nope. Still would be utterly pissed.
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>>92715281
I didn't really have much nostalgia to be honest.
I barely watched the show as a kid because I didn't appreciate the pace.
After seeing the trailer for season 5, I binged through the original and enjoyed every saturday that the new one was on. except for the last one obviously.
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>>92715330
Not only do I think the ending sucked, I thought the whole season kinda sucked although it had the potential to be great.
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>>92715330
But then again in 2005 i was an angsty angry teen going through an goth/emo phase
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>>92715395
There were some good moments for thos season. And admit it: you enjoyed episode 8 for the triggering
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posting best Ashi
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>>92715514
DELET THIS
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>>92715501
Not him but I enjoyed episode 8 for the cheesy lovey dubby shit.
It hit all the right buttons for me.
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>>92715501
I don't mind the romance, I just mind the fact that it happened so fast. Just another one of the many things that jumped to conclusion in this season.
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>>92715622
Episode 8 was sheer perfection. Sadly episode 9 had the same feel as the AT episode Frost & Fire. We actually got to see how Jack and Ashi would've acted as newlyweds
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>>92715687
>Pacing was off
Anime has ruined us in this regard. That being said: will Toonami have the balls to air the entire Naruto vs Pain fight as a marathon next week?
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I was looking through threads of when the finale happened and I'm surprised no one pointed out that in a setting where ghosts and souls are confirmed to exist Jack just literally erased billions of people from existence while Aku was only sending them off earlier sometimes, thank you based Genndy.
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>>92715262
Still hurts anon. Not gonna lie
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>>92715945
>no one pointed out
uhhh?
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>>92715973
Talking about Jack erasing everyone yeah, but didn't see many claim that what Jack did was several orders of magnitude worse than anything Aku ever did.
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>>92716081
That's just because it takes a bit of time for it to kick in, especially after the gut punch of an ending.
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>>92716150
That ending wasn't a gut punch, it was a str8 horse kick
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Admit it. It was too perfect. Something bad HAD to happen.
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>>92716456
I would've accepted Jack dying after getting Ashi pregnant with their child.
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>>92715530
never
Demon Ashi is best Ashi
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>>92716456
Who says something bad HAD to happen? They had already defeated the villain, had not once addressed the consequences of time travel and there wasn't going to be a next season. There is no point in killing off the deuteragonist at that stage.
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>>92716508
Heretic.
Pregnant Ashi is best Ashi.
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>>92716508
>>92716653
>best ashi
>not a FUCKING LEAF
lmaoing at your lives
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Even though DrawAnon is not done with it, just want to share his sketch so people can appreciate it.
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>>92716694
>Posting Nature Princess Ashi
Wasn't that already established as perfection anon?
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>>92716694
Yes i dub this Ashi as Nature Princess Ashi. Cue baby birds nuzzling her
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>>92716653
>>92716694
Why not both?
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>>92716715
I remembered my request: having the chicks of the bird they rode in episode 7 nuzzling Ashi like she's their mother.
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>>92716816
>Ashi and Jack will never have a flock of carrier pigeons that she raises from hatching to adulthood
>they will never nuzzle her en masse while she is trying not to laugh from the tickling
>she will never beg Jack to stop them through the uncontrollable laughter
>Jack will never just stand and laugh his ass off while she screams "ITS NOT F-FUNNY" through her own giggling.
FUCK
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>>92716653
>half of the baby disappears
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>>92715281
I'm guessing my reaction would have been like mine now, intense enjoyment of the whole thing up until the last 10 minutes, which might have hit me harder than ever due to being a hormonal teenager
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>>92716914
Goddammit Genndy this is pure cuteness! We didn't deserve to be cucked WORSE than Starcofags!
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>>92716931
You need to go.
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>>92716951
It was in the last three minutes anon. It could've ended flawlessly on a high note
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>>92716963
I'm just saying, if you want to get an abortion, there are easier ways to go about it than fucking with time.
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>>92715622
It was just enough laughs and just enough cutes. Pretty much perfect, which is rare.
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>>92717000
>abortion
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND AND WANT TO KEEP IT?!
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>>92716653
>>92716694
No guys this is best Ashi
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>>92717048
>had to go back
>back to the future
>samurai abortion
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>>92717070
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>>92717070
I hope cancer takes everything you love anon.
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>>92716627
Anonymous, letting the good guys win isn't deep enough.
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>>92717070
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>>92717070
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>>92717070
Fuck you
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>>92717129
>Because if edgelords don't like it the series will tank
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>>92717129
Real talk I would be less pissed if Jack had found his sword conventionally and the scotsman stayed dead. the fact that those issues were both negated by a literal deus ex machina completely removes the feeling of actions having consequences, so when Ashi disappears it comes even further out of left field.
Tl;dr This season wasn't fucking deep in the first place and shouldn't have tried to end on an undeserved somber note.
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As much as tried to be fair to the whole thing, I can't help but feel that the first 3-4 episodes were from a different season - the amount of detail and time given to each story piece was really in keeping with the rest of the original run.

Can we truly claim it was rushed? Everyone feels like that, this season is certainly giving us the evidence for it, so would extra 2-3 episodes for development of ashi and a proper finale be beneficial? How would you allocate extra time, had you been in charge and given it? (And I mean within the confines of the existing plot - we all know everyone would change the ending so give me details about the middle or even beginning that you would alter).
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>>92716715
I feel like Jack should be more embarrassed.
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>>92717428
>We'll never see Jack and Ashi having super kinky bondage sex
Why even live?
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can it be done?
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>>92717531
I don't know why anyone would want that.
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>>92717531
D O I T
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>>92717531
Has Phil Lamarr or Tara Strong responded at all about fan requests to VO the fan-endings?
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>>92717539
How much do you wanna bet that he heard the Rule of Akool vocaroo?
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>>92717588
I'd rather hear Tara Strong read the King of the Hill fan ending "The Pig."
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>>92717588
Are people this desperate? Not to mention, I don't know if VAs have the permission to do these characters for private entertainment
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>>92715945
>this fanfiction shit again.
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>>92717070
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>>92717678
Tsundere Ashi a qt
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>>92717687
>heh, doesn't he know that my fanfiction is canon?
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>>92717048
HELLOOO SAMURAIIII, I AM HERE TO PERFORM THE ABORTION
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>>92717631
Would the idea of crowdfunding a contemporary slice of life sitcom about Jack and Ashi adjusting to the modern world and their first years dating and living together be a way to cope?
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>>92717531
>enabling such blatant attention whoring
I don't think.
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>>92717822
As the faggot who came up with that idea here in the first place and wrote a fuckload of greentexts about it?
Yes
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>>92717792
YOU SEEE SAMURAIIII, LAST TIME I FORGOT TO SEND A FETUS TO THE GARBAGE CAN OF HATE, I GOT STUCK WITH YOUUUUUUU
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>>92717853
AYYYYYY!!! IT AIN'T A JASHI THREAD WITHOUT THE VERMONT ANON!
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>>92717404
Genndy's worst mistake was shaving Jack's beard off.
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>>92716653
27:02-27:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROAlB4OCBSk&t=1633s
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>>92717849
>I don't think.
Clearly you didn't before posting
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>>92717919
Why anon?...
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>>92717921
Yeah, I goofed, but none the less, the fag should either do it or not, don't have people suck your dick first, then he might not even do it, if he didn't get enough of it.
Bullshit.
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>>92717485
Someone on tumblr sympathizes, apparently.

I frankly had them pinned for super-slow, vanilla, holding-hands-and-long-lingering-gazes-of-love missionary position sex, though.
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>>92717921
>Pan admitting to be /ourguy/
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>>92718027
DELET
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>>92718085
You prefer it the other way around?
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>>92718027
Why do i have a boner? Oh wait, now i remember...dammit
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>>92718124
STOP REMINDING ME OF MY EX WIFE DAMMIT!

Seriously though, we had kinky fucking sex brfore the divorce.
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>>92718290
What the fuck happened that made you lose this

Did she happen to...vanish?
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>>92718290
Nice blogpost.
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>>92718290
S'all I got, anyway.

LIke I said, I picture them being disgustingly vanilla and lovey-dovey.
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WTF I HAVE AKU POWERS NOW LOL
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>>92717631
You underestimate the generosity of VAs. Phil is based, and Tara just loves to mess around

between the two of them something could be done
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>>92718384
>We will never know if Jack got come before she went.
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>>92718408
>parentage is introduced as a mystery in E1, but implied to be strange and portentous
>unusual feats of strength (debatable, this IS Samurai Jack)
>revealed to be Aku's spawn
>Aku deliberately awakens the bit of him in her

Wow what a surprise she has Aku powers
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>>92718027
>I frankly had them pinned for super-slow, vanilla, holding-hands-and-long-lingering-gazes-of-love missionary position sex, though.

Nigger they are hardcore fucking warriors. I'm sure they would do tender stuff too.
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>>92718384
You mean like... this?
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>>92718335
Paranoia and jealousy make for poor choices anon.

we both cheated on each other.
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>>92717964
Sorry Mulan.
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>>92718539
>picture for ants
damnit
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>>92718423
You DO know she's sleeping with him on the side to cuck her husband right?
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>>92718619
>All of Ashi's sisters were probably rotting away or eaten by hungry animals while Ashi and Jack went off together
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>>92718658
Why are you peddling filthy rumors and ruining the thread? VA's are only interesting as far as their voices go, I don't care what they do.
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>>92718705
Pretty sure this fuzzball cleaned up his master's mess
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>>92718705
They didn't care even as they got annihilated, either, brutalized psychologically as they were.

It's kinda funny, the High Priestess made them WEAKER by insisting they not defend or help each other. She would've stood a better chance killing Jack sending them out as young teens than as completely pitiless adults.
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>>92718734
>Why are you peddling filthy rumors?
Oh I'm sorry, i thought this was 4chan
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>>92718619
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>>92717678
Combative Ashi was pretty fun, too. Especially that pout when Jack ignored her insult over the backfur.
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>>92716456
Gimme more Ashi baboon profiles.
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>>92718874
Speaking of back fur
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>>92718912
The snoot b cute
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>>92718461
>Genndy got away with showing hand holding
The madman had to be stopped
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>>92717897
AYYYYYYYY IT'S ME

Don't worry anon, Jack and Ashi will forever live on forever happily in the stories we created for them. Fighting hipsters for IPAs,
dicking around at Leddy Park, riding snowboards during blizzards down Colchester ave...
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>>92719357
As long as she's in our hearts, she'll never truly be gone. After all, Jashi was able to make even Zone draw something tender and vanilla
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Ashi!!!
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>>92719507
Remember anon: there's a reality where Ashi and Jack earned their happy ending.
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>>92719597
in your headcanon
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>>92719670
Multiverse theory actually.
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>>92719597
They earned it in this one, they just didn't get it.

Pic related, it's these two being lewd.
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>>92717853
I missed you, anon.
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>>92719695
ANON! THIS IS A BLUE BOARD!
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>>92717070
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>>92719790
Great job anon, ya triggered the emoji puppy
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>>92717070
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>>92717822
>>92717853
>>92719726
Not him, but sharing some drabbles compiled from the last thread:
>Aku is a corrupt corporate executive
>Demongo is Jack and Ashi's creepy landlord
>Scotsman is Jack's ex-army drinking buddy
>Rothchild is Ashi's old university professor
>Sam-oo-rai is the local bartender
>X-9 is an up and coming musician
>Scaramouche is a struggling lounge singer
>The wolf from Episode 3 is a rescued stray who ends up becoming their dog
>The Guardian is a bouncer at a local club called "The Portal"
>Jumpgood guy is a friendly homeless man who lives in the local park with an army of squirrel friends
>The Spartans are Jack and Ashi's favorite local football team
>Ashi's mom is a washed-up former child actress who pushes her kids too hard to make up for her own perceived shortcomings.
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>>92719959
>Scotsman is Jack's ex-army drinking buddy
More like Jack's old college fraternity brother
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>>92719959
Also forgot:
>The bird from episode 7 is Ashi's personal pet who can send Jack love notes
>The Archers are Jack's bow hunting buddies
>Olivia is the DJ at The Portal night club who also performed at Jack and Ashi's wedding
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>>92720120
>Olivia is a DJ at the local nightclub
>Took over after the previous owner, DJ Stylbator, was arrested on multiple counts of distributing experimental drugs to underage patrons.
>When confronted by the police in his penthouse, his only words were: "Aku set me up!"
>To this date, no investigation has been launched against Aku or his company.
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>>92720163
>>92720120
>>92720009
>>92719959
We need this greenlit.
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I wish this happened intsead
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>>92719959
I always imagined Jack's father and Aku to have a bitter rivalry that carries over to their children.
>Jack's parents are humble small business owners
>Aku is a self-made billionaire through manipulative business practices, his estranged wife left to raise their seven daughters
>Jack and Ashi both compete in a martial arts tournament as kids, fueled by their parents' rivalry
>meet up again as adults living in the same city, eventually become a couple
The more I talk about this, the more I want to make it into an actual thing.
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>>92720214
Goddammit i remember the thread with Aku trying to corrupt his grandson. It got crazy
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>>92719507
>They will never do the rave dance together

It hurts
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>>92715146
I appreciate that she was erased from existence.
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>>92717119
It already has
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>>92716496
Same
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>>92720257
>They never got to take their fist dance as husband and wife to Stereo Love
I will never stop mentioning that song
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>>92720214
>Aku is sealed away in the sword
>A stronger evil emerges and Aku is forced into helping Jack defeat them
>The sword has magic evil Aku powers, but Jack controls it
>The bants between them that ensure

>SAM-OO-RAI
>Do you have any idea how stuffy it is in that scabbard
>I mean I get that you hate me and all but come on let a guy breathe
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>>92720290
Obviously it didn't do enough.
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>>92720303
>Jack and Ashi's son finds the sword
Oh fuck here we go again
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I like how the ending was ripped off wholesale from TTGL.
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>>92720353
They never said "I do" though
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>>92715146
Yo
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>>92719959
>Ikra is Aku's twin sister who, despite her advanced years, is considerably attractive. She once attempted to seduce her niece's boyfriend
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>>92720448
Eww
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>>92720448
You just made it cringy
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>>92720256
>somewhere, in a shinto shrine, a young samurai's son is poking around where he shouldn't be

>GO ON, GRANDSON. SAY 'FUCK.' NO ONE WILL EVEN HEAR IT.
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>>92720632
Jack currently has a restraining order against her.
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>>92720348
>>92720303
>FOOLISH GRANDSON, DO YOU WISH TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR FATHER'S FIIIIIIRST GIRLFRIEND?
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>>92720353

It's kind of shocking how blatant it was, too. The whole thing with Ashi, really.
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>>92720819
Aku! Don't you dare say another word!
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>>92720868
>OH COME ON, SAMURAI. THAT WAS A FUN FEW WEEKS. I LEARNED TO APPRECIATE YOUR...RUGGEDNESS.
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>>92720908
Nothing happened and you know it.
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>>92720908
I'M PICKLE RIIIIIIIIICK
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>>92720945
>OH YES, SAMURAI, NOTHING. I'M SURE MY IIIIIIINSOLENT DAUGHTER COULD TELL US EXACTLY HOW MANY INCHES OF 'NOTHING.'
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>>92720980
LIES! ALL OF IT!
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>>92721011
>YOU SHOW A GUY A GOOD TIME, AND HE ACTS LIKE HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW YOU. TYPICAL.
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>>92720980
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>>92721077
You did no such thing
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>>92715286
Except for being a monkey
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>>92717070
Hero
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>>92721173
You wouldn't know beauty even if it sat on your face
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>>92721191
>an hero
FTFY
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>>92721199
You mean this THICC beauty?
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>>92721123
>YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU YELLED "AKUUUUUU!" IN THE MOMENT, I THOUGHT YOU'D FIGURED IT OUT, BUT I GUESS THAT'S JUST A FORCE OF HABIT WITH YOU.
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>>92721294
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>>92721363
You lie!
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>>92717404
If it were up to me I would have given the show two seasons, like 20-24 episodes. But if I were to only be limited to 10 episodes, I would have cut out the episode where Jack wanted to commit suicide and figured out a better way to explain Jack losing his sword and getting it back.
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>>92721481
>LET US ASK MY DAUGHTER THEN, YES? OH ASHI! AAAAAASHI!
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>>92721391
>NO MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED FOR ME I WILL NEVER BUCKLE - NEVER WAVER!
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I forget the title, but there was a recently published story on ff dot net about a law that prevented souls from disappearing due to time paradox. Meaning everyone Jack saved would still exist, they'd just forget him.

It ended with the high priestess getting a second chance and going back to have children with a normal dad, so that Ashi didn't disappear.
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>>92721565
Go get the chains ready, I'll be in there in a second
>>92721516
Sorry Aku, husbandly duties must be tended to.
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>>92718027
Jack is not kinky enough for that. He's a softie.
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>>92721747
You know, that's a lot of work for something so simple as not having Ashi disappear during the wedding - all you have to do is not make her go "poof" into thin air.
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>>92721782
Well he'd do anything to-I MEAN FOR Ashi
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>>92721766
>IT'S OKAY, SAMURAI. I REMEMBER HOW

>EXTRA
>THICC

>IT IS. I CANNOT BLAME HER. LEAVE THE FOOLISH RUNT WITH ME. I PROMISE NOT TO TALK HIM INTO LETTING ME OUT OF THE SWORD.
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>>92721747
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12504007/1/The-Law-of-Conservation-of-Souls
Just read it myself, actually.
Pretty fun to see the gods drop their heavenly personas desu. Seeing how Aku can be such a goofball, it makes more sense in the context of the show. Also, Scotsman and Rothchild chewing them out was gold
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>All these years I have seen so many innocents fall victim to Aku. Kind and decent people. My friends, my family, everyone of them. His evil has taken everything I've ever... loved. All I have left are memories. I do not want you to become just a memory.

Is this the saddest line ever uttered in Samurai Jack?
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>>92718617
Before even opening the spoiler I knew that was the answer.
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>>92718874
Gotta picture of the pout?
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>>92721988
It's the only time I can think of that Jack has admitted a vulnerability to another person, or intimated just how deeply and personally Aku's evil hurt him.
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>>92721988
Especially knowing what's coming yeah.
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>>92722028
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>>92721988
>I do not want you to become just a memory.
And then that's exactly what happened.
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>>92722032
Well, there was that time he was begging for help to the monks during the Aku Infection, even crying out of impotence and regret for having brought them so much pain.
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>>92722097
Amazing.
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>>92722097
So fuckin cute!
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>that scene where she washes herself
>when you realize that means the daughters of Aku were naked the entire time

L-lewd!
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>>92722141
Yeah. That's the only case I can think of, but it wasn't exactly the product of a private revelation.
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>>92722217
This one actually bothered Lamarr, interestingly enough, and he commented that it wasn't mere dirt and ash, nor were the sisters nude. It was a magical layer of goo from the pit of hate itself. Apparently it can be used to store things like weapons, and it must provide protection against the elements.
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>>92715281
As a stupid child, probably.
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>>92722217
We had a field day with that. Although so much porn suddenly became canonically incorrect that I seriously wonder if Genndy hadn't anticipated it.
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>>92722217
My jaw fucking dropped and I immediately made her my wallpaper on my phone
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>>92722217
I imagine that between Jack's stamina and Ashi's relentlessness, they will end up going overboard eventually.
Not before exploring each other and having awkward virgin sex
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>>92721953
This guy needs some editing, but he's got some good turns of phrase here and there, I think.
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>>92715530
>DELET THIS
Already did.
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>>92722285
I'm inclined to believe that, she stopped carrying a weapon after she lost it
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>She's fucking gone

Fuck you Gennetty
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>>92722285
He was bothered by people asking about it, though.
I guess The High Priestess must have made that out of what was left of Aku's essence after she drank it.
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>>92717404
>I can't help but feel that the first 3-4 episodes were from a different season
The storyboards and animation from the cancelled movie, most likely.

>How would you allocate extra time, had you been in charge and given it?
The finale. Make it longer than 22 fucking minutes.
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>>92718451
>grasping for straws
Daughter of Aku =/ I can use all of Aku's powers as effectively as the original
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>>92722322
She could've probably carried it like a normal person, but I get the impression Ashi very deliberately discarded every piece of her past. I kinda wonder if, had they stayed in the future and therefore had need for it, she would've chosen a new 'main' weapon or kept the habit of using what was on hand.

>>92722330
It should have been a big red flag that Lamarr pointed out that the cult had ANYTHING from the Pit of Hate itself.
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>>92720353
They didn't rip off the good parts. Just the shitty ending.
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>>92722396
>The finale. Make it longer than 22 fucking minutes.
This. I might have loved the season beginning to end (I've watched the finale three times and it got better with each viewing) but they could have really used 30 or 40 minutes.
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So, what happened to Jack's sword after killing Aku? Did he still have it after Ashi's death?
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>>92721988
Can you remember someone after they've been erased from existence, or do the memories disappear as well?
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Jack now wears the robe to hide all the scratch and bite marks.
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>>92722553
Jack seems like a walking temporal paradox; I think he's the only one who is immune to its effects. But if he isn't, good God, he's going to feel like shit for Ashi's loss and he won't even know why.
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>>92722540
He still has it, but we don't see him with it after time moves forward to his wedding. He doesn't bring it with him when he goes to be alone to mourn in private, either, if I remember right.

>>92722607
Actually, it's a gi.
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>>92722660

>"Now take off your damn robe!"
>"Actually, it's a -
>Covers his mouth
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>a general for a character
>a shitty one at that

fuck of back to /trash/
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>>92722751
>"I know, now take it off! And quit poking me with your... oh"
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I just realized something.

Put any other daughter in Ashi's place, they would've ended up the same way. Ladybug or not.
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>>92722900
Wrong. Ashi alone seemed to be open-minded enough to take a chance on what Jack was saying. That was the point behind showing her as the strongest but also the most unfocused of all the sisters.
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>>92722900
I think you'll have to elaborate, I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'm honestly pretty sure the other daughters of Aku were so thoroughly indoctrinated that they would have kept trying to kill Jack and been left behind completely once he realized he was wasting his time with her. We don't really see them showing signs of Ashi's inquisitiveness, her tendency to question things, or her empathy - save one other daughter, and it's pretty clear that the High Priestess was working on crushing out the vestiges of mercy in her.
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>>92722869
How did you know I came here from /tv/?
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>>92723013
>>92723041
We don't know how the other daughters were or their traits, for all we know they could've had empathy left in them or the brainwashing could've been undone over time just like Ashi.
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>>92723263
Except from a narrative point of view no one else is shown to be like Ashi, ergo she was unique among them.
That's basic storytelling, even Genndy couldn't fuck it up.
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>>92723263
It's possible, but unlikely for the reason >>92723318 stated. It's not impossible, I suppose. I wonder what conclusions a lone survivor would've come to when Jack just...let them go.
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>>92723318
We only got two or three scenes max showing Ashi's individuality, that's not really fair.
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>>92723475
True, but you didn't exactly need a ton. One that tends to get overlooked is her autistic shrieking when captured. This is not something a completely brainwashed die-hard does. She's ranting to herself as much as Jack.
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>Ashi corrupted the most pure Samurai of all time
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>>92723958
You say that like it's a bad thing
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>>92723989

Wait, I did? My bad
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>>92721996
Yup. We still keep in contact and not gonna lie there's still a flame so now i'm just being patient and waiting for my "temporary replacement" to make a major fuck up.
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>>92723958
Don't you mean
>The samurai purified the daughter of the most evil being of all time
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Hold tha FUCKING phone! I just thought of an interesting elseworld/AU spinoff series!
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>>92724098
>>92723958

>Ashi ties Jack up
>Roughly has her way with him, biting, scratches, etc
>Has Jack tie her up next
>Gentle caresses, compliments, soft kisses
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>>92724156
Uh, okay?
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>>92724067
Whatever you do, don't cheat on your temporary SO with your ex, if you want things repaired And don't want a repeat, it's a bad call to restart it with that kind of action.
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>>92724231
Set in a film noir style: Jack is a grizzled detective trying to bring down infamous mob boss Big Bad Aku. The Scotsman is his quick tempered loud mouth partner. Ashi is a femme fatale sent to kill Jack on orders from Aku.
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>>92724323
Nigga im talking about the asshole i got replaced with. I'm runnin stag atm
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>>92724329
I mean, I like noir, I'd give it a look I guess.

I'm assuming Aku is some sort of Japanese mob tough, ex-yakuza or something? Jack's an immigrant?
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>>92715146

she a mary sue and manic pixie girl
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>>92724371
Jack wouldn't be an immigrant.
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>>92724371
Exactly! After he bails Ashi out of a bad situation and realizes that she's a victim of Aku's slave trade he shows her kindness which blossoms into love.
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>>92724348
Oooooh Gotcha, same thing applies though, she should end things with him before getting back with you.
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>>92724371
>jack with tattoos
I'll pass on that
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>>92724424
The Scotsman would be though
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>>92724467
Could be like Sin City
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>>92724497
>>92724427
>>92724371
>>92724329
Are we forgetting this already?
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>>92724424
Jack's defining trait is being a permanent stranger, though. It'd be pretty easy to say he was a Japanese immigrant whose boat sank (assuming this is set in the early 20th century) and he was one of (very few) survivors.

>>92724467
No, I'm speculating that AKU would be the ex-yakuza, not Jack.

>>92724427
I mean, it might work. But noir tends to run on mystery punctuated with brief, shocking violence rather than heavy action with brooding slow contemplation.
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>>92724371
Tell ya what: I'll make a strawpoll >>92724527
Kinda what came to mind while on the shitter
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>>92724527
No, I was initially gonna suggest to anon he could use the whole "Jackie the Blade" thing, but I figure it'd be better for his moniker to be "Samurai" Jack as a sort of racist nickname that he accepts, because he takes romanticized ideas of bushido very seriously and considers it more of a compliment than anything.
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>>92724576
Strawpoll is up: https://strawpoll.com/6ywf2ee
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>>92724576
Okay here's what I ( >>92724371 ) thought of re: this idea of >>92724329 's

Aku: A notorious Japanese criminal who was forced from Japan by an alliance of other yakuza and legitimate authorities. His sobriquet of "Aku" stands in for his birth name among the plebs. Known for his humor, dramatic nature, and impulsive cruelty, he's basically taken control of all the crime in (some Californian city). Recently had a practical litter of daughters with one of his concubines, who has a slavish devotion to him. He literally forgot all about her.

"Samurai" Jack: A young private investigator living in (some Californian city). Polite, soft-spoken, and athletic, he prefers nature, which means he's often terse in his current surroundings. Was the only survivor of a rather rickety ship of immigrants that had the misfortune of witnessing one of Aku's drug running ops and was sunk. Gradually, Jack found out about this and has moved to the city with the ultimate goal of taking down Aku by any means necessary. His father was descended from samurai, and he takes the code of bushido very seriously.

The Scotsman: Son of a family of a poor but proud Scottish immigrants. The Scotsman clings stubbornly to his lineage, which got him his nickname during his police days. Fired for excessive violence with suspects, he is a sometimes-partner of Jack's, always ready for a scrap, with a good sense for justice but no idea of subtlety. Played the pipes for his police unit.
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>>92725022
Ashi: One of seven daughters of Aku's, he is a semi-legendary figure to her, the "ruler of the city" as her barely-sane mother styles her. She and her sisters have been raised to work as spies for Aku's criminal empire, though their mother's twisted perspective has them used proactively as investigators and assassins of Aku's. Ashi is by far the most curious of her kin and always wondered about the world outside her mother's brothel. Recently, she has come upon the trail of an enemy of her father's, a PI named Jack who has made it his mission to bring down the "Shogun of Sorrow" through any means necessary. She's confident that, if she kills this man, her father will finally acknowledge her.
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>>92718770
The bitch was 31 flavs of batshit insane. You expected strategy from the likes of her?
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>>92725133
No, I just find it amusing that by trying to be more evil she handed Jack victory. Poor kids.
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>>92724664
>Yakuza losing

FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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>>92719473
Jesus christ zone is a good artist
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>>92725288
That is very simple cartoon art, m8.
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>>92725336
I can't draw worth a fig myself, but I've heard artists complain that while SamJack's style is very simple, it's harder to emulate than it first appears.

>>92725288
Zone's known for being able to copy styles.
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>>92715146
>tfw i bashed her character thinking she will steal Jack' spotlight
>her death made me sad out of the most because she ceased to exist after a crappy life, not one ticket to heaven

I miss her bros
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>>92725398
I know zone is known for that, I just felt it needed repeating how quality it is.
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>>92715146
It was sad she had to go, but she had to sacrifice her life and existence to save the future. What would be better? A future without Ashi, or a Phyrric victory where the world is still ruined and left in chaos without Aku to hold everything together? It's bittersweet, but more sweet than bitter and more hopeful for the future.
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>>92725435
I really didn't think Genndy would do the 'dead girlfriend' thing just because he avoided other usual ride-alongs for the dead girlfriend trope. We got to see new sides of Jack thanks to her, and she didn't stop being dangerous as fuck, either. That was kinda nice.
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>>92717070
DELETE THIS
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>There are people who don't think Ashi's monkeysnout is cute

Ashi is the cutest though!
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>>92725462
I wanted more battle dancing.
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>>92725283
Then vote nigga
>>92725075
>>92725022
Pure perfection senpai
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>>92725435
It's basically the sole reason I'm pissed at the finale. It really sends a fucked up message about how if you overcome your ingrained evil nature, oblivion is your fate.
And I get the whole "redemption equals death" trope, but Ashi never needed redeeming, she was taught since birth that killing the samurai will literally save the world, and after being shown otherwise, she joined him and never voluntarily left his side after that.
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>>92715146
this story was worth finishing because the creator wanted to get across the conflict of personal sacrifice in a hero and that doing good by the world means not doing good by the individual

it's a deep message that speaks to the complication of life and existence, which is why it's aimed at adults and not children
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I thought this season was great. I don't really know what anyone else expected.

Last episode needed to be an hour. That's literally the only problem.
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>>92715146
Ashi hides her growing weakness as her and Jack spend intimate time together, with no dialouge scenes as they travel the landscape and show the general cliche signs of being in love. One of the last scenes in the sequence would be Jack proposing, and Ashi and Jack laying down in a bed (seen through veil around the bed or something) as its implied they sleep together.

Ashi's last words are : "I love you, Jack. I always will"

After that sequence would be a scene where a depressed Jack has a one on one talk with his Dad. I dont know what the dialouge would be exactly but they would embrace each other as his dad shares wise words of comfort and the whole scene would mirror the very first one in the show where the Emperor talks to kid Jack .

The credits play on screen as we see the fixed future. Seeing alien races living happily on their own planet with familiar faces, and the familiar human faces living in a much brighter futuristic civilization.

After the final credits, the Ladybug/Valley of Trees scene plays


Did I fix the ending we got?
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>>92725022
>>92725075
Sounds kino, would watch
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>>92725631
No because Ashi isn't alive and well when the credits roll
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>>92725631
Go fuck yourself that even sadder!
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>>92725491
Their spirit lives on platonic, family love.

I thought Jack looked too much like Lance at points in the finale.
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>>92725687
I wasnt trying to make a happier ending, just a better quality one


Im completely satisfied with the plot of s.5. It just needed to be fleshed out with more/longer episodes. Thats what i tried to do

>>92725676
does /co/ still not realize that there was absolutley no way they were ever going to be able to live out their lives together from the start?

Ashi would not have aged while Jack would if she stayed in the past

Jack would not have aged in the future if he stayed while Ashi would have

With Aku being her literal Dad, Ashi was completley fucked from the beginning.

We as the audience were supposed to pick up on this theme but the plot was rushed and crammed into 10 episodes so it went above most of our heads.

That was the whole point of the scene where Ashi begs Jack not to kill himself. Because she realized her life was doomed from the start and Jack gave her a chance at knowing something greater
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>It's a butthurt Guardianfag/futurefag writes a season without Ashi episode

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/258/319/27d.png
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>>92725746
>Ashi would not have aged while Jack would if she stayed in the past
We do not know how ashi's parentage translates to lifespan
>Jack would not have aged in the future if he stayed while Ashi would have
ditto
>With Aku being her literal Dad, Ashi was completley fucked from the beginning.
A sentient piece of Aku does not cease to exist if the source is destroyed(birth of evil part 1), Ashi disappeared because he died before he could have sired her
>We as the audience were supposed to pick up on this theme but the plot was rushed and crammed into 10 episodes so it went above most of our heads.
Thats subjective, I interpreted the theme from episode 4 up to episode 10 as "no matter how far gone something appears, it can be regrown from the ashes if you use hope to work toward it"
>Because she realized her life was doomed from the start and Jack gave her a chance at knowing something greater
She just didn't want to be responsible for hurting the one person in the world who she loves, and the one person in the world who loves her.
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>>92725746
>Ashi would not have aged while Jack would if she stayed in the past
>Jack would not have aged in the future if he stayed while Ashi would have

If we assume that it's being in the "wrong" era which freezes your aging, then yeah, that would be the case. And I assume that that was the intent behind Jack's lifespan freezing (though it doesn't occur to him, it seems, that she might have gotten frozen in time like he was).

One could easily get around this by saying that Jack is only effected because Aku's magic is still alive, and killing Aku puts an end to that. Of course, you need a future ending for that.

>That was the whole point of the scene where Ashi begs Jack not to kill himself. Because she realized her life was doomed from the start and Jack gave her a chance at knowing something greater

At that point Ashi is still optimistic that she can live, thrive, and be happy, though.
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>>92725931
Whatever blows your hair back, man.
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Daily reminder that Ashi and Jack spent at least (and I'm being very generous with that minimum) a year together before their attempted marriage.
Pic related could have happened
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>>92725961
>We do not know how ashi's parentage translates to lifespan

She was aging normally up until that point

>ditto with Jack

"I....do not age."
"It would appear that is a side effect from the initial time portal"

>A sentient piece of Aku does not cease to exist if the source is destroyed(birth of evil part 1), Ashi disappeared because he died before he could have sired her

I dont understand what your point is. If Jack undoes the future Ashi is fucked. If Jack stays he doesnt age and she dies old before him


>Thats subjective, I interpreted the theme from episode 4 up to episode 10 as "no matter how far gone something appears, it can be regrown from the ashes if you use hope to work toward it"

I meant A theme. Not "the" theme.

>She just didn't want to be responsible for hurting the one person in the world who she loves, and the one person in the world who loves her.

...I was referring to when he was about to commit suicide and they hadnt even realized they loved each other yet. I was addressing how her lifes sole purpose was to be doomed in reality, i.e. the fate of her sisters
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>>92725972
>One could easily get around this by saying that Jack is only effected because Aku's magic is still alive, and killing Aku puts an end to that. Of course, you need a future ending for that.

Ashi would have died immediatley when Aku was killed if that was the case
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>>92726179
Not necessarily, since Aku goo doesn't actually seem to be at all integral to her human body even in the actual episode. And there's a rather big difference between 'side effects of a spell' and 'this crazy bitch shoved my spunk up her cooch with a turkey baster.'
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Long ago in a distant land, Aku, the shape-shifting master of darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a brave samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose him. With help from his allies and blessing from deities, he was able defeat this ancient evil once and for all. Through years of hard work, the past has been built with hopes never to encounter a foe such as Aku again. Now the heroes must always be alert for the present to lead the way into the better and brighter future.
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>>92726129
>She was aging normally up until that point
we literally don't know how old she was, especially now because we only assumed her age based off of looks and human aging process. For all we know she could have stopped physically aging when she hit "25"
>ditto with Jack
Sorry if I was unclear, when i said ditto I meant we don't know if Ashi is biologically immortal, and if she was, then she and immortal jack could live forever
>If Jack undoes the future Ashi is fucked.
Genndy chose last second to clarify whether it was one linear or multiple timelines, he could have easily written it utilizing multiple timelines
>I meant A theme. Not "the" theme.
I disagree that was a theme(except of course for episode 10 when it was crammed in) regardless.
>...I was referring to when he was about to commit suicide and they hadnt even realized they loved each other yet. I was addressing how her lifes sole purpose was to be doomed in reality, i.e. the fate of her sisters
My bad. In that scene however, she is not saying she is still doomed, she is saying that her life WAS doomed(as her sisters showed) and he saved her. That does not imply imminent death.
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>>92718027
I have never liked anything like this before, but for some reason I really enjoy thinking about them doing stuff like this

I can picture them being all gentle and cleaning each other's wounds before cuddling up together under a thick blanket and having a good sleep in each other's arms
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>>92726129
>Ashi disappeared because he died before he could have sired her
>I dont understand what your point is
Are you trying to appear retarded?
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>>92726362
A lot of BDSM porn comes off as pretty mean, but you know these characters like and trust one another, so it doesn't sit so badly is probably it.
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>>92726312
Was it shaped like Jodie Foster's knuckles?
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>>92715146
It boggles the mind how /co/ could have shit enough taste to actually like this character.
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>>92726394
>like
IT'S LOVE YOU FUCKER RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>92726447
It boggles the mind how you could have shit enough taste to actually dislike this character.
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>>92726449
/co/ntrarians don't comprehend the concept of love
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>>92726322
>My bad. In that scene however, she is not saying she is still doomed, she is saying that her life WAS doomed(as her sisters showed) and he saved her. That does not imply imminent death.

It implies she was living on borrowed time. Her fate was never going to be a long fulfilling life, which is the recurring theme I referred too that you disagree with.

>Genndy chose last second to clarify whether it was one linear or multiple timelines, he could have easily written it utilizing multiple timelines

Undo the future that is Aku

Sorry if your headcanon believed in multiple timeline theory but this was seen coming from miles away to the rest of us

>
we literally don't know how old she was, especially now because we only assumed her age based off of looks and human aging process. For all we know she could have stopped physically aging when she hit "25"

Youre just grasping at straws now

>>92726312
Integral to her being born. I dont see your point anymore
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>>92726449
Calm down, my man, I wasn't implying they didn't.
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>>92726474
You clearly haven't seen the Jannafags then
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>>92726474
>no u
Standard fanboy fare. Stop having shittaste.
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>>92726371
Read the inital posts first
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>>92726478
It's not love, fanboy. It's limerence. They're horny teenagers.
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>>92726526
Starting a fucking counter argument with "I don't understand" is kinda setting yourself up to get roasted fampai.
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>>92726486
>Integral to her being born. I dont see your point anymore

Let me try to phrase it more clearly.

We have a problem, that is, Jack is immortal. We have two likely causes. The first is that Jack is in the "wrong" time, so he can't age. This SEEMS to be the canon one. The second is that Aku's spell itself has some sort of lingering effect, tied to Aku existing. This is a bit more contrived, but curses like this are an old staple of fiction.

If scenario 2 was the cause behind Jack's immortality, then Ashi and Jack could have a case where they both lived normally, albeit in the future.
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>>92726545
Dean Martin disagrees.
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>>92726602
Don't care.
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>>92726579
>If scenario 2 was the cause behind Jack's immortality, then Ashi and Jack could have a case where they both lived normally, albeit in the future.

It isnt.
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>>92726643
Right, I agree that it isn't, but this all gets back to the post saying that there was no way they could live their lives together from the start, when a couple of relatively arbitrary writing changes could have made it possible.
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>>92726629
You forgot "Muh Headcannon"
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>>92726486
>It implies she was living on borrowed time.
She literally said her life was saved by him, if anything that implies that she is no longer on borrowed time
>Undo the future that is Aku
That is literally just the premise, most movies/shows do not follow through with the initial starting goal, and what usually happens is the characters find something better in the journey and people they met.
>Youre just grasping at straws now
Says the one applying human lifespan rules to a halfbreed and refusing any alternative opinion
>>92726643
>It isnt.
And how do you know that? where is the scene that addresses it?
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>>92715281
The ending might have made me feel a bit more sad, but I'm pretty sure I still would have viewed it as a shitty ending.
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>>92726678
>when a couple of relatively arbitrary writing changes could have made it possible.

That would be fanservice

I want a good ending. Doesnt mean it needs to be happy sunshine and rainbows.
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>>92726694
That's not how you spell that you retarded Genndy dick-sucker
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>>92725462
>Asian
>monkey snout

What did Genndy mean by this?
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>>92726764
Someone's never heard of sarcasm
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>>92726748
Yes and no. Jack still fails to return to the past in this hypothetical, and you'd have to deal with him coming to terms with (or being haunted by) it. I think you can extract a perfectly competent "we can't save the past, but we can save tomorrow" ending from that.
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>>92726748
>That would be fanservice
You're absolutely right, fanservice at the end would have been absolutely out of place in a show where 4-5 episodes earlier, fan favorite characters were brought back to life with no actual explanation for what ended up being completely meaningless influences on the season
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>>92716456
Ashi is fucking adorable.
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Post more Akushi
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>>92726848
How is he saying that while unconscious?
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>>92726937
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>>92726959
Monster fetished freaks. No wonder you'll never get laid
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>>92717070

Monster.
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>>92717907
The gods did that, Anon.
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>>92726848
>>92718912
>>92719152
Its a caricature of eastern female profiles. I don't get why people get so laser focused on hers when everyone has an oddly shaped head
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>>92726937
The violent girlfriend trope works well on her

and is sexy as fuck imo
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>>92726719
>Says the one applying human lifespan rules to a halfbreed and refusing any alternative opinion

At least I have supporting evidence. She aged normally up until the end of the show which in itself didnt take long enough to reveal any significant aging periods.

>That is literally just the premise, most movies/shows do not follow through with the initial starting goal, and what usually happens is the characters find something better in the journey and people they met.

This isnt most movies/shows. Which are mostly shit.

>>92726860
The reality is that even though his mission was basically tragically over for 50 years, having that future as the official future for humanity is infintely more dark and tragic than otherwise. The fact that he was able to achieve it out of pure love was great writing. But we all know you cant have your cake and eat it too. Which is why i tried to make a more satisfying canon ending here >>92725631

>>92726885
Those episodes werent the finale
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>>92717665
Proceed...
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>>92717907
No his worst mistake was killing off a loyal protective woman
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>>92726937
She is unadulterated perfection, and her influence on jack is just the icing on the cake
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>>92727072
I can accept a tragic ending, though I don't like it, but I feel the problem is mostly down to not having any sort of proper closure to Ashi/Jack or future people/Jack. And I think it'd be better to just have it that Ashi perishes without the Aku part of her for mundane biological reasons rather than messing with time paradoxes which always end up stuffed up their own ass.

I don't agree that you can't 'have your cake and eat it too.' This sort of cynicism in real life and in media is a disease. It doesn't happen often, but sometimes the good guys just fucking win and the loving couple really do stick it out until they die.
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>>92727085
This is all else I have.
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>>92717531
Just followed.

D O I T F A G G O T S.
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>>92717907
I was honestly kinda expecting, from this promo shot, that Ashi would ask Jack to keep the beard pre-ep 6.
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>>92727197
Fuckin Sasgay
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>>92718014

Considering the toll Aku takes on *my* throat, I think he *should* get his Internet cock sucked.
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>>92727223
Sasuke but straight.
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>>92727252
Are you the

>Go on, samurai...say FUCK

Aku?
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>>92727072
>supporting evidence
We have 50 years of unaccounted for time, we were given absolutely zero indication how many of those years Ashi was alive, whether it supports my side or yours
>This isnt most movies/shows.
True, most shows/movies pick a tone and stick with it while also properly introducing ideas and pacing them correctly.
>Those episodes werent the finale
True the finale didn't bring anyone back from the dead, but it spent half of the episode focusing on "REMEMBER THIS GUY? HE CAME BACK TO FIGHT AKU? AND REMEMBER THE JUMP GOOD DUDE?" as nothing more than nostalgia bait.
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>>92727264
>Sasuke
>straight
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>>92727252
>do scotsman vocaroo
>the more my throat feels like it's getting damaged, the more accurate it sounds
I regretted that shit for hours
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>>92727276
Hes clearly the Rule of Akool anon
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>>92727294
I mean 64 Ashi >>92727197
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>>92727323
Those are the same guy, check his soundcloud.
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>>92727323
Thats the same guy I think. I haven't heard them recently so I'm not certain.
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>>92727346
*63
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>>92727317
Its extremely difficult sounding Scottish WITHOUT cussing. And I'm of Scottish descent!
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>>92727373
>I'm of scottish descent
r8 my scotsman pls
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0imv3K7owdE
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>>92719507
>That last post

Fuck you anon
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>>92727432
4/10. First sound a wee bit shit faced while swearin like a fookin sailor.
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>>92727539
I meant in immitation of dimaggios scotsman. I can't really improv with voices, but I can read off a phonetical script pretty well.
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>>92727484
Really twists the dagger, doesn't it?
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>>92722301
See>>92717919
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>>92727589
DiMaggio sounds like hes trying to take a shit
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>>92721953
This is my new headcanon.
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>>92727677
Aku being left as a tiny speck to suffer and shriek was a nice touch.
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>>92727677
Here's mine and you've probably seen it before: Blah blah blah wedding reception blah blah blah first dance blah blah blah Stereo Love blah blah blah tender kiss to fade out ROLL CREDITS
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>>92727148
>I don't agree that you can't 'have your cake and eat it too.' This sort of cynicism in real life and in media is a disease

If were going to bring real life into this this whole show would have problems from the get go. In media we have to try and find a balance between real life implications and fulfilling fictional ideas that normally wouldnt be possible. And as much as Id want a super happy ending for Jack, the fact that he has to get back to the past severly limits the options for a happy ending while keeping good writing

>I can accept a tragic ending, though I don't like it, but I feel the problem is mostly down to not having any sort of proper closure to Ashi/Jack or future people/Jack.

This is a fair point and I tried addressing it in my fan made canon expansion ending

>>92727285
>We have 50 years of unaccounted for time, we were given absolutely zero indication how many of those years Ashi was alive, whether it supports my side or yours

If thats the case Ashi wouls have noticed that she doesnt Age a long time ago and would have brought that up, you fucking retard.

>True, most shows/movies pick a tone and stick with it while also properly introducing ideas and pacing them correctly.

Kek. Look I know this season ended on bad pacing, it badly needed more episodes and I cannot disagree. But the fact remains that SJ is objectively better than the majority of the shit on the air and has been since it originally aired
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>>92722315
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>>92727785
>If thats the case Ashi wouls have noticed that she doesnt Age a long time ago and would have brought that up, you fucking retard.
I didn't say she was 50 years old, just that we have zero idea how quickly she ages, or how long she has been alive, and we never have.
>But the fact remains that SJ is objectively better than the majority of the shit on the air
Why do people constantly say that their opinion is objective?
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>>92728166
Ashi is almost certainly in her early 20s, since she can still hear higher pitched noises than Jack, an ability you lose with age (or earlier, with trauma).
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>>92722444

Why not?
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>>92728206
>applying human aging concepts to a half breed born out of the oral ingestion of pure evil.
why
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>>92727185

+1
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>>92727276
>>92727317

Nope, sorry, I only do that sit around friends and family.
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>>92717897
>>92719726
>>92719959
Fug, I spent all night working and now I have to go to bed, I have some more cute Burlington ideas that I'm dying to share in another thread.

Goodnight.
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>>92729007
Goodnight Anon
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>>92729050
Jashi is cute. CUTE
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>>92727072
Would the post Aku future have been extremely dark and tragic? I mean, there always seemed to be alot of stuff both in season 5 and the original 4 seasons that seemed to imply that there was still hope for the future. That despite all the damage done, the world and its inhabitants could heal. That's a big part of why I find the ending so dissatisfying. There was so much that seemed to convey hope for the people of that future, and then everybody got scrubbed out of existence. It just really seems to clash with what was being hinted at and built up to. Or maybe I've just been misinterpreting the show this whole time, which, considering the ending, I guess must be the case.
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>>92729050
>>92729111
post more please
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>>92729375
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>>92720303
>Aku becomes a fucking Wakfu ShuShu

YES
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>>92729433
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>>92729533
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>>92717070
Oh Fuck you keking little shit stop before my sides disappear too
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>>92729561
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>>92727185
Morrrrre
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>>92729653
>MY LOVE FOR YOU LIKE A TRUCK
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>>92729653
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>>92729675
>grabbing his sword
Lewd!
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>>92717070
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
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Obligatory reminder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzuBgeiSnk

Everyday I feel more disappointed with the finale.
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>>92715146
>mary sue: the character
Next.
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>>92730204
>It's another "newfag twists the definition of Mary Sue into 'character I don't like' episode"
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>>92730204
As hard as it is to defend Genndy's writing after the finale, by definition, a character is not a mary sue if they were created by the person who created the original source material.
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Alternate ending youtuber posted part 1 of their Alt-alt ending. It's actually really fucking well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fez-RfNLSsw&ab_channel=TheMixzero6
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>>92730667
You would think the gods would throw him a fucking bone.
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>>92730667

Damn, hearing Mako's laugh at the end gave me chills. Why couldn't he just cling to life for another 11 years?
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>>92730887
the gods don't give a shit. they let aku rule the Earth when he sent Jack into the future.
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>>92731021
I saw it more as they didn't care when Aku was killed, as long as it eventually happened, that is why they kept Jack alive for half a century after he lost the sword, so he could eventually regain balance and earn it back. If he was killed in battle, flora or another character like that would likely be given a sword and blessing.
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>>92730667
I like this
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>>92730667
I like it, even if I take issue with a couple of things
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>>92730667
The fact that there's already like three fanmade alternate ending storyboards warms my heart. Tells you a lot about the actual ending we got.
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>>92731450
>all my friends except one think the ending was perfect
>sperg out at them to why i hate it
>"my boy went back to the past, that's all that matters"
"And that final shot was as fitting as it gets so everything else is ok"
Mfw
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>>92726959
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>>92729050
>My heart wasn't expecting this image but now it wants it.

GODDAMMIT GENNDY!!
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>>92731717
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>>92731670
>yfw you think she is going to die but the sword can't be used to kill and will only burn Aku's essence away before restoring her in all her naked glory
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>>92731737
Technically she was back in her "NAKED THE WHOLE TIME" outfit after gaining control over her Aku-ness.
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>>92730667
Everything up to the creating of a portal was perfect. Had the fight ended with an epic Tri Attack of the Scotsman, Ashi, and Jack to kill Aku it would of felt fucking kino.
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>>92726447
>It boggles the mind how /co/ could have shit enough taste to actually like this character.
Nah, it's only thirsty waifufags who like her. These threads and strawpolls about Ashi rarely exceed 80 IPs, and that includes involvement from people who don't like her.
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>>92726447

In my case it's not so much that I like Ashi but that I felt really bad for Jack at the end. Dude goes through 50 years of hell just to get kicked in the dick at the last second.
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>>92730667
Also in destroying the Present Aku, Ashi would only lose her demonic powers. So even though Jack now has no way to return to the past he realizes that to live in the past makes you blind to the future.
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>>92732042
Clearly you've never seen the countless Starco threads on this board.
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>tfw just laid in bed for 2 hours today not wanting to get up and do anything
>tfw just wanted to go back to sleep and have that Jack and Ashi dream again
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Soon it will be time to sketch
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where's artist with request of doom and Samurai jack?
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>>92731763
Only this time it's not a coating, but her actual skin shapeshifted.
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>Samurai Jack Marathon in less than 24 hours

I... I don't know if I even want to watch it, honestly
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>>92732214
Ayy you're back! How was your day?
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>>92732249
I know I don't want to watch it.
I have all the episodes recorded anyway if I really feel the need
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>>92732249
Apparently there's a rumor going on that there's an alternative ending at the end of the marathon
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>>92732269

Pretty fun, not sure if I want to start from scratch or finish up the old one. How were y'all nigs?
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>>92732234
That was a different thread, they might not be an ashifag
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>>92732299
There won't be.
>>92732305
I had a pretty good day, I finally regained my appetite after 2 weeks of not enjoying food. Teriyaki chicken was the secret
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>>92732359

>Teriyaki flavored

Like Ashi?
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>>92732305
Not to intersect boards but i noticed something while playing Skyrim after watching Samurai Jack. Mainly in the DLCs.
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>>92732390
If you say so.
It's always been my comfort food, especially this pre marinated chicken from mitsuwa that I bake and eat with rice. I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner.
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>>92732433
What? That jack fell in love with a spriggan?
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>>92732455
No, that Serana from the Dawnguard DLC is like Ashi and Harkon is like Aku
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>You'll never travel through the future with your GF
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>>92732479
And the protagonist is cucked out of romancing her by shitty writing?
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>>92732525
I think Bethesda wanted her to be marriable but Todd said no.
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>>92732479
>raven
>ashi
>Serana
What the hell is it about this archetype that makes the characters so likable
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>>92732548
>And from his office could be heard, like the falling walls of a once formidable empire
"KEK THEM! KEK THEM ALL!"
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>>92732548
Again, shitty writing, her reason for turning you down is she has "a bad history with churches"
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>>92732437
>baking chicken instead of grilling over binchotan charcoal
Why even bother?
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>>92732591
Because it tastes great and takes zero effort since I chuck it in the toaster oven
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>>92732588
So getting married under the Gildergreen in Whiterun isn't romantic enough?
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>>92732602
Still the taste you get from grilling over high heat ans the crispy grilled fat is divine
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>>92732588
But in Serana's defense she WAS raped by the elder scrolls equivalent of Satan
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>>92732680
I'm sure it Is, I'm shit at grilling though, I don't really like cooking by "feeling", I like measurements
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>Dat posture
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>>92732767
On a side note: what do you think of an AU spinoff like this? >>92725022
>>92725075
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>>92716653
it hurts so goddamn much that this won't happen
i can't believe i'm so upset over a fucking cartoon
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>>92732943
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>>92732960
Jack represented our internal suffering and Ashi is that one person who makes like worth living
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>>92726959
I think the design is dumb and boring
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>>92732960
I just wanted my childhood hero to get everything he deserved in a way that wasn't too far fetched for the story and setting.
Just to enjoy some childhood memories again and finally have a hearty, heroic resolution.

Instead I feel empty.
And I will forever have trust issues.
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I wish the one with the lesbian haircut lived. She was hot
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>>92715146
>making fanfic characters
So is this like girl jack or something?
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>>92732960
>>92733009
>>92733123
>genndy says he wants all of us to leave the season feeling love
>we just feel angry and betrayed
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>>92733188
Never trust a Russian
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>>92733188
Bravo, Genndy!
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>season 6
>reveal aku was destroyed but not killed
>his tiny scattered bits slowly slither back together
>cut to: jack sleeping in bed
>jack is awakened by the sound of Ashi's voice
>he tries to ignore it
>"why do my dreams haunt me so..."
>suddenly he feels Ashi's embrace
>"Jack... Jack wake up... Jack its me..."
>jack bolts up
>"ASHI? Is it really you?"
>"yes Jack...."
>she begins to shapeshift, voice changes to Aku's
>"Its MEEEEEEEE!"
>"AKU!!"
>Aku immediately creates a time portal and sends Jack to the future again.
>everything went exactly the same except for slight differences
>Jack searches for years to find the lair of the daughters of Aku
>He waits patiently for the daughters to be born
>manages to sneak in and steal Ashi from her crib
>He raises her to be a force for good
>she grows up to become essentially a female samurai jack with aku powers

or jack just fucks baby ashi idk
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>>92717070
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>>92733253
>steal Ashi from her crib
What tha fuck m8?
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>>92732269

Btw the first sketch was really damn stiff so I'm reworking from the start
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>witnesses 101% evidence that Jack would rather die a horrible death than see something happen to her
>willingly kills herself
MY PERFECT WAIFU
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>>92733292
ok ash pile whatever
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>>92733253
I mean, if you think about it, just a surviving speck of The Black Mass was enough to create Aku, albeit it took thousands of years for him to be unleashed.
It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think that a man could find, say, an underground pool of insentient Black Mass that had seeped through the earth and become a Aku-like villain.
If you wanted to make a new season, that is.
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>>92717618
I'd rather hear her read children of the trough
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>learns first hand that her becoming a memory is something Jack's most afraid of
>makes sure that this is literally the end of ther series
SHE WAS SO PERFECT
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>>92733308
Alright sounds good! I'm looking forward to it.
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Can Mods just make a Samurai Jack General to contain these cancerous fags?
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>>92733422
Don't you have an SU gen thread to stink up?
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>>92733422
I've never participated in a general before, how do those work? Like does a mod start the threads? or do they delete threads outside of the general?
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>>92732573
Is Serana voiced by Tara Strong?
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>>92733486
thank christ no, Laura Bailey.
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>>92733505
Aka Lust from FMA
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>>92726038
I'm dying, this is too cute!
I'd like to imagine this is how their first time happens, with jack falling on her/vice versa, leading to prolonged eye contact/kissing ect.
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>>92733678
Can someone make an animation of Jack and Ashi reenacting the scene from Deadpool where he promises to find her in the next life and boombox careless whisper outside her window?
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>>92717070
DELET
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>>92717070
this fucking guy
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>>92733505
That just makes me wonder how Laura would've been as Ashi.
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>>92717070
ha!
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>>92729849
>WH-WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

>THAT'S DISGUSTING!
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That DFG chick also did art of the Scotsman as a tabby cat.
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>>92732299
/tg/ here, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
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>>92732299
what
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We back now?
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>>92734107
Just a rumor without evidence
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>>92731610
>ending apologists are real
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Anyone else notice how badly Jack and Ashi get swooced compared to the Emperor and Empress?

I mean, the Emperor gets rescued from death; given a divine sword, armor, and a magic nimbus. His wife and kid live, and he has years of prosperity before Aku returnsreturns and BTFOs him because he wasn't ready.

Meanwhile Jack' life basically ended at 8, and he spent his entire time training or traveling to prepare to take up his father's duty at 25. Then he gets bamboozled at the last second and spends a torturous lifetime in the future pursuing his duty with not a whiff of divine aid. When he FINALLY accomplishes his duty, he's lost true love to it, and may even be damned to immortality in the bargain.

Ashi gets it even worse, training from hell, alienated from everyone, fed lies for twenty years, finds love and hope only to have to give it up just as she's made it hers. And HER reward is a fate worse than death.
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>>92734873
Being Jack is suffering.
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>>92717070
wow
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>>92734873
they both saved the whole fucking planet not just Jack's parents
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>>92734873

There's no justice in samurai jack. Jack fucking goes thru hell and back just to get kicked in the face after saving the world.

Also, Ashi's disappearing isn't for her at all. It's for that shitty "bittersweet" ending. See, it would be better if say a character that has committed grave sins (like killing children) to have an ending where he/she makes one last sacrifice to redeem themselves. However, Ashi never even committed any wrongdoings. She never even killed anyone and yet she still disappears. A real slap to the face from Gendy.
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>>92725931
That's terrible. Seeing things like that vindicate Genddy's decision s
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>>92734873
SHAGGY IS DAT YOU?!
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>>92734022
>sultry voice AND bedroom eyes
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>>92734254
Fucking maintenance bullshit. Oh and remember that Genndy got this past the radar
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>>92736154
No one even made the usual jokes at the time.

You know, when the Emperor starts arranging courtship meetings for Jack, that's going to he hellishly awkward for prospective women.
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>>92717531
Bump
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>>92736211
pretty sure it will be the old "Not My Type" routine and let's face it: Ashi was flawless for Jack.
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>>92735563
The only people she killed were:
Several cultists (survival trial)
Not!Moltar (guy was sadistic)
A 10k Orc army (was protecting her husbando)
AND
Her own mother (again was protecting husbando and her mother deserved it)
All of these were either in self defense, while protecting Jack, and justified.
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>>92736211
>>92736268
We assume she was flawless for him because they were similar? Lots of similar people get along at first but fight terribly later because they want it their way.

But yeah I can hear the discussions now:
"Did you ever have anyone special in your life?"
"Well I did but she died during our wedding ceremony."

Thankfully for Jack we're talking about medieval Japan and his dad is pretty much just assigning him a piece of ass. She'll be marrying into the emperor's family and he'll have a woman to keep him sane; everybody wins.
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>>92736510
How very narrowminded and shallow of you to post anon.
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>>92736572
Why, because I'm not assigning my social values to a very old feudal culture?
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>>92736510
To be frank, I see Jack committing seppuku not long after Ashi disappeared. He was willing to sacrifice his entire quest for her and now that his journey is complete and Ashi gone, I don't really see him living on; he has no purpose since his entire life goal has been achieved and all the relationships he had and challenges he overcame are erased, what's the point of living?
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>>92736668
No, for assuming that Jack, a virtuous being, would replace his first love with some random concubine.
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>>92736704
What's worse is that this time Ashi won't be there to save him again.
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>>92736704
I think the very last scene was to show he has hope for the future once more. But if he gets depressed again, there won't be someone to pull him out of it this time.
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>>92736704
>>92736758
Ashi wouldn't want him to die, though. And he still has a duty to his father.
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>>92736390
I should've clarified on that killing point. What I meant to say was she never committed any villainous wrongdoing, essentially any evil act that would need to be redeemed for her character arc to feel satisfying.

And because she committed no crimes on a moral sense, there's no need to have her go out by sacrificing herself for the sake of one last good act. She had no sin to answer for.
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>>92736704
Well being the future emperor, you'd kind of hope that his point in living was his birthright and it's people he was fighting to save.
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>>92736778
I thought he was just in the first stage of grief. Once it really sinks in he's gonna be pretty fucked up.
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>>92736795
>Ashi wouldn't want him to die, though.
God fucking dammit...
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>>92736795
right, but that's literally just more duty to OTHERS. Jack has suffered enough for one lifetime. He just spent like 70+ years trying to fix what his dad should have fixed, now even more is being asked of him?

>>92736758
Yeah, that was Genndy's intent for sure. Honestly, he only added that to make the ending not completely a kick to the face to Jack, which would have seemed like the case had he cut out that last scene of Jack smiling. (which supposedly nullifies the fact that his friends from the future were erased along with his love????) The whole journey was a quest for the sake of others to begin with.

It really seems like Genndy just threw some throwbacks in at the end and the finale apologists ate it up. "ooooo he had a ladybug and a tree n shiet so deep wow"

Too bad Jack realistically should have 0 hope since he has no direction now; he just finished his quest. You can argue he can rebuild the kingdom or whatnot, but does he really have any sort of emotional connection to his father's kingdom?
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>>92736802
She had no sin, that's true. But she still wanted to save the world Jack loved so much and take him back to the land he could now only see in memories. She sacrificed herself for him, just to make him happy.
Ashi, for some reason, decided that Jack would be happier in his homeland than in the future with her.
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>>92736923
>Too bad Jack realistically should have 0 hope since he has no direction now; he just finished his quest. You can argue he can rebuild the kingdom or whatnot, but does he really have any sort of emotional connection to his father's kingdom?
Of course he does; that was the entire point of the first half of episode 9. To show how much he loves his home despite all the time that has gone by.
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>>92736827
Yeah that's the most obvious answer. but I would make a comparison to LOTR's ending. Given how heavy of a burden carrying the ring was for Frodo, there was no fucking chance he can just go back to a carefree, "ignorance is bliss" life in the Shire after his journey. I hardly think Jack can be asked to rule a whole kingdom just like that (at least Frodo's friends are all still alive).
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>>92736937
There's an old saying: those that focus on the past are blind to the future
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>>92736995
Except that final shot was meant to empathize that Jack had his sight on the future that awaited him and the rest of the world now that Aku was gone for good.
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>>92736937
hahaha yeah. And recall the line he used "actions reflect who you are" (paraphrased). Jack clearly believed that sparing Ashi's life was preferable to going back to the past by dropping his sword in ep 9
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>>92736964
I thought that was to set up the gravity of the decision between sparing ashi and going back to the past? he clearly chose the former.
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>>92737068
>Jack clearly believed that sparing Ashi's life was preferable to going back to the past by dropping his sword in ep 9
Except there was no choice to go back to the past. Literally, there were no portals left and he didn't know that Ashi could create them.
He didn't spare Ashi's life in favor of going back to the past, he let her live because he had lost the last loved one he had once more to Aku. He didn't want to kill her and would rather have died than doing so.
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>>92737101
> sparing ashi and going back to the past? he clearly chose the former.
I refer you this my other post >>92737145
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>>92736923
>right, but that's literally just more duty to OTHERS. Jack has suffered enough for one lifetime. He just spent like 70+ years trying to fix what his dad should have fixed, now even more is being asked of him?

That's bushido.
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>>92736937
>Ashi, for some reason, decided that Jack would be happier in his homeland than in the future with her.

She saw how much Jack hurt knowing he could never go to the past.
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>Jack loved Ashi so much he gave up his life and quest rather than hurt her even though she begged him to
>Ashi loved Jack so much she (probably knowingly) gave up her existence and give him back the world he fondly remembered
I don't think you just "move on" from something like that. There's a reason that tree at the end looked like half a heart.
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>>92737192
This. The samurai's way is to give everything for the sake of the the future of their people. EVERYTHING, even your happiness. Jack is a true samurai.
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>>92737145
Yep, you're right, sorry.

I still don't think Jack has any real reason to live, though.

>said nothing to parents after coming home
>"it was beautiful n shit" was his justification - no mention of the people he connected with or for whose sake he was fighting

if that was the only reason, jack will really hate the industrialization

Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but it really felt like an empty victory - that he was motivated more by duty than by any undying love for the people he's desperately trying to bring back.
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>>92737262
This discussion has given me an idea for a fic, I think. I figure that at some point Jack will be forced to receive potential spouses again. What if one was more interested in hearing about the 'true love' Jack had lost, having lost her own arranged fiancee during Aku's rule before she really got to know him or understand her feelings for him?
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>>92737367
There was duty, indeed. But the world was still a large and beautiful place to explore, full of kind and decent people to meet. Jack just has to keep moving forward. He he first came to the future he was completely alone and he became a hero in the end. There's no reason why he can't become one again in the past.
I wouldn't put it past him to wander the earth for a while to see the world in a new light saving people whenever they needed him.
This time, however, he has a home to come back to whenever he wants.
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This was a good thread.
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>>92737192
>>92737361

bushido is hilariously romanticized. their meaning of "honor" just means doing whatever the fuck the daimyo wants you to do, be it pillaging helpless villages or slaying his enemies in cold blood. Or even killing your own family to prove your loyalty.
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>>92737492
I wish he'd seen more romance between bearded Jack and Ashi. Thematically, I understand why Jack didn't get interested in Ashi romantically until he got the sword back.
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>>92737535
Honor and bushido were different. Same with chivalry. They were bastardized. At its roots, Bushido really is about compassion and honesty.
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>>92737535
Jack is romanticized.
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>>92737541
The chicks really seem to prefer him bearded, going by the drawfaggotry.
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>>92737555

source?
Dude you know that samurai originally came about as the enforcers of a feudal system right? Bushido was pulled out of someone's ass as a propaganda tool to fool the gaijin that medieval japan wasnt the total backwards shithole it was.
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>>92737480
Right, that's what Genndy is trying to imply at the end, that there was still hope.

>He he first came to the future he was completely alone and he became a hero in the end.
Yes, but he had a clear defined purpose at that point. Now he doesn't.

>Jack just has to keep moving forward.
I don't know about you, but if I erased all my friends from the past 50+ years and the love of my life, it would be pretty impossible to move on from that. And again, his journey is complete. people are resilient insofar as they have a clear end goal in mind - a dream, if you will. Without one, how could Jack recover from this shit?

Jack was able to overcome his suicidal thoughts in s5ep6 because Ashi reminded him that there's still hope for his goal - that he made progress in saving people of the future. Will there even be an epiphany of the same impact on Jack now that he's completed his quest? Who/what's there to save him now?

Also it's not like the world needs saving anymore. There are those warriors from around the world, the ones that taught him how to fight, who are around to keep it safe from non-Aku dangers.
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>>92737995
>Yes, but he had a clear defined purpose at that point. Now he doesn't.
He can still find a new purpose. Life doesn't just end when you reach one goal.
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>>92717070
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ashi is cute. c u t e,
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