YEAH SPIDER MAN!

>>92701734
More like Spider-Bitch! His pimp daddy doesn't even let him punch people!

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SPYDER MAN!!!!

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>>92701952
I realize now, I am that guy. I am the fat guy yelling 'Yeah Spyda Mayn'

Becasue I have been waiting for years to see a good Spider man movie, and it's finally
happening.

My boy has come home.

>>92703727
>Spider-Man Homecoming
>A good Spider-Man movie

Yeah, if by being everything Spider-Man isn't about is your idea of a good Spider-Man movie, sure

>>92701734
HA HA
SPIDERMAN
WHAT'S CRACKIN BABY

>>92703727
>Becasue I have been waiting for years to see a good Spider man movie, and it's finally happening.

Traveler! What reality are you from? Tell me how you managed to come to this Earth.

>>92703955
>it's not the same exact story that's been told a thousand times so therefore you can't like it and be a spiderman fan

>>92704307
Explain to me this story that's been told a thousand times.

Because I'm pretty sure as far as movies go there's just Raimi and Webb, which were both very different from each other.

>>92703727
>Becasue I have been waiting for years to see a good Spider man movie

spiderman has a generally consistent track record though

>>92703727
>Becasue I have been waiting for years to see a good Spider man movie, and it's finally
happening.
You should've just watched Spider-Man 2, then.
If you waited for this, you're bound to be disappointed.

>>92703955
>by being everything Spider-Man isn't
Elaborate.

>>92703727
>Becasue I have been waiting for years to see a good Iron Man movie, and it's finally happening.

>>92704330
Rami was fine but ultimately suffered from a bad romance plot which was the focus of most of the story and only the second one was good.

Webb was just bad, bad characterization, forced plot, terrible acting, and trying way to hard to make a multi movie franchise.

Bad Design

>>92703727
When Tony gives Peter the "great power" speech , and it's revealed Ben died in 9/11 or the invasion., come back to us and tell us how you feel.

>>92707152

But Peter already gave Tony the "With great power" speech

>>92707185
>>92707185

you have any facts about that

>>92707292

https://youtu.be/3OnOJSNktOs?t=2m12s

>>92701734
heh nobody is that exited for black super hero and never will

>>92707152
Peter already has the great power philosophy you mong, and he's still Spider-Man because he let Uncle Ben die.

>>92707152
Peter has clearly had the great power speech told to him already.
Just because he paraphrased it instead of saying it word for word doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>>92703727
>and it's finally happening.
Where?

>>92701734
I like this guy. I hope he cameos in every movie.

>>92703727
>My boy has come home.
yes he has

and that's all that matters

you fucking retard

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>>92701734
>This board when audiences enjoy this movie thoroughly.
I get the biggest laugh out of "N-not my 60's Spidey supporting characters."

>>92704350
Amazing Spider-Man was about as mediocre as it gets, and SM3 and ASM2 are both fucking trash.

>>92711406
SM3 is the most lacking of the trilogy, but it's still miles better than fucking TASM2

Spider Man doesnt interest me as a character

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>>92711067
I really don't get where you people come from...
You realize if something is popular, it only adds to contrarian nerd ammo under the basis that it's for normies, right?
The fact that pic related enjoys a movie does nothing but make it worse

>>92704307
>therefore you can't like it and be a spiderman fan
>spiderman

Well you're obviously not an actual fan.

>>92703727
I pity this fool.

Why does /co/ seem to hate on this movie? It looks to be one of the better spiderman movies to come out.

>>92711767
Spider-Man is an Avengers toy
The entire appeal of Spider-Man was that he was a lone hero with a secret identity living a dual life, who used his own ingenuity and smarts
Literally all of this has been taken away, so it fucking sucks

I thought that was a Tyler Perry cameo.
>>92711767
Because it looks even less polished than the previous 5 films. It doesn't look grand in scope, and the cinematography looks very basic. Everything about the film looks basic, including the fat friend doing the retarded fat friend shit.

yay spidey!

>>92704307
>>it's not the same exact story that's been told a thousand times so therefore you can't like it and be a spiderman fan
But...you have heard this story...plenty of times. It's Danny Phantom. It's Static Shock. It's literally every single fucking "Kid in high school with powers" story you've ever seen! Just because it's a different Spider-Man story because it omits characters doesn't mean it's a unique story.

>>92711791
He still has a duel life. Besides the best part of Spider-man has always been fighting bad guys and spitting out quips. That's literally all Spider-man needs.

>>92711767
Half of it is Raimifags, the other half is redditors that desperately want to finally put a loss in the Marvel column.

>>92704330
>Explain to me this story that's been told a thousand times.

Kid gets powers
Kid hides powers to keep everyone safe
Fat kid is a retard
Kid with powers is in love triangle for a girl out of his league
Kid eventually settles for weirder girl
Kid abuses power, faces consequence, has to earn his right back

It's a story you've been sold many times before with a fresh coat of paint. Why do people act like films and series outside the MCU don't exist. You've seen this story many, many times.

>>92711791
>lone hero with a secret identity living a dual life
He still seems to have one

>who used his own ingenuity and smarts
I have yet to see anything to the contrary. Before getting the new suit from Stark, he used his home made costume and web shooters

>>92711791
>Spider-man
>Lone hero
Yeah, the guy that first appeared in a team book, and rivals Wolverine and Deadpool (who he currently has a team up book with) is a real lone wolf.

>>92711475
It's really funny, because I really didn't hate SM3 at all. Sure, it was lackluster, but I don't see why it gets such venomous hate when there are clearly worst films out there.

>>92711767
I dislike the costume. It looks lifeless and it lacks most of the design elements I like of comic Spider-Man (large eye lenses, large chest emblem. I'm a monster who loves 90s comic Spidey).

Holland seems bland. He seems a bit more interesting than Maguire, but I liked Garfield, even if his movies have issues.

I don't want to see Iron Man 4 is the main reason, and this feels more like Iron Man 4 at this point.

>>92711845
>Half of it is Raimifags

None of which have ever actually read a comic book in their lives.

>>92711845
>Raimifags
What makes you think that? If anything in the recent years the anti-Raimi fanbase has only been growing, partially due to the TASM "totes like the comics" checklist convincing them Raimi's movies were never good. Raimi fans are chill

>>92711853
>Kid eventually settles for weirder girl

Still trying to keep up the Zendaya is a love interest meme, huh?

>>92711859
>the guy that first appeared in a team book

Uhh... wut?

Amazing Fantasy was not a team book you filthy fucking casual.

>>92711889
See what i meant >>92711886? These assholes almost make it look like liking the original trilogy is the unpopular opinion

In general Spiderman's threads are fucking insufferable. Nowhere else i see as much vitriol between fans about how the character or his stories are "supposed" to be

>>92711829
>He still has a duel life. Besides the best part of Spider-man has always been fighting bad guys and spitting out quips. That's literally all Spider-man needs.
Read a comic book fag
>>92711855
>Before getting the new suit from Stark, he used his home made costume and web shooters
You mean, before he had any screen time? Oh yeah, the new Spider-Man movie is great because he WAS like Spider-Man before he was actually introduced to the MCU!

Fuck off moron

>>92711859
Spider-Man didn't start off as part of the Fantastic Four
>>92711886
Neither have MCU fags, and I hate Raimifags, but they're the lesser cancer here, I'll take faggots who insists Spider-Man comics were always Adam West Batman levels of camp and think organic webbing should be canon over you fucking retarded shills

>>92711829
>Besides the best part of Spider-man has always been fighting bad guys and spitting out quips. That's literally all Spider-man needs.
And I have to stop your dumb ass right there.

This right here is why Spider-Man has sucked for so much of late. "Spider-Man needs to crack jokes" is the shittiest excuse to define a character. Outside the drive to help the small guy, or the constant guilt over Uncle Ben's Death, or his not wanting anyone to die personality traits, people keep focusing on "I saw a couple out of context panels of Spider-Man being funny therefore he must always be funny"

That's just the online looking glass. That's taking a trait you see cause funny pictures are always spread around online and people take a few out of context panels and say "Spider-Man must always be funny". Thing is, a lot of Spider-Man jokes don't work. How many times has he gone "You're crazy cause you're dressed up like a ________" gag? Like, has him calling someone crazy ever landed as a joke? It's like the Deadpool effect, where unfunny jokes seem like they are funnier because they are coming from Spider-Man.

This whole "Spider-Man only needs to be funny" shit needs to stop because it's a shitty excuse for bad writing. I remember a convention where the panelist praised Dan Slott's writing because "He's the only writer that remembers Spider-Man needs to be funny". This is why we got the Family Guy Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon. This is why we have a fandom that defines Spider-Man as an Avengers suck up.

This dismissal of all things Spider-Man for him to say something like "The Vulture? You better not poop on me!" is why we keep getting a more Flanderized Spider-Man.

>>92711929
>Spiderman
>Not a casual

You aren't fooling anyone.

>>92711903
Amazing Spider-man Number 1, holmes.
His own solo and the first thing he does is "hey here's a crossover!"

And Amazing Fantasy, as an anthology, is close enough.

>>92711891
She's on the fucking poster, is the only girl advertised, and even if she doesn't get with him in this film, they will by the second or third. This is Hollywood we're talking about.

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>>92711935
>I'll take faggots who insists Spider-Man comics were always Adam West Batman levels of camp and think organic webbing should be canon

Anon, -you're- the cancer on this board.

>>92711964
And she's actually secretly Mary Jane, right?

Face it. You guys have been doomsaying and grasping at obvious straws for so long that even if the movie does turn out to be shit you won't be taken seriously.

>>92711955
>Amazing Spider-man Number 1, holmes.

First off, not his first appearance.

Second off, ASM #1 was not a team book.

Try actually reading them.

>>92711964
>She's on the fucking poster
And? She's the only known kid star that isn't Tom Holland in the cast. She's famous as fuck with kids for being on the Disney Channel. Why wouldn't they promote that she is in the movie?

That does not in any way even suggest that she's a love interest.

>>92711991
team up. Typoed.

>>92711943
This, holy shit
"Fans" go up and down swearing the TASM movies are the most accurate movies ever because "at least Spiderman makes jokes", then you look at the movies and what happens? Peter sits on his ass for an hour just trying to crack jokes no matter the context

>I'm hunting down my uncle's killer, he's gonna pay for what he did...
>But for now let me waste 15 minutes on this random car thief. I bet he's gonna be so mad he got ownd, loool XD

>This crazy russian guy is driving a speeding truck through the city and doesn't care if he kills in the process!
>Better sit on his vehicle and try mock his life choices... oops, there goes a car and it's passengers. And another. And another...

I don't understand how people could have such a superficial view of the character. I mean, i understand, but I'd expect the board dedicated to fucking comics to be less casual than this

>>92703727
How much did Pascal pay you to write that?

>>92712011
>team up

You're still wrong. If you'd actually read the book, the entire issue is about how Spider-Man does NOT work in a team, you fucking mongoloid.

He goes to the Fantastic Four, demanding they accept him in their ranks and pay him. When they don't want to, he throws a fit and GTFOs out of the Baxter Building. The rest of the issue is spent having Peter bitch about how he doesn't need anyone else and just needs to take care of himself.

>>92712038
>Peter sits on his ass for an hour just trying to crack jokes no matter the context
If we're making shit up I also hate the fact that he makes out with Harry for 20 minutes.

>>92712053
>He goes to the Fantastic Four, demanding they accept him in their ranks and pay him. When they don't want to, he throws a fit and GTFOs out of the Baxter Building. The rest of the issue is spent having Peter bitch about how he doesn't need anyone else and just needs to take care of himself.
I like how this is basically going to be the plot of Homecoming but now it's unacceptable.

>>92711955
Even so, if Iron Man wasn't in this film, none of this film would even happen. Vulture exists to attack Peter, Peter wants to be on the Avengers, Tony takes away the suit for motivation, the film can't exist without the MCU's bubble.

And that's what makes this film feel tainted. It's saying "You can't watch this film on its own merits, you have to have watched Civil War and the Avengers first to understand everything going on" For the start of a new franchise, that's a really shitty way to present your first film.

>>92703727
>homo cumming
>good

fucking marvelfags man

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>>92711971
>tfw I just became aware how often this is still quoted after all this time along with "the hero we need"

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>all these people hating on this obviously great movie
don't you idiots know by now THIS. MEAN. GREATNESS. and Spiderman Homecoming has it

>>92712068
Anon, most people are too dense to even grasp a basic plot, even when its spelled out for the viewer in the trailer.

>>92712045
Earmuffs

Let's just leave it at that.

>>92711767
It looks like ass. Especially compared to Wonder Woman. I can't believe I'm actually saying this. A DCEU movie looks better than a MCU movie for once.

Also

>Spider Man saving the world
>Awkward spazzy Peter dialed up to 11
>Iron Manlet
>Manlet pajeet Flash
>Zendaya
>NINE writers
>Less than two years of production time
>Sony

>>92711955
>And Amazing Fantasy, as an anthology, is close enough.

Yeah, no.

I don't think you know what the word "anthology" means.

Amazing Fantasy was a book where each issue had multiple stories. All set in the same universe, but otherwise self-contained.

This includes Spider-Man. At no point his introduction does he ever "team up" with anyone.

>90s fartoon Spidey
>Not allowed to punch
>People love the show

>MCU Spidey
>Not allowed to punch
>People bitch all day about it

I don't get it

>>92712056
>What is hyperbole

I made my examples, dude

https://youtu.be/4_23t4NzAMk
>Peter wasting 3 minutes fucking around with a thief and a cop when according to the plot he's supposed to be emotionally invested in finding his uncle's killer

https://youtu.be/wXM3GK--nhM
>Peter too invested in mocking Alexei to actually stop him, ignoring the cars and bystanders he's running over except for Dillon because the plots requires that one
Refer to 2:22 in particular

>>92711513
Hey now, prostitutes and porn stars have just as much right to like a movie as you do

>>92712145
SHIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL

>>92711986
>>92712009
Am I dealing with 12 year olds?!

What is her role going to be if not the eventual love interest?! Hell, fucking cartoons should have taught you that a man and woman can't exist together without eventually hooking up. Kim Possible, Samurai Jack, Danny Phantom, and this is a fucking Superhero film! Not only that, but the most cliche Superhero this side of Marvel! WHY WOULDN'T SPIDER-MAN GET A GIRLFRIEND?!

>>92712068
>I like how this is basically going to be the plot of Homecoming but now it's unacceptable.
The Fantastic Four didn't create Peter's Suit, and Peter isn't fighting a FF Villain. And the major difference here is we know Spider-Man will be in the Avengers next year.

>>92711935
>Hates levity
>Anyone that defends this is a "retarded shill".
Hm. Now where have I heard this rhetoric before?

>>92712191
BECAUSE IT'S 2017 AND LIKE CAP SPIDERMAN NEEDS A BOYFRIEND

>>92712209
>The Fantastic Four didn't create Peter's Suit
Peter's first suit wasn't created by Stark. Stark creates his second suit. Peter goes back to, or makes yet another in this movie.
>and Peter isn't fighting a FF Villain
The Vulture is a Spider-man villain.
>We know Spider-man will be in the Avengers next year
Yes because Spider-man NEVER teams up with anybody. He's completely isolated in his corner of the universe.

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>>92712122
Yeah! This film is gonna prove that Spider-Man is too good for the Avengers! After this film that is Spider-Man relying entirely on the MCU, he's going to break free and become his own character! He's most certainly going to be too good for the Avengers.

>>92712191
>Peter will have a girlfriend! Movie ruined!
What the fuck are you even whining about?

>>92712164
I've never actually seen the second one but Jesus it might be worse than everyone said it was

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>>92712240

>>92712244
this
It's like /co/ people are retarded or something

>>92703727
yah I guess this is as good as its gonna get. I mean really I just wanted spiderman tp be apart of something bigger. Him being stand alone movies just made it hard to enjoy it because of Sony trying to hang on to the rights.

>>92712288
this

no one wants to see a stand alone superhero movie

>>92712244
A) You mean that shitty hoodie outfit that was replaced by Spider-Man's ICONIC look? You can try to distance it, but Tony Stark made THE Spider-Man look in the MCU. You know, the look that makes Spider-Man popular.
B) Vulture is going after Stark and Pete is just a distraction.
C) A franchise that relies entirely on the existence of another franchise is not a good premise for a franchise. Say what you will about the other MCU films, but at least they establish their heroes on their own first. Spider-Man's entire purpose in this film relies solely on Tony and the Avengers. You ever played that LOTR game where you're the group following the Fellowship of the Ring? Why should I be interested in a film where the hero is bottom bitch to other heroes.
>>But he'll break away
Infinity Wars clearly proves you're wrong.

>>92712259
The fact that so many people are in denial that this film will be as straightforward as it presents itself. Like, this is a kid showing his parents a cartoon and trying to explain to them it's deeper than they think when it plays up the same troupes.

People on here are denying that Zendaya's character won't be Peter's love interest, when it's the most blatant choice. A film where Peter is in a love triangle for a girl out of his league and he doesn't win her heart and then finds out the quirky girl he's been ignoring has been right for him? In a High School setting?

You all are acting like this film is going to blow minds if Zendaya isn't Peter's girlfriend, when it's the most obvious plot in this film, and if not in this film, the next film.

Is this the movie that will finally destroy /co/ if it turns out to be good?

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>>92712332
You say that as if the comics never offered an alternative ebooks explanation as to why a teenager managed to put together such an elaborate suit

And about the franchise part, it's not about Spiderman HAVING to rely on the MCU, they're just trying to offer something different after 3 great solo movies and 2 mediocre to bad ones. What, you think when people said "we want Spisey to be part of the MCU!" they meant they wanted him to brood about how alone he is but this time with the Avengers tower in the background just to acknowledge it's the MCU? Plus it drives home the point this isn't Sonyverse

>>92712382
yes how ever will /co/ be able to handle an MCU movie being good


If JL turned out to be good THAT would destroy /co/ but that's impossible

>>92712382
It doesn't matter if it's good or not, the normies who have migrated here spam the shit out of the board calling every MCU movie "good"

Just because newfags on /co/ say something is good doesn't mean it's good

>>92712412
>calling every MCU movie "good"
because every MCU movie IS good

>>92712392
But that's the thing. The MCU already relies on Tony Stark too much to drive everything, and this film is an over reliance on Tony. Let's say this is a Black Panther film that has at the most pivotal moment, Captain America and Bucky Barnes saving T'Challa's skin. Wouldn't that be insanely disappointing for BP to become Cap's bitch? And that's what Spider-man is in this film, Tony and the Avengers' bitch.

No matter how hard you claim it's going to be Spider-Man's breakaway to be his own man, he's still going to be in the Avengers after this, being the dumbass "Woah, this is all so cool Mr. Stark".

In other words, people didn't want Spider-Man in the MCU, they wanted a little suckup telling you how great the MCU is.

>>92712191
>What is her role going to be if not the eventual love interest?!

Just another kid in the school, to, you know, make it actually feel like a school. I know, what a shocking concept. Have actual named characters in your cast, instead of a bunch of random faces.

>>92712209
>and Peter isn't fighting a FF Villain
What does this have to do with anything?

Peter didn't fight an FF villain in ASM #1 either. You'd know that if you'd actually bother reading the issue.

>>92712505
I don't understand your implication that Spiderman learning to be his own hero should mean that he'll never hook up with the Avengers again if needed

>>92712246
Case in point, this dense motherfucker.

>>92712365
Anon people aren't denying she won't be the love interest. They're denying she's Mary Jane.

>>92712514
>>Just another kid in the school.
>>Who is a massive Disney Channel actress
>>Who was the second actor revealed for the film
>>Who is on the fucking poster
>>She's just another school kid

HOLY FUCK, you're in denial!
>>92712531
AND YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED! The Vulture in this film is going after Tony Stark, and Spider-Man intervenes!
>>92712537
So this film is entirely redundant. What's the point of watching it if Spider-man is going to be the same at the end of Civil War to the start of Infinity War?

>>92712601
No, he's going after Tony Stark's shit and then Spidey intervenes. It's no different than robbing a bank

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>>92712554
POINT
>
>
>
>
>
Your head!

Holy fuck how retarded are you guys?!
>>92712600
I never fucking said she was Mary Jane! I said shes going to be Peter's Girlfriend in this franchise.

>>92712332
>You mean that shitty hoodie outfit that was replaced by Spider-Man's ICONIC look?
Where? Peter's iconic look doesn't have a bunch of black bars all over the place.
>B) Vulture is going after Stark and Pete is just a distraction.
How is that different from usual? Vulture always starts out trying to get the guy that screwed him out of work and then Peter comes in as a third party to stop him.

The only people who are going to like this movie are non Spider-Man fans, but MCU fans, and we all know MCU fans are not Marvel Comics fans

Go fucking figure

>>92712621
>In this franchise

How apocalyptic. Peter is famous for his many girls and you think they're going to hook him up forever to a literally who?

>>92712621
Yes, anon, and other people have been insisting she's actually Mary Jane for months because they want shit to bitch about.

That's a separate point from how how you're whining because "Oh no Peter gets a love interest!" when Bitches Love Spider-Man was a meme for years for a reason

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>>92712632
>Where? Peter's iconic look doesn't have a bunch of black bars all over the place.

Please tell me you're joking.

And the thing is, that would be fine, BUT it's already putting Tony and the Avengers on a hierarchy. This film is basically a giant blinking advertisement for the Avengers.

>>92712365
>People on here are denying that Zendaya's character won't be Peter's love interest

Literally nothing that has been presented to us thus far even suggests it.

The -only- reason anyone thinks that is because of a rumor started by a known liar (Umberto Gonzalez from the website Heroic Hollywood) started a rumor that she is MJ, purely to generate clicks for the site he works for.

Nothing else even hints at that. In fact, there is more info supporting the fact that she -isn't- going to be a love interest. People keep claiming that Homecoming is going to pull a She's All That and have the freak girl suddenly become gorgeous at the dance. But that has already been disproven, as we've seen what Zendaya's character looks like during the dance.

So go ahead, keep whining about things that anyone with half a brain has already seen is false. You'll feel pretty fucking stupid when the movie finally comes out and Zendaya isn't a love interest.

>>92712659
so's every other one but they're still great

>>92712659
Please tell me you've got brain damage and that's why you can't remember all the NOT MUH pre-civil war at Peter's costume then.

Or is it that now the Civil War suit is Iconic because you need something to bitch impotently about?

>>92712651
>Peter is famous for his many girls and you think they're going to hook him up forever to a literally who?
We are talking about Sony here.
>>92712652
No, I'm arguing to the people who are in denial that Zendaya's character is the love interest of the film. Why would they heavily market Zendaya in this film so much if she's just a random school kid? She's on the poster, she's been in interviews with Holland, she's practically billed more so than Aunt May in this film. Saying she won't be Peter's eventual love interest puts too much faith in this industry.

>>92712701
The creative process is as far as we know all Disney

Not that it matters anyway, both Sony's versions tried to add multiple girls, just did it awkwardly

>>92712601
>AND YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED!

That's some rage you got brewin'.

Keep it up, turd nugget. I hope you flip out in the theater like this, after seeing how wrong you are about all this stuff.

>>92712672
AND YOU AREN'T READING ANYTHING THAT I'M SAYING!

I'm saying that if not in this film, most likely the next film because she's the highest billed female character in the film! You think they're going to put her and Holland in all those dance offs and shit if she's just a random school character?! Then what is her point if she's just another classmate?!

HOLY SHIT, are you even reading what you're saying?! THEN WHY GO OVERBOARD TO PRESENT ZENDAYA IN THIS FILM IF SHE HAS NO PURPOSE?!

Give me a solid fucking reason why they've shilled Zendaya so hard if she has NOTHING to do with the plot?!
>>92712674
THOR THE DARK WORLD. Nuff Said.
>>92712678
YOU
ARE
THE
RETARD!

Nobody looks at the Homemade costume and says "Yep! That's the iconic Spider-Man look!" NO! That's to say "HA HA! Peter is a fucking retard dresssing like a retard! Sugar Daddy Tony is hooking him up!"
TONY STARK GAVE PETER THE SPIDER-MAN SUIT! That's the fucking point we're stressing! BUt apparently you all go Chris-Chan "BUT THE ARMS AREN'T BROWN!" because of fucking BLACK BANDS and act like it's a completely different Spider-Man costume

HOLY SHIT, I've never dealt with a bigger bunch of retards than the Spider-Man fans in this thread!

What's up with the shilling ITT? This movie looks like shit, even in facebook normies are shitting on the posters and the trailers.

>>92712382
Suicide Squad winning an Oscar before the MCU 15 movies in and cucking Doctor Strange and Winter Soldier destroyed /co/ already. You're seeing the corpse

>>92712765
>AND YOU AREN'T READING ANYTHING THAT I'M SAYING!

Oh, I'm reading. You're just painfully wrong. But please, keep using those caps. Sure makes you look cool.

Can you supply some actual hard evidence from something in the trailer that suggests she'll be a love interest? No? Alright then, shut the fuck up.

>>92712766
Sure they are

>>92712728
BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE BEING THE DENSEST SHITS EVER!

Everything about this film spells cliche and relying on the MCU to sell it, and you act like Spider-Man going "Not fat retard friend, I don't talk to spiders" will warrant this a masterpiece

This is a 2 reboot for a franchise that's not trying to do anything different than have Peter suck Iron Man's cock, and I HIGHLY doubt that I will go "Man, that film was better than Logan and GOTG 2" this year because retard Fagger-Man made a Birdman reference.

>>92712766
>REEEEEEEEE STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

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>>92712794
>>92712799
Enjoy those cents, you earned them

>>92712795
>Everything about this film spells cliche and relying on the MCU to sell it, and you act like Spider-Man going "Not fat retard friend, I don't talk to spiders" will warrant this a masterpiece

No one in this thread has claimed its going to be a masterpiece.

Personally, I'm just drawing issue with your prolonging the meme that Zendaya is a love interest.

Jon Watts has made a big point to talk about how he wanted the school elements to feel real and believable and he specifically hired kid actors who he thought did good jobs during the casting call, even inventing new roles for them, just to help flesh out the school setting. He doesn't want a bunch of random nameless faces. He wants a school with identifiable characters that Peter interacts with. Thus, Michelle.

>>92712793
I guess she's not the love interest. I guess she's just a random bitch

It's not like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDndYRn5sgo

http://www.justjared.com/2017/05/07/zendaya-tom-holland-debut-new-spider-man-homecoming-clip-watch-now/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/next-gen-2016-portraits-spider-man-homecoming-stars-zendaya-tom-holland-945130

These two are constantly used in photo ops together or taking interviews together.

Nope, Zendaya must surely be a completely random classmate who has NO BARING on Spider-Man's story.

Retard.

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>>92711791
>Spider-Man is an Avengers toy

>>92712867
Yeah, its not like Tom and Zendaya became friends in real life while filming. Gasp! What a shocker! That has never happened in the history of cinema!

And, what's that!? Sony/Marvel wants to promote a well known young actress!? One who already has an established fanbase in younger demographics!? The horror! Who would possibly do something like that?!

>>92712858
And you're the moron who bought that. A film, staring teenagers, involving a Homecoming Dance, and a love triangle, with a stranger kookier girl, with constantly John Hughes vibes, and she's NOT going to be the love interest?! Well pat yourself on the back for being right...for one film. Even Pepper Potts got wet for Tony after the first film. Sharon Carter who had a non-role in the Cap film got Cap in Civil War

You have toooooo much faith in the industry if you think they won't get together.

>>92712867
It's so obvious she's going to be his love interest it's not even funny, you should reply to that guy anymore it's obvious he's baiting

>>92712914
Still waiting for you to find something (anything, really) in a trailer or screenshot from the film that even suggests she's a love interest. Hurry up.

>>92712905
I give up. I'm wasting my time at this point. Go watch this Spider-Man, call it he best thign ever, then in 2 years start to hate the fuck out of it claiming Spider-Man needs to be funnier.

>>92712929
*shouldn't

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>>92712933
BOOM!

Defend yourself, faggot.

>>92701734
CREEP! LEAVE THOSE GIRLS ALONE!

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>>92712914
>...for one film

I love how that's your out.

>She wasn't the love interest in the first film? SEE! I was totally right! It'll be in the second one!

Holy fuck Spideyfags are the biggest cape autists on the planet.

>>92712953
You mean how she isn't dolled up like everyone says? And how he is paying attention to Liz Allen?

...how is this proof?

>>92712967
May I direct you towards
>>92712953

That's a pretty clear heartbroken Zendaya. But I'm sorry, please tell me how this Spider-Man film is going to break all troupes and surpass the already predictable plot in place?

>>92712991
That's true, i completely forgot how everyone was swearing she was coming out redheaded at the dance

>street level spidey movie for fucking once where instead of his super arch nemesis trying to murder everyone he knows or New York blowing up its a plane being stolen

>this is a bad thing because it has too much tony stark

>>92713004
But she's totally 100% gonna be MJ, right? There's just so much proof, after all.

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>>92712991
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!
ARE YOU GOD DAMN, FUCKING YOUR CAT RETARDED?!
Have you been born yesterday?!
Did you just discover what movies are?!
Are you a fucking Chinese moviegoer who pushes each Transformers film past a billion dollars?!

HOW IS IT NOT CLEAR AS THE INSIDE OF YOUR SKULL THAT IT ISN'T ZENDAYA BEING HEART BROKEN THAT PETER DIDN'T NOTICE HER?!

LIKE HOLY FUCK
That's it! I'm out! I can't argue with literal retards anymore!

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>>92713019
>>this is a bad thing because it has too much tony stark
Damn straight

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>>92713051
>being this mad

Like I said, I hope you lose your shit like this while in the theater.

I can't wait for you to pull the
>Fuck. I was wrong. Just you wait! I'll be right for the sequel!

>>92713101
You can make the same argument about MJ in the first Spider-man film, to be honest. Zendaya is Spider-Man's endgame in this universe.

>>92713051
>Are you a fucking Chinese moviegoer who pushes each Transformers film past a billion dollars?!

Are you trying to imply that a single Chinese moviegoer pushed the movie past a billion? That would be pretty impressive.

>>92713051
>Are you a fucking Chinese moviegoer
Dude, that's racist.

tfw you stop caring about whether or not /co/ likes a movie or not

>>92713117
>You can make the same argument about MJ in the first Spider-man film, to be honest.

Except she and Peter hook up at the end of the movie... until they don't at the funeral.

There is a budding romance throughout the whole movie. Homecoming doesn't even suggest that Zendaya's character is a romantic interest.

>>92713136
I mean, I couldn't give two shits whether not /co/ likes a movie I like. I just come here to watch autists throw hilarious temper tantrums about minute details.

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>>92701734
>YEAH SPIDER MAN

>>92713145
>Homecoming doesn't even suggest that Zendaya's character is a romantic interest.
Have we've been watching the same trailers?

>>92713204
>Have we've been watching the same trailers?

Yes? Please cite a scene in a trailer that suggests they'll romantically involved.

>>92711853
But Peter /does/ end up with the girl that's out of his league...

>>92713218
>Yes? Please cite a scene in a trailer that suggests they'll romantically involved.
"What are you hiding Peter?"

>>92713223
Anon, the person you're responding to has never read a comic in their life. Can't expect them to know basic things about Spider-Man.

>>92713199
I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT

>>92713118
Well SOMEONE had to buy the ticket that pushed it over a billion, and statistically it was probably a Chinaman.

>>92713233
>"What are you hiding Peter?"

Which is immediately followed by "Just kidding. I don't care" as she goes back to whatever she was doing.

I know, shocking that a fellow classmate would give someone a hard time. No one has ever done that before, unless they wanted to fuck.

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>>92713249
>What are you hiding Peter, hmmmmm?

>Why do you give a shit?

>>92704684
Spider-Man, at his core, is about a character who is trying to atone for his sins. By refusing to mention Uncle Ben's death, that's gone.

Also, teenage Peter was defined by his struggle to make sense of what exactly responsibility was, and struggling with the wrong options clouding his mind. This version of Spider-Man doesn't seem to have that going for him.

The concept of Spider-Man is a character who grows and deals with real shit. Knowing Marvel, they'll try to keep him in high school as long as possible.

The best Spider-Man stories are defined by dark shit that happens in an atmosphere that it really shouldn't, with Spider-Man refusing to give up on his morals. By being hesitant toward dark tones, this movie doesn't have that.

Spider-Man, as a character, is a loner. He's the Superman of street level crime. He can't be hanging around with the Avengers because he's a local character, who's not above helping anyone, no matter how trivial their problems are.

Say what you want about how this movie wants to "differentiate itself", but the fact of the matter is that this movie isn't about Spider-Man. It's about MCU-Man

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>>92707152
>Ben died in 9/11 because Peter didn't use his powers to help
Is Raimi ghostdirecting this movie?

>>92713353
>By refusing to mention Uncle Ben's death, that's gone.

They've already mentioned it. Its already been confirmed to be a theme throughout the movie.

Just because they aren't actively showing it, doesn't mean it isn't a thing.

Did you just completely miss Peter's monologue during Civil War?

>>92713249
>>92713252
You don't joke around with a guy in a film unless you want in his pants.

>>92713391
Nope. Sony said they wouldn't mention it because it clashes with the tone they're going for.

>Did you just completely miss Peter's monologue during Civil War?

"When you don't act, bad things happen."

That's super vague and could mean anything.

>>92713431
>That's super vague and could mean anything.

You know goddamn well what it means. And the writers know you know what it means. Stop pretending to be an idiot.

As for Uncle Ben in Homecoming:

>“They talk about that, absolutely. It’s not… it’s not a huge thing that I want to go into too much, but there is an acknowledgment that there was a Ben.”

>“I mean, we’re implying he’s dead. We have not at all, again, gone into trying to change his origin story as far as I have been envisioning it. But we, just again, we thought that to keep this fun, light tone, as soon as they have to have their, like, ‘Let’s remember our dearly departed father figure’ – it derails that a little. And again, what we’re trying to tell is this sort of fun story of the kid who is doing all the wrong things for the right reasons. And once you do that, it stops becoming a sort of sun movie about a kid trying to be a kid. He’s mourning the loss of a parent.”

http://screenrant.com/spider-man-homecoming-uncle-ben-peter-parker/

So yeah, its talked about in the movie, just not shown. Its just not a huge focus, though, because we've already seen that story play out. Twice. And everyone knows you already know the story of Uncle Ben's death.

>>92713346
>What are you hiding in your pants, Peter? Hmmmmm?

>>92713488
I know it was meant to be Uncle Ben retard, but they kept it vague for a reason. Because they want to seperate themselves from it as much as possible. Like they said, they think it'll distract.

They're not saying he's dead, they're implying. Best we'll get is Aunt May saying some shit like "When your Uncle left us." And never bring it up again. Which is bad, considering that's his whole motive.

>>92713548
>I know it was meant to be Uncle Ben

And that's all that is needed. You knew -exactly- which lines I was referring to when I brought up the monologue. And the writers knew you would.

Are you honestly telling me you want to see a third movie focusing on Ben's death? Why?

Everyone already knows Peter's origin story. Lets move on and see something new. That's what this movie is doing. Its referencing things people already know about and saying, "Yeah, that happened." and then moving on and exploring new territory.

I don't know about you, but I do not want -another- Spider-Man origin story in a movie.

>>92713601
>Are you honestly telling me you want to see a third movie focusing on Ben's death? Why?

No, but outright trying to ignore it as much as possible because it's "too dark" is a bad sign. It's his motive, you don't have to have the movie be about it in order to have it be an aspect. Not every Batman movie is about his dead parents, but in every movie it's known he's doing what he's doing because of them.

Regardless, the other shit I said is still valid.

>>92713663
>No, but outright trying to ignore it as much as possible because it's "too dark" is a bad sign.

Its not. The movie is actively acknowledging it and moving on. There is a difference.

>Regardless, the other shit I said is still valid.
Such as? Shall I pull your other points apart, too?

>>92713663
>Not every Batman movie is about his dead parents

Aren't they, though? That's Bruce's defining characteristic. The fact that he cannot get over his parent's death.

>>92713663
Saying it doesn't fit the tone or general theme doesn't mean they're ignoring it because it's too dark. Like, think of TASM2 and how ultimately meaningless Gwen's death was, they brushed off the whole grief with a single montage. This movie is basically avoiding that

>Aunt May, I'm so angry and sad uncle Ben is gone... anyway, back to the homecoming dance party!

Not saying a better writer/director wouldn't have been able to balance things out. Raimi did. But you're twisting this all for the sake of your shitposting

>>92713681
>Its not. The movie is actively acknowledging it and moving on. There is a difference.

No, they're not actively acknowledging it. They're going to give it a backhand reference and move on. Did you even read the article you posted?

>Such as? Shall I pull your other points apart, too?

That would imply you pulled apart this one. Which you didn't.
>>92713720

> That's Bruce's defining characteristic. The fact that he cannot get over his parent's death.

Much like how Peter can't get over the fact that he caused the death of his Uncle.

>>92713756
>Much like how Peter can't get over the fact that he caused the death of his Uncle.

Right, because he never ever develops as a character in the entirety of the nearly 800 issues of ASM (and countless ancillary books), right?

>>92713741
But this is exactly my point though. They're trying to avoid the fact that a character died as much as possible because it doesn't fit the tone of the movie. So you lose the aspect of Peter's motives.

>Not saying a better writer/director wouldn't have been able to balance things out. Raimi did. But you're twisting this all for the sake of your shitposting

Raimi didn't do that though. Hell, he spent an entire movie dedicated to Ben's death.

>>92713780
>Right, because he never ever develops as a character in the entirety of the nearly 800 issues of ASM (and countless ancillary books), right?

Only when he became an adult and gained new things to fight for. Things you can't have him fight for as a teenager because it wouldn't make sense. Like his wife, and that kid dying in the hospital.

>>92713663
Nah let's go full Martha with it. Have him get shot in slow motion and then flash back to it again in the finale. That's the only way we'll get Spider-kino.

>>92713783
>So you lose the aspect of Peter's motives.

Wrong. They've already established in Civil War that the entire reason he took up the Spider-Man mantle (and continues to do so) is because of Ben's death. Its an overarching theme. Regardless of if they put a huge emphasis on it or not.

>>92713809
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is what >>92713663 wants to happen.

>>92713783
I meant in two when May is still crying about it

>>92713783
>Hell, he spent an entire movie dedicated to Ben's death.

None of the three movies Raimi made were /dedicated/ to Ben's death. Are you from a parallel universe or something?

>>92713824
>They've already established in Civil War

As vaguely as possible on purpose.

> (and continues to do so)

They say in the damn article that they want too avoid it as much as possible because of the tone. It's literally just going to be a backhand comment.

>>92713863
>It's literally just going to be a backhand comment.

Yeah, not unlike it is in a lot of Raimi's movies, too.

So yes, you want the movies to go full "Martha!", huh?

>>92713861
The first one retard. His death was an over arching theme that was spread throughout the rest of the movie.

Or were you too autistic to pick up the focus on how everyone was talking about fatherhood throughout the film. /Especially/ the shit with Osborn.

>>92713880
Did you even watch the Raimi films? They spent an entire movie dedicated to it. By the time the second movie came around they had Parker looking for other motives (love life), which you can only really have with a more adult Peter, which is why having high school Parker is fucking stupid.

>>92713892
>The first one retard.

That's wrong, though. A portion of the movie was about Ben's death, absolutely. But the entire movie was not dedicated to it.

The movie was about Peter discovering what it means to be a hero. The majority of the movie was post-Ben's death and was more about his conflict with Green Goblin, both physically and morally.

But please, keep living in your alternate reality.

>>92713921
Re watch the fucking movie. There's an emphasis about what it means to be a father figure in that film. Calling back to the shit with Ben and ultimately leading up to Parker saying "I had a father, his name was Ben."

>>92713921
Not that anon, but he's kinda right. Even during the final fight they're talking about fathers

>Peter, i was like a father to you!
>I already have a father, his name is Ben Parker

But yeah, as you said, it's just one of the major pieces of the puzzle. It arguably all goes back to Ben, but still

>>92713986
>it's just one of the major pieces of the puzzle

This. There are several themes explored throughout the film. Father figures is just one. The entire movie is not completely dedicated to exploring that one idea, though.

>>92711767
Because it's not Spider-Man. It's just another generic MCU movie that's just there to make money and tie into Infinity War

>>92714253
elaborate on "Because it's not Spider-Man"

>>92713238
Very cool.

>>92714253
>Because it's not Spider-Man
Its a lot closer to the source material than Raimi/Maguire's movies ever were, at least regarding Peter's personality.

>>92714561
I know the shitposters end up pushing in certain corners, but you don't need to shit on Raimi just to prove to them Homecoming is worthwhile

>>92714618
>but you don't need to shit on Raimi

I don't like the Raimi movies much, though. So I'll shit on them all I want.

They're very poor adaptations of the source material and completely miss the entirety of Peter's characterization. The character Maguire plays is so dissimilar to the source material, that it might as well be an entirely different character.

Holland's interpretation is much, much closer to what was in the source material (leaning a bit closer to the Earth-1610 Peter than 616, but with aspects of both. Which is true for a large portion of the MCU).

>>92714561
>Its a lot closer to the source material than Raimi/Maguire's movies ever were
You mean Raimi accurately portraying the entire Spider-Man origins?

>>92714683
But, well, he didn't.

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>>92712118
No it hasn't. It has this.

>>92707152

Except MCU Peter Parker is 15 which means he was born in '02 you fucking retard