Is the iceman book flopping? Please tell me it is

We need to rid marvel of this homo trash!

>>92701383
Was it publised already?

>>92701419
I haven't been following the release schedule. I just checked on twitter and supposedly it's on its 4th issue now.

>>92701383
Straight sells more

>>92701488
I think they're just messing with you, man. If it was already on the 4th issue, we would have heard of it by now.

Realistically, we probably won't see Bobby straight again for another 4 or 5 yrs, I think they'll keep a lot of the feminism and race diversity but they're gonna slow down on the gay stuff eventually. I can feel it.

>>92701488
>I just checked on twitter and supposedly it's on its 4th issue now.
Fucking impossible, man.

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>>92701741
So what does this mean exactly? (Seriously I'm new to comics)

>>92701760
Actually the other way around.

>>92701801
comics are solicited three months in advanced anon, they release the cover and a synopsis so people can pre-order. That just came out yesterday.

>>92701848
Noooope. Gays may be loud but regardless of race or our feelings on feminism, as straights we outnumber them. Marvel wouldn't dare.

>>92701801
The cover. As in the literal cover of what the 4th issue will look like, which is something that has to get released 3 months before it comes out because it's part of the solicitations that comic shops use to order their comics.

>>92701916
>>92701880
Ah, makes sense. Thanks anons! Let's keep the discussion though, I really want to know how everyone feels about homo iceman and when do you think marvel will fix him?

Iceman has a comic series?

>>92701887
Dude they been shoving faggots down our troats for decades. I rember the 90s not having much diversity or feminism. Diversity is the fad and most women aren't feminists.

But ellen, northstar, gay themes in image comics, faggot porn, faggot movies.Sexual degenerates always win.

Whores, abortion.

>>92701963
Holy shit anon lmao I just hate homo iceman because I like the character and I'm forced to notice the bullshit they pulled with him.

I can ignore all that other gay shit in pop culture, don't watch much tv anyways.

>>92701801
I thought Daken was dead.
I hope this Iceman is taking place in the past,which would make it before he was gay. So it's definitely not taking place in the past. Which means Daken is probably be back from the dead...damn it. And Since Daken is bi they probably brought him back just to hook up with Ice Man...DAMN IT! But maybe, he'll have some appearances in Laura's book, maybe they'll team up and kill Jimmy...Fingers crossed

>>92701956
I really don't give a fuck about him being gay. I wish they would have just made him bi to avoid all the controversy over the change though, but obviously that was intentional since they thrive on controversy.

>>92701963
As a straight black reader I just wanna see more black characters, interracial propaganda, and some cool comics

But the gay shit has got to go senpai.

>>92701801
Who the hell is John??

>Iceman is just now getting his own solo
They need to bring back X-Factor with Gambit,Polaris and Quicksilver.

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>>92701957
Not yet. First issue comes out in June. Doesn't sound too interesting. Daken is going to be in issue 4 though.

>>92702065
>back from the dead
I don't remember Daken dieing in Wolverines. He just lost his arm.

>>92702158
so are they going to pair him with daken? doesn't he have emotional manipulating powers like teenbobby's bf had? are they trying to tell us something?

>>92702072
Ya know, had they made him bi I probably would still be mad but slightly okay with the change (because then you can just say the writers are focusing a lot on his heterosexual side) but this all the way gay stuff? Ugh.

>>92702065
Daken came back with the apocalypse twins as a horsemen of death with grim reaper, Banshee, and Sentry. As a side note: Daken and Sentry have been on teams together on 2 separate occasions.

>>92702109
He's The Maverick.

>>92702200
Welcome to what happens when a character gets BENDIS'd.

>>92702072
>>92702234

I don't think Bendis believes in bi-people
>>92702133
Gambit is in the new Astonishing X-men book (with Psylock, Bishop, Mystique, and others), but it is written by Soule and the last X-men thing he did was make Emma Craaaazy.

>>92702203
Well, I'm not thrilled about him being back, but here's to him gutting Jimmy one day, pretty please.
>Daken and Sentry have been on teams together on 2 separate occasions.
Osborn?

>>92701488
>supposedly it's on its 4th issue now.
Haven't even seen a story time yet.

I see any book that doesn't get a stroytime within a week as failing. Like Spiderman 2099.

>>92702158
>Daken is going to be in issue 4 though.
Calling it now, they will have gay sex.

>>92702234
Tbh I'm conflicted, I love Bendis for pushing interracial couples in comics in a positive light but all this gay shit's gotta stop. Only homo's are truly resonating with it and they're the minority's in this case way more than blacks are.

>>92702332
It's not out yet. OP is new to comics and doesn't know how solicitations or the concept of a "cover" work.

>>92702369
We can only hope.

>>92701488
You saw the 4th issue solicit. It hasn't come out yet at all.

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>>92702332
Reminder that no one bothered to storytime Luke Cage #1 last week.

Dead on arrival.

>>92702369
Hopefully in the X-mansion

>>92702496
rip PM-IF anon?

>>92702496
Lol so? Marvel will keep pushing him because of his recent successful Netflix series and Defenders.

>>92701957
Yea and based on the solicits, it's all about how gay he is now. They aren't even hiding that that's all there is to him now

>>92702731
You realize how all the gay pushing comics all have shitty "cute boy" art styles? Smh they've truly ruined him.

>>92702542
He was alive recently. I think he was running Dark Avengers a week or two ago. He took a long break to play Persona 5, and didn't want people to spoil stuff during his storytimes.

>>92702803
>ruined him
It's fucking Iceman. Who cares about Iceman?

>>92702496
>this is an actual thing
>I haven't heard about till now because Marvel is THAT FUCKING SHIT at advertising

>>92702855
Agreed.

>>92702828
Well I for one care less about him than I already did considering that now everything with him is about how gay he is now rather than his actual personality

>>92702855
I knew they wold publish a new Luke Cage solo, but I didn't know when.

I only discovered that it was published because I was fucking around on Comixology and saw it there.

Digitally, it sold like shit. Maybe it really is dead on arrival.

>>92702899
Exactly. Iceman has always had a smaller fanbase that just really pushed him hard but now it's like they're changing his personality so it distances the old fans and some people are homophobic and it won't bring in any new fans either, so what exactly was the point of all this?

>>92703056
His new costume is gay.

>>92701963
Frank Miller, is that you?

>>92703086
It makes people who don't buy comics happy.

Marvel thought by appeasing this audience, they'd get new readers. All they've done is alienate their existing audience. They get online praise, but that doesn't translate to money.

>>92703164
And they don't care because they're owned by Disney, who only bought them for the movies.

>>92703164
You've really gotta wonder just how many times that they have to learn this lesson before it sticks

>>92703164
I mean, I can make an argument for some of their feminism and diversity titles but this gay shit has been flopping left and right? Who's really gonna buy these? I mean feminism and diversity has its audience (how constant and dependable they are is up for debate) but what straight person is buying a gay comic?

>>92703056
There's also a Nick Fury jr. book that just came out. It sold 31K for it's first issue. It is also D.o.A.

>>92703317
Straight allies? But yeah, if it's aimed at non-straight readers, that's what, 4% of the audience? Seems like a terrible idea.

>>92701760

The Gay Rights Industry will destroy anyone who tries to back out of this. The pendulum of public opinion isn't likely to swing back enough for the world to stop listening to them until the Jihadis take over the West, by which point X-Men comics will be the least of our problems.

So which is coldest, Iceman fully powered or Cocytus?

>>92703403
Sadly I think you might be right, Marvel should have never fallen into the gay trap today's world is pushing.

They should've just quietly released a gay character here and there and that's it. But instead they went all out "look at us! We love gay people! We're the only source for gay representation in comics!" And now they're stuck and can't get out.

>>92701383

the book should be all about buttsex

mystique shapeshifts into a hot bear, just to fuck him for the lols, but then discovers Mr Sinister shapeshifted into some gay stud just to get Bobby's genetic material

Hilarity and buttfuckings ensue
Also, Bobby should be a gay virgin, and therefore needs to learn everything related to the ass (washing and dilation)

>>92703569
This is one shitty change I'm not blaming on editorial.

This was 100% Bendis making sure he left a lasting mark on the X-Men.
The O5 will fuck off eventually.
The cast will be unified someday.
His OC will fall to obscurity.

But Iceman will never be straight again.

>>92703683
Best we can hope for is them revealing that he's bi

>>92703683
D-Don't say that anon! Have hope, believe!

>>92703800
Not likely.

Even if they did, he'd still only ever get with men, like what usually happens with a sexy woman character turns "bi."

>>92703851
>hope
>for the X-Men
>in the current year
I think not, my friend.

>>92703860
Yup, because god forbid Marvel portray being bi accurately where your genuinely into both sexes (like FOX's Lucifer) but nope, even if he turns bi all marvel will ever let us see is him kissing men, the women will be off panel baka.

>>92702093
>black characters
this is fair
>cool comics
we all do
>interracial propaganda
kys

I don't care if there's interracial relationships, but fuck yourself for propaganda. I've seen how that stuff goes for interracial and I want none of it in my comics.

If it does happen though, I hope it's black girls getting BLEACHED just so I can laugh at your tears.

Is there a significant girl Bobby usually dates if he's straight? All I can think of is Kitty Pride and I'm getting tired of her

>>92703638
All homos are virgins.

>>92702496
i thought I saw a storytime.
didn't read it, so can't confirm.

>>92704031
Lol bendis.

>>92703317
>but what straight person is buying a gay comic?
Midnighter & Apollo fans.

>>92704063
Polaris is on the table since Havok hasn't been around her in ages and Firestar always seemed to have a thing for him though they never went anywhere with it once Aaron left before Bendis made him gay

>>92704116
To be fair though, those characters are classic wildstorm characters with a pre-existing fanbase and they were never written for any gay agenda pushing.

>>92704178

Polaris was the canon reason Bobby never had a lasting, successful relationship. She was his first real love, she left him for Havok, he never got over it.

When even Chuck Austen has a better grip on a character than Bendis.

>>92702093
>I just wanna see more black characters
Then protest to bring back more obscure black characters.

I'm tired of people pretending Marvel never had any diverse characters. They were always the slightly more diverse option, but no one cares enough & Spider-Man & the X-Men were always the top. Then there is the fact people bought comics less & less & now people think Marvel always had only white characters & 5 black characters because they are too lazy to do some research. Hell, Khamala isn't even the first Muslim & there are plenty of characters they can put out there for their stupid diversity crap but decide dumb shit like making Iceman gay in the dumbest way. Especially pestering him to not even consider bisexuality like It's fucking Tumblr. Marvel are just dumb as fuck & the only person that would do it the way I said is Ewing & that's because he thrives on obscure continuity & actually seems to have some passion & try.

>>92705261
>Khamala isn't even the first Muslim

She's not even the first muslim superhero fangirl who got her powers due to an event.

>>92705424
Who was before her?

>>92705819
Faiza Hussain.

>>92702496
I looked at in the store and it looked boring as fuck. I didn't see any punches.

>>92705261
Different black anon. I do raise my voice to talk about obscure black characters. I tweet at marvel, I voice my opinion here. I wrote Woods when Frenzy was booted for Monet. No one gives a shit.

>>92703683
That's exactly what I always thought. Bendis wants to make sure that his pallid bald mug is on the comics history retrospectives of the future, regardless of actual storytelling ability or artfulness. What a douche, I hope he dies painfully.

>>92706296
Or maybe they hate x-men fans more than they like black people.

>>92703800
Technically he already is, he's had a bunch of girlfriends. And he didn't need to be brainwashed into those.

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>>92704545
Chuck Austen>Brain Bendis.

>>92706390
I would find it far more reasonable to be discriminated against based on my love of X-Men than the color of my skin. I probably deserve it, to be honest. Knowing X-Fans.

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>>92706296
That's classic Marvel for you. Fuck, just kill me now.
At least Night Thrashed is back & Outlaw is coming back for U.S. Avengers.

Keep getting the word out there though Anon. Someone will take notice & eventually do something. Worked for me when I wanted to see something for that Blue Ear character Though it's a one page four part series & the third part hasn't come out since last year. Fuck me

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>>92703800
Not after this Tumblr move.

>>92706542
I know he was created by McDuffie, but he could be so excellent if they just let the skateboard go...

>>92706616
Everything you just said is stupid and wrong.

>>92706741
Which part, the part where he could be excellent or the part where he needs to stop being on a skateboard?

>>92706768
He wasn't created by McDuffie and the skateboard is great.
Painfully 90's characters embracing how painfully 90's they are is wonderful.

What you're probably thinking of is that satirical series pitch McDuffie did specifically criticizing Night Thrasher and characters like him.

>>92706616
Meh. I like the skateboard. It's 90s but that's what makes it lovable. Especially what they did in Ewings CoC

>>92706901
I desperately want Ewing on New Warriors.
Partly because his Night Thrasher was amazing, and partly because he's such a massive continuityfag that he's pick up the Yost plots we never saw fulfilled thanks to his run's terrible pacing.

>>92703317
Yaoi fangirls.

>>92706605
He's like 15 at that time. It's an easy fix to say that he's still figuring himself out. Hell it's stupid as hell that Jean made that call after reading the mind of a teenager in the first place considering he's not gonna know the complexities of how sexuality is, especially after looking at his adult self

>>92706861
I was, I was thinking of the satirical pitch.

>>92701383
>arbitrarily make one of the straightest x-men gay
>not even beast where it'd make sense

I dunno, maybe Marvel just makes terrible decisions lately to appease sjw's and should stop and use their fucking heads?